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Rameses B - We Love

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Topic Starter
Plaudible
Requesting a better BG! Please shoot me any you think would be fitting, thanks! <3 <3
Izzywing
Aside from confirming that I'm working on the Hard GD, I have a background to suggest.

Here's the image used on the video on Rameses B's channel -

1366 x 768

http://imgur.com/eDXSTW3

Original size

http://imgur.com/3n3QPvU
Topic Starter
Plaudible

Hobbes2 wrote:

Aside from confirming that I'm working on the Hard GD, I have a background to suggest.

Here's the image used on the video on Rameses B's channel -

1366 x 768

http://imgur.com/eDXSTW3

Original size

http://imgur.com/3n3QPvU
BG Updated!
Totally forgot Rameses B but a background for the song himself XD
Still will take recommendations and is subject to change.
eeezzzeee
The tags rameses b and we love are redundant because they appear in the title/artist so you can remove them.
Also you can add monstercat to the tags for the record label :P

no kd
Topic Starter
Plaudible

eeezzzeee wrote:

The tags rameses b and we love are redundant because they appear in the title/artist so you can remove them.
Also you can add monstercat to the tags for the record label :P

no kd
Gotcha. Fixed and done! Thanks for the help :)
Vanillas
Sorry for late gd, here it is:

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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[Metadata]
Title:We Love
TitleUnicode:We Love
Artist:Rameses B
ArtistUnicode:Rameses B
Creator:Plaudible
Version:Vanillas' Normal
Source:
Tags:dnb, monstercat
BeatmapID:0
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Topic Starter
Plaudible

Vanillas wrote:

Sorry for late gd, here it is:

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Thanks for the GD! Added it to mapset. ^_^
Topic Starter
Plaudible
Added Hobbes2's complete GD! Only Insane left, 404 TeeJoe and -Liddell not found ಠ_ಠ
Ender_Sword
Heyo M4M here!

[Together]

00:30:312 (1,2) - This would sound a lot better if you did something like this
00:54:621 (1,2,3,4) - Might wanna separate this from 00:54:276 (2,3,4) - a bit
00:57:380 (5,1) - Why are these so close?
00:59:622 (1,2,3) - Might as well stack 2 and 3 on 1
01:00:311 (5,7) - Might wanna move 7 from 5
01:00:138 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Try remaking this part so they arent so mashed up in one spot Example
01:45:138 (5,1) - Could sound better like this

I can't really mod low diffs, but great map and song! Hoping to see this ranked!

also im a noob so if this isn't helpful my bad xdd
Topic Starter
Plaudible

E n d wrote:

Heyo M4M here!

[Together]

00:30:312 (1,2) - This would sound a lot better if you did something like this
Hmm, I'm gonna keep this one the same. I'm going with the vocal line and don't want to add too many notes, plus it's supposed to be on the easier side for the intro.
00:54:621 (1,2,3,4) - Might wanna separate this from 00:54:276 (2,3,4) - a bit Not too necessary IMO, did tweak it slightly.
00:57:380 (5,1) - Why are these so close? Slightly adjusted, though it is the slow part of the song still so spacing doesn't need to be intense.
00:59:622 (1,2,3) - Might as well stack 2 and 3 on 1 ? Confused on this :/
01:00:311 (5,7) - Might wanna move 7 from 5 Goes from 5 to 6 then to 7, it should be fine imo
01:00:138 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Try remaking this part so they arent so mashed up in one spot Example Hmm, I think it's fine as it is for now, but I'll consider it. That 5 6 7 8 is a bit awkward to play though.
01:45:138 (5,1) - Could sound better like this
Agreed, helps with transition better too. Added!

I can't really mod low diffs, but great map and song! Hoping to see this ranked!

also im a noob so if this isn't helpful my bad xdd
Haha that's fine! Sorry I rejected a lot of changes, many of the things are patterns though that I try to keep together and making changes like the ones you recommended would be a bit rough, but I will consider them and if they pop up again I'll change them! Thanks so much for the mod! :D
MineSweeper
Hi, from M4M :)


[Hard]
00:25:138 (1) - end at 00:26:345 -
00:33:414 (1) - same
01:02:207 (5) - closer to 01:02:035 (4) - . I think 01:02:207 (5,1) - jump is resonable but 01:02:035 (4,5) - isn't
02:37:552 (5,6) - this may confuse, suggesting longer distance at 1/1
03:00:656 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - too long singe tap, i think 2 of them can be replaced to 1/2 slider
03:38:932 (3,4,5,3,4,5) - sream distances seems little bit long. use same distance with 03:37:552 (3,4,5) -
03:59:707 (4) - prev : 0.88, next : 1.08 intended?
04:17:207 (1,2,3) - make 04:17:897 (3) - far from 04:17:380 (2) -


[Normal]
even harder difficulties do not mapped before 00:25:138 - , so i think after paft is not need
01:01:001 (1,2,3) - make this like 01:02:380 (4,5,6) -
01:17:552 (4) - NC
03:22:897 (4) - the rhythm seems too hard, consider to change simpler like 03:33:414 (3,4,5,6) - this part


trying difficulties nod modded yet, because i'm not good at modding.
good luck!
Shishou
saw this map from your modding queue
m4m: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/441302

[easy]
00:30:311 (1) - Recovery time is not enough you need 3-4 white ticks before you place a note. Move 00:30:311 (1) - <this slider here > 00:30:656 (1) -
00:44:621 insert break time?
00:50:312 (5) - remove slider hit whistle?
00:50:312 (5) - nc
00:52:725 (1) - remove nc
00:53:070 (5) - nc
01:01:346 (4) - nc
01:02:381 (1) - remove nc
01:06:863 - 01:08:932 (4) - map?
01:15:138 (1) - whistle?
01:26:863 (1) - ^
01:45:483 - 01:47:552 (6) - map?
03:28:242 (2) - move this here 03:28:587 (2) - then add circle here 03:28:242 after you do that


[normal]
00:32:035 (1) - move the end of this slider to fix overlap
00:50:656 (2) - make this slider like this 00:52:035 (5) -
00:59:621 (4) - nc
04:22:380 (1,2) - blanket

[Hard]
00:54:794 (5,6) - move this 2 here 00:54:708
01:08:414 (2,3) - stack it properly
01:12:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - confusing imo
02:03:759 (8,9) - blanket
02:07:035 (10,1) - ^
02:12:725 (1) - what o.o change slider plox
02:14:104 (1) - ^
02:14:794 (2,3,4,5,1) - re-map , confusing imo
02:37:897 (6) - nc
02:40:656 (6) - nc
02:43:414 (6) - nc
02:46:172 (6) - nc
03:23:242 (1) - move this slider here 03:23:070

[together]
00:36:173 (1) - move the end of this slider to fix overlap
00:41:690 (1) - end slider here? 00:41:690
03:32:724 (1,2) - overlap?

that's all good luck in ranking it and don't forget to mod my map
Izzywing

MineSweeper wrote:

Hi, from M4M :)

[Hard]
00:25:138 (1) - end at 00:26:345 - Alright.
00:33:414 (1) - same This one is fine, I think
01:02:207 (5) - closer to 01:02:035 (4) - . I think 01:02:207 (5,1) - jump is resonable but 01:02:035 (4,5) - isn't Fixed.
02:37:552 (5,6) - this may confuse, suggesting longer distance at 1/1 Eh, nah. I don't think this is that confusing, players should be expected to read that this is 1/2 with shorter spacing, since this part of the song is really slow.
03:00:656 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - too long singe tap, i think 2 of them can be replaced to 1/2 slider I'll take your word for it. Fixed.
03:38:932 (3,4,5,3,4,5) - sream distances seems little bit long. use same distance with 03:37:552 (3,4,5) - I made these spaced triplets mostly for flow, I think it's fine as a difficulty appropriate element.
03:59:707 (4) - prev : 0.88, next : 1.08 intended? Good catch, thank you.
04:17:207 (1,2,3) - make 04:17:897 (3) - far from 04:17:380 (2) - Done.
Thanks for mod!

From abanes16

00:54:794 (5,6) - move this 2 here 00:54:708 It's fine as is, because the triplet is consistent with other triplets in terms of timing compared to the downbeat
01:08:414 (2,3) - stack it properly Good catch
01:12:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - confusing imo Well, it's a pattern. I think it's fine, if it's like always complained about or something I'll change it
02:03:759 (8,9) - blanket ok
02:07:035 (10,1) - ^ Not a blanket in purpose
02:12:725 (1) - what o.o change slider plox I thought it would be neat to have the "know i how I' or w/e she says all in one slider, since I made it a 1/2 double reverse slider. I think its alright.
02:14:104 (1) - ^ see above
02:14:794 (2,3,4,5,1) - re-map , confusing imo Alright, fair enough.
02:37:897 (6) - nc Fixed all of these
02:40:656 (6) - nc
02:43:414 (6) - nc
02:46:172 (6) - nc
03:23:242 (1) - move this slider here 03:23:070 This doesn't make sense because it would overlap with the previous slider

Thanks to both of you for the mods ~

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Topic Starter
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abanes16 wrote:

saw this map from your modding queue
m4m: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/441302

[easy]
00:30:311 (1) - Recovery time is not enough you need 3-4 white ticks before you place a note. Move 00:30:311 (1) - <this slider here > 00:30:656 (1) Done!
00:44:621 insert break time? Done!
00:50:312 (5) - remove slider hit whistle? There isn't one :c
00:50:312 (5) - nc Done!
00:52:725 (1) - remove nc Done!
00:53:070 (5) - nc Done!
01:01:346 (4) - nc Done!
01:02:381 (1) - remove nc Done!
01:06:863 - 01:08:932 (4) - map? Done!
01:15:138 (1) - whistle? There is one
01:26:863 (1) - ^ There is one
01:45:483 - 01:47:552 (6) - map? Following melody I wanna keep it empty.
03:28:242 (2) - move this here 03:28:587 (2) - then add circle here 03:28:242 after you do that Would require too much moving around, sorry.

[together]
00:36:173 (1) - move the end of this slider to fix overlap Done!
00:41:690 (1) - end slider here? 00:41:690 Would require me to adjust blanket and stuff, no thanks :(
03:32:724 (1,2) - overlap? Fixed!

that's all good luck in ranking it and don't forget to mod my map
Vanillas

MineSweeper wrote:

Hi, from M4M :)

[Normal]
even harder difficulties do not mapped before 00:25:138 - , so i think after paft is not need Just my mapping style, I'll consider if next modder point out this.
01:01:001 (1,2,3) - make this like 01:02:380 (4,5,6) - keep, as I don't like same rhythm in the same part
01:17:552 (4) - NC Fixed
03:22:897 (4) - the rhythm seems too hard, consider to change simpler like 03:33:414 (3,4,5,6) - this part Ok, done

abanes16 wrote:

[normal]
00:32:035 (1) - move the end of this slider to fix overlap ?
00:50:656 (2) - make this slider like this 00:52:035 (5) - keep, as I've used this thythm at 00:49:276 (3,5) - ,so I wanna try something others. besides as a normal diff, I do not need to follow everything.
00:59:621 (4) - nc Fixed
04:22:380 (1,2) - blanket Fixed
Thanks a lot for modding~~

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brdzxh
m4m

Applying for the whole set: lower the volume! it was disturbingly high while modding it considering the calm song Z_Z

Hobbes2's Hard
I am not really that good at modding easier difficulties so forgive me ;-;

00:25:138 (1) - remove unnecessary anchor points; you dont need more than 2 grey anchor points to get the shape you want, and if you are not sure add a red anchor point to "reset" it. Having more than necessary is unrankable iirc
00:26:518 (2) - ^
00:30:656 (1) - this is fine
00:33:070 (3) - this seems kinda off, maybe move it a bit to the left, so there is a smooth transition between the notes?
00:33:414 (1) - end this at 00:34:707 because it feels kinda clunky going to the next note
00:34:794 (2) - maybe move this a bit further down
00:41:345 (6) - remove an anchor point as its a straight slider
01:09:794 (2,3) - unstack these and maybe stack 01:10:138 (3) - with 01:10:311 (4) - sounds more right while listening to the song/hitsounds
01:11:690 (6) - you should maybe consider putting this somewhere else, because going from right to left without warning might catch people offguard at this level
01:12:207 (2,3) - unstack these please >-<
01:28:242 (6) - maybe bend this a little bit more towards 01:28:587 (1) - ?
01:29:276 (4) - unstack these and make them a little bit more like this and maybe move 01:29:449 (5) - a bit to the left?
01:43:759 (3) - damn, this looks... ugly in editor mode. fix pls v_v
01:52:725 (1,2,3) - maybe put these a little bit closer?
02:00:311 (1) - NC - not entirely sure about it though
02:12:725 (1,1) - you might have to change these, since they are kind of unexpected at this level because its not something that is common
02:55:483 (5,6,7,8) - ctrl+h and fix spacing between 02:55:139 (4,5) -because it feels kinda uncomfortable going from one direction to another as I mentioned before at this level
02:58:242 (1,2) - part of me says unstack, another says stack - not sure about this
03:00:138 (2) - move it a bit higher up for better flow
03:41:001 (1,1) - same as before, but you can leave them as they are
04:00:828 (2,3) - unstack v-v
04:01:518 (4,5) - ^
04:02:207 (6,7) - ^ - sorry but I dont like stacks like this, because they are so easy to misread
04:03:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe unstack the singles and keep the stream stacked so one can read the difference between the singles and the stream
04:05:828 (1) - NC this?


