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Morimori Atsushi - Tits or get the fuck out!!

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Rizia
recheck
[NNK's Hyper!!]
00:34:989 (5,6) - 之間用番1.2x ds? 後面00:35:398 (6,7,8) - 都係1.2
02:09:216 (2) - 同 02:09:353 (3) - 可以近番d 因為距離前面係3/4 後面轉左做1/2

[Hell Extra!!]
02:09:353 (2,3,1) - 有d遠?
-N a n a k o-
Topic Starter
Regou
Nerf左個pattern喇 ._.
Updated everything!!
Rizia
bubbled
sahuang
卧槽?
hype!!
Mint
regou too pro
will post soon(tm)
Mint
from pm request

[General]
  1. Please add warning in map description for NSFW language.
[Easy]
  1. 00:31:716 (1) - Offscreen.
[FreeSongs' Extra!!]
  1. 00:31:171 (1) - Seems strange to end this on 1/8. 1/2 or 1/4 would seem more logical to me?
  2. 00:42:625 (5) - Expected this jump to be much larger tbh.
  3. 00:54:353 (4,5) - 1/8 as extended slider seems too strange and effect hit-window. Hope you change to 1/4 instead, if you want higher SV, add green line instead.
  4. 01:08:807 (1,2) - Rather than having a weird, highly unpredictable 3/8 gap, would change (1) into a 1/4 kickslider instead. YOu did this before with the triplets and that works much better.
  5. 01:13:171 (1) - Uhm... this touches border of the playfield... doubt whether offscreen or not actually, but better to move up.
  6. 01:13:171 (1) - break where
  7. 01:34:989 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Hmm, quite random placement to me? Having the 3rd one the same feels strange, since the transition doesn't feel like something new at all. Try this? http://puu.sh/pP8wK/e9a05380e2.jpg
  8. 02:27:080 (1) - With or without whistle, I can't hear any difference here. Would raise the volume, would deem this as inaudible.
[Hell Extra!!]
  1. 01:34:034 (2,1) - Hit window of 1/8 really affects gameplay. Also, this looks exactly the same as 1/4 patterns. If you want larger slider, snap to 1/4 instead and increase SV (with NC if needed).
  2. 01:53:262 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Hit-normal is close to inaudible in this section. I hope you increase the volume here. Will likely apply to other difficulties as well.
  3. 02:05:943 (4,1) - Too far, even with your style.
  4. Awesome work. I don't really enjoy maps or songs like these, but this is amazing *-*
Call me back.
Topic Starter
Regou

appleeaterx wrote:

from pm request

[General]
  1. Please add warning in map description for NSFW language.
[Easy]
  1. 00:31:716 (1) - Offscreen.
[Hell Extra!!]
  1. 01:34:034 (2,1) - Hit window of 1/8 really affects gameplay. Also, this looks exactly the same as 1/4 patterns. If you want larger slider, snap to 1/4 instead and increase SV (with NC if needed).
  2. 01:53:262 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Hit-normal is close to inaudible in this section. I hope you increase the volume here. Will likely apply to other difficulties as well.
  3. 02:05:943 (4,1) - Too far, even with your style.
  4. Awesome work. I don't really enjoy maps or songs like these, but this is amazing *-* Thank you!! QwQ
Call me back.
All fixed :) Now waiting for the reply from FreeSongs
FreeSongs

appleeaterx wrote:

from pm request

[FreeSongs' Extra!!]
  1. 00:31:171 (1) - Seems strange to end this on 1/8. 1/2 or 1/4 would seem more logical to me? fixed (now it ends on 1/2)
  2. 00:42:625 (5) - Expected this jump to be much larger tbh. increased the jump a bit
  3. 00:54:353 (4,5) - 1/8 as extended slider seems too strange and effect hit-window. Hope you change to 1/4 instead, if you want higher SV, add green line instead. changed to 1/4
  4. 01:08:807 (1,2) - Rather than having a weird, highly unpredictable 3/8 gap, would change (1) into a 1/4 kickslider instead. YOu did this before with the triplets and that works much better. changed the 1/8 slider to a circle. Hope it feels better now
  5. 01:13:171 (1) - Uhm... this touches border of the playfield... doubt whether offscreen or not actually, but better to move up. moved it up
  6. 01:13:171 (1) - break where fixed
  7. 01:34:989 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Hmm, quite random placement to me? Having the 3rd one the same feels strange, since the transition doesn't feel like something new at all. Try this? http://puu.sh/pP8wK/e9a05380e2.jpg I like your way too but I think my initial thought was to follow the pitch. The first 3 all have the pitch going down while the fourth one is going up. I will prefer to keep them like this
  8. 02:27:080 (1) - With or without whistle, I can't hear any difference here. Would raise the volume, would deem this as inaudible. raised the volume up a bit
Thanks for modding!!!

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Title:Tits or get the fuck out!!
TitleUnicode:Tits or get the fuck out!!
Artist:Morimori Atsushi
ArtistUnicode:モリモリあつし
Creator:Regou
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Source:東方Project
Tags:zun 上海アリス幻樂団 team shanghai alice 東方神霊廟 ten desires. touhou shinreibyou デザイアドライブ desire drive アレンジ arrange Frey Blizs -N_a_n_a_k_o- FreeSongs -Nanako-
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Rizia
:) GOGOGO
Blizs
yayyyy....
anyway can you add "Fantastica" on tags ? :3
Topic Starter
Regou

Blizs wrote:

yayyyy....
anyway can you add "Fantastica" on tags ? :3
ok done :3
[Mahua]
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Hell Extra!!



01:33:898 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1) - best of regou



kds plz :D
Mint
是人?
Blizs
yay.... gratss >w<
Kaine
onii-chan
dytedy
woops
Kyubey
Hell Extra is a neat difficulty, but 00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this feels like overkill, honestly. Such a type of repetitive 1/4 jumps in 220 BPM map is totally painful, even if sliders have bigger hit window, following it requires very good and fast control and aim, and even given that this pattern doesn't become less painful. I understand this is a hard map, 7* etc, but in the terms of design you used this one stands out of place. I hardly suggest changing it to something more befitting the whole map style, which doesn't present such a type of 1/4 jumps.
-Nya-
That title is not safe for children >.< Can't believe this is allowed.
Rizia
gratzzzzzzzz
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TKS WHEN
Surono
D: raep prats
Flask

dytedy wrote:

woops
Eni
Love the hardest diff. Nice map.
Shiirn

Kyubey wrote:

Hell Extra is a neat difficulty, but 00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this feels like overkill, honestly. Such a type of repetitive 1/4 jumps in 220 BPM map is totally painful, even if sliders have bigger hit window, following it requires very good and fast control and aim, and even given that this pattern doesn't become less painful. I understand this is a hard map, 7* etc, but in the terms of design you used this one stands out of place. I hardly suggest changing it to something more befitting the whole map style, which doesn't present such a type of 1/4 jumps.
Expanding on this, there are several places where the map design seems to completely defy itself in several places. To help this mod make sense, I'm going to color these points. Anything that is black is just a random comment. Anything dark red is serious, to me.

The entire map has this general feel of "I've mapped the exact same rhythm a bunch of times, it's got to be boring now, so let's do something completely different!" that many, many mappers fall victim to. Also, what happened to the new combos? They're completely differently patterned as the map goes on. What happened to the 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2 jumps? they're just normal 1,2,3,4 in the kiai, or other setups.


00:30:762 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I don't understand these. These are normal 1/2 hits, but here they're sliders, for some reason? 00:31:170 (1) - is also very hard to avoid getting a 100 on due to the nature of hold sliders and burst movement.

00:35:262 (3,4,1) - There is no reason for this. This musical pattern has happened several times before and nowhere else but the kiai does it have such massive spacing.

00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - As kyubey said, these are not acceptable. The music does not change here, nor does it have any beats that make these particular notes significant. While looking at the map, I was almost certain these would be part of a breakdown section, but no, they're just... randomly in the middle of a normal 1/2 section?

