Iori Nomizu - miele paradiso · forum

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-07-21T02:54:46+00:00

不用哇我只是回應一下吐槽
這個BG感覺有點ahegao 比上次的更危險哈

Misure

952 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2016-07-21T05:08:46+00:00

好的我记住啦kira☆

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,108 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-07-21T07:48:09+00:00

M4M

[Taeyang's Extra]

00:03:052 (1,2) - ill change 2 to kick either cuz imo is a better way to express the cymbol sound here
00:26:063 (1) - this slider need more emphasized, try to make the spacing bigger
00:34:756 (3,1) - 00:37:484 (3,1) - 1/1 spacing here is too small and inconsistent
01:07:654 (1) - unnecessary nc

[StarR's Insane]

00:03:052 (1) - 也改2個note吧 slider感覺不能好好表達cymbol
00:14:984 (3) - nc for consistent
00:50:438 (1) - 建議這邊不要nc 會讓玩家誤讀因為你這部分1/1跟1/2的間距很像而你nc又nc在1/1的間距上
01:17:370 (1) - 這感覺不用nc 沒甚麼音要強調的.
01:22:143 (1) - 這一定有比轉盤更好的選擇吧... 這個轉盤太突然=w=

[Insane]

00:10:381 (3) - 建議擺到20 316 比較有感覺
00:16:177 (3) - 可nc
00:24:870 - 我覺得你這邊要1/1的話不如用4個notes 2個1/1滑條的壞處是讓中間有個很奇怪的pause( 00:25:211 - 00:25:552 - ) 玩起來會很奇怪
00:32:029 (2) - nc for consistent
00:36:120 (2,3,4) - 這flow我覺得有點卡我建議把00:36:631 (4,6) - 移到 224 85 這樣順多了xd
00:43:620 (1) - inconsistent nc 畢竟你在相似地方也沒nc所以我覺得這就不用了
00:46:177 (4) - 00:48:904 (4) - 如果你是要跟vocal的話把這個改成note會比較合如果你是在跟音樂的話你00:46:518 - 漏了音
00:55:893 (2) - 可nc
01:04:927 (3) - 01:15:836 (3) - 這沒跟到音樂阿改1/2滑條還比較好
01:23:506 (1) - 這裡絕對有比這滑條更好選擇吧=w= 不一定硬要跟vocal阿xd 這種滑條通常是在只剩vocal沒有音樂或只剩1個樂器在伴奏的情況下才會有的但是這邊並沒有所以我建議把這刪了跟音樂不用跟vocal

[Left's Insane]

lol the spread xd, im not saying is bad, actually this mapping style is good xd
00:39:700 (6,4) - meh =w=
00:42:768 (6) - NC for emphasized
00:47:370 (3,2) - nah...
00:53:336 (3) - lol NC here
01:05:950 (1) - not necessary nc imo, no sv change and no special sound to emphasized
01:13:450 (4,1) - almost

沙皇你的insane需要加強阿 owob

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-21T11:45:00+00:00

我觉得给皇的还好啊0.0
00:24:870 - 00:46:177 - 01:23:506 - 我觉得这几个地方还是可以保持。不过01:24:700 (2) - 这个倒是可以删，我觉得用滑条突出vocal之后非重音的话空掉更能起到突出前面vocal的作用

其他部分的话，00:03:052 (1,2,3) - 这里我觉得节奏ctrl+G更好，才两处没必要强行variation，那两个重音要重要得多
00:11:745 (2,3) - 00:11:745 (2,3) - 00:14:472 (2,3) - 这几处也是节奏ctrl+G好，更能突出乐器，这里远比鼓点重要（其他几个难度也全是3、3、2分组的）

@misure 第一个地方重音切断一下flow应该没有问题，第二个地方感觉现在这样更顺啊0.0，然后那个……有点难改，这次就这样吧23333最后一个fixed

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sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-21T13:33:15+00:00

Misure wrote:
hello here
[Insane]
00:04:756 (2,3) - 个人感觉ctrl+G更顺一些主要是后面这个滑条脑袋张这个样子的接起来前面锐角更顺是呀
00:14:984 (4,5,1) - 这几个为啥就不叠在00:13:620 (4) - 尾巴上而放了这个么overlap的位置...角度也有点尖我感觉这个还行啊。。1/4所以要overlap放两个圈，感觉还行ww 稍微改了点
00:33:052 (1,2) - 分别换向怎么样？个人想法随便参考哇好
00:43:450 (6) - 可以往上点吧这里节奏变化挺明显的先急后缓突出一下感觉？ k
01:13:450 (4) - 这个我感觉离前面近一些离后面远一些可能比较好恩
就这样其次请允许我郑重吐槽一下音效组88号这个设定
Besides, the new BG may be more NSFW than the old one LOL
Good luck!

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
M4M
[Insane]
00:10:381 (3) - 建議擺到20 316 比較有感覺试试看
00:16:177 (3) - 可nc 好的吧
00:24:870 - 我覺得你這邊要1/1的話不如用4個notes 2個1/1滑條的壞處是讓中間有個很奇怪的pause( 00:25:211 - 00:25:552 - ) 玩起來會很奇怪这个其实没什么问题。。这边不需要很塞满，而且后有连打这边缓冲，其实same for你最后提出的那个节奏。。我觉得跟vocal好因为这边缓冲了下，后面大跳，打起来挺有趣111
00:32:029 (2) - nc for consistent k
00:36:120 (2,3,4) - 這flow我覺得有點卡我建議把00:36:631 (4,6) - 移到 224 85 這樣順多了xd 这边稍微改了
00:43:620 (1) - inconsistent nc 畢竟你在相似地方也沒nc所以我覺得這就不用了恩
00:46:177 (4) - 00:48:904 (4) - 如果你是要跟vocal的話把這個改成note會比較合如果你是在跟音樂的話你00:46:518 - 漏了音这边比较随意，漏音慢一点感觉没什么？
00:55:893 (2) - 可nc 不想spam
01:04:927 (3) - 01:15:836 (3) - 這沒跟到音樂阿改1/2滑條還比較好 01:05:012 - 确实有音，跟也没什么=w= 先不要改
01:23:506 (1) - 這裡絕對有比這滑條更好選擇吧=w= 不一定硬要跟vocal阿xd 這種滑條通常是在只剩vocal沒有音樂或只剩1個樂器在伴奏的情況下才會有的但是這邊並沒有所以我建議把這刪了跟音樂不用跟vocal 前面说明了
沙皇你的insane需要加強阿 owob

@pata
01:24:700 (2) - 这边圈打起来也挺好的，而且后面那个跳在这边还是挺合曲子的，看看其他人意见吧
00:02:881 (6,1) - 不想连着三个圈而且现在这样没什么问题
最后那边是想类似00:11:915 (3,4) - 的三个排列保持consistent，而且对称性也强/不过你说的那种确实节奏可能下的更好？但是排列我暂时想不出比现在还要好的了，先放着吧

Nakano Itsuki

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Joined July 2014

Nakano Itsuki 2016-07-21T14:11:46+00:00

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Garden 00:49:586 (2) - 00:50:609 (2) - 這個部份我prefer用圈用滑條感覺沒分別

misure
00:05:438 (5) - no need
00:28:279 (4) - ctrl g候比較卡手
00:31:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 不想nc spam..
00:41:575 (2,3,4,1) - 不喜歡
01:22:143 (1) - 想不出其他梗

nino
00:14:984 (3) - no need
01:22:143 (1) - same as misure

fixed a couple of hitsounds from mochi's mod, thx!!!

g.

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Gust

Beatmap Nominator

522 posts

Joined December 2011

Gust 2016-07-22T17:12:25+00:00

[怕他神]
01:18:563 (2,3) - 合并成一个长slider可好？
01:24:018 (2,3) - 同

[给皇Insane]
00:20:438 (4,5) - 这个5我觉得没什么音支持下成note。。虽然打起来没问题
00:33:052 (1,2) - 00:33:563 - 这里是个强音，作为slider尾感觉不太合适，我的话应该会把1做成折返然后这里下note
00:27:511 (7,1) - 五连打的间距我倾向于统一一下。。
01:11:404 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 。。。nice work（可以无视
01:14:302 (2,5) - 不喜欢这种遮挡，xixi
01:22:654 (4,5) - 建议节奏ctrl+g比较符合vocal

给皇无敌

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-22T17:14:38+00:00

@fm
我不会放过这种第三拍上的重鼓点的
no change

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-23T00:13:29+00:00

Ultimate Madoka wrote:
[给皇Insane]
00:20:438 (4,5) - 这个5我觉得没什么音支持下成note。。虽然打起来没问题空着不舒服，。
00:33:052 (1,2) - 00:33:563 - 这里是个强音，作为slider尾感觉不太合适，我的话应该会把1做成折返然后这里下note 111现在这个两个滑条按起来更舒服
00:27:511 (7,1) - 五连打的间距我倾向于统一一下。。恩
01:11:404 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 。。。nice work（可以无视其实我改了下）
01:14:302 (2,5) - 不喜欢这种遮挡，xixi 全歌有许多这种1/2 overlap嘻嘻
01:22:654 (4,5) - 建议节奏ctrl+g比较符合vocal 01:22:825 (5,6) - 好看呗

给皇无敌

牛逼啊

CaffeAmericano

615 posts

Joined January 2015

CaffeAmericano 2016-07-23T05:00:36+00:00

Hi... M4M~!

Kwan’s Easy

00:31:006 (2,1) - Nazi blanket

01:26:234 (1) - I think this spinner is too short for target players

00:37:825 (4,1) - 00:25:552 (2,1) - 00:43:279 (3,1) - I didn't know you could use 1/2 beats for easy at this bpm Xp

Normal

00:08:506 (1,2) - 01:22:825 (1,2) - Nazi blanket mod

Pata-Mon’s Hard

00:25:552 (3,3) - Stack maybe?

00:41:915 (3,2,3) - I think this overlap can be avoided, and it would look neater when it is

00:39:188 (3,4) - 00:46:006 (4,5) - Small readability concern here. There are a lot of circles stacked to 1/2 beat sliders in the map, with 1/1 beat gaps between them (e.g. 00:33:393 (2,3) - 00:37:484 (2,3) - 00:41:234 (1,2) - 00:45:154 (1,2) - ) However, I think there’s only two ( 00:39:188 (3,4) - 00:46:006 (4,5) - 01:11:575 (2,3) - ) with 1/2 beat clicking. This trains players (at this level) to expect a 1/1 beat pause when seeing a slider like ( https://puu.sh/qbhzE/f2d38adee5.jpg ). Consider un-stacking 00:39:188 (3,4) - 00:46:006 (4,5) -

00:07:484 (2,3) - Jump here, but no jump at 00:29:302 (2,3) - ?