:!: Also you might have to map a bit more or cut the mp3 because 0 - 9.1%, 33% - 36.1%, 49.1% - 55.1%, 81.1% - 85.1% and 97% -100% has unmapped space, which adds up to 25.2% of unmapped space from the mp3, and the rules says the mp3 can have 20% unmapped space. :!:

Good luck with rank! :)
Izzywing

brdzxh wrote:

m4m

Applying for the whole set: lower the volume! it was disturbingly high while modding it considering the calm song Z_Z

Hobbes2's Hard
I am not really that good at modding easier difficulties so forgive me ;-;

00:25:138 (1) - remove unnecessary anchor points; you dont need more than 2 grey anchor points to get the shape you want, and if you are not sure add a red anchor point to "reset" it. Having more than necessary is unrankable iirc Fixed.
00:26:518 (2) - ^ I don't really see how to make this one with the same shape without using this many achor points so I kept it as is.
00:30:656 (1) - this is fine Okay!
00:33:070 (3) - this seems kinda off, maybe move it a bit to the left, so there is a smooth transition between the notes? Done.
00:33:414 (1) - end this at 00:34:707 because it feels kinda clunky going to the next note It is though D:
00:34:794 (2) - maybe move this a bit further down I've already compromised DS by moving it down. Is OK i think.
00:41:345 (6) - remove an anchor point as its a straight slider Oops.
01:09:794 (2,3) - unstack these and maybe stack 01:10:138 (3) - with 01:10:311 (4) - sounds more right while listening to the song/hitsounds Done.
01:11:690 (6) - you should maybe consider putting this somewhere else, because going from right to left without warning might catch people offguard at this level I think it should expect of ppl who are the target audience for this diff to be able to do.
01:12:207 (2,3) - unstack these please >-< okok, did something different.
01:28:242 (6) - maybe bend this a little bit more towards 01:28:587 (1) - ? ok
01:29:276 (4) - unstack these and make them a little bit more like this and maybe move 01:29:449 (5) - a bit to the left? Good idea. Fixed.
01:43:759 (3) - damn, this looks... ugly in editor mode. fix pls v_v :\ not sure what's ugly about it. I kinda like it.
01:52:725 (1,2,3) - maybe put these a little bit closer?
02:00:311 (1) - NC - not entirely sure about it though [b]It would break consistency, although I see where you're coming from.

02:12:725 (1,1) - you might have to change these, since they are kind of unexpected at this level because its not something that is common i've gotten this comment before, I think a double reverse isn't something too out of the ordinary. I know they're not in the mapping meta but I think that a double reverse really fits this part well (I like to keep the "know i how i" or whatever she says collected into one slider. If ppl really think its bad I'll remove, but I"m keeping for now.
02:55:483 (5,6,7,8) - ctrl+h and fix spacing between 02:55:139 (4,5) -because it feels kinda uncomfortable going from one direction to another as I mentioned before at this level ok!
02:58:242 (1,2) - part of me says unstack, another says stack - not sure about this I like it stacked.
03:00:138 (2) - move it a bit higher up for better flow Okay.
03:41:001 (1,1) - same as before, but you can leave them as they are Left as is.
04:00:828 (2,3) - unstack v-v
04:01:518 (4,5) - ^
04:02:207 (6,7) - ^ - sorry but I dont like stacks like this, because they are so easy to misread

[b]The above pattern was remapped.


04:03:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe unstack the singles and keep the stream stacked so one can read the difference between the singles and the stream
04:05:828 (1) - NC this?

Fixed both of the above.


:!: Also you might have to map a bit more or cut the mp3 because 0 - 9.1%, 33% - 36.1%, 49.1% - 55.1%, 81.1% - 85.1% and 97% -100% has unmapped space, which adds up to 25.2% of unmapped space from the mp3, and the rules says the mp3 can have 20% unmapped space. :!:

Good luck with rank! :)
Thanks for mod :)

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88,304,222380,6,10,L|88:224,3,75
104,144,223070,1,10,0:0:0:0:
104,144,223156,1,10,0:0:0:0:
104,144,223242,1,10,0:0:0:0:
104,144,223328,1,10,0:0:0:0:
104,144,223414,2,10,L|120:104,4,37.5
264,192,234794,5,8,0:0:0:0:
192,232,234966,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,272,235138,2,0,P|64:304|40:320,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,232,235483,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,160,235656,1,8,0:0:0:0:
104,96,235828,2,0,P|72:48|56:24,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,24,236173,6,0,B|192:16|192:16|240:24,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,88,236518,2,0,B|216:96|216:96|168:88,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,168,236863,2,0,B|272:160|272:160|320:168,1,75,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,232,237208,2,0,B|296:240|296:240|248:232,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,240,237552,6,0,L|96:104,1,150,8|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,40,238070,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,40,238242,2,0,L|296:40,1,150,0|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,40,238759,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,96,238932,6,0,P|432:152|440:176,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,184,239276,2,0,P|368:256|352:280,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,312,239621,1,0,0:0:0:0:
276,308,239707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,239794,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,320,239966,2,0,P|112:320|80:304,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,232,240311,6,0,B|24:216|24:216|128:192,1,150,10|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,176,240828,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,168,241001,2,0,B|320:128|320:128|344:232,1,150,10|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,328,241518,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,320,241690,2,10,B|240:360|240:360|216:256,1,150,10|14,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,160,242207,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,215,242380,2,10,B|320:231|320:231|216:255,1,150,10|14,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,208,242897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,104,243070,5,10,0:0:0:0:
112,104,243242,1,10,0:0:0:0:
192,72,243414,1,10,0:0:0:0:
192,72,243587,1,10,0:0:0:0:
272,48,243759,2,0,L|280:96,2,37.5,10|0|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,48,244104,1,10,0:0:0:0:
352,48,244276,1,10,0:0:0:0:
432,72,244449,5,10,0:0:0:0:
432,72,244535,1,10,0:0:0:0:
432,72,244621,1,10,0:0:0:0:
432,72,244707,1,10,0:0:0:0:
456,120,244794,2,10,L|456:168,3,37.5
440,200,245138,2,10,L|440:272,3,37.5
416,280,245483,2,10,L|392:336,3,37.5
368,344,245828,5,10,0:0:0:0:
256,136,246173,5,2,0:0:0:0:
160,104,246345,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,216,246863,1,2,0:0:0:0:
160,248,247035,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,272,247552,5,2,0:0:0:0:
352,352,247725,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,208,248242,1,2,0:0:0:0:
480,272,248414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,128,248932,6,0,L|272:96,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,176,249621,2,0,L|168:216,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,248,250311,2,0,L|320:264,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,152,251001,2,0,L|296:104,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,104,251690,6,0,L|96:96,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,216,252380,2,0,L|192:288,1,67.4999979400635,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,240,253070,2,0,L|344:232,1,56.2500021457673,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,253759,2,0,L|264:88,1,44.999998626709,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,112,254449,6,0,L|160:160,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,240,255138,2,0,P|256:264|256:272,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,208,255828,2,0,L|392:184,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,136,256518,2,0,L|256:112,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,88,257207,5,2,0:0:0:0:
80,168,257380,1,0,0:0:0:0:
197,185,257897,1,2,0:0:0:0:
154,281,258070,1,0,0:0:0:0:
286,219,258587,5,2,0:0:0:0:
342,307,258759,1,0,0:0:0:0:
385,202,259276,1,2,0:0:0:0:
473,242,259449,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,128,259966,5,2,0:0:0:0:
304,56,260138,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,136,260656,1,2,0:0:0:0:
184,128,260828,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,240,261345,5,2,0:0:0:0:
152,272,261518,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,256,262035,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,256,262207,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,262380,12,0,267897,0:0:0:0:

note to plaudible - you can fix the hitsounding volume if you think it's an issue, since it's probably best for the volumes to be consistent through all diffs.
Topic Starter
Plaudible

brdzxh wrote:

m4m

Applying for the whole set: lower the volume! it was disturbingly high while modding it considering the calm song Z_Z

Hobbes2's Hard
I am not really that good at modding easier difficulties so forgive me ;-;

00:25:138 (1) - remove unnecessary anchor points; you dont need more than 2 grey anchor points to get the shape you want, and if you are not sure add a red anchor point to "reset" it. Having more than necessary is unrankable iirc
00:26:518 (2) - ^
00:30:656 (1) - this is fine
00:33:070 (3) - this seems kinda off, maybe move it a bit to the left, so there is a smooth transition between the notes?
00:33:414 (1) - end this at 00:34:707 because it feels kinda clunky going to the next note
00:34:794 (2) - maybe move this a bit further down
00:41:345 (6) - remove an anchor point as its a straight slider
01:09:794 (2,3) - unstack these and maybe stack 01:10:138 (3) - with 01:10:311 (4) - sounds more right while listening to the song/hitsounds
01:11:690 (6) - you should maybe consider putting this somewhere else, because going from right to left without warning might catch people offguard at this level
01:12:207 (2,3) - unstack these please >-<
01:28:242 (6) - maybe bend this a little bit more towards 01:28:587 (1) - ?
01:29:276 (4) - unstack these and make them a little bit more like this and maybe move 01:29:449 (5) - a bit to the left?
01:43:759 (3) - damn, this looks... ugly in editor mode. fix pls v_v
01:52:725 (1,2,3) - maybe put these a little bit closer?
02:00:311 (1) - NC - not entirely sure about it though
02:12:725 (1,1) - you might have to change these, since they are kind of unexpected at this level because its not something that is common
02:55:483 (5,6,7,8) - ctrl+h and fix spacing between 02:55:139 (4,5) -because it feels kinda uncomfortable going from one direction to another as I mentioned before at this level
02:58:242 (1,2) - part of me says unstack, another says stack - not sure about this
03:00:138 (2) - move it a bit higher up for better flow
03:41:001 (1,1) - same as before, but you can leave them as they are
04:00:828 (2,3) - unstack v-v
04:01:518 (4,5) - ^
04:02:207 (6,7) - ^ - sorry but I dont like stacks like this, because they are so easy to misread
04:03:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe unstack the singles and keep the stream stacked so one can read the difference between the singles and the stream
04:05:828 (1) - NC this?


:!: Also you might have to map a bit more or cut the mp3 because 0 - 9.1%, 33% - 36.1%, 49.1% - 55.1%, 81.1% - 85.1% and 97% -100% has unmapped space, which adds up to 25.2% of unmapped space from the mp3, and the rules says the mp3 can have 20% unmapped space. :!:

Good luck with rank! :)
Volume lowered to 69% across all difficulties besides Vanillas', already fine. Updated Hobbes2's map and my maps with new audio changes + better jump patterns.

