RedBall wrote:

M4M 리퀘 왔습니다!

칼럼
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Oblivion

- 00:43:493 (43493|1) - 삭제 (01:05:949 (65949|0) - 여기에 하신것처럼 하시는게 좋을거 같아요. 소리가 꽤 작은편이라 싱글노트가 적당할거 같애요)
- 01:30:160 (90160|2) - 삭제? (소리가 01:30:072 (90072|1,90072|0) - 하고 똑같은거 같은데 거기만 트리플이어서... 근데 뭐 딱히 제거 안하셔도 상관은 없어요 ㅋㅋ)
- 02:26:826 (146826|3) - 칼럼2로 옮기는것도 괜찮을거 같애요 (02:27:177 (147177|3) - 소리 강조 + 02:36:826 (156826|3,156826|2) - 여기하고도 소리가 꽤 달라요)
--> + 심한 jack이 걱정되시면 02:26:651 (146651|2,146739|2) - 이거 두개를 칼럼 4로 옮기세요
-----> 사실 마음같아선 약간 http://puu.sh/ptzQ5/392a908544.jpg 이런식으로 02:26:826(146826|3) - 이것도 없애고 싶지만... (02:36:826 (156826|3,156826|2) - 이것만큼 소리가 큰편이 아닌데다가 리듬타기가 약간 불편해서리... 제 실력 부족일 수도 있으니까 그냥 스킵하셔도 돼요 ㅋㅋ;;)
- 02:32:177 (152177|0,152265|1,152353|0) - 삭제 + 02:32:089 (152089|3) - 02:32:440 에 끝나는 롱놋으로 바꿔주세요 (02:34:896 (154896|1) - 와 비슷하게?)
- 03:05:861 (185861|3,185949|3,186037|2) - 삭제 + 03:05:774 (185774|2) - 03:06:124 에 끝나는 롱놋으로 (^)
- 04:07:791 (247791|3,247791|2) - Ctrl + H 그리고 04:07:879 (247879|2,247879|1,247879|0) - 요것도 Ctrl + H (03:54:721 (234721|3,234721|2,234809|1,234809|0,234896|3,234896|2,234896|1) - 요런식의 패턴을 따라가는게 더 리듬감도 있고 핸드밸런스도 좋은거 같애요 ㅎㅎ)
- 04:19:019 (259019|3,259019|2) - Ctrl + H 그리고 04:19:107 (259107|0,259107|1,259107|2) - 요것도 Ctrl + H (^)
- 두번째 kiai 에서 처럼 02:49:195 (169195|3,169195|2) - Ctrl + H 그리고 02:49:282 (169282|2,169282|1,169282|0) - 요것도 Ctrl + H 하는건 어떠세요?
- kiai time 전반적으로 04:19:282 (259282|2,259282|0,259282|1,259370|2,259370|1,259370|0,259458|3,259458|2) - 요런거나 04:35:949 (275949|0,275949|1,276037|1,276037|3,276037|2,276124|1,276124|2,276124|3) - 요런 패턴이 엄청 자주나오는데요, jack이 약간 과하다 싶지만 첫페이지에 훌륭하신 굇수분들이 모딩하신걸 봐서 더이상은 노코멘트..큼큼..

사실 에디터 보자마자 제가 이걸 깰수나 있나 싶었지만 노트의 강도나 분위기 같은게 곡이랑 잘맞아서 95.03% 로 아슬아슬하게 S 땄네요..ㅋㅋ (제가 jack에 엄청 약한지라...ㅋㅋㅋㅋ)

조흔 마라톤 맵! 랭크 되길... 스타 받으세용

굿럭이요~

Cipse wrote:

No kudosu

The background is still missing for me D:

Oblivion

Section 3: 02:01:563 - to 03:08:931 -

02:27:528 - add a second note. The sound is the same as with 02:27:353 (147353|2,147353|1,147396|0,147396|3,147440|2,147440|1,147484|3,147484|0) - and it's on the first beat of the bar

02:28:230 (148230|1,148230|3,148230|2) - the sound here is pretty weak. I'd change this to one SN

Makes these single notes. I don't think that their sound is strong enough to justify a more than one note

Occurrences

02:24:633 (144633|1,144633|3,144633|0) -
02:25:686 (145686|2,145686|1) -
02:31:475 (151475|0,151475|3,151475|1) -

Make these doubles. Their sounds are stronger than the drums from above but I don't think that they need three notes

Occurrences

02:27:177 (147177|3) -
02:29:984 (149984|1,149984|0,149984|2) -
02:31:212 (151212|2,151212|1,151212|3) -
02:42:353 (162353|1) -
02:43:668 (163668|0,163668|3,163668|1) -
02:47:177 (167177|1) - not the same sound, but I'd say it's strong enough for a double
02:48:405 (168405|0) -
02:49:633 (169633|3) -
02:50:861 (170861|3) -
02:52:440 (172440|0) -
02:53:668 (173668|1) -
02:55:160 (175160|0) -
02:57:879 (177879|3) -
02:58:931 (178931|2) -
03:08:142 (188142|0) -

Section 4: 03:08:931 - to 03:51:037 -

03:09:809 (189809|1,189809|0) - change to one SN: same sounds at 03:09:282 (189282|3) -, 03:12:089 (192089|0) -, 03:12:616 (192616|3) -
03:10:335 (190335|3,190335|2) - ^

03:17:703 - add a LN here, same sound as 03:15:247 (195247|0) -

This section is pretty clean

Section 5: 03:53:844 - to 04:38:756 -

04:02:177 - missing two notes here, for the bass

04:18:405 (258405|3,258405|1,258405|0,258405|2) - I wouldn't say this deserves a four note chord. Change to two or three

04:20:028 (260028|0) - ghost?