00:57:898 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I really like the stream after these notes, but these are basically mapped to nothing audible. If I strain my ears and turn up my volume to max i can maybe hear the same voice, but it only really kicks in at 00:58:443 - . But I can hear 01:06:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - just fine so who knows maybe i'm just silly.

01:06:080 (1) - This has the same issue as 00:31:170 (1) - . A little-known fact is that repeats in sliders are actually much less lenient than slider endings in their hit detection windows - they're actually basically OD infinity, if your cursor isn't in the circle at the exact moment of the repeat, you break, period. (Unless this behavior has changed.). This means that the player basically has to stop-start their cursor to avoid potentially breaking basically at random. How to fix? Just move the slider after them closer or rework the pattern, if you want to keep the 1/8 repeats.

01:25:716 (1) - why the fuck is there an oniichan hitsound here lol, also fuck meme hitsounding like cat meows and shit.

01:31:716 (1,2,3,4) - i'm pretty sure there is no 1/3 here.

01:34:716 (1) - This is sliderbreak central. The slidertick is invisible during play, so the slowdown is extremely hard to gauge, and since it's invisible, even if the player knows that it's a slowdown, it's hard to tell when you can depart from the slider early to hit 01:34:989 (1) - . That said, I really, really like the pattern before it, it's really cool!

01:38:534 (2,3,4) - See, normally you'd go "wel this is like 00:35:262 (3,4,1) - so it can't be okay right? well, the 2 here at least is pointed at the next note so it's not quite as shitty flow, and it's a downward motion which is easier than left->right+down, but the spacing is still pretty dumb.

01:47:262 (2,3,4) - stahp at least put the 3 closer to the previous slider

02:05:943 (4,1) - Seriously this is extremely unfair for the player. 90-95% of FCs will either 100 or break here and the player will never feel like it's their fault.. You can't just replace a 1/4 slider with a 1/8 with a repeat. It doesn't work like that and I don't know why two BNs thought it was okay.


just as a side note 02:07:034 (1,2,3,4,5) - star rating whoring pls

EDIT: 01:02:262 (1,1) - this is what you should be doing for sliders with repeats. They're much closer to the following slider and thereby much less likely to break because you don't need to "guess" when to move your cursor away.



So as a TL;DR for a potential DQ:

00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - These are not acceptable. The music does not change here, nor does it have any beats that make these particular notes significant. While looking at the map, I was almost certain these would be part of a breakdown section, but no, they're just... randomly in the middle of a normal 1/2 section?
01:31:716 (1,2,3,4) - i'm pretty sure there is no 1/3 here.

And the 1/8 sliders which cause unfair sliderbreaks galore - just look at the replays!



If you want me to help you go over new combos and help smooth out your patterns so they make sense with the music without being unfair for the player, feel free to message me. I actually think this map is generally fine other than the above issues, but have not looked very hard at the other difficulties. But then, apparently by looking at the Hell difficulty, I've already done more than both of the BNs.
Topic Starter
Regou

Shiirn wrote:

Kyubey wrote:

Hell Extra is a neat difficulty, but 00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this feels like overkill, honestly. Such a type of repetitive 1/4 jumps in 220 BPM map is totally painful, even if sliders have bigger hit window, following it requires very good and fast control and aim, and even given that this pattern doesn't become less painful. I understand this is a hard map, 7* etc, but in the terms of design you used this one stands out of place. I hardly suggest changing it to something more befitting the whole map style, which doesn't present such a type of 1/4 jumps.
Expanding on this, there are several places where the map design seems to completely defy itself in several places. To help this mod make sense, I'm going to color these points. Anything that is black is just a random comment. Anything dark red is serious, to me.

The entire map has this general feel of "I've mapped the exact same rhythm a bunch of times, it's got to be boring now, so let's do something completely different!" that many, many mappers fall victim to. Also, what happened to the new combos? They're completely differently patterned as the map goes on. What happened to the 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2 jumps? they're just normal 1,2,3,4 in the kiai, or other setups.