Mapping more is unnecessary, 0-9.1% is opening so it should be fine ;) ty for the mod! Modding yours now~
brdzxh
m4m again~

Together
00:30:312 (1,2,1,2) - these sliders should be much slower considering the slow part; also fix some of the anchor points - look below
00:36:173 (1) - this was not very comfortable to look at in editor, and I am not sure if you are allowed to put the anchor points out of the grid - but fix the unnecessary anchor points atleast
00:51:864 (5) - move the first anchor point a bit down
01:05:138 (2) - NC and maybe move it to the right side of the slider before
01:06:518 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - the jumps should gradually increase in spacing and not big -> small -> big as it feels kinda awkward
01:16:690 (6) - I would put this in the same direction as 01:17:035 (7) -
01:47:897 (1) - slow slider maybe? :P
01:53:242 (6,1) - increase spacing a bit
01:58:586 (8,1) - stack and bend the slider so it goes a bit more upwards
01:59:622 (1) - remove NC
01:59:966 (4) - NC
02:03:069 (1) - move first anchor point a bit to the left
02:05:311 (8) - maybe bend it the other way?
02:12:983 (4) - this looks sorta out of position
02:14:793 (3) - remove NC
03:31:345 (1,2,3,4,5) - bend it a bit upwards?
03:32:208 (1,2,3) - ^to follow the stack

There are not really a lot of things to say as dnb maps are pretty straight forward, but these were the things I noticed

I think thats the end of my mod, and again good luck with rank! :)
OscaR CUBE
Hii M4M :)

  1. Check AiMod, there's some tags, audio preview conflict
Easy
  1. Check AiMod for DS mistakes
  2. 00:47:208 (1,2) - fix blanket?
  3. 00:49:277 (4,1) - ^
  4. 00:55:829 (1,2,3) - ^
  5. 00:58:243 (1,2) - ^
  6. 01:03:760 (1) - add finish at the start following the sound in the song?
  7. 01:05:139 (2) - ^
  8. 01:09:622 (2,4) - make these identical? i think it's more attractive :D
  9. 01:16:863 (4,1) - fix blanket?
  10. 01:25:138 (6,1) - the distance is a bit too close
  11. 01:28:932 (1,2) - fix blanket?
  12. 01:29:967 (2,3) - ^
  13. 01:45:483 - why empty?
  14. 01:57:898 (2,1) - make these identical?
  15. 02:02:036 (6) - curve this a bit more to follow this slider 02:00:656 (4) - curve?
  16. 02:06:518 (4,6) - fix blanket?
  17. 02:43:760 (7,2,3) - these slide sound different from the other. maybe you'd like to use the whistle just at the start and the end of the slider?
  18. 02:49:277 (2,4,5) - ^
  19. 02:54:105 (1,2) - ^
  20. 02:59:622 (1) - how about make this slider not too curved?
  21. 03:00:656 (3) - Ctrl + H? and use this to change 03:01:691 (5) - ?
  22. 03:03:070 (7,1) - fix blanket?
  23. 03:22:725 (2,3) - ^
  24. 03:25:829 (6) - how about like this? this make the blanket better imo
  25. 03:34:105 (2,3) - distance?
  26. 03:35:484 (3,4) - fix blanket?
  27. 03:36:174 (4,5) - ^
  28. 03:38:932 (2,3) - ^
  29. 03:40:312 (4,1) - ^
  30. 03:57:897 - empty?
  31. 04:11:691 (6,7) - the slider sound?

Vanilla's Normal
  1. 00:58:587 (2) - how about make this a bit curve? like this? i think this makes the flow better :?
  2. 02:42:380 (5,1) - blanket this?
  3. 02:47:207 (4) - move this to the bottom corner on the left side for flow?
  4. 02:50:311 (5,1) - fix blanket?
  5. 03:01:690 (7) - add clap at the reverse arrow?
  6. 03:06:518 (5,6,7,1,2) - why there is no clap sound?
  7. 04:22:380 (1,2) - fix blanket?

Hobbes2's Hard
  1. Check AiMod for not snapped object
  2. 00:33:414 (1) - this may be confusing, how about end this slider at the red tick?
  3. 00:47:552 (3,7) - blanket or make these identical?
  4. 00:53:070 (2,3) - fix blanket?
  5. 01:09:794 (2,3) - i think the distance is a bit odd here.. :? stack them or add circle at 01:09:966 (3) - ?
  6. 01:49:276 (5,1) - blanket this?
  7. 02:07:207 (1) - use 3 point slider?
  8. 03:06:518 (1,2,3,4) - blanket?
  9. 03:43:070 (2,3,4,5,6) - how about not stacking these? i dont really know how to explain this because the previous objects moves actively following the music but suddenly it becomes a bit passive? :?
  10. 04:15:138 (2) - make this not too curved? it looks a bit unattractive imo
  11. 04:22:207 (4) - how about move this to 288,272? idk why i prefer this but maybe because it still shows the slowing move from objects before it without completely stopping :?: sawry, dont really know to explain this...

Together
  1. 00:30:312 (1) - how about make it like this? i think it follows the vocal better :D
  2. 02:45:138 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this a bit more symmetrical?
  3. 04:11:173 (2) - same as hard diff. how about move this to 320,320?

There you go. I can't say too much in Together diff. It's too hard for me :(
Anyway, I hope this mod will help u. Sorry if this is useless.
All of these are just suggestions so feel free to ignore me. :?

And I love all the long slider pattern. It's so unique!
Link to my map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/466590

Good Luck~! :)
Topic Starter
Plaudible

OscaR CUBE wrote:

Hii M4M :)

  1. Check AiMod, there's some tags, audio preview conflict
Easy
  1. Check AiMod for DS mistakes
  2. 00:47:208 (1,2) - fix blanket? Didn't seem too bad, but fixed
  3. 00:49:277 (4,1) - ^ Felt okay, but fixed I think
  4. 00:55:829 (1,2,3) - ^ This one's fine
  5. 00:58:243 (1,2) - ^ Fixed
  6. 01:03:760 (1) - add finish at the start following the sound in the song? Done
  7. 01:05:139 (2) - ^ There is one
  8. 01:09:622 (2,4) - make these identical? i think it's more attractive :D You're right! Done
  9. 01:16:863 (4,1) - fix blanket? Done!
  10. 01:25:138 (6,1) - the distance is a bit too close Fixed
  11. 01:28:932 (1,2) - fix blanket? Done!
  12. 01:29:967 (2,3) - ^ Done!
  13. 01:45:483 - why empty? Swore I fix this, maybe I forgot to save... re-added.
  14. 01:57:898 (2,1) - make these identical? No thanks, requires too much change ;-;
  15. 02:02:036 (6) - curve this a bit more to follow this slider 02:00:656 (4) - curve? Again, too much change, no thanks
  16. 02:06:518 (4,6) - fix blanket? Done!
  17. 02:43:760 (7,2,3) - these slide sound different from the other. maybe you'd like to use the whistle just at the start and the end of the slider? Intentional, goes with the increase in "feelingness" (does that make sense?) then sudden decrease.
  18. 02:49:277 (2,4,5) - ^ Same
  19. 02:54:105 (1,2) - ^ Done!
  20. 02:59:622 (1) - how about make this slider not too curved? Done!
  21. 03:00:656 (3) - Ctrl + H? and use this to change 03:01:691 (5) - ? No thanks, I like it the way it is rn
  22. 03:03:070 (7,1) - fix blanket? Done!
  23. 03:22:725 (2,3) - ^ This one's fine
  24. 03:25:829 (6) - how about like this? this make the blanket better imo Done! This one helped a lot, I had trouble with this slider.
  25. 03:34:105 (2,3) - distance? Fixed! Swore I had this right, wth lmao
  26. 03:35:484 (3,4) - fix blanket? This one's fine
  27. 03:36:174 (4,5) - ^ Done!
  28. 03:38:932 (2,3) - ^ Fine
  29. 03:40:312 (4,1) - ^ Done!
  30. 03:57:897 - empty? Fixed
  31. 04:11:691 (6,7) - the slider sound?


Together
  1. 00:30:312 (1) - how about make it like this? i think it follows the vocal better :D Done!
  2. 02:45:138 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this a bit more symmetrical? Think I did
  3. 04:11:173 (2) - same as hard diff. how about move this to 320,320? The 1-2 jumps stack in a certain way, going to leave it as is. :)

There you go. I can't say too much in Together diff. It's too hard for me :(
Anyway, I hope this mod will help u. Sorry if this is useless. Many of my blankets were garbage, this helped a lot, thanks!
All of these are just suggestions so feel free to ignore me. :?

And I love all the long slider pattern. It's so unique! ^_^
Link to my map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/466590 Modded! (though already well mapped)

Good Luck~! :)
Topic Starter
Plaudible

brdzxh wrote:

m4m again~

Together
00:30:312 (1,2,1,2) - these sliders should be much slower considering the slow part; also fix some of the anchor points - look below Fiine, remodeled :)
00:36:173 (1) - this was not very comfortable to look at in editor, and I am not sure if you are allowed to put the anchor points out of the grid - but fix the unnecessary anchor points atleast Remodeled all sliders.
00:51:864 (5) - move the first anchor point a bit down Moved down 2 left 1
01:05:138 (2) - NC and maybe move it to the right side of the slider before Done
01:06:518 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - the jumps should gradually increase in spacing and not big -> small -> big as it feels kinda awkward Tweaked a bit
01:16:690 (6) - I would put this in the same direction as 01:17:035 (7) - Agreed, looks nicer
01:47:897 (1) - slow slider maybe? :P It transitions into the chorus, so I feel like it's a good spot, but if it comes up again I'll change it.
01:53:242 (6,1) - increase spacing a bit Done!
01:58:586 (8,1) - stack and bend the slider so it goes a bit more upwards Done!
01:59:622 (1) - remove NC Done!
01:59:966 (4) - NC Done!
02:03:069 (1) - move first anchor point a bit to the left Done!
02:05:311 (8) - maybe bend it the other way? Nah, I like it, works well with the downbeat :)
02:12:983 (4) - this looks sorta out of position Snuggly'd it
02:14:793 (3) - remove NC Done!
03:31:345 (1,2,3,4,5) - bend it a bit upwards? Sure, why not
03:32:208 (1,2,3) - ^to follow the stack Aiight

There are not really a lot of things to say as dnb maps are pretty straight forward, but these were the things I noticed

I think thats the end of my mod, and again good luck with rank! :)
Izzywing

OscaR CUBE wrote:

Hobbes2's Hard
  1. Check AiMod for not snapped object Fixed.
  2. 00:33:414 (1) - this may be confusing, how about end this slider at the red tick? Done.
  3. 00:47:552 (3,7) - blanket or make these identical? Fixed.
  4. 00:53:070 (2,3) - fix blanket? Done.
  5. 01:09:794 (2,3) - i think the distance is a bit odd here.. :? stack them or add circle at 01:09:966 (3) - ? ok
  6. 01:49:276 (5,1) - blanket this? the elbow of 5 points to 1
  7. 02:07:207 (1) - use 3 point slider? yep
  8. 03:06:518 (1,2,3,4) - blanket? ok
  9. 03:43:070 (2,3,4,5,6) - how about not stacking these? i dont really know how to explain this because the previous objects moves actively following the music but suddenly it becomes a bit passive? :? Agreed. Made it spaced, but just a bit. I don't want it too hard.
  10. 04:15:138 (2) - make this not too curved? it looks a bit unattractive imo made it not curved at all because lol why did i do that
  11. 04:22:207 (4) - how about move this to 288,272? idk why i prefer this but maybe because it still shows the slowing move from objects before it without completely stopping :?: Good idea! Don't worry I understand completely. sawry, dont really know to explain this...
Thank you for mod ~

As a note to plaudible, you may need a diff (like an advanced or whatever you call it) between mine and vanilla's normal to fit the curve out more (something at like 2.8 or 2.9 stars)

updated map -

its a me, luigi
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 45138
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:We Love
TitleUnicode:We Love
Artist:Rameses B
ArtistUnicode:Rameses B
Creator:Plaudible
Version:Hobbes2's Hard
Source:
Tags:drum n bass, chill, dnb, monstercat, Vanillas, TeeJoe, -Liddell, Hobbes2
BeatmapID:995649
BeatmapSetID:461656

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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2,135683,151285
2,223959,234044
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Foxy Grandpa
Hey!
Easy
04:16:173 (1) - move this up to the previous white tick, http://imgur.com/NTdAdo3

Hobbes2's Hard
01:12:380 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - These feels a bit awkward to play, maybe space them out more or change the shape of the sliders?
04:14:449 (1,2,3) - one of these is not like the other


TeeJoe's Insane
00:54:794 (5,6,7) - - these sliders flow really weirdly, maybe space them out a bit more?
00:57:207 (3) - this space sounds very awkward, maybe try something like http://imgur.com/z9nWYJS


I couldn''t find any issues on the hardest dif, love the song!! Can't wait to see the finished product
Topic Starter
Plaudible

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

Hey!
Easy
04:16:173 (1) - move this up to the previous white tick, http://imgur.com/NTdAdo3 Doesn't really feel right with a note between, but I'll play around with it and see if something else works better. Thanks! :)
Thanks for the mod~
Izzywing
01:12:380 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - These feels a bit awkward to play, maybe space them out more or change the shape of the sliders? I think this pattern is fine, personally. I'll keep it until I get a decent reason to change it.
04:14:449 (1,2,3) - one of these is not like the other Fixed this in the other mod lol
no changes C:
Topic Starter
Plaudible
Gonna be gone 'til Sunday, no updates/kudosu for mods til then. Posts/Forum PMs will be seen then. Toodles!~
Nitrousdragon
for M4M

Hey, remember that you said you might have been bad at mapping and gave me a star on my map because it looked good? Well, guess what? I can't mod yours. It looks amazing and almost ready for a bubble. Other modders can take a good look at this, but I'd say this is just about ready.