I'd say these drums need doubles:

Occurrences

03:57:002 (237002|3) -
03:59:107 (239107|3) -
04:03:931 (243931|0) -
04:05:247 (245247|1) -
04:05:774 (245774|3) -
04:06:300 (246300|3) -
04:08:668 (248668|3) -
04:10:160 (250160|0) -
04:17:002 (257002|0) -
04:21:563 (261563|3) -
04:22:265 (262265|2) -

Section 6: 04:38:756 - to 05:54:546 -

05:00:861 - I think this deserves another note

This section is pretty consistent as well

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Hopefully, these mods weren't annoying
Good luck

Kawawa wrote:

feedback for the pattern

20:36 *Wonki is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/972236 goreshit - the nature of dying]
20:36 Wonki: 쉽게바꿔봤는데
20:36 Wonki: 아직도어렵다네여 사람들이
20:37 Kawawa: 00:32:265 (32265|0,32353|1,32528|1,32616|2,32791|0,32879|1,33054|2,33142|3,33317|0,33405|1) - 
20:37 Kawawa: 이런부분들 좀 애매하네요
20:37 Kawawa: 소리가 있긴한데 충분히 몇몇 사운드는
20:38 Kawawa: 스킵해도될듯한데
20:38 Kawawa: 00:32:353 (32353|1,32528|1,32616|2,32879|1,33054|2,33142|3,33405|1) - 
20:38 Kawawa: 여기만 따라가고
20:39 Wonki: 저한테는 소리다들리느데
20:39 Wonki: 음
20:39 Kawawa: 아 시발
20:39 Kawawa: 끼욥떄문에
20:39 Kawawa: 웃겨서 못하겠네
20:39 Wonki: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
20:39 Kawawa:  아 소리 다들려요
20:39 Kawawa: 근데
20:39 Kawawa: 충분히 배제해도 될 사운드라
20:40 Kawawa: 오히려 배제해도 될 사운드를 표현한게
20:40 Kawawa: 더 애매한 느낌이 되버려서
20:40 Wonki: 안빼던거빼니까
20:40 Wonki: 어색하게느껴지는건지
20:41 Wonki: 아님그냥어색한건지모르겠네여
20:42 Kawawa: 흠 
20:42 Kawawa: 한번 물어보고
20:43 Wonki: 약간
20:43 Wonki: 어렵나여?손배치가?
20:43 Kawawa: 손배치도 있긴한ㄷ
20:43 Kawawa: 전 노트양이
20:43 Kawawa: 약간 모호해서
20:43 Kawawa: 아까 들어왔었는데
20:43 Kawawa: 나갔네
20:43 Wonki: 그래도
20:43 Wonki: 전보다
20:43 Wonki: 아니
20:44 Wonki: 어제보다
20:44 Kawawa: 예
20:44 Wonki: 훨괜찮아졌져?
20:44 Kawawa: 그때보단 나아요
20:44 Wonki: 예
20:44 Wonki: 어제
20:44 Wonki: 새벽에
20:44 Kawawa: 우선 저보다 4k쪽에 더 능한 
20:44 Wonki: 4시간동안
20:44 Wonki: 리맵했어여
20:44 Kawawa: 우선 저보다 4k쪽에 더 능한 사람한테 첫버블 받아두면
20:44 Kawawa: 저도 불확실한 느낌이 사라질테니
20:45 Wonki: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ예
20:45 Wonki: 하긴
20:45 Wonki: 들어와서
20:45 Wonki: 겜하는걸못봄
20:46 Kawawa: 음 우선
20:46 Kawawa: 간단히 모딩해드릴게요 채팅으로
20:46 Wonki: 예
20:46 Wonki: 쿠도받아가여
20:46 Wonki: 버블도 쿠도줘야대여?
20:46 Kawawa: 아뇨 그때 기간이
20:46 Kawawa: 얼마나 텀이되냐에 따라 갈리져
20:46 Kawawa: 00:32:265 (32265|0,32353|1,32528|1,32616|2,32791|0,32879|1,33054|2,33142|3,33317|0,33405|1) - 여긴 좀 변경했으면 하구
20:47 Wonki: 이거
20:47 Wonki: 바꾸면
20:47 Kawawa: 전 근데 
20:47 Kawawa: 00:32:002 (32002|1,32002|0,32089|3) - 자꾸 이 두부분이
20:47 Wonki: 제가 어색해서안될거같은데
20:47 Kawawa: 노트양이 반대로 정의된거 같은 느낌이드는데
20:47 Kawawa: 00:33:668 (33668|0,33668|1,33844|0,33844|1,34019|2) - 이것도 그렇고
20:47 Kawawa: 00:34:195 (34195|1,34195|0,34370|3) - 
20:47 Wonki: 그런가여?
20:47 Kawawa: 네
20:47 Kawawa: 보통 음악 구조갈때도
20:48 Kawawa: 보통 저렇게 자주나오는 드럼을 
20:48 Wonki: 00:45:467 (45467|0,45489|1,45510|2,45532|3) -
20:48 Wonki: 이런소리들때문에
20:48 Kawawa: 그냥 다음 부각 되는 사운드를 준비하기위한
20:48 Wonki: 1개로해쓴ㄴ데
20:48 Kawawa: 이거는
20:48 Kawawa: 상관없어요
20:48 Kawawa: 긁는거는 1개로 긁어도되구여
20:48 Wonki: 00:47:440 (47440|2,47616|2) -
20:48 Wonki: 얘네는여
20:48 Kawawa: 그건1
20:49 Wonki: 잠시만여
20:49 *Wonki is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/692640 goreshit - burn this moment into the retina of my eye [fear]]
20:49 Wonki: 얘좀
20:49 Wonki: 잠시봐주시겠어여?
20:50 Kawawa: 예
20:50 Wonki: 한달반전에
20:50 Wonki: 이걸참고를좀했었어여
20:51 Wonki: 드럼소리2개한이유도
20:51 Kawawa: 음
20:51 Wonki: 참고해서그런거기도하구여
20:51 Kawawa: 이것도 제 입장에서 볼땐 
20:52 Kawawa: 메인 패턴 파트가 좀 애매한데
20:52 Kawawa: 여기도 리버스로 
20:52 Kawawa: 표현하긴했네요
20:52 Kawawa: 그럼 이걸 따라가서 저기를 킵하는식으로 
20:52 Wonki: 제가들었을때근데
20:52 Kawawa: 사유를 지어도 될듯하네요
20:52 Wonki: 드럼소리가 좀더크긴커여
20:52 Wonki: 네
20:52 Kawawa: 그럼 저랑
20:52 Kawawa: 패턴쪽을 손보죠
20:52 Wonki: 옝
20:54 Kawawa: 00:58:931 (58931|1,59107|2) - 이게 col 바꿔주세요
20:54 Kawawa: 그리고 00:59:633 (59633|3,59809|3) - 이걸 col3으로 가면
20:54 Wonki: 전
20:54 Kawawa: 00:59:458 (59458|2) - 여기서부터 이어지는 동일한 사운드때문에 더 적합할거같은데