00:30:762 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I don't understand these. These are normal 1/2 hits, but here they're sliders, for some reason? 00:31:170 (1) - is also very hard to avoid getting a 100 on due to the nature of hold sliders and burst movement. They are sliders because i want to emphasize the lag of the bass in the music. Indeed player won't get 100 here if they hold the note for sufficient time while clicking them like normal 1/2 note.

00:35:262 (3,4,1) - There is no reason for this. This musical pattern has happened several times before and nowhere else but the kiai does it have such massive spacing. again this pattern is used to emphasize the bass at 00:35:534

00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - As kyubey said, these are not acceptable. The music does not change here, nor does it have any beats that make these particular notes significant. While looking at the map, I was almost certain these would be part of a breakdown section, but no, they're just... randomly in the middle of a normal 1/2 section? this is exactly how the bass was being implied in the music. Listen to the music again! and for playability, I found several testplayers and I found them having no problem in this section.

00:57:898 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I really like the stream after these notes, but these are basically mapped to nothing audible. If I strain my ears and turn up my volume to max i can maybe hear the same voice, but it only really kicks in at 00:58:443 - . But I can hear 01:06:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - just fine so who knows maybe i'm just silly. They represent the "eheheheheheheheh" sound which is in 1/4 beat in the music

01:06:080 (1) - This has the same issue as 00:31:170 (1) - . A little-known fact is that repeats in sliders are actually much less lenient than slider endings in their hit detection windows - they're actually basically OD infinity, if your cursor isn't in the circle at the exact moment of the repeat, you break, period. (Unless this behavior has changed.). This means that the player basically has to stop-start their cursor to avoid potentially breaking basically at random. How to fix? Just move the slider after them closer or rework the pattern, if you want to keep the 1/8 repeats. that 1/8 is how the bass was implied in the music ;( and i really want to keep this as long as player would realize that they would need to hold the note for a while

01:25:716 (1) - why the fuck is there an oniichan hitsound here lol, also fuck meme hitsounding like cat meows and shit. that sound fits the music well so~

01:31:716 (1,2,3,4) - i'm pretty sure there is no 1/3 here. nope, i am mapping to the hissing sound in the music.

01:34:716 (1) - This is sliderbreak central. The slidertick is invisible during play, so the slowdown is extremely hard to gauge, and since it's invisible, even if the player knows that it's a slowdown, it's hard to tell when you can depart from the slider early to hit 01:34:989 (1) - . That said, I really, really like the pattern before it, it's really cool! I already use NC to hint players and I hope it would be fine?

01:38:534 (2,3,4) - See, normally you'd go "wel this is like 00:35:262 (3,4,1) - so it can't be okay right? well, the 2 here at least is pointed at the next note so it's not quite as shitty flow, and it's a downward motion which is easier than left->right+down, but the spacing is still pretty dumb. That's not true. With the jumpy slider jump, players would have their flow directed to 01:38:739 (3) - smoothly as the player would move their cursor in a pretty fast way.

01:47:262 (2,3,4) - stahp at least put the 3 closer to the previous slider ^

02:05:943 (4,1) - Seriously this is extremely unfair for the player. 90-95% of FCs will either 100 or break here and the player will never feel like it's their fault.. You can't just replace a 1/4 slider with a 1/8 with a repeat. It doesn't work like that and I don't know why two BNs thought it was okay. that 1/8 is actually representing the bass in the music.


just as a side note 02:07:034 (1,2,3,4,5) - star rating whoring pls



So as a TL;DR for a potential DQ:

00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - These are not acceptable. The music does not change here, nor does it have any beats that make these particular notes significant. While looking at the map, I was almost certain these would be part of a breakdown section, but no, they're just... randomly in the middle of a normal 1/2 section?
01:31:716 (1,2,3,4) - i'm pretty sure there is no 1/3 here.

And the 1/8 sliders which cause unfair sliderbreaks galore - just look at the replays!



