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Title:Ju Tou San Chi Tian Qi Qing
TitleUnicode:舉頭三尺天氣晴
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Creator:CrystilonZ
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CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-26T14:31:47+00:00

\:D/

btw. new mp3, a little bit of timing fix (08/26)

pls redownload

and, if possible, don't forget to backup in case I screwed up XD
i haven't uploaded the Light Insane diff yet, because there's definitely something wrong with it owo

Raiden

osu! Alumni

2,419 posts

Joined January 2013

Raiden 2016-08-27T18:30:11+00:00

[Usagi's Muzukashii]

OD5 HP6,5-7 it's not really a good idea to keep the same ODHP than Oni.
Lower down volume at first part, having low volume voice with 100% hitsound is pretty offputting.
00:12:040 (1) - Substitute for a slider, it's a perfectly hearable 1/4 stream so a slider would be much more fitting
end it on 00:13:352 - and add a big don at 00:13:540 - to start the new stanza properly.
00:19:540 (1) - add a finish to indicate the start of a new measure.
00:36:790 (1,1) - Change both to kats for higher pitched vocals? Four dons seems slightly monotonous.
00:55:540 (1) - I don't think this hit is strong enough to warrant a finish, you should remove it.
01:01:540 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - kdd is not usually welcome in a Muzukashii difficulty, and it is too sudden considering the low amount of 1/4 patterns there are on this difficulty. I suggest doing a slider from 01:01:540 - to 01:02:477 - because it's fully 1/4

[Fur-ious]

Do you really need your own name in the difficutly name if it's your own mapset?
01:07:343 (5) - Wouldn't it make more sense to have the sliderend clickable as it is the start of a new measure? Two circles instead of that slider would do the trick tbh
01:08:843 (10) - Even if it's trying to accurately follow the vocal till the end I'm guessing snapping it to the blue tick makes it more playable, rather than 1/8 distance between this and the next clickable object. On normal speed it also seems more correct despite being almost unnoticeable.
01:20:843 (9) - Similar as above.
01:22:343 (5) - Same as the 2nd suggestion
01:23:843 (6) - Same as the 3rd suggestion

[Boatocket's Hard]

00:03:040 (1) - Is this note intentionally slightly higher than first note?
01:01:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Is this reaaaally okay for a Hard difficulty? I don't know, most I've seen are triplets for a BPM like this but I'm no expert on Standard sooo
01:11:656 (3) - Wouldn't a clap make more sense in consistency terms? For the potent snare, I mean.
01:22:343 (5) - I'm guessing you extended this for the held vocal but I wouldn't ignore such a strong beat at 01:22:531 -
01:23:843 (1) - Same ^

[Crystezek's Advanced]

00:16:540 (1,2) - I think these sliders can be slightly more smoothly curved
00:19:071 (6,7) - Considering the 1/4 pattern starts on the red tick, wouldn't it make more sense to make the first object clickable as a repeat slider and make two instead of the current pattern? This confused me as a sort of newbie standard player.
01:23:843 (5) - This overlap doesn't look so good but I have legit no idea how to fix it, maybe find some more opinions?

[Shiroitty's Easy]

01:04:906 - Couldn't you make this slidertick hitsounded with a clap?
01:07:906 - ^
01:10:906 - ^
And pretty much any tick that has this. Make it with less volume than the usual hitsound so at least you maintain the snare rhythm

I didn't skip Nwolf's Oni, I just didn't find too much to improve from my point.

Finish the Light Insane diff and poke me back

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-27T19:02:37+00:00

Raiden wrote:
[Fur-ious]
Do you really need your own name in the difficutly name if it's ~~your own~~ our mapset? yep, it's not necessary, but I don't think it's wrong either XD.
01:07:343 (5) - Wouldn't it make more sense to have the sliderend clickable as it is the start of a new measure? Two circles instead of that slider would do the trick tbh It follows the vocals properly tho. I tried changing it into 2 circles and found that it didn't fit too well. I like it more being a slider. I tried the thing you suggest too, and it's kinda weird because the dragging vocal almost stops at that point. but i do want to make the piano sound there clickable too. I will get more suggestions
01:08:843 (10) - Even if it's trying to accurately follow the vocal till the end I'm guessing snapping it to the blue tick makes it more playable, rather than 1/8 distance between this and the next clickable object. On normal speed it also seems more correct despite being almost unnoticeable. I was also thinking that 1/8s stick out like a sore thumb too lol
01:20:843 (9) - Similar as above. ^
01:22:343 (5) - Same as the 2nd suggestion ^
01:23:843 (6) - Same as the 3rd suggestion done
[Crystezek's Advanced]
01:23:843 (5) - This overlap doesn't look so good but I have legit no idea how to fix it, maybe find some more opinions? I don't have any idea either lolol. Hopefully it doesn't look too bad orz
Finish the Light Insane diff and poke me back

Thanks for the mod <3~

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-08-27T19:21:00+00:00

Raiden wrote:
[Crystezek's Advanced]
00:16:540 (1,2) - I think these sliders can be slightly more smoothly curved I did them the way they are because if I do a more noticeable curve the transition from one slider to the other may feel just a bit forced imo
00:19:071 (6,7) - Considering the 1/4 pattern starts on the red tick, wouldn't it make more sense to make the first object clickable as a repeat slider and make two instead of the current pattern? This confused me as a sort of newbie standard player. I know it starts on the red tick but, I don't ant to use too much clickable stuff since this is nor a hard.. but also I don't have to keep it too simple since it's not a normal either ;w; and from my point of view, it is pretty easy to read for this level, which is not for newbies but also not for cool players ;w;

Thanks for the mod! Sry no changes ;w;

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-27T20:02:32+00:00

moved to pending \o/

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-08-27T20:04:20+00:00

Paroto - Shun Shun Shun

Plaudible

1,030 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2016-08-27T22:52:11+00:00

M4M from your queue!
Went from a nicely drawn bg to suddenly tiger abs, ayylmao http://puu.sh/qQHYO/a8d88ddf29.jpg
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/480736

Shiroitty's Easy
00:19:165 (4,1,2) - These three singles are a huge difficulty spike in the song and is the hardest part of the difficulty, this needs to be toned down.
00:30:040 (3) - Move end point to x324 y200, improves blanket
00:42:790 (4) - ctrl+j? Would flow nicer
01:21:781 (2) - Hate to be blanket mod guy, but with an easy there's not much else to mod :>

ezek's Normal
01:00:040 (2,1) - Could this overlap be changed a bit? Looks awkward

CrystilonZ's Advanced
No other real issues I found, but the biggest one I had was spacing inconsistency. Sometimes you stack triples, sometimes you stack 1/2s, and stack 1/2s like triples. It's a bit confusing

I'd personally make them more consistent:
01:28:156 (4,5) - vs. 00:21:977 (6,7) - vs. 00:19:071 (6,7) -
00:39:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs 01:02:102 (2,3,4) - vs. 00:19:071 (6,7)

Also, 00:19:071 (6,7) - feels a bit high in difficulty, especially with it not being during Kiai or a major part of the song, I feel this could be toned down for an Advanced.

Boatocket's Hard (nice name xd, pronounced it like Botox with a ck)
00:34:540 (1,2,3) - Spacing inconsistency, why not evenly space like you did at 00:35:290 (3,4,5)?
01:02:009 (6) - Can you remove clap here? It sounds like my skull breaking when I fall down the stairs as it is.
01:02:383 (8,2) - Stack 4 me bb? <3
01:17:093 (2,3,4) - The emphasis here is a bit odd, the clap is at 01:17:656 but you emphasize 01:17:281 instead. Then, the jump onto 01:17:843 (4) feels uncomfortable as a result

I'd switch this around so you emphasize the right notes, may have to switch around sliders if you choose to do this.

Furiends' Light Insane
01:02:008 (6) - Same issue with before, I don't see a reason to put a clap here, at 25% I don't hear anything as bass-heavy (if that makes sense) as the other notes with a clap.
01:18:781 (3,4,5,6) - ctrl+shift+d to make a better square here? :/ idk, the semi-squareish shape doesn't really look too good.

Crytsilz's Fur-ious
01:01:915 (4) - Bleh, gonna say the same thing here since I did with everyone else, I just don't think there needs to be a clap here on slider end. It feels a bit spammy, and there's no sound to warrant it there as far as I know

Love this difficulty though, fun to play!

;_; pls no more tiger abs

Hobbes2

osu! Alumni

2,253 posts

Joined March 2016

Hobbes2 2016-08-27T22:54:23+00:00

My favorite animal is the peacock, where are my fellow featheries out there

I'm home for the weekend, and my dad walked in on me modding this. Asked me what I was looking at. I said animals. He walked out.

Shiroitty's Easy

00:04:540 (2) - Couldn't you try to make this symmetrical? Would go a long way in terms of neatness.

00:24:040 (3,4) - would flow better if you switched the shapes (so that 3 curved up, and 4 curved down)

00:47:290 (2) - rotate twice, ctrl+g so that the shape fits with 00:48:040 (3,4) -

01:10:531 (3) - set this up so the bend falls on the slidertick (01:10:906)

ezek's Normal

hey n_n

00:43:540 (1,2) - player has to move their mouse noticeably to the right to catch 2, would be nicer if the flow was more natural here

00:54:415 - why ignore this

it's part of the sounds that you map for 00:54:040 (5,6) - so skipping this doesn't make much sense to me.

Great diff!

Crystezek's Advanced

00:01:540 (1,2) - the first impression the player gets is this botched blanket, rip

00:32:102 (2) - I dislike this being an extended slider, 00:32:102 - would fit as a hit circle and 00:32:290 - could be a 1/1 slider

00:32:102 (2,3) - Regardless, fix this blanket

01:02:290 (4,1) - are these supposed to not be perfectly stacked?

01:19:531 (1,2,3) - equilateral triangle out of 1's tail, 2 and 3?

01:21:781 (3,1) - This pattern would look muchhh better if 1 blanketed 3 properly.

01:23:281 (3,4,5,1) - I dislike this, the area looks very dense in terms of note placement due to the overlap

Boatocket's Hard

o shit the background has evolved

00:08:665 (4,5) - ez blanket fix

00:17:102 (2,4) - I hate to blanket mod this much but this pattern is visually impacted by the messed up blanket, fix it and it would look way better

00:39:790 (7,2) - stack?

00:49:352 (9,10,1) - This triplet looks kinda weird to me, I suggest making the triplet into more of a line as opposed to attemping to curve it

01:02:383 (8,2) - perhaps stack these?

01:03:593 (2) - this shape is very out of place compared to the rest of this map, which is usually very curvy, you dont use a lot of straight line so a suddenly a shape that's 3 straight lines doens't fit

01:05:656 (4) - this is a cool pattern, but it's not perfect. I think you need to move 4 to x177 y152 (somewhere very near there, at least)

01:24:781 (3,4,1) - equilateral triangle would nice here, alternatively you could make a jump to 1.

01:27:124 (1) - This spinner ends wayyy before the ones earlier in this mapset o_o

Furiend's Light Insane

00:03:790 (2,1) - I'd make 2 symmetric over the y axis and have it blanket 1; this would look neat b/c symmetry

00:49:540 (1) - New measure, strong sound, yet no jump? One would fit.

00:50:102 (3,1) - having 1 not bend into 3 like that would look nicer.

01:15:968 (4,3) - Stack these.

Crystilz' 2 fast 2 furryious

00:16:727 (2,3,4,6) - Due to the stack, these almost overlap, even if you didn't intend for this. I'd move 6 slightly further away from the triplet.

00:37:165 (5,6,7,8,1) - the stream blankets 00:36:790 (3), so maybe the slider could as well?

01:02:852 (2,1) - these 1/8 gaps throughout the kiai are tilting me but they're probably fine. I just didn't expect em in my first playthrough so I was 100ing everywhere

This diff is pretty cool. Love the stream structure you have.

Good luck, cool mapset.

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-08-28T00:26:27+00:00

Legend

✔ fixed!
a not fixed + reason

[Replies]

Raiden

Raiden wrote:
[Boatocket's Hard]
00:03:040 (1) - Is this note intentionally slightly higher than first note? Yeah. /w\ Since it doesn't REALLY affect gameplay, I'll leave as is. However, don't hesitate to suggest a change if you liked it more as a stack. >u<
01:11:656 (3) - Wouldn't a clap make more sense in consistency terms? For the potent snare, I mean. ✔

Plaudible

Plaudible wrote:
Boatocket's Hard (nice name xd, pronounced it like Botox with a ck) XDDDDDDDDD AY GEEEZ that wasn't the intention lel xD

Furiends' Light Insane
01:02:008 (6) - Same issue with before, I don't see a reason to put a clap here, at 25% I don't hear anything as bass-heavy (if that makes sense) as the other notes with a clap. ✔

Hobbes2

Boatocket's Hard

o shit the background has evolved >:D FINAL BOSS INCOMINGGGGG! XD

00:17:102 (2,4) - I hate to blanket mod this much but this pattern is visually impacted by the messed up blanket, fix it and it would look way better ✔

00:39:790 (7,2) - stack? ✔

01:03:593 (2) - this shape is very out of place compared to the rest of this map, which is usually very curvy, you dont use a lot of straight line so a suddenly a shape that's 3 straight lines doens't fit. I understand what you mean but I wanted to make some variation regarding the curve slider-shapes we used among the whole map. At least it doesn't flow that bad ;w;

01:05:656 (4) - this is a cool pattern, but it's not perfect. I think you need to move 4 to x177 y152 (somewhere very near there, at least) ✔

01:27:124 (1) - This spinner ends wayyy before the ones earlier in this mapset o_o YAS! That's intentional because it was placed to end where actually the music (instruments) stops, not the vocals. /u\

Furiend's Light Insane

00:03:790 (2,1) - I'd make 2 symmetric over the y axis and have it blanket 1; this would look neat b/c symmetry ✔

00:50:102 (3,1) - having 1 not bend into 3 like that would look nicer. ✔

Thank you very much for the mod guys! >w< Fixed things accordingly to your mods and now I think the diffs look neater. :3

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Title:Ju Tou San Chi Tian Qi Qing
TitleUnicode:舉頭三尺天氣晴
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Version:Furiends' Light Insane
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Tags:Nekojishi jiā yǒu dà māo jia you da mao mau Nviek5 クエン酸P 晴空和音 Triodust 空氣載體 furry ezek HappyRocket88 BoatKrab KittyAdventure Shiroi Hiroshi Shiroitty Boatocket gokugohan12468 collab collaboration 鸚鵡 ajeemaniz exusagi Nwolf Furiends Crystezek
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ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-08-28T02:24:07+00:00

Plaudible wrote:
ezek's Normal
01:00:040 (2,1) - Could this overlap be changed a bit? Looks awkward They're too separated in the timeline and is not noticeable enough to look bad~

CrystilonZ's Advanced
I'm here too
Also, 00:19:071 (6,7) - feels a bit high in difficulty, especially with it not being during Kiai or a major part of the song, I feel this could be toned down for an Advanced. Feels weird to ignore those sounds in this diff, but I assume the thing that makes it hard could be the fact that there's a circle stacked over the repeat slider, so I just unstacked them and I hope is easier to read now~

Hobbes2 wrote:
ezek's Normal

hey n_n

00:43:540 (1,2) - player has to move their mouse noticeably to the right to catch 2, would be nicer if the flow was more natural here Slider (1) aims to slider (2), it works fine~

00:54:415 - why ignore this it's part of the sounds that you map for 00:54:040 (5,6) - so skipping this doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe I had dirt on my ears that day, added a circle~

Great diff!

