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Newbie Game 14: Flavorless Mafia [Game Over]

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Navizel

beeboy123 wrote:

Especially when I am sheeping a top town read who can read people better then I can.
Do you really just plan on sheeping all game

At least from what I can see Sakura has reads of her own
-[Jess]-

Navizel wrote:

reasons?
Frosty is always town according to his luck
MB 's read seen town,however he might also be scum
Zaph,idk gut read
GIF's random PoE make me feel this is a thing that only scum do
Navizel

-[Jess]- wrote:

Navizel wrote:

reasons?
Frosty is always town according to his luck
MB 's read seen town,however he might also be scum
Zaph,idk gut read
GIF's random PoE make me feel this is a thing that only scum do
What about Sakura's PoE then? and beeboy cause he's just following GIF?

If you're townreading Frostings because he's always town, should we also scumread you because you're always scum?
Navizel
Unvote btw
Sakura

-[Jess]- wrote:

[MB 's read seen town,however he might also be scum
GuyInFreezer
GIF's random PoE make me feel this is a thing that only scum do
Random?

Zaphkael

Zaphkael wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

Ok fine as long as you vote GIF eventually.
Why GIF tho pls
The one time i can play with him
Ok that sounded weird

BUT YOU GET MY POINT
leave him until my scumradar catches him
Until then ill protect him
And lock him up in my basement
And OH NO I AINT BE GETTIN SHOT
Cuz i know where you'll go
(I hope I now successfully soft fakeclaimed all possible PR's)
This is the part where I started to townread him. The context doesn't tell us shit but I'm the guy who usually looks for tones and stuff and I like his attitude coming from this post. Granted I haven't played with the dude yet but hey mafia is not a game where you need an experience with a guy to read him.

Zaphkael wrote:

metal sonic1 wrote:

A long, long, time ago, in a planet far far away, thou was on the blue team of a foul xenobladian cult
Then I got my first infraction ever and force replaced at lylo and gimped and didn't get to wear two scummies that year

But I can't remember anything more relevant
So you are basically metal sonic on mafiascum. That makes it easier to get meta.
Minor stuff, but this shows that he is thinking of forming reads, which is townish.

Zaphkael wrote:

Eh?
Sakura townread me way too fast, especially after last game
I said 'ill ignore that though' AND SHE JUST WENT WITH THAT
i have been scum with her in a marathon and i know that meta shouldnt be used here
But she gets awkward and tries to avoid stuff
What did she do?
Yes.
Sudden paranoia of someone townreading him quicker than his pace. Even though I don't agree with his decision he came out decently town with the way of showing his here. Attempted reaction test is a bonus.

And then there's his posting in general that I really shouldn't need to explain to y'all.

Remember when I first said I had my first townread?
This dude.

Sakura

If I have to tl;dr, she's not attempting to 'hide' around me. And that's enough, really.
It's also probably hard to explain why she's town because for some reason she adopted my style of playing a bit so I can, well, kinda see her when she's town, and that's what I rely on reading her which makes explaining why I townread her very difficult without just going "lolmeta trust me on this".
But then, best way to read her is to draw the game out and see if she keeps this up the whole darn game but it's D1, so my read accuracy I'm going to say is 90%.

Oh also, if you keep tell her "omg why do you only say 'X is town???', she's just going to do more. Just saying XD

So why am I not quoting stuff and do the similiar thing above?
Congratulations, you failed the reading check. Please read above for an answer for that question.

Tsukasa/Beeboy

Yes, I'm going to group them. I swear I'm not being lazy.

In case of Tsukasa, I've seen him unable to discern trolling before, so him jumping on to my RQS was very normal and to be honest, I baited that myself for an amusement. Anyway, if you ISO him, you can see that he has no problem sharing his read changes without being asked and is very transparent (in fact, too transparent) on his read development. And that's town.

So now beeboy. He is very prone to sheeping. I haven't seen him sheeping as scum (in fact, I've never seen beeboy scum before. Oh wait, yes I have. LAL Hmm. Come to think of it, I don't think he tried to sheep anyone as scum? But then that game was 2 years ago.). Despite his sub-par trolling in this game though, he is capable of attempting to explain his scumread for support, defending his read, and those actions generally comes from a town mindset.
And most importantly, he is sheeping me.

