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Wish I Was - Stop This

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Osu Mapman
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Joined August 2012
Osu Mapman
[Normal]
00:00:491 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - these transitions between sliders could be done more "straight" current ones looks sloppy
00:04:425 (1) - what bout replacing it by two 1/1 circles? Actually slider works fine too, but as circles you can give more emphasise to piano by making both beats clickable
00:08:359 (1,2,3) - there is two options, make it straight or somewhat more curve-ish 1 2
00:10:327 (1) - same sugesstion about circles
00:21:146 (3) - i'd say end of this slider should be clickable for giving more impact to piano in the game, try to replace it by slider and circle or such
idk
00:23:113 (3) - pretty much the same
there is actually more, and you probably made them on purporse but personally i didn't found it working properly because these unclickable ends just don't give enough emphasise on piano, also it's always weird when playing 1/1 gaps when first beat doesn't gives you enough impact
00:49:425 (4) - check spacing
00:50:654 (3) - would be really nice to make beats clickable, it'll make strong samples which musich had more emphasised

[Lasse's Hard]
00:00:491 (1,2,1,2) - considering following patterns this one had inexplicably high spacing, i believe that you should make it consistent
00:14:753 (1) - not quite sure about this one, but it overlaps with hp bar for me, hovewer, it seems like resolutions problem
00:16:720 (2,3,4) - and same pasted pattern, well, mind making this looking more like triangle? Idk, it seemd intended to be as it is, but personally i found this looking pretty messy
00:28:031 (5) - i can understand purposes of space it further from 00:27:786 (4) - and appreciate it, but the thing bothers me is there is many same points what should be emphasised like this, but without reason (or i simply don't understand it) you skip them, so this one looks a bit out of place. There is some of them: 00:21:638 (3) - 00:23:605 (4) - 00:29:506 (4) - and such
00:31:966 (1) - immo you should move it even further from 00:31:474 (3) - musicial change asks for more measurable spacing changes
00:39:835 (1) - same

[Tragic Love]
well, to be honest only one thing what bothers me about this diff is that you have mapped it at the same spacing what it looks strange, because calm part in the beginning feels somewhat same to kiai one, dunno if you'll change it, but i highly recommend you to reconsider the very first part in terms of spacings, just simply nerf it, that will make this diff more suitable to the song (at least in my opinion)
good luck!
Lasse
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3,648 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse

EvilElvis wrote:

[Lasse's Hard]
00:00:491 (1,2,1,2) - considering following patterns this one had inexplicably high spacing, i believe that you should make it consistent lowered
00:14:753 (1) - not quite sure about this one, but it overlaps with hp bar for me, hovewer, it seems like resolutions problem technically fine, but won't hurt to move the whole pattern down a bit so people stop complaining
00:16:720 (2,3,4) - and same pasted pattern, well, mind making this looking more like triangle? Idk, it seemd intended to be as it is, but personally i found this looking pretty messy I'll keep it. I like how it looks and there are so many more perfect traingles already 00:15:244 (2,3,4) -, would look to repetitive imo, also really like the angle it puts on the movement to the strong piano on 00:17:212 (4) -
00:28:031 (5) - i can understand purposes of space it further from 00:27:786 (4) - and appreciate it, but the thing bothers me is there is many same points what should be emphasised like this, but without reason (or i simply don't understand it) you skip them, so this one looks a bit out of place. There is some of them: 00:21:638 (3) - 00:23:605 (4) - 00:29:506 (4) - and such true, I lowered spacing for the first since increasing it for all others would make the spread shitty and all
00:31:966 (1) - immo you should move it even further from 00:31:474 (3) - musicial change asks for more measurable spacing changes true here
00:39:835 (1) - same already changes from 1.4x to 2.0x, don't think more is needed
thanks
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Title:Stop This
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Artist:Wish I Was
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Creator:Stjpa
Version:Lasse's Hard
Source:
Tags:wishiwas tydi housetydi piano instrumental electronic lasse phaz
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Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

EvilElvis wrote:

[Normal]
00:00:491 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - these transitions between sliders could be done more "straight" current ones looks sloppy Ye.
00:04:425 (1) - what bout replacing it by two 1/1 circles? Actually slider works fine too, but as circles you can give more emphasise to piano by making both beats clickable For some reason I like it more as a slider.
00:08:359 (1,2,3) - there is two options, make it straight or somewhat more curve-ish 1 2 Curvish seems cool.
00:10:327 (1) - same sugesstion about circles 1/2 slider + circle.
00:21:146 (3) - i'd say end of this slider should be clickable for giving more impact to piano in the game, try to replace it by slider and circle or such
idk
00:23:113 (3) - pretty much the same [
there is actually more, and you probably made them on purporse but personally i didn't found it working properly because these unclickable ends just don't give enough emphasise on piano, also it's always weird when playing 1/1 gaps when first beat doesn't gives you enough impact Okay. Also changed two more of them. Needed to completely re-place everything afterwards.
00:49:425 (4) - check spacing ^
00:50:654 (3) - would be really nice to make beats clickable, it'll make strong samples which musich had more emphasised But why especially there? I like the kiai how it is right now, idk.

