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IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu

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arien666
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arien666
[To all Fruit Market owners CtB makers]
Good job on this song :3
Good luck for your own maps XD

[crowzen2] Rate = 8.2 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 86+3/100+20(89/120) :3(Violet)
Good patterns, but some droplets are like ;_;

[KanaRin] Rate = 7.9 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 93+8/100+20(101/120) :3(Silver)
Some quick dash are hard imo ;_;

[pieguy1372] Rate = 8.4 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 78+1/100+20(79/120) :3(mid-Violet)
Enough easy and Enough hard :3
But... I do not think that Kiai on this song is not good idea imo ;_;
01:11:280 (2,3) - Reduce distance?
01:13:030 (1,2) - ^

[yokijudai] Rate = 7.9 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 59+0/100+20(59/120) :3(Red)
So so :3



Another judging but...
I'm not good at CtB ;_;
Zekira
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Zekira
I'm not good at CtB ;_;
This is a problem. There's obviously a CtB community in osu!, maybe it would be best if DJPop could just PM the well known CtB names to go ahead and rate the CtB diffs here...
arien666
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arien666

Zekira wrote:

I'm not good at CtB ;_;
This is a problem. There's obviously a CtB community in osu!, maybe it would be best if DJPop could just PM the well known CtB names to go ahead and rate the CtB diffs here...
Actually, CtB is also part of osu! but...

1. No CtB project like aquabluu's Taiko project ;_;
2. No icon about CtB diffs on WEB-search :3 [osu! = star, Taiko = circle, CtB = ???)

;_;
Should I start about CtB club :3...?
DJPop
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I've seen a CTB fansite but seems like it was gone...

The problem is that I don't know anyone who is very good at CTB - -"
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
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joynama

Darksoul wrote:

i choose siupain's ctb

the beginning of pieguy's is good ,but after beginning,there r too many hyperdash,i dont think is necessary

and yoki's ctb...hmm i dont think its a map,that;s all

and crow'ctb.i think it;s good but some part should hard but he did easyD: and some part should easy but have many jump D:

and star :3
agree :D
siupain's CTB is nice~
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pieguyn
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pieguyn
Updated. Thanks arien666 for the feedback. :)

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [pieguy's CTB].osu
DJPop
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Updated pieguy's CTB
Snowy Dream
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Snowy Dream
Nice~~！！！ :)
-maJu
210 posts
Joined January 2010
-maJu
My opinion is that kana's CtB is the best... :3
Hurude Rika
Hurude Rika
good luck!
MMzz
Elite Mapper
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MMzz
/me had an idea after reading all of lepido's and Zeki-don's post.

Solution = Just don't add a taiko since this song is obviously to retarded to map. (It's a good song just in mapping sense it's terrible)
matthewhln
408 posts
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matthewhln

MMzz wrote:

/me had an idea after reading all of lepido's and Zeki-don's post.

Solution = Just don't add a taiko since this song is obviously to retarded to map. (It's a good song just in mapping sense it's terrible)
Agree

and

star~~ :)
DJPop
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Isn't "Lost" alone too difficult to play in Taiko? :<

I think Zekira's Taiko would satisfy most skilled Taiko players since Lost's last part is a machine gun lol
ZHSteven
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ZHSteven
congratulations to your 100th map~~XD Like your map very much~
it seems that the map will be extreme... shoushitsu X marisa...
o btw do you still accept new ctb diff now? i want to make one~XD
star~
o almost forget the vote for each ctb diff~~:
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crow's ctb: i think this diff cannot catch the whole song..like darksoul says..when i think the place will be hard, it is easy...but the seems easy part contains losts of red fruit= =
kana's ctb:the whole diff is great~XD but only one problem..i don't like the way using red fruit..it makes it almost like tag map. it is not good for a normal map contains the jump like tag map~~XD
pieguy's ctb:wow~it contains a lot of traingle fruit which i cannot do well....i like the way using these traingles~but maybe... it can be more jumper(only my suggest~)
yoki's ctb:well.... i don't know how to say but..these exteme jumps like flyaway will be human killer...i guess even a very skilful player cannot do it well...
steven's ctb(coming soon...if possible~~XD)
so i think pieguy's maybe the best~
DJPop
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Scores
viewtopic.php?p=465791#p465791