Left’s Insane

힛사 볼륨 수정해 주셔야 할 듯 :3

00:05:438 (1) - 위치를 (145,325) 로 옮겨서 00:04:586 (2,1) - 오버랩 피하고 00:04:586 (2,4,1) - 를 삼각형 만들면 어떨까요? 이 제안 괜찮으시면 00:04:586 (2,1) - 스택 하셔도 좋을 듯

00:22:057 - 00:55:779 - 00:56:148 - 01:05:864 - 01:06:035 - 01:06:290 - 여기 timing point 넣어서 힛사 5% 정도로 해 주는건 어떨까요

00:28:790 (1,2) - 같은 음 같은데 앞 부분 00:06:972 (1) - 이랑 다른 박자로 매핑 하신 의도를 잘 모르겠습니다

00:08:847 (2,3) - 00:30:665 (1,2) - ^

00:32:711 (2,1) - 00:39:700 (6,4) -스택 일부러 안 하신 건가요?

00:55:552 (3) - 슬라 테일 일부러 스냅을 00:55:779 - 에 하신건가요?

00:58:279 (4,5) - 01:09:188 (4,5) - 비슷한 음 같은데 일관성이 조금 없다고 보일수도…?

01:11:063 (1) - 강한 소리가 있는데 점프가 없는게 아쉽네요

Insane

00:06:120 (2,3) - blanket could be improved

00:08:336 (6,7,1) - I am not sure what your intention was for making this shape

00:10:722 (5,6) - I think these should have jumps like 00:32:711 (1,2) -

00:39:700 (1,4) - maybe stack these?

StaR’s Insane

Check wide screen support~

00:05:268 (4,5) - Blanket could be improved

00:07:484 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 00:29:302 (2,3,4,5) - I am not sure why the second part is so much easier

00:37:228 (2) - I am not sure a triple really fits the music

00:49:415 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - These jumps seem confusing to me. I think it will be more intuitive if 00:49:756 - and 00:50:779 - are mapped. Also, it will be a tiny improvement to remove overlaps at 00:49:415 (1,1,1) -

Nice mapset. Hope to see it ranked soon

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-23T05:16:58+00:00

CaffeAmericano wrote:
Pata-Mon’s Hard
00:25:552 (3,3) - Stack maybe? k

00:41:915 (3,2,3) - I think this overlap can be avoided, and it would look neater when it is there have been several beats before, I can't see overlap when playing

00:39:188 (3,4) - 00:46:006 (4,5) - Small readability concern here. There are a lot of circles stacked to 1/2 beat sliders in the map, with 1/1 beat gaps between them (e.g. 00:33:393 (2,3) - 00:37:484 (2,3) - 00:41:234 (1,2) - 00:45:154 (1,2) - ) However, I think there’s only two ( 00:39:188 (3,4) - 00:46:006 (4,5) - 01:11:575 (2,3) - ) with 1/2 beat clicking. This trains players (at this level) to expect a 1/1 beat pause when seeing a slider like ( https://puu.sh/qbhzE/f2d38adee5.jpg ). Consider un-stacking 00:39:188 (3,4) - 00:46:006 (4,5) - well, I think hard player should try to read this, because it's common in insane diff

00:07:484 (2,3) - Jump here, but no jump at 00:29:302 (2,3) - ? this jump is not so difficult, but hard to change, and I don't know how to change it so just keep
Nice mapset. Hope to see it ranked soon

thanks for mod

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Left

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Left 2016-07-23T14:36:42+00:00

Oh no

sahuang

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Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-23T14:44:45+00:00

Yes no
@CaffeAmericano all fixed

Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

390 posts

Joined March 2016

Naxess 2016-07-23T19:10:18+00:00

M4M with sahuang

[

Normal]

SPOILER

00:39:529 - I don't really agree with this not being mapped, and a repeat rolling over the drums at 00:39:188 - 00:39:359 - , but not 00:39:529 - .
I understand you're following vocal, but after following instruments in the previous section, 00:33:052 - , which also had vocal, it's sort of expected that the rhythms of the following section would retain some of this.
Consider moving this repeat forwards on the timeline, and then adding a circle like this, to emphasize 00:39:188 - better as well:

In case you think this rhythm is too dense for a normal, it is possible to simply remove the circle in between, in order to create a pattern that the player will recognize from previous patterns, 00:27:597 (1,2) - and 00:30:325 (1,2) - .

00:20:268 - Add a whistle here for consistency with 00:17:540 -

00:16:688 - 00:17:200 - 00:18:052 - 00:18:563 - I'd have placed claps on these.
^ 00:19:415 - 00:19:927 - 00:20:779 - 00:21:290 -

00:22:484 - 00:23:165 - 00:23:847 - 00:24:529 - 00:25:211 - adding some claps on these offbeats wouldn't really hurt, since you could increase the volume of 00:25:893 - in comparison if you felt it needed emphasization.

00:27:427 - Why is there a clap here but not on 00:27:086 - ?

00:29:131 - imo it feels really empty to not have anything on the drum-kicks in the song. Consider adding some drum-kick hitsound for these.

00:33:052 (1) - Why not place the red point in the middle to cover the drums better?

00:32:370 (5) - I really don't think the current whistle hs fits for what you're trying to make it reflect. From what I can see you're trying to use it to emphasize certain beats, but I think using a drum-like hitsound for that would work better, in the case of a background drum (which doesn't exist at 00:19:927 - , so default whistles are fine here I guess). Although this sort of breaks consistency with 00:29:131 - where I wanted you to place a drum-kick... The way you're using the whistles is, to be honest, quite confusing. Care to explain?
For now I won't be suggesting whistles unless something is inconsistent.

00:34:586 - Why isn't there a whistle here, but at 00:37:313 - ?
^ If you decide to add a whistle at that one instead of removing it from the other one, you may want to add whistles on similar sounds like 00:36:631 - as well.

00:37:825 - 00:38:336 - not going to clap these to reflect the song?

00:39:529 - By doing that other suggestion I gave, you can add a clap here.

00:41:915 - I'd normally say that you should add a whistle here, but again, I don't really know how you're placing whistles atm.

00:44:472 - Clapped this but not 00:47:200 -

00:48:904 - 00:46:177 - more hitsound inconsistencies
^ 00:46:347 - 00:49:075 -
^ 00:56:745 - 00:59:472 -
^ 01:01:006 - 00:58:279 -

00:51:461 - Add finish

01:05:950 - why is this not a clap while 01:06:461 - , which isn't either on an offbeat, is?

01:07:654 - depending on if you added whistles to the previous kiai at this position
^ 01:10:381 -

01:11:063 - Add finish for consistency with 01:08:336 -

01:16:518 - Add whistle for consistency with 01:13:790 -

01:22:484 - Missing clap
^ 01:23:847 -

Hitsounds could use some work, but the basis of the map is good.

I see now after looking at the other difficulties that hitsounds are likely copied,
so you should contact your GDers about these inconsistencies.

[

Pata-Mon's Hard]

SPOILER

It looks like hitsounds were copied, so you should speak with sahuang about making it consistent across the mapset.

00:11:148 - I'd have added a clap on this for consistency with the sound at 00:11:234 -

00:18:393 - Consider removing this whistle for consistency with 00:17:029 - 00:19:756 - .
I think it sounds better this way as well, since there's no double at 00:18:393 - 00:18:563 - .

00:22:484 - 00:23:165 - From this section you could place claps on the offbeats to cover those sounds. Up to you though.

00:38:336 - Not going to clap this like you did 00:38:165 - ?

01:22:484 - Missed clap
^ 01:23:847 -

01:27:427 (4,1) - Consider swapping the NC. (4) is a syncopated note, which is why it changes pitch and and is highlighted more than the downbeat.
For example 01:00:154 - is also syncopated, and has NC.

Minor NC and hitsounding. Rest looks fine.

[

Left's Insane]

SPOILER

00:13:620 (1,2) - Consider swapping NC. (2) is quite clearly more emphasized than (1), so I don't see why the combo would begin on (1).
It's also inconsistent with how 00:12:597 - is NCed.

I see hitsounds were copied, so I'll point out what I did in the other diffs.

01:22:484 - Missing clap
^ 01:23:847 -
^ 00:38:336 -
^ 00:11:148 -
^ 00:37:825 -
^ 00:38:336 -

00:51:461 - Missing finish
^ 01:11:063 - for consistency with 01:08:336 -

01:16:518 - Add whistle for consistency with 01:13:790 -

00:44:472 - Since this has a clap, you could also add one at 00:47:200 - , or remove, for consistency.

00:22:484 - 00:23:165 - From this section you could place claps on the offbeats to cover those sounds. Up to you though.

Depending on what your fellow GDers, or sahuang, did, you'd probably want to change these for consistency across the mapset.

Might've missed something, look at the mod for Normal about hitsounds, in your diff, unless you're planning to copy the hitsounds again.

Minor NC and some hitsounds. Looks pretty solid otherwise.

[

Insane]

SPOILER

00:11:745 (2,3) - I'd have swapped these on the timeline for better emphasization.
^ 00:13:109 (2,3) -
^ 00:14:472 (2,3) -
Just remember to fix hitsounds after swapping.

Nice

00:24:359 (5,6,7) - This doesn't look like a perfect trangle. ( rip 'i' )
Consider copy pasting the first one and rotating it a bit, like this, for example.

00:40:893 (4) - this blanket could be improved, just copy 00:40:211 (2) - and rotate it 120 for each of 00:40:211 (2,3,4) - for consistent shapes.

00:43:450 (6) - If you wanted to, you could NC this, because it's a distinct sound and transition to the next section of the song.

01:02:540 (4) - some more blanket stuff.

Just add another point like this,~~it'll be easier~~. LOL blanketing this is a pain

01:22:654 - So I feel like this part is sort of missing the emphasization at 01:22:995 - both with vocal and drums, so doing this will both cover drums and vocal at the same time.

01:24:529 - 01:26:234 - I'm usually against ending on strong beats, but whatever. It works I guess.

Another small note:
00:07:484 (2,5) - overlaps and stuff are ok with me, but they don't really look intentional atm with how they're placed.
00:08:506 (1,3) - Like this is quite different from that other one, which makes it look even less intentional.
Unintentional-looking overlaps usually result in people thinking they were a mistake, which lowers the overall quality of the map from their perspective.

01:22:484 - considering you're still missing claps and stuff, I'm going to assume you copied your hitsounds.
Refer to the mod on Normal about inconsistencies and missed claps and finishes or whatever.

00:11:148 - well, this is on a blue tick so maybe it wasn't pointed out in normal.
Basically add a clap here for consistency with the other sound at 00:11:234 - .

[

General]

SPOILER

Considering that KwaN is here, I guess checking tags would be sort of pointless.

soft-hitclap5.wav
drum-hitnormal5.wav
soft-sliderslide5.wav
Are currently unused, consider removing them unless you're going to use them.

Some of your soft sliderslides, soft-sliderslide88.wav and soft-sliderslide89.wav, are not acceptable blank files.