[Tragic Love]
well, to be honest only one thing what bothers me about this diff is that you have mapped it at the same spacing what it looks strange, because calm part in the beginning feels somewhat same to kiai one, dunno if you'll change it, but i highly recommend you to reconsider the very first part in terms of spacings, just simply nerf it, that will make this diff more suitable to the song (at least in my opinion) I think I had this in mind once but forgot it again. Gonna update it now without applying this, will work on it the next days.
good luck!
Tyvm for your mod!
Zectro
371 posts
Joined April 2013
Zectro
Hey guys, how are you?

[General]
Noticed some thingies while looking at automod:
  1. Unused hitsounds:
    drum-hitclap15.wav
    soft-hitclap14.wav
    soft-slidertick14.wav
  2. The following hitsounds are shorter than 100ms:
    soft-hitclap16.wav (78ms)

[Normal]
  1. 00:00:491 (1) - x55y124 so it points perfectly at 00:00:982 (2) - ; it just looks a bit better
  2. 00:24:097 (1) - should be at x139y68 for the same thing as above, but then rip spacing. I still think it looks way better like that though
  3. 00:33:441 (4,1) - Improve this blanket really quick
  4. The rest of the things are too small to be mentioned.
[Lasse's Hard]
  1. Sorry I cant help but rechecking all those custom stacks; 00:21:638 (3) - to x208y314 <> 00:33:195 (5) - to x372y206
  2. 00:32:950 (4,1) - This overlap catches the eye since the AR. Looks kinda bad, I'd consider changing this part up
[Tragic Love]
  1. First of all, I highly agree with Elvis on this diff. Also this is the diff that needs the most work imo.
  2. Second of all, check your custom stacks like 00:23:359 (4,6) - , they are not 100% consistent, this is a little thing to work on before moving this mapset forward aswell.
  3. 00:25:818 (3,1) - I don't see any kind of consistency in this spacing here, you only use it once on a place you'd normally use the typical 00:25:572 (2,4) - spacing. Am I missing something here?
  4. Also; things like 00:02:704 (3,1) - look kinda bad. Like really bad, just thought I'd let you know since although it's not necessary to change for this to be moved forward, it looks really bad. I mean spacing and not blanketing things like 00:03:688 (3,1) - 00:04:671 (3,1) -
  5. 00:06:884 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - How about some nice trangles instead of randomly placed notes, since decreasing and increasing the spacing like that does not look good, it does not even represent how high the tones are correctly if you are trying to do that
    I mean the above for a lot of things, for example 00:19:425 (2,3,4) - .
  6. Also, another nazi thing, slider shapes like 00:08:359 (1,4) - not being the same (so they are curved in a different way(i dont mean the direction ofc)) also look really bad, specially since the spacing is not fully clear and consistent.
  7. Please try working a tiny bit more on the point that Elvis said, and afterwards please work on the visual elements of this diff (recheck if the custom stacks are perfect, look if you can make some slider shapes more consistent here and there, and consider making certain single note patterns have more consistent spacing and maybe even make some monstratas(dorito shaped patterns aka perfect triangles) here and there instead of the more 'randomly-spaced-notes-kinda-making-a-triangle' thing that you have going on atm.).
Good luck, after the above issues are adressed, this map will be ready in my eyes!

Spread is alright, like, obviously there is a pretty big diff gap between lasse and tragic love but I think you can get away with it.
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

Zectro wrote:

[Normal]
  1. 00:00:491 (1) - x55y124 so it points perfectly at 00:00:982 (2) - ; it just looks a bit better Ye.
  2. 00:24:097 (1) - should be at x139y68 for the same thing as above, but then rip spacing. I still think it looks way better like that though Changed angle here.
  3. 00:33:441 (4,1) - Improve this blanket really quick Aye.
  4. The rest of the things are too small to be mentioned.
[Tragic Love]
  1. First of all, I highly agree with Elvis on this diff. Also this is the diff that needs the most work imo. You are dumb. :^)
  2. Second of all, check your custom stacks like 00:23:359 (4,6) - , they are not 100% consistent, this is a little thing to work on before moving this mapset forward aswell. I use a strict system of DS which is why they might be inconsistent, even though it doesn't happen often and almost not noticable, if you ask me.
  3. 00:25:818 (3,1) - I don't see any kind of consistency in this spacing here, you only use it once on a place you'd normally use the typical 00:25:572 (2,4) - spacing. Am I missing something here? Normal 1.7x / 2.1x spacing as in the whole part actually.
  4. Also; things like 00:02:704 (3,1) - look kinda bad. Like really bad, just thought I'd let you know since although it's not necessary to change for this to be moved forward, it looks really bad. I mean spacing and not blanketing things like 00:03:688 (3,1) - 00:04:671 (3,1) - Reworked that part.
  5. 00:06:884 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - How about some nice trangles instead of randomly placed notes, since decreasing and increasing the spacing like that does not look good, it does not even represent how high the tones are correctly if you are trying to do that Changed it anyway, I think.
    I mean the above for a lot of things, for example 00:19:425 (2,3,4) - . ^
  6. Also, another nazi thing, slider shapes like 00:08:359 (1,4) - not being the same (so they are curved in a different way(i dont mean the direction ofc)) also look really bad, specially since the spacing is not fully clear and consistent. Changed some.
  7. Please try working a tiny bit more on the point that Elvis said, and afterwards please work on the visual elements of this diff (recheck if the custom stacks are perfect, look if you can make some slider shapes more consistent here and there, and consider making certain single note patterns have more consistent spacing and maybe even make some monstratas(dorito shaped patterns aka perfect triangles) here and there instead of the more 'randomly-spaced-notes-kinda-making-a-triangle' thing that you have going on atm.).
Good luck, after the above issues are adressed, this map will be ready in my eyes!