Crystezek's Advanced

01:02:290 (4,1) - are these supposed to not be perfectly stacked? Stacked~

Thanks for the mods! ;w;

Normal Update

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Adiopulse

147 posts

Joined May 2014

Adiopulse 2016-08-28T04:18:44+00:00

Adiopulse's First Taiko Mod

nwolf oni

Add:
Seems like there should be a note here 00:15:227
00:37:446 ^
00:49:352 and 00:49:446 ^
01:14:656 to 01:14:937 ^
add a spiner at the end aswell

Change:
00:19:258 (86,87) these two should be blue to follow the pitch in the drums
01:01:540 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) match these with the drums, would just flow and play better

Plaudible

1,030 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2016-08-28T04:47:58+00:00

ezek wrote:
I'm here too

o shit oops i misread it D: didnt forget u bb dw

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-28T05:16:44+00:00

ezek wrote:
I'm here too //hugs ezek. please don't throw me into the river QAQ

Plaudible wrote:
M4M from your queue!
Went from a nicely drawn bg to suddenly tiger abs, ayylmao http://puu.sh/qQHYO/a8d88ddf29.jpg tiger abs \o/ <3
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/480736

CrystilonZ's Advanced
No other real issues I found, but the biggest one I had was spacing inconsistency. Sometimes you stack triples, sometimes you stack 1/2s, and stack 1/2s like triples. It's a bit confusing I'd personally make them more consistent: I don't see this as a problem actually. Some go well with the music, and some are because it's from different mapper lolololol
01:28:156 (4,5) - vs. 00:21:977 (6,7) - vs. 00:19:071 (6,7) -
00:39:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs 01:02:102 (2,3,4) - vs. 00:19:071 (6,7)

Furiends' Light Insane
01:02:008 (6) - Same issue with before, I don't see a reason to put a clap here, at 25% I don't hear anything as bass-heavy (if that makes sense) as the other notes with a clap. 01:01:821 (4,6) - are kinda the same actually. There are drums but they kinda blend in so it's a bit hard to hear. Nevertheless, it's weird to ignore those
01:18:781 (3,4,5,6) - ctrl+shift+d to make a better square here? :/ idk, the semi-squareish shape doesn't really look too good. isn't it already a square? a few pixels off, but i don't think that is noticeable ps. i'm lazy

Crytsilz's Fur-ious
01:01:915 (4) - Bleh, gonna say the same thing here since I did with everyone else, I just don't think there needs to be a clap here on slider end. It feels a bit spammy, and there's no sound to warrant it there as far as I know ^^^

Love this difficulty though, fun to play! thanks! >//<

;_; pls no more tiger abs

Hobbes2 wrote:
My favorite animal is the peacock, where are my fellow featheries out there

I'm home for the weekend, and my dad walked in on me modding this. Asked me what I was looking at. I said animals. He walked out. http://puu.sh/qR2YQ/55b8f41ecd.jpg

Crystezek's Advanced

00:01:540 (1,2) - the first impression the player gets is this botched blanket, rip QAQ

00:32:102 (2) - I dislike this being an extended slider, 00:32:102 - would fit as a hit circle and 00:32:290 - could be a 1/1 slider this is a bumper slider? buffer slider? idk what it's called lol.

00:32:102 (2,3) - Regardless, fix this blanket crystilonz feat.fcked up blankets

01:19:531 (1,2,3) - equilateral triangle out of 1's tail, 2 and 3? and also featuring fcked up patterns

01:21:781 (3,1) - This pattern would look muchhh better if 1 blanketed 3 properly. done!

01:23:281 (3,4,5,1) - I dislike this, the area looks very dense in terms of note placement due to the overlap QAQ I can't find a way to fix this properly orz. any suggestions?

Furiend's Light Insane

01:15:968 (4,3) - Stack these. with fcked up stacks as special guest

Crystilz' 2 fast 2 furryious oh god these furry puns XD

00:16:727 (2,3,4,6) - Due to the stack, these almost overlap, even if you didn't intend for this. I'd move 6 slightly further away from the triplet. nice catch!~

00:37:165 (5,6,7,8,1) - the stream blankets 00:36:790 (3), so maybe the slider could as well? I love a slight change of flow here tho orz. It's new section and all

01:02:852 (2,1) - these 1/8 gaps throughout the kiai are tilting me but they're probably fine. I just didn't expect em in my first playthrough so I was 100ing everywhere if it's fine~

This diff is pretty cool. Love the stream structure you have. >//<

Good luck, cool mapset.

Thanks!~

Nwolf

2,627 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-08-28T09:50:40+00:00

but tiger abs are nicely drawn : O

Adiopulse wrote:
Adiopulse's First Taiko Mod
nwolf oni
Add:
Seems like there should be a note here 00:15:227 might be, feels too inaudible for me though
00:37:446 ^ want to avoid 1/4 finishers
00:49:352 and 00:49:446 ^ added first note
01:14:656 to 01:14:937 ^ 01:14:843 - added here
add a spiner at the end aswell nevar

Change:
00:19:258 (86,87) these two should be blue to follow the pitch in the drums 87 yes, 86 no
01:01:540 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) match these with the drums, would just flow and play better clarify

ty

Oni

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CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-28T12:46:42+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
but tiger abs are nicely drawn : O

REALLY well drawn XD

absbabdsbsabasba

Lully

1,270 posts

Joined September 2013

Lully 2016-08-28T15:29:48+00:00

ayo lotta requests

shireasy

00:15:040 (2) - could be moved to 264 80 - looks better
00:51:790 (2) - looks better if it would be inbetween 00:49:540 (1,1) - so move it to 88 248

boahard

01:07:906 (2) - fix the symmetry please~

muzukashii

00:01:540 (1,1,1,1,1) - make those k - fits much better lul
00:24:133 - add d
00:24:415 - ^

sorry for the short mod xwx

Arzenvald

4,062 posts

Joined July 2013

Arzenvald 2016-08-28T16:29:29+00:00

update muzu

osu file format v14

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thanks for mod! i keep the 1st part, i apply the rest

[Crz]Derrick

28 posts

Joined July 2014

[Crz]Derrick 2016-08-29T01:20:16+00:00

4K HD GD From Derrick :3 http://puu.sh/qS2Vf/2730d7acfd.osu
Oh my god this is hard to map orz... Don't really have good idea about the vocal, maybe need lots of modifications. ;w;

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-29T01:49:49+00:00

Why mania and taiko mappers are so quick @_@

Kyouren

5,723 posts

Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-08-29T11:08:57+00:00

CookieKivi wrote:
shireasy
00:15:040 (2) - could be moved to 264 80 - looks better
00:51:790 (2) - looks better if it would be inbetween 00:49:540 (1,1) - so move it to 88 248. Look bad flow :c

Plaudible wrote:
Shiroitty's Easy

00:19:165 (4,1,2) - These three singles are a huge difficulty spike in the song and is the hardest part of the difficulty, this needs to be toned down. I think it's suitable with the sound so nope!
00:30:040 (3) - Move end point to x324 y200, improves blanket It's blanket lol
00:42:790 (4) - ctrl+j? Would flow nicer. I keep to used that bird flow
01:21:781 (2) - Hate to be blanket mod guy, but with an easy there's not much else to mod :>

Hobbes2 wrote:
Shiroitty's Easy

00:04:540 (2) - Couldn't you try to make this symmetrical? Would go a long way in terms of neatness. It's symmetrical

00:24:040 (3,4) - would flow better if you switched the shapes (so that 3 curved up, and 4 curved down). Bird flow :^

00:47:290 (2) - rotate twice, ctrl+g so that the shape fits with 00:48:040 (3,4) - It's a weird flow

01:10:531 (3) - set this up so the bend falls on the slidertick (01:10:906)

Furiend's Light Insane

00:49:540 (1) - New measure, strong sound, yet no jump? One would fit. Triangle style :3 since i don't want make light insane to more harder!

Thank you for mod :3 (No comment is mean fixed!)
@Raiden: I think i asked CrystilonZ to fine that =w=/

Upgrade!

We need to ranked it before CrystilonZ is inactive until next year ;__;

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CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-29T12:01:45+00:00

You're saying as if i would be gone forever lol

kanor

927 posts

Joined August 2013

kanor 2016-08-30T06:55:07+00:00

wow, Big project！lol
[Genal]
there are too many green lines in the beginning of each diff but I dont think its neccessary......
For example:
3883,-100,4,2,1,5,0,0
6133,-100,4,2,1,5,0,0
6883,-100,4,2,1,5,0,0
12977,-100,4,2,1,25,0,0
13071,-100,4,2,1,25,0,0
13258,-100,4,2,1,25,0,0
I dont its useful in the easy diff.... maybe you'd better delete those green lines to make it looks cleaner?

[Easy]
00:20:290 (3,4) - There is a DS warning in the AImod
01:22:531 (3,4) - ^

[Normal]
00:51:790 (2,3) - There is a DS warning in the AImod
00:52:540 (3,4) - ^
00:54:040 (5,6) - ^
00:54:415 (6,7) - ^
00:54:790 (7,8) - ^
00:10:165 (5,6) - maybe change them into a 1/2slider?
01:28:906 (1,2,3) - a return slider maybe better? this place dont need a great sence of clickable

[Advanced]
00:12:133 (1,1) - there is a little dangerous that theis is only 1/1 between spinner and cirle ....maybe 2/1 is better or change the spinner into a slider...
by the way i also think the spinner is a little uncomfortable because it looks too short for getting at least 1000point...

[Hard]
00:16:165 (3) - better the stack
00:25:165 (3,4) - IDK why 3and 4 are so closed but far away form others... how about make thme looks average?
00:39:602 (6,7) - there is a jump between 6 and 7,but at 00:42:602 (6,7) - there is no jump,how about make them same?
01:02:009 (6) - revoke the clap sounds better
01:05:093 (2,4) - if you want to stack it ,better it
[Insane]
00:22:446 (6,1) - better stack?
00:36:602 (2,3) - ^

Chinese Anime Song! lol!
GL>< shooted it.
OSU need more Chinese song or furry song like this <3

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-30T13:52:46+00:00

merged spinner in Advanced

Thanks~!

Kyouren

5,723 posts

Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-08-30T14:24:33+00:00

CrystilonZ, you much searching 1 mapper for osu!mania diff since the rules say if need 2 osu!mania diff for rankable!

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-30T14:39:05+00:00

ajeemaniz told me kuo kyoka is on it~

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-08-31T00:04:07+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Hard]
00:16:165 (3) - better the stack YES!
00:25:165 (3,4) - IDK why 3and 4 are so closed but far away form others... how about make thme looks average? TRIED! ;w;
00:39:602 (6,7) - there is a jump between 6 and 7,but at 00:42:602 (6,7) - there is no jump,how about make them same? NUUU! In this case, they're following the changes of the vocals. That's why I didn't do it thgere but here instead 00:46:540 (1,3) - :3
01:02:009 (6) - revoke the clap sounds better
01:05:093 (2,4) - if you want to stack it ,better it YES! >w<

Thank you very much for modding! >w<

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Arzenvald

4,062 posts

Joined July 2013

Arzenvald 2016-08-31T05:48:05+00:00

[4K]
Hard
00:00:602 (602|0,977|1,1165|2) - better not to use vocal in mania
00:06:415 (6415|1) - to 4,
00:06:790 (6790|3) - to 1
00:15:508 - add
00:18:696 (18696|2) - move to 00:18:508 -
00:20:571 - 00:21:508 - 00:23:008 - add
00:26:290 (26290|3) - remove
00:29:290 (29290|1) - ^
00:32:290 (32290|3) - ^
00:33:415 (33415|3,33790|2,34165|1,34540|0) - make 1/1 LN for these notes to reduce the double and triples
00:49:446 - add?
01:04:999 - ^
01:07:812 - 01:07:999 - 01:26:937 - add

[Crz]Derrick

28 posts

Joined July 2014

[Crz]Derrick 2016-08-31T18:35:03+00:00

Sorry for being late. I caught a cold today ;w;
I will reply to ajee's mods and update the 4K map as soon as possible.
Very possible tomorrow. owo

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-08-31T18:48:17+00:00

no need to hurry >w< just get some rest

get well soon!~

BounceBabe

1,626 posts

Joined October 2010

BounceBabe 2016-08-31T21:53:11+00:00

Request from my M4M Queue

What I checked in your mapset

Each point from the list below will have a check mark next to it (✓/ ✕/ ✫). This will tell you whether I checked that point or not.
✓= I checked this point and everything is okay.
✕= I didn't check this point because I think it doesn't need checking.
✫= I checked this point but something needs fixing (explained in the mod)
osu!wiki Modding page
osu!wiki Ranking Criteria page

📖 General 📖
✫ Mapset difficulty spread (Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane)
✫ Background design, skin and SB (if available) and combo colouring
✓ Metadata
> resolution of images, mp3, files,...
> bit rate of song
> hitsounds
> skin (missing elements and resolution checks) and SB (SB load) or video
✓/ ✕ / ✫ Unrankable issues

🕗 Timing 🕗
✕ KIAI time and breaks
✫ Slider Velocity and changes
✕ Timing changes
✫ Timing points
✕ BPM & Offset
✕ Preview point
✕ Unrankable issues

🎧 Sound 🎧
✓ Hitsounds (Do they match the song?)
✓ Hitsound patterns
✓ Hitsound volume (Timing points)
✫ Rhythm of hit objects (Do they match the song?)
✕ Unrankable issues

🖰 Object Gameplay 🖰
✫ Reasonable spacing patterns, spacing consistency, Jumps, Anti-Jumps, special pattern
✫ Flow and transition between elements
✫ Overmapping
✫ Unrankable issues (In addition to the link at the top)
> objects hitting the accuracy bar, HP bar or are out of playfield with the osu!standard skin
> overlaps and stacking
> unreadable objects

👀 Visual Gameplay 👀
✫ Combo patterns, New combos
✕ Blankets, symmetry
✕ Variety of different patterns and styles
✫ Unrankable issues

General

> It's probably not unrankable but highly confusing. Why does Easy and Hard have different BGs than the rest of the difficulties? If you want one specific BG for each GD, you should be consistent and add a different one on every single difficulty for it to match the design scheme.
> AiMod says "Uninherited timing points conflict with X" You better check that. It means that there are differences for timing points throughout the mapset. They should be somewhat consistent as well unless intented.
> The SV changes at this section of the song 00:49:540 - is hard to notice especially on the hardest difficulty as 00:49:165 (4,2) - look like they have the same SV, which they don't, because of the same slider lenght. Without a closer look, it is not readable while playing and the players may not be able to adjust themself to this change so quickly. You should address this and maybe even think about a SB warning that informs the players from this upcoming, extraordinary SV change.
> AiMod says that you need at least 2 Mania difficulties. You might want to check this and ask around if you have to. Not my expertise tho.

Shiroitty's Easy

Absolutely nothing. Well done ^^

ezek's Normal

Hitsounds:
00:10:352 (6) - Should also have a normal hitclap to match the music. Also feels a bit empty without.

Rhythm & Pattern:
00:38:102 (2) - The slider should be a circle and 1/1 slider to match the vocals more that you mapped to at this point. Like you did here 00:38:852 (4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5985558
00:59:852 - There really is a circle missing to go with the vocals and it should be added to complete the pattern's 00:58:540 (1,2,3) - rhythm properly.

Spacing:
00:49:540 (1,2,3) - I'm disappointed xD Inconsistent spacing for symmetry? Nope. Especially not on a Normal difficulty.

Combo:
01:01:540 (1,1,2,3) - Inconsistent combo pattern. There's no need to change the combo pattern for drums in the music. The amount of beats will remain the same.
01:01:540 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Yykes. You changed your combo pattern here completely from 8 to 4 bars. Choose one.
01:28:906 (1) - Remove Nc again to fix your combo pattern, unless you went for a 4 bar pattern after the two points i mentioned above.

Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:24:602 (2,1) - The NC slider has already appeared before you even play the reversed slider. 00:24:602 (2,1) - This makes it look like you have to play 2 to 1 in a stream. It confused me a bit. You should stack those for it not to look so messy and be more readable. It will look cleaner once you've stacked them.
00:31:540 (1,2) - You could blanket this gap between the two sliders a bit better for appearance.

Crystezek's Advanced

Spacing:
01:17:468 (4,1) - 01:20:843 (6,1) - That's the only spacing change / jump you have in this difficulty and there is not even a distinctive musical change that could justify this. Make the spacing consistent here. It will less likely confused players, since you've used only DS for the whole map and suddenly changed the spacing here.

Rhythm & Pattern:
01:30:031 - The spinner should start here. There is clearly some vocal left until this point and the proper ending would be at that time, to also start the spinner. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5985675 Something like that would fit better and conclude the difficulty properly. Don't forget to add hitsounds as well.

Boatocket's Hard

> Totally wrong use of NC. There also is quite a lot of NC spam actually. Please be consistent to prevent spam and use a NC every 4 or 8 beats. If you're unsure, ask one of your fellow mappers to help you out or check their difficulties.

Spacing:
00:10:165 (6,7) - This jump is completely off and shouldn't be here. Not only the position is an eyesore, but the singer also lowers his voice and the music doesn't get intense at this particular point. The beginning of the song is rather quiet. You've also used consistent, normal DS once the introduction of the song is over. The jumps just don't fit at all. Use normal spacing here. Same with 00:11:477 (4,5,1) - but you'll probably ignore it anyway.
00:17:852 (4,1) - 00:20:665 (4,1) - 00:31:165 (8,1) - 00:28:165 (9,1) - Consistency is the key. The spacing between those is not consistent. I can't say it often enough. The music is exactly the same at these points. Yes, you want to add more tension to the difficulty by adding jumps, I get that, but keep your jumps consistent. You also mapped to the drums of the song and they are pretty consistent too. You can justify your jump inconsistencies more easily in Insane or Extras. This is a Hard difficulty tho. Do this for all upcoming jumps that you can find throughout this difficulty and adjust the spacing so that they becomes equal and have one spacing setting for the same jumps, not many.(00:20:665 (4,1) - 00:22:165 (3,1) - 00:23:665 (3,1) - 00:43:165 (8,1) - 00:44:852 (4,5) - for example are almost the same and that's better, not only for appearance but also for playability and readability) In general, your spacing between jumps gets a lot more consistent starting from 00:39:040 -
00:25:352 (4,1) - 00:26:290 (3,4) - 00:34:540 (1,2,3) - 00:35:290 (3,4,5) - Oups, small spacing accident there. Easy to fix. Btw, the spacing change should start here 00:25:540 (1,2) - since 00:25:352 (4,1) - still belongs to the previous spacing.
01:02:102 (7,8,9) - Yeeer, no. This spacing should definitely not occur in a Hard difficulty. This is something to use for Insanes and Extras. Do never use such spacing for streams like that in Hard difficulties. You have to fix this. It's totally wrong.
01:15:031 (1) - If at all, the jump should be here, between 01:14:843 (4,1) - if you hadn't placed a triple there ofc. But given that fact makes this jump unreasonable 01:15:593 (2,3) - ( Same for 01:17:093 (2,3) - 01:26:843 (5,6,7) - ) as there is no musical tension nor jump like music that you could this jump justify with. Not even the vocals that you mapped to at this point match or support this jump. 01:16:156 (4,1) - That one is more reasonable as the singer pitches his voice.