As you can see, these files currently have a length. Plus this length isn't even rankable for hitsounds, as it has to be over 100 ms.

osu!wiki, Ranking Criteria - Audio wrote:
Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards. If you want a silent/blank hitsound, then you must use a 0-byte .wav file.

Consider using the default blank, as linked in the quote from the RC.

Oh btw, there's an unsnapped circle in Taeyang's Extra at 00:28:451 (2) - .
With all the disqualifications about unsnapped objects going on, we'll want to avoid this happening here.

osu!wiki, Ranking Criteria - Timing wrote:
Your map must be perfectly timed. This means that your BPM and offset are spot-on, sliders end when they should, notes are generally following a recognizable rhythm (such as the lyrics or drums) which is comprehensible by a player, and that there are no unsnapped notes (you can check this by running AIMod (shortcut ctrl+shift+a) in the editor).

Um, why is Sonnyc's Extra missing?

If the difficulty was deleted, then, unless you're going to add it to the description as an external download, you should probably remove "Sonnyc" from the tags.

Good luck!

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-24T00:07:24+00:00

Naxess wrote:
M4M with sahuang

[ Normal]
SPOILER
00:39:529 - I don't really agree with this not being mapped, and a repeat rolling over the drums at 00:39:188 - 00:39:359 - , but not 00:39:529 - .
>>you will probably notice how long the series of objects will be if i add a note there for 00:37:825 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - .it's too long and i guess too hard. sometimes it's ok in normal just to ignore some beats,for the sake of proper difficulty. nothing wrong with that
I understand you're following vocal, but after following instruments in the previous section, 00:33:052 - , which also had vocal, it's sort of expected that the rhythms of the following section would retain some of this.
Consider moving this repeat forwards on the timeline, and then adding a circle like this, to emphasize 00:39:188 - better as well:
In case you think this rhythm is too dense for a normal, it is possible to simply remove the circle in between, in order to create a pattern that the player will recognize from previous patterns, 00:27:597 (1,2) - and 00:30:325 (1,2) - .
>>tbh i dont really need to keep a consistency with above, i just keep consistency 00:33:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - also see my bookmarks,this is another part for me ang i guess it'totally fine

00:20:268 - Add a whistle here for consistency with 00:17:540 - sure

00:16:688 - 00:17:200 - 00:18:052 - 00:18:563 - I'd have placed claps on these.
^ 00:19:415 - 00:19:927 - 00:20:779 - 00:21:290 -
>>nah,this is calm part,usually just whistles

00:22:484 - 00:23:165 - 00:23:847 - 00:24:529 - 00:25:211 - adding some claps on these offbeats wouldn't really hurt, since you could increase the volume of 00:25:893 - in comparison if you felt it needed emphasization.
>>dont really like this idea...clap feels too abrupt here

00:27:427 - Why is there a clap here but not on 00:27:086 - ? added

00:29:131 - imo it feels really empty to not have anything on the drum-kicks in the song. Consider adding some drum-kick hitsound for these.
>>this is ok

00:33:052 (1) - Why not place the red point in the middle to cover the drums better?
>>i just made that pattern intentionally to make slider variety,and it looks good to me

00:32:370 (5) - I really don't think the current whistle hs fits for what you're trying to make it reflect. From what I can see you're trying to use it to emphasize certain beats, but I think using a drum-like hitsound for that would work better, in the case of a background drum (which doesn't exist at 00:19:927 - , so default whistles are fine here I guess). Although this sort of breaks consistency with 00:29:131 - where I wanted you to place a drum-kick... The way you're using the whistles is, to be honest, quite confusing. Care to explain?
For now I won't be suggesting whistles unless something is inconsistent.
>>i dont think i can explain really properly...the hitsounds are copied from higher diffs, and i think it's not that important to keep all hs consistent as long as they play fine. whistles are placed where song is calm and also some parts where is suits.

00:34:586 - Why isn't there a whistle here, but at 00:37:313 - ? removed
^ If you decide to add a whistle at that one instead of removing it from the other one, you may want to add whistles on similar sounds like 00:36:631 - as well.

00:37:825 - 00:38:336 - not going to clap these to reflect the song?

00:39:529 - By doing that other suggestion I gave, you can add a clap here.

00:41:915 - I'd normally say that you should add a whistle here, but again, I don't really know how you're placing whistles atm.

00:44:472 - Clapped this but not 00:47:200 -

00:48:904 - 00:46:177 - more hitsound inconsistencies
^ 00:46:347 - 00:49:075 -
^ 00:56:745 - 00:59:472 -
^ 01:01:006 - 00:58:279 -

00:51:461 - Add finish

01:05:950 - why is this not a clap while 01:06:461 - , which isn't either on an offbeat, is?

01:07:654 - depending on if you added whistles to the previous kiai at this position
^ 01:10:381 -

01:11:063 - Add finish for consistency with 01:08:336 -

01:16:518 - Add whistle for consistency with 01:13:790 -

01:22:484 - Missing clap
^ 01:23:847 -

Hitsounds could use some work, but the basis of the map is good.

I see now after looking at the other difficulties that hitsounds are likely copied,
so you should contact your GDers about these inconsistencies.
ok,for hitsounds i fixed almost all inconsistency,rest should be fine

[ Insane]
SPOILER
00:11:745 (2,3) - I'd have swapped these on the timeline for better emphasization.
^ 00:13:109 (2,3) -
^ 00:14:472 (2,3) -
Just remember to fix hitsounds after swapping.
yes they are mentioned by many so fixed
Nice
LOL

00:24:359 (5,6,7) - This doesn't look like a perfect trangle. ( rip 'i' )
Consider copy pasting the first one and rotating it a bit, like this, for example.
k

00:40:893 (4) - this blanket could be improved, just copy 00:40:211 (2) - and rotate it 120 for each of 00:40:211 (2,3,4) - for consistent shapes.
kk

00:43:450 (6) - If you wanted to, you could NC this, because it's a distinct sound and transition to the next section of the song.
>>dont wanna spam and keep consistency here is gud

01:02:540 (4) - some more blanket stuff.

Just add another point like this,~~it'll be easier~~. LOL blanketing this is a pain
aaa y

01:22:654 - So I feel like this part is sort of missing the emphasization at 01:22:995 - both with vocal and drums, so doing this will both cover drums and vocal at the same time.

01:24:529 - 01:26:234 - I'm usually against ending on strong beats, but whatever. It works I guess.

Another small note:
00:07:484 (2,5) - overlaps and stuff are ok with me, but they don't really look intentional atm with how they're placed. k
00:08:506 (1,3) - Like this is quite different from that other one, which makes it look even less intentional. kkkk
Unintentional-looking overlaps usually result in people thinking they were a mistake, which lowers the overall quality of the map from their perspective.
i explained this earlier for my choice of following vocal and use long reverse slider here,i believe it works quite well
01:22:484 - considering you're still missing claps and stuff, I'm going to assume you copied your hitsounds.
Refer to the mod on Normal about inconsistencies and missed claps and finishes or whatever.

00:11:148 - well, this is on a blue tick so maybe it wasn't pointed out in normal.
Basically add a clap here for consistency with the other sound at 00:11:234 - . this is fine

[ General]
SPOILER
Considering that KwaN is here, I guess checking tags would be sort of pointless.

soft-hitclap5.wav
drum-hitnormal5.wav
soft-sliderslide5.wav
Are currently unused, consider removing them unless you're going to use them. yes

Some of your soft sliderslides, soft-sliderslide88.wav and soft-sliderslide89.wav, are not acceptable blank files.

As you can see, these files currently have a length. Plus this length isn't even rankable for hitsounds, as it has to be over 100 ms.
osu!wiki, Ranking Criteria - Audio wrote:
Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards. If you want a silent/blank hitsound, then you must use a 0-byte .wav file.
Consider using the default blank, as linked in the quote from the RC.

Oh btw, there's an unsnapped circle in Taeyang's Extra at 00:28:451 (2) - .
With all the disqualifications about unsnapped objects going on, we'll want to avoid this happening here.
osu!wiki, Ranking Criteria - Timing wrote:
Your map must be perfectly timed. This means that your BPM and offset are spot-on, sliders end when they should, notes are generally following a recognizable rhythm (such as the lyrics or drums) which is comprehensible by a player, and that there are no unsnapped notes (you can check this by running AIMod (shortcut ctrl+shift+a) in the editor).

Good luck!

Sonnyc is still working on his diff so it's actually wip, will get his extra later
Rest of hitsounds i think kwan will look at this since its her wav file~~

ty,hitsounds are a pian and about Insane ~~i might need to check again.~~
checked and copied to other diffs

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-24T02:37:05+00:00

@Naxess hs will copy again when mod finish
nc fixed

@给皇
帮我改一下最后一条nc吧谢谢

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-07-24T05:03:21+00:00

Garden wrote:
00:15:325 (2) - 考虑ctrl-j叠到上面，正好兜一圈.. 后面的相应调整一下 hao
00:49:415 (1,2) - blanket有点歪 hao
01:11:915 (3,1,2) - 这一条过来全是直的，方向也差不多，或许弄点花样恩其實是故意都用直的就那一段

00:31:006 (2,1) - Nazi blanket ok

01:26:234 (1) - I think this spinner is too short for target players the spinner's duration is about 1500 ms which i think it's quite adequate for newbies

00:37:825 (4,1) - 00:25:552 (2,1) - 00:43:279 (3,1) - I didn't know you could use 1/2 beats for easy at this bpm Xp experience matter

@撒謊：sliderslide88 89幫我換換44bytes那個
thanks for mod!