Spread is alright, like, obviously there is a pretty big diff gap between lasse and tragic love but I think you can get away with it. Everything works nowadays.
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,648 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
moved those 2 pattern by literally 3 pixels in total and repositioned 1 to not overlap 4 and make a nice blanket
thanks zectro

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FCL
1,497 posts
Joined July 2014
FCL
  • [Tragic love]
  1. 00:07:622 (4) - I thinks you should put nc here since you used nc before at same moments
  2. 00:33:687 (2,1) - 00:33:687 (2,1) - flow here is really weird and can be difficult for playing, I recommend to revise him. For example: 00:35:655 (2,1) - this flow looks pretty nice
  3. 00:50:654 (3) - ctrl+g maybe? flow here is really hard, this option will better. If u accept it use ctrl+g here 00:51:146 (4) - too
  4. 00:54:343 (4) - stack with end of 00:53:113 (5) - . Idk looks more aesthetic

  • [Lasse]
  1. 00:06:884 (1,2) - why such the distance? low spacing don't makes some sense here. Furthermore, you don't use before and after distance like this

  • [Normal]
  1. 00:10:327 (1) - blanket maybe?
  2. 00:31:966 (1) - same form like these sliders 00:32:458 (2,3,4) - ? It's will have more sense
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

FCL wrote:

  • [Tragic love]
  1. 00:07:622 (4) - I thinks you should put nc here since you used nc before at same moments Oops.
  2. 00:33:687 (2,1) - 00:33:687 (2,1) - flow here is really weird and can be difficult for playing, I recommend to revise him. For example: 00:35:655 (2,1) - this flow looks pretty nice Flow-wise both is the same, just from a different angle lol. Imo it's completely fine and I wanna keep it.
  3. 00:50:654 (3) - ctrl+g maybe? flow here is really hard, this option will better. If u accept it use ctrl+g here 00:51:146 (4) - too Nice.
  4. 00:54:343 (4) - stack with end of 00:53:113 (5) - . Idk looks more aesthetic I'm dumb.


  • [Normal]
  1. 00:10:327 (1) - blanket maybe? Okay.
  2. 00:31:966 (1) - same form like these sliders 00:32:458 (2,3,4) - ? It's will have more sense It has the same shape lol.
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,648 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
It's 1x and not ~1.3x like most, but it fits fine here with how the pitch of the piano goes and it puts more emphasis on 00:07:376 (3) -
also I really like how it looks
=> will keep it for now
-Sunni-
9 posts
Joined August 2015
-Sunni-
Overall: Music sound very quiet. Raise volume maybe?

Looks acceptable. I see a lot has already been modded. I would change
00:39:835 (1) - to maybe something like this : http://i.epvpimg.com/hbKAe.jpg
Because it is strange when there are the "harder" jumps before and then it gets so easy when the song gets more "intense".

Good Luck
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

-Sunni- wrote:

Overall: Music sound very quiet. Raise volume maybe? It's completely fine.

Looks acceptable. I see a lot has already been modded. I would change
00:39:835 (1) - to maybe something like this : http://i.epvpimg.com/hbKAe.jpg
Because it is strange when there are the "harder" jumps before and then it gets so easy when the song gets more "intense". Kiai actually has higher spacing than pre-Kiai. Also, pre-Kiai is imo a bit more intense and due the music I can't really map it different.

Good Luck
Sorry that I can't give a kudosu for that because it wasn't helpful. :c
Shad0w1and
1,586 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and
General
Timing Signature should be 3/4

[Love]
00:01:228 (1) - no nc plz
I think you should revise your NC, about every 5 notes give one NC is enough, or just give NC on downbeat
00:45:736 (1,2,3) - does not flow well, (3) C+g might be better or rearrange your notes
tbh, I think the style need some change to make it feel better, like use more straight sliders. Every 3 curved slider with one or two straight ones will feel much better.