20:54 Wonki: 이맵에서
20:54 Wonki: 젤거슬리는게
20:54 Wonki: 예
20:56 Wonki: 사운드
20:56 Wonki: 다르지않아여?
20:56 Kawawa: 오호 다르네
20:57 Wonki: 01:05:949 -
20:57 Wonki: 여기 지울까여?
21:00 Kawawa: 음
21:00 Kawawa: 지우는게 나을듯하네요
21:00 Kawawa: 아니다
21:00 Kawawa: 없으면 리듬 유지하는데
21:01 Kawawa: 오히려 어중간할거같은데
21:01 Kawawa: 소리가 들리긴 해서 
21:01 Kawawa: 있는게 나을거가타요
21:01 Wonki: 넹
21:01 Wonki: 예
21:03 Kawawa: 으 죄송여 제가 계속
21:03 Kawawa: 집어나가야하는데
21:03 Kawawa: 다른 채팅떔시
21:03 Kawawa: 혹시 불확실한 부분있으시면
21:03 Kawawa: 계속 말해주심되여
21:03 Wonki: 옝
21:03 Kawawa: 01:17:440 (77440|3,77528|3) - 
21:03 Kawawa: 이거 잭으로 형용할수가 없을듯 한데
21:04 Kawawa: 같은 사운드의 악기가 있는것도 아니고, 버스트 파트에서 2 2 2 2 2 하고 마지막에 3노트가 된것도 아니라서
21:04 Kawawa: 01:17:528 (77528|3) - 이걸 그냥 2로 옮기시는게 나을듯해요.
21:04 Wonki: 옮겨볼게여
21:05 Wonki: 예그리고뒤에반대로헀어여
21:05 Kawawa: 01:22:265 (82265|1,82265|0) - 이거는
21:06 Kawawa: col 34로 가서
21:06 Kawawa: 하는게 느낌이 더 살듯한데요?
21:06 Kawawa: 01:22:177 (82177|3,82177|2,82265|1,82265|0) - 이거 자체가 같은 느낌이기도하고
21:06 Wonki: 01:22:177 (82177|3,82177|2,82265|1,82265|0) -
21:06 Wonki: 이거두개
21:06 Kawawa: ㅇㅁㅇㅁㅁ
21:06 Wonki: ctrl h할게여
21:06 Kawawa: 아뇨
21:06 Wonki: 어머지
21:06 Kawawa: 이렇게
21:06 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pLlFt/7d74d2ad39.jpg
21:07 Wonki: 다른부분봤었음
21:07 Wonki: 바꿈여
21:07 Kawawa: 01:24:019 (84019|0,84282|0) - 
21:08 Kawawa: 여긴 지워도될듯해요
21:08 Kawawa: 2번쪽을지우던 1번쪽을 지우던
21:08 Kawawa: 01:24:546 (84546|1,84546|0) - 그리고 이걸 34로
21:08 Wonki: 2번삭제
21:08 Kawawa: 01:24:458 (84458|1,84458|0,84546|0,84546|1) - 여기와 매치되는게 아니라
21:08 Wonki: ㅎ랄게여
21:08 Kawawa: 01:24:633 (84633|2,84633|3) - 여기와 이어져야해요
21:08 Kawawa: ㅇㅁㅇㅇㅁ
21:08 Wonki: 그렇네여
21:08 Wonki: 바꿧어여
21:09 Wonki: ㅇㅁㅇㅇㅁ 가뭔가했더니
21:09 Wonki: 소리다른거였ㄱ두나
21:09 Kawawa: 네
21:09 Kawawa: 걍 저렇게 표현한거라
21:09 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:09 Wonki: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:09 Wonki: 아니순간
21:09 Kawawa: 01:27:528 (87528|0) - 끼요오오오옵
21:09 Wonki: 이분이머하는거지했는데
21:09 Wonki: 저건
21:09 Wonki: 안누를래여
21:09 Kawawa: 01:27:616 (87616|3,87616|2) - 흠
21:09 Wonki: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:09 Wonki: 바꾸라해도
21:09 Wonki: 안바꿀거야
21:09 Kawawa: 이거 고스트아닌가
21:09 Kawawa: 안들리는데 사운드
21:09 Wonki: 25%
21:09 Kawawa: 25%로 해도 
21:10 Kawawa: 2코드로 쓸만한 건덕지도 안보이고
21:10 Wonki: 잉
21:10 Wonki: 지울게여
21:10 Kawawa: 약간 미세하게
21:10 Kawawa: 들리긴하는데
21:10 Kawawa: 오히려 없는게 나아요
21:10 Wonki: 그냥지우져
21:10 Wonki: 깔끔할듯그게
21:10 Wonki: 예
21:10 Kawawa: 가능한한 명확한 사운드를 유지하되
21:10 Kawawa: 주변은 배제한다
21:10 Kawawa: 생각하심되요
21:10 Kawawa: 01:27:791 - 1개삭제
21:10 Wonki: 옝
21:11 Wonki: 삭제완료
21:12 Kawawa: 01:27:528 - 여기도 그냥 4에 1개만
21:12 Kawawa: 살리는게 나을거같은데요?
21:12 Kawawa: 2개로 유지하고 싶으세요?
21:12 Kawawa: 1개로 유지하는경우
21:12 Wonki: 잠시만여
21:12 Kawawa: 01:30:335 - 여기에도 1개 추가해서
21:12 Kawawa: 일관성을 유지할수 있긴한데
21:12 Wonki: 그렇게하졍
21:13 Kawawa: 01:34:546 (94546|0,94633|0) - 잭으로 형용할수 없어요
21:13 Kawawa: 01:34:633 (94633|0) - 이거 3으로 가고
21:13 Kawawa: 01:34:721 (94721|2) - 1로
21:13 Wonki: 저는
21:13 Wonki: 잠시만여
21:14 Wonki: http://puu.sh/pLm03/b97dbd2ee7.jpg
21:14 Wonki: 이렇게는어때여
21:14 Kawawa: 그거도 되구요
21:14 Wonki: 옙
21:15 Wonki: 01:35:072 -
21:15 Wonki: 얘랑
21:15 Wonki: 01:35:247 - 얘랑소리다른데
21:15 Wonki: 그냥바꿀까여?
21:15 Wonki: 뒤에 34로
21:16 Kawawa: 예
21:16 Kawawa: 01:44:019 (104019|3,104019|2,104107|1,104107|0,104195|3,104195|2,104282|0,104370|1,104458|2,104458|3,104546|0) - 
21:16 Kawawa: 이건 확실히 개선되야할듯
21:16 Kawawa: 01:44:019 - 01:44:195 - 01:44:282 -  01:44:370 -  01:44:546 - 01:44:721 - 
21:16 Kawawa: 동일한 드럼이 구성되어있잖아요
21:17 Kawawa: 여기를 부각시켜야지, 01:44:107 (104107|0,104107|1,104282|0,104370|1) - 이런식으로 둬버리면 
21:17 Kawawa: 느낌자체가 애매하게 작용해요
21:17 Wonki: 바꿀게여
21:18 Kawawa: 이런식
21:18 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pLmb2/bdf8c1de88.jpg
21:18 Kawawa: 이거 어려워보여도 되게 쉬워요
21:18 Kawawa: 느낌도 살고
21:19 Wonki: 근데
21:19 Wonki: 01:44:195 (104195|1,104195|0,104282|0,104282|1,104370|0,104370|1) -
21:19 Wonki: 얘네음이달라서
21:19 Kawawa: 이거 동일한데여?
