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Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2016-08-15T02:48:44+00:00

nyanmi-1828 wrote:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27147617

一応こっちが本家なので貼っておきますね　youtubeの方は無断転載なので＾＾；

ありがとーございまーす
youtubeも一応残しますわ(こっちなら誰でも見れる)

itihasa

8 posts

Joined June 2014

itihasa 2016-08-19T16:14:04+00:00

02:21:824 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why did you add these jumps??
edit: if you delete them, SR drops from 6.12 to 5.62... I really liked the map and 2 stream sections but these jumps seem to be there just to artifically rise SR

Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2016-08-19T16:40:24+00:00

itihasa wrote:
02:21:824 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why did you add these jumps??
edit: if you delete them, SR drops from 6.12 to 5.62... I really liked the map and 2 stream sections but these jumps seem to be there just to artifically rise SR

most intense part of the music. This is what I felt when I hear to this song like 500 or even thousand times

itihasa

8 posts

Joined June 2014

itihasa 2016-08-19T16:56:14+00:00

sure, this part is intense, but are the kneesocks-like jumps the only way to express it? I won't really offer a solution since i suck at mapping/modding but i enjoyed the map much more before this set of jumps was added. I'm just sad that this has turned from a really cool map to another pp jumpfest (if it gets ranked)

Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2016-08-19T17:21:57+00:00

ok then

Last edited by Akitoshi 2016-08-21T05:39:02+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Lucrisiah

26 posts

Joined April 2014

Lucrisiah 2016-08-20T21:30:35+00:00

I used to respect this map, and the mapper. What is this new meta " Omg im running out of ideas so better f*ck the rythm and add unnecessary jumps in the end of the songs like everyone does " . Seriously ? Why ? Just why ? It doesn't even fit the song. Can't you mappers just map songs only to enjoy nowadays not for pp heavy and w/o unnecessary jumps ? 10/9 maps these days has ridicilous jumps in the end which doesn't make ANY SENSE.

Mappers are the people who make players enjoy this game, but you guys mapping for pp not for someone to enjoy the song. So it will always go down.

#ReadyForTheSalt

Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2016-08-21T04:04:38+00:00

Good job guys! Keep sending salts!

I still don't really get it why 1-2 jumps are "pp" even kneesocks and ame no asphalt. I played them with much fun.
I removed that jumps, but still let me use large jumps on that section.

-NanoRIPE-

2,041 posts

Joined October 2013

-NanoRIPE- 2016-08-21T10:59:23+00:00

ok
my third mod for this awesome map lol
i'm here just want to give some suggestion and little push (before BN check this map)

[Hard]
00:20:364 (7) - i think this must be NC because the word "Moo" then "konai de yo",like at 00:16:797 (1)
00:46:148 (4,1) - too close xd
00:59:121 (4) - maybe move little bit to right? for better flow
01:08:202 (3,4,1) - this pattern looks are forced about the placement,maybe make it little bit natural flow like this
01:31:554 (4) - i think this slider should 1/2 slider because it looks awkward imo (listen carefully the vocal) i suggest to use 1/2 reverse slider here

[Insane]
00:34:797 (3,4) - maybe cut this slider into 2 circles? because the word "SO NO E BAA" pronunciation seems separate huehue
00:45:337 (1) - maybe make this slider more attractive?
01:35:283 (2,3,4) - this pattern looks not good for flow in insane diff (too easier and not attractive imo) maybe make the pattern like this
02:44:202 (3) - move to (128,252) for better flow?
02:49:391 (3,1) - too close
02:51:175 (1) - this slider looks too random for me

[Linada]
01:10:959 (1,2,1) - <3
01:28:148 (1,2,3,4) - i'm not sure about this pattern.... (idk how to explain it) but maybe you can swap the placement between circle (2) and (4) for make zig zaq pattern here (or something like that)
01:38:202 (1) - unnecessary nc
02:31:716 (1) - maybe move to (260,264) because the placement looks hard to read it and too tight imo
02:51:175 (3,1,2) - maybe a slider here? same as 02:49:878 (3) to emphatize the "teneeeett teneeeettt" soiund xd

[Extra]
00:08:851 (3) - try move it to (31,241) for better pattern?
00:16:310 (3) - i think this slider should 1/2 slider and a circle imo
00:39:581 (3,1) - imperfect stack
00:49:878 (5) - ctrl h for better flow
00:50:364 (8,9) - why stack? it looks awkward if you make it stack imo
00:51:986 (1,2) - it would be great if you make the pattern like [url=prntscr.com/c8g67h]here[/url]
01:13:067 (2) - ctrl j <3
01:14:040 (1) - move little bit to right for avoid the overlap? (since you rarely to make overlap like this) and if you afraid abou this 01:14:527 (3) circle you can try stacked it with slider (1) hehehe
02:49:067 (2) - try to ctrl j it

hmmm tbh there are some hitsound not suits with the song (especially the finish)
you can notice it if you use "Default" skin ~

[Sky Arrow]
omg LAG!!!!!!

00:34:797 (3) - same as insane
00:46:148 (3) - it would be great if you make this slider same as previous slider
02:11:121 (1) - can you make this slider more attractive?
02:35:121 (5,7) - too close imo

ok thats it from me ~
GL ~

edit : OMG 102+sp xd

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

_DT3 2016-08-21T11:11:31+00:00

Lucrisiah wrote:
I used to respect this map, and the mapper. What is this new meta " Omg im running out of ideas so better f*ck the rythm and add unnecessary jumps in the end of the songs like everyone does " . Seriously ? Why ? Just why ? It doesn't even fit the song. Can't you mappers just map songs only to enjoy nowadays not for pp heavy and w/o unnecessary jumps ? 10/9 maps these days has ridicilous jumps in the end which doesn't make ANY SENSE.

Mappers are the people who make players enjoy this game, but you guys mapping for pp not for someone to enjoy the song. So it will always go down.