Unrankable Issue:
01:12:781 (3) - Almost the whole slider is a hidden note and is not rankable. It's not readable due to the previous slider covering most of it. Additionally, 01:11:656 (3) - has not fully enough faded out at the beginning of the slider, thus making it impossible to read. Even tho the pattern 01:12:031 (1,2,3,4) - itself is rankable by itself, as a whole with previous combo pattern, it's not and you have to fix this. Furthermore, the pattern 01:11:656 (3,1,2,3,4) - is less likely to be allowed in Hard difficulties, again, due to it being considered a more jumpy and challenging type of pattern that is used for harder difficulties for experienced players. I suggest you find a totally different pattern for this section and get rid of the blind note.

Rhythm & Pattern
What happened to the end of the map? You didn't finish mapping the song. Since you mapped the beginning of the song, which also is vocal only and no drum music, it's more than reasonable to also map the last bit of the song. Conclude the difficulty with a spinner, like the other difficulties. Because technically, the sentence sung, that you mapped to, ends here 01:30:031 - not 01:28:906 - . The music may, but not the vocals, and that's what you mapped to.

Furiends' Light Insane

> This is NOT a light Insane. This is a normal Insane and should be named like one. It's simply another, additional Insane. Without fixing, the spacing changes, jump and streams in this difficulty are definitely not "light".

Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:07:540 (1,2,3,4) - There are two points that are incorrect with this pattern. First, it's not fully symmetrical. 00:07:540 (1,2) - is symmetrical, whereas 00:08:290 (3,4) - is something completely new. Secondly, 00:07:915 (2,3) - the jump here is not justified. There is no musical tension or excitement, if you want, here, nor does it match with the previous sliders. Those are 1/2 sliders and since you mapped the whole part with 1/2 sliders, you should create a symmetrical pattern that fits better, looks more appealing and also plays better. 00:09:040 (1,2,3,4) - This works better because they are spaced out and individual patterns but yet combined. If you want, you could make these curved 00:08:290 (3,4) - and lower them a bit to match the other curved sliders, or create a symmetrical pattern, like i said before. Your choice on how you fix this but it looks awful right now.

Rhythm & Pattern:
01:27:031 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Since you mapped this section of the song to the vocals, you should map until 01:30:031 - and start the spinner at 01:30:031 - . Because technically, the sentence sung, that you mapped to, ends here 01:30:031 - not 01:28:906 - . The music may, but not the vocals, and that's what you mapped to.

Combo:
00:12:040 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 00:48:040 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - Complete unncessesary combo spam. Do not overuse NCs. It hurts the eyes and is also incorrect. "Combos are usually placed to either match the vocal/musical phrases or to indicate the downbeat of each measure. In special cases, combos are used in indicating any discrepancies in spacing or slider velocity." Source: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Modding

Spacing:
00:11:102 (4,5,6) - Without musical change, you can't have normal spacing and then change your spacing / create a (not even consistenly spaced) jump with those 00:11:665 (7,8,1) - . Either increase the spacing of this whole pattern 00:10:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - or adjust 00:11:665 (7,8,1) - to this spacing 00:11:290 (5,6) - .

Ugh, I'll stop here. Without trying to be mean, the whole difficulty lacks spacing consistency. The jumps are randomly placed, mostly not matching the music, nor does the spacing have consistency. Placing elements onto previous elements to create "jumps" is not only incorrect use of creating jump patterns, it also breaks the spacing completely. I'd have to state almost every single element in this 1 minute song for your difficulty. Without adjustment this will be really hard to mod. I don't enjoy this difficulty. It's really hard to read and play and makes no sense to me. Patterns like this 00:20:665 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - are reasonable with consistent spacing that are playable, but the rest is really difficult. Most of the map is ok to look at but there are parts that are completely random. Not to mention that it's partially overmapped like here 00:36:790 (3,4) - .

Crystilz's Fur-ious

> You don't have to state your own name in your own mapset. Simply write "Fur-ious". Otherwise people may think this is a guest difficulty.
> The difficulty is partially overmapped. You should get rid of the redundant elements that don't match with the music to keep the rhythm correct. Watch out for the triples and doubles, sometimes even single elements like 00:08:852 (5) - , which are not in the music.
> You've misued some NCs that disturb your combo pattern. They are listed below.
> I recommend using at least 1 spinner in your difficulty as it will provide more variety in the leaderboard across the players to achieve higher ranks. Without a spinner, the players wont be able to compete against each other, which makes achieving higher ranks impossible, even with mods active. The last bit of the song 01:30:031 - can be used perfectly to add a spinner that concludes the difficulty. It also makes the mapset generally consistent because all the other difficulties end with a spinner as well.

Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:15:977 (9,10) - You should move them together like you did with 00:15:602 (7,9) -
00:20:290 (5) - 01:25:343 (8) - This note is hidden and is extremely hard to read, especially with this high AR. I recommend that you move it elsewhere or stack it with previous elements to avoid causing confusion.

Spacing:
00:53:290 (2,3,1) - This part doesn't call for a spacing change. Even more since the music at this point is soft and quiet. You should adjust your spacing here and keep it consistent.
01:20:281 (5,6) - I don't see why you would change the spacing here when the whole pattern 01:20:281 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - is one stream. Same with 01:24:031 (1,2) -

Combo:
00:58:540 (3) - NC should be here instead of 00:58:352 (1) - if youre going for a 4 beat combo pattern.

The spacing is really consistent on this one apart from a few places, listed above, unlike on the "Light Insane". Good job!

Overall

The BG changes are confusing and the spacing needs more consistency. Mostly the mapset has good flow, appearance and also rhythmically correct patterns. The hitsounding is very good. It's a decent mapset. GJ everyone.

Add the question and one of the following options to your feedback on my mod please:

[u]Was the mod helpful?[/u]
1. Yes, it helped me a lot! The advice was really useful. I will definitely come back for more.
2. The mod was helpful! Most suggestions were useful to me.
3. It was good but there is room for improvement. I could apply only a few suggestions.
4. The suggestions and advice weren't explained properly. I appreciated the effort but it didn't help me to improve my map, sadly.
5. Awful! I won't visit this queue again. It didn't help me at all.

Last edited by BounceBabe 2016-08-31T23:40:12+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-08-31T22:26:25+00:00

BounceBabe attacks me twice the same week ;w;
/me dies

Kyouren

5,723 posts

Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-08-31T23:08:40+00:00

Actually, different BGs is fine, many maps is has different BGs in their map.

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-01T00:26:02+00:00

Oh god that is really really long O_o

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-09-01T02:02:34+00:00

Hellow! >w<

Fixed all from my parts, regarding the light insane and hard. Except the parts of the consistent jumps and the unrankable issue. /u\

Jumps mustn't be consistent to be accepted on any difficulty. o: The fact they're consistent might make them look good to the eye of the beholder but it has a completely different meaning at game-play (at least on my parts). I guess that's up to the mapper and in this case if they're inconsistent by 0.2 ~ 0.3 doesn't make them directly unplayable nor untidy at playing them. Hence, having some of them to be different don't make them bad imo. ;w;

I'm not sure if what you call is exactly "unrankable" at today's standards since I didn't find anything against using sliders which do stack over each other or overlap themselves in a way players can't read them. I've asked a considerable amount of test-plays and they didn't have such as a big problem at reading them since the motion that this pattern 01:11:656 (3,1,2,3,4) - offers is intuitive.

Very useful mod! and cute detailed as a whole. You have potential as a good modder! >w<

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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Ju Tou San Chi Tian Qi Qing
TitleUnicode:舉頭三尺天氣晴
Artist:Paroto
ArtistUnicode:パロト
Creator:CrystilonZ
Version:Boatocket's Hard
Source:家有大貓
Tags:Nekojishi jiā yǒu dà māo jia you da mao mau Nviek5 クエン酸P 晴空和音 Triodust 空氣載體 furry ezek HappyRocket88 BoatKrab KittyAdventure Shiroi Hiroshi Shiroitty Boatocket gokugohan12468 collab collaboration 鸚鵡 ajeemaniz exusagi Nwolf Furiends Crystezek [Crz]Derrick
BeatmapID:1055521
BeatmapSetID:495866

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.7
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Title:Ju Tou San Chi Tian Qi Qing
TitleUnicode:舉頭三尺天氣晴
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Creator:CrystilonZ
Version:Furiends' Light Insane
Source:家有大貓
Tags:Nekojishi jiā yǒu dà māo jia you da mao mau Nviek5 クエン酸P 晴空和音 Triodust 空氣載體 furry ezek HappyRocket88 BoatKrab KittyAdventure Shiroi Hiroshi Shiroitty Boatocket gokugohan12468 collab collaboration 鸚鵡 ajeemaniz exusagi Nwolf Furiends Crystezek [Crz]Derrick
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192,300,43540,6,0,L|88:148,1,156,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
28,128,44102,1,0,0:0:0:0:
28,128,44290,2,0,P|128:152|184:116,1,156,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,72,44852,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,72,45040,6,0,P|311:45|382:73,1,156,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,88,45790,2,0,L|504:72,1,78,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,184,46165,2,0,L|296:168,1,78,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,233,46540,6,0,P|267:234|319:138,1,156,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
226,77,47102,1,0,0:0:0:0:
226,77,47290,2,0,L|238:181,1,78,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,104,47665,2,0,L|136:26,1,78,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
44,124,48040,6,0,P|80:180|176:176,1,156,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,144,48602,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,144,48790,2,0,B|284:144|284:144|324:156,1,78,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,60,49165,5,8,0:0:0:0:
400,140,49352,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,224,49540,5,4,0:0:0:0:
192,304,49915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,224,50102,2,0,P|220:184|176:136,1,93.5999971435548,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,128,50665,2,0,P|124:100|140:84,1,46.7999985717774,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,68,50946,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,64,51040,6,8,B|233:70|249:92|249:92|264:81|292:80,1,93.5999971435548,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,108,51602,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,80,51790,2,0,P|452:60|452:40,1,46.7999985717774,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,156,52165,2,0,P|436:184|452:208,1,46.7999985717774,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
492,252,52540,6,0,P|448:272|400:260,2,93.5999971435548,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,200,53665,1,2,0:0:0:0:
332,272,53852,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,216,54040,6,0,L|248:160,1,46.7999985717774,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,256,54415,2,0,L|244:304,1,46.7999985717774,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,328,54696,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,360,54790,2,0,P|240:344|188:372,1,93.5999971435548,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,316,55352,1,2,0:0:0:0:
68,256,55540,6,0,P|44:296|52:352,1,93.5999971435548,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,316,56102,2,0,P|148:276|140:220,1,93.5999971435548,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,196,56665,1,2,0:0:0:0:
68,256,56852,1,2,0:0:0:0:
144,230,57040,6,0,B|148:190|168:182|168:182|196:154|204:102|156:74|104:78|76:118|80:170|124:190|152:186|152:186|180:170|224:190,1,374.399988574219,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,264,58915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,216,59102,2,0,P|416:200|476:224,1,93.5999971435548,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,272,59665,2,0,L|400:316,2,46.7999985717774,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,272,60415,6,0,B|452:226|423:178|423:178|464:179|497:161|497:161|455:107|485:45,1,280.799991430664,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
492,32,61633,1,0,1:0:0:0:
480,8,61727,1,0,1:0:0:0:
448,0,61821,1,8,3:1:0:0:
416,16,61915,1,0,1:0:0:0:
412,44,62008,1,8,3:1:0:0:
424,176,62102,6,0,L|440:216,1,39,8|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
512,296,62290,2,0,L|496:252,1,39,0|8,1:0|3:1,0:0:0:0:
424,176,62477,1,0,1:0:0:0:
400,280,62665,1,8,0:2:0:0:
504,180,62852,1,0,1:0:0:0:
296,204,63031,6,0,P|248:172|204:84,1,156,4|8,1:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
307,86,63593,2,0,P|277:157|216:204,1,156,2|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
100,240,64156,2,0,P|92:276|100:316,1,78,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,156,64531,6,0,P|100:148|60:156,1,78,2|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,280,64906,1,8,0:1:0:0:
256,336,65093,1,0,1:0:0:0:
304,216,65281,2,0,L|288:120,1,78,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
364,32,65656,2,0,L|380:128,1,78,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,292,66031,6,0,P|348:336|256:336,1,156,2|8,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
168,304,66593,1,0,1:0:0:0:
216,152,66781,2,0,L|192:76,1,78,2|2,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
319,77,67156,2,0,L|296:152,1,78,8|2,0:1|1:2,0:0:0:0:
255,336,67531,6,0,P|179:343|124:292,1,156,2|8,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
96,204,68093,1,0,1:0:0:0:
209,257,68281,1,10,0:0:0:0:
256,100,68468,1,2,1:2:0:0:
256,100,68562,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,100,68656,2,0,P|296:92|332:100,1,78,0|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,184,69031,6,0,L|404:344,1,156,6|8,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
320,300,69593,1,0,1:0:0:0:
320,300,69781,2,0,L|232:308,1,78,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
172,200,70156,2,0,L|260:208,1,78,8|2,0:1|1:2,0:0:0:0:
104,272,70531,6,0,P|73:212|102:128,1,156,0|8,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
164,64,71093,1,0,1:0:0:0:
332,136,71281,1,2,0:0:0:0:
180,136,71468,1,2,1:2:0:0:
348,64,71656,1,8,0:1:0:0:
256,184,71843,1,2,1:2:0:0:
256,184,72031,6,0,L|256:340,1,156,2|8,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
480,84,72781,2,0,B|432:44|376:76|376:76|360:120,1,156,10|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
32,84,73531,2,0,B|80:44|136:76|136:76|152:120,1,156,10|8,0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
388,344,74281,6,0,P|348:352|312:344,1,78,2|8,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,272,74656,1,2,1:2:0:0:
164,272,74749,1,8,0:0:0:0:
164,272,74843,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,175,75031,6,0,P|385:141|348:40,1,156,4|8,1:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
192,25,75593,1,2,1:2:0:0:
308,112,75781,1,2,0:0:0:0:
175,169,75968,1,2,1:2:0:0:
361,174,76156,1,8,0:1:0:0:
264,333,76343,1,0,0:0:0:0:
226,106,76531,6,0,P|178:88|94:156,1,156,2|8,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
77,328,77093,1,2,1:2:0:0:
175,169,77281,1,10,0:0:0:0:
264,333,77468,1,2,1:2:0:0:
126,247,77656,2,0,L|48:242,1,78,8|0,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
264,183,78031,6,0,L|404:174,1,117,2|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
442,128,78406,2,0,P|452:84|440:48,1,78,8|0,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
252,11,78781,1,2,0:0:0:0:
380,175,78968,1,2,1:2:0:0:
227,312,79156,1,8,0:1:0:0:
99,148,79343,1,2,0:0:0:0:
289,265,79531,6,0,P|305:315|274:374,1,117,2|0,1:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
227,312,79906,2,0,P|210:263|226:222,1,78,8|0,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
296,117,80281,1,2,0:0:0:0:
157,180,80468,2,0,L|72:185,1,78,2|8,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
79,184,80749,1,8,0:0:0:0:
79,184,80843,1,8,1:2:0:0:
289,264,81031,6,0,L|406:269,1,117,6|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
472,307,81406,2,0,P|481:347|472:382,1,78,8|0,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
349,224,81781,2,0,P|339:186|348:148,1,78,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
469,24,82156,1,8,0:1:0:0:
420,184,82343,1,2,1:2:0:0:
305,61,82531,6,0,P|263:51|189:65,1,117,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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289,261,83281,2,0,L|283:183,1,78,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
193,62,83656,1,8,0:1:0:0:
356,164,83843,2,0,P|398:171|439:157,1,78,2|10,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
512,26,84218,5,2,0:0:0:0:
512,26,84312,1,2,0:0:0:0:
512,26,84406,1,8,0:1:0:0:
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256,192,88999,12,0,91343,3:2:0:0:

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Hobbes2

osu! Alumni

2,253 posts

Joined March 2016

Hobbes2 2016-09-01T05:39:10+00:00

You have potential as a good modder! >w<

BounceBabe mods are the future

[Crz]Derrick

28 posts

Joined July 2014

[Crz]Derrick 2016-09-01T10:32:37+00:00

ajeemaniz wrote:
[4K]
Hard
00:00:602 (602|0,977|1,1165|2) - better not to use vocal in mania
00:06:415 (6415|1) - to 4,
00:06:790 (6790|3) - to 1
00:15:508 - add
00:18:696 (18696|2) - move to 00:18:508 -
00:20:571 - 00:21:508 - 00:23:008 - add
00:26:290 (26290|3) - remove
00:29:290 (29290|1) - ^
00:32:290 (32290|3) - ^
00:33:415 (33415|3,33790|2,34165|1,34540|0) - make 1/1 LN for these notes to reduce the double and triples
00:49:446 - add?
01:04:999 - ^
01:07:812 - 01:07:999 - 01:26:937 - add

Sorry for being late!
Apply all, brilliant mods!! Great help. :3
Latest osu file after applying ajee's mods: https://puu.sh/qW5WC/dfeca718fe.osu

BounceBabe

1,626 posts

Joined October 2010

BounceBabe 2016-09-01T11:52:12+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Hellow! >w<

Fixed all from my parts, regarding the light insane and hard. Except the parts of the consistent jumps and the unrankable issue. /u\

Jumps mustn't be consistent to be accepted on any difficulty. o: The fact they're consistent might make them look good to the eye of the beholder but it has a completely different meaning at game-play (at least on my parts). I guess that's up to the mapper and in this case if they're inconsistent by 0.2 ~ 0.3 doesn't make them directly unplayable nor untidy at playing them. Hence, having some of them to be different don't make them bad imo. ;w; Yer, nowadays they don't have to be consistent anymore, which I find really sad. It's not supposed to "look" good, the main purpose of proper spacing is to keep a smooth gameplay. A lot of ppl do that when they mapped exactly the same pattern to the exact same musical section of a song. They use 1.2 on one, then 2,0 on the next for no reason. I also include playability for mouse players as there are a lot of tablet players now, including me. The harsh redirection of the cursor and mouse movement makes it difficult on the wrist to get to all the elements in time. It's not just about looks really. Even with tablet I found many maps that had inconsistent mapping but yet they didn't feel good to play because of that. Consistent spacing adds to the gameplay a lot imo. I never said having different spacing is bad, or makes it play bad, just that too much spacing change when the pattern is mapped to the same musical part, make no sense to me. I see that "mistake" many times on different mappers. For experienced players it can be enjoyable to play inconsistent maps and it might flow good to them, but as a mapper and modder, to me, it doesn't, because I have seen a lot of styles. Most of them have reason behind those inconsistencies, especially when the community was only 500k - 1mil back then. But yes, things have changed a lot in the past years. But due to the amount of ppl playing this game, the BAT system and strictness no longer existing, I think that the ranking system and ppl have developed more acceptance towards mapping. Whether it's good or not, that lies, as you say, in the eye of the beholder but to me it's a pain to look at and especially to play, even with tablet.

I'm not sure if what you call is exactly "unrankable" at today's standards since I didn't find anything against using sliders which do stack over each other or overlap themselves in a way players can't read them. I've asked a considerable amount of test-plays and they didn't have such as a big problem at reading them since the motion that this pattern 01:11:656 (3,1,2,3,4) - offers is intuitive. Stacking and overlapping are two different things. Stacking is placing the beginning of a slider point onto the ending of another slider point in your case. Overlapping is placing two element, in your case slider, on top of each other WHILE the ending AND beginning of the sliders are still fully visible. This is not the case here. Look at this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5989392. I moved the slider in time to make you see this better. The slider is almost completely hidden. The beginning of the slider can't be read properly because it overlaps with the previous one, the brown coloured slider and the ending point is also stacked with 01:12:031 (1) - which makes it even harder to detect the slider itself. There is only a small part visible which is the slider's body. "Intuition" is only an excuse to not see this issue in my eyes. And as a mapper and modder, you should see this as well. Don't rely too much on other ppl and what the testplays say. A lot of ppl have no idea what they talk about. So yes, I do strongly recommend you fix this in order for it to be readable. Hidden notes are never a good thing and only confuse players, especially players that are new to the game. Besides, if at all, such pattern and nearly impossible to read patterns shouldn't be in a Hard difficulty either way. The jumpy pattern 01:12:031 (1,2,3,4,1) - already is hard for a Hard difficulty. Adding hidden notes to them just makes it harder and almost "insane".

Very useful mod! and cute detailed as a whole. You have potential as a good modder! >w<

Well, I'm not afraid to state my opinion and that's how modding should be. Getting a variety of different opinions that add to improvement of the mapset. Most modders don't do that I find. I also explain a lot to make my point clear, otherwise you can't get your point across today lol You'll get answers like "I don't understand what you mean." or "This is fine as it is" without proper explanation of why not to change the suggestion offered. Be that as it may, try to be aware of such things in the future when mapping anything lower than Insane difficulties.

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-09-01T12:12:25+00:00

O: Ok! I will consider rearraging the pattern or thinking about something else once others have sent their updates. :3 Thanks for clarifying!

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-01T14:18:41+00:00

Why is everyone throwing text walls at each other ;__;

@Derrick pls send your update by copying everything in your .osu and paste here, on the thread within a box

Like this

osu! blah blah blah

sending via puush results in messed up metadata ;w;
I will post my reply soon~

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-01T15:30:54+00:00

BounceBabe wrote:
Request from my M4M Queue

What I checked in your mapset
Each point from the list below will have a check mark next to it (✓/ ✕/ ✫). This will tell you whether I checked that point or not.
✓= I checked this point and everything is okay.
✕= I didn't check this point because I think it doesn't need checking.
✫= I checked this point but something needs fixing (explained in the mod)
osu!wiki Modding page
osu!wiki Ranking Criteria page

📖 General 📖
✫ Mapset difficulty spread (Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane)
✫ Background design, skin and SB (if available) and combo colouring
✓ Metadata
> resolution of images, mp3, files,...
> bit rate of song
> hitsounds
> skin (missing elements and resolution checks) and SB (SB load) or video
✓/ ✕ / ✫ Unrankable issues

🕗 Timing 🕗
✕ KIAI time and breaks
✫ Slider Velocity and changes
✕ Timing changes
✫ Timing points
✕ BPM & Offset
✕ Preview point
✕ Unrankable issues

🎧 Sound 🎧
✓ Hitsounds (Do they match the song?)
✓ Hitsound patterns
✓ Hitsound volume (Timing points)
✫ Rhythm of hit objects (Do they match the song?)
✕ Unrankable issues

🖰 Object Gameplay 🖰
✫ Reasonable spacing patterns, spacing consistency, Jumps, Anti-Jumps, special pattern
✫ Flow and transition between elements
✫ Overmapping
✫ Unrankable issues (In addition to the link at the top)
> objects hitting the accuracy bar, HP bar or are out of playfield with the osu!standard skin
> overlaps and stacking
> unreadable objects

👀 Visual Gameplay 👀
✫ Combo patterns, New combos
✕ Blankets, symmetry
✕ Variety of different patterns and styles
✫ Unrankable issues

General

> It's probably not unrankable but highly confusing. Why does Easy and Hard have different BGs than the rest of the difficulties? If you want one specific BG for each GD, you should be consistent and add a different one on every single difficulty for it to match the design scheme. Different BGs are fine~ We discussed about this already, and decided to keep it as it is right now~
> AiMod says "Uninherited timing points conflict with X" You better check that. It means that there are differences for timing points throughout the mapset. They should be somewhat consistent as well unless intented. Did you do something Rocket? lol added a red line on Hard diff
> The SV changes at this section of the song 00:49:540 - is hard to notice especially on the hardest difficulty as 00:49:165 (4,2) - look like they have the same SV, which they don't, because of the same slider lenght. Without a closer look, it is not readable while playing and the players may not be able to adjust themself to this change so quickly. You should address this and maybe even think about a SB warning that informs the players from this upcoming, extraordinary SV change. I don't think this is necessary. If the SV change were random, it would surely need a warning or something or that sort. However, the SV change here corresponds and reflects the toning down of the music correctly~ So the music kinda give a warning to the players.
> AiMod says that you need at least 2 Mania difficulties. You might want to check this and ask around if you have to. Not my expertise tho. Kuo Kyoka is on this~ This set will have 2 mania diffs ultimately

Crystezek's Advanced

Spacing:
01:17:468 (4,1) - 01:20:843 (6,1) - That's the only spacing change / jump you have in this difficulty and there is not even a distinctive musical change that could justify this. Make the spacing consistent here. It will less likely confused players, since you've used only DS for the whole map and suddenly changed the spacing here. oi you missed a lot of things lol. namely 01:09:031 (1) - 01:15:031 (1) - 01:03:031 (1) - etc.

Rhythm & Pattern:
01:30:031 - The spinner should start here. There is clearly some vocal left until this point and the proper ending would be at that time, to also start the spinner. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5985675 Something like that would fit better and conclude the difficulty properly. Don't forget to add hitsounds as well. I made it this way because there is something different about the vocals between the slider part there, and the spinner part. Thus, it's separated into two parts, and I put some emphasis on the change by making it this way~

Furiends' Light Insane

> This is NOT a light Insane. This is a normal Insane and should be named like one. It's simply another, additional Insane. Without fixing, the spacing changes, jump and streams in this difficulty are definitely not "light". yes, this is a little bit harder that normal Light Insane. ~~hmm? why indeed?~~ but I will stick with Light Insane for now. The reason is to help players identify the difficulties correctly. This may be argued that the SR is ample for telling players what difficulty this is, but to make the pictures clearer~ I prefer LI.

Rhythm & Pattern:
01:27:031 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Since you mapped this section of the song to the vocals, you should map until 01:30:031 - and start the spinner at 01:30:031 - . Because technically, the sentence sung, that you mapped to, ends here 01:30:031 - not 01:28:906 - . The music may, but not the vocals, and that's what you mapped to. I mapped this spinner. Check my reply about the exactly same thing in the Advanced mod~

Ugh, I'll stop here. Without trying to be mean, the whole difficulty lacks spacing consistency. The jumps are randomly placed, mostly not matching the music, nor does the spacing have consistency. Placing elements onto previous elements to create "jumps" is not only incorrect use of creating jump patterns, it also breaks the spacing completely. I'd have to state almost every single element in this 1 minute song for your difficulty. Without adjustment this will be really hard to mod. I don't enjoy this difficulty. It's really hard to read and play and makes no sense to me. Patterns like this 00:20:665 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - are reasonable with consistent spacing that are playable, but the rest is really difficult. Most of the map is ok to look at but there are parts that are completely random. Not to mention that it's partially overmapped like here 00:36:790 (3,4) - . oi kitty, that last reverse of 00:36:790 (3) - is overmapped lol. Still, I beg to differ. The spacing, in my point of view, increases and decreases according to the music's intensity. However, there maybe some errors because this was mapped by 6 different mappers with 6 distinct styles. If you found any error, please let us know~ Maps nowadays tend to stick with this spacing algorithm, rather than making it consistent throughout the diff. Consistent spacing is good in a way, but this is also good for emphasizing the music overall~

Crystilz's Fur-ious

> You don't have to state your own name in your own mapset. Simply write "Fur-ious". Otherwise people may think this is a guest difficulty. I don't mind this being mistaken as a GD though lol. Anyways, this is my personal preference~ I want people to see this map as a big collaboration rather than a guy's map with lots of GDs.
> The difficulty is partially overmapped. You should get rid of the redundant elements that don't match with the music to keep the rhythm correct. Watch out for the triples and doubles, sometimes even single elements like 00:08:852 (5) - , which are not in the music. (5) lands on the vocal. I skipped 00:10:352 - because I want to emphasize the transition by making the rhythm change from 1/1 to 1/2~ Don't worry. I have triple-checked if any notes were overmapped already. Those notes were removed earlier.
> You've misued some NCs that disturb your combo pattern. They are listed below.
> I recommend using at least 1 spinner in your difficulty as it will provide more variety in the leaderboard across the players to achieve higher ranks. Without a spinner, the players wont be able to compete against each other, which makes achieving higher ranks impossible, even with mods active. The last bit of the song 01:30:031 - can be used perfectly to add a spinner that concludes the difficulty. It also makes the mapset generally consistent because all the other difficulties end with a spinner as well. tbh I really hate those spinners orz, but it needs to be done to bring variety to the leaderboard. With this difficulty, I think it should be enough, with additional mods and stuff.

Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:15:977 (9,10) - You should move them together like you did with 00:15:602 (7,9) - This is to avoid overlapping between the slider and the stream. If you have a better alternative, please let me know!~
00:20:290 (5) - 01:25:343 (8) - This note is hidden and is extremely hard to read, especially with this high AR. I recommend that you move it elsewhere or stack it with previous elements to avoid causing confusion. I don't think 01:25:343 (8) - is considered hidden lol. 00:20:290 (5) - and the slider it stacks with are 3/2 apart on the timeline, so it should be fine.

Spacing:
00:53:290 (2,3,1) - This part doesn't call for a spacing change. Even more since the music at this point is soft and quiet. You should adjust your spacing here and keep it consistent. This is just my style lol. To clarify, rather than using consistent spacing, my maps correspond to the music, note by note. For example, you may notice that 00:31:165 (4,5,1) - have different spacings. This is not for the sake of the pattern but rather intentionally done~ The same goes for things like 00:32:477 (5) - 00:46:165 (4) - 00:47:102 (2,3) - 00:47:852 (4,1) - 00:48:415 (2,3,4) - Though there may be some errors and this thing is partly omitted in the kiais, but I try to keep it as nice as possible~
01:20:281 (5,6) - I don't see why you would change the spacing here when the whole pattern 01:20:281 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - is one stream. Same with 01:24:031 (1,2) - actually 01:20:843 (9) - is an extended slider lolol The jump at 01:21:031 (1) - is, obviously, for emphasis. This thing here 01:24:031 (1,2) - is just to be consistent. If you did not notice, I always keep the sliderends clear. like 01:07:343 (5,1,2,3,4) -

Combo:
00:58:540 (3) - NC should be here instead of 00:58:352 (1) - if youre going for a 4 beat combo pattern. Yep I stick with that, but with one more thing. If there is a double/ triplet before the note on the big white bar, I will put nc on that note instead. This is consistent throughout the diff (unless I slipped).

The spacing is really consistent on this one apart from a few places, listed above, unlike on the "Light Insane". Good job!

Overall

The BG changes are confusing and the spacing needs more consistency. Mostly the mapset has good flow, appearance and also rhythmically correct patterns. The hitsounding is very good. It's a decent mapset. GJ everyone. Thanks >//<

Now for the feedback~
This mod here is really well organized with concise language~ Points are expressed with ample supporting reasons and are divided into parts based on the topic each of them focuses on~ Really well done! Keep it up \o/
But still, you should take the mapper's style into account. Even if you dislike the mapping style, try to improve it as the way it is~Even so, you should not discard your personal opinions either! Express it in a constructive way, and also focus on improving the map in its current form.

Thanks a lot~
I hope the explanations satisfy you orz
I will give you 120 kds if i can lol

oops double post

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-09-02T04:44:59+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Normal]
00:51:790 (2,3) - There is a DS warning in the AImod
00:52:540 (3,4) - ^
00:54:040 (5,6) - ^
00:54:415 (6,7) - ^
00:54:790 (7,8) - ^ That aimod sacing things don't matter~
00:10:165 (5,6) - maybe change them into a 1/2slider? A 1/2 slider doesn't give emphasis to the vocals as I wish to
01:28:906 (1,2,3) - a return slider maybe better? this place dont need a great sence of clickable I want to give more importance to the last vocals, using circles works imo~

Thanks 4 the mod!

BounceBabe wrote:
ezek's Normal

Hitsounds:
00:10:352 (6) - Should also have a normal hitclap to match the music. Also feels a bit empty without. Nah, it doesn't cuz there's no clap in that place, and I want to support the vocals with this circle, I feels like the clap ruins it~

Rhythm & Pattern:
00:38:102 (2) - The slider should be a circle and 1/1 slider to match the vocals more that you mapped to at this point. Like you did here 00:38:852 (4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5985558 Ok, applied~
00:59:852 - There really is a circle missing to go with the vocals and it should be added to complete the pattern's 00:58:540 (1,2,3) - rhythm properly. This is a calm part, I don't want to map everything since that would make it feel like a hard there ;w; I feel the current rhythm is fine since it simplifies the vocals in an understandable way~

Spacing:
00:49:540 (1,2,3) - I'm disappointed xD Inconsistent spacing for symmetry? Nope. Especially not on a Normal difficulty. RIP fancy symmetry, fixed xd

Combo:
01:01:540 (1,1,2,3) - Inconsistent combo pattern. There's no need to change the combo pattern for drums in the music. The amount of beats will remain the same. Well, it's not only for the drums, there's also a slider velocity change, which is making this NC necessary~
01:01:540 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Yykes. You changed your combo pattern here completely from 8 to 4 bars. Choose one. I choose 8 bars, oki? :v
01:28:906 (1) - Remove Nc again to fix your combo pattern, unless you went for a 4 bar pattern after the two points i mentioned above. I will keep this since I wanna emphasize the final vocals~ (nc + only circles does the trick for me)

Sir, this part you see below ↓ seems to be aimed at CrystilonZ's parts on the advanced diff :v
Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:24:602 (2,1) - The NC slider has already appeared before you even play the reversed slider. 00:24:602 (2,1) - This makes it look like you have to play 2 to 1 in a stream. It confused me a bit. You should stack those for it not to look so messy and be more readable. It will look cleaner once you've stacked them.
00:31:540 (1,2) - You could blanket this gap between the two sliders a bit better for appearance.