ZHSteven wrote:

o btw do you still accept new ctb diff now? i want to make one~XD
Too late, sorry :(
Thx for the vote btw.
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Change Justin Bieber's Normal to CDFA's normal >w<
Shino
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Shino
Okay, okay. Checked the votes.
I give up.
Remove my diff as soon as possible please.
I don't want to see mine's poor status anymore.
DJPop
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CDFA wrote:

Change Justin Bieber's Normal to CDFA's normal >w<
>__>" done.


crowzen2 wrote:

Okay, okay. Checked the votes.
I give up.
Remove my diff as soon as possible please.
I don't want to see mine's poor status anymore.
I was planning to upload all Taiko ? CTB guest diffs in uppy and add in the first posted.
I've removed yours, but if you want to add to first posted too just call me ;)
MMzz
Elite Mapper
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MMzz

DJPop wrote:

Isn't "Lost" alone too difficult to play in Taiko? :<

I think Zekira's Taiko would satisfy most skilled Taiko players since Lost's last part is a machine gun lol
yeah but there is nothing we can do about the lost diff since it's osu!, it will get played on Taiko anyways.
No need for 2 crazy things for taiko. >_>
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
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TheVileOne
Personally I think all the CTB diffs are completely unplayable with those custom beats. You shouldn't be able to see through the beats. It makes the notes blend so much with the background, it's ridiculous to play.
matthewhln
408 posts
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matthewhln

DJPop wrote:

Isn't "Lost" alone too difficult to play in Taiko? :<

I think Zekira's Taiko would satisfy most skilled Taiko players since Lost's last part is a machine gun lol
Due to words of DJpop,I have tried all of the taiko difficult and lost
(Pass all difficult if I can for three times and choose the best one)

I will post out the result and my view
(Suggestion:Please pay more attention on accuracy and HP state than others)

Ok,let begin

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Lost
Result
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Fail with 74.40%

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HP drain rate is too high for taiko
Also 1/8 in BPM 240 is nearly impossible for taiko
Since it is for Solo,nothing can be blamed


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DJpop's taiko
Result
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1/4 with 3 notes steam is some kind of confusing since this song possess a very high BPM,
like [00:35:030 - 00:38:905]
Different 1/4 pattern (3 notes steam) is much more confusing
like [00:57:030 - 00:58:905],[02:19:030 - 02:22:655],etc

Other 1/4 3 notes is little confusing even they are not stick together
like[00:44:655 (6,7,8)],[00:46:655 (6,7,8)],[00:48:655 (6,7,8)]

Others are fine
Rating:6.75/10


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Zeki-katsu's Judged Taiko
Result
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Very likely with DJpop's taiko, so it possess nearly same problem as DJpop's one

Expect at [00:44:655 (6,7,8)],[00:46:655 (6,7,8)],[00:48:655 (6,7,8)]
It changed it to 5 note with same pattern, this is more better

But there is another problem,
[00:57:030 - 00:58:905],1/4 steams in 240BPM with diffierent colour combined, WTF?

Rating:7/10


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31's Taiko
Result
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Possess TOO many confusing patterns

Good steams though
(Some kind of exciting when playing the map lol)

Seems this is aim for pro-players only
Rating:6.5/10


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ignore's Taiko
Result
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Jackpot XD,oops, that's not the point lol

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Easy pattern,Yeah XD
Using 1/2 or yellow bar instead of 1/4
Most "player-friendly"

But lack of steams, a bit too easy for this song
Rating:7.75/10


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Verdi's Taiko
Result
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Fail with 62.25%


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"Insane" pattern
"Crazy" steam
"Lunatic" 1/8 (BPM 240)

HP drain rate is higher than [Lost]