#ReadyForTheSalt

Eh, not trying to be salty or anything like that: Akitoshi is not Monstrata. He is not all like, just put huge jumps there because of pp and not let the user enjoy the song. How would you even know that he is a pp mapper or intends to be, he mainly makes easier diffs anyway. And tbh, if it doesn't fit the music, I'd also complain about it, but I don't. And ok, they are a bit big, but it's not like you should be all like: You tried to pp map this, that's why I don't like you anymore

Just saying, I am not doing this just because Aki is my senpai, there is a reason why he is one of my favorite mappers

Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2016-08-21T13:00:18+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
ok
my third mod for this awesome map lol tfw no third or even second kds for you xdddddddd
i'm here just want to give some suggestion and little push (before BN check this map)

[Hard]
00:20:364 (7) - i think this must be NC because the word "Moo" then "konai de yo",like at 00:16:797 (1) ya i thought there's a cow when I read moo
00:46:148 (4,1) - too close xd re-mapped
00:59:121 (4) - maybe move little bit to right? for better flow ya
01:08:202 (3,4,1) - this pattern looks are forced about the placement,maybe make it little bit natural flow like this nice link lol i fixed this on my own way
01:31:554 (4) - i think this slider should 1/2 slider because it looks awkward imo (listen carefully the vocal) i suggest to use 1/2 reverse slider here not a reverse but fixed

[Insane]
00:34:797 (3,4) - maybe cut this slider into 2 circles? because the word "SO NO E BAA" it's 空へ舞う / Sora e mau lolpronunciation seems separate huehue I want to hold for the kiai, making slider here gives more emphasis for the kiai
00:45:337 (1) - maybe make this slider more attractive? haters gonna hate kek
01:35:283 (2,3,4) - this pattern looks not good for flow in insane diff (too easier and not attractive imo) maybe make the pattern like this for the changing vocals pitch, this was on 01:30:094 (2,3) - and 01:33:337 (1,2) - as well.
02:44:202 (3) - move to (128,252) for better flow? replaced it on somewhere lo
02:49:391 (3,1) - too close not rly
02:51:175 (1) - this slider looks too random for me ok then

[Sky Arrow]
omg LAG!!!!!! wwwww

00:34:797 (3) - same as insane same here too
00:46:148 (3) - it would be great if you make this slider same as previous slider Asymmetry best tragic luv
02:11:121 (1) - can you make this slider more attractive? r00d
02:35:121 (5,7) - too close imo Ok

ok thats it from me ~
GL ~

edit : OMG 102+sp xd when you're too shy to ask bn keks

Thanks for the 3rd mod xd

@_DT3 thanks for understanding but yeah I changed it now already, and maybe that was too big for some players.

Last edited by Akitoshi 2016-08-21T15:55:22+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Linada

994 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2016-08-21T13:17:36+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
ok

[Linada]
01:10:959 (1,2,1) - <3
01:28:148 (1,2,3,4) - i'm not sure about this pattern.... (idk how to explain it) but maybe you can swap the placement between circle (2) and (4) for make zig zaq pattern here (or something like that)
01:38:202 (1) - unnecessary nc
02:31:716 (1) - maybe move to (260,264) because the placement looks hard to read it and too tight imo
02:51:175 (3,1,2) - maybe a slider here? same as 02:49:878 (3) to emphatize the "teneeeett teneeeettt" soiund xd i think the way i did is pretty nice for an ending, even if it can be "inconsistent"

Thanks :3

still alive

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256,192,151797,12,6,156905,0:0:0:0:
404,300,157229,5,0,0:0:0:0:
284,304,157391,1,8,0:0:0:0:
284,304,157554,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,140,157716,5,2,0:0:0:0:
284,212,157878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,228,158040,1,8,0:0:0:0:
283,107,158202,6,0,P|207:49|116:76,1,198.000006042481,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,220,158689,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,220,158851,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,296,159013,5,2,0:0:0:0:
300,328,159175,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,212,159337,1,8,0:0:0:0:
326,175,159500,6,0,P|364:102|282:109,1,198.000006042481,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,276,159986,1,8,0:0:0:0:
308,276,160148,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,100,160310,5,2,0:0:0:0:
212,244,160473,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,132,160635,1,8,0:0:0:0:
199,334,160797,6,0,P|125:277|139:184,1,198.000006042481
231,90,161283,1,8,0:0:0:0:
231,90,161446,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,164,161608,1,2,0:0:0:0:
276,112,161770,6,0,L|232:91,1,49.5000015106202,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,144,161932,2,0,L|437:123,1,49.5000015106202,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
367,312,162094,6,0,P|322:228|228:224,1,198.000006042481,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,336,162581,1,8,0:0:0:0:
164,336,162743,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,304,162905,5,2,0:0:0:0:
64,236,163067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,184,163229,1,8,0:0:0:0:
73,54,163391,6,0,P|59:109|144:70,1,198.000006042481
24,204,163878,1,8,0:0:0:0:
162,66,164040,1,0,0:0:0:0:
242,211,164202,5,2,0:0:0:0:
88,136,164365,1,0,0:0:0:0:
99,305,164527,1,8,0:0:0:0:
215,133,164689,6,0,P|268:120|212:192,1,198.000006042481
59,205,165175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
239,241,165337,1,0,0:0:0:0:
88,336,165500,5,2,0:0:0:0:
236,328,165662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,172,165824,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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339,76,166473,2,0,P|354:123|356:172,1,99.0000030212403,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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304,176,167932,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,56,168094,5,2,0:0:0:0:
300,56,168256,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,176,168418,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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216,132,169554,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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440,176,170851,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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300,302,172473,6,0,L|107:239,1,202.500007724762,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-08-21T14:21:02+00:00

updated linada's diff
according to opinions from more than 5 mapper and player i changed back to 1-----2 jump form
salt people gonna salt ok

Last edited by Akitoshi 2016-08-21T14:23:06+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

allein

Beatmap Nominator

821 posts

Joined March 2015

allein 2016-08-21T14:22:26+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
updated linada's diff
according to opinions from various mapper and player i changed back to 1-----2 jump form
salt people gonna salt ok

LOL

Dank Memes

19 posts

Joined September 2013

Dank Memes 2016-08-22T15:58:53+00:00

Lucrisiah wrote:
I used to respect this map, and the mapper. What is this new meta " Omg im running out of ideas so better f*ck the rythm and add unnecessary jumps in the end of the songs like everyone does " . Seriously ? Why ? Just why ? It doesn't even fit the song. Can't you mappers just map songs only to enjoy nowadays not for pp heavy and w/o unnecessary jumps ? 10/9 maps these days has ridicilous jumps in the end which doesn't make ANY SENSE.

Mappers are the people who make players enjoy this game, but you guys mapping for pp not for someone to enjoy the song. So it will always go down.

#ReadyForTheSalt

Although this is a good song and map, bringing in people who play for pp and play for fun
If jumps don't make sense for you, don't play them

The map plays just fine, why do you think it's wrong to increase the distance on jumps as the song gets more intense?