If you want me to help you go over new combos and help smooth out your patterns so they make sense with the music without being unfair for the player, feel free to message me. I actually think this map is generally fine other than the above issues, but have not looked very hard at the other difficulties. But then, apparently by looking at the Hell difficulty, I've already done more than both of the BNs.
Thanks for your mod!
Shiirn
You mean you randomly made some of the same bass sounds that happen for 90% of the map much harder and awkward for no reason? "It's to emphasize the bass" means absolutely nothing when that bass sounds the exact same as the bass before it and after it. There are some places where the bass is different, and you mapped them differently, and that's fine - even good! But most of those are just random and make no sense.


And I'm not telling you to get rid of the 1/8. I'm telling you to change their spacing so they are actually FCable without relying on luck.
Topic Starter
Regou
They are not really random- to explain it in another way, that is simply how I interpret the music. At the point where some of the patterns like 1/8 is used, that is the point where I found the bass is stronger. I didn't do that for no reason. :V

And for those 1/8, they are of course FCable, it just requires some skills that players don't usuallly have other than doing some crazy fullscreen jump.
Kimitakari
Call for Loctav!
[Mahua]
起飞啦
谁敢强行降落就打死谁
Edit:
i think EDM source is diversify.
and i think https://osu.ppy.sh/s/5875 this map maybe a bit noisy but fun.
ManP
lol gratz
Buttercup
nice map :p
congrats
Akali
Hula
So. Another shining example of shitmaps being ranked.

This is made for meme and difficulty, good job m8.
Okoratu
Hello Regou,

I think the things which Shiirn and Kyubey pointed out should be discussed more thoroughly, so I'll take this down for the time being.
Specifically, as a player and mapper I agree that the following things should need a bit more discussion before passing on to ranked:

[Hell Extra!!]
00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This is a one of a kind pattern, I don't see that much of a reason to space it this drastically once in the entire diff and then to stop doing it. I also don't hear anything special in comparison to the rest of the section, so having a more clear explanation on what you were trying to do with this pattern would be cool.
00:31:170 (1) - these and the other spaced 1/8 sliders are really easy to break on at this bpm, because of overlapping hitwindows. I think you should use them more carefully.
01:25:716 (1) - Adding a female saying "onii-chan" seems random and out of place here (same applies to the random cat hitsound, too).
01:31:716 (1,2,3,4) - I've asked around and no one I asked heard the 1/3 here. I don't hear it either so you should really consider changing it.
Spork Lover
Just as a quick side note, 01:38:262 (1) - the slider end on this slider is more than halfway over the grid :p
Topic Starter
Regou

Okorin wrote:

Hello Regou,

I think the things which Shiirn and Kyubey pointed out should be discussed more thoroughly, so I'll take this down for the time being.
Specifically, as a player and mapper I agree that the following things should need a bit more discussion before passing on to ranked:
As expected lol
[Hell Extra!!]
00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This is a one of a kind pattern, I don't see that much of a reason to space it this drastically once in the entire diff and then to stop doing it. I also don't hear anything special in comparison to the rest of the section, so having a more clear explanation on what you were trying to do with this pattern would be cool.
The original idea is something like that: during mapping i heard a bass which is extended for approx. 1/2 long, followed by a weaker 1/4 sound so I attempted to use this pattern. At the same time with the identical key of the bass, i used identical slider+note pattern here to represent it. Turn out I found it was good as it allows the player to feel the bass other than the melody, making the map more interesting so I keep it. Wouldn't mind to change it to something else to push the map further forward, but if possible I'd like to keep it.
00:31:170 (1) - these and the other spaced 1/8 sliders are really easy to break on at this bpm, because of overlapping hitwindows. I think you should use them more carefully.
That's why the map is challenging :P. Well, during the last 2 days, I have glanced through some of the replays and I found that most of the players are able to play that kind of slider, showing that breaking at that point should be the problem of lack of skill rather than the problem of the map. On the other hand such kind of pattern also provide challenge other than fullscreen jump. Should be an interesting thing isn't it?
01:25:716 (1) - Adding a female saying "onii-chan" seems random and out of place here (same applies to the random cat hitsound, too).
Let me rephrase what is said by Mahua by a little bit (He is bad in English, attempted to say something similar but failed lol) :
" Element in EDM music diversifies and those "onii-chan" hitsound and cat hitsound should be considered as one of them but not as meme hitsound."
That's exactly what I think too, and this kind of hitsounding technique is already being used long time ago in the nuts diff in https://osu.ppy.sh/s/5875, which tons of random hitsound that fits the song was used. From my perspective they don't really feel so awkward and some of the players do like it, too (hi Kyubey), so I'd try to keep it.