Seems Normal was the only thing I had to check, wehee! ^^

Thanks for the ~~Holy Bible~~ mod! \:D/

Update me plz

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CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-02T10:30:57+00:00

BounceBabe wrote:
Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:24:602 (2,1) - The NC slider has already appeared before you even play the reversed slider. 00:24:602 (2,1) - This makes it look like you have to play 2 to 1 in a stream. It confused me a bit. You should stack those for it not to look so messy and be more readable. It will look cleaner once you've stacked them. eh? but I think unstacking them is more readable tho.
00:31:540 (1,2) - You could blanket this gap between the two sliders a bit better for appearance. I hope i got this correctly

It's more like a thesis than the holy bible lol

Alsty-

638 posts

Joined March 2016

Alsty- 2016-09-02T13:44:44+00:00

request from my queue , sorry , this week im a bit tired because of rl and make me not in mood to do mod , but i have already open those NM slots.
takes my star , for my apologize.

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

__Ag 2016-09-02T16:45:47+00:00

hi,from my queue,nice chinese song
[crystilz]
00:21:790 (8) - NC here?

00:32:477 (5,1) - lap here was not good

00:40:915 (2,3,4) - Obtuse was difficult to play

[Furiends]
00:03:790 (2) - it was not flat,and00:04:540 (1,2) - you can make them to straight

[Boatocket]
why this diff's end time was different from others？

00:24:040 (4,5) - you can do more good blanket

00:57:602 (4,5) - make them to straight?

GL

[Crz]Derrick

28 posts

Joined July 2014

[Crz]Derrick 2016-09-03T14:38:14+00:00

CrystilonZ wrote:
Why is everyone throwing text walls at each other ;__;

@Derrick pls send your update by copying everything in your .osu and paste here, on the thread within a box
Like this
osu! blah blah blah
sending via puush results in messed up metadata ;w;
I will post my reply soon~

Oh really?? I will paste that as soon as possible. Sorry about that ;w;

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-03T14:57:31+00:00

__Ag wrote:
hi,from my queue,nice chinese song ikr~
[crystilz]
00:21:790 (8) - NC here? This is done correctly according to my pattern

00:32:477 (5,1) - lap here was not good I guess you mean overlap. I can stack them, but for readability stuff, I think unstacking them is better~

00:40:915 (2,3,4) - Obtuse was difficult to play //google what obtuse is // but patterns like this one are all over the diff QAQ and it flows just fine imo~

GL thanks!~*

Thanks for the mod~

[Crz]Derrick wrote:
CrystilonZ wrote:
Why is everyone throwing text walls at each other ;__;

@Derrick pls send your update by copying everything in your .osu and paste here, on the thread within a box
Like this
osu! blah blah blah
sending via puush results in messed up metadata ;w;
I will post my reply soon~
Oh really?? I will paste that as soon as possible. Sorry about that ;w;

no need for that; I fixed them and updated the diff~
but make sure you send it via this method next time~* \:D/

Alsty- wrote:
request from my queue , sorry , this week im a bit tired because of rl and make me not in mood to do mod , but i have already open those NM slots.
takes my star , for my apologize.

No worries~
Thanks for letting me know + the star

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-09-03T16:07:08+00:00

__Ag wrote:
[Furiends]
00:03:790 (2) - it was not flat,and00:04:540 (1,2) - you can make them to straight. MY MOM APPROVES THIS SUGGESTION AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Boatocket]
why this diff's end time was different from others Because it ends where music stops. /u\

00:24:040 (4,5) - you can do more good blanket. AY CARAMBA HOLY YES

thank you very much! o3o/

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CrystilonZ

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Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-03T16:16:03+00:00

holy moly rocket calm down

Lilyanna

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Joined March 2016

Lilyanna 2016-09-03T19:16:21+00:00

from my queue

easy:

00:04:540 (2) - make the white nodes symmetrical for better clean shape
00:42:790 (4) - ctrl-j and place it back for better flow
00:45:040 (3) - maybe same here

normal:

00:28:540 (1,2) - not appealing
00:39:040 (4,5) - these red nodes giving them wierd shape even tho u trying make them look orf flow like something special
01:28:906 (1) - remove nc
01:29:656 (3) - move to x147 y108 idk i cant help it xd

Advanced :

00:10:540 (5) - nc
01:13:531 (3) - u nc every downbeat why not nc here maybe nc for consistency
01:26:843 (1,3) - swap the nc on downbeat

Hard :

00:08:665 (4,5) - aw i would recommand u avoid stacking it on the revers arrow signe
00:21:040 (5,6) - doesnt look so nice it clearly overlaps
00:35:290 (3,5) - maybe blanket
00:49:165 (8,9,10,1) - maybe stack the notes also the jump from 00:49:165 (8,9) - is not needed imo
01:30:031 - maybe add another spinner like the other diff did in the end.

adding ur name confused me with gds!!!!!
I hope its helpful even little >//<. I m being attacked by bears lately to mod thier maps D: xD Good luck!

CrystilonZ

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Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-03T19:26:29+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
I m being attacked by bears lately to mod thier maps D:

RAWRRR MOD MY MAP!!

Lilyanna wrote:
from my queue

Advanced :

00:10:540 (5) - nc done!~
01:26:843 (1,3) - swap the nc on downbeat ^

adding ur name confused me with gds!!!!! XDDD
I hope its helpful even little >//<. I m being attacked by bears lately to mod thier maps D:

xD Good luck!

Thanks for the mod~~*

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-09-03T19:42:47+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
00:08:665 (4,5) - aw i would recommand u avoid stacking it on the revers arrow signe
00:21:040 (5,6) - doesnt look so nice it clearly overlaps You're right! But for aethistic purposes, I'd rather keep this overlap to make the motion to be smoother
00:35:290 (3,5) - maybe blanket
00:49:165 (8,9,10,1) - maybe stack the notes also the jump from 00:49:165 (8,9) - is not needed imo
01:30:031 - maybe add another spinner like the other diff did in the end. OMG HOLY YISUS. REPORRRRRTTTTTTT *fixed*

T-T-T-Thank you very much! xD

Update desu ne, will Crystil senpai notice? /w\

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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
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TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Ju Tou San Chi Tian Qi Qing
TitleUnicode:舉頭三尺天氣晴
Artist:Paroto
ArtistUnicode:パロト
Creator:CrystilonZ
Version:Boatocket's Hard
Source:家有大貓
Tags:Nekojishi jiā yǒu dà māo jia you da mao mau Nviek5 クエン酸P 晴空和音 Triodust 空氣載體 furry ezek HappyRocket88 BoatKrab KittyAdventure Shiroi Hiroshi Shiroitty Boatocket gokugohan12468 collab collaboration 鸚鵡 ajeemaniz exusagi Nwolf Furiends Crystezek [Crz]Derrick
BeatmapID:1055521
BeatmapSetID:495866

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.7
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-04T05:06:59+00:00

senpai notices you~

technically you're my senpai tho lolol

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-09-04T05:41:55+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
normal:

00:28:540 (1,2) - not appealing the fact that this pattern is not as appealing as you doesn't make it ugly~ I find it good~
00:39:040 (4,5) - these red nodes giving them wierd shape even tho u trying make them look orf flow like something special I do this almost on all my maps and is not an issue at all~
01:28:906 (1) - remove nc I added nc here to give more emphasis to the last words on the song~
01:29:656 (3) - move to x147 y108 idk i cant help it xd this gave me the idea of making the whole pattern symmetrical once for all~

Advanced :

01:13:531 (3) - u nc every downbeat why not nc here maybe nc for consistency ah ok, fixed~

Thanks Lily! ^^

Shun shun shun~

Normal

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Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-09-05T12:30:10+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
from my queue

easy:

00:04:540 (2) - make the white nodes symmetrical for better clean shape
00:42:790 (4) - ctrl-j and place it back for better flow. it's symmetrical!
00:45:040 (3) - maybe same here. ^

Thank you for mod, guys! :3 (Also, fixed all from kanor's mod)
No comment = Fixed!

@CrystilonZ: I think i have a problem with our easy diff, can you check it? and can you remove nc in 00:49:165 (1) in furiends's light insane diff? thank you :3

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SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,108 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-09-05T16:43:19+00:00

[Shiroitty's Easy]

nothing much to say, just polish your diff lol, the ds of the whole map is inconsistent, example - 00:20:290 (3) -

[ezek's Normal]

00:09:790 (4,5) - a 1/1 slider here seems better and more consistent
00:49:540 - hmm why using different ds here? normal diff should be consist in ds even in calm part or kiai
01:07:531 (4,5) - not straight lol
01:26:656 (6,1) - change the ds to x1.1 for consistent
01:29:843 - why not map the vocal here either

[Crystezek's Advanced]

00:36:415 (2,3,4) - 00:39:040 (1,2,3) - 00:39:790 (4,5,6) - 00:45:790 (2,3,4) - can you make the triple like this same as 00:27:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - or 00:42:040 (1,2,3,4) - ? cuz stacking plays rly weird
01:08:656 (5,1) - inconsistent ds

[Boatocket's Hard]

00:25:540 (1) - should get more emphasis
00:39:602 (6,7) - this will be too hard for a hard diff imo, consider to ctrl + g
00:44:852 (4,5) - spacing here shouldnt be increased this much
01:26:281 (3,4,5) - consist the spacing here would looks neater

[Furiends' Light Insane]

00:04:258 (1) - wat is this note lol, should be at 00:04:540 - or swhere but not 00:04:258 -
00:49:165 (1) - unnecessary nc
01:02:008 (6,1) - dont you think this is too hard for light insane? this kinda spaced stream should be in extra or higher, not in light insane
01:27:031 (1,2,3,4) - should get larger spacing cuz the current spacing is similar to 1/2

[Crystilz's Fur-ious]

00:08:852 (5) - i quite dont understand why you map a note here, cuz there isnt a kick that you are following here so this note is following nothing rn =w=
00:32:852 (6) - 00:38:852 (6) - should NC here instead cuz here is where the vocal change
00:53:196 - 00:52:446 - imo here can add a note either for consistent cuz they got music to support
00:57:040 (1,1) - i dont suggest this kinda long slider at the highest diff cuz you are missing a lot of sound, you can do sth like wat youve done at 00:49:540 -
01:12:031 (1) - i would say 1/2 is better then 3/4 here cuz the sliderend didnt got an obvious sound so support the sliderend, 1/2 is fine cuz it follow the main music rhythm
01:29:656 (1) - start the slider at 01:29:843 - cuz you are missing a important vocal lol

GL~

CrystilonZ

1,569 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

CrystilonZ 2016-09-05T17:17:38+00:00

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

[Crystezek's Advanced]
00:36:415 (2,3,4) - 00:39:040 (1,2,3) - 00:39:790 (4,5,6) - 00:45:790 (2,3,4) - can you make the triple like this same as 00:27:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - or 00:42:040 (1,2,3,4) - ? cuz stacking plays rly weird I unstacked 00:27:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - to give the map some sense of progression~ because they follow the piano. 00:36:040 (1,2,3,4,5) - follow the drum, so I think stacking might be the better option
[Furiends' Light Insane]
01:27:031 (1,2,3,4) - should get larger spacing cuz the current spacing is similar to 1/2 I know orz but larger spacing will ruin the slowing mood here orz
[Crystilz's Fur-ious]
00:08:852 (5) - i quite dont understand why you map a note here, cuz there isnt a kick that you are following here so this note is following nothing rn =w= Actually i'm following the clap + the vocals lol. For information, see my reply to BounceBabe's mod
00:32:852 (6) - 00:38:852 (6) - should NC here instead cuz here is where the vocal change okidoki
00:53:196 - 00:52:446 - imo here can add a note either for consistent cuz they got music to support tried. The emphasis on the vocals is kinda lost if done so orz
00:57:040 (1,1) - i dont suggest this kinda long slider at the highest diff cuz you are missing a lot of sound, you can do sth like wat youve done at 00:49:540 - going for the vocals~ I think skipping some beats in this very slow part here won't hurt
01:12:031 (1) - i would say 1/2 is better then 3/4 here cuz the sliderend didnt got an obvious sound so support the sliderend, 1/2 is fine cuz it follow the main music rhythm since I always use extended sliders on dragging vocals, so why not?
01:29:656 (1) - start the slider at 01:29:843 - cuz you are missing a important vocal lol I would like to, but the vocals seem a bit unsnapped to 1/4 bars at this point. So, just to keep things simple~
GL~

Thanks for the mod

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-09-07T17:51:10+00:00

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

[ezek's Normal]
00:09:790 (4,5) - a 1/1 slider here seems better and more consistent I want o emphasize the two vocals by making them clickable~
00:49:540 - hmm why using different ds here? normal diff should be consist in ds even in calm part or kiai I fixed this on a previous mods, but seems SOMEONE *cough cough* CrystilonZ *cough cough* didn't update my diff :v
01:07:531 (4,5) - not straight lol well, it's a gay map, so why would you expect a straight slider? okno, fixed O3O
01:26:656 (6,1) - change the ds to x1.1 for consistent spacing is detected different because of the sv reduction, this is fine~
01:29:843 - why not map the vocal here either
[Crystezek's Advanced]
01:08:656 (5,1) - inconsistent ds intentional, it's a small jump for emphasis

GL~

Thanks for the mod!

Don't forget to update this time, Crys! ;w;

and remove nc 01:13:531 (1) - here on the advanced diff plz

Normal shun shun shun

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CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-07T17:57:42+00:00

ezek wrote:
01:07:531 (4,5) - not straight lol well, it's a gay map, so why would you expect a straight slider? okno, fixed O3O

Best meme 2016

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-08T04:14:00+00:00

Well my rule says I won't icon hybrid sets unless it's just std+taiko and taiko diffs have been confirmed by a Taiko BN. I guess Raiden is going to confirm Taiko diffs but I still know nothing about the mania diff, so I'll just do something like "std diffs are ready" thing if I find this good enough.

So..... mod incoming soon.

HappyRocket88

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Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-09-08T04:33:53+00:00

OMG >w<

ZekeyHache

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Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-09-08T04:37:43+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
OMG >w<

OYG

CrystilonZ

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Joined January 2013

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-08T04:39:18+00:00

#memezek

Thanks a lot for the check >_<

BoatKrab

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BoatKrab 2016-09-08T11:27:52+00:00

กำ ไม่ได้มามองนานเลย
พี่เหมือกแก้ให้หน่อยนะ งานย่งเหยิงมาก ตั้งแต่ รด ละ 555+
ฝากด้วย // วิ่ง

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-08T15:07:25+00:00

Boat asked me to fix things for him wee~

Some specific points I'd like to mention

HARD

01:01:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - yeeeah.. This stream is a bit too hard for Hard diff. However, considering we have that 1/4 fuck you jump on LI and fck me combo-breaker stream on Insane, this might actually be good for the spread~ Besides, it has jumpier-than-usual Advanced to support it, so it should be fine. this is why i decided to add an advanced in the first place lol
01:22:343 (5) - and 01:23:843 (1) - I don't know why exactly either, but it seems like Boat want to get somewhere with these particular sliders, so I will keep it as it is for now.

hue

Kaitjuh

863 posts

Joined December 2012

Kaitjuh 2016-09-08T22:27:30+00:00

Help I fell in love with the song

Fucking Furries wait what

General

Sorry if I mentioned things that have been mentioned before.
Derrick's 4K Sunlight is not using the video file
Video offset is missing in Furiends' Light Insane and Derrick's 4K <-- duh
Boatocket's Hard's Last spinner seems to end on the Blue Tick. Since the ending time seems more appropriate to end here (to me at least) try and change this in the other diffs as well.

Shiroitty's Easy

KittyAdventure

00:01:540 (1,2) - These two sliders could be more symmetrical, try matching the white and red ticks together with Ctrl+H to flip the slider on itself.
00:51:790 (2,1) - Swap NC's

Shiroi Hiroshi

00:13:540 (1) - This is where music gets hyper and the beats kick in. Yet it's represented with one big slider. This should be divided into two sliders imo.

ezek's Normal

00:10:352 (6) - Missing hitsound?
00:49:540 (1,3) - Make these shapes similar for consistencies sake?