Lucrisiah wrote:
Mappers are the people who make players enjoy this game

Are you implying I can't enjoy the game by playing for PP?

Bunnrei

1,044 posts

Joined May 2011

Bunnrei 2016-08-25T06:00:56+00:00

Lucrisiah wrote:
Can't you mappers just map songs only to enjoy nowadays not for pp heavy and w/o unnecessary jumps?

can u just map like how u want it

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-08-31T10:38:12+00:00

hello!

[General]
can you convert your bg to .jpg? saves about 0.9mb of space

[Easy]
don't need widescreen support here
00:04:473 (3) - this feels quite awkward to start here because the vocal on 00:04:473 - is only an entrance to the emphasised vocal on 00:04:635 . for cases like this, you have to sacrifice mapping to vocals for instruments. a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qURtW/ecd5a10bd2.jpg could work if u can't think of anything else
00:08:527 (3,1) - distance
00:14:202 (1) - you indicated earlier with this slider 00:12:905 (3) - that you were fine with missing vocals yet the slider on 00:14:202 (1) - uses vocals instead and skips the drum which feels quite awkward imo. rather if you made 00:14:202 (1,2) - both 3/2 sliders it would play more consistently
00:29:932 (1,1,1) - you could probably make this all one combo because nothing really changes
00:55:067 (4) - with similar reasoning i had to the comment i made at 00:04:473 (3) - the beat on 00:55:067 - isn't as important as 00:55:229 - since the vocals are stressed and the synths change note
01:16:310 (1) - here again, isn't the beat on 01:16:473 - a lot more important? like how you mapped 01:11:283 (1) - the sounds here are quite similar
01:35:446 (2,3) - feels awkward here because of the 3/2 because you were mapping vocals the whole time then suddenly switch to a 3/2 gap to map to the clap. i feel a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qUSxb/f246ee9fb0.jpg would work a lot better
01:44:040 (3) - the beat you mapped to here is relatively weak and i dont think you should make it clickable in an easy. a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qUSAW/5211fd105d.jpg would work nicely to make the more important vocal on 01:44:527 - clickable.
01:51:986 - missing clap? uwu
02:05:932 (1,1,1) - ya probably no need to nc spam in easy
02:12:094 (2) - with the recurring theme of this easy mod, i feel the vocal on 02:12:256 - is so more more important than the clap on 02:12:094 - and i would really like to see it being clicked instead of occurring during a slider slider. alternatively having a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qUSNm/5081544943.jpg can also work because the accented vocal can feel attached to the downbeat
02:14:689 (3) - ^
02:52:310 (1) - same sort of thing, beat on 02:52:473 - is much more important

[Normal]
00:10:797 (5,6) - ctrl g this rhythm so 00:11:446 - can be clickable since it's an upbeat vocal and nothing really is worth clicking on 00:11:121
00:11:770 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is mapped to beats and this 00:14:202 (1,2,3,4,5) - is mapped to vocals which can be identified because you didn't care about the vocal on 00:12:905 - but then on 00:14:202 (1,4) - you map both vocals and ignore drum. this kind of ambiguity makes it hard for the player to realise what you're following :/
01:33:824 - probably not good to ignore this clap since you used it all the other times
02:21:337 (1) - i would like to see some consistency with density here. for the first half of the kiai you had 1/2 gaps every so often yet this section seems to only contain 1/1 gaps. even tho vocals are being held there are still opportunities to do things like http://puu.sh/qUTeL/983e0bced4.jpg to include some more beats and raise density.
02:32:527 (3) - ^ again, you can raise density because it's still in kiai time

[Hard]
i dont think ar 8 is needed since you rarely overlap. ar 7.5 works
01:48:581 (4) - this plays better as a 1/2 slider because vocals are in triplets here
01:53:770 (4) - ^
01:57:662 (4,1) - could be hard to read because i assumed it would repeat 3 times like all other sliders like this eg. 01:16:148 (4) - and because of the vocal on 01:57:986 . i don't really have a solution to this other just letting the vocals be clicked. or perhaps you could just remove this 01:58:148 (1) - note and add another repeat

after playing through the harder diffs i'm quite happy with their quality, my main concerns are the lower diffs
i can't star this atm because of quality issues but i'm willing to help push this forward once easy and normal are up to a decent standard, so call me back when you feel you're ready and i can polish up the harder diffs and hopefully look for a bubble c:

good luck!

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-08-31T11:53:06+00:00

Pentori wrote:
hello!

[General]
can you convert your bg to .jpg? saves about 0.9mb of space .png makes more vivid so its alright i guess, 900kb isn't really big anyway w

[Easy]
don't need widescreen support here o
00:04:473 (3) - this feels quite awkward to start here because the vocal on 00:04:473 - is only an entrance to the emphasised vocal on 00:04:635 . for cases like this, you have to sacrifice mapping to vocals for instruments. a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qURtW/ecd5a10bd2.jpg could work if u can't think of anything else ok
00:08:527 (3,1) - distance fixed during re-mapping prev part w
00:14:202 (1) - you indicated earlier with this slider 00:12:905 (3) - that you were fine with missing vocals yet the slider on 00:14:202 (1) - uses vocals instead and skips the drum which feels quite awkward imo. rather if you made 00:14:202 (1,2) - both 3/2 sliders it would play more consistently tried
00:29:932 (1,1,1) - you could probably make this all one combo because nothing really changes ok
00:55:067 (4) - with similar reasoning i had to the comment i made at 00:04:473 (3) - the beat on 00:55:067 - isn't as important as 00:55:229 - since the vocals are stressed and the synths change note is snapping to 00:55:229 - will solved?
01:16:310 (1) - here again, isn't the beat on 01:16:473 - a lot more important? like how you mapped 01:11:283 (1) - the sounds here are quite similar well yea ;
01:35:446 (2,3) - feels awkward here because of the 3/2 because you were mapping vocals the whole time then suddenly switch to a 3/2 gap to map to the clap. i feel a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qUSxb/f246ee9fb0.jpg would work a lot better fixd
01:44:040 (3) - the beat you mapped to here is relatively weak and i dont think you should make it clickable in an easy. a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qUSAW/5211fd105d.jpg would work nicely to make the more important vocal on 01:44:527 - clickable. ok
01:51:986 - missing clap? uwu wwwww
02:05:932 (1,1,1) - ya probably no need to nc spam in easy looking my old maps makes me want to nuke myself
02:12:094 (2) - with the recurring theme of this easy mod, i feel the vocal on 02:12:256 - is so more more important than the clap on 02:12:094 - and i would really like to see it being clicked instead of occurring during a slider slider. alternatively having a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qUSNm/5081544943.jpg can also work because the accented vocal can feel attached to the downbeattrue
02:14:689 (3) - ^ ^
02:52:310 (1) - same sort of thing, beat on 02:52:473 - is much more important yep