[Hard]
00:06:884 (1,2,3,4) - look at the spacing between them, and look at your spacing of previous pattern 00:03:441 (2,3,1,2,3) -
00:28:523 (1,2,3,4) - make this pattern better, at least make 00:29:015 (2) - have a constant DS
00:42:786 (4,5) - great idea, but I think it works better on 1/1 sliders, current is fine though.
00:44:753 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - yes may be nazi, but look at the spacing between all these objects, this will differentiate a good map and a bad map. remember to uncheck hit animation and adjust them all like this
SPOILER

[Nor]
00:02:950 - this sound need a actual hit obj imo
00:04:917 - ^ and downbeat
other fine
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

Shad0w1and wrote:

General
Timing Signature should be 3/4 Multiple people said that 4/4 is fine here.

[Love]
00:01:228 (1) - no nc plz It has a strong sound, so I have a reason to put NC there.
I think you should revise your NC, about every 5 notes give one NC is enough, or just give NC on downbeat
00:45:736 (1,2,3) - does not flow well, (3) C+g might be better or rearrange your notes Slightly changed it.
tbh, I think the style need some change to make it feel better, like use more straight sliders. Every 3 curved slider with one or two straight ones will feel much better. Usually I map with a lot of straight sliders but it didn't feel right here.


[Nor]
00:02:950 - this sound need a actual hit obj imo Imo it doesn't. :(
00:04:917 - ^ and downbeat ^
other fine
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,648 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse

Shad0w1and wrote:

[Hard]
00:06:884 (1,2,3,4) - look at the spacing between them, and look at your spacing of previous pattern 00:03:441 (2,3,1,2,3) - piano is different for both and so is the spacing
00:28:523 (1,2,3,4) - make this pattern better, at least make 00:29:015 (2) - have a constant DS fixed
00:42:786 (4,5) - great idea, but I think it works better on 1/1 sliders, current is fine though.
00:44:753 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - yes may be nazi, but look at the spacing between all these objects, this will differentiate a good map and a bad map. remember to uncheck hit animation and adjust them all like this
SPOILER
00:45:245 (5,1) - is a small jump and then everything is 1.3x, okay more like 1.29x to 1.31x. changed it a little bit even though nobody would see that during gameplay anyways
thanks for modding!
SPOILER
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 39835
Countdown: 0
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StackLeniency: 0.7
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Title:Stop This
TitleUnicode:Stop This
Artist:Wish I Was
ArtistUnicode:Wish I Was
Creator:Stjpa
Version:Lasse's Hard
Source:
Tags:wishiwas tydi housetydi piano instrumental electronic lasse phaz
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for the time signature, at least starting from 00:31:966 - to end it's definitely 4/4
but for some parts like 00:24:097 (1) - to 00:29:999 - 3/4 seems to align better with the piano, even though 3/4 doesn't seem to work for most of the piano part
aigoh
398 posts
Joined February 2014
aigoh
Hi, for M4M
[ Lasse's Hard]

  • Hitsound volume was low in the beginning imo. I’ll give suggestions
  1. 00:00:491 – 12% volume doesn’t give much feedback. Try 15% from here on?
  2. 00:08:359 – 25% from here
  3. 00:16:228 – 30% from here to 00:43:277 (5) -
  4. 00:27:540 (3,4) – ctrl + G since it’s better flow AND note is more emphasized at 00:28:031 – bpm is pretty slow anyways so it won’t hurt with this much jump
  5. 00:53:605 (1) – make it into a shorter slider with triplet? The drum triplet is pretty pronounced here, so I wouldn’t ignore it. See in 00:40:695 - 00:44:630 - 00:52:130 (2,3,4) -, triplet is less emphasized but you still mapped it. But it doesn’t make sense to not add a triplet at a climax with a bigger sound.


[Normal]

  • Refer to the volume mod on Lasse’s hard :3
  1. 00:00:491 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Try this rhythm http://puu.sh/pJyfq.jpg ? There are lots of tappings involved for a beginning of the song. For a low bpm and calm song like this, I suggest undermapping (aka ignore a few beats)--the player first needs to warm up. Also 00:02:458 – this huge slider does not fit since there’s no significant sound to map.
  2. 00:44:753 (3) – I know this is an annoying mod…but blanket, it is visible XD rotate 3 degrees clockwise, and place back onto the same axis.
  3. 00:50:654 (3) – this slider looks too curved and out of place…copy and paste 00:48:687 (3) -
  4. 00:40:818 (3) - this looks too curved as well. Use 00:39:835 (1) -

Hope this helped and good luck!
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

aigoh wrote:

[Normal]

  • Refer to the volume mod on Lasse’s hard :3 The volumes we use rn is already too loud if you ask me, so no changes.
  1. 00:00:491 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Try this rhythm http://puu.sh/pJyfq.jpg ? There are lots of tappings involved for a beginning of the song. For a low bpm and calm song like this, I suggest undermapping (aka ignore a few beats)--the player first needs to warm up. Also 00:02:458 – this huge slider does not fit since there’s no significant sound to map. Considering that the first few beats are actually more intense than the ones afterwards...no changes. I'm aware that the downbeat doesn't have a strong beat to tap to, but yet I don't want to change it. Gonna think about it if someone else complains.
  2. 00:44:753 (3) – I know this is an annoying mod…but blanket, it is visible XD rotate 3 degrees clockwise, and place back onto the same axis. Or just move the slidertail a little \:D/
  3. 00:50:654 (3) – this slider looks too curved and out of place…copy and paste 00:48:687 (3) - Aye.
  4. 00:40:818 (3) - this looks too curved as well. Use 00:39:835 (1) - K den.