21:20 Wonki: 잉?
21:20 Wonki: 다른데영
21:20 Kawawa: 당연히 올라가는 느낌이 들법하긴한데
21:20 Kawawa: 잭으로 형용이 될수 있는 부분이라 
21:20 Wonki: 소리제대로키고들어봤는데
21:21 Wonki: 확실히올라가여
21:21 Kawawa: 알아요 올라가는 느낌이 드는건
21:21 Kawawa: 근데 결국 동일한 코드로 쓰인거라서
21:21 Kawawa: 이게 잭으로 형용 될수 있어요
21:21 Wonki: 그렇군요
21:21 Kawawa: 그 아랫파트에서 코드가 다른데 잭으로 쓰인경우하곤
21:21 Kawawa: 다른거라
21:21 Wonki: 누가물어보면
21:22 Wonki: 그럼그렇게할게여
21:22 Kawawa: 혹은 계속 12,34,12
21:22 Kawawa: 로 쓰기에는
21:22 Kawawa: 너무 밋밋하지않나요
21:22 Kawawa: 전 패턴이
21:22 Kawawa: 차별성을 두는게 더 나을거같은뎅
21:22 Wonki: 그래도일관성있게가는거라
21:22 Wonki: 근데
21:22 Kawawa: 아 슈발
21:22 Wonki: 그냥
21:22 Kawawa: 이거 아직도 1분40초네
21:22 Wonki: 12에둬도괜찮을듯
21:22 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ언제끝나
21:22 Wonki: 예
21:23 Wonki: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:23 Wonki: 02:05:072 -
21:23 Wonki: 어떻게안되려나여
21:23 Wonki: 여기변속넣고싶은데
21:24 Wonki: 그냥표현한것만으로된건강..
21:24 Kawawa: 02:01:212 (121212|3,121212|2,121300|1,121300|0) - 
21:24 Kawawa: 이거 컨트롤 H하는게 나을듯
21:24 Kawawa: 02:01:300 (121300|0,121388|0) - 이거자체가
21:25 Kawawa: 잭으로 쓸수가 없어서
21:25 Kawawa: 01:58:142 (118142|0,118230|0) -  01:48:668 (108668|0,108756|0) - 
21:25 Wonki: 그러네여
21:25 Kawawa: 이런부분은되요
21:25 Kawawa: 저거 변속은
21:25 Kawawa: 비추천하는데
21:25 Wonki: 그래여?
21:26 Kawawa: 달아보셔도
21:26 Wonki: 그럼냅두져머
21:26 Kawawa: 되긴해요
21:26 Wonki: 약하게 0.9로ㅓ해볼까..
21:26 Kawawa: 아 
21:26 Kawawa: 이거 다 못볼거같다
21:27 Wonki: 힘들어서여?
21:27 Wonki: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:27 Kawawa: 예
21:27 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:27 Wonki: 그럼
21:27 Wonki: 키아이부분쪽만봐주세여
21:27 Kawawa: 한 파트만 볼게요
21:27 Wonki: 옝
21:27 Kawawa: 02:24:896 (144896|1) - 이걸 오히려 1쪽에 두는게 나을듯?
21:27 Wonki: 두번째가
21:27 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pLmBW/f1c606d70d.jpg
21:27 Kawawa: 이렇게두면
21:28 Kawawa: 파란색으로 제가 잡아둔게
21:28 Kawawa: 같은 스네어 사운드이고
21:28 Kawawa: 34가 연달아 비프음이
21:28 Kawawa: 2번연속 나오는게
21:28 Kawawa: 표현되니
21:28 Wonki: 네옮김여
21:28 Kawawa: 02:25:335 (145335|1) - 지우는게 나을듯한데
21:29 Wonki: 넹
21:29 Kawawa: 02:26:651 (146651|1,146651|0,146651|3,146739|2,146826|1,146826|3,146826|0) - 
21:29 Kawawa: 이부분도
21:29 Kawawa: 02:24:896 (144896|2,144896|3,144984|3,144984|2,145072|1,145072|0) - 이런느낌으로
21:29 Kawawa: 표현해주셔야
21:30 Wonki: 바꿈영
21:30 Kawawa: 02:28:581 (148581|1,148668|3,148756|2,148844|0) - 이런식으로 퍼지게끔 두기보다는
21:31 Kawawa: 02:28:668 (148668|3,148844|0) - 이거 자체가 동일한 비프음이니
21:31 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pLmM3/9f47eeaaf4.jpg 대강 이런느낌으로
21:31 Kawawa: 같은 COL에 묶어두시는게 
21:32 Wonki: 예
21:32 Wonki: 바꿈여
21:32 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pLmOA/6d5f464486.jpg
21:32 Kawawa: 위쪽도 이런식 
21:32 Wonki: 옙
21:33 Kawawa:  02:39:546 (159546|2) - 2로이동
21:34 Wonki: 넹
21:35 Kawawa: 03:00:160 (180160|0,180247|0) - 여기도 피해주시구
21:35 Wonki: 넹바꿈여
21:36 Kawawa: 03:07:616 (187616|0,187703|0) - 
21:37 Kawawa: 네 여기까지네여
21:38 Wonki: 네체력남으신거같은데
21:38 Wonki: 두번째가시져
21:38 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:38 Kawawa: 아니
21:38 Kawawa: 너무 힘들어요
21:38 Wonki: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
21:38 Kawawa: 노래가 저랑 안맞는것도 있긴한데
21:39 Kawawa: ㅜㅜ
21:39 Wonki: 그래영
21:39 Wonki: 그럼
21:39 Wonki: 하나만더봐주세여
21:39 Kawawa: 어디여?
21:39 Wonki: 04:03:317 (243317|3,243317|1,243405|0,243405|2,243493|0,243493|2,243493|3,243668|0,243668|2) -
21:39 Wonki: 애매해여
21:39 Kawawa: 흠 
21:39 Kawawa: 힘들거같은데 저기
21:40 Kawawa: 이게 
21:40 Wonki: 저기
21:40 Kawawa: 메인스트림파트가 
21:40 Wonki: 제가생각한게
21:40 Kawawa: 패턴자체가 너무 
21:40 Wonki: 하나있어여
21:40 Wonki: 네
21:40 Kawawa: 전체적으로 어려워서
21:40 Kawawa: 무거운느낌이 과하거든여
21:40 Wonki: http://puu.sh/pLncu/1ac4d005ae.jpg
21:40 Wonki: 흠
21:41 Kawawa: 저는 불확실한 느낌이긴한데
21:41 Kawawa: 이건 BN마다 생각이 다를수도 있으니
21:41 Kawawa: 그 처음에
21:42 Kawawa: 맨첨 맵텟했을때
21:42 Kawawa: 이정도까지 무거운느낌은 아니었던거같은데
21:42 Wonki: 네
21:42 Kawawa: 많이 버프됬나요 노트양이?
21:42 Wonki: 아니여
21:42 Wonki: 약간
21:42 Kawawa: 패턴이 과해진건가?
21:42 Wonki: 줄었을걸여?