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Countdown: 0
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Title:miele paradiso
TitleUnicode:miele paradiso
Artist:Iori Nomizu
ArtistUnicode:野水いおり
Creator:sahuang
Version:KwaN's Easy
Source:魔装学園H×H
Tags:IamKwaN Left Pata-mon StarrStyx Sonnyc Taeyang Masou Gakuen Hybrid x Heart Magias Academy Ataraxia 伊織 manzo opening short version TV Size Production IMS
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Sotarks

3,502 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2016-07-24T12:58:53+00:00

hi m4m from my queue

taeyang's extra
00:02:540 (3) - this quit makes me sad that the end of this reverse is a clap, why not make this a simple triple
00:24:870 (1) - you could use this rythmn instead like your previous patern, because the voice starts on the end reverse of your slider, that has 0 emphasis. And I would like to clic this voice xd
00:27:596 (1,2,1,2) - idk but i would highly nerf this, starting with huge jump after this sharp stream is a murder dude, i would make the first 1 2 a slider tbh.
00:39:359 (4) - ctrl g this slider looks sexy flow

i really feel is kinda overdone to make such large forced spacing for this kind of song and bpm, but anyways it's 2016 so why not xd

starr's insane
00:09:700 (1) - if u ctrl g this slider it makes larger spacing and better emphasis for this finish downbeat, and it's sexy.
00:15:665 (1) - i mean this nc is useless
00:49:927 (1,1) - tbh for readability i would stack those with the previous note, this patern makes the rythmn so weird
01:22:143 (1) - you were lazy to map here? wtf is this spinner doing there, it's so frustrating while i was playing.. I was like "WTF? WHY?" pls map this xd

insane
00:21:972 (7) - try makes smth like this so it flow well with 00:22:143 (1) - imo
00:43:620 (7) - i would like a nc here

owo really nice diff holy!

gl~

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-24T13:38:14+00:00

@Sotarks all fixed ww

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2016-07-25T00:21:55+00:00

sorry for the late m4m =w=
[General]

not exactly the most PG13-friendly background.. I tried some digging around and maybe you can this one?
SPOILER
holy there are barely any sfw pictures for this series this is probably the least lewd one I could find =w=;;

[KwaN]

00:43:961 (1,2) – I’d consider reversing the order of these (longer 3/2 slider is on the downbeat and the shorter 1/1 slider is on the red tick) to better follow vocals. this combo is a little weird in that 00:43:961 (1,2) – follow the drums more closely but 00:45:495 (3,4) – follow the vocals more closely. since this is an Easy it might be confusing for beginners that the combo is switching between drums and vocals so it’ll probably be better to follow vocals since that seems to be the more dominant sound here
SPOILER
00:46:688 (1,2) - ^refer to the above because that also applies here
01:10:552 (2,3) – i’m assuming you intended these to be parallel? the (3) is slightly off

[Normal]

00:21:802 (7) – a finish here sounds really out of place.. there’s no cymbal crash in the music so I don’t think you should use a normal finish here. actually I think using auto sampleset and drum whistle addition here is more effective for that drum sound you want here
00:43:790 – there’s a really audible beat here you skipped over. I recommend putting a circle here because it’ll help with polarity and also because you’ve done similar rhythms before like at 00:17:881 (4,5) –
00:43:961 (1,2) – and 00:46:688 (1,2) – the vocal note here is held so maybe consider using a 1/1 slider instead of two circles? very recommended if you decided to follow with the above suggestion
01:18:052 (1,2) – i can get the aesthetic reason for this, but idk, it looks kind of iffy to me :v maybe consider making the (2) parallel to the (1)?
SPOILER
01:26:915 (4) – you could divide this up into a 1/1 slider and circle to give more emphasis to the finish clap on 1:27:427 –

[Pata-Mon]

00:21:802 (3) – a finish here sounds really out of place.. there’s no cymbal crash in the music so I don’t think you should use a normal finish here. actually I think using auto sampleset and drum whistle addition here is more effective for that drum sound you want here (yes I basically copy/pasted this from the Normal post lol)
01:27:938 (2) – to be honest I think using just a circle to capture final note works best because there’s not as much emphasis on the red tick 01:28:108 - . if you really want to finish with a slider end to capture the guitar sound, then I recommend dampening the slider end to something like 5% since the sound isn’t very powerful there

[Left]

00:05:268 (1,1) – interesting idea, but I think the sound here works best if this was just one slider instead of two sliders. there’s not really a distinct sound on the beat at 00:05:438 – that would make it clickable imo
00:21:802 (1) – drum whistle addition instead of normal finish; explained this in lower diffs
00:42:427 (5) – forget to NC here? this one combo seems awfully long in comparison to the others
01:11:404 (2,3) – I can see the pattern you’re trying to go for here, but there’s not really much emphasis on the clap because of it imo. I think there should be more distance between (2) and (3) to better emphasize the clap
01:13:279 (3,4,1) – kind of some unintentional overlapping here by just a little bit.. maybe move the (3,4) to the left a bit?

[Insane]

00:03:734 (4) – aesthetically this is a really weird angle when moving in from the (3) to (4). maybe you can Ctrl + H this? remember to adjust the blanket with 00:04:245 (1) – if you do
SPOILER
00:21:802 (6) – explained this already zzzz
00:24:700 (7) – just as an idea, maybe you can move this to x271 | y35 to form another triangle? I feel that this creates a better lead in angle for 00:24:700 (7,1) – and also makes the triangle here a little more interesting to play. what you have is fine though so ignore this if you want
01:23:506 (1) – I think I’ve mentioned this before when I first saw this map. but this plays really weirdly since it doesn’t really fit with the rest of the map's rhythm. maybe try a rhythm like this? this way you keep the emphasis on the same notes while making it more consistent with the rest of the difficulty’s rhythms
SPOILER

[StarR]

00:05:268 (4,5) – refer to the first point in Left’s section because what I said there applies to here as well
00:13:961 (1) – the lead in from this slider to the next looks kind of ugly imo; maybe curve this less by moving the end pivot to the left by a bit?
SPOILER
00:21:717 – you’re already following instrumentals, so why not include the drum beat on this blue tick?
00:21:802 (3) – refer to the other diffs because I’ve mentioned it on their diffs as well zzzz
00:32:200 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) – I’m a little worried that because of the previous triple stacks, the player might think that there’s going to be a triple stack at the (9,1) as well, which could result in some early hits on the (1). consider unstacking 00:32:200 (3,4,5) – and 00:32:540 (6,7,8) – to better differentiate between the triples stacks and 1/2 stacks, or consider adding a circle at 00:32:967 – to continue the triple stack trend
00:36:802 (2,4) – I love blanket mods! don’t you?
00:41:575 (2) – kind of surprised you decided not to follow vocals here after you did so with the previous phrases; seems kind of like an odd place to suddenly switch to instrumentals. besides, the note at 00:41:915 – is really emphasized because of the trumpet so I think the beat here should be clickable. maybe try a rhythm like this?
SPOILER
00:51:461 (1,2,3,1,2,3) – I’m not 100% sure about the snap here.. 00:51:461 (1,2,3) – sounds like it could be in 1/3 since the current 1/4 snaps sound a little too early, but then 00:51:802 (1,2,3) – sounds like it’s 1/4 snap.. hard to hear since vocals are so powerful here and drums are so quiet in comparison. maybe get a few more checks on timing here (gg sound mixer you did a real good job....)
00:53:336 (1) – not gonna do something like what sahuang did in his Insane? I think red tick here should be clickable to emphasize the cymbals, and then you start the spinner on the blue tick after it
01:22:143 (1) – feels like a really weird place to put a spinner, but maybe that’s just me..

[Elite Mapper Taeyang]

00:21:802 (4) – drum whistle addition instead of drum finish sounds more appropriate imo since the sound here doesn’t really mix well with the current drum finish hitsound
00:51:461 (1,2) – I’m not 100% sure about the snap here.. 00:51:461 (1) – sounds like it could be in 1/3, but then 00:51:802 (2) – sounds like it should be 1/4 snap since the beats sound slightly delayed.. you might want to get some other people to check this out just in case
00:55:552 (1,2) – I think the (2) should use a different SV multiplier to better emphasize the change into the chorus, but what you have works too
01:13:279 (3,1) – minor nitpick but the blanket here can be better s:

hope this helps! your mod for your touhou map will come soon =w=;;

Left

2,161 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2016-07-25T04:07:36+00:00

sorry OwO

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need volume adjustmentsfixed
00:09:700 (1) - not enough emphasize on this finish, ctrlg might be a solution but doesn't feel that nice..fixed
00:11:575 (2,3) - move to have the slidertail of 3 stacked on 00:10:552 (3) - maybe, that somehow strengthens the connection between objects, ofc u should adjust the latter objects a bit if u wanna apply thisfixed
nice symmetry patterns

Misure wrote:
hello here
[Left's Insane]
01:26:234 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - NC at 01:26:234 - 01:26:745 - 01:27:256 - 01:27:768 - ?fixed
have you remapped this diff since I remember it wasn't like what it is for now LOL
any way, objects are too crowded in the middle when ctrl+A, maybe spreaded out betterI'm thinking about this lol
Good luck!

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
M4M

[Left's Insane]
lol the spread xd, im not saying is bad, actually this mapping style is good xdI'm thinking about this lol
00:39:700 (6,4) - meh =w=fixed
00:42:768 (6) - NC for emphasizedfixed
00:47:370 (3,2) - nah...fixed
00:53:336 (3) - lol NC here fixed
01:05:950 (1) - not necessary nc imo, no sv change and no special sound to emphasizedhmm I'll consider it
01:13:450 (4,1) - almostlol fixed

CaffeAmericano wrote:
Hi... M4M~!

Left’s Insane
힛사 볼륨 수정해 주셔야 할 듯 :3글게여..

00:05:438 (1) - 위치를 (145,325) 로 옮겨서 00:04:586 (2,1) - 오버랩 피하고 00:04:586 (2,4,1) - 를 삼각형 만들면 어떨까요? 이 제안 괜찮으시면 00:04:586 (2,1) - 스택 하셔도 좋을 듯fixed

00:22:057 - 00:55:779 - 00:56:148 - 01:05:864 - 01:06:035 - 01:06:290 - 여기 timing point 넣어서 힛사 5% 정도로 해 주는건 어떨까요마지막꺼 제외하고 적용시켰습니다. 마지막껀 1/2박이라 넣으면 일관성이 없을거같네요..

00:28:790 (1,2) - 같은 음 같은데 앞 부분 00:06:972 (1) - 이랑 다른 박자로 매핑 하신 의도를 잘 모르겠습니다fixed

00:08:847 (2,3) - 00:30:665 (1,2) - ^다른 음이 하나 있어서 그건 제외했습니다

00:32:711 (2,1) - 00:39:700 (6,4) -스택 일부러 안 하신 건가요?전자는 넵후자는 fixed

00:55:552 (3) - 슬라 테일 일부러 스냅을 00:55:779 - 에 하신건가요?세상에 아무도 지적을 안했다니ㅋㅋㅋ

00:58:279 (4,5) - 01:09:188 (4,5) - 비슷한 음 같은데 일관성이 조금 없다고 보일수도…?멜로디가 좀 달라서 그걸 표현했어요

01:11:063 (1) - 강한 소리가 있는데 점프가 없는게 아쉽네요fixed

Nice mapset. Hope to see it ranked soon

Naxess wrote:
M4M with sahuang

[ Left's Insane]
SPOILER
00:13:620 (1,2) - Consider swapping NC. (2) is quite clearly more emphasized than (1), so I don't see why the combo would begin on (1).
It's also inconsistent with how 00:12:597 - is NCed.

I see hitsounds were copied, so I'll point out what I did in the other diffs.