[Normal]
00:10:797 (5,6) - ctrl g this rhythm so 00:11:446 - can be clickable since it's an upbeat vocal and nothing really is worth clicking on 00:11:121 how about converting 00:11:121 (6) - as circle? I think this would be better for me.
00:11:770 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is mapped to beats and this 00:14:202 (1,2,3,4,5) - is mapped to vocals which can be identified because you didn't care about the vocal on 00:12:905 - but then on 00:14:202 (1,4) - you map both vocals and ignore drum. this kind of ambiguity makes it hard for the player to realise what you're following :/ my life was liek aniem, i haet et :< (now fixed with based on vocals)
01:33:824 - probably not good to ignore this clap since you used it all the other times ya
02:21:337 (1) - i would like to see some consistency with density here. for the first half of the kiai you had 1/2 gaps every so often yet this section seems to only contain 1/1 gaps. even tho vocals are being held there are still opportunities to do things like http://puu.sh/qUTeL/983e0bced4.jpg to include some more beats and raise density. sure
02:32:527 (3) - ^ again, you can raise density because it's still in kiai time ^

[Hard]
i dont think ar 8 is needed since you rarely overlap. ar 7.5 works hmm ok then
01:48:581 (4) - this plays better as a 1/2 slider because vocals are in triplets here ok
01:53:770 (4) - ^^
01:57:662 (4,1) - could be hard to read because i assumed it would repeat 3 times like all other sliders like this eg. 01:16:148 (4) - and because of the vocal on 01:57:986 . i don't really have a solution to this other just letting the vocals be clicked. or perhaps you could just remove this 01:58:148 (1) - note and add another repeat tried two 1/4 reverse w

after playing through the harder diffs i'm quite happy with their quality, my main concerns are the lower diffs
i can't star this atm because of quality issues but i'm willing to help push this forward once easy and normal are up to a decent standard, so call me back when you feel you're ready and i can polish up the harder diffs and hopefully look for a bubble c: okay, Thank you

good luck!

Fixed almost all lmao, sorry for my messy low diffs

Sakurauchi Riko

1,582 posts

Joined January 2015

Sakurauchi Riko 2016-08-31T19:06:45+00:00

Heyo, quick overlook by me. I didnt find much (obv. cuz im noob modder and it got modded a million times

) but maybe it helps

Easy

00:49:229 (3) - i mention this because some modder on my own mapset said the same thing and it totally makes sense to me: So the flow from 00:48:094 (1,2) - tends more to the reverse circle of 00:49:229 (3) - that slider. For really new players this may be confusing, since they obviously follow the most simple flow and the most pleasant cursor movement. Currently they (the player) would rather move to the reverse circle of the slider than the sliderhead itself. furthermore the really sharp angle from 00:48:905 (2) - to the sliderhead of 00:49:229 (3) - is really awkward (especially in smooth kiai)
01:11:283 (1) - personally im not a fan to make this slider the exact same as 01:10:148 (3) - because at 01:11:283 (1) - starts a new section of the music and a change of flow and sliderart (maybe a straight one with a red anchor so you can flow it to the next object?) is really appropriate imo. Like you did here 01:15:337 (3,1) - (different sliderart, flow change is optional

)
01:46:310 (3) - shape isnt visually perfect for the perfect cursor movement (flow), bend the slider more to the right to be exact, but just leave this as an unreasonable comment
Great sliderarts in that diff, I love them!

Normal

00:28:635 (3,4,5) - i really dont like this aesthetically: This is (im pretty sure) the only spot in the diff where you made a blanket this close. furthermore the hitcircles (so 3 and 4 as normal circles and 5 as the sliderheas) look pretty randomly placed since its not a perfect 3-sided triangle. It just falls apart from the rest of the map since its the very only spot so it looks inappropriate
02:03:175 (1,2) - make this symmetrical maybe, like http://puu.sh/qVkCA/f78e778dc4.jpg
Hmm.. compared to Easy there isnt much slider variety. I know that the Easy has a better foundation for sliderarts than Normal but its just smth i noticed.

So for me those 2 diffs look pretty clean instead of messy tbh.. hm well i think thats subjective

GL for your final way to get this huge and awesome mapset ranked, i cant wait for my pp at sky arrow :> (btw imo the jumps are very legit, its obvious that the music needs a "most intense part" which includes huge jumps to fit as a very hard map, idk why people are complaining about this (srsly deep inside them, they are happy that this map gives them a lot of pp, and so am i lmao)
GL and Happy mapping (:

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-08-31T19:12:55+00:00

~~I will reply and apply to the mod tomorrow. Thank you very much, Phyloukz!~~ replying w

Phyloukz wrote:
Heyo, quick overlook by me. I didnt find much (obv. cuz im noob modder and it got modded a million times ) but maybe it helps

Easy
00:49:229 (3) - i mention this because some modder on my own mapset said the same thing and it totally makes sense to me: So the flow from 00:48:094 (1,2) - tends more to the reverse circle of 00:49:229 (3) - that slider. For really new players this may be confusing, since they obviously follow the most simple flow and the most pleasant cursor movement. Currently they (the player) would rather move to the reverse circle of the slider than the sliderhead itself. furthermore the really sharp angle from 00:48:905 (2) - to the sliderhead of 00:49:229 (3) - is really awkward (especially in smooth kiai) so changing the direction or flow will solve this right? Fixed.
01:11:283 (1) - personally im not a fan to make this slider the exact same as 01:10:148 (3) - because at 01:11:283 (1) - starts a new section of the music and a change of flow and sliderart (maybe a straight one with a red anchor so you can flow it to the next object?) is really appropriate imo. Like you did here 01:15:337 (3,1) - (different sliderart, flow change is optional ) changed
01:46:310 (3) - shape isnt visually perfect for the perfect cursor movement (flow), bend the slider more to the right to be exact, but just leave this as an unreasonable comment tried to make it more to the right
Great sliderarts in that diff, I love them!