Crystezek's Advanced

CrystilonZ

00:07:540 (1) - Maybe increase slider velocity in this part, since the music starts to accelerate.
00:59:665 (1,2,1) - Maybe change spacing here to indicate the difference in time in which you have to click, since these are evenly spaced out, but you have to hit the last one earlier than the others. I'm not sure if just an NC is enough indication for that.
01:23:281 (3,5) - This overlap does not look good.

ezek

01:09:593 (2) - You're missing a strong beat here imo. maybe try something along the lines of this?

BoatRocket's Hard

Rocket

00:01:540 (1,1) - this difference in spacing is so small it might as well be stacked imo xD
01:01:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - The hitsounds on don't follow the drums that well

BoatKrab

00:22:540 (1,2) - Maybe align the sliderhead more with the sliderbody so it looks better and isn't as close to 00:23:665 (3) -
00:55:540 (1) - Curve up instead of down. This gives better flow imo

Furiends' Light Insane

Rocket

00:03:790 (2) - Ctrl + G
00:57:040 (1) - Remake this slider if you wanted to just make a loop because you dont need red anchors for that. Also the curve feels kinda weird idk lol

Shiroi Hiroshi

00:31:165 (4) - I think the flow could be improved with something like this maybe?

Crystilz's Fur-ious

:^)

Good Luck~

Separating names is hard

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-09T05:35:36+00:00

Help I fell in love with the cats <3
Gonna reply soon~

Kaitjuh wrote:
Derrick's 4K Sunlight is not using the video file I don't know anything about mania lol. Leaving this to derrick
Video offset is missing in Furiends' Light Insane and Derrick's 4K <-- duh oopsies nice catch!
Boatocket's Hard's Last spinner seems to end on the Blue Tick. Since the ending time seems more appropriate to end here (to me at least) try and change this in the other diffs as well. got it owo7 moved in ALL diff. If you feel uncomfortable with it, tell me and i will fix it back asap~
Crystezek's Advanced
CrystilonZ
00:07:540 (1) - Maybe increase slider velocity in this part, since the music starts to accelerate. that might be a good idea OwO, but considering this is an Advanced, I think keeping things nice and simple might be a better option. Also, I want to minimize sudden SV changes~
00:59:665 (1,2,1) - Maybe change spacing here to indicate the difference in time in which you have to click, since these are evenly spaced out, but you have to hit the last one earlier than the others. I'm not sure if just an NC is enough indication for that. done!
01:23:281 (3,5) - This overlap does not look good. QAQ I can't make out a legit way to fix this orz. If you have any suggestions, please tell me~
Crystilz's Fur-ious
:^) i wish i could S my diff orz. can't even get an A

Good Luck~

Separating names is hard hue

Thanks for the mod~~

ps. pushed OD to 7.3 for more score variation. 7.5 seems a bit too traumatizing lol

[]

Kaitjuh wrote:
Fucking Furries wait what

Don't worry you're one of us now >:D

ZekeyHache

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ZekeyHache 2016-09-09T17:34:19+00:00

Kaitjuh wrote:
ezek's Normal
00:10:352 (6) - Missing hitsound? not really, the claps on red ticks begin after the spinner starts~
00:49:540 (1,3) - Make these shapes similar for consistencies sake? I had them equal, but... the spacing was messed up because of that, and I didn't find a good way of leaving them equally shaped uwu
Crystezek's Advanced
ezek
01:09:593 (2) - You're missing a strong beat here imo. maybe try something along the lines of this? I feel focusing on the red ticks there sounds better, the white tick there is not that strong :v

no changes from me, thanks for the mod! ^^

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-09T20:13:55+00:00

Alright this song took my attention so I came here now.

[Shiroitty's Easy]
* I think this diff can be a bit more polished. Like it would be great if things like 00:08:290 (2,3,4) - are more balanced.
* 00:12:040 (2) - There's a strong drum on the sliderend, and 00:10:540 (1) - 00:12:040 (2) - are not same drums so it can be divided into a 2/1 slider and a circle.
* 00:13:540 (1) - This is good. However, you didn't use these long sliders on any of those similar sounds 00:16:540 (1,2) - 00:19:540 (1,2,3) - 00:22:540 (1,2) - and mostly filled the 1/1 beats, so this rather feels a bit empty. So consider filling 1/1s out here as well or change others into long sliders too.
* 00:22:540 (1,2,3) - This can look nicer if you rotate 3 to make it more balanced. http://puu.sh/r5wxy/f560c7cb1b.jpg
* 00:20:290 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - You see the similarity or all these? They are all 1/1 sliders! Players will play the exact same rhythm for 8 seconds, which could be very boring. You can try to represent something specific in the song, or just simply make variations and provide fun rhythms and patterns.
* 00:28:540 (1,2,3,4) - Compared to the previous 1/1 chains, this suddenly became empty for no reason. It's just the same sonud as 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - , so there's no reason to reduce the density. Or this can be done in the opposite way, by reducing the density of 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) -
* 00:33:040 (3) - I'd really cut this to 1/1s and represent the vocal on the middle.
* 00:45:790 (4) - I wouldn't put the downbeat on a sliderend, when there's even a strong vocal sound. I'd rather use the reverse slider on 00:45:040 -
* 00:49:540 (1) - Use a 3/2 slider for 00:50:102 - this sound, just as you did on 00:55:540 (1) -
* 00:55:540 (1) - and this blanket is off.
* 00:58:540 (1) - This spinner doesn't seem to be following any specific sounds, because the vocal 'interrupts' in the middle of the spinner, and this is basically just same as the previous part, so I think it's rather inconsistent to suddenly put a spinner here. So maybe try to just fill with notes.
* 01:07:531 (3) - If you were trying to be consistent with 01:04:531 (3) - , I'd say they're just different sounds. There is an obvious vocal that is hard to ignore on 01:07:906 - unlike 01:04:906 - . Same for 01:19:531 (3) - , and 01:10:531 (3) - can be adjusted a bit so that the turning point is exactly on 01:10:906 -
* 01:12:781 (2,3,4) - Could you make this more balanced? It really looks flawed for me D:
* 01:15:031 (1,2) - Also blanket
* 01:25:531 (3) - As 01:24:031 (1) - represented the loooong vocal, this should be different and represent 01:25:906 - this vocal sound.

[ezek's Normal]
* 00:10:352 (6) - This note is weird because you never represented any of 1/2 vocals before so this is a bit of sudden. Also 00:07:540 (1,2,3,4,5) - these were all following the strong 1/1 drums (and not 1/2 vocals between them) so that note rather seems to be out of rhythm instead of representing the vocal properly.
* 00:10:540 (1) - This can be extended to 00:12:790 - where more sounds begin. Ignoring an entire measure to spin for one measure is super boring for a Normal diff, especially when there are loud sounds are going on.
* 00:41:852 - is stronger than 00:38:852 - so idk why you did the opposite
* 00:53:852 (4) - Again I really not recommend this because 00:52:540 (3) - this entire slider is already far from representing the vocals, ignoring both 00:52:915 - 00:53:290 - . So this is really a sudden transition to instruments to vocals, even with a complicated rhythm choice.
* 01:09:031 (1,2) - This rhythm is a bit weird because 01:09:406 - 01:10:906 - are stronger than reverse arrows. So when you don't have notes on those white ticks it makes less sense to have notes on the red ticks instead. The vocals are perfectly on the white ticks as well, so imo this is representing very weak sounds instead of what is major in this section.
* 01:29:749 (1) - There's another vocal on 01:29:843 - so starting it there makes more sense

[Crystezek's Advanced]
* The note density is just a Hard diff, on a 160bpm song. So AR6 is pretty slow with this. I'd recommend 6.5 or 7
* 00:10:633 (1) - Advanced diff is not-yet-a-Hard-diff so 1 beat rest after a spinner is still demanding for the target players. Furthermore, the next note is pretty much away from the center so it's pretty challenging. Consider reducing the spinner to 00:12:790 -
* 00:49:540 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - This whole part is easier than Normal and almost equals to Easy diff, which can cause some spread issues. There are a lot more sounds you can represent, so why not fill them out?
* 01:23:281 (3,4,5) - This looks really ugly tbh, this map isn't even an overlapping style lol, could you try to find a better solution?
* 01:28:156 (2,3) - If you didn't notice, this is the only overlapped 1/2 so this can be a bit confusing. You already ignored 01:27:406 - this vocal so it's also quite a sudden. Something like http://puu.sh/r5A2y/b19e2df113.jpg would be easier to notice.

5:13 AM here, I'll continue this tomorrow.

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-09-10T01:29:49+00:00

Fixed everything from hards! Regarding Light Insane I'd rather keep the flow this slider created for variation purposes. ;w; But I'll change it asap if you could provode another slider-shape. >w<

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CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-10T06:36:08+00:00

I just finished my ACT and I got hit with another text wall QAQ
Sry, my reply will come later. I just cant 't do it now orz kill me

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-10T06:52:23+00:00

I'm a wall of text writer if you didn't notice lol, not much and good as Wafu though >.<

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-10T07:37:29+00:00

[Boatocket's Hard]
I used the update code, so don't worry.
* 00:08:102 (2) - There's no sound worth clickable, I'd just stick to 1/1s here, if there's no vocal.
* 00:17:102 (2,3,4,5) - You can notice 3-5 is a bit closer than 2-4, and integrating them would make it nicer
* 00:51:040 (5) - Idk why this is a 3/2 slider, the vocal is on 00:51:790 - and the strong drum is on 00:51:415 - . Considering how 00:52:540 (1,2,3) - strictly follow the vocals only, this vocal should be represented as well imo.
* Also consider putting a note 00:53:102 - here as you represented 00:50:102 - and 00:56:102 - 00:59:102 - too.
* 00:53:852 (3) - The vocal ends on around 00:54:790 - , so extending further makes it weird.
* 01:01:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Well I don't really agree with this being on a Hard diff. This is not only because of a 7-note-stream, but combined with the following 1/4 sliders, it's really intense. Also there's something that doesn't make much sense with the music too. 01:02:383 (8) - Players have to click this on a blue tick, which is really not expected for a Hard diff. And there's no even a strong sound there, the strongest drum is 01:02:477 - here. Also 01:02:571 - here doesn't have a drum. So doing http://puu.sh/r68Si/801baedcbd.jpg this will make this pattern more fit a Hard diff, and also follow the music better.
* 01:30:031 (1) - The start of the spinner doesn't really work as a downbeat anymore, and it's only weird because the vocal is on 01:29:843 - and not there. Starting it on either 01:29:656 - or 01:29:843 - would work better imo.
* Also I'd put 00:13:540 (1,2) - 00:15:040 (4,5) - 00:22:540 (1,2) - 01:04:156 (3,1) - 01:05:656 (4,1) - more correctly lol

Sorry for a short post again, but I have an appointment so I'll continue other diffs later again...

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-10T11:24:21+00:00

That's not short aaaaahhh XDD

I womder what your 'long' post is like lol

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-10T11:44:27+00:00

Oh if I have enough time then I would have posted mod for all diffs in one post, then it'll be long xD

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-10T13:20:54+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Alright this song took my attention so I came here now.

[Crystezek's Advanced]
* The note density is just a Hard diff, on a 160bpm song. So AR6 is pretty slow with this. I'd recommend 6.5 or 7 going with 6.5~
* 00:10:633 (1) - Advanced diff is not-yet-a-Hard-diff so 1 beat rest after a spinner is still demanding for the target players. Furthermore, the next note is pretty much away from the center so it's pretty challenging. Consider reducing the spinner to 00:12:790 - yes it's a bit hard to focus on the note 1/1 after the spinner, but considering that Hard has something like this, keeping this might be better for the spread O_O Plus, this emphasize the wooshy sound really well imo
* 00:49:540 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - This whole part is easier than Normal and almost equals to Easy diff, which can cause some spread issues. There are a lot more sounds you can represent, so why not fill them out? I really like how the difficulty and the density drop sharply here QAQ but i'm more worried about the spread. Added some notes, but keeping 4/1 sliders as they emphasize the vocals really really well <3. Also keeping few last rooms of this section. I want to bring the attention back to the vocals here to emphasize them, so I skip all the instruments lol
* 01:23:281 (3,4,5) - This looks really ugly tbh, this map isn't even an overlapping style lol, could you try to find a better solution? I came up with one, but I doubt that it's better lel
* 01:28:156 (2,3) - If you didn't notice, this is the only overlapped 1/2 so this can be a bit confusing. You already ignored 01:27:406 - this vocal so it's also quite a sudden. Something like http://puu.sh/r5A2y/b19e2df113.jpg would be easier to notice. okidoki~ implemented

5:13 AM here, I'll continue this tomorrow.

Doyak wrote:
Oh if I have enough time then I would have posted mod for all diffs in one post, then it'll be long xD

I'd be flattened by the sheer amount of text lol

HappyRocket88

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HappyRocket88 2016-09-10T17:18:56+00:00

Fixed all from my parts! >w< Thank you very much Doyak! :3

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Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-10T18:10:21+00:00

@CrystilonZ: Then could you at least move the note to around center? Moving that faraway right after a spinner is stressing. You know, that Hard's 1/4 sliders actually requires very easy action, and almost same as just 1/1 clicks. And I don't know if ezek will fix the Normal diff, but it has 4 beat rest atm. So this is rather a big gap.

[Furiends' Light Insane]
* Tbh this is not a 'light' insane, just rename this to Insane lol. The hardest diff isn't using the name of Insane anyway.
* Also because of this is not a 'light' insane, use higher OD maybe xD

HappyRocket88
* 00:01:540 (1) - lol Rocket why did you do this? 1. I don't hear a sound on the reverse arrow 00:02:290 - 2. You missed a vocal + piano 00:02:102 - 3. 00:01:540 (1,2) - A sudden acceleration in a same combo, for what reason? 4. 00:03:790 (2,1,2,3,4,5) - These are all following the vocal but only miss them at the beginning? Idk why you didn't do http://puu.sh/r6umV/d00463d097.jpg this.
* 00:06:790 (5) - Another sudden deceleration, why not use NC on it?
* 00:10:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This pattern is uhh, let me tell you some things. 00:10:540 (1,2,3,4) - you made a triangle that goes back to its original place with first 4 notes. And those beats repeat themselves once again, so there's no reason for the second 4 notes to be different. I'm talking about 00:11:852 (8) - this note. I see what it's intended for but it rather seems to be a random jump because it's nothing different than other 7 sounds 00:10:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - which are all ds-fixed. Another issue this made is that this is even bigger than the transition to the next note 00:11:852 (8,1) - so the pattern differentiation is blurred. Also 00:11:665 (7,8,1) - this flow itself isn't very nice as well. So I give you an alternation here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6061292 (which I don't think that nice as well D:)
* 01:02:008 (6,1) - Haha did you notice that you made an excessive 1/4 jump here? Pretty sure it's not intended.
* 01:02:102 (1) - Also this is not on a good spot because the stack with 01:02:477 (3) - brought that up-left.

BoatKrab
* 00:13:540 (1,2,3) - I think you could give players a bit of time to recover after the intense stream part. But you did in opposite way. 00:16:540 (1) - 00:22:540 (1) - These are same sounds but you did less intense here. You can do this there as well.
* 00:19:352 (7) - I do hear a sound on the sliderend, but it's too weak compared to the drums on this section 00:18:790 (3,4,5,6,7) - , so imo just one circle fits better here, especially because of one of a strong drum sound 00:19:258 - here is represented as a same sliderend. If you still want to represent all the 1/4 sounds, consider at least using the rhythm of the hardest diff, where all drums are represented as clicks, and only that one weaker sound is represented as a sliderend.
* 00:22:540 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - You made pretty jumpy patterns before, but idk why you suddenly started to fix all the ds. It felt like the map is suddenly missing emphasis... These are like a Hard diff tbh.

Shiroi Hiroshi
* 00:26:665 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Uhh the flow here is a bit awkward... The spacing is inconsistent, and 00:26:665 (1,3) - is misstacked, 00:27:790 (4,5,6,1) - this inconsistent distance/angle triggered me lol. I hope you rework this and get a better solution hmm...
* 00:33:227 - Missing this strong drumbeat is really a meh... actually what you follow is inconsistent in this part, because sometimes you missed vocals 00:26:852 - 00:29:852 - , sometimes missed strong drums 00:33:227 - , and sometimes missed piano sounds 00:33:602 - lol, So just try to be consistent. Starting from 00:31:540 - here, http://puu.sh/r6wvG/11f46dbcab.jpg keep this kind of beat, so that you have consistent beat in your whole part.

KittyAdventure
* 00:44:290 (3,4) - Just use two 1/2s? Because you didn't miss 00:44:477 - this kind of vocal anywhere else.

ezek
* 01:11:093 (2,3,4,5,6) - These will look tidy if 4 is on (187, 138) to make 2-4-6 have same spacing. Ofc 3 can be on flipped position.