Hope this helped and good luck!
Gonna mod your map tonight, I guess.
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,648 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
I'll leave volume things to stjpa since I just copied them
00:27:540 (3,4) – I want equal spacing for the piano since it fits better imo, also 60° even spacing is fine for movement lol
00:53:605 (1) - don't really want a single random 1/6 repeat thing just before the end of the map, so I decided to skip the drum

no changes but thanks for having a look
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ

aigoh wrote:

Hi, for M4M
[ Lasse's Hard]

  • Hitsound volume was low in the beginning imo. I’ll give suggestions
try to catch me in-game to discuss hitsounds a bit if you want. ill look out for you too :3
Feb
1,029 posts
Joined June 2014
Feb
suggestion train
#pp maps #stüpfer

[gen]
  1. dunno why the hp values are so low for both diffs when there are basically no hard rhythms or anything like that.
  2. HART: 0,5+ more od? cuz ar is also +2 more than in normal and u know would make it the same and yea doesn't matter, but i love to be annoying.
[hart]

  1. 00:03:687 - 00:04:179 - those red ticks are really weak, but you have single notes there. It feels much better to play as sliders here.
  2. 00:09:097 - really strong sound but tail >:
  3. 00:17:212 (4) - wish you would stack those finishing notes on the next slider since this kind of stuff rocks :>>>
  4. 00:28:031 (5) - as strong as it is it deserves more spacing imo.
  5. 00:31:966 (1) - the sliders look rather random to me like they don't follow anything. If it were me i just spam circles from here on out, but ppl would cry so i'd just put a reverse on the downbeat everytime so it is a bit easier.
  6. 00:52:130 (2) - shouldn't the spacing be about the same distance as the other times? like 00:48:687 (3) - ? meaning 1.4x
[normal]

  1. 00:02:458 - this downbeat sounds so weird since this is not emphasized in the hitsounds at all for some raisons. Might be good idea to hitsound this seperatley to have at least some feedback here. 00:04:425 - this sound cool because there is feedback hn
  2. 00:07:868 (3,2) - they are really close to each other might as well make it visual the same spacing between 00:07:868 (3,1,2) - those 3 objects
  3. 00:22:130 (1,3) - doesn't look aesthetically that great since those shapes don't fit to each other and they show bot in different directions how about http://puu.sh/pRkdc/379a7b9c05.jpg this shape? looks good to me
rest is k to me

good luck
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,648 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse

Feb wrote:

suggestion train
#pp maps #stüpfer

[gen]
  1. dunno why the hp values are so low for both diffs when there are basically no hard rhythms or anything like that.
  2. HART: 0,5+ more od? cuz ar is also +2 more than in normal and u know would make it the same and yea doesn't matter, but i love to be annoying.
    od is 6 now, idc about hp that is up to stjpa
    settings are weird cause there was a higher diff than hard so I put settings to match that spread
[hart]

  1. 00:03:687 - 00:04:179 - those red ticks are really weak, but you have single notes there. It feels much better to play as sliders here. red like this replythey are k to map as circles and keep the rhythm a bit more varied
  2. 00:09:097 - really strong sound but tail >: changed rhythm to make this clickable
  3. 00:17:212 (4) - wish you would stack those finishing notes on the next slider since this kind of stuff rocks :>>> i dont think it does :c
  4. 00:28:031 (5) - as strong as it is it deserves more spacing imo. doesnt seem stronger than before to me o:
  5. 00:31:966 (1) - the sliders look rather random to me like they don't follow anything. If it were me i just spam circles from here on out, but ppl would cry so i'd just put a reverse on the downbeat everytime so it is a bit easier. they were there for the old spread and to not make it too diffculty.
  6. 00:52:130 (2) - shouldn't the spacing be about the same distance as the other times? like 00:48:687 (3) - ? meaning 1.4x i think there was a reason for that when I mapped this like half a year ago. fixed cause I don't know why it was liek this lol
stop winny upload
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Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa
no answer = fixed

Feb wrote:

suggestion train
#pp maps #stüpfer #fap #memes

[gen]
  1. dunno why the hp values are so low for both diffs when there are basically no hard rhythms or anything like that.
[normal]