Normal
00:28:635 (3,4,5) - i really dont like this aesthetically: This is (im pretty sure) the only spot in the diff where you made a blanket this close. furthermore the hitcircles (so 3 and 4 as normal circles and 5 as the sliderheas) look pretty randomly placed since its not a perfect 3-sided triangle. It just falls apart from the rest of the map since its the very only spot so it looks inappropriate true, tried to make it more simple one
02:03:175 (1,2) - make this symmetrical maybe, like http://puu.sh/qVkCA/f78e778dc4.jpg tried.
Hmm.. compared to Easy there isnt much slider variety. I know that the Easy has a better foundation for sliderarts than Normal but its just smth i noticed. well, my easy had 4/1 that the slider's length is enough for sliderart i guess

So for me those 2 diffs look pretty clean instead of messy tbh.. hm well i think thats subjective
GL for your final way to get this huge and awesome mapset ranked, i cant wait for my pp at sky arrow :> (btw imo the jumps are very legit, its obvious that the music needs a "most intense part" which includes huge jumps to fit as a very hard map, idk why people are complaining about this (srsly deep inside them, they are happy that this map gives them a lot of pp, and so am i lmao) wwwwwww
GL and Happy mapping (:

fixed all, thank you!

Last edited by Akitoshi 2016-09-01T03:47:01+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

my angel kotori

3 posts

Joined August 2015

my angel kotori 2016-09-01T03:46:50+00:00

I like this map very much.So I want it can ranked

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-09-01T03:48:36+00:00

ever lasting wrote:
I like this map very much.So I want it can ranked

Thank you for playing! I'm still looking for people to look my map to polish my diffs to make it ranked

allein

Beatmap Nominator

821 posts

Joined March 2015

allein 2016-09-01T10:49:47+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
ever lasting wrote:
I like this map very much.So I want it can ranked
Thank you for playing! I'm still looking for people to look my map to polish my diffs to make it ranked

T R I G G E R E D

Lully

1,270 posts

Joined September 2013

Lully 2016-09-01T13:51:15+00:00

ok wub
just easy and normal as requested~

easy

00:04:635 (2) - pls http://puu.sh/qWdAV.jpg
00:06:419 (1) - could be more curvy
00:08:527 (3) - 475 162
00:12:905 (3) - rlly small blanket error
00:17:608 (2) - http://puu.sh/qWdSZ.jpg looks better
00:42:256 (3,1) - looks like a small blanket error
01:45:013 (1) - make this pls symmetric~

normal

00:05:770 (5,6) - smth like that sounds better http://puu.sh/qWeig.jpg - that or something similar, you really should get that beat on the red tick
01:16:473 (1) - ohgod, i beg u. use a shape like this http://puu.sh/qWeql.jpg
01:44:202 (4) - maybe just completly straight

imbadatmoddingnormal

sorry for short mod lol

kewl map

DeletedUser_423548

DeletedUser_423548 2016-09-01T15:08:24+00:00

M4M From Game chat

自分にmod依頼していいのかい？

All Remap

冗談は置いといて

[Easy]

00:28:473 (3,1) - blanketするように変えてみては？
00:38:527 (2,3) - CSがでかい分blanketのずれがわかりやすいでう(ほんの少し)
00:42:256 (3,1) - ^ 結構わかります
00:48:094 (1,1) - 同じ場所に偏る&にたようなスライダー後の(1)のスライダーを少し変えてみては？
01:31:554 (3,1) - blanketばっかでごめんね (これぐらいしかとりえが無い)
終点が少しだけ広がってますGrid snap外して細かにしたら直るかも
02:29:121 (1) - 直角じゃなくなってるのは意図？

[Normal]

00:01:392 - から00:11:770 - まではvocalを拾ってると思うんですが00:11:770 - からいきなり後ろの曲を拾い出して変にやりづらかったです
00:55:716 (1) - 直角の方がいいかな
00:54:743 (5) - がカーブだから00:55:716 (1) -のようなカーブだとちょっと汚く感じました。直角の方がいいかなって思いました
01:57:337 (1,2,3) - こういう繋ぎはNormalだと難しいような・・・(2)のスライダー折り返しでいいのでは？
02:26:040 (7) - スライダーのメモリを基準に直角にしたほうがいいのでは？02:23:932 (1) - のように
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5990789

EとNだけで良いと言ったのでここまでです！

Good luck!

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-09-01T18:26:44+00:00

CookieKivi wrote:
ok wub
just easy and normal as requested~ yehaj

easy
00:04:635 (2) - pls http://puu.sh/qWdAV.jpg i luv slight curves
00:06:419 (1) - could be more curvy made it worse
00:08:527 (3) - 475 162 472*
00:12:905 (3) - rlly small blanket error w
00:17:608 (2) - http://puu.sh/qWdSZ.jpg looks better no thnx
00:42:256 (3,1) - looks like a small blanket error w
01:45:013 (1) - make this pls symmetric~ tried

normal
00:05:770 (5,6) - smth like that sounds better http://puu.sh/qWeig.jpg - that or something similar, you really should get that beat on the red tick ooo
01:16:473 (1) - ohgod, i beg u. use a shape like this http://puu.sh/qWeql.jpg no :^) Intentional slider fetish
01:44:202 (4) - maybe just completly straight i luv slight out of angles u kno

imbadatmoddingnormal sametbh

sorry for short mod lol nahh it's okay, I don't care about the length of the mod itself, at least they helped me and you tried to help me out too, thank you!

kewl map

Yasaija 714 wrote:
M4M From Game chat ｼ~

自分にmod依頼していいのかい？ Die丈夫ﾃﾞｰｽ

All Remap 殺すぞ

冗談は置いといて

[Easy]
00:28:473 (3,1) - blanketするように変えてみては？えんりょうしておきます。そのかわりBlanketにみえなくするため00:29:932 (1) - を下に置いてみました
00:38:527 (2,3) - CSがでかい分blanketのずれがわかりやすいでう(ほんの少し) これくらい大丈夫やろ(白目)
00:42:256 (3,1) - ^ 結構わかります先のmodで直しました
00:48:094 (1,1) - 同じ場所に偏る&にたようなスライダー後の(1)のスライダーを少し変えてみては？hit animationでは二つとも見えないのでセーフだと思います
01:31:554 (3,1) - blanketばっかでごめんね (これぐらいしかとりえが無い)
終点が少しだけ広がってますGrid snap外して細かにしたら直るかも大丈夫や気にしないで。一応Grid Snap最初からつかってません、ただ手が上手く動かないだけ・・・;;
02:29:121 (1) - 直角じゃなくなってるのは意図？02:29:121 (1,3) - Asymmetry =w=)b

[Normal]
00:01:392 - から00:11:770 - まではvocalを拾ってると思うんですが00:11:770 - からいきなり後ろの曲を拾い出して変にやりづらかったですさてはupdateしてないな~~~~～～～～～～～？！？！？！？！？コッソリ昨日自分で直してました
00:55:716 (1) - 直角の方がいいかな
00:54:743 (5) - がカーブだから00:55:716 (1) -のようなカーブだとちょっと汚く感じました。直角の方がいいかなって思いましたへいへい
01:57:337 (1,2,3) - こういう繋ぎはNormalだと難しいような・・・(2)のスライダー折り返しでいいのでは？難しくはないと思うけど一応変えました☆
02:26:040 (7) - スライダーのメモリを基準に直角にしたほうがいいのでは？02:23:932 (1) - のようにあ
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5990789
EとNだけで良いと言ったのでここまでです！

Good luck!