No kudos please.
Topic Starter
Plaudible
Yay I'm back!~ Back to working on this. TYSM for star ;D
-Liddell
Here's my VERY LATE Insane GD (I'm really really sorry ;_;)

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I think it's better to have this diff as light insane since there are 2 insane diffs and this one has a lower star diff than TeeJoe's
Topic Starter
Plaudible

-Liddell wrote:

Here's my VERY LATE Insane GD (I'm really really sorry ;_;)

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I think it's better to have this diff as light insane since there are 2 insane diffs and this one has a lower star diff than TeeJoe's
Added as Insane difficulty! (Otherwise it's pushing other difficulty to second line :( ) Thanks so much for the GD! :D Will mod it in next post within an hour~
Topic Starter
Plaudible

-Liddell wrote:

Here's my VERY LATE Insane GD (I'm really really sorry ;_;)

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I think it's better to have this diff as light insane since there are 2 insane diffs and this one has a lower star diff than TeeJoe's

MOD:

Overall, try to stack some notes, as in this: http://puu.sh/pJG0E/9e320e936e.jpg at 01:02:724 (2,3,4,5,1,2)
Stacking some of these can make it more enjoyable to play since it appeals to the eye more as they're not just a bit off from the original area of a note before. http://puu.sh/pJG4T/5ff9c7214f.jpg example. Or, space them out a bit more.
Another example: 01:43:414 (4,3)

Make your sliders a bit danker! Look at Rilene's mod on page 1 for some examples.

Also! Try some jump patterns, feel free to look at other beatmaps and find some. Could make it more zesty (where applicable) Like here: 00:54:276 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -

00:25:138 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Try to blanket these so they flow a little nicer, like wrap them around each other, or don't overlap them and stuff
00:54:621 (3,1) - I'd add a note somehow between these
00:56:862 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/pJFWa/e42f6f95fb.jpg Put 3 on white tick, get rid of 5, and put 4 further away somehow
01:29:966 (1,1,1) - Space out
00:48:414 (4) - Remove NC
00:51:517 (1) - Remove NC
00:54:966 (1) - Remove NC and make it a jump pattern
01:13:070 (5) - Remove NC
01:13:414 (1) - Add NC
01:13:931 (3) - Remove NC
01:28:242 (5) - Remove NC
01:28:587 (7) - Add NC
01:51:345 (1) - Remove NC
01:52:552 (1,1) - Make this a 1-2 jump, remove NC on 2nd
01:53:070 (1) - Space further from 2nd ^
01:54:621 (5) - Remove NC
01:54:794 (1) - Add NC
02:05:656 (1) - Remove NC
02:05:828 (2) - Add NC
02:14:104 (1,2,1,2) - Stack 1,1 a bit closer and space 2,2 out, good pattern
03:42:380 (1,2,1,2) - ^
02:45:828 (1,2,3,4) - Make this more diamond-y
02:47:552 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ and change direction of 5, maybe right and downwards or up and to the left
02:52:725 (6) - Looks awkward, play around with it a bit!
03:02:897 (4) - Maybe stack then move it away from a bit onto 03:02:725 (3)
03:03:414 (1,1) - Example of notes to stack onto each other
03:32:380 (4,2) - ^
03:13:759 (4) - Whoops, forgot to hitsound here. Can you add finish + whistle? sorry LOL
03:16:173 (1,2,3,4) - Make this into a better plus shape, they should make the edges of a square

Just want to mention again sliders could use some variety here! They're all same curved ones, try to make them more unique.
Also, since this is a DnB song, obviously it'll be hard to make variety sometimes but it has to be done for the beatmap to be fun. Personally I think you should play around with things you're mapping the notes to, maybe vocals or bass lines or things like that. Also, consider more reverse sliders, you don't have too many. Add some! You can use those ones with 4 repeats to replace the 5 stream bursts I used in the Together difficulty for example. Try kicksliders, too. Ooh, also, blanketing sliders! If that's confusing, look at this: 03:36:346 (6,7,1). I blanketed like this, just as an example don't have to do. http://puu.sh/pJHBf/3a8a3d92e2.jpg

Try to diversify your map a bit and it should be good to go! ^_^ You have a really good start here, just add things when you get inspired while playing or something and improve as you go. Thanks so much for the GD! Check back for mods in the future, and reply when you update. :)
-Liddell

Plaudible wrote:

MOD:

Overall, try to stack some notes, as in this: http://puu.sh/pJG0E/9e320e936e.jpg at 01:02:724 (2,3,4,5,1,2)
Stacking some of these can make it more enjoyable to play since it appeals to the eye more as they're not just a bit off from the original area of a note before. http://puu.sh/pJG4T/5ff9c7214f.jpg example. Or, space them out a bit more.
Another example: 01:43:414 (4,3) Noted

Make your sliders a bit danker! Look at Rilene's mod on page 1 for some examples. Noted

Also! Try some jump patterns, feel free to look at other beatmaps and find some. Could make it more zesty (where applicable) Like here: 00:54:276 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - made it a bit more jumpy (triangles)

00:25:138 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Try to blanket these so they flow a little nicer, like wrap them around each other, or don't overlap them and stuff
00:54:621 (3,1) - I'd add a note somehow between these there is a note in between :v
00:56:862 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/pJFWa/e42f6f95fb.jpg Put 3 on white tick, get rid of 5, and put 4 further away somehow moved 3 on white tick. imo the 4 and 5 fits well :)
01:29:966 (1,1,1) - Space out spaced it but not too much
00:48:414 (4) - Remove NC done
00:51:517 (1) - Remove NC done
00:54:966 (1) - Remove NC and make it a jump pattern done
01:13:070 (5) - Remove NC done
01:13:414 (1) - Add NC done
01:13:931 (3) - Remove NC done
01:28:242 (5) - Remove NC done
01:28:587 (7) - Add NC done
01:51:345 (1) - Remove NC done
01:52:552 (1,1) - Make this a 1-2 jump, remove NC on 2nd done
01:53:070 (1) - Space further from 2nd ^ done
01:54:621 (5) - Remove NC done
01:54:794 (1) - Add NC done
02:05:656 (1) - Remove NC done
02:05:828 (2) - Add NC done
02:14:104 (1,2,1,2) - Stack 1,1 a bit closer and space 2,2 out, good pattern done
03:42:380 (1,2,1,2) - ^ done
02:45:828 (1,2,3,4) - Make this more diamond-y done
02:47:552 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ and change direction of 5, maybe right and downwards or up and to the left i think 5 here is fine
02:52:725 (6) - Looks awkward, play around with it a bit! done (i hope it's better now ;-;)
03:02:897 (4) - Maybe stack then move it away from a bit onto 03:02:725 (3) done
03:03:414 (1,1) - Example of notes to stack onto each other done
03:32:380 (4,2) - ^ done
03:13:759 (4) - Whoops, forgot to hitsound here. Can you add finish + whistle? sorry LOL done
03:16:173 (1,2,3,4) - Make this into a better plus shape, they should make the edges of a square done

Just want to mention again sliders could use some variety here! They're all same curved ones, try to make them more unique.
Also, since this is a DnB song, obviously it'll be hard to make variety sometimes but it has to be done for the beatmap to be fun. Personally I think you should play around with things you're mapping the notes to, maybe vocals or bass lines or things like that. Also, consider more reverse sliders, you don't have too many. Add some! You can use those ones with 4 repeats to replace the 5 stream bursts I used in the Together difficulty for example. Try kicksliders, too. Ooh, also, blanketing sliders! If that's confusing, look at this: 03:36:346 (6,7,1). I blanketed like this, just as an example don't have to do. http://puu.sh/pJHBf/3a8a3d92e2.jpg

Tbh I have no idea on how to map this song at first, so I watched other dnb maps and Rameses B maps. I've noticed that it's almost full of repetitive sliders (slightly curved ones). I think it's not a matter of repetitiveness, but consistency. Having varying sliders is a very risky option imo and I think it won't fit my amateur mapping style yet :c

Also, I limited the jumps to a few and avoided kicksliders because I intentionally planned to create an insane map (less than 4.5*) and putting in too much kicksliders and jumps may inflate the diff. Also, there's your Together diff to cope up with the jumps and kicksliders for the mapset ;)


Try to diversify your map a bit and it should be good to go! ^_^ You have a really good start here, just add things when you get inspired while playing or something and improve as you go. Thanks so much for the GD! Check back for mods in the future, and reply when you update. :)
Here's the updated version
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Naxess
M4M From Queue

[ -Liddell's Insane]
SPOILER
00:25:138 (1) - Really like this, gj

00:25:138 - Consider reducing the volume of hitsounds from here to 00:38:932 - , those sliderticks are a bit loud in comparison with the song.
Try increasing the volume over this time period from like 15% up to about 40%, as a kind of build up, matching the song.

00:48:587 - I'd recommend keeping downbeats (large white ticks on the timeline) clickable, since they're often stronger beats and lifting your finger on them wouldn't make sense imo. It also allows the player a point of reference to the rhythm, since downbeats lead into new measures. Plus you can NC the new measures properly by making the downbeats clickable.
^ You could also use this opportunity to create a pattern throughout these parts,
for example mapping all of these sounds 00:47:207 - 00:48:070 - 00:48:587 - as clickables and continue doing so.
^ 00:51:345 -
^ 00:52:207 - could be done like this:

^ 00:54:104 -
^ 00:56:345 - to follow the pattern.
^ 00:57:725 - seems you completely missed this one...
^ 01:06:518 -
^ 01:07:380 -

01:07:897 (5) - NC, new measure and distinct sound.

01:08:759 - 01:08:932 - These two could be mapped as circles, where the last one is stacked or overlapping 01:09:276 (1) - , as a kind of anti-jump, giving a brief pause.


01:10:483 (1,2,3) - It's probably not a very good idea to place a triple right before a downbeat, unless the last circle is a slider, because it takes away from the emphasization and fails to reflect the song.
For this whole part around 01:11:087 - , consider something like:


I'll continue the strong beat list here (consider making them clickable):
01:12:897 -
01:13:759 - not like the ones I've pointed out previously, but still a strong beat regardless.
01:15:138 -
01:15:656 -
01:17:035 - for example, around here it doesn't make sense that these are not clickable, but the same sound at 01:16:173 - is.
01:18:414 -
01:21:173 -
01:22:552 -
01:23:932 - you seem to have a consistent pattern going on with them, which is a good sign for your rhythm, but they are still the same sounds that are on the downbeats, which are mostly clickable. Refer to 01:23:070 - 01:21:690 - 01:20:311 - etc. So keeping these as slider ends will mean the sounds and map are inconsistent, which you should avoid at all costs.
01:25:311 - there's also potential other sounds that you could make use of that are before the stronger beat such as 01:25:138 - , but currently they are rolled over by a 1/1 slider.
01:44:621 -
01:55:656 -
01:57:035 -
01:58:932 -
02:03:932 -
Well, you get the idea.

01:19:104 (2,3,4,6,7,8) - In one of the streams, the strong beat is on the beginning and in the other it's at the end, which sort of breaks the player's connection to that sound and the map itself by failing to emphasize it. Consider changing this pattern so the strong beats are more defined.

01:23:155 (2) - From what I can hear, there isn't a sound here. Consider removing the note. It'd probably be better if all of these 01:23:069 (1,2,3) - where a 1/2 slider instead, since slider's emphasize sounds better, because of the inherited hold requirement.

01:29:966 (1,1,1) - Just a suggestion, but you could map these as 1/4 sliders and a longer one to differentiate them from previous measures.


01:50:052 (3) - Can't hear this either; seems like overmapping.
^ 02:06:949 (5) - Seems like you're trying to follow the 02:05:052 - sounds, but I'm afraid I can't hear them here.

02:09:276 - Will get really confusing if this isn't mapped because of the spacing.

02:38:414 - 02:39:794 - 02:41:173 - I feel like these can be mapped as well. See no reason to ignore them.

I'll stop here.
I'd suggest you work a bit on rhythm. Listen to which notes need to be emphasized and reflect the song appropriately.
(for some mapping theory about rhythm, take a look at the mod for the Advanced difficulty)

Also listen closely to the song when placing notes. If you can't hear them at 25% speed after removing the note, then you'd likely want to keep it removed, and this isn't just because it's not heard when listening closely at 25% speed, it's also for the sake of consistency.
If you can't hear a note in one place, then there's likely parallel places where the note isn't heard, which means you might accidentally notice, that there isn't a sound on those ticks, later on, which will lead to your map being inconsistent in what is mapped and what isn't.
Basically: Overmapping is often bad, avoid it unless you know exactly what you're doing and can give strong arguments for keeping the notes.

[ Advanced]
SPOILER
There's something about this map that makes it really hard to read... probably that's it's not following DS, but even that isn't it, because I should still be able to read it even if there was a lot of jumps...