EedowChyan0w0 wrote:

Osu need more Breakcore like this!
It's an Excellent map!
[My Mod]
01:26:300 (86300|1,86300|0,86344|3,86344|2,86388|1,86388|0,86431|2,86431|3) - I think They are Stairs
- I follow 01:25:774 (85774|0,85774|3,85949|3,85949|0,86124|2,86124|3,86212|2,86212|3) -

01:38:581 (98581|0,98581|1,98624|3,98624|2,98668|0,98668|1,98712|2,98712|3) - Stairs,too
same reason of top

02:27:353 (147353|1,147353|0,147396|2,147396|3,147440|1,147440|0,147484|3,147484|2) - ↑
^

05:18:405 (318405|0,318449|1,318493|2,318537|1,318581|3,318624|2,318668|1,318712|2) - How about this?Img
change different pattern

[ Dark_Choco ] wrote:

개인적으로

03:11:914 - 이부분 03:16:826 - 와 똑같이,03:12:791 - 이부분을 12라인 2연타 34라인 2연타로 표현하시는게 좋을것같다고 생각해요 - 손밸런스가 낭ㄴ맞습니다 그렇게바꾸면

03:50:686 - 이부분은 전에 이런멜로디에서 그냥 1234트릴로만 했었는데 여긴 왜 이렇게 만드셨는지 궁금합니다
여기서 패턴이 달라지는 이유를 모르겠어요 - 2번째 키아이가 어렵다는걸 미리 알려주기위한? 그런거에여

05:18:054 - 여긴 한라인 2연타 다른라인 2연타로 표현하시거나 05:20:510 - 여기랑 똑같이 하는게 좋아보이는데요? 소리가달라서 안되네영

개인적인 의견입니다

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[Shana Lesus] wrote:

Hi Wonki, random mod

00:00:510 (510|2) - end here 00:04:107 -
00:04:048 (4048|0) - start here 00:04:107 -
00:04:107 (4107|0) - end here 00:08:142 -
00:08:113 (8113|1) - start here 00:08:142 -
00:12:089 (12089|3) - end here 00:16:563 -
00:16:505 (16505|1) - start here 00:16:563 -
00:20:423 (20423|2) - end here 00:24:458 -
00:24:399 (24399|0) - start here 00:24:458 -

please, fix this lns, good luck

Wonki wrote:

[ Dark_Choco ] wrote:

개인적으로

03:11:914 - 이부분 03:16:826 - 와 똑같이,03:12:791 - 이부분을 12라인 2연타 34라인 2연타로 표현하시는게 좋을것같다고 생각해요 - 손밸런스가 낭ㄴ맞습니다 그렇게바꾸면

03:50:686 - 이부분은 전에 이런멜로디에서 그냥 1234트릴로만 했었는데 여긴 왜 이렇게 만드셨는지 궁금합니다
여기서 패턴이 달라지는 이유를 모르겠어요 - 2번째 키아이가 어렵다는걸 미리 알려주기위한? 그런거에여

05:18:054 - 여긴 한라인 2연타 다른라인 2연타로 표현하시거나 05:20:510 - 여기랑 똑같이 하는게 좋아보이는데요? 소리가달라서 안되네영

개인적인 의견입니다

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Cipse wrote:

~mod in 24h it was meant to be finished today but I had some mods to apply

Dammit, only half-done - and I took three hours too long :/
I'll finish this in another post, sorry (like before D:)