  1. 00:02:458 - this downbeat sounds so weird since this is not emphasized in the hitsounds at all for some raisons. Might be good idea to hitsound this seperatley to have at least some feedback here. 00:04:425 - this sound cool because there is feedback hn Wanted to ask phaZ too if it would work, but yet I always forgot that lol. Good reminder fam.
  2. 00:07:868 (3,2) - they are really close to each other might as well make it visual the same spacing between 00:07:868 (3,1,2) - those 3 objects
  3. 00:22:130 (1,3) - doesn't look aesthetically that great since those shapes don't fit to each other and they show bot in different directions how about http://puu.sh/pRkdc/379a7b9c05.jpg this shape? looks good to me I really like that tho. :<
rest is k to me

good luck
phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ
[hard]
00:01:228 (3) - NC
00:03:441 (1) - NC
00:03:933 (3) - remove Nc
ab 00:08:359 - macht dein NC'ing sinn. deshalb davor genau so pls

no kd
Iceskulls
1,612 posts
Joined February 2012
Iceskulls
[general]
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    soft-sliderslide12.wav
    soft-sliderslide13.wav
    soft-sliderslide16.wav

  2. Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
    drum-hitclap15.wav 78.07ms
    soft-hitclap16.wav 78.07ms
    Ranking Criteria - Audio
    Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards
[normal]
  1. 00:01:228 (3) - you can move this up to make flow go up from 00:00:982 (2) - instead which i think would emphasis the change in piano sound here really well
  2. 00:29:507 (4,1) - a little inconsistent in spacing there that you can fix easily
  3. 00:53:605 (5) - nc ? i see you nc every downbeat here and now it looks pretty weird that you don't nc this downbeat lol
[lasse]
  1. 00:06:884 (1,2) - you can just stick with the usual spacing here i don't see any reason to lower the spacing here o.o
  2. 00:09:097 (2,3) - this would be better for jumps instead of 00:08:359 (1,2) - since the sound on (3) sound more dominant than (2) so (3) would fit better for a jumps
  3. 00:32:458 (2,3) - similiar to 00:06:884 (1,2) - you can just make spacing like 00:33:195 (5,6) - instead that would looks more cool
not much to say here :)
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,648 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
@phaz:
00:01:228 - ist doch schon nc o:
und die anderen beiden passen mit dem patterning und der musik besser imo.

CelsiusLK wrote:

[lasse]
  1. 00:06:884 (1,2) - you can just stick with the usual spacing here i don't see any reason to lower the spacing here o.o made it consistent and 00:07:622 (4) - clickable
  2. 00:09:097 (2,3) - this would be better for jumps instead of 00:08:359 (1,2) - since the sound on (3) sound more dominant than (2) so (3) would fit better for a jumps
  3. 00:32:458 (2,3) - similiar to 00:06:884 (1,2) - you can just make spacing like 00:33:195 (5,6) - instead that would looks more cool
changed spacing for both
thanks!

also made 00:53:605 (1,2) - look better and added a jump on 2

;c
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phaZ
739 posts
Joined October 2011
phaZ

CelsiusLK wrote:

[general]
  1. Unused hitsounds:
    soft-hitclap14.wav
    soft-sliderslide12.wav
    soft-sliderslide13.wav
    soft-sliderslide16.wav

  2. Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
    drum-hitclap15.wav 78.07ms
    soft-hitclap16.wav 78.07ms
    Ranking Criteria - Audio
    Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards
something must be wrong with the assistant. i had the same issue on another map p/5283745.
soft-sliderslide12.wav
soft-sliderslide13.wav
soft-sliderslide16.wav are is obviously used.

soft-hitclap14.wav can be deleted.

drum-hitclap15.wav
soft-hitclap16.wav
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

CelsiusLK wrote:

[general]
  1. Unused hitsounds:
    soft-hitclap14.wav
    soft-sliderslide12.wav
    soft-sliderslide13.wav
    soft-sliderslide16.wav     I really wonder why Modding Assistant shows them as unused when S:C12 etc are there with sliders being used. Only the hitclap is not being used, I tested it myself.

    [normal]
    1. 00:01:228 (3) - you can move this up to make flow go up from 00:00:982 (2) - instead which i think would emphasis the change in piano sound here really well I guess I did what you meant. In additional I curved the sliders a bit.
    2. 00:29:507 (4,1) - a little inconsistent in spacing there that you can fix easily Ok.
    3. 00:53:605 (5) - nc ? i see you nc every downbeat here and now it looks pretty weird that you don't nc this downbeat lol Oops.
Squichu
1,013 posts
Joined November 2012
Squichu
Since all hitsounds are audible now, here's your bubble! >w<
Ascendance
Elite Mapper
4,251 posts
Joined July 2013
Ascendance
tragic love extra (placeholder)
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa
Metadata proof in case someone wants it. I asked him because he has a different name on soundcloud.

And before someone mentions that Modding Assistant shows unused hitsounds; they are used. That's just a bug that occurs when multiple samplesets are used on a single slider.