00:48:070 - There are a lot of examples of this, so I'll only point it out this once. This repeat is repeating on a strong beat, and this means the player will click and still hold down while the strong beat impacts. I would recommend you refrain from this at all costs.
(get ready to read some mapping theory lol)
In rhythm games, the player should be able to tell which notes are to be clicked, not just by visuals, but by the music itself. They should be able to follow the rhythm and predict it. This means you'll need to keep consistent with how you map the sounds.

For example, if I were to map all strong beats as clickables, the player would be able to predict which sounds they should click, without even paying attention to the screen, in most cases. However, if I were to only map some of the strong beats as clickable, the player would be confused when a strong beat isn't clickable, and their connection to the sounds they are precieving and the map they are playing, will be damaged.

By damaging this connection between the song and the map, the player will stop trusting the song when it plays strong beats again, because it was practically "lying" about the map. This, in turn, means that the player might hesitate when strong beats are heard, and it'll get really awkward to play.
In conclusion, I'd recommend mapping ALL strong beats as clickable to keep consistency going. Downbeats (large white ticks on the timeline) are often strong beats, because the song often puts emphasis on them, as they lead into new measures. By mapping them as clickables, you can also NC them properly, since it's recommended to NC when a new measure begins.

Yet another reason why you should map them as clickable objects, is because it'll allow the player a point of reference to the rhythm. This way the player can continue clicking at a semi-constant rate without breaking pattern, which means clicking red and blue ticks will be a lot easier. You could even go as far as calling it "flow of the rhythm", because just as flow is important for the movement of the cursor, this type of flow is important for the rhythm of clicking.

Think not only of what creates hitsounds, but also what would require a click and what wouldn't.

01:16:087 - Here, I'll try mapping these measures to give you an example (I'm going to prioritize the drum instrumental layer, as this is DnB):
How you mapped it:

How I mapped it:

Notice how all 01:15:138 - 01:15:828 - 01:16:518 - 01:17:207 - are mapped as slider heads in mine?
and how all 01:14:794 - 01:15:656 - 01:16:173 - 01:17:035 - are mapped as clickables?
This is how you build a predictable rhythm.

It's important to note that having something predictable is not necessarily bad. Having something repetitive is, however.
You can avoid repetitiveness by building in variation in your patterns, just remember to keep consistency.

Basically mapping rhythm is all about balancing consistency and variation in a way that keeps away repetitiveness and holds predictability.

Enough of that, I'll try pointing out some OTHER stuff in your map, that doesn't have to do with rhythm.

01:21:863 - Completely ignoring sounds is not a good thing unless it's done intentionally. In this case the player might mistake 01:22:035 (4) - for being at 01:21:863 -, which means they'll probably break their combo or get a 100, because of inconsistent distance spacing.
^ 03:37:725 -
You should be making patterns to the rhythm, not rhythm to the patterns.

01:31:345 - Try moving the break start time to here.


01:58:242 (4,5,6) - A pattern like this would work fine in hard, but I'm not sure it really fits in an advanced. Up to you.
^ 03:08:759 (5,6) - Might also be a bit early to start with jumps.

03:18:932 (1,2) - These don't exactly reflect the music, they more add to it. Also known as overmapping. Most people don't look well upon this, so you might want to change it.
^ 03:41:001 (1,2,3,4) -

03:25:828 (1,2) - For brief pauses like these, try to indicate it better, for example by intentionally not stacking them. Just remember to do so consistently.

Sometimes anti-jumps like these are also NCed, in this case (2) would have a new combo.

03:27:552 (5,6,7) - Triples like these are mostly only done for streams, so doing this with 1/2s could confuse some people.
^ 03:31:863 (5,6,7) -
^ 03:34:104 (1,2,3) - and it continues...

03:36:518 (5,6) - Jumping to a weak beat makes no sense imo. If (6) was a strong beat it'd make more sense, but in this case it isn't. Consider spacing them normally, since it could easily be mistaken for a brief pause.

03:43:759 (5) - New measure, NC (noted by large white tick, also known as "downbeat")
^ 04:05:828 (3) -

Most of the things sort of repeat themselves, so I'd suggest checking through the difficulty thoroughly for similar problems.

Might want to increase your AR, since 5 is relatively low for an advanced.

[ General]
SPOILER
The soft-sliderslide sound kind of disturbs the quiet parts in the song. I'd suggest silencing it.
I believe -Liddell has already done so for their map, consider using the same sliderslide file so your folder doesn't become a mess.

Your tags are not done correctly.
"," does not mean the end of a tag, space does.
A map with the tag "Drum and Bass" can be found simply by searching "and".
Consider removing your commas.

Together has an unsnapped timing line at 01:42:188

Rest looks fine.

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Plaudible

Naxess wrote:

M4M From Queue

[ -Liddell's Insane]
SPOILER
00:25:138 (1) - Really like this, gj

00:25:138 - Consider reducing the volume of hitsounds from here to 00:38:932 - , those sliderticks are a bit loud in comparison with the song.
Try increasing the volume over this time period from like 15% up to about 40%, as a kind of build up, matching the song.

00:48:587 - I'd recommend keeping downbeats (large white ticks on the timeline) clickable, since they're often stronger beats and lifting your finger on them wouldn't make sense imo. It also allows the player a point of reference to the rhythm, since downbeats lead into new measures. Plus you can NC the new measures properly by making the downbeats clickable.
^ You could also use this opportunity to create a pattern throughout these parts,
for example mapping all of these sounds 00:47:207 - 00:48:070 - 00:48:587 - as clickables and continue doing so.
^ 00:51:345 -
^ 00:52:207 - could be done like this:

^ 00:54:104 -
^ 00:56:345 - to follow the pattern.
^ 00:57:725 - seems you completely missed this one...
^ 01:06:518 -
^ 01:07:380 -

01:07:897 (5) - NC, new measure and distinct sound.

01:08:759 - 01:08:932 - These two could be mapped as circles, where the last one is stacked or overlapping 01:09:276 (1) - , as a kind of anti-jump, giving a brief pause.


01:10:483 (1,2,3) - It's probably not a very good idea to place a triple right before a downbeat, unless the last circle is a slider, because it takes away from the emphasization and fails to reflect the song.
For this whole part around 01:11:087 - , consider something like:


I'll continue the strong beat list here (consider making them clickable):
01:12:897 -
01:13:759 - not like the ones I've pointed out previously, but still a strong beat regardless.
01:15:138 -
01:15:656 -
01:17:035 - for example, around here it doesn't make sense that these are not clickable, but the same sound at 01:16:173 - is.
01:18:414 -
01:21:173 -
01:22:552 -
01:23:932 - you seem to have a consistent pattern going on with them, which is a good sign for your rhythm, but they are still the same sounds that are on the downbeats, which are mostly clickable. Refer to 01:23:070 - 01:21:690 - 01:20:311 - etc. So keeping these as slider ends will mean the sounds and map are inconsistent, which you should avoid at all costs.
01:25:311 - there's also potential other sounds that you could make use of that are before the stronger beat such as 01:25:138 - , but currently they are rolled over by a 1/1 slider.
01:44:621 -
01:55:656 -
01:57:035 -
01:58:932 -
02:03:932 -
Well, you get the idea.

01:19:104 (2,3,4,6,7,8) - In one of the streams, the strong beat is on the beginning and in the other it's at the end, which sort of breaks the player's connection to that sound and the map itself by failing to emphasize it. Consider changing this pattern so the strong beats are more defined.

01:23:155 (2) - From what I can hear, there isn't a sound here. Consider removing the note. It'd probably be better if all of these 01:23:069 (1,2,3) - where a 1/2 slider instead, since slider's emphasize sounds better, because of the inherited hold requirement.

01:29:966 (1,1,1) - Just a suggestion, but you could map these as 1/4 sliders and a longer one to differentiate them from previous measures.


01:50:052 (3) - Can't hear this either; seems like overmapping.
^ 02:06:949 (5) - Seems like you're trying to follow the 02:05:052 - sounds, but I'm afraid I can't hear them here.

02:09:276 - Will get really confusing if this isn't mapped because of the spacing.

02:38:414 - 02:39:794 - 02:41:173 - I feel like these can be mapped as well. See no reason to ignore them.

I'll stop here.
I'd suggest you work a bit on rhythm. Listen to which notes need to be emphasized and reflect the song appropriately.
(for some mapping theory about rhythm, take a look at the mod for the Advanced difficulty)

Also listen closely to the song when placing notes. If you can't hear them at 25% speed after removing the note, then you'd likely want to keep it removed, and this isn't just because it's not heard when listening closely at 25% speed, it's also for the sake of consistency.
If you can't hear a note in one place, then there's likely parallel places where the note isn't heard, which means you might accidentally notice, that there isn't a sound on those ticks, later on, which will lead to your map being inconsistent in what is mapped and what isn't.
Basically: Overmapping is often bad, avoid it unless you know exactly what you're doing and can give strong arguments for keeping the notes.

[ Advanced]
SPOILER
There's something about this map that makes it really hard to read... probably that's it's not following DS, but even that isn't it, because I should still be able to read it even if there was a lot of jumps...

00:48:070 - There are a lot of examples of this, so I'll only point it out this once. This repeat is repeating on a strong beat, and this means the player will click and still hold down while the strong beat impacts. I would recommend you refrain from this at all costs.
(get ready to read some mapping theory lol)
In rhythm games, the player should be able to tell which notes are to be clicked, not just by visuals, but by the music itself. They should be able to follow the rhythm and predict it. This means you'll need to keep consistent with how you map the sounds.

For example, if I were to map all strong beats as clickables, the player would be able to predict which sounds they should click, without even paying attention to the screen, in most cases. However, if I were to only map some of the strong beats as clickable, the player would be confused when a strong beat isn't clickable, and their connection to the sounds they are precieving and the map they are playing, will be damaged.

By damaging this connection between the song and the map, the player will stop trusting the song when it plays strong beats again, because it was practically "lying" about the map. This, in turn, means that the player might hesitate when strong beats are heard, and it'll get really awkward to play.
In conclusion, I'd recommend mapping ALL strong beats as clickable to keep consistency going. Downbeats (large white ticks on the timeline) are often strong beats, because the song often puts emphasis on them, as they lead into new measures. By mapping them as clickables, you can also NC them properly, since it's recommended to NC when a new measure begins.

Yet another reason why you should map them as clickable objects, is because it'll allow the player a point of reference to the rhythm. This way the player can continue clicking at a semi-constant rate without breaking pattern, which means clicking red and blue ticks will be a lot easier. You could even go as far as calling it "flow of the rhythm", because just as flow is important for the movement of the cursor, this type of flow is important for the rhythm of clicking.

Think not only of what creates hitsounds, but also what would require a click and what wouldn't.

01:16:087 - Here, I'll try mapping these measures to give you an example (I'm going to prioritize the drum instrumental layer, as this is DnB):
How you mapped it:

How I mapped it:

Notice how all 01:15:138 - 01:15:828 - 01:16:518 - 01:17:207 - are mapped as slider heads in mine?
and how all 01:14:794 - 01:15:656 - 01:16:173 - 01:17:035 - are mapped as clickables?
This is how you build a predictable rhythm.

It's important to note that having something predictable is not necessarily bad. Having something repetitive is, however.
You can avoid repetitiveness by building in variation in your patterns, just remember to keep consistency.

Basically mapping rhythm is all about balancing consistency and variation in a way that keeps away repetitiveness and holds predictability.

Enough of that, I'll try pointing out some OTHER stuff in your map, that doesn't have to do with rhythm.

01:21:863 - Completely ignoring sounds is not a good thing unless it's done intentionally. In this case the player might mistake 01:22:035 (4) - for being at 01:21:863 -, which means they'll probably break their combo or get a 100, because of inconsistent distance spacing.
^ 03:37:725 -
You should be making patterns to the rhythm, not rhythm to the patterns.

01:31:345 - Try moving the break start time to here.


01:58:242 (4,5,6) - A pattern like this would work fine in hard, but I'm not sure it really fits in an advanced. Up to you.
^ 03:08:759 (5,6) - Might also be a bit early to start with jumps.

03:18:932 (1,2) - These don't exactly reflect the music, they more add to it. Also known as overmapping. Most people don't look well upon this, so you might want to change it.
^ 03:41:001 (1,2,3,4) -

03:25:828 (1,2) - For brief pauses like these, try to indicate it better, for example by intentionally not stacking them. Just remember to do so consistently.

Sometimes anti-jumps like these are also NCed, in this case (2) would have a new combo.

03:27:552 (5,6,7) - Triples like these are mostly only done for streams, so doing this with 1/2s could confuse some people.
^ 03:31:863 (5,6,7) -
^ 03:34:104 (1,2,3) - and it continues...