ありがとﾅｽ~

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-09-02T10:17:27+00:00

looks a lot better

[General]
~~both sources you linked have yuaru and utattemita as the artists. can you explain where you only saw one?~~ never mind actually i didn't look close enough

[Easy]
00:21:662 (4) - would feel better to have this on 00:21:824 - to represent drum
01:16:473 (1) - if u look back to how you mapped 00:55:229 (4) - you had the slider ending on the finish. i think you should maintain consistency and do a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qX8F7/ea6397496e.jpg instead
01:52:797 (1,2) - distance
02:12:094 (2,3) - since you decided here to have downbeats mapped, this transition 02:13:067 (4,1) - feels really awkward because here the clap is being missed and the vocal is being clicked instead of downbeat. then with slider 02:14:689 (3) - it runs over the important vocal and downbeat so it's quite confusing
02:18:256 (3,1) - hm sorry i missed this in my last mod but, i'm not really happy with the ways that 3/2 plays here. using 3/2 on places such as 02:15:337 (4,1) - work well because of the finish on 02:16:148 - but in the case here 02:18:256 (3,1) - the rhythm seems purely based on vocals which misses claps and makes rhythm feel hollow. perhaps a 1/1 oriented rhythm that uses white ticks instead of red would work nicely here even if the vocals might not be followed.
other places you can try apply this are places where there aren't finishes eg. 02:22:797 (3,1) - 02:29:121 (1,2,3)

[Normal]
02:04:959 - whistle for consistency

[Hard]
00:50:446 (3) - missing clap
01:05:770 - ^
01:16:148 - ^
01:57:986 (1) - nc isnt really needed
02:04:959 - whistle
02:32:527 (3,4,5) - this plays notably harder than other parts because of straight flow, maybe you could make 02:32:527 (3,4) - a slider instead
02:26:446 (4) - missing clap

[Insane]
same hitsounds missing for rest of diffs
00:31:554 (2,3,4,5) - hm, when i played the pattern (slider + slider + 5 note stream + slider 00:29:932 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - ) to be repeated but then this stream here came early and disrupts what the player expects which could be harmful to readability. if u follow a set pattern with the way you map this section i feel it'd play much more intuitively
00:41:446 (1,2) - hm i dont know about extended slider usage since its the only one u used

[Linada's Insane]
01:09:337 (6,1,2) - i dont like how this flows because it plays like a right angle after using so many sharp angles.
01:10:959 (1) - 01:11:121 (2) - if you ctrl g these sliders individually i feel it plays nicer as the sliders point to their next objects
01:25:473 - break shouldn't end early
02:02:121 - ^
02:08:202 - whistle
02:12:256 (1) - plays better with ctrl g as it creates a nicer angle
02:13:067 (5) - nc imo for readability
02:17:121 (3) - felt awkward to play because it passes through clap 02:17:283 - i would just use 1/2 slider imo
02:23:446 (4) - nc readability
02:40:473 (2,1) - blanket
02:41:283 (2,3,1) - better to overlap instead of stack here to avoid confusion. bit difficult to tell its a slider in play http://puu.sh/qXcB0/32a085b5fb.jpg

[dqs' Insane]
00:21:337 (5,2) - finishes dont seem to land on anything
00:50:364 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - this plays poorly imo because the finish + vocal downbeat gets ignored because the player is playing a stream instead that doesn't seem to be supported by the music..
01:25:959 - fix break
02:02:608 - ^
02:15:662 (5) - shouldn't this just be a normal finish? without the drum addition
02:20:040 (3,1) - really awkward, you're missing the drum on 02:20:202 - and because of all the triplets you've used on downbeats, players expect it to be that way
02:29:121 (1,2) - distance seems too close and players could click on blue tick bcos of it
02:30:256 (3,4,1) - different triplet usage that starts on white tick is really awkward for a map that used triplets on red ticks the entire time, i would remove this
02:41:446 - whats drum sampleset for
on a final note: can you please try and make your finishes consistent? they are very important for player feedback.. i tried my hardest to understand the patterning of your finishes but i unfortunately couldn't come up with anything. for example: here 00:39:013 (1,2) - you have two finishes with 1/1 spacing then another on the down beat 00:40:148 (1) - but then here you have one on a red tick 00:44:689 (1) .
00:49:391 (1,6,1) - i feel this finish patterning works best. so: one on the downbeat, another 2 beats after and then another finish for the vocal accent 3/2 beats after. if you look at 02:15:013 (1) - instead of placing it on the downbeat you placed it here instead 02:15:337 (2) - then further on it seems to randomly appear on red tick 02:20:689 (3) . feel free to contact me if you want me to explain further and help point out more examples, i'm here to help :v

[Sky Arrow]
dqs extra is hp 7 so i think you can make this hp 7 as well. the high density supports it
01:11:121 (6,7) - plays better as a kick slider imo so you dont have to play a white tick triplet right after a red tick triplet
01:37:554 (5,6) - if you remove these two notes and shift the sliders it works better with the vocals as the sliders are able to represent them. sth like http://puu.sh/qXen5/5deb7e04a6.jpg
02:25:878 (2,3) - the cursor movement slows down quite harshly here. i would move 02:26:040 (3) - down and 02:25:878 (2) - more to the left
02:05:932 (1) - this build up felt kind of weak since the music is much more intense here i think a sufficient build up is needed. for starters these sliders 02:08:040 (1,2,3) - are quite close (you used more distance with these sliders in the quieter part) and u should space these out futher since top players can play kick sliders with ease because of slider leniency. also 02:08:527 (1) - could use with a bit more and then u can keep increasing here 02:09:175 (1) - to something similar to the ds at 01:57:662 (1) . i think bcos the map is already 6 stars, the target audience you're aiming it toward will be able to play faster streams than what you have so why not let them :^)
02:31:554 (6,1) - i'd increase distance here as the slider tends to get overshot by players because of the high speeds that kick sliders introduce

call me back once everyone's done applying their mod and we'll see where we go from there

Last edited by Pentori 2016-09-02T13:02:50+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Linada

994 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2016-09-02T12:30:31+00:00

fixed all !!