SPOILER

Please give me replies, especially on the ones you reject. I don't want to manually check the changes

aaaa

Modding stuff
00:54:195 (54195|0,54195|1) - remove a note. The sound is the same as 00:54:546 (54546|3) -, 00:54:896 (54896|3) -, 00:55:247 (55247|3) -, etc

00:54:721 (54721|1,54721|0) - take it down to one note. Same sound as 00:57:002 (57002|3) -, 00:57:353 (57353|0) -, 01:03:142 (63142|0) -, etc (if not softer)
01:13:844 (73844|1,73844|0) - ^

Can you please check the timings of these notes? I think they're snapped to 1/16, not 1/6. For example, I think 00:55:715 (55715|2) - goes to 00:55:708 - and 00:55:891 (55891|2) - goes to 00:55:883 -. Preferably ask a few other people as well

Occurances

00:55:715 (55715|2) -
00:55:891 (55891|2) -

00:56:241 (56241|3) -
00:56:417 (56417|3) -
00:58:347 (58347|2) -
00:58:522 (58522|2) -

01:00:101 (60101|1) -
01:00:277 (60277|2) -
01:00:627 (60627|2) -
01:00:803 (60803|2) -

01:01:855 (61855|1) -

01:02:908 (62908|2) -
01:03:259 (63259|1) -
01:03:610 (63610|3) -
01:03:961 (63961|2) -

01:09:926 (69926|1) -
01:10:101 (70101|2) -

01:11:329 (71329|2) -
01:11:505 (71505|1) -
01:12:031 (72031|1) -
01:12:206 (72206|1) -

01:13:084 (73084|3) -

01:20:101 (80101|1) - this is snapped to 01:20:072 -

01:27:616 - missing a note here. Same sound as 01:27:791 (87791|2) -, 01:27:835 (87835|1) -, 01:30:072 (90072|1,90072|0) -, etc

01:30:335 (90335|0) - remove this. The same sound can be found at 00:42:616 -, 01:52:791 -, 03:19:809 -, 03:22:616 - and 04:49:633 -

01:38:230 - add another note. Same as 01:38:624 (98624|2,98624|3) -, 01:41:739 (101739|2,101739|1) -, 01:42:089 (102089|1,102089|2) -, etc
01:38:317 - ^

01:40:423 (100423|3) - ghost

01:44:195 - here maybe try this? You had something similar previous and it was changed (I kept the old version) but I'd still want you to consider this. Mine on the left, your's on the right

01:50:291 - there's a note here, if you want to add it

03:09:809 (189809|0,189809|1) - remove a note. Same as 03:09:282 (189282|3) -, 03:11:563 (191563|3) -, 03:12:089 (192089|3) -
03:10:335 (190335|2,190335|3) - ^
03:11:212 (191212|2,191212|3) - ^
03:12:616 (192616|3,192616|2) - ^. These are the only inconsistencies, with the sound, in the entire section. I don't know why they were all at the start, though

03:31:059 - I think there is a note missing here, although it might be a bit difficult to play so I'm not sure if you want it

03:51:037 (231037|2) - ghost

04:45:510 (285510|1) - move this to 04:45:598 -
04:46:212 (286212|0) - ghost

05:04:984 (304984|0) - ghost

05:07:528 (307528|1,307528|0) - remove a note. This has the same sound as 05:07:002 (307002|3) -, 05:07:177 (307177|3) -, 05:07:703 (307703|0) -

05:11:388 (311388|0) - making this a LN would reflect on the music better

Miscellaneous
For some reason I don't know the reason behind the triplets between 02:24:019 - and 03:08:844 - then between 03:53:844 - and 04:38:668 - (whenever Kiai is active). I feel kinda stupid so can you explain it to me

There's this one sound that you've mapped in different ways - which can be found at 00:54:546 (54546|3) -, 01:10:510 (70510|0) -, 04:48:931 (288931|0,288931|1) - and 05:05:072 (305072|2,305072|1) - (I just picked two random examples from both sections). Between 00:31:739 - and 01:13:844 - you've mapped this sound with one SN but you mapped later mapped this with two SNs (most of the time), between 04:38:756 - and 05:12:353 -. Is this intentional or is the inconsistency an accident?
If you want it changed, I'll include all the timings in the next mod.
If you don't want it changed, 04:54:721 - and 04:56:124 - need a second note for consistency.

This map has improved a lot. Nice work

Garalulu wrote:

끼요옵 버블!

Wonki wrote:

Cipse wrote:

Miscellaneous
For some reason I don't know the reason behind the triplets between 02:24:019 - and 03:08:844 - then between 03:53:844 - and 04:38:668 - (whenever Kiai is active). I feel kinda stupid so can you explain it to me

There's this one sound that you've mapped in different ways - which can be found at 00:54:546 (54546|3) -, 01:10:510 (70510|0) -, 04:48:931 (288931|0,288931|1) - and 05:05:072 (305072|2,305072|1) - (I just picked two random examples from both sections). Between 00:31:739 - and 01:13:844 - you've mapped this sound with one SN but you mapped later mapped this with two SNs (most of the time), between 04:38:756 - and 05:12:353 -. Is this intentional or is the inconsistency an accident?
If you want it changed, I'll include all the timings in the next mod.
If you don't want it changed, 04:54:721 - and 04:56:124 - need a second note for consistency.

- R e b a - wrote:

우리 애기 장하다

Level 51 wrote:

Please at the very least change the title to "oblivion" (no caps). This is a very important change that should be made because this is a goreshit song. Thank you for your time and consideration.

- R e b a - wrote:

행운의 포니

Garalulu wrote:

행운의포니

Evening wrote:

Quite sure this amount of hitsound effort put in into this map is not acceptable, will give a detailed mod in a bit as I'm not in agreement with most of the patterning.

Did anyone even bother checking hitsounds? lmao

Evening wrote:

Quite sure this amount of hitsound effort put in into this map is not acceptable, will give a detailed mod in a bit as I'm not in agreement with most of the patterning.

Did anyone even bother checking hitsounds? lmao

Evening wrote:

The ranking criteria explicitly said that all hitsounds must be audible and QATs are already quite pushing it already by letting a lot of maps with relatively inaudible hitsounds to go through so there's that.