CrystilonZ
* Man your part is overwhelming compared to the rest. You can slightly nerf some parts for better balance. like 01:15:593 (2,3,4,5,6) - can be like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6061747 and reduce the spacing of 01:18:781 (3,4,5,6) - etc.
* 01:24:593 (4,5) - A doublet was never introduced in this diff so this is kinda unexpected. The song doesn't really call for that kind of beat, so imo you can just go with 1/2 beats here.

[Crystilz's Fur-ious]
* 00:10:352 - imo this should be consistent with 00:08:852 (5) - but you would like to give difference with the 00:10:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , so how about just deleting 00:08:852 (5) - instead?
* 00:33:227 (2,1) - Not properly stacked
* 00:49:165 (4,1,2,3,4) - Questionable readability. You see that 4-1 is a 1/4 gap that is used many times until now, but 2-3 also looks the same, isn't it? While it is actually a 1/2 beat. Also 1-2 and 3-4 is differently snapped so this can be even harder to read. So idk, I guess you can give some spacing difference between them? Even a small adjusting the spacing like 00:50:946 (2,3) - would make it a lot easier to read.
* 00:53:102 - You have used even very small 1/4 sounds but ignored this entirely?
* 01:02:852 (2) - 1/8(it's actually less than that you know) transition is gimmicky, unexpected and easy to make 100s on. You didn't even mute it lol. Please, just use a circle. 01:08:843 (10) - Same here.
If this was not enough explanation, I'll just tell you that if this was on BN test, it's 100% something that we should point out lol
* 01:12:031 (1,2,3,4) - This is also pretty gimmicky, because a 1/4 transition is played by alternating the fingers, so even though 2 is on a red tick, they start streaming it with secondary finger - and ends it with secondary finger again. Probably doesn't matter much for alternators, but still this is a rare pattern people usually don't want.

Also I forgot to check generals so here we go. (Maybe it doesn't matter because I'm not iconing this? lol)
[General]

Inconsistent values

Video:
Shiroitty's Easy: thisisavideo.avi
ezek's Normal: thisisavideo.avi
Crystezek's Advanced: thisisavideo.avi
Boatocket's Hard: thisisavideo.avi
Furiends' Light Insane: thisisavideo.avi
Crystilz's Fur-ious: thisisavideo.avi
Derrick's 4K Sunlight:

oh maybe mania doesn't use video? then it's fine.
* Found unused .wav files:
- normal-hitfinish3.wav

I'll check hitsounds after getting all mod replies, since some things can be changed while fixing these.

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2016-09-10T18:38:58+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[ezek's Normal]
* 00:10:352 (6) - This note is weird because you never represented any of 1/2 vocals before so this is a bit of sudden. Also 00:07:540 (1,2,3,4,5) - these were all following the strong 1/1 drums (and not 1/2 vocals between them) so that note rather seems to be out of rhythm instead of representing the vocal properly. I just wanted to emphasize the vocals before the spinner, but whatever, everyone complains about my note so now I feel forced to remove it uwu
* 00:10:540 (1) - This can be extended to 00:12:790 - where more sounds begin. Ignoring an entire measure to spin for one measure is super boring for a Normal diff, especially when there are loud sounds are going on. oki doki~
* 00:41:852 - is stronger than 00:38:852 - so idk why you did the opposite Added circle at 00:41:852 -
* 00:53:852 (4) - Again I really not recommend this because 00:52:540 (3) - this entire slider is already far from representing the vocals, ignoring both 00:52:915 - 00:53:290 - . So this is really a sudden transition to instruments to vocals, even with a complicated rhythm choice. oki, removed~
* 01:09:031 (1,2) - This rhythm is a bit weird because 01:09:406 - 01:10:906 - are stronger than reverse arrows. So when you don't have notes on those white ticks it makes less sense to have notes on the red ticks instead. The vocals are perfectly on the white ticks as well, so imo this is representing very weak sounds instead of what is major in this section. I remapped the whole pattern so it doesn't ignore important stuff~
* 01:29:749 (1) - There's another vocal on 01:29:843 - so starting it there makes more sense oki

Doyak wrote:
[Furiends' Light Insane]

ezek
* 01:11:093 (2,3,4,5,6) - These will look tidy if 4 is on (187, 138) to make 2-4-6 have same spacing. Ofc 3 can be on flipped position. oki~

Summary: Everything was applied!
Thanks for the mod! ^^

Normal

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Light Insane (Just the two notes I fixed)

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187,138,71468,1,2,1:2:0:0:

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-09-10T19:15:33+00:00

everything fixed from my parts except this 00:10:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to be frank, I really like the motion this pattern gives and I don't really think it would become such as a problem to players to read it accordingly. While I do admit the spacing might be senseless, it does have a purpose to allow players recognize the different transition the mapset could present while clicking the notes. But if it really flows weird fur you, I'll think of other flow I guess. /u\

RING RING

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Version:Furiends' Light Insane
Source:家有大貓
Tags:Nekojishi jiā yǒu dà māo jia you da mao mau Nviek5 クエン酸P 晴空和音 Triodust 空氣載體 furry ezek HappyRocket88 BoatKrab KittyAdventure Shiroi Hiroshi Shiroitty Boatocket gokugohan12468 collab collaboration 鸚鵡 ajeemaniz exusagi Nwolf Furiends Crystezek [Crz]Derrick
BeatmapID:1061825
BeatmapSetID:495866

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8.2
SliderMultiplier:1.56
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
Video,-40,"thisisavideo.avi"
0,0,"thisisabg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-11T04:56:16+00:00

Doyak wrote:
@CrystilonZ: Then could you at least move the note to around center? Moving that faraway right after a spinner is stressing. You know, that Hard's 1/4 sliders actually requires very easy action, and almost same as just 1/1 clicks. And I don't know if ezek will fix the Normal diff, but it has 4 beat rest atm. So this is rather a big gap. That is easy? wtf why I always get a sliderbreak from those patterns lol. Ok, shortened the spinner

[Furiends' Light Insane]
* Tbh this is not a 'light' insane, just rename this to Insane lol. The hardest diff isn't using the name of Insane anyway. HUEHUEUHE ok fine, renaming this to Insane
* Also because of this is not a 'light' insane, use higher OD maybe xD 6.5?

CrystilonZ
* Man your part is overwhelming compared to the rest. You can slightly nerf some parts for better balance. like 01:15:593 (2,3,4,5,6) - can be like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6061747 and reduce the spacing of 01:18:781 (3,4,5,6) - etc. nerfed 01:15:593 (2,3,4,5,6) - cuz it sounds a bit too much to me too lol. but I'm keeping 01:18:781 (3,4,5,6) -. I know that square jump is really hard but the vocals is freakin' strong too.
* 01:24:593 (4,5) - A doublet was never introduced in this diff so this is kinda unexpected. The song doesn't really call for that kind of beat, so imo you can just go with 1/2 beats here. won't that be weird? like skipping the stronger sound at the blue tick and let the weaker sound clickable? the sound at 01:24:687 - is much more audible than the sound on the white tick imo. Besides, 01:24:593 (4) - is following that similar sound too.

[Crystilz's Fur-ious]
* 00:10:352 - imo this should be consistent with 00:08:852 (5) - but you would like to give difference with the 00:10:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , so how about just deleting 00:08:852 (5) - instead? I explained this before but oh well. For further clarification, I'm keeping this because:
(a)1/1 for 2 whole rooms is kinda boring. This note give it some variation it needs.
(b)the vocal at 00:08:852 (5) - is strong and is further backed by the piano.
(c)stacking that whole 8 notes is downright weird lol
* 00:33:227 (2,1) - Not properly stacked RIP
* 00:49:165 (4,1,2,3,4) - Questionable readability. You see that 4-1 is a 1/4 gap that is used many times until now, but 2-3 also looks the same, isn't it? While it is actually a 1/2 beat. Also 1-2 and 3-4 is differently snapped so this can be even harder to read. So idk, I guess you can give some spacing difference between them? Even a small adjusting the spacing like 00:50:946 (2,3) - would make it a lot easier to read. I'm not sure i did it right or not lol but fixed.
* 00:53:102 - You have used even very small 1/4 sounds but ignored this entirely? This part is composed like this: I will only follow the vocals OR the instruments but not both. 00:50:852 (1,2,3,4,5) - is following the instruments. 00:52:540 (1,2,3) - the vocals and shift back to instrument at 00:54:040 (1) -. This is to make this part less dense for difficulty curve reasons. This is also done to emphasize the vocal.
* 01:02:852 (2) - 1/8(it's actually less than that you know) transition is gimmicky, unexpected and easy to make 100s on. You didn't even mute it lol. Please, just use a circle. 01:08:843 (10) - Same here. changing 01:08:843 (10) - cuz it's the only 1/8 left in the kiais lol though it really fits with the vocal there. changing to 1/4 instead to conserve the dragging sound + to be consistent with 01:20:843 (9) - but still, i'm keeping 01:02:852 (2) - . It really fits and emphasizes the vocal and the drum really well imo. I can't tell you why exactly though XDD, but it's something like the vocal starts at 01:02:665 (1) - and then kinda connect to the vocal at 01:03:031 (1) - . The drum also does likewise. This part being gimmicky works pretty fine imo, from that jump stream, flow reverse and stuff. This also plays fine from testplays I got \o/ ps. It's silenced lol. There are a lot of sliderends silenced. I use silent hitnormal sound; that's why you can't see any greenlines silencing them XD
If this was not enough explanation, I'll just tell you that if this was on BN test, it's 100% something that we should point out lol
* 01:12:031 (1,2,3,4) - This is also pretty gimmicky, because a 1/4 transition is played by alternating the fingers, so even though 2 is on a red tick, they start streaming it with secondary finger - and ends it with secondary finger again. Probably doesn't matter much for alternators, but still this is a rare pattern people usually don't want. I can lengthen the slider to 1/1, but i'm not sure. I have not used 1/1 slider once in the kiais, and it's a bit weird imo. I don't even know how that alternating fingers stuff works lol.

Also I forgot to check generals so here we go. (Maybe it doesn't matter because I'm not iconing this? lol)
[General]
Inconsistent values
Video:
Shiroitty's Easy: thisisavideo.avi
ezek's Normal: thisisavideo.avi
Crystezek's Advanced: thisisavideo.avi
Boatocket's Hard: thisisavideo.avi
Furiends' Light Insane: thisisavideo.avi
Crystilz's Fur-ious: thisisavideo.avi
Derrick's 4K Sunlight:
oh maybe mania doesn't use video? then it's fine.
* Found unused .wav files:
- normal-hitfinish3.wav gowerghno;3wngbpiwe4ng9w4nvp[0gsde

I'll check hitsounds after getting all mod replies, since some things can be changed while fixing these.

Thanks a lot Doyak \:D/
now waiting for kitty and boat

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-11T05:16:44+00:00

CrystilonZ wrote:
Doyak wrote:
CrystilonZ
* 01:24:593 (4,5) - A doublet was never introduced in this diff so this is kinda unexpected. The song doesn't really call for that kind of beat, so imo you can just go with 1/2 beats here. won't that be weird? like skipping the stronger sound at the blue tick and let the weaker sound clickable? the sound at 01:24:687 - is much more audible than the sound on the white tick imo. Besides, 01:24:593 (4) - is following that similar sound too. But that's contradictory because what you did on your hardest diff is click: red tick&white tick, sliderend: blue tick. Also I still don't get what made you hear the blue tick being louder, because I can barely hear any sound there 0.0 while the white tick is pretty clear.

[Crystilz's Fur-ious]
* 01:02:852 (2) - 1/8(it's actually less than that you know) transition is gimmicky, unexpected and easy to make 100s on. You didn't even mute it lol. Please, just use a circle. 01:08:843 (10) - Same here. changing 01:08:843 (10) - cuz it's the only 1/8 left in the kiais lol though it really fits with the vocal there. changing to 1/4 instead to conserve the dragging sound + to be consistent with 01:20:843 (9) - but still, i'm keeping 01:02:852 (2) - . It really fits and emphasizes the vocal and the drum really well imo. I can't tell you why exactly though XDD, but it's something like the vocal starts at 01:02:665 (1) - and then kinda connect to the vocal at 01:03:031 (1) - . The drum also does likewise. This part being gimmicky works pretty fine imo, from that jump stream, flow reverse and stuff. This also plays fine from testplays I got \o/ ps. It's silenced lol. There are a lot of sliderends silenced. I use silent hitnormal sound; that's why you can't see any greenlines silencing them XD Oh that's a brilliant idea lol, but how about just using a 1/4... like you don't need to use a 1/8 snap because it's hard to tell anyways even without a hitsound feedback, and only gives more time to not make a 100 on it. Considering that another uninherited timing point is there, it's even like a 1/16 gap now.
If this was not enough explanation, I'll just tell you that if this was on BN test, it's 100% something that we should point out lol
* 01:12:031 (1,2,3,4) - This is also pretty gimmicky, because a 1/4 transition is played by alternating the fingers, so even though 2 is on a red tick, they start streaming it with secondary finger - and ends it with secondary finger again. Probably doesn't matter much for alternators, but still this is a rare pattern people usually don't want. I can lengthen the slider to 1/1, but i'm not sure. I have not used 1/1 slider once in the kiais, and it's a bit weird imo. I don't even know how that alternating fingers stuff works lol. I'm fine with reducing 01:12:031 (1) - to 1/2 then, or abandoning a triplet there and just use 1/2s.
Thanks a lot Doyak \:D/
now waiting for kitty and boat

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-11T05:33:55+00:00

01:24:593 (4,5) - o shit that's the dragging sound from the red tick lol kill me. ok fixed.
01:02:852 (2) - I totally forgot about the red line there XDD 1/4 feels like 1/8 already lol
01:12:031 (1,2,3,4) - reducing it to 1/2 is even more weird QAQ since I always use 3/4 on vocals like this. I tried 1/1 out and it's also weird orz uwu. Reducing the triplet to 1/2 is not a good option either orz

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-11T13:08:06+00:00

And boat asked me to fix his parts. well, here goes

Doyak wrote:
[Boatocket's Hard]
I used the update code, so don't worry.
* 00:08:102 (2) - There's no sound worth clickable, I'd just stick to 1/1s here, if there's no vocal.
* 00:51:040 (5) - Idk why this is a 3/2 slider, the vocal is on 00:51:790 - and the strong drum is on 00:51:415 - . Considering how 00:52:540 (1,2,3) - strictly follow the vocals only, this vocal should be represented as well imo.
* Also consider putting a note 00:53:102 - here as you represented 00:50:102 - and 00:56:102 - 00:59:102 - too. I don't really know since i'm not the mapper lol, but judging from 00:53:852 (3) - , maybe he is following the vocals here.
* 00:53:852 (3) - The vocal ends on around 00:54:790 - , so extending further makes it weird.
* 01:30:031 (1) - The start of the spinner doesn't really work as a downbeat anymore, and it's only weird because the vocal is on 01:29:843 - and not there. Starting it on either 01:29:656 - or 01:29:843 - would work better imo.
* Also I'd put 00:13:540 (1,2) - 00:15:040 (4,5) - 00:22:540 (1,2) - 01:04:156 (3,1) - 01:05:656 (4,1) - more correctly lol
Tl;dr fixed all
Sorry for a short post again, but I have an appointment so I'll continue other diffs later again...

Doyak wrote:
* 01:01:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Well I don't really agree with this being on a Hard diff. This is not only because of a 7-note-stream, but combined with the following 1/4 sliders, it's really intense. Also there's something that doesn't make much sense with the music too. 01:02:383 (8) - Players have to click this on a blue tick, which is really not expected for a Hard diff. And there's no even a strong sound there, the strongest drum is 01:02:477 - here. Also 01:02:571 - here doesn't have a drum. So doing http://puu.sh/r68Si/801baedcbd.jpg this will make this pattern more fit a Hard diff, and also follow the music better.

~~I proposed him something similar to this since the beginning lol and he rejected it for some reason. I will keep it for now, but I, like doyak, would like some clear and proper explanation for this.~~ AAAAAAHH screw this. fixed. since you say change anything i want anyway lol

[]

Doyak wrote:
[Furiends' Light Insane]

BoatKrab
* 00:13:540 (1,2,3) - I think you could give players a bit of time to recover after the intense stream part. But you did in opposite way. 00:16:540 (1) - 00:22:540 (1) - These are same sounds but you did less intense here. You can do this there as well.
* 00:19:352 (7) - I do hear a sound on the sliderend, but it's too weak compared to the drums on this section 00:18:790 (3,4,5,6,7) - , so imo just one circle fits better here, especially because of one of a strong drum sound 00:19:258 - here is represented as a same sliderend. If you still want to represent all the 1/4 sounds, consider at least using the rhythm of the hardest diff, where all drums are represented as clicks, and only that one weaker sound is represented as a sliderend.
* 00:22:540 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - You made pretty jumpy patterns before, but idk why you suddenly started to fix all the ds. It felt like the map is suddenly missing emphasis... These are like a Hard diff tbh. reworked the whole part lol.