01:22:484 - Missing clapsome fixed, some keep
^ 01:23:847 -
^ 00:38:336 -
^ 00:11:148 -
^ 00:37:825 -
^ 00:38:336 -

00:51:461 - Missing finishfixed
^ 01:11:063 - for consistency with 01:08:336 -

01:16:518 - Add whistle for consistency with 01:13:790 - fixed

00:44:472 - Since this has a clap, you could also add one at 00:47:200 - , or remove, for consistency.fixed

00:22:484 - 00:23:165 - From this section you could place claps on the offbeats to cover those sounds. Up to you though.
Depending on what your fellow GDers, or sahuang, did, you'd probably want to change these for consistency across the mapset.ughh..I'm really bad at HS, so I''ll check all of them once more.

Might've missed something, look at the mod for Normal about hitsounds, in your diff, unless you're planning to copy the hitsounds again.

Minor NC and some hitsounds. Looks pretty solid otherwise.
Good luck!

Doormat wrote:
sorry for the late m4m =w=[Left]
00:05:268 (1,1) – interesting idea, but I think the sound here works best if this was just one slider instead of two sliders. there’s not really a distinct sound on the beat at 00:05:438 – that would make it clickable imohmm..I thought it was different sound..I'll consider it.
00:21:802 (1) – drum whistle addition instead of normal finish; explained this in lower diffsfixed
00:42:427 (5) – forget to NC here? this one combo seems awfully long in comparison to the othersI have to think about here more..
01:11:404 (2,3) – I can see the pattern you’re trying to go for here, but there’s not really much emphasis on the clap because of it imo. I think there should be more distance between (2) and (3) to better emphasize the clapfixed
01:13:279 (3,4,1) – kind of some unintentional overlapping here by just a little bit.. maybe move the (3,4) to the left a bit?lol fixed
hope this helps! your mod for your touhou map will come soon =w=;;

thanks for all mods!

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-25T09:27:10+00:00

Doormat wrote:
sorry for the late m4m =w=

[General]
not exactly the most PG13-friendly background.. I tried some digging around and maybe you can this one?
SPOILER
holy there are barely any sfw pictures for this series this is probably the least lewd one I could find =w=;;
I personally like that bg very much so yeah, if bn/qat say it's bad i will change to yours w
[Normal]
00:21:802 (7) – a finish here sounds really out of place.. there’s no cymbal crash in the music so I don’t think you should use a normal finish here. actually I think using auto sampleset and drum whistle addition here is more effective for that drum sound you want here yes i will try drum-whis
00:43:790 – there’s a really audible beat here you skipped over. I recommend putting a circle here because it’ll help with polarity and also because you’ve done similar rhythms before like at 00:17:881 (4,5) – nah,wanna keep 00:43:961 (1,1) - consistent and follow vocal,i considered adding circle here but its really hard
00:43:961 (1,2) – and 00:46:688 (1,2) – the vocal note here is held so maybe consider using a 1/1 slider instead of two circles? very recommended if you decided to follow with the above suggestion oh this looks good...i will leave it here and as long as someone else suggests this i will change too lazy zzz
01:18:052 (1,2) – i can get the aesthetic reason for this, but idk, it looks kind of iffy to me :v maybe consider making the (2) parallel to the (1)?
actually i adjusted position 01:18:052 (1) -
01:26:915 (4) – you could divide this up into a 1/1 slider and circle to give more emphasis to the finish clap on 1:27:427 – nice!!
[Insane]
00:03:734 (4) – aesthetically this is a really weird angle when moving in from the (3) to (4). maybe you can Ctrl + H this? remember to adjust the blanket with 00:04:245 (1) – if you do
sure
00:21:802 (6) – explained this already zzzz zzz
00:24:700 (7) – just as an idea, maybe you can move this to x271 | y35 to form another triangle? I feel that this creates a better lead in angle for 00:24:700 (7,1) – and also makes the triangle here a little more interesting to play. what you have is fine though so ignore this if you want k try it now
01:23:506 (1) – I think I’ve mentioned this before when I first saw this map. but this plays really weirdly since it doesn’t really fit with the rest of the map's rhythm. maybe try a rhythm like this? this way you keep the emphasis on the same notes while making it more consistent with the rest of the difficulty’s rhythms kk
hope this helps! your mod for your touhou map will come soon =w=;;

ty

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-28T05:16:08+00:00

Gonna get Sonnyc's extra and find maybe 2-3 more mods then call BN.

Sonnyc

7,760 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-07-28T21:38:01+00:00

http://puu.sh/qhSVO/aa286c3ee8.zip
Finally finished. Hope you like this!

Few additional notes:

The custom combo color is different from other difficulties since these are my personal preference. If sahuang wants to set it consistently over all difficulties, then I can change it but if not, I'd prefer the current setting.
Approach rate is 9. It might be unbalanced with other difficulties at glance, but please note that this expert difficulty is highly relying on distance snapping for several patterns, and using a higer ar will not make things perfectly as intended.
The spacing of 01:01:688 (1,2) is purposely inconsistent to make the pattern interact with the previous square. I admit this wasn't something best, but I feel it's also not something really bad (though I'm not 100% satisfied with the outcome).

@Pata-Mon: 00:00:325 - 100% 00:05:779 - 70% in volume. Fix this unbalanced setting plz.

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-07-28T23:11:43+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
http://puu.sh/qhSVO/aa286c3ee8.zip
Finally finished. Hope you like this!

Few additional notes:
The custom combo color is different from other difficulties since these are my personal preference. If sahuang wants to set it consistently over all difficulties, then I can change it but if not, I'd prefer the current setting.
Approach rate is 9. It might be unbalanced with other difficulties at glance, but please note that this expert difficulty is highly relying on distance snapping for several patterns, and using a higer ar will not make things perfectly as intended.
The spacing of 01:01:688 (1,2) is purposely inconsistent to make the pattern interact with the previous square. I admit this wasn't something best, but I feel it's also not something really bad (though I'm not 100% satisfied with the outcome).
@Pata-Mon: 00:00:325 - 100% 00:05:779 - 70% in volume. Fix this unbalanced setting plz.

1.Set combo colour to the same.
2.ar and spread is fine imo x.x
3.Changed volume for patamon, and disabled widescreen in every diff.

Now i will find 3-4 mods and hopefully everything will be good

yf_bmp

Elite Storyboarder II / Elite Mapper

1,631 posts

Joined December 2011

yf_bmp 2016-07-29T08:55:51+00:00

[Taeyang's Extra]
no comment on large-random-jump map

[Sonnyc's Expert]
Nothing serious, nice mapping

[StarR's Insane]
00:37:228 (2) - 其实去掉比较好但是感觉你就是故意放的
00:52:995 (2) - 这个我感觉能放远点

[Insane]
00:01:006 (4,5) - ctrl+g?
没什么就是遮挡方面最好再整齐点

GL

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-07-30T08:23:54+00:00

水摸

[KwaN's Easy]

KwaN也用SB hitsound, 上次我用被zzb拒絕了，mdzz

[Insane]

01:04:245 (6,7,1) - 這個形狀不太好看，而且後面flow比較亂，所以01:04:245 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - 改成像這樣的和後面連接比較好
SPOILER
01:15:154 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - 同樣的地方
01:20:438 (4) - Ctrl+G然後弄彎對後面的flow比較順，像這樣
SPOILER

[StarR's Insane]

AR-0.1

[Sonnyc's Expert]

AR9.2 or 9.3?
00:31:518 (1) - Ctrl+G for better flow

[Taeyang's Extra]

AR9.6 a little bit too fast imo, 176BPM using AR9.3 or 9.4 is enough.
00:28:451 - Unsnap object(should be 28450 but now are 28451)
01:11:575 (2) - Ctrl+G for better flow
01:13:279 (3,2) - Not stacked properly

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-08-01T03:47:35+00:00

@Doormat
I think slider is suitable and I can't hear the hitsound on the end so no need to add green line

thanks for mod

hitsound copied from sahuang again

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-08-01T04:51:20+00:00

Doormat

00:43:961 (1,2) – I’d consider reversing the order of these (longer 3/2 slider is on the downbeat and the shorter 1/1 slider is on the red tick) to better follow vocals. this combo is a little weird in that 00:43:961 (1,2) – follow the drums more closely but 00:45:495 (3,4) – follow the vocals more closely. since this is an Easy it might be confusing for beginners that the combo is switching between drums and vocals so it’ll probably be better to follow vocals since that seems to be the more dominant sound here eh? i was constantly following drums 00:43:790 - 00:44:643 - , following vocals are kinda shitty in this stanza because hitsounds will fuck up, you may try to close sample and listen again
00:46:688 (1,2) - ^refer to the above because that also applies here
01:10:552 (2,3) – i’m assuming you intended these to be parallel? the (3) is slightly off done

Kencho

好像用了好幾遍都沒人說過

Thanks for mods!

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 55722
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 2
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TitleUnicode:miele paradiso
Artist:Iori Nomizu
ArtistUnicode:野水いおり
Creator:sahuang
Version:KwaN's Easy
Source:魔装学園H×H
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Taeyang

Elite Mapper

1,209 posts

Joined June 2013

Taeyang 2016-08-01T08:20:58+00:00

Misure wrote:
hello here
[Taeyang's Extra]
00:01:859 (2,1) - too far to read? enough DS
00:24:870 (1,2) - stack better imo idk better reason
00:55:893 (2) - NC? no problam
01:02:029 (2) - finish at head needed?yeap
01:04:075 (4) - stack with 01:02:711 (5) - ? for flowno unstack looks better
01:06:802 (1,2) - maybe making them closer have more fun with rhythm change, like 01:06:802 (1) - to 276|144, 01:06:972 (2) - to 268|264
no
01:10:552 (3) - ctrl+G? LOL just my idea
01:10:552 (3,1) - for parallel flow
01:19:075 (4) - ctrl+G?bad flow with 01:19:075 (4,1) - make antijump
01:27:768 (1,2) - further?i'll consider this but i dont want

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
M4M

[Taeyang's Extra]
00:03:052 (1,2) - ill change 2 to kick either cuz imo is a better way to express the cymbol sound here
00:00:325 (1,2) - consistency with this
00:26:063 (1) - this slider need more emphasized, try to make the spacing bigger
that's make unbalance DS 00:24:870 (1,2,1) - with this point 00:24:870 (1,2) -
00:34:756 (3,1) - 00:37:484 (3,1) - 1/1 spacing here is too small and inconsistent
there have 1/1 rhythm term so i did antijump,look fine
01:07:654 (1) - unnecessary nc for reading, looks better

Sotarks wrote:
taeyang's extra
00:02:540 (3) - this quit makes me sad that the end of this reverse is a clap, why not make this a simple triple
i hope blanket pattern with 00:02:029 (1,2,3,2) - this
00:24:870 (1) - you could use this rythmn instead like your previous patern, because the voice starts on the end reverse of your slider, that has 0 emphasis. And I would like to clic this voice xd
i feel 3drum sounds than vocal sound
00:27:596 (1,2,1,2) - idk but i would highly nerf this, starting with huge jump after this sharp stream is a murder dude, i would make the first 1 2 a slider tbh.
i think looks good with noise sound
00:39:359 (4) - ctrl g this slider looks sexy flow
00:39:359 (4,5) - too far xdd

i really feel is kinda overdone to make such large forced spacing for this kind of song and bpm, but anyways it's 2016 so why not xd