The reasoning of letting players hear the music is reasonable, I myself do not turn on hitsounds at points but the density of hitsounds here is NOT acceptable by any means, by letting through this we are pretty much allowing mappers to just throw in 1 hitsound for their entire 10 minute map to justify it and a low quality hitsounded chart has been proven to be unrankable (see: t/339876/start=75)

While I do get raising the hitsound too high will interfere with the music itself:

- Players who don't like to use hitsounds will just have their Effects to 0% anyways
- Players who do like hitsounds, will appreciate actually having hitsounds audible

This works both ways, it's not about it being rankable, it's about it being well done, mappers have kept their standards high by ranking maps that have more complex hitsounds than this and it benefits both parties it is not too advisable to stoop this low in standards for hitsounding.

It is a mandatory thing, might as well do it well!

Evening wrote:

“--” separates the relevant comments so it doesn’t get confusing which is linked to which

You should at least have these hitsounds in your possession to differentiate the sounds, and these are quite basic so it’s not something too complicated to apply either:

Snare and/or Clap (for the snares in the song and the distorted kicks)
Kick (well, for the kicks)
Finish (this could be useful for the starts and ends of sections)

If I were to enforce the hitsound criteria a bit more here, the hats are by no means audible over the music itself so you will need to have a louder base hitsound

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00:32:089 (32089|3,32616|2) - Think these 2 notes can be on the same column due to drum snare pitch relevancy
00:33:054 (33054|2,33142|3) - While this can be {2}{3}

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00:33:405 (33405|1,33581|3) - These can be hammered on 2 for pitch relevancy (you will need to shift some notes of course, you can probably shift to {13}{13} such that you can put 00:34:019 (34019|2) - on 4 for pitch relevancy and 00:34:370 (34370|3) - on 3)

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00:49:107 (49107|3) - This is lower in pitch compared to the previous snares, shift this to 3 for PR

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00:49:546 (49546|3,49633|2,49721|3) - Think you can omit the 2nd note here and shift everything to column 3 so as to differentiate from other column 4 snare notes. Suggesting to omit the 2nd note here as it is really soft and in a way inaudible to those not focusing to the music

Adding onto why you should omit the 2nd note here:

There are quite a bit of instances where similar sounds are omitted like in between these notes and ¼ before the first note there 00:47:440 (47440|2,47616|2) -
Same goes to 00:48:844 (48844|1,49019|1) -

00:52:089 (52089|1,52265|1) - Same thing goes to this, you might want to find a consensus where you have a consistent way of layering here because as of now it feels slightly random

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00:54:721 (54721|1,54721|0) - While I do get the drum kick being 2 notes, not too sure why is the synthesizer kick is 2, the sound is really vague and I think having 1 note being on the left side of the chart is good enough to kind of represent its existence

00:57:002 (57002|3) - With reference to this, I think the layering scheme needs to be relooked

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00:55:598 (55598|1) - While I do see why you would put a ⅙ rhythm here, I believe that the rhythm still revolves around the usage of ¼ swings:

Examples where sounds start later than notes that are not in the ⅙ section:

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00:52:353 (52353|2) -
00:42:353 (42353|2) -

and so on, the reason I urge for you to change to ¼s is because you have already established a ¼ rhythm approximate at the intro (approximation at this level is not wrong!) and ¼ rhythm approximation at the point where you started mapping ⅙ is not wrong too but it’s more ideal as you have established this ¼ rhythm and you might want to keep it consistent throughout the prologue of the song

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01:04:721 (64721|3,65072|2,65247|2,65335|2) - These are the same sounds, why not hammer them for PR?

01:18:581 (78581|1) - Suggesting to remove this note in particular, the music felt that it suggests a ½ beat drop here

01:19:282 (79282|0,79282|1,79458|1,79458|0) - Not too sure why these hammer, they don’t suggest the same sound

01:21:388 (81388|0,81388|2) - Why not follow the layering you’ve established here for the snares and put this on 34? (You can shift 01:21:300 (81300|3) - to column 1 or 2 for a minijack, I assumed a minijack is fine as you’ve already used it a lot of times)

01:23:931 (83931|3,83931|2,84195|3,84195|2) - Why not keep this a 14 chord for the snare itself

01:44:195 (104195|1,104195|0,104282|1,104282|0,104370|1,104370|0,104546|0,104546|1,104721|0,104721|1) - It’s quite bothering that these snares doesn’t change column count, pretty sure you can do something like 13 13 24 34 34 or 13 23 24 34 34 or something similar

Not too sure why the layering scheme for 01:29:282 (89282|1) - and 01:51:739 (111739|1) - are different, I prefer the latter as it provides a larger variety of patterns however

01:55:423 (115423|1,115598|1,115774|0,115949|3) - The snares are the most prominent sound here you might want to emphasize them through making them the same column and or the same note count

01:58:142 (118142|0,118230|0,118230|1) - This is not too comfortable of a pattern, you might want to consider just 12 12 -ing it considering the difficulty of your other patterns

02:24:019 (144019|2) - I’m honestly not sure what is your minijack layering scheme here:

Seems like the minijacks here 02:24:896 (144896|2,144896|3,144984|3,144984|2) - are aiming at the distorded kicks here
02:26:651 (146651|0,146651|1,146739|0,146739|1) - This proves it to be true somewhat
I’m not too sure what happened but it felt like everything fell apart after this point as you didn’t really map the minijacks towards the kicks anymore
02:30:774 (150774|0,150774|1,150861|0,150861|1) - Well yea i get this part because it has 2 kicks on ¼ and some other minijacks
But why is there a minijack here 02:35:423 (155423|1,155510|1) -, is it for the distorted kicks? Why would there be a minijack for a distorted kick here and not any where else though?