Thanks for mod ^w^

yyaaayy

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Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-09-02T13:16:18+00:00

Pentori wrote:
looks a lot better

[General]
both sources you linked have yuaru and utattemita as the artists. can you explain where you only saw one? okay, "utattemita / 歌ってみた" is stands for "sang it" on japanese (you can also see the tags on the first video link I provided as the source), it's not the actual title of the song itself (title is same as the original ver which is ranked already https://osu.ppy.sh/b/549280) so I added them on tags instead. oh w

[Easy]
00:21:662 (4) - would feel better to have this on 00:21:824 - to represent drum I tried this pattern instead for avoid non 1/1 gap with circles http://puu.sh/qXk6n/1bc2f8eac2.jpg
01:16:473 (1) - if u look back to how you mapped 00:55:229 (4) - you had the slider ending on the finish. i think you should maintain consistency and do a rhythm like http://puu.sh/qX8F7/ea6397496e.jpg instead ok
01:52:797 (1,2) - distance ooops
02:12:094 (2,3) - since you decided here to have downbeats mapped, this transition 02:13:067 (4,1) - feels really awkward because here the clap is being missed and the vocal is being clicked instead of downbeat. then with slider 02:14:689 (3) - it runs over the important vocal and downbeat so it's quite confusing so I used the patterns like this, is this works? http://puu.sh/qXkr6/962001b2e8.jpg
02:18:256 (3,1) - hm sorry i missed this in my last mod but, i'm not really happy with the ways that 3/2 plays here. using 3/2 on places such as 02:15:337 (4,1) - work well because of the finish on 02:16:148 - but in the case here 02:18:256 (3,1) - the rhythm seems purely based on vocals which misses claps and makes rhythm feel hollow. perhaps a 1/1 oriented rhythm that uses white ticks instead of red would work nicely here even if the vocals might not be followed.
other places you can try apply this are places where there aren't finishes eg. 02:22:797 (3,1) - 02:29:121 (1,2,3) uhmmm ok, I tried to snap each objects to whites.

[Normal]
02:04:959 - whistle for consistency w

[Hard]
00:50:446 (3) - missing clap
01:05:770 - ^
01:16:148 - ^
01:57:986 (1) - nc isnt really needed
02:04:959 - whistle
02:32:527 (3,4,5) - this plays notably harder than other parts because of straight flow, maybe you could make 02:32:527 (3,4) - a slider instead okay
02:26:446 (4) - missing clap
//fixed all hitsounds and NC

[Insane]
same hitsounds missing for rest of diffs if that was only same as hard diff then I fixed.
00:31:554 (2,3,4,5) - hm, when i played the pattern (slider + slider + 5 note stream + slider 00:29:932 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - ) to be repeated but then this stream here came early and disrupts what the player expects which could be harmful to readability. if u follow a set pattern with the way you map this section i feel it'd play much more intuitively okay
00:41:446 (1,2) - hm i dont know about extended slider usage since its the only one u used ohmY

[Sky Arrow]
dqs extra is hp 7 so i think you can make this hp 7 as well. the high density supports it okay..
01:11:121 (6,7) - plays better as a kick slider imo so you dont have to play a white tick triplet right after a red tick triplet isee
01:37:554 (5,6) - if you remove these two notes and shift the sliders it works better with the vocals as the sliders are able to represent them. sth like http://puu.sh/qXen5/5deb7e04a6.jpg ok I snapped to 01:37:554 - with the reverses, but I made small distanced streams starting 01:38:202 - to 01:38:527 -
02:25:878 (2,3) - the cursor movement slows down quite harshly here. i would move 02:26:040 (3) - down and 02:25:878 (2) - more to the left okay I spread them more liek how I'm doing on my girlfriend. ohwait i dont have girlfriend zz
02:05:932 (1) - this build up felt kind of weak since the music is much more intense here i think a sufficient build up is needed. for starters these sliders 02:08:040 (1,2,3) - are quite close (you used more distance with these sliders in the quieter part) and u should space these out futher since top players can play kick sliders with ease because of slider leniency. also 02:08:527 (1) - could use with a bit more and then u can keep increasing here 02:09:175 (1) - to something similar to the ds at 01:57:662 (1) . i think bcos the map is already 6 stars, the target audience you're aiming it toward will be able to play faster streams than what you have so why not let them :^) that's evil :^) im evil kek
02:31:554 (6,1) - i'd increase distance here as the slider tends to get overshot by players because of the high speeds that kick sliders introduce oke

call me back once everyone's done applying their mod and we'll see where we go from there

Applied all for me, I hope I fixed them with your expectations

updated linada's diff, waiting for dqs w

gravy_evrywar

8 posts

Joined September 2014

gravy_evrywar 2016-09-11T22:14:30+00:00

01:16:473 (1) - What happened to the slider section after this slider on [Sky Arrow]? I updated this map and I noticed that it was gone and I miss it

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-09-18T15:42:15+00:00

sorry my late

-NanoRIPE-

[Extra]
00:08:851 (3) - try move it to (31,241) for better pattern? i think it makes such heavy jumps, id rather have small linear jumps for calm part like this
00:16:310 (3) - i think this slider should 1/2 slider and a circle imo i think this works well
00:39:581 (3,1) - imperfect stack intentional
00:49:878 (5) - ctrl h for better flow my intention is back&forth movement
00:50:364 (8,9) - why stack? it looks awkward if you make it stack imo its to differentiate from next stream.
00:51:986 (1,2) - it would be great if you make the pattern like [url=prntscr.com/c8g67h]here[/url] i did something else
01:13:067 (2) - ctrl j <3 changed anyother way
01:14:040 (1) - move little bit to right for avoid the overlap? (since you rarely to make overlap like this) and if you afraid abou this it makes too large distance imo
01:14:527 (3) circle you can try stacked it with slider (1) hehehe and this too small distance lol
02:49:067 (2) - try to ctrl j it