Doormat wrote:
[Elite Mapper Taeyang]
00:21:802 (4) – drum whistle addition instead of drum finish sounds more appropriate imo since the sound here doesn’t really mix well with the current drum finish hitsound
Good idea
00:51:461 (1,2) – I’m not 100% sure about the snap here.. 00:51:461 (1) – sounds like it could be in 1/3, but then 00:51:802 (2) – sounds like it should be 1/4 snap since the beats sound slightly delayed.. you might want to get some other people to check this out just in case
ok fixed
00:55:552 (1,2) – I think the (2) should use a different SV multiplier to better emphasize the change into the chorus, but what you have works too
hmm i think enough two 0.75SV slide
01:13:279 (3,1) – minor nitpick but the blanket here can be better s:
ok fixed
hope this helps! your mod for your touhou map will come soon =w=;;

Kencho wrote:
[Taeyang's Extra]
AR9.6 a little bit too fast imo, 176BPM using AR9.3 or 9.4 is enough.
ok fixed i'll try ar9.4
00:28:451 - Unsnap object(should be 28450 but now are 28451)
ok fixed
01:11:575 (2) - Ctrl+G for better flow
01:11:575 (2,3) - antijump
01:13:279 (3,2) - Not stacked properly
ok fixed

done

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sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-01T09:40:54+00:00

all fixed :w:

Last edited by sahuang 2016-08-01T10:22:00+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Sonnyc

7,760 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-08-01T09:54:27+00:00

00:31:518 (1) - this was for aesthetic purpose, and to emphasize the finish better.

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-08-02T15:26:03+00:00

修blanket
好烦啊，每次看都已经对上了，然后后来看总有又歪了的，这垃圾程序，对强迫症来说简直是谋杀

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sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-03T09:28:27+00:00

等柚子摸完了再一起update啦^^

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-08-07T20:13:45+00:00

[Taeyang's Extra]

00:00:325 (1) - 00:01:518 (1,2) - 00:03:052 (1) - 00:04:245 (1,2) - yea kickslider they are a little bit overmap, it will affect the reading on playing imo
00:33:393 (3) - same on this part

[StarR's Insane]

00:21:802 (3) - finish有d太突出同首歌唔太夾建議試下soft whistle
00:50:268 (3) - better remove, 個note係呢度好怪
00:53:336 (1) - 停係00:54:529 - 我覺得ok 因為有鼓音
01:22:143 (1) - 唔舊圖feel 但係會唔會停得有d急

[Insane]

00:07:484 (2) - stack強迫症

[Left's Insane]

00:05:268 (1,1) - the speed change too extreme for a light insane, recommend make more difference on this two slider
00:30:665 (1) - maybe speed up isnt fit here
01:05:609 (1,1,2) - imo this speed up are a little bit overly
01:16:518 (1) - same, it already make the pattern hard to read cuz it like a normal 1/1 slider

[Normal]

01:13:109 (2) - 多了clap?

最好可以搞清楚一下00:51:461 - 到00:52:143 - 的snapping

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-08T00:52:12+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[Insane]
00:07:484 (2) - stack強迫症
00:07:484 (2) - 这边没有stack吧。。？复制错？blanket fixed

[Normal]
01:13:109 (2) - 多了clap?
fixed

最好可以搞清楚一下00:51:461 - 到00:52:143 - 的snapping

@starr & sonnyc : Did some irc with Gero, Natsu and Doormat, confirmed that it's better to use a 1/3 reverse 00:51:461 - and from 00:51:802 - following 1/4 or 1/2 are all fine, so maybe change that part

Last edited by sahuang 2016-08-08T01:10:19+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Taeyang

Elite Mapper

1,209 posts

Joined June 2013

Taeyang 2016-08-08T01:04:41+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[Taeyang's Extra]
00:00:325 (1) - 00:01:518 (1,2) - 00:03:052 (1) - 00:04:245 (1,2) - yea kickslider they are a little bit overmap, it will affect the reading on playing imo
ok i changed to 1.0x
00:33:393 (3) - same on this part
no i think here is enough readable kickslide

asdf

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Left

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Joined October 2014

Left 2016-08-08T02:49:38+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[Left's Insane]
00:05:268 (1,1) - the speed change too extreme for a light insane, recommend make more difference on this two sliderI agree, fixed
00:30:665 (1) - maybe speed up isnt fit here fixed
01:05:609 (1,1,2) - imo this speed up are a little bit overlysound is large enough to be emphasized by SV, so I think it's reasonable
01:16:518 (1) - same, it already make the pattern hard to read cuz it like a normal 1/1 sliderIn SV, I have same opinion as above, but I agree with readability issue, so just changed to long 1/1 slider.

thanks!

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Nakano Itsuki

1,218 posts

Joined July 2014

Nakano Itsuki 2016-08-08T10:36:20+00:00

01:22:143 (1) - unless the spinner is unrankable, im not gonna change this.

fixed a couple of stuff from other mods, thx! 偷懒大师

g.

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IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-08-08T10:54:50+00:00

sahuang asked me about the snapping from 00:51:461 - till 00:51:802 -

basically what you mentioned: 1/3 reverse slider starting at 00:51:461 - and following by 1/4 or 1/2 rhythm

got some spacing issues fixed

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sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-08T12:51:42+00:00

All updated,thanks kwan and waiting for sonnyc to change that 1/3 part

@sonnyc: also 00:47:881 (1) - touches HP bar pls fix it as well x.x

Sonnyc

7,760 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-08-09T01:36:57+00:00

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Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-08-09T21:09:01+00:00

b

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-11T09:28:58+00:00

Rizia wrote:
b

<3

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2016-08-12T21:28:23+00:00

go for it, osu! needs more harems!

Left

2,161 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2016-08-13T05:23:22+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
go for it, osu! needs more harems!

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-13T07:59:02+00:00

Left wrote:
Kalibe wrote:
go for it, osu! needs more harems!

h...e...n...tai!!!

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,325 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2016-08-25T14:44:24+00:00

Ticket

[General]

檢查metadata了嗎

[Normal]

01:22:484 - Missing clap

[Pata-Mon's Hard]

00:05:268 (4) - 我覺得在Hard還是避免這樣把滑條頭尾疊上
00:41:915 (3) - ctrl+g就好, 不需要太多跳

[Left's Insane]

00:26:915 (1,2) - Try using other patterns else? for me the jump is too big within the short 1/4 interval
00:51:802 (6,7) - Distance make more sense to me when their position are reversed
01:12:256 (6) - If it is possible to stack under 01:12:256 (6)'s end and blanket well with 01:12:086 (5) to get a cleaner symmetrical pattern? xD
really interesting mapping style : o

[Insane]

00:06:461 (3,2) - Stack properly

[StarR's Insane]

00:51:802 (2) - 一個折返就好, 00:52:057 沒音
01:22:143 (1) - 這似乎有點短..

媽的好跳

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-08-25T15:04:21+00:00

00:05:268 (4) - 这里我真的觉得这个音超适合这个梗诶还是想保持0.0毕竟hard里也不是绝对不行
00:41:915 (3) - 这里还是蛮重的音呢，而且前后都是滑条尾接的，所以打起来不难0.0

谢谢超市！

Nakano Itsuki

1,218 posts

Joined July 2014

Nakano Itsuki 2016-08-25T15:27:49+00:00

i disagree but yes.
i agree but no.

thx超市男神

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-25T15:30:15+00:00

Chaoslitz wrote:
Ticket

[General]
檢查metadata了嗎
第一页kwan的post，很稳(
[Normal]
01:22:484 - Missing clap yes
[Insane]
00:06:461 (3,2) - Stack properly k
[StarR's Insane]
00:51:802 (2) - 一個折返就好, 00:52:057 沒音
01:22:143 (1) - 這似乎有點短..

媽的好跳

thx!!

Left

2,161 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2016-08-26T08:50:31+00:00

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 55722
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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Chaoslitz wrote:
Ticket
[Left's Insane]
00:26:915 (1,2) - Try using other patterns else? for me the jump is too big within the short 1/4 interval fixed
00:51:802 (6,7) - Distance make more sense to me when their position are reversed fixed
01:12:256 (6) - If it is possible to stack under 01:12:256 (6)'s end and blanket well with 01:12:086 (5) to get a cleaner symmetrical pattern? xD I can't stak it because It makes notes to dense if stacked. blanket and symmetry is ok fixed
really interesting mapping style : o but many people hate this shitmapping

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,325 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2016-08-26T14:16:44+00:00

StarrStyx wrote:
i disagree but yes.
i agree but no.

thx超市男神

/me slaps

Left wrote:
but many people hate this shitmapping

I like it.

Qualified

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-08-26T14:17:48+00:00

graaaaatz! c:

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-08-26T14:22:53+00:00

成就√
5分钟飞俩gd

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-08-26T14:24:49+00:00

巴達獸你怎麼整天曬自己多GD？？

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-08-26T14:31:06+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
巴達獸你怎麼整天曬自己多GD？？

小的错了
天底下论gd 骏妈最无敌

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-26T14:34:47+00:00

Thanks~~~
Also huge thanks to gder from korea and hk and china <3

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-08-26T14:49:00+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
IamKwaN wrote:
巴達獸你怎麼整天曬自己多GD？？
小的错了
天底下论gd 骏妈最无敌

不不不我GD不多多的只有妹子

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-08-26T14:49:48+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
Pata-Mon wrote:
小的错了
天底下论gd 骏妈最无敌
不不不我GD不多多的只有妹子

羡慕

Coin

36 posts

Joined June 2014

Coin 2016-08-26T23:33:38+00:00

I seriously don't want to insult you but how do you even justify this mapping?

Fullscreen jumps when there is barely any change in music intensity.

Example one, Taeyang's Extra

Example two, Sonnyc's Expert

If the song would have been actually consistently intense, I might slightly understand your point of view, but it's quite a calm song too.

There isn't even a consistent spacing either, it's one or two (yes I'm having to say this) pp patterns at the beginning of the map and one in the kiai, the rest of the song is just braindead 3 stars.

People with this amount of experience shouldn't do this, especially not in a mapset going for ranked.

I'm gonna politely ask you not to rank this, from a player's point of view.

Come on guys, what just is this...

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Cheesecake 2016-08-26T23:43:01+00:00

(Taeyang) 01:07:313 (2) - This has no actual beat on it and it's a fullscreen jump like what

Map for PP all you want but at least don't make things up

Shad0w1and

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Shad0w1and 2016-08-26T23:51:55+00:00

有人想搞事？

make things up, that is common mapping skill.
overmap is accepted and is different from overdone.
I personally see no problem with taeyang's diff.