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-12T09:51:12+00:00

btw the timestamp on the map description is wrong, seems you have changed the mp3 once before?

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-12T11:36:32+00:00

Yes i did xd
thanks for the reminder >w<

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2016-09-12T14:19:06+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Alright this song took my attention so I came here now.

[Shiroitty's Easy]
* I think this diff can be a bit more polished. Like it would be great if things like 00:08:290 (2,3,4) - are more balanced. It's my style since it's following distance snap!
* 00:12:040 (2) - There's a strong drum on the sliderend, and 00:10:540 (1) - 00:12:040 (2) - are not same drums so it can be divided into a 2/1 slider and a circle. I agree, but it's mean make star rating is higher since CrystilonZ want our to make easy diff with under 1.49 (Sorry )
* 00:13:540 (1) - This is good. However, you didn't use these long sliders on any of those similar sounds 00:16:540 (1,2) - 00:19:540 (1,2,3) - 00:22:540 (1,2) - and mostly filled the 1/1 beats, so this rather feels a bit empty. So consider filling 1/1s out here as well or change others into long sliders too. I think Shiroi did a great work, no reason for to change since it's not really hard for the newbie playing
* 00:22:540 (1,2,3) - This can look nicer if you rotate 3 to make it more balanced. Fixed a bit!
* 00:20:290 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - You see the similarity or all these? They are all 1/1 sliders! Players will play the exact same rhythm for 8 seconds, which could be very boring. You can try to represent something specific in the song, or just simply make variations and provide fun rhythms and patterns. I don't think it's boring, it's normal for newbie mapper!
* 00:28:540 (1,2,3,4) - Compared to the previous 1/1 chains, this suddenly became empty for no reason. It's just the same sonud as 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - , so there's no reason to reduce the density. Or this can be done in the opposite way, by reducing the density of 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - . You're never change my style, i'm following background & vocal sound!
* 00:33:040 (3) - I'd really cut this to 1/1s and represent the vocal on the middle. I'm ignore a vocal sound from 00:32:852 -
* 00:45:790 (4) - I wouldn't put the downbeat on a sliderend, when there's even a strong vocal sound. I'd rather use the reverse slider on 00:45:040 - But it's making the flow is broken and i think Shiroi following old rhythm style :/
* 00:49:540 (1) - Use a 3/2 slider for 00:50:102 - this sound, just as you did on 00:55:540 (1) - It's distrub when i listening a background sound in every blue tick, so no!
* 00:55:540 (1) - and this blanket is off. I don't think it's off!
* 00:58:540 (1) - This spinner doesn't seem to be following any specific sounds, because the vocal 'interrupts' in the middle of the spinner, and this is basically just same as the previous part, so I think it's rather inconsistent to suddenly put a spinner here. So maybe try to just fill with notes. Following a background sound!
* 01:07:531 (3) - If you were trying to be consistent with 01:04:531 (3) - , I'd say they're just different sounds. There is an obvious vocal that is hard to ignore on 01:07:906 - unlike 01:04:906 - . Same for 01:19:531 (3) - , and 01:10:531 (3) - can be adjusted a bit so that the turning point is exactly on 01:10:906 - I think Shiroi following some from my style, "following background and vocal sound"
* 01:12:781 (2,3,4) - Could you make this more balanced? It really looks flawed for me D:
* 01:15:031 (1,2) - Also blanket. It's blanket, sorry!
* 01:25:531 (3) - As 01:24:031 (1) - represented the loooong vocal, this should be different and represent 01:25:906 - this vocal sound. I think it's a end of the song (before a really end), but still it's fine for easy diff!

In Light Insane, Fixed all for Shiroi part! but i'm don't agree with this thing from your mod!

00:44:290 (3,4) - Just use two 1/2s? Because you didn't miss 00:44:477 - this kind of vocal anywhere else. I agree with you but i don't want make it harder more! Sorry

No comment = Fixed
Thank you for mod!

Shiroitty's Easy

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Shiroi ask me to fix his part in Easy and Collab Insane diff since he is busy in irl ;__;

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CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-13T13:23:14+00:00

updated~
i'm fine with any SR rly :/ i don't care much about it.

Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2016-09-13T14:33:00+00:00

I think it's better if easy diff is keep 1.46 SR!

CrystilonZ

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Joined January 2013

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-13T14:46:55+00:00

lol i'm fine with anything~

Okay, I will clarify some of Doyak's points.

00:55:540 (1,2) - This is really off lol
01:15:031 (1,2) - Also this thing here
00:19:540 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this really long chain of 1/1 here. It's good for newbies, but you might also add something here. Try merging some sliders and circles into longer sliders. This is to make some variations and also reduce the *density*. That is, the number of time the player has to click~ Following the background sounds is not wrong, but because this is an Easy diff, skipping some weak sounds or follow longer sounds to reduce the density may be a good thing~. You are not newbie mapper btw lol, and I don't think that explanation works :/
00:45:790 (4) - I agree with Doyak here. Here's an idea: try this RHYTHM instead~ This way, you can keep all strong sounds on the big white line clickable, and also make 00:45:415 (4) - fit with the connected vocals there~
01:07:531 (3) - Yes, i know you're following both the background instruments and the vocals. But in Easy, this is pretty hard to do because you can't spam everything like I do on Insane lolol. Sometimes, you need to choose between that two~ My suggestion is something like this~. This way you can click the piano sound, and also the strong vocal+drum!~
01:19:531 (3) - ^

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-09-13T15:44:36+00:00

[Shiroitty's Easy]
* I think this diff can be a bit more polished. Like it would be great if things like 00:08:290 (2,3,4) - are more balanced. It's my style since it's following distance snap! I mean, distance snap is good. But you can do something greater than now. The current shape is like this:

But if you rotate and move them just for a bit, it can be more balanced, like this:

This looks more stable and polished, doesn't it?
* 00:12:040 (2) - There's a strong drum on the sliderend, and 00:10:540 (1) - 00:12:040 (2) - are not same drums so it can be divided into a 2/1 slider and a circle. I agree, but it's mean make star rating is higher since CrystilonZ want our to make easy diff with under 1.49 (Sorry

) Doing this won't increase star rating at all(maybe like 0.0001) because that part is already really easy, so it's not a difficulty spike. Just try it.
* 00:13:540 (1) - This is good. However, you didn't use these long sliders on any of those similar sounds 00:16:540 (1,2) - 00:19:540 (1,2,3) - 00:22:540 (1,2) - and mostly filled the 1/1 beats, so this rather feels a bit empty. So consider filling 1/1s out here as well or change others into long sliders too. I think Shiroi did a great work, no reason for to change since it's not really hard for the newbie playing "not hard for newbie to play" doesn't justify anything to your rejection. I'm talking about consistency and music-following things. It's not related to difficulty at all. You can still maintain a proper newbie's diff with this change.
* 00:20:290 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - You see the similarity or all these? They are all 1/1 sliders! Players will play the exact same rhythm for 8 seconds, which could be very boring. You can try to represent something specific in the song, or just simply make variations and provide fun rhythms and patterns. I don't think it's boring, it's normal for newbie mapper! Being a newbie mapper doesn't mean you don't need to improve anything. You know how to put rhythm diversity on your map and it'll make this map much better. If you don't feel this boring, then why not just fill everything out with 1/1 sliders? It'll still follow the basic drums and not gonna be boring, right?
* 00:28:540 (1,2,3,4) - Compared to the previous 1/1 chains, this suddenly became empty for no reason. It's just the same sonud as 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - , so there's no reason to reduce the density. Or this can be done in the opposite way, by reducing the density of 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - . You're never change my style, i'm following background & vocal sound! Again this is not about your mapping style. I wholeheartedly respect your mapping style. But because I respect you, I want to help your map improve further. I'm talking about consistency here again. Vocal and background, sounds good. But as I said, 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:28:540 (1,2,3,4) - has exactly same vocal&background beats so is there a reason to change the rhythm you used? If you say "it's for variation" then I can understand, but your current reason doesn't justify your choice being different for same sounds.
* 00:33:040 (3) - I'd really cut this to 1/1s and represent the vocal on the middle. I'm ignore a vocal sound from 00:32:852 - I know, an Easy diff has to skip a lot of sounds to simplify the rhythm. But how about 00:33:415 - this, does putting a note here makes the map any harder? It is an important white tick which has both significant vocal sound & drum sound. Let's assume that someone has skipped all downbeats on this song. Do you think you can still justify it by saying "I skipped some other drums too"?
* 00:45:790 (4) - I wouldn't put the downbeat on a sliderend, when there's even a strong vocal sound. I'd rather use the reverse slider on 00:45:040 - But it's making the flow is broken and i think Shiroi following old rhythm style :/ Idk what makes the flow broken. Ofc fixing only that 1 beat can make it a bit weird. But just try to adjust a few notes around and you can make it overall nice.
* 00:49:540 (1) - Use a 3/2 slider for 00:50:102 - this sound, just as you did on 00:55:540 (1) - It's distrub when i listening a background sound in every blue tick, so no! It's not on blue tick. It's on a red tick. Again I'm talking about consistency. If that makes you disturbed, why did you put a note on 00:56:102 - ?
* 00:55:540 (1) - and this blanket is off. I don't think it's off! It's totally off. Here's an easy way to check it.

If it was perfectly blanketed, the approach circle should follow the slider's wall very cleanly, but you can see it's getting off from the track as it goes down. It's really minor, I know.
* 00:58:540 (1) - This spinner doesn't seem to be following any specific sounds, because the vocal 'interrupts' in the middle of the spinner, and this is basically just same as the previous part, so I think it's rather inconsistent to suddenly put a spinner here. So maybe try to just fill with notes. Following a background sound! Then why only this one? also you have represented vocals until this spinner so ignoring the vocals inside the spinner is really weird.
* 01:07:531 (3) - If you were trying to be consistent with 01:04:531 (3) - , I'd say they're just different sounds. There is an obvious vocal that is hard to ignore on 01:07:906 - unlike 01:04:906 - . Same for 01:19:531 (3) - , and 01:10:531 (3) - can be adjusted a bit so that the turning point is exactly on 01:10:906 - I think Shiroi following some from my style, "following background and vocal sound" Yes, please follow the important vocal sounds, and don't ignore 01:07:906 - 01:19:906 -
* 01:15:031 (1,2) - Also blanket. It's blanket, sorry! I mean, it's reeeeeeeeally off D: You need a picture for this?

In Light Insane, Fixed all for Shiroi part! but i'm don't agree with this thing from your mod!

00:44:290 (3,4) - Just use two 1/2s? Because you didn't miss 00:44:477 - this kind of vocal anywhere else. I agree with you but i don't want make it harder more! Sorry Idk how two 1/2 sliders can be harder than a 1/1 slider + circle. It requires less click speed, and has same amount of notes. And this part is not a hard part at all, and agaaaaaaain it's for consistency with 00:38:477 - 00:41:477 - .

I know my mod had pointed out some preference/variation things, but still your reply made me feel that you're just bothered to fix things no matter how legit the suggestions are. Please provide some logical reasons that refute my points on the mod, not just your pure intention of the notes. Even if the note itself is fine, it can have some other issues regarding the music, consistency, and structure of your map, and I'm mostly pointing them out.

CrystilonZ

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CrystilonZ 2016-09-13T17:35:34+00:00

Ok let's do this again
Replying & Responding to mod in place of Kitty

Doyak wrote:
Alright this song took my attention so I came here now.

[Shiroitty's Easy]
* I think this diff can be a bit more polished. Like it would be great if things like 00:08:290 (2,3,4) - are more balanced. done~
* 00:12:040 (2) - There's a strong drum on the sliderend, and 00:10:540 (1) - 00:12:040 (2) - are not same drums so it can be divided into a 2/1 slider and a circle. I'm keeping this. I see this as the representation of the clap stream. 00:10:540 (1) - represents the 1/2 stuff and 00:12:040 (2) - represent the 1/4 stuff.
* 00:13:540 (1) - This is good. However, you didn't use these long sliders on any of those similar sounds 00:16:540 (1,2) - 00:19:540 (1,2,3) - 00:22:540 (1,2) - and mostly filled the 1/1 beats, so this rather feels a bit empty. So consider filling 1/1s out here as well or change others into long sliders too. shortened
* 00:22:540 (1,2,3) - This can look nicer if you rotate 3 to make it more balanced. http://puu.sh/r5wxy/f560c7cb1b.jpg done by kitty
* 00:20:290 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - You see the similarity or all these? They are all 1/1 sliders! Players will play the exact same rhythm for 8 seconds, which could be very boring. You can try to represent something specific in the song, or just simply make variations and provide fun rhythms and patterns. changed some~
* 00:28:540 (1,2,3,4) - Compared to the previous 1/1 chains, this suddenly became empty for no reason. It's just the same sonud as 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - , so there's no reason to reduce the density. Or this can be done in the opposite way, by reducing the density of 00:25:540 (1,2,3,4) - split 00:30:040 (3) -
* 00:33:040 (3) - I'd really cut this to 1/1s and represent the vocal on the middle. done!
* 00:45:790 (4) - I wouldn't put the downbeat on a sliderend, when there's even a strong vocal sound. I'd rather use the reverse slider on 00:45:040 - okidoki~
* 00:49:540 (1) - Use a 3/2 slider for 00:50:102 - this sound, just as you did on 00:55:540 (1) - sounds a bit weird lol but fixed anyway
* 00:55:540 (1) - and this blanket is off. rip
* 00:58:540 (1) - This spinner doesn't seem to be following any specific sounds, because the vocal 'interrupts' in the middle of the spinner, and this is basically just same as the previous part, so I think it's rather inconsistent to suddenly put a spinner here. So maybe try to just fill with notes. idk. this might be a good idea to emphasize the kiai's start. 4/1 spinner seems a bit too short for Easy
* 01:07:531 (3) - If you were trying to be consistent with 01:04:531 (3) - , I'd say they're just different sounds. There is an obvious vocal that is hard to ignore on 01:07:906 - unlike 01:04:906 - . Same for 01:19:531 (3) - , and 01:10:531 (3) - can be adjusted a bit so that the turning point is exactly on 01:10:906 - changed. Made the vocals clickable.
* 01:12:781 (2,3,4) - Could you make this more balanced? It really looks flawed for me D: fixed i guess?
* 01:15:031 (1,2) - Also blanket 2nd RIP
* 01:25:531 (3) - As 01:24:031 (1) - represented the loooong vocal, this should be different and represent 01:25:906 - this vocal sound. This *somehow* fits better lol. It's kinda like the vocal there is not very strong, comparing to the piano at the slider head here. This is also a nice idea to slow down the pace for the song's ending >w<

For Insane
00:44:290 (3,4) - Just use two 1/2s? Because you didn't miss 00:44:477 - this kind of vocal anywhere else. changed to three

This is why I should not map Easy lol. I just messed around with some notes and wola~! +0.1 SR XDDD

Hobbes2

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Hobbes2 2016-09-13T21:26:07+00:00

im bored so heres a thing

no kds since i already modded

this is pretty nazi so feel free to ignore a lot of it lol

[blankets (mostly)]

Shiroitty's Easy

00:48:790 (4,1) - blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6087737
00:55:540 (1,2) - blanket
01:10:906 (4,5) - blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6087744

ezek's Normal

00:26:290 (2,4) - Not a blanket but these overlap in game and it's pretty noticeable
00:48:790 (5,1) - this is like as nazi as you can get, but you could technically improve the blanket here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6087780

advance

00:34:540 (1,3) - technically improvable blanket
00:48:415 (2) - x:28 y:161 complements the other slider more nicely, but then you have to move the following slider a bit.
01:06:781 (3,4,1) - If you make the gap between 3 and 4 and the gap between 3 and 1 the same, this looks MUCH neater.
01:17:093 (2,1) - blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6087835
01:21:781 (3,2) - Perfectly stack these; they are blanketed by the same object so it's vital that they're in the same positions
01:21:781 (3,1) - On that note, fix blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6087842

hard

00:06:415 (1,2) - blanket
00:08:665 (3,4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6087849
00:17:665 (3,5) - blanket
01:00:040 (5,6) - definitely blanket (the tap is thinner on the top then in the middle and bottom)
01:01:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like for a hard, the stream itself should be a max of 5 clickable objects, 7 feels like too much
01:23:843 (1) - This is the only time in the kiai that you ignore the downbeat, sure you want to do that?

pun's Insane

00:36:977 (1) - why NC here?
00:38:665 (4,1) - blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6087905
00:47:665 (4,1) - blanket
00:51:040 (1) - I guess the first half of this shape is trying to blanket 1 00:50:102 (3) - but the placement of the red node kinda breaks the blanket
01:02:008 (6,1) - meh not a fan of stream-jumps in this star rating, too much imo
01:10:156 (4,1) - blanket

Furious

looks gud

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