What I can say is:Even Lost is more better than this
Rating:2.5/10


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To conclue,
There might be really need a taiko difficult for this since Lost is too hard for taiko
I will suggest [Ignore's taiko] among them
Zekira
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Zekira
Simple but effective criticism IMO.
corno
36 posts
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corno
Only CtB D:
I'm not really good at criticizing, but the best CtB difficulty so far is pieguy's.
For Kana's: I think inclining the sliders that start at 02:03:030 would be good, your difficulty is my favorite. :D
Shana
748 posts
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Shana
hmm.. i'm not maper , but I think

[CTB diff]

Kanarin Diff is best..

like slider , Hehe :D
Berncastell
137 posts
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Berncastell
kana's CTB is very good!!!
kana's CTB is very good!!!
kana's CTB is very good!!!
kana's CTB is very good!!!
eru
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eru
Kana's CTB = 8/10
great, i think kana is good at making ctb diffs lol
ctb gods will be satisfied by this ._.

pieguy's CTB = 8.5/10
this diff suits me the best, idk why lol

yoki's CTB = 6.5/10
sorry but in my opinion as a ctb player, slow bpm with little beats to catch is annoying -_-"

btw
STAR~!
DJPop
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Scores updated, thanks for the votes :)
wmfchris
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wmfchris
Not going to post my score...
Generally rrb rrb rrb rrb rbb rbb rbb rbb rbr rbr rbr rbr don't match the song.

DJpop's taiko
~pattern repeats too much
~slow part pretty natrual
~speedy R B R B, I don't know why the last R B R B slowed down.
~big notes spam, though acceptable for BPM 240
~fast slider
Rating : C

Zeki-katsu's Judged Taiko
~WTF? Part of this identically same to other diffs
~I like r b b r b b r b b rbbbb
~The rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbrrbbrr stream ._.
~kiai starts too early? I prefer ~2:05 or even 2:44
Rating : C+

ign's taiko
~Good.
Rating : A-

31's taiko
~pretty good before 2:22 that's unpleasant streams
~rrr bbb rrr R that's good
Rating : B

Verdi's taiko
~"inhuman"
~That's a TAIKO DIFF not a SOLO DIFF dude
Rating : E

Conclusion: ign's taiko : >
Semi_Semi
110 posts
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Semi_Semi
congratulations for your 100th beatmap!!

so nice~


star~
Sawaya
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Sawaya
i think kana's CTB is the best :)
Zekira
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Zekira
~WTF? Part of this identically same to other diffs
Because I just took parts of the other difficulties and pasted it to a diff. None of those notes are my idea

Derp

Priority Taiko diffs are ignore's and Zekira's. Which will you choose?
Just choose both there so that there's both a Muzukashii and an Oni
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus

Zekira wrote:

Muzukashii
nope
Backstep
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Backstep
No comment. :?

สุดจะบรรยายครับ :3
Zekira
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Zekira

lepidopodus wrote:

Zekira wrote:

Muzukashii
nope
:(
DJPop
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Ready to be ranked!! :D

ignore's Taiko & KanaRin's CTB are nominated, congraz ;)
Please recheck your diff, is there anything you want to change?



Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [DJPop's Taiko].osu
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Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Derekku
Why isn't Hatsune Miku in the tags? o-o;
DJPop
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Derekku wrote:

Why isn't Hatsune Miku in the tags? o-o;
Added :oops:
Krisom
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Also, did you recheck the artist :v?
I'm still unsure about the correct one, ask for more opinions, as IOSYS has nothing to do with the musical composition of this =P . I'd use NicoNicoDouga as the artist, though I'm unsure...

I'll try to figure something out >_<

Good luck!
arien666
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arien666

DJPop wrote:

Ready to be ranked!! :D

ignore's Taiko & KanaRin's CTB are nominated, congraz ;)

aru wrote:

[ignorethis] Rate = 8.5/10
Good for [Oni (Normal)] style. Maybe, people can beat this map easier :3
Maybe, I picked up good choice ;_;
Good luck for ignorethis :3
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Nooooooo

Anyway, good luck. :)
ignorethis
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ignorethis
rokodo has made some suggestions and i changed a bit in my dif

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [ignore's Taiko].osu
Mashley
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Mashley
Modded by request of CDFA on my 'post someone else's map' queue.