Shiirn

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Shiirn 2016-08-27T00:02:13+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
make things up, that is common mapping skill.
overmap is accepted and is different from overdone.

i am so triggered by this
this is literally like the exact opposite of what should be considered normal, rational thinking
you realize overmapping even now is shit most of the time except in exceptionally well-done cases and "overdone" is one of the main reasons
this game has turned into progressively higher-velocity bullshit retarded 1/2 rhythmic whack-a-mole

Coin

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Joined June 2014

Coin 2016-08-27T00:09:14+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
有人想搞事？

make things up, that is common mapping skill.
overmap is accepted and is different from overdone.
I personally see no problem with taeyang's diff.

A proper map should follow musical intensity with it's difficulty spikes and do that consistently, neither of which is happening here. This is common mapping sense.
Overmap is rarely accepted and only accepted when the song gives room for it and it is done properly. This is not overmapping, this is just plain overdone.

Your arguments are just as bland and basic as they can get, because the things you are defending don't even make sense.

有人想搞事 -> Wanting to do things a certain way doesn't mean it's correct and you should. If you want to do this, please leave the maps in the graveyard.

Cherry Blossom

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Cherry Blossom 2016-08-27T00:27:22+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
make things up, that is common mapping skill.

No.
Enforcing difficulty is not common mapping skill.

Shad0w1and

1,586 posts

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2016-08-27T00:36:01+00:00

Uhm too much for the discussion.

SPOILER

I don't like that extra, but I see no problem with it. If you really want some good overmapped examples, I can give you examples from 2013 to now.
and do not say they are all bad shit.
also do not hate pp style because you can't play it. someone like them, someone not.
you always have other options from the set.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/135401
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/231691
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219380
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/240627
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/402680
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/402187

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Arphimigon

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Arphimigon 2016-08-27T00:42:56+00:00

Don't pick all maps by asian mapperz, thats not credible.

Mechanizen

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Joined March 2015

Mechanizen 2016-08-27T00:44:30+00:00

Don't pick all maps by asian mapperz, thats not credible.

ＴＲＩＧＧＥＲＥＤ

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_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2016-08-27T00:45:16+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
I don't like that extra, but I see no problem with it. If you really want some good overmapped examples, I can give you examples from 2013 to now.
and do not say they are all bad shit.
also do not hate pp style because you can't play it. someone like them, someone not.
you always have other options from the set.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/135401
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/231691
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219380
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/240627
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/402680
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/402187

A few of these aren't even overmapped but ok

Jace

73 posts

Joined May 2014

Jace 2016-08-27T00:47:07+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
you always have other options from the set.

I personally think it's better to not keep quiet and give constructive criticism if you don't like something, not just ignoring it, but each to their own right? It'd be silly for people to just not post things they don't like about the map just because there is other options.

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Coin

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Coin 2016-08-27T00:47:59+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
good overmapped examples

That it EXACTLY the problem here.

I wouldn't even dare to compare this set to some of the maps you've linked.

I wouldn't even call some of them overmapped.

Do you actually have any idea what you're talking about?

Because you should be

sahuang

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Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-27T00:48:20+00:00

...The following comments are my own understanding of the two diffs and how they work. I will ask Sonnyc and Taeyang to express their ideas later on.

Onur636 wrote:
I seriously don't want to insult you but how do you even justify this mapping?

Fullscreen jumps when there is barely any change in music intensity.

If the song would have been actually consistently intense, I might slightly understand your point of view, but it's quite a calm song too.

There isn't even a consistent spacing either, it's one or two (yes I'm having to say this) pp patterns at the beginning of the map and one in the kiai, the rest of the song is just braindead 3 stars.

People with this amount of experience shouldn't do this, especially not in a mapset going for ranked.

I'm gonna politely ask you not to rank this, from a player's point of view.

Come on guys, what just is this...

>>The song has two intense parts, one is at the beginning, from 00:11:234 - to 00:15:836 - .Compared to the really calm part onwards, this part is not calm at all. Why does it not deserve some jumps? You can see that the ds is small in the calm part,and in order to emphasis the intensity at the beginning i think there's no problem to place these jumps. Second intense part is just the kiai. In taeyang's diff the only big jumps in kiai are 01:06:120 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - ,and this exactly expresses the most fierce part of this song. Same applies to sonnyc's diff.
01:06:120 - You said that 'Fullscreen jumps when there is barely any change in music intensity.' but i have to disagree cuz the song has quite a few music intensity changes and it's not always calm at all. Honestly i can't see any reason for this to not to be ranked...It's fine from a player's point of view, nothing unrankable, and the jump fits the music.

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Shad0w1and wrote:
make things up, that is common mapping skill.
No.
Enforcing difficulty is not common mapping skill.

>>Is it really enforcing difficulty then...? From my point of view the extras are totally fine, every map will have its calm part and intense part where the ds is supposed to be much bigger than the calm one. I don't wanna talk about other maps cuz it's meaningless to do comparison although it's true that some more calm maps are much more overmapped than this. I just think the jumps they make are on purpose by them and when playing this map it shows intensity compared to calm parts.

Lemme talk to them more about the diffs. Feel free to leave your ideas but i hope you guys can wait for their response.

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-08-27T00:50:36+00:00

Can you guys avoid trying to stir up unnecessary reactions from each other maybe?
If you want to discuss, do it in an educated manner, thanks.

I'm referring to personal attacks and things like that. Don't

Cherry Blossom

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Joined October 2011

Cherry Blossom 2016-08-27T00:58:30+00:00

sahuang wrote:
>>Is it really enforcing difficulty then...? From my point of view the extras are totally fine, every map will have its calm part and intense part where the ds is supposed to be much bigger than the calm one.

That's the problem here. You generalize.
calm parts are mapped correctly, but i really wonder how star rating can be retarded (6.00) with just a few long jumps, while the rest of the map is pretty simple to play. People complain about pps, i don't care about pp.
This map sounds rhythmically fine concerning patterns, but the way they are placed is like "let's place this long jump haha this is so difficult i'm so proud of myself"

Also i don't really see why a lot of people are complaining here, i already saw pretty worse situations lol

lilelf29

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Joined June 2013

lilelf29 2016-08-27T01:03:57+00:00

Honestly imo the "intense" parts of the song really don't deserve the jumps.
There's hardly any change and it's just 1/2 spam mapped over nothing.
Clearly mapped for "haha xd look at my 176 bpm ar9.4 map that's 6* for 5 seconds that I can rank lol"
Aside from the extras I don't see anything wrong with the other difficulties.

_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2016-08-27T01:09:00+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Can you guys avoid trying to stir up unnecessary reactions from each other maybe?
If you want to discuss, do it in an educated manner, thanks.

I'm referring to personal attacks and things like that. Don't

Who's attacking who?

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Also i don't really see why a lot of people are complaining here, i already saw pretty worse situations lol

Not that I'm one of the people that are complaining but... is it fine to overlook mistakes simply because other's have got away with it in the past?

Shiirn

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Joined August 2010

Shiirn 2016-08-27T01:14:38+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Also i don't really see why a lot of people are complaining here, i already saw pretty worse situations lol

i mean most of the time when you're intentionally fucking the entirety of mapping history and development in the face for personal gain (attention) people tend to get a bit upset and post on your threads when they're aware of it

just because some, or even most, of these maps that are insulting simply by existing slip by because a handful of self-serving attention whores got sneaky doesn't mean it should be considered normal

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-08-27T01:20:07+00:00

As there is a healthy amount of discussion, I'm deciding to take it down until you've found a consensus with the community.

I do agree that some jumps are partially way too high. It is nothing new and starts to get really boring, I don't get why people keep doing it. The maps are generally fine and actually offer cool patterns - why is there a need to make it ridiculously difficult all of a sudden? we all know the reason yet no one wants to admit it

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Cheesecake 2016-08-27T01:24:48+00:00

Taeyang

00:13:961 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why do you change the structure of these jumps, they're representing the same drum patterns as 00:11:234 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - where I agree with how you mapped those, having (2) and (3) be stacked near eachother makes sense as they're both the same drum. Then it just changes into big jumps for no reason, like, you've taken the same rhythm and mapped it in two different ways. How do you justify this?

00:27:768 (2) - Literally nothing exists here. This little jump section (00:27:596 (1,2,1,2) - ) would be far better mapped as two sliders to follow those two sustained sounds. I'm all for mapping what the song feels like at that moment, but you'd think something would actually have to exist there for the player to click on, right?

00:49:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Wow it's the same rhythm from earlier again, and it's mapped differently again!

01:07:313 (2) - I mentioned this in my last post but I'll flesh it out more here. So re-iterating that this has no sound, and it's also grouped in with these previous jumps 01:06:120 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - in the same pattern. For those jumps, I'm happy with how they're mapped and I think they represent the music well, but then 01:07:143 (1,2) - comes along and does the same thing, hell it's even bigger than the previous ones. Ironic how I'm trying to get you to make this easier but then I think 01:07:143 (1) - should be a lot more spaced than it currently is, if we're talking about the "feel" of the song and the mapping before hand, this is the jump that should be cross-screen. Not 01:07:313 (2) - , with its, uh, nothing. Hell, 01:07:654 (1) - only has a light vocal on it but then it's even bigger yet than 01:07:143 (1) -

^That paragraph was a big jumble of words that took me like 15 minutes to sort out properly and it still might not make coherent sense, so I'll just summarize.

01:07:143 (1) - Should break from the pattern and have a larger spacing
01:07:313 (2) - Should have much less spacing / not exist as a clickable object
01:07:654 (1) - Should not have the biggest spacing in this section

01:17:029 (2,3,4,5,6) - It surprises me that you don't put more big jumps here since it's the same kind of thing as the jumps I talked about in the last paragraph. I'll include this in here because this part is kinda short but 01:17:029 (2) - the sliderend has a higher pitch note than the slider start, so why do you give the weaker note priority over the stronger note, clicking wise?

While modding this I noticed that you've overmapped some parts and undermapped others, I think for the interest of a good, accurate, fun map you should tone down the overmapped / overdone parts and buff the undermapped parts for a more even difficulty throughout the map. Can't we both agree on that?