03:36:518 (5,6) - Jumping to a weak beat makes no sense imo. If (6) was a strong beat it'd make more sense, but in this case it isn't. Consider spacing them normally, since it could easily be mistaken for a brief pause.

03:43:759 (5) - New measure, NC (noted by large white tick, also known as "downbeat")
^ 04:05:828 (3) -

Most of the things sort of repeat themselves, so I'd suggest checking through the difficulty thoroughly for similar problems.

Might want to increase your AR, since 5 is relatively low for an advanced.

[ General]
SPOILER
The soft-sliderslide sound kind of disturbs the quiet parts in the song. I'd suggest silencing it.
I believe -Liddell has already done so for their map, consider using the same sliderslide file so your folder doesn't become a mess.

Your tags are not done correctly.
"," does not mean the end of a tag, space does.
A map with the tag "Drum and Bass" can be found simply by searching "and".
Consider removing your commas.

Together has an unsnapped timing line at 01:42:188

Rest looks fine.

Not gonna discuss each one since I accepted all, thanks for the enormous help! Feel bad for having my mod so much smaller now haha
I accepted all changes and fixed everything. SD went up to 2.86 :) Lot better. Thanks for the info, helped a lot since I'm a noob.
MaridiuS
ok here comes the mod from m4m.

Together
00:29:276 - I have no idea to what is the spinner snapped. All sounds that it could be snapped still continue or ended 4 white ticks before.
00:30:311 (1) - Can you place it at x314 y281. The way it is placed looks unpleasant since it is not blanketed.
00:36:173 (1) - I think that the end of slider should not be like that. The vocal doesn't really spike but it kinda gives a feel that it changes direction, my suggestion: http://puu.sh/pQWn8/26dde9541e.jpg it even blankets the next slider :)
00:48:845 - there is no beat here
00:49:967 (1) - There isn't a real reason to make it 1/1, there is no such tone that it follows. Simply reduce it to 1/2 and add a circle on the next white tick.
00:49:104 (3,4,5) - why is the spacing here larger than 00:47:726 (2,3,4,5,6) -
00:51:864 (5) - why do people like sliders on red tick that don't have a really strong rhythm ;v, I"d advise putting it on the white tick before this and make a 3stack of the 2stack which happened after this slider.
00:53:845 - 00:54:018 - why not make a stream with these two blue ticks, they clearly have a beat, even stronger than usual 3rd white tick dnb songs. Could even be kicksliders, or increased spacing stream.
Actually, why do you ignore those sounds in the whole section, they are rather audible and no reason not to follow.
or this 00:57:638 - sounds
01:00:311 (5,7) - i think it would look smoother if they weren't touching.
00:58:242 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you even ignored the 3rd white tick 5stack. I also don't find any continues rhythm on that part in order for it to be jumps on same DS with 1 circle being in one place all the time even though it sounds differently each time.
01:05:828 (3) - why not add 2 kicksliders instead of this.
01:06:518 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these kind of beats should be 4 per combo.
01:12:293 (2) - there is no sound here
01:12:638 - random ignore of a 5stack.
01:16:260 (2,4) - there are no beats here..
they are here! 01:15:397 - 01:15:570 - 01:16:087 -
01:21:690 (1,2,3,4,5) - if on such high pitched sounds you cannot find actual sounds in 25% or 50% or 75% slow motion this is considered overmap.
01:11:173 (1,2,3,4,5) - anyways why did you start ignoring this beat in the rest of the section, you can't just follow different rhythm through out the section that sounds the same.
01:19:276 - feels weird if the slider doesnt end here
01:19:449 (2) - should end 01:19:794 - here or 01:19:707 - here
01:25:828 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - you can add jumps through the whole sections but just make major jumps when those kinds of sounds happen.
01:30:052 (2,4,6,8) - no sounds on these notes, check on slow motion if you're unsure about the sounds (on the bottom right), and be sure to delete the circles when you do, so the hitsounds wont confuse you.
01:53:673 (2,5) - no sounds here :(
01:54:880 (2,4) - no here
01:59:190 - ^
Okay i will stop mentioning where there are no sounds. You will need to revisit your map in slow motion to realize where are sounds on blue ticks and where they are not, i will now only mod other stuff.
01:44:793 (4) - make it into a 1/2 slider?
01:52:897 (4,6) - they are not connected in a way. (3) and (5) follow the same flow so should they!
02:06:000 (2,3,4) - I see no particular reason for this to be more jumpy than 02:06:517 (5,6,7,8) - , same rhythm.
02:07:897 (5,6,7,8) - I'd advise not starting a square pattern and actually ruin it with a jump, do anything except a square pattern if there will be change in spacing. (doesnt look good, and also uncomfortable to play)
02:10:312 (3,4) - maybe NC on (3)?
02:37:552 - this beat is really strong, i'd advise ending the reverse slider before it and adding a circle here.
02:46:173 (1,2,3) - bad structure and the only notes in the section that sound like this that are in same combo. My suggestion is to keep changing angle for this one 02:47:552 (3) - .
03:02:552 (2,3) - no reason for such increased spacing
03:06:173 (7,8) - jumps is way too close
03:08:414 (4,5,6) - spacing too big without a reason.
03:17:035 - too strong beat to ignore
03:21:259 - no reason to follow vocals out of nowhere after following a drum stream. 03:21:345 - this beat is way too strong 03:21:173 - and this one is also strong
03:23:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same rhythm different spacing, hm
03:43:070 - you can increase SV just for this slider for it to be more beautiful

I first played this map before going into an editor and i noticed a lot of rhythmical flaws, when i got into the editor all was clear. Overall this map has an interesting concept with a nice song but i could not enjoy it because of number of flaws in 1/4 rhythm, good luck ;v
Topic Starter
Plaudible

MaridiuS wrote:

ok here comes the mod from m4m.

Together
00:29:276 - I have no idea to what is the spinner snapped. All sounds that it could be snapped still continue or ended 4 white ticks before. Not many other places I can snap it without removing it completely, which I'd rather not do. Please let me know if you have any ideas where I could snap it.
00:30:311 (1) - Can you place it at x314 y281. The way it is placed looks unpleasant since it is not blanketed. Whoops! Thought I blanketed. Blanketed! :))
00:36:173 (1) - I think that the end of slider should not be like that. The vocal doesn't really spike but it kinda gives a feel that it changes direction, my suggestion: http://puu.sh/pQWn8/26dde9541e.jpg it even blankets the next slider :) Agreed! Lot better, fixed.
00:48:845 - there is no beat here ? Think there is, pretty sure this is fine.
00:49:967 (1) - There isn't a real reason to make it 1/1, there is no such tone that it follows. Simply reduce it to 1/2 and add a circle on the next white tick. Whoops! Fixed, thanks
00:49:104 (3,4,5) - why is the spacing here larger than 00:47:726 (2,3,4,5,6) - Flows better with the kickslider coming up as a "landing" spot, when played it'll feel better to land on it. If it's closer it may make players overshoot it.
00:51:864 (5) - why do people like sliders on red tick that don't have a really strong rhythm ;v, I"d advise putting it on the white tick before this and make a 3stack of the 2stack which happened after this slider. Sorry! Agreed, change was a lot better and fits the ticks before the next measure. I made it a 2 stack on the slider making it a 3 stack, ending on a 4 note stream burst into the next measure. :)
00:53:845 - 00:54:018 - why not make a stream with these two blue ticks, they clearly have a beat, even stronger than usual 3rd white tick dnb songs. Could even be kicksliders, or increased spacing stream. Disagree with the stream part, but I love the idea of a kickslider! I mapped like this: http://puu.sh/pRkbn/431d87b20b.jpg The first blue tick I didn't find really necessary to put something on. But the second blue tick having something mapped sounds a lot better! Also, this made me fix this: 00:54:621 (1) into a 5 stream burst, fit better as I played it, hehe. ty :)
Actually, why do you ignore those sounds in the whole section, they are rather audible and no reason not to follow. Fixed most~
or this 00:57:638 - sounds I didn't do the first beat after the first finish since the sound clashes a lot. The first finish rings out and covers it, should be okay.
01:00:311 (5,7) - i think it would look smoother if they weren't touching. Part of the pattern.
00:58:242 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you even ignored the 3rd white tick 5stack. I also don't find any continues rhythm on that part in order for it to be jumps on same DS with 1 circle being in one place all the time even though it sounds differently each time. I can't do stream bursts every time it plays in the music! :( Map would be too similar. I just did it to the bass instead for these jumps. If I mapped it all to the DnB, it would be boring to play.
01:05:828 (3) - why not add 2 kicksliders instead of this. ? I'd need more than 2 if I made them all kicksliders, I feel this follows the beat better. Will consider for future changes, though.
01:06:518 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these kind of beats should be 4 per combo. They're 1-2 jumps, common pattern, don't think I have to but if someone else brings it up I'll change it.
01:12:293 (2) - there is no sound here Pretty sure this one is fine as well, but I'll change if it's overmapping. It fits the general feel of the map better though, same for the first one.
01:12:638 - random ignore of a 5stack. Good catch, thanks! Mapped as 5 stack and blanketed around 01:13:069 (9)
01:16:260 (2,4) - there are no beats here..
they are here! 01:15:397 - 01:15:570 - 01:16:087 - Thanks! Made the slider go into a 5 note burst and got rid of the stream before, making it a small jump.
01:21:690 (1,2,3,4,5) - if on such high pitched sounds you cannot find actual sounds in 25% or 50% or 75% slow motion this is considered overmap. Tried a small jump pattern, still don't know if it fits better... I'll put it for now, but if it continues to play awkwardly I'll revert it.
01:11:173 (1,2,3,4,5) - anyways why did you start ignoring this beat in the rest of the section, you can't just follow different rhythm through out the section that sounds the same. Fixed rest of section.
01:19:276 - feels weird if the slider doesnt end here Used to have it there, was experimenting. Fixed!
01:19:449 (2) - should end 01:19:794 - here or 01:19:707 - here Sure
01:25:828 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - you can add jumps through the whole sections but just make major jumps when those kinds of sounds happen. No thanks, these 1-2 jumps aren't very hard to hit in their nature, and I like the way they follow melody.
01:30:052 (2,4,6,8) - no sounds on these notes, check on slow motion if you're unsure about the sounds (on the bottom right), and be sure to delete the circles when you do, so the hitsounds wont confuse you. I'd really rather keep a stream to end the section here if possible. If it's a repeated issue I'll remove it, but I like it the way it is.
01:53:673 (2,5) - no sounds here :( Accepted 5 Kept 2
01:54:880 (2,4) - no here Keep
01:59:190 - ^ Bruh if I go 100% by the sound there's 0 variation, especially with a DnB song. I can't make everything the same.
Okay i will stop mentioning where there are no sounds. You will need to revisit your map in slow motion to realize where are sounds on blue ticks and where they are not, i will now only mod other stuff. I'm gonna keep it as it is for now, because it doesn't seem like too much a problem. Being a DnB song if I made it all to the bass or drum ticks the map would be very repetitive and unfun to play unless I made very specific patterns constantly. I'm going to leave it as it is for now. Again, if it's a repeat issue, I'll consider changes.
01:44:793 (4) - make it into a 1/2 slider? Goes better with previous slider, gonna leave as is for now, but will consider changes.
01:52:897 (4,6) - they are not connected in a way. (3) and (5) follow the same flow so should they! Not necessarily :) it flows better to the slider on top, not an issue.
02:06:000 (2,3,4) - I see no particular reason for this to be more jumpy than 02:06:517 (5,6,7,8) - , same rhythm. It is same rhythm, but vocals go from high to low.
02:07:897 (5,6,7,8) - I'd advise not starting a square pattern and actually ruin it with a jump, do anything except a square pattern if there will be change in spacing. (doesnt look good, and also uncomfortable to play) Think it's fine, I've had multiple testers say they think this jump is good.
02:10:312 (3,4) - maybe NC on (3)? Haha, I know this goes against my 1-2 jump logic, and I may revert this. But I like the way the follow points make the X shape and it looks pleasant, I'm gonna keep on this one. :)
02:37:552 - this beat is really strong, i'd advise ending the reverse slider before it and adding a circle here. I'd have to change the rest as well, and it felt awkward to play like that. I think this works.
02:46:173 (1,2,3) - bad structure and the only notes in the section that sound like this that are in same combo. My suggestion is to keep changing angle for this one 02:47:552 (3) - . Monstrata doesn't get bugged for doing this, does he? :( Angle same, but thanks for the NC check, NC for all 3 now! :)
03:02:552 (2,3) - no reason for such increased spacing It's a pattern, it's fine.
03:06:173 (7,8) - jumps is way too close Slight adjustment, it was a bit close. Flows better now, thanks~
03:08:414 (4,5,6) - spacing too big without a reason. ? Mistake? It's a triple, not spaced much.
03:17:035 - too strong beat to ignore It leads to 1-2 jumps, it's fine.
03:21:259 - no reason to follow vocals out of nowhere after following a drum stream. 03:21:345 - this beat is way too strong 03:21:173 - and this one is also strong There is no strong beats there, lol
03:23:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same rhythm different spacing, hm I would accept this, but it's a proponent for the SD and moving it closer drops it below 5.25, making the icon an Insane star instead of an Extra star. I'll make the spacing on the other one a bit bigger to match, so it's kinda accepted? XD
03:43:070 - you can increase SV just for this slider for it to be more beautiful Done!