Easy
Fine

CDFA's Normal
Disagree with the slowdown. This 'song' never stops being a total mess.
01:27:780 (1) - Remove new combo
01:31:280 (1) - ^

Hard
00:43:030 (1,1,1) - These long holds are kinda boring...

Taiko
Fine

CTB
Playstation buttons for fruits? Eh?
The hyper jump is so fast, you might need to add an epilepsy warning... lol

Lost
02:17:405 (4,5,6,7,8) - That triple would work better as a slider, atm it's really awkward
02:33:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Less new combos please.
In the stream... yes, THAT stream, there are sliders that begin at the same time as another slider ends. Kind of impossible, so fix it.
KanaRin
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KanaRin

Mashley wrote:

CTB

The hyper jump is so fast, you might need to add an epilepsy warning... lol
That's okay for CtB player :D
DJPop
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Mashley wrote:

CDFA's Normal
Disagree with the slowdown. This 'song' never stops being a total mess.
01:27:780 (1) - Remove new combo
01:31:280 (1) - ^
CDFA's choices.

Hard
00:43:030 (1,1,1) - These long holds are kinda boring...
Fixed.

Lost
02:17:405 (4,5,6,7,8) - That triple would work better as a slider, atm it's really awkward
Fixed.
02:33:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Less new combos please.
Followed the lyrics. :D
In the stream... yes, THAT stream, there are sliders that begin at the same time as another slider ends. Kind of impossible, so fix it.

Fixed. Hard to fix because osu! can't zoom in any more :(
ignorethis
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ignorethis

DJPop wrote:

Fixed. Hard to fix because osu! can't zoom in any more :(
do you know that you can zoom in more in timing interface (twice as usual) and then switch back to mapping interface ;)
DJPop
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ignorethis wrote:

DJPop wrote:

Fixed. Hard to fix because osu! can't zoom in any more :(
do you know that you can zoom in more in timing interface (twice as usual) and then switch back to mapping interface ;)
Good tip, thx :)
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
You can make the new combo changes, DJPop-san >w<. I'm keeping the slowdown, because I'm silly like that.
Lunah_old
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Rank this, omg
DJPop
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CDFA wrote:

You can make the new combo changes, DJPop-san >w<. I'm keeping the slowdown, because I'm silly like that.
Fixed.
Zekira
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Zekira
ignore's Taiko
Needs a few more notes D:
Larto
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Larto
Lost:
oh god

CtB:
oh god

taiko:
oh go- Hey there's something

The Finish notes in the streams starting 02:19:030 - and 02:43:030 - are not okay. Rokodo and Sander-don, both very experienced taiko players agreed and I won't let this map go into ranking without these finish notes being destroyed.

Hard:
oh god

CDFA- oh god...
...CDFA's Normal:
02:15:030 (1,1) - The repeats of these sliders are terrible as they sync nothing at all and the spacing is fucked. And maybe remove the new combo on the second slider.
02:35:030 (1,2) - I'd personally not stack these sliders as it looks ugly but that's up to you

Easy:
oh good
02:47:030 (1) - This 1/2 repeat slider sounds weird... I mean, the song's "lyrics" are at a 1/8 speed, after all. I wouldn't usually suggest this for an Easy difficulty, but maybe use a 1/4 repeat slider, or something entirely different?
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
*adds stuff* Star rating skyrockets.

*adds spinner* Sky rating skyrockets.

.-.

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [CDFA's Normal].osu
DJPop
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Larto wrote:

taiko:
oh go- Hey there's something

The Finish notes in the streams starting 02:19:030 - and 02:43:030 - are not okay. Rokodo and Sander-don, both very experienced taiko players agreed and I won't let this map go into ranking without these finish notes being destroyed.
He told me to fix to him.