01:31:716 (1,2,3,4) - I've asked around and no one I asked heard the 1/3 here. I don't hear it either so you should really consider changing it.
Alright, if no one heard that then that should be a mistake. I changed it to 1/4 here(which should works now)
and for 01:38:262 (1) - , according to apple they should still be considered as rankable(?) tell me if I'm wrong so that I can fix it.
Okoratu
This is all my personal opinion on things, regard it as such.

I believe the slider which is mentioned is on-screen on both 4:3 resolutions and 16:9 so I wouldn't have any problems with them being like this (doublecheck that yourself ingame using a 4:3 resolution).

00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - the reasoning you provided for this is something among the lines of >I want this to be unique<, but then my next question would be why do you only do it once? It's not really expectable since you don't do anything like it before or after the pattern that would hint at its existence (so i'd be either for do it more often or get rid of it, as both will make the map more coherent).
01:10:443 (5) - http://puu.sh/pXo3b/354f9ed194.jpg I think playing a quint for this one plays better by the way, a semi random quad just leaves you hanging after 4 clicks
02:07:716 (1,2,3,4) - i think playing spaced 220 bpm quads in the end is a bit overkill. I would have gone for an 1/2 slider for this one instead because that seems more fair.

Not really happy with your onii-chan hitsound explanation as it's basically "someone else did something like this so i would like to as well", i think it drags the level of seriousness in the set down by being so out of place, the opinions of others would be appreciated
Topic Starter
Regou

Okorin wrote:

This is all my personal opinion on things, regard it as such.

I believe the slider which is mentioned is on-screen on both 4:3 resolutions and 16:9 so I wouldn't have any problems with them being like this (doublecheck that yourself ingame using a 4:3 resolution).

00:56:807 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - the reasoning you provided for this is something among the lines of >I want this to be unique<, but then my next question would be why do you only do it once? It's not really expectable since you don't do anything like it before or after the pattern that would hint at its existence (so i'd be either for do it more often or get rid of it, as both will make the map more coherent).
The reason of doing it once only is I want to show the melody as well so I did it in the next section 01:05:534 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - and for the reason why I didn't do that before, it is because I want to show that the first section starting from 00:20:807 (1) - and the second section starting from 00:55:716 (1) - are quite different and I used this pattern to tell the player.
01:10:443 (5) - http://puu.sh/pXo3b/354f9ed194.jpg I think playing a quint for this one plays better by the way, a semi random quad just leaves you hanging after 4 clicks
of course it would be easier to play, but in the music that "ha" sound does extended by exactly 1/1 beat so it might not be a good idea.
02:07:716 (1,2,3,4) - i think playing spaced 220 bpm quads in the end is a bit overkill. I would have gone for an 1/2 slider for this one instead because that seems more fair.
If I removed the stream then this 02:08:807 (1,2,3) - would look kinda odd. Anyway if you guys think it is way too difficult to play, here's a good news: i reduced the spacing(by a bit)

Not really happy with your onii-chan hitsound explanation as it's basically "someone else did something like this so i would like to as well", i think it drags the level of seriousness in the set down by being so out of place, the opinions of others would be appreciated
yup. Let's see what do other people say and go back to a conclusion later. by the way I didn't do that because someone else did that so I try it too, but want to make my hitsound unique. Don't get me wrong :( I'm saying that someone did that too because I want to show you that was allowed before and properly, should be allowed in this time too.
Updating the map again.
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