i have hitsound explanataion below

Pentori

[dqs' Insane]
00:21:337 (5,2) - finishes dont seem to land on anything
00:50:364 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - this plays poorly imo because the finish + vocal downbeat gets ignored because the player is playing a stream instead that doesn't seem to be supported by the music.. i did this for a different way to emphasize 00:51:013 (1) - a bit. the very common way to do that would probably be something like this http://puu.sh/rfvkA.jpg, my thought is the slow moving stream instead of stack, into the kickslider jump to 00:51:013 (1) - . I also think the soft-hitwhistle stream sounds very good with the vocals and stuff, while there is a constant 1/4 track during the kiais
01:25:959 - fix break
02:02:608 - ^
02:15:662 (5) - shouldn't this just be a normal finish? without the drum addition For rhythm pattern like this, a common drum fill would be kick-closing hihat-snare-crash, just like how i did. well out of the default hitsounds there isnt a kick but drum-hitfinish is a tom which is the closest thing to a kick, its not really notice that its not a kick when playing anyways. and i could do this rhytmh on other places like this, but this is the best spot imo just because of how the vocal is going down
02:20:040 (3,1) - really awkward, you're missing the drum on 02:20:202 - and because of all the triplets you've used on downbeats, players expect it to be that way
02:29:121 (1,2) - distance seems too close and players could click on blue tick bcos of it
02:30:256 (3,4,1) - different triplet usage that starts on white tick is really awkward for a map that used triplets on red ticks the entire time, i would remove this
02:41:446 - whats drum sampleset for
on a final note: can you please try and make your finishes consistent? they are very important for player feedback.. i tried my hardest to understand the patterning of your finishes but i unfortunately couldn't come up with anything. for example: here 00:39:013 (1,2) - you have two finishes with 1/1 spacing then another on the down beat 00:40:148 (1) - but then here you have one on a red tick 00:44:689 (1) .
00:49:391 (1,6,1) - i feel this finish patterning works best. so: one on the downbeat, another 2 beats after and then another finish for the vocal accent 3/2 beats after. if you look at 02:15:013 (1) - instead of placing it on the downbeat you placed it here instead 02:15:337 (2) - then further on it seems to randomly appear on red tick 02:20:689 (3) . feel free to contact me if you want me to explain further and help point out more examples, i'm here to help :v

As for finishes, i treat them very much like an addition hitsound blame EvilElvis, just like how soft-hitwhistle is commonly used nowadays. It is there to put some kind of hitsound on a special sound when there isnt another suitable hs available, or just emphasis(which is what ive done). Now, as i said its for emphasis most of my emphasis hitsound isnt there for anything in the music, but rather my patterns. I just feel like its such an incredibly repetetive song, very little variation in drum fills. its either 5x snare, 3x snare or nothing. so im basically just adding in some common drum fills instead, and a pattern to match. The reason why im not just using the soft-hitwhistle is becauseim already using them on the cxlosed hihats, so it cant really be used for anything else then. its a bit unfortunate that im using the same soft-hitfinish for the crashes in the music too, ideally it would be normal-hitfinish for the music and soft-hitfinish for the additions but normal-hitfinish just doesnt sound good in this song. So with that in mind, clearing the hitsounds and making them consistent with the music would make my patterns seem very random, with empasis on random objects etc.

I did some minor changes on 02:11:121 - if you wanna check that too

thanks for modding guys, if i didnt comment i fixed it, and Aki for iron patience lol

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-09-19T03:17:31+00:00

re:check

linada apply hitsounds i mentioned in hard aaaa

[dqs]

dqs01733 wrote:
00:50:364 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - this plays poorly imo because the finish + vocal downbeat gets ignored because the player is playing a stream instead that doesn't seem to be supported by the music.. i did this for a different way to emphasize 00:51:013 (1) - a bit. the very common way to do that would probably be something like this http://puu.sh/rfvkA.jpg, my thought is the slow moving stream instead of stack, into the kickslider jump to 00:51:013 (1) - . I also think the soft-hitwhistle stream sounds very good with the vocals and stuff, while there is a constant 1/4 track during the kiais

i don't really get your argument here, why are you trying to emphasise 00:51:013 (1) - when 00:50:527 (1) - has more intensity? if you look at your second kiai and see how you did this there 02:26:364 (7,8,1) - you'll see you used a 1/1 slider, so why be inconsistent and turn your 1/1 slider into a stream?

01:16:473 (5) - i'd remove clap here since there is no clap in the music
01:25:716 - why does this break end so early lol
02:31:716 - remove clap here too
02:37:067 - wtf happened to the rest of the map?? i swear you had this mapped before

[Sky Arrow]

Pentori wrote:
same hitsounds missing for rest of diffs

fix hitsounds from hard
and also here 00:50:364 (6) - needs a clap

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-09-19T04:03:22+00:00

i was so clumsy ;3
fixed the hitsounds including linada's diff.

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-09-19T15:46:36+00:00

bit better explanation for 00:50:364 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - , since other was a bit misleading

2016-09-19 08:08 dqs01733: hi
2016-09-19 08:10 Pentori: heya
2016-09-19 08:10 want to calrify that my *intention* isnt to emphasize that one clap, meant that the kind of common variation, with the 1/1 gap instead of a slider has that kind of result so my rhythm and pattern serve a very same purpose with similar contrasts, and movements as the example on the screenshot
2016-09-19 08:10 dqs01733: and the end result of that kind of rhythm, both on my and on the example is that one clap getting most empasis
2016-09-19 08:11 dqs01733: i only did it on that one spot because it sounded the best there, yes it does work well on other parts, especially on the second kiai as you mentioned but it kinda takes away the charm of it if i use it too much
2016-09-19 08:11 dqs01733: ill change it if it really is that audacious, but it was really the one thing in the map i really didnt want to change lol
2016-09-19 08:12 Pentori: hm alright
2016-09-19 08:12 Pentori: if 2nd bn makes a comment about it, you should change it

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spoke a bit with Pentori a bit, so i'll change it if the next bn who checks disagrees with it too. Also didnt map from 02:36:905 - because with the level of intensity for the sections i have now i feel its just better to end there. and fixed everywthing else, thanks for recheck

Akitoshi

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Topic Starter

Akitoshi 2016-09-19T18:00:25+00:00

Updated xd

Pentori

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Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-09-20T05:52:47+00:00

#1
the journey has only begun, good luck aki!

Akitoshi