Seems to be accidental but 02:28:054 (148054|3,148230|3,148405|3,148581|3,148756|3,148931|3,149107|3,149282|3,149458|3,149633|3,149809|3,149984|3,150160|3,150335|3) - This forms quite a long jack and it’s rather noticeable while playing (at least for me), you might want to just break the chain somehow as it doesn’t seem to be emphasizing anything in particular

02:26:388 (146388|1) - Ghost note
02:28:493 (148493|0) - Ghost note
02:31:826 (151826|1) - Ghost note
02:39:195 (159195|2) - Ghost note
02:39:546 (159546|0) - Ghost note
02:40:949 (160949|3) - Ghost note
02:44:458 (164458|3) - Ghost note

And it goes on

02:29:809 (149809|3,149896|0,150160|3) - Not sure why you didn’t go for a different layering scheme for these notes, the layering here just seems inconsistent

02:29:721 (149721|0,149721|1) - I don’t see why this is explicitly emphasized with a 2 note chord

02:32:177 (152177|2,152265|0) - While these ghost notes can be justified, I don’t see why you would need these as the whole chart feels very technical and a leaving the last note there on ¼ to create a ¼ swing beat would represent the music much better

02:34:546 (154546|1,154546|2,154633|3,154633|0,154721|2,154721|1,154809|3,154809|0,154896|2,154896|1) - Proposing that you somehow distinguish the snares and the hats here instead of blending them all into 1 single jumptrill pattern, you can most likely drop 1 of these notes 02:34:633 (154633|3,154633|0) - and make the pattern after it a 34 12 34 or 12 34 12

02:37:703 (157703|3) - No idea why you would use just 1 note to represent a snare

02:39:721 (159721|2) - Why is this 1 note only when you used 2 notes for 02:40:247 (160247|3,160247|2) - the same sound

02:40:686 (160686|0,160686|3,160774|2,160861|1,160861|0) - Not too sure why you would go for a 2 - 1 - 2 note count when it should be (according to the rest of the chart) 1 - 2 - 2

02:41:124 (161124|1,161475|2) - Why are these not 2 note chords

02:42:002 (162002|0,162002|1,162089|1,162089|0) - Would suggest to have it something like a 2 - 1 - 2 note count with a minijack as the snare in the middle is quite vague, you can try something like 14 4 23 or 13 3 12 etc.

02:44:195 (164195|0,164195|1,164282|2,164282|3,164370|1,164370|0,164458|3,164546|0,164546|1,164633|3,164721|1,164809|3,164896|1) - The distorted kicks are the main rhythm here and it just doesn’t really bring justice to the complexity of this rhythm in the music if the whole pattern revolved around 1 single trill

02:47:879 (167879|0,167967|0,168317|0,168405|0) - Wait what why are these minijacks

02:48:581 (168581|3,168581|0,168756|0,168756|3) - You might want to pattern them differently as they are distinctively different sounds

02:50:774 (170774|1) - Well, to emphasize the ¼ swing better I believe this can be 12 and you can probably change the 3 note chord after it to 34

02:51:124 (171124|0,171300|0) - Well, according to quite literally everything, this should be a 2 note chord and I feel that it emphasizes the ¼ swing better too anyways

02:55:686 (175686|2,175686|3,175774|3,175774|2,175861|1,175861|0,175949|3,175949|0,176037|2,176124|2) - I’m not too sure about this sudden minijack burst, you can probably tone it down

02:56:914 (176914|0,177002|1,177002|0) - Why does this have minijacks
02:58:054 (178054|3) - Well, this should be a 2 note chord right

03:05:423 (185423|3,185423|0,185510|1,185510|2,185598|0,185598|3) - Think this can be 14 2 34 just for variation for the last snare

03:05:861 (185861|3,185949|3) - Not too sure about the usage of a minijack here, this is quite a faint instrument

03:07:265 (187265|2) - Shouldn’t this be 2 notes for the snare

03:08:142 (188142|1,188142|0,188230|1,188230|0) - Why is this a 2 note minijack when the instruments are different

03:08:581 (188581|0) - Well, I do get you don’t focus on the distorted kick here (which felt really weird to me but ok) but this distorted kick marks the end of the sequence and it feels really underwhelming to not have it at least 2 notes

03:11:212 (191212|2,191212|3) - Think you can follow your previous sequence by having the snares layered to 1 note only, suggesting this to be column 3 due to PR

03:12:616 (192616|2) - Similarly, keep the snares to 1 note (I do get there’s a noise layer here but it isn’t significant to the point of mapping it)

03:14:282 (194282|3) - Suggest to put this on column 3 just to differentiate it from the column 4 louder and higher pitched snare

03:18:230 (198230|1) - Felt that this could be on column 1 as this snare sequence is somewhat mimicking a build up in speed and I personally feel that it being on column 1 represents this better

03:24:458 - Felt that you missed a crucial beat here as it is also a build up

03:30:861 (210861|3,210861|2,210905|0,210905|1,210949|3,210949|2,210993|0,210993|1,211037|3) - This feels slightly over the top in jumptrilling, though not wrong I’m suggesting to make it 3 2 3 2 34

03:32:879 (212879|1,213054|2,213405|2,213581|1) - Think you can keep these in the same column just to emphasize the ¼ swing

03:35:510 (215510|0,215686|3) - Similarly

03:35:774 (215774|0,215817|1,215861|2,215905|3,215949|0,216124|1,216300|2,216475|3,216563|2,216651|1,216826|0,217002|0) - Quite dislike the reverse PR but ehhh, think you can use 2 1 4 3 2 1 2 2 3 4 4 4

03:38:493 (218493|2,218668|1) - Hammer them for the ¼ swing

03:41:914 (221914|0,222265|0,222440|0,222528|0,222616|2,222616|3) - Would highly encourage Ctrl+H ing this for PR

03:48:756 (228756|3,228844|2,228931|1,228931|0,229107|3) - Think the snare here can be emphasized by having this pattern: 4 2 34 2, this is just to isolate the snare so it doesn’t blend in into the hats here

03:53:844 (233844|3) - I think I’m just going to leave the 2nd kiai to you, I honestly think you should focus on layering the distorted kicks more than anything else, it’s the most prominent sound and it really makes me feel that you can’t make up your mind on the layering scheme here, it feels like a mess:

The minijacks doesn’t really make much sense to me
The 3 note chords don’t really make much sense to me as your layering doesn’t really justify it, something like this 04:29:633 (269633|3,269633|0,269633|2,269809|1,269809|2,269809|3,269984|0,269984|3,269984|1,270160|2,270160|1,270160|0,270247|3,270335|2,270335|1,270335|0) - is highly puzzling

Yea not too motivated to mod the rest of it anymore, it’s pretty much repeating the same thing

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