It's a shame because I quite like this song but I don't feel it's represented well enough

Pata-Mon

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Pata-Mon 2016-08-27T02:30:01+00:00

不泰懂这帮人，不稿点是旧步舒服
虾蚪说巨话还被塌们拿趣帆亿，态可帕了，不过打典错别自不旧行了

我莺雨太岔旧步参与撕比了，给皇你们家游

突然觉得飞球摇曳百合没被搞真是幸运，这图的跳并不比那边过分

Nakano Itsuki

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Joined July 2014

Nakano Itsuki 2016-08-27T02:45:52+00:00

其實搖曳百合放的跳是合理的。。畢竟那首強度更高
我不是說這首不適合跳但是強度明顯差一大截啊。。不能比較

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-27T02:47:40+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
we all know the reason yet no one wants to admit it

phaZ

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Joined October 2011

phaZ 2016-08-27T02:57:48+00:00

throwing my two cents here for now (maybe ill mod it?)

apart from the screen jumps, i dont see anything wrong at all at Sonnyc's Diff. it very well meets my expectatios of an Expert-diff. if you just generally think about what difficulties in the game would look like, this would be a perfect example imo. i didnt even look at any other diff yet, but this diff itself is really good

now taeyang's extra - well the whole concept in that diff indeed seems a bit unnessecary i guess, but i can see where it comes from xD. there isnt much wrong technically
[]
btw fuck this anime /runs

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Pata-Mon

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Pata-Mon 2016-08-27T02:58:22+00:00

StarrStyx wrote:
其實搖曳百合放的跳是合理的。。畢竟那首強度更高
我不是說這首不適合跳但是強度明顯差一大截啊。。不能比較

至少我觉得两首强度差不多。前面有人说quite calm song 我也真是不太懂

比如主难度，00:11:234 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 00:49:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这两串我都觉得没啥问题，要说有哪里跳大了我觉得也就是00:27:596 (1,2,1,2) - 这种地方，这里可能是没那么大强度

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Taeyang

Elite Mapper

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Taeyang 2016-08-27T02:59:44+00:00

sry i chached cold x.x so i cant answer all

fixed

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Taeyang

Elite Mapper

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Taeyang 2016-08-27T03:12:13+00:00

Onur636 wrote:
I seriously don't want to insult you but how do you even justify this mapping?

Fullscreen jumps when there is barely any change in music intensity.

Example one, Taeyang's Extra

Example two, Sonnyc's Expert

If the song would have been actually consistently intense, I might slightly understand your point of view, but it's quite a calm song too.

There isn't even a consistent spacing either, it's one or two (yes I'm having to say this) pp patterns at the beginning of the map and one in the kiai, the rest of the song is just braindead 3 stars.

People with this amount of experience shouldn't do this, especially not in a mapset going for ranked.

I'm gonna politely ask you not to rank this, from a player's point of view.

Come on guys, what just is this...

Cheesecake wrote:
(Taeyang) 01:07:313 (2) - This has no actual beat on it and it's a fullscreen jump like what

Map for PP all you want but at least don't make things up

Shiirn wrote:
Shad0w1and wrote:
make things up, that is common mapping skill.
overmap is accepted and is different from overdone.

i am so triggered by this
this is literally like the exact opposite of what should be considered normal, rational thinking
you realize overmapping even now is shit most of the time except in exceptionally well-done cases and "overdone" is one of the main reasons
this game has turned into progressively higher-velocity bullshit retarded 1/2 rhythmic whack-a-mole

Arphimigon wrote:
Don't pick all maps by asian mapperz, thats not credible.

Kisses wrote:
Shad0w1and wrote:
I don't like that extra, but I see no problem with it. If you really want some good overmapped examples, I can give you examples from 2013 to now.
and do not say they are all bad shit.
also do not hate pp style because you can't play it. someone like them, someone not.
you always have other options from the set.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/135401
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/231691
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219380
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/240627
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/402680
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/402187
A few of these aren't even overmapped but ok

Jace wrote:
Shad0w1and wrote:
you always have other options from the set.
I personally think it's better to not keep quiet and give constructive criticism if you don't like something, not just ignoring it, but each to their own right? It'd be silly for people to just not post things they don't like about the map just because there is other options.

Onur636 wrote:
Shad0w1and wrote:
good overmapped examples
That it EXACTLY the problem here.

I wouldn't even dare to compare this set to some of the maps you've linked.

I wouldn't even call some of them overmapped.

Do you actually have any idea what you're talking about?

Because you should be

lilelf29 wrote:
Honestly imo the "intense" parts of the song really don't deserve the jumps.
There's hardly any change and it's just 1/2 spam mapped over nothing.
Clearly mapped for "haha xd look at my 176 bpm ar9.4 map that's 6* for 5 seconds that I can rank lol"
Aside from the extras I don't see anything wrong with the other difficulties.

Irreversible wrote:
As there is a healthy amount of discussion, I'm deciding to take it down until you've found a consensus with the community.

I do agree that some jumps are partially way too high. It is nothing new and starts to get really boring, I don't get why people keep doing it. The maps are generally fine and actually offer cool patterns - why is there a need to make it ridiculously difficult all of a sudden? we all know the reason yet no one wants to admit it

Cheesecake wrote:
Taeyang

00:13:961 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why do you change the structure of these jumps, they're representing the same drum patterns as 00:11:234 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - where I agree with how you mapped those, having (2) and (3) be stacked near eachother makes sense as they're both the same drum. Then it just changes into big jumps for no reason, like, you've taken the same rhythm and mapped it in two different ways. How do you justify this?

00:27:768 (2) - Literally nothing exists here. This little jump section (00:27:596 (1,2,1,2) - ) would be far better mapped as two sliders to follow those two sustained sounds. I'm all for mapping what the song feels like at that moment, but you'd think something would actually have to exist there for the player to click on, right?

00:49:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Wow it's the same rhythm from earlier again, and it's mapped differently again!

01:07:313 (2) - I mentioned this in my last post but I'll flesh it out more here. So re-iterating that this has no sound, and it's also grouped in with these previous jumps 01:06:120 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - in the same pattern. For those jumps, I'm happy with how they're mapped and I think they represent the music well, but then 01:07:143 (1,2) - comes along and does the same thing, hell it's even bigger than the previous ones. Ironic how I'm trying to get you to make this easier but then I think 01:07:143 (1) - should be a lot more spaced than it currently is, if we're talking about the "feel" of the song and the mapping before hand, this is the jump that should be cross-screen. Not 01:07:313 (2) - , with its, uh, nothing. Hell, 01:07:654 (1) - only has a light vocal on it but then it's even bigger yet than 01:07:143 (1) -

^That paragraph was a big jumble of words that took me like 15 minutes to sort out properly and it still might not make coherent sense, so I'll just summarize.

01:07:143 (1) - Should break from the pattern and have a larger spacing
01:07:313 (2) - Should have much less spacing / not exist as a clickable object
01:07:654 (1) - Should not have the biggest spacing in this section

01:17:029 (2,3,4,5,6) - It surprises me that you don't put more big jumps here since it's the same kind of thing as the jumps I talked about in the last paragraph. I'll include this in here because this part is kinda short but 01:17:029 (2) - the sliderend has a higher pitch note than the slider start, so why do you give the weaker note priority over the stronger note, clicking wise?

While modding this I noticed that you've overmapped some parts and undermapped others, I think for the interest of a good, accurate, fun map you should tone down the overmapped / overdone parts and buff the undermapped parts for a more even difficulty throughout the map. Can't we both agree on that?

It's a shame because I quite like this song but I don't feel it's represented well enough
All fixed Thanks~

ok check all

lemme see now player enjoyable this map than before map

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Left

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Left 2016-08-27T03:23:43+00:00

OoO what

Taeyang

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Taeyang 2016-08-27T03:25:36+00:00

Left wrote:
OoO what

래앵크되면 브아안격 ㄱㅐㅅㅣ 갑니다.

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Left 2016-08-27T03:27:22+00:00

Taeyang wrote:
Left wrote:
OoO what
래앵크되면 브아안격 개시 갑니다.

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㄹㅇㅋㅋㅋㅋㄱ

Nakano Itsuki

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Nakano Itsuki 2016-08-27T03:55:35+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
至少我觉得两首强度差不多。前面有人说quite calm song 我也真是不太懂

以個人而言這首的確沒那麼強，最主要是連kiai都沒有重鼓音，整首歌都沒啥突出的節奏。
以我來言是可以無視的，不過外國人就不是這樣說了

不過這樣，Taeyang的確做得比較過火。。sonnyc的我還算能接受

Pata-Mon

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Pata-Mon 2016-08-27T04:03:43+00:00

StarrStyx wrote:
Pata-Mon wrote:
至少我觉得两首强度差不多。前面有人说quite calm song 我也真是不太懂
以個人而言這首的確沒那麼強，最主要是連kiai都沒有重鼓音，整首歌都沒啥突出的節奏。
以我來言是可以無視的，不過外國人就不是這樣說了

不過這樣，Taeyang的確做得比較過火。。sonnyc的我還算能接受

taeyang直接改成5*了……wtf

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-08-27T04:08:05+00:00

Ok it's a 5 stars Insane now, I will update as soon as I go back home.
Also for Sonnyc's jump I really see no problem, it's the only extra in the set now and the jump is fine.

Taeyang

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Taeyang 2016-08-27T04:28:09+00:00

hi everyone i made vote page to see player and mapper which one prefer origin ver and fixed ver

https://taeyang1.typeform.com/to/FbNUjf

---------------
if you have better way,teach me plz

繁体字看懂太难。。
00:11:234 (1) - 当我听到这歌 , 我感到一种强烈的印象（更KIAI 部分）
所以，我喜欢这样
这是一点儿修改的6star。
http://puu.sh/qPN3I/dde2f39b40.osu

Pata-Mon

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Pata-Mon 2016-08-27T04:32:04+00:00

Taeyang wrote:
hi everyone i made vote page to see player and mapper which one prefer origin ver and fixed ver

https://taeyang1.typeform.com/to/FbNUjf

---------------
if you have better way,teach me plz

繁体字看懂太难。。
00:11:234 (1) - 当我听到这歌 , 我感到一种强烈的印象（更KIAI 部分）
所以，我喜欢这样
这是一点儿修改的6star。
http://puu.sh/qPN3I/dde2f39b40.osu

~~说实在的我觉得都挺好~~←虽然跟没说一样

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2016-08-27T04:39:47+00:00

習慣的順序是

“繁體字太難看懂” or “看懂繁體字太難”

Taeyang

Elite Mapper

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Taeyang 2016-08-27T04:55:43+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
習慣的順序是

“繁體字太難看懂” or “看懂繁體字太難”

lol 谢谢你教我,回国以后我忘记了汉语

Pata-Mon wrote:
StarrStyx wrote:
taeyang直接改成5*了……wtf

i'm star rate magician :3

Beomsan

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Beomsan 2016-08-27T05:06:47+00:00

xd

sahuang

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Topic Starter

sahuang 2016-08-27T07:05:47+00:00

ok, Taeyang's Exra, jumps are nerfed and thanks guys for your concern, they are really helpful.
I guess everything should be ready now.
please let us know if you still have concerns!

Taeyang

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Taeyang 2016-08-27T12:24:12+00:00

vote result
http://puu.sh/qQbPG/e63b209dc6.zip
Thanks a lot opinions~
I ignored abuse message and meme(Network ID 0140dcf0f5,a15974f976

finally i decide, 5star ver too easy ,so i just nerfed
ok let try again with a little nerf version~

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