Frostings

TL;DR :) :) :) :) :) :) 8-) 8-) 8-) >:( :lol:

For one, I don't think his "$UP3R PARANOI@" is not faked. With the mindset, FoS on Sakura makes sense.
He also shows uneasyness on suspicious movements (like mass sheeping. Those can look very awkward time to time.)

My only problem is, I can't tell when the dude is joking or not. This is probably my weakest townread and this is where I draw the line between "towns" and "non-towns."
GuyInFreezer
"omg MB is town as shit why are you not townread him"

I don't want to.
GuyInFreezer
If I have to pick 2 from 3 leftovers, it's Navi/Jess.
GuyInFreezer
At this I'm ready to turn this into a speedgame and lynch Jess, Navi, MB, Frostings in order to win the game. We do get 2 chances of mislynch after all and I doubt it will even reach Frostings.
GuyInFreezer
At this point I'm ready to turn this into a speedgame and quicklynch Jess, Navi, MB, Frostings in order to win the game. We do get 2 chances of mislynch after all and I doubt it will even reach Frostings.*
Zaphkael
Guys how hard can it be to scumread me?
I want to be a bit scummy
Because it gives me access to delicious 1v1's

Also im paranoid af for ppl that townread me because it makes me feel like its just abusing my newbness

That said GIF your townread on me is bullshit really, there is nothing in those quotes that makes me town
Jess is lynchbait right now which makes you look bad
Tsukasa is a null read rather than town
Mb ks town imo but w/e

YES I SKIP PEOPLE BUT IF YOU WANT YOUR NAME HERE ASK
like, ive been phoneposting all game, both this game and last game so im lazy af
Sakura

Zaphkael wrote:

Guys how hard can it be to scumread me?
I want to be a bit scummy
Because it gives me access to delicious 1v1's

Also im paranoid af for ppl that townread me because it makes me feel like its just abusing my newbness

That said GIF your townread on me is bullshit really, there is nothing in those quotes that makes me town
Jess is lynchbait right now which makes you look bad
Tsukasa is a null read rather than town
Mb ks town imo but w/e

YES I SKIP PEOPLE BUT IF YOU WANT YOUR NAME HERE ASK
like, ive been phoneposting all game, both this game and last game so im lazy af
How much more towny can you get srsly
Sakura
Sorry if that's frustrating you, but i have a feeling you dont realize how towny your posts are.
Which is fine by me.
Zaphkael
Well maybe im just good scum

I won last game as solo scum?
Sakura

Zaphkael wrote:

Well maybe im just good scum

I won last game as solo scum?
You shouldn't underestimate my abilities.
I find it insulting that you think because you won a scum game i shouldnt be able to read you as town.

I understand if you think im scum because you think i shouldnt be able to townread you, but that's on you after i eventually flip if you do manage to drive a lynch on me.
Zaphkael
I never said that
You are just soooo confident in your read
While ive proven that the reads on me arent always accurate
Hell, i claimed 1shot vig saulus and i still won
And i changed my claim like twice
What makes you so sure this time?
Sakura

Zaphkael wrote:

I never said that
You are just soooo confident in your read
While ive proven that the reads on me arent always accurate
Hell, i claimed 1shot vig saulus and i still won
And i changed my claim like twice
What makes you so sure this time?
And arent you the one that said that im confident as town?
GuyInFreezer
If you waste your life playing mafia for several years

Sometimes things just come to you.
Sakura
Apparently Zaph thinks that i should be like 90% of the osu! players and get incredibly paranoid of ppl that win scum games.

Just like ppl got paranoid of me after Madoka.
Sakura
Anyway, i guess i'll explain my townread to you in more detail, this is after all a newbie game, and you deserve to know.

I gave you an initial townread, your response was to retaliate against me, despite the fact that i keep getting townread, you keep doubting me.
This is a town reaction, because i wont be easy to mislynch at all, scum you would have just accepted the townread and lynch whoever's town of Navi/Jess (since if you're scum it'd be impossible for them both to be scum).
Your confrontation with me is what has made me townread you, scum is looking for mislynches, not engagements, specially newb scum.

And since you keep brining up Greatest Idea Mafia 3, let's remember something.