I first played this map before going into an editor and i noticed a lot of rhythmical flaws, when i got into the editor all was clear. Overall this map has an interesting concept with a nice song but i could not enjoy it because of number of flaws in 1/4 rhythm, good luck ;v
Sorry I rejected a lot of changes, but the ones I accepted were significantly helpful to making it better. A lot of the issues I had with this difficulty were fixed by this, and many of those changes accepted helped to fix other changes. (Whew, that's a lot of red! >_<) Again, some changes I will consider and accept if they become an issue later. Thanks so much!
Topic Starter
Plaudible
After MaridiuS's mod, realized lots of stuff felt kinda misplaced. Lots of fixes and changes to flow and blanketing/positioning. The second half I made minimal changes, though will probably change in the future. Please check it out, really happy with it~
MaridiuS
in case u forgot something..and recheck
2016-07-08 00:29 MaridiuS: heyo
2016-07-08 00:30 MaridiuS: it seems like my mod impacted your map a lot
2016-07-08 00:30 MaridiuS: glad that i got through ;3
2016-07-08 00:30 Plaudible: supp
2016-07-08 00:30 Plaudible: yeaa :D thanks
2016-07-08 00:30 Plaudible: you see the changes?
2016-07-08 00:31 MaridiuS: hm
2016-07-08 00:31 MaridiuS: i did not
2016-07-08 00:31 MaridiuS: i'll testplay it now
2016-07-08 00:31 Plaudible: i still need some more rhythm changes later in the song
2016-07-08 00:31 Plaudible: but the first kiai and intro should be good now
2016-07-08 00:32 MaridiuS: omg
2016-07-08 00:32 MaridiuS: much better
2016-07-08 00:33 Plaudible: sweet
2016-07-08 00:35 Plaudible: i made this map like a month ago when i first started mapping entirely
2016-07-08 00:35 Plaudible: and some parts i didnt update too much XD
2016-07-08 00:35 Plaudible: so it's looking a lot better now
2016-07-08 00:38 MaridiuS: yeah the second half still needs fixing
2016-07-08 00:38 MaridiuS: the first one was enjoyable
2016-07-08 00:39 Plaudible: mostly rhythmic or style change?
2016-07-08 00:40 MaridiuS: rhythmic
2016-07-08 00:40 MaridiuS: also 01:29:966 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2016-07-08 00:40 MaridiuS: i strongly insist for it not to be a stream
2016-07-08 00:40 MaridiuS: in slow motion 25% there are clearly no beats on blue ticks
2016-07-08 00:42 Plaudible: aww ok
2016-07-08 00:42 Plaudible: maybe i'll just do a fancy few sliders to go with the vocals
2016-07-08 00:43 MaridiuS: the only viable slider is a kickslider on this beat
2016-07-08 00:43 MaridiuS: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/988674 Rameses B - We Love [Together]]
2016-07-08 00:43 MaridiuS: oops
2016-07-08 00:43 MaridiuS: 01:30:483 (7) -
2016-07-08 00:45 Plaudible: i just did sliders
2016-07-08 00:45 Plaudible: started at 01:29:966 (1)
2016-07-08 00:45 Plaudible: ends on next white tick
2016-07-08 00:45 Plaudible: another one 01:30:483
2016-07-08 00:45 Plaudible: then a hitcircle at 01:31:345 (3) -
2016-07-08 00:47 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/pTXHd/9cdbf69c68.jpg
2016-07-08 00:47 MaridiuS: this would be my suggestion ;v
2016-07-08 00:48 MaridiuS: since pitch changes on this beat
2016-07-08 00:48 MaridiuS: 01:31:000 (5) -
2016-07-08 00:48 Plaudible: hmm
2016-07-08 00:48 Plaudible: heres what i tried
2016-07-08 00:48 Plaudible: http://puu.sh/pTXKK/6a5cc2ed83.jpg
2016-07-08 00:48 MaridiuS: no no
2016-07-08 00:49 MaridiuS: there should be a stream on these notes
2016-07-08 00:49 MaridiuS: 01:30:655 (1) -
2016-07-08 00:49 MaridiuS: from here to
2016-07-08 00:49 MaridiuS: 01:30:655 (1) -
2016-07-08 00:49 MaridiuS: oops
2016-07-08 00:49 MaridiuS: 01:31:345 -
2016-07-08 00:49 Plaudible: oh
2016-07-08 00:49 Plaudible: kk
2016-07-08 00:49 MaridiuS: since the pitch changes on here 01:31:001 - you can do something like this:
2016-07-08 00:50 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/pTXUJ/1c524244a7.jpg
2016-07-08 00:51 Plaudible: hmm
2016-07-08 00:51 Plaudible: im gonna put slider at 01:29:966 (1) -
2016-07-08 00:51 Plaudible: then kick slider and stream where you put it
2016-07-08 00:51 Plaudible: and the end note of stream ends as a blanket for the slider
2016-07-08 00:51 Plaudible: which is blanketed around 01:29:621 (3) -
2016-07-08 00:53 MaridiuS: works good
2016-07-08 00:55 MaridiuS: one more thing
2016-07-08 00:55 MaridiuS: this beat here 03:17:035 -
2016-07-08 00:55 MaridiuS: should no doubt have a circle
2016-07-08 00:55 MaridiuS: that beat sounds as strong as 03:16:862 (3,4) -
2016-07-08 00:56 Plaudible: ?
2016-07-08 00:56 Plaudible: between 3 and 4 not 2 and 3?
2016-07-08 00:56 MaridiuS: yes
2016-07-08 00:56 MaridiuS: because between 3 and 4
2016-07-08 00:56 MaridiuS: there is a strong drum hit
2016-07-08 00:57 MaridiuS: an all those beats follow drum
2016-07-08 00:57 MaridiuS: http://puu.sh/pTYgx/711c6c2a7d.jpg
2016-07-08 00:57 Plaudible: hmm
2016-07-08 00:57 Plaudible: i put that there
2016-07-08 00:57 Plaudible: sounds weird :(
2016-07-08 00:58 MaridiuS: how does it sound weird ;
2016-07-08 00:58 MaridiuS: when that sound between 3 and 4
2016-07-08 00:58 MaridiuS: is identical to 3
2016-07-08 00:58 MaridiuS: or 4
2016-07-08 00:59 MaridiuS: oh god
2016-07-08 00:59 MaridiuS: i'm gonna need to tell you something about hitsounding tomorro
2016-07-08 00:59 MaridiuS: now i gtg sleep xd
2016-07-08 00:59 Plaudible: :[
2016-07-08 01:00 MaridiuS: i've finally found out
2016-07-08 01:00 Plaudible: :[
2016-07-08 01:00 MaridiuS: why tapping was weird
2016-07-08 01:01 Plaudible: why not now? :U
2016-07-08 01:01 MaridiuS: ugh
2016-07-08 01:01 MaridiuS: okay
2016-07-08 01:01 MaridiuS: so basically
2016-07-08 01:01 MaridiuS: you will need to put new hitsounds even
2016-07-08 01:01 MaridiuS: let me check other difficulties of this map
2016-07-08 01:02 Plaudible: but why ;_;
2016-07-08 01:02 MaridiuS: is liddell
2016-07-08 01:02 MaridiuS: your mentor
2016-07-08 01:02 MaridiuS: or something?
2016-07-08 01:03 Plaudible: nope
2016-07-08 01:05 MaridiuS: okay
2016-07-08 01:05 MaridiuS: my doubts have been confirmed
2016-07-08 01:05 MaridiuS: no offense but... hitsounding is all wrong :(
2016-07-08 01:06 Plaudible: how so? :o
2016-07-08 01:06 MaridiuS: well
2016-07-08 01:06 MaridiuS: clap should be used on hits like these:
2016-07-08 01:06 MaridiuS: 01:10:311 (8) -
2016-07-08 01:06 MaridiuS: 01:11:000 (4) -
2016-07-08 01:06 MaridiuS: 01:11:690 (6) -
2016-07-08 01:06 MaridiuS: 01:12:380 (3,9) -
2016-07-08 01:07 MaridiuS: basically check this out
2016-07-08 01:07 MaridiuS: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/974422 Rameses B - We Love]
2016-07-08 01:07 MaridiuS: for hitsounding how it's done
2016-07-08 01:07 MaridiuS: its much easier for you to see than for me to explain ;v
2016-07-08 01:07 Plaudible: oh i dont mind changing hitsounds
2016-07-08 01:07 Plaudible: its my favorite part of mapping
2016-07-08 01:08 MaridiuS: well you will need to rehitsound
2016-07-08 01:08 MaridiuS: the whole map
2016-07-08 01:08 MaridiuS: xd
2016-07-08 01:09 MaridiuS: well that's it for me
2016-07-08 01:10 MaridiuS: if you have any more questions ask me when u see me online
2016-07-08 01:10 MaridiuS: now i go sleep
2016-07-08 01:10 MaridiuS: zz
2016-07-08 01:10 Plaudible: oh
2016-07-08 01:10 Plaudible: wait
2016-07-08 01:10 Plaudible: hold on
2016-07-08 01:10 Plaudible: so i have clap on the white ticks
2016-07-08 01:10 Plaudible: and then use whistle/finish to add to the song?
2016-07-08 01:10 MaridiuS: no not on every white tick
2016-07-08 01:10 Plaudible: and changing is easy
2016-07-08 01:10 MaridiuS: notice on which drum hits
2016-07-08 01:10 MaridiuS: should hitsound be
2016-07-08 01:11 MaridiuS: and you also have some drum heavy clap hitsound or something
2016-07-08 01:11 Plaudible: oh
2016-07-08 01:11 MaridiuS: so u will need to fix that
2016-07-08 01:11 MaridiuS: whistle mostly on some red ticks
2016-07-08 01:11 Plaudible: what should i change it to ,tho
2016-07-08 01:11 MaridiuS: check out united
2016-07-08 01:11 MaridiuS: or the map i gave u
2016-07-08 01:11 MaridiuS: or my map which basically uses united clap and finish
2016-07-08 01:11 MaridiuS: xd
2016-07-08 01:11 Plaudible: xD
2016-07-08 01:12 Plaudible: kk i'll try to fix it today
2016-07-08 01:12 Plaudible: thanks :D
2016-07-08 01:12 MaridiuS: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/974422 Rameses B - We Love]
2016-07-08 01:12 MaridiuS: this is a ranked version of that song
2016-07-08 01:12 MaridiuS: cya
lazygirl
Hey from my modding queuefor NM :)

General:

Great mapset :) I don't have much to say that you should fix on all the difficulties, so I will just go in detail on each individually

Easy:

01:43:760 (3,4) - Not perfectly aligned but nothing major
03:49:276 (3) - You could split this into 3 sliders as the voices changes tone, but this is fine
04:17:898 (3,1,2,3) - this is weird, when there are more notes you have one continuous slider, and when it's only echo you have more hitobjects. I'd reverse it :p

Overall great mapping, slider design is excellent, flow and blanketting done as they should rythmically perfect too

Vanilla's Normal:

00:36:173 (1) - I think the spinner is better at 41:690 than here, this should be a slider imo ^^
01:19:621 (3) - this slider end where the voice starts, it's a bit weird, but then again normal diffs shouldn't have off rythms like those so it's ok like this
02:12:207 (6,7) - I find it weird that there are no stacked note up until this point, feels out of place
02:41:001 (2,3) - not perfectly alligned
02:47:207 (4) - why is there nothing after this? The music continues like before I think it should go on like before
03:05:138 (1,2) - this is almost perfectly aligned, but not quite
03:08:759 (3,4) - and this too

Other than that the diff is great :) Nice slider design, rythm and flow.

Advanced:

00:54:104 (1,2,3,4) - this might look better with the single notes a little offset like on 00:55:483 (1,2) -
01:03:759 (1) - I don't see the reason why you put a spinner here, feels out of place imo
01:36:863 (1) - you could leave a break here, would fit better imo
01:42:380 (1,2,3) - this might be a little too slow? It's slower even than the lower diffs
02:13:070 (3,4) - note missing between there, make the slider one longer imo
02:14:104 (6,7) - same
03:28:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe a little hard for the difficulty level of the map

I like this one less than the lower diffs, the flow is not as good, sliders are less unique.