CDFA- oh god...
...CDFA's Normal:
02:15:030 (1,1) - The repeats of these sliders are terrible as they sync nothing at all and the spacing is fucked. And maybe remove the new combo on the second slider.
02:35:030 (1,2) - I'd personally not stack these sliders as it looks ugly but that's up to you
All fixed.

Easy:
oh good
02:47:030 (1) - This 1/2 repeat slider sounds weird... I mean, the song's "lyrics" are at a 1/8 speed, after all. I wouldn't usually suggest this for an Easy difficulty, but maybe use a 1/4 repeat slider, or something entirely different?
Fixed, hope it's alright :/
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus

Larto wrote:

taiko:
oh go- Hey there's something

The Finish notes in the streams starting 02:19:030 - and 02:43:030 - are not okay. Rokodo and Sander-don, both very experienced taiko players agreed and I won't let this map go into ranking without these finish notes being destroyed.
I think I pointed out that... or I didn't? anyway, I agree with that. BPM is high and those big notes stream is too hard to get full score so you need to fix that...

EDIT: Whoops, seems already fixed that? Anyway...

EDIT2: Wait, why 02:47:030 (1) ends 02:51:030 ? There's no sound in the end of the slider in Taiko... shorten it (at least to 02:50:905, 02:50:530 and 02:50:780 recommended) and move 02:51:092 (1) to 02:51:030 please? (don't forget to extend the end to 02:55:030 if you do that)
(or just ignore it cause it's just 62ms difference?)
DJPop
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lepidopodus wrote:

EDIT2: Wait, why 02:47:030 (1) ends 02:51:030 ? There's no sound in the end of the slider in Taiko... shorten it (at least to 02:50:905, 02:50:530 and 02:50:780 recommended) and move 02:51:092 (1) to 02:51:030 please? (don't forget to extend the end to 02:55:030 if you do that)
(or just ignore it cause it's just 62ms difference?)
Fixed.
Larto
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Larto
Here goes nothing.
Mafiamaster
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Mafiamaster
Ranked
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus
Ah, finally, congratulations~
Yuji Tokaji
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Yuji Tokaji
Congratz =D
Zekira
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Zekira
Why are the last sliderstreams only 1/2 apart T_T
Ekoro
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Ekoro


I lol'd in my score and mods. o.o
termerys
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termerys

_LRJ_ wrote:



I lol'd in my score and mods. o.o
lol
DJPop
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lepidopodus wrote:

Ah, finally, congratulations~

Slanox wrote:

Congratz =D
Thanks =D

Zekira wrote:

Why are the last sliderstreams only 1/2 apart T_T
That would be 1/4 streams at 240bpm o.o"
TKiller
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TKiller
I can get 240 bpm streams perfectly and fuck up at 120. Damn you, my hands!

can't get past 6million mark, but that's probably because I'm still drunk :D
Legalist
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I love this map <3
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Congrats DJPop. :) (and CDFA, KanaRin, and ignorethis too)
soulfear
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soulfear
omg
ZHSteven
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ZHSteven
DJpop:Can I gather all the ctb map and create a new graveyard one? some of the ctb map not being use is good also~
DJPop
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ZHSteven wrote:

DJpop:Can I gather all the ctb map and create a new graveyard one? some of the ctb map not being use is good also~
Yes, you can.

But I've already left those diffs here for download, so you don't need to do that.
viewtopic.php?p=465791#p465791
ZHSteven
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DJPop wrote:

ZHSteven wrote:

DJpop:Can I gather all the ctb map and create a new graveyard one? some of the ctb map not being use is good also~
Yes, you can.

But I've already left those diffs here for download, so you don't need to do that.
viewtopic.php?p=465791#p465791
but that is an easy way to let ppl to dl those map~~XD and i want to make my own one~
thank you~
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito
Kana's Ctb is not forever alone anymore.
Mastodonio
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Mastodonio

OnosakiHito wrote:

Kana's Ctb is not forever alone anymore.
It was not alone even at that time : http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51945&m=2
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