Edit: Thanks to all modders and especially Squichu and Ascendance!
Last edited by Stjpa , edited 1 time in total.
Ascendance
Elite Mapper
4,251 posts
Joined July 2013
Ascendance
cuck
Sonnyc
7,776 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
~Normal~
  1. This difficulty is just full of 1/2 rhythms, and such speed doesn't feels something beginner-friendly. You should be making your mapset enjoyable for all level of players, and just having this difficulty under 2.00 stars doesn't assure that.
  1. 00:01:966 (5,1) - Minor spacing issue that could be fixed.
~Lasse's Tragic Love~
  1. What's with the difficulty name? Do you have any explanation about how that is related to the song?
  2. The difference between combo color 5 and 6 is pretty small. Making the colors slightly different while keeping it the same blue could work better to distribute different combo colors better.
  1. 00:09:097 (2,3) - What's with this small jump? Maybe you've kinda felt that 00:09:343 was intensed enough to get emphasized, but considering this kind of a spacing setting was only done for here, it didn't felt nice along the overall difficulty you made.
  2. 00:54:589 (1) - I've tried my best to hear the song, but I couldn't hear anything at least after 00:58:523. The current spinner length feels too long compared to the actual song. Same applies to normal.
Underforest
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Joined July 2015
Underforest
#blameascendance day 2
Lanturn
osu! Alumni
3,912 posts
Joined March 2012
Lanturn
oh rip., Sonnyc beat me to it. Anyways, here's some examples of notes that are even more dense than Lasse's diff. I fully agree that normal should be nerfed though.

00:08:113 - In Normal is mapped as a 1/2 slider while Hard is just a simple circle.
00:15:736 - ^
00:18:933 - Is more dense in Normal.
Ascendance
Elite Mapper
4,251 posts
Joined July 2013
Ascendance
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

no more standard sorry
Stjpa
901 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Stjpa

Sonnyc wrote:

~Normal~
  1. This difficulty is just full of 1/2 rhythms, and such speed doesn't feels something beginner-friendly. You should be making your mapset enjoyable for all level of players, and just having this difficulty under 2.00 stars doesn't assure that. It has a lot of 1/1 pattern with some pauses pre-kiai, I'm sure that is enough.
  1. 00:01:966 (5,1) - Minor spacing issue that could be fixed. Rip.
For the diffname: The song is kinda said which should be reason enough for the diffname. Because of the combo colours, for some reason they changed to the old ones I used with a different background, I have no idea what it happened. Spinner thing: If you turn osu louder you will hear that the spinner isn't too long, but I have no problem with shortening it because it needs a DQ anyway.
Also, there seems to be a hitsound wrongly placed, I have no idea what happened there. Completely embarassing for me to be honest.

About the things that Lanturn said: Is it really a problem that this little part is more dense in my diff? I mean, doesn't "different mapper, different interpration" thing apply here? Else I'm gonna change it.

Gonna get someone for a disqualify asap.
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-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-

Ascendance wrote:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

no more standard sorry
ayyy ascenbaka~~
Sonnyc
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Sonnyc

Stjpa wrote:

About the things that Lanturn said: Is it really a problem that this little part is more dense in my diff? I mean, doesn't "different mapper, different interpration" thing apply here? Else I'm gonna change it.
Maybe a "different mapper, different interpretation" could be a thing if this set was larger and had more diffs, but since this being a 2 diff spreaded mapset, I believe you could've made things more well-built cross difficulties. In my opinion of course.
Stjpa
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Topic Starter
Stjpa
Edit: Changed a lot :^)
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DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Disqualified upon mapper's request.
Lanturn
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Joined March 2012
Lanturn
Gave some general tips on the Normal diff to help reduce density and recommended a few spots where there could be some gaps.

SPOILER
19:56 Stjpa: hey, sorry for disturbing
19:57 Stjpa: are there any more spots with the density thing?
19:59 Lanturn: It's actually mostly just the gap density if that makes sense
19:59 Lanturn: all of your notes have 1/2 gaps, much like hard
19:59 Stjpa: the gaps should be consistent now
20:01 Lanturn: what I mean about gap density that I just said is that you should really have more 1/1 gaps say in normal
20:01 Lanturn: so the player isn't consistently playing like they are in hard
20:01 Lanturn: a held note is still 'playing'
20:02 Stjpa: i fixed all three u mentioned
20:02 Lanturn: 00:31:966 (1,2,3,4) - for example could lose the tail end of the (4) to allow more 1/1 spacing
20:02 Lanturn: even though there's a note at the (4)'s tail, you don't have to map it
20:03 Stjpa: would feel strange considering that i mapped every sound that is mappable
20:04 Lanturn: yup, but then it makes it too similar too hard and that's the issue
20:04 Stjpa: at least almost every sound lol
20:04 Lanturn: the idea is that you don't have to actually map every single piano sound, especially in the normal
20:04 Stjpa: hard uses more circles which is more intense, sure both is 1/2 spam but yet theres a difference
20:05 Lanturn: yeah, but that isn't what I'm trying to say
20:05 Lanturn: it's the fact that the players are still playing these notes on your diff, even if it's a slider end
20:07 Stjpa: alright, changed that part like u suggested
20:09 Lanturn: If you want to maintain consistency and such: 00:37:376 (4) - woudl work as well, or if you think it's better, 00:35:409 (4) - and 00:39:343 (4) - instead of the example I gave above
20:10 Stjpa: did that already yup
20:10 Lanturn: you can kind of apply that throughout the song as well
20:11 Lanturn: For note density. Stuff like 00:00:491 (1,2,3,4) -  at the very beginning would actually work well as 1/1 sliders (join 1,2 and 3,4) as an example because of how strong 00:00:491 (1,3) - on their heads are
20:12 Stjpa: true
20:12 Lanturn: to be honest, 00:00:982 (2,4) - here aren't even that powerful anyways, but they can still work as tail ends.
20:15 Stjpa: where were the really good mods before :(
20:17 Lanturn: That's the good thing about the qualification system XD
20:18 Lanturn: It's how I find maps these days since there are so many pending
20:18 Stjpa: i dont mind a dq, but its kinda sad that no one mentioned all these things before
20:20 Lanturn: it happens really
20:21 Lanturn: but hey, now you know for next time I guess
20:21 Stjpa: always gonna pm u before a qualify :^)
20:22 Lanturn: XD sure lol
20:22 Lanturn: Most people don't really care for lower diffs anyways
Doyak
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Doyak