Hobbes2's Hard:

01:27:552 (2,6) - sliders curve maybe a little too much here looks weird
01:28:932 (2,3,4) - not very beautiful imo ^^ looks better aligned
01:43:759 (3) - Long slider but there's a lot happening in the song, feels a little off (it does follow the voices though)
02:15:311 (5,1) - I don't see the reason for the increase in spacing, continuing the pattern would look nicer imo
03:37:552 (3,4,5) - 03:38:932 (3,4,5) - 03:40:311 (3,4,5) - spacing is maybe a bit high here

this is my favorite difficulty in the mapset ^^ Like it a lot overall. Nice flow, mostly consistent patterns, slider design is good.

TeeJoe's Insane:

01:11:173 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe a bit hard to read, scale down the last two notes imo :)
02:38:070 (4,5) - I think this'd be better as one slider, i don't see why this rythm was chosen (all those similar in the section too), play wise it's fine, but it's a little overmapped I feel ^^
03:21:001 (5,6,7) - might be better with a slider

Few things I didn't like about this difficulty, very well mapped ^^

-Liddell's Insane:

00:25:138 (1) - maybe split in two? the slider looks really nice so it'd be a bit sad, but the voice change tone
00:37:552 (1) - this doesn't start on a change of tone but the tone changes in the middle, I'd change this
01:19:621 (6,7,8,1) - looks weird, i'd stack it differently
02:52:725 (6) - this might be better continuing like before
02:56:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Long stream compared to the rest, maybe a few kicksliders would fit more here
03:38:242 (1,2,3,4) - angles look weird on this, move 4 maybe more to the right
04:25:138 (1) - one more note at the begging of the spinner then the spinner, might be better

I'm not going to mod the Together diff (sorry) it's a little out of my league.

Overall very nice mapset. This definitely deserves ranking. The hitsounds are great, overall on all diffs flow is nice, slider design is great, rythm are fun to play and the difficulty spread's cool :) Good luck for all that follows ^^
Topic Starter
Plaudible

lazyboy007 wrote:

Hey from my modding queuefor NM :)

General:

Great mapset :) I don't have much to say that you should fix on all the difficulties, so I will just go in detail on each individually

Easy:

01:43:760 (3,4) - Not perfectly aligned but nothing major Fixed!
03:49:276 (3) - You could split this into 3 sliders as the voices changes tone, but this is fine Fixed!
04:17:898 (3,1,2,3) - this is weird, when there are more notes you have one continuous slider, and when it's only echo you have more hitobjects. I'd reverse it :p
Agreed, though I simply just made the second a slider as well, hehe. Sexy blanket is sexy http://puu.sh/pX0tl/85d533c3c7.jpg
Overall great mapping, slider design is excellent, flow and blanketting done as they should rythmically perfect too Thanks! :D

Advanced:

00:54:104 (1,2,3,4) - this might look better with the single notes a little offset like on 00:55:483 (1,2) -
01:03:759 (1) - I don't see the reason why you put a spinner here, feels out of place imo
01:36:863 (1) - you could leave a break here, would fit better imo
01:42:380 (1,2,3) - this might be a little too slow? It's slower even than the lower diffs
02:13:070 (3,4) - note missing between there, make the slider one longer imo
02:14:104 (6,7) - same
03:28:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe a little hard for the difficulty level of the map

I like this one less than the lower diffs, the flow is not as good, sliders are less unique. Yeah, I know this map is really bad lmao I can only map easy or insane+. I'm just going to scrap this difficulty and get a GD at this point I think, don't feel like re-mapping or learning how to map it, but thanks! :)


Overall very nice mapset. This definitely deserves ranking. The hitsounds are great, overall on all diffs flow is nice, slider design is great, rythm are fun to play and the difficulty spread's cool :) Good luck for all that follows ^^
Thanks so much!
lazygirl

Plaudible wrote:

lazyboy007 wrote:

I like this one less than the lower diffs, the flow is not as good, sliders are less unique. Yeah, I know this map is really bad lmao I can only map easy or insane+. I'm just going to scrap this difficulty and get a GD at this point I think, don't feel like re-mapping or learning how to map it, but thanks! :)
If you need a GD, I can make one soon, I'm about to finish one map, so I'll be free soon :) I think tomorrow :p
Topic Starter
Plaudible

lazyboy007 wrote:

If you need a GD, I can make one soon, I'm about to finish one map, so I'll be free soon :) I think tomorrow :p
Crap, sorry, just saw this post. D: Got it from someone else, but I really appreciate the offer, thanks!




Advanced difficulty scrapped, can't map 2-3 kek. Sonnyc's Advanced GD!~
Izzywing
Hobbes2's Hard:

01:27:552 (2,6) - sliders curve maybe a little too much here looks weird Fixed
01:28:932 (2,3,4) - not very beautiful imo ^^ looks better aligned fixed[/b
01:43:759 (3) - Long slider but there's a lot happening in the song, feels a little off (it does follow the voices though) [b]I wanted to keep this part simple.

02:15:311 (5,1) - I don't see the reason for the increase in spacing, continuing the pattern would look nicer imo emphasis C:
03:37:552 (3,4,5) - 03:38:932 (3,4,5) - 03:40:311 (3,4,5) - spacing is maybe a bit high here Ay, did that in purpose for flow.

this is my favorite difficulty in the mapset ^^ Like it a lot overall. Nice flow, mostly consistent patterns, slider design is good. Thank you! This means a lot to me.
a single confetti is a confetto
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lazygirl

Plaudible wrote:

lazyboy007 wrote:

If you need a GD, I can make one soon, I'm about to finish one map, so I'll be free soon :) I think tomorrow :p
Crap, sorry, just saw this post. D: Got it from someone else, but I really appreciate the offer, thanks!




Advanced difficulty scrapped, can't map 2-3 kek. Sonnyc's Advanced GD!~
rip then haha. Doesn't matter, if you ever need a GD in the 2-4*5 domain you can contact me on my GD/modding queue :p
Topic Starter
Plaudible
ty for 3 stars! (/^_^)/
Topic Starter
Plaudible
Map is on hiatus til SonnyC finishes GD, modding will continue then~
-Liddell

Naxess wrote:

M4M From Queue

[ -Liddell's Insane]
SPOILER
00:25:138 (1) - Really like this, gj ty for that :)

00:25:138 - Consider reducing the volume of hitsounds from here to 00:38:932 - , those sliderticks are a bit loud in comparison with the song.
Try increasing the volume over this time period from like 15% up to about 40%, as a kind of build up, matching the song. 15-30 8-)

00:48:587 - I'd recommend keeping downbeats (large white ticks on the timeline) clickable, since they're often stronger beats and lifting your finger on them wouldn't make sense imo. It also allows the player a point of reference to the rhythm, since downbeats lead into new measures. Plus you can NC the new measures properly by making the downbeats clickable. seems fine imo
^ You could also use this opportunity to create a pattern throughout these parts,
for example mapping all of these sounds 00:47:207 - 00:48:070 - 00:48:587 - as clickables and continue doing so.
^ 00:51:345 -
^ 00:52:207 - could be done like this:

^ 00:54:104 -
^ 00:56:345 - to follow the pattern.
^ 00:57:725 - seems you completely missed this one... yup. turned it into returning slider
^ 01:06:518 -
^ 01:07:380 -

01:07:897 (5) - NC, new measure and distinct sound. the NC feels off :<

01:08:759 - 01:08:932 - These two could be mapped as circles, where the last one is stacked or overlapping 01:09:276 (1) - , as a kind of anti-jump, giving a brief pause. nice nice


01:10:483 (1,2,3) - It's probably not a very good idea to place a triple right before a downbeat, unless the last circle is a slider, because it takes away from the emphasization and fails to reflect the song.
For this whole part around 01:11:087 - , consider something like:


I'll continue the strong beat list here (consider making them clickable):
01:12:897 -
01:13:759 - not like the ones I've pointed out previously, but still a strong beat regardless.
01:15:138 -
01:15:656 -
01:17:035 - for example, around here it doesn't make sense that these are not clickable, but the same sound at 01:16:173 - is.
01:18:414 -
01:21:173 -
01:22:552 -
01:23:932 - you seem to have a consistent pattern going on with them, which is a good sign for your rhythm, but they are still the same sounds that are on the downbeats, which are mostly clickable. Refer to 01:23:070 - 01:21:690 - 01:20:311 - etc. So keeping these as slider ends will mean the sounds and map are inconsistent, which you should avoid at all costs.
01:25:311 - there's also potential other sounds that you could make use of that are before the stronger beat such as 01:25:138 - , but currently they are rolled over by a 1/1 slider.
01:44:621 -
01:55:656 -
01:57:035 -
01:58:932 -
02:03:932 -
Well, you get the idea.

01:19:104 (2,3,4,6,7,8) - In one of the streams, the strong beat is on the beginning and in the other it's at the end, which sort of breaks the player's connection to that sound and the map itself by failing to emphasize it. Consider changing this pattern so the strong beats are more defined. seems fine

01:23:155 (2) - From what I can hear, there isn't a sound here. Consider removing the note. It'd probably be better if all of these 01:23:069 (1,2,3) - where a 1/2 slider instead, since slider's emphasize sounds better, because of the inherited hold requirement. donezo

01:29:966 (1,1,1) - Just a suggestion, but you could map these as 1/4 sliders and a longer one to differentiate them from previous measures.
orig seems fine. will keep it as circles for now

01:50:052 (3) - Can't hear this either; seems like overmapping. donezo
^ 02:06:949 (5) - Seems like you're trying to follow the 02:05:052 - sounds, but I'm afraid I can't hear them here. removed the triples

02:09:276 - Will get really confusing if this isn't mapped because of the spacing. added a note at 02:09:276 (3)

02:38:414 - 02:39:794 - 02:41:173 - I feel like these can be mapped as well. See no reason to ignore them. uhm orig seems fine

I'll stop here.
I'd suggest you work a bit on rhythm. Listen to which notes need to be emphasized and reflect the song appropriately.
(for some mapping theory about rhythm, take a look at the mod for the Advanced difficulty)

Also listen closely to the song when placing notes. If you can't hear them at 25% speed after removing the note, then you'd likely want to keep it removed, and this isn't just because it's not heard when listening closely at 25% speed, it's also for the sake of consistency.
If you can't hear a note in one place, then there's likely parallel places where the note isn't heard, which means you might accidentally notice, that there isn't a sound on those ticks, later on, which will lead to your map being inconsistent in what is mapped and what isn't.
Basically: Overmapping is often bad, avoid it unless you know exactly what you're doing and can give strong arguments for keeping the notes.

I really appreciate the mod since it's really helpful but I can't seem to accept the fact that my diff is off in rhythm since the slider-triple style stuff I made was from other Rameses B maps that I played. I also have some friends who played the diff and they told me the diff seems fine but yeah, some points are actually a lil bit off. Will keep some of them for now, but if other modders will think that what I made was pretty sh*t, then I guess I have to change it then.

Good luck!

lazyboy007 wrote:

Hey from my modding queuefor NM :)



-Liddell's Insane:

SPOILER
00:25:138 (1) - maybe split in two? the slider looks really nice so it'd be a bit sad, but the voice change tone orig seems fine imo
00:37:552 (1) - this doesn't start on a change of tone but the tone changes in the middle, I'd change this will keep orig for consistency with the first one. i pretty much mapped the intro not by vocals so yeah
01:19:621 (6,7,8,1) - looks weird, i'd stack it differently stacked 1 at the triples before it :D
02:52:725 (6) - this might be better continuing like before uhm continuing like before? didn't get your point there O.o
02:56:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Long stream compared to the rest, maybe a few kicksliders would fit more here A long stream (which is basically spaced really close to each other) won't hurt that much at a 4* diff. It's also a good build up for the chorus! :)
03:38:242 (1,2,3,4) - angles look weird on this, move 4 maybe more to the right oh yes oh yes it flows better now :3
04:25:138 (1) - one more note at the begging of the spinner then the spinner, might be better donezo~

Overall very nice mapset. This definitely deserves ranking. The hitsounds are great, overall on all diffs flow is nice, slider design is great, rythm are fun to play and the difficulty spread's cool :) Good luck for all that follows ^^
Topic Starter
Plaudible
Would love to see some SB action if anyone's willing! TeeJoe and Sonnyc still need to finish GDs, so stilll on pause til then.
Izzywing
im remappin get hype
Topic Starter
Plaudible

Hobbes2 wrote:

im remappin get hype
i was like wtf that e-mail doesnt say ignite what is this

sweet :D gonna be working on this difficulty soonTM too
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