You were ALMOST lynched Day 1, this in fact shows that you werent being very town or were fooling anyone and the only reason you won that game is because town bought your claim without question, that's more of a fact of town playing badly, not you playing well, so dont think that because you won that game as scum, you'd be easily fool mafia veterans if you were scum and as such, we should be wary of you.
Zaphkael

Sakura wrote:

Zaphkael wrote:

I never said that
You are just soooo confident in your read
While ive proven that the reads on me arent always accurate
Hell, i claimed 1shot vig saulus and i still won
And i changed my claim like twice
What makes you so sure this time?
And arent you the one that said that im confident as town?
I thought i said you were confident as scum?
Because in the eleventh hour you were unstable af
And town


But fuck meta

GuyInFreezer wrote:

If you waste your life playing mafia for several years

Sometimes things just come to you.
Ok?
Note that the elevth hour was my first game and that im not a veteran like u
So i dont understand what you mean
I dont think anyone progresses much in this game, no matter how much you play it
Ok i went from lynchbait to seemingly obvtown but stil
Sakura

Zaphkael wrote:

I thought i said you were confident as scum?
Because in the eleventh hour you were unstable af
And town

Zaphkael wrote:

i have been scum with her in a marathon and i know that meta shouldnt be used here
But she gets awkward and tries to avoid stuff
What did she do?
Yes.
I think that's the direct opposite of confident.

But since you're wondering me being emotionally unstable and/or confident is largely dependant on the actual game and irrelevant to my alignment, i can be confident as either scum or town, and i can be emotionally unstable as both scum and town, but to know that you'd need a way larger sample size, dont try to meta me if you dont intend to read all my 80+ games to form an accurate read.
Zaphkael
Ok then

As i said

Fuck meta

If you want my meta you can read 4 games.
And marathons which are irreleant but i love them since im good at those
Zaphkael
also i dont know if you noticed how much i forced this 1v1

Lets get to real scum
E.g. frostings and GIF
vote: GIF
Sakura

Zaphkael wrote:

also i dont know if you noticed how much i forced this 1v1

Lets get to real scum
E.g. frostings and GIF
vote: GIF
If you call that 1v1, you've never seen me 1v1... oh wait yeah you have.
Sakura
Also GIF's town
Zaphkael
Thank you for sharing that with me.

Now if you will excuse me, i vote where the fuck i want.

(Sakura never ever play marathons with me thanks xd)
Frostings
Vote Zaphkael
Topic Starter
Zexion
Votecount 1.8
-[Jess]- [3] - GuyInFreezer, Sakura, beeboy123
- Magic Bomb - [1] - Tsukasa
Zaphkael [1] - Frostings
GuyInFreezer [1] - Zaphkael
Sakura [0] -
Navizel [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
Tsukasa [0] -
Frostings [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - - Magic Bomb -, -[Jess]-, Navizel
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Deadline for Day 1 is Wendnesday, 20th July 2:00 AM UTC.
Zaphkael

Frostings wrote:

Vote Zaphkael
Love you too <3
Was that omgus btw?


@mod i think i already said this but vla blah blah
Tsukasa
Well this is going nowhere

Bored as fuck
Tsukasa
Unvote:

Vote: Jess

Let's see what L-1 would make him do
Navizel
It's Jess so I'm not sure if he would even do anything.
Navizel
At this point, I like to think Jess is just there so we can fill up players
Frostings

Zaphkael wrote:

Frostings wrote:

Vote Zaphkael
Love you too <3
Was that omgus btw?
No. I didn't even notice you were scumreading me :)
Frostings
I'm voting you because that was actually the worst 1v1 I've ever read
What's the point of forcing a 1v1 on a townread except to gain towncred?
GuyInFreezer

Zaphkael wrote:

also i dont know if you noticed how much i forced this 1v1

Lets get to real scum
E.g. frostings and GIF
vote: GIF
I don't do 1v1 becaue I'm lazy and 1v1 requires effort.
Especially against my townread.
GuyInFreezer

Navizel wrote:

It's Jess so I'm not sure if he would even do anything.
Try placing one more vote on him.
I'm pretty sure something exciting will happen then.
GuyInFreezer
Also what I meant there is that eventually you'll be able to find obvtown and go "lol obvtown" easily day 1.
Navizel
Not hammering yet even though I'm tempted to. I'm hoping he'll answer my questions although it might be pointless.
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