Lanturn wrote:

Most people don't really care for lower diffs anyways
So p/5330531 this happens
riffy
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riffy
Yo, I decided to help out a litle and add my two cents.

First of all, I love the way you've mapped the Normal, but it is far from being acceptable as the easiest difficulty of the set, if you ask me. The song is asking for something easier, as it is a very peaceful peace of music. So, if you decide to map an Easy, I would be more than happy to help you out by modding it or giving some advice.

The next thing I absolutely disagree with is having Tragic Love as a part of the difficulty name. At this point it is excessively used in a lot of maps and can no longer be taken seriously, it's seen as a meme and nothing else. And using a difficulty name as a meme can ruin the perception of the map for a lot of players, they would expect some kind of a joke.
Lasse
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Lasse
I don't take responsibility for the diffname as I told stjpa I'm fine with howewer he calls it (was called hard back then) :d
but I also think it's fine lol

@sonnyc:
seems like stjpa already fixed the combocolor thing
removed that jump, cause it makes sense, but is too inconsistent with similar parts
it's been a long time since I mapped this, I'm pretty sure I had some reasoning for this jump but forgot, lol
thanks

@stjpa:
if you change the spinner on normal, also change it for me
only hitobjects as requested
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also 00:43:769 (1,2) - on normal should have a timing point with S:C22 cause right now it plays the default hitsounds instead of fitting piano
Stjpa
901 posts
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Topic Starter
Stjpa
I was hoping that I wouldn't need to map an Easy when nerfing that Normal diff quite a lot, but after getting more feedback to it I'll just map one as I can definitely understand you reasoning and it isn't such a huge deal to map one anyway.

I guess I'll think about another diffname for the Hard since some people get triggered (if that's the right word) by it.

@Bakari: I'll most likely message you after mapping it and getting some IRCs by other players. Thank you for offering your help, I really appreciate it.
riffy
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riffy
Did a couple minor tweaks to the Easy. I personally have nothing else to add, it's perfect in my eyes.
Lanturn
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Lanturn
Easy looks nice on my end as well.
Squichu
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Joined November 2012
Squichu
still don't have anything to complain about, take your bubble back! c:
Doyak
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Doyak
[Normal]
* 00:12:294 (1,2,3) - 00:45:736 (1,2,3) - 00:51:638 (1,2,3) - Why not make it more balanced?
* 00:18:195 (1) - Pull this down a bit so it doesn't overlap with the HP bar. (It's just about aesthetics)
* 00:26:802 (2) - I'd suggest to delete this note as it's barely audible. Even the hardest diff used a sliderend instead.

[Lasse's Despair]
* 00:14:753 (1) - Ignore this sentence if you don't care about touching HP bar.
* 00:26:802 - Would be great if you reduce the volume here, as it is barely barely audible.
Lasse
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Lasse
fixed both, thanks!

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Stjpa
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Stjpa

Doyak wrote:

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* 00:12:294 (1,2,3) - 00:45:736 (1,2,3) - 00:51:638 (1,2,3) - Why not make it more balanced? First one is on purpose like that, but I tweaked it a little bit (mirrored now). Fixed the other both I guess.
* 00:18:195 (1) - Pull this down a bit so it doesn't overlap with the HP bar. (It's just about aesthetics) Aye.
* 00:26:802 (2) - I'd suggest to delete this note as it's barely audible. Even the hardest diff used a sliderend instead. Sure.
Doyak
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We need to Stop This pp mapping
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Lyawi
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Stjpa
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tyvm guys.

and especially Doyak for helping out that quickly. :p
-M4x
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Hold up, wait a minute! Wie konnte ich das schon wieder nicht mitkriegen??? Glückwunsch Bro! :D
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