Karen wrote:
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01:15:792 (5,1) - why jump here? Fixed
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00:01:129 - feel so empty here, i think you need to add a circle for consistency with 00:04:727 (2) - forum pm
00:08:326 - ^ forum pm
also 01:28:610 - you can mute the spinner end by adding a green line with 5% volume imo Fixed
will qualify after another set goes out of qualify section :3
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congrats mapper mapper indo 
Ray <3
Ray <3
In Hard and Insane respectively:
- 01:17:816 (1) and 00:33:738 (3) - Sliderbody and slidertail tail nodes are off-grid at x-(-6) and y-(-1) - additionally the latter might overlap with some skinned score counters
- 00:40:035 (1,2,3) - Could potentially cause some confusion when reading, since (3) appears between (1,2) as the player moves between them. I'd move (3) to the left a little so it's completely clear for newer players
- 00:47:231 (1) - 00:50:829 (1) - Not really a fan of these sliderbody overlaps, they leave the player in doubt since the sliderpath is unclear. Remember you don't have an Easy diff in this set, so your Normal should be very accommodating for new players. A clearer shape with less overlap would be better, especially on the second one
- 00:59:825 (4,5) - Similar situation here, just looks like you ran out of room and tried to force in a pattern that requires this awkward overlap and flow-reversal. It would be better if (4) was moved up and curved a little more so that more of the sliderbody (5) is visible - something like 01:14:218 (4,5) is much more acceptable
- 01:04:772 (6,1,2) - Would be nice if these blankets were an even distance from (6), it currently looks a little strange, as (2)'s repeat/tail is also quite a bit closer to (6) than the head
- 01:23:663 (2,3,1) - Feels strange to have (3) mapping a weak sound on the head but a strong one on the tail, especially when that sound is identical to 01:25:012 (1) which is mapped as a circle. To give proper emphasis, it would be good to make (2) a slider extending to 01:24:338 - and then make the tail of (3) a circle stacked with 01:25:012 (1)
- 00:07:651 (1,2) - Strong vocal sound with whistle loses emphasis when mapped as an unclickable sliderend. Circle + 1/2 slider + circle would play better here
- 00:11:249 (1,2) - ^
- 00:20:919 (2,4) - Misaligned stack, bring (4) one pixel right and down to fix
- 00:40:709 (3,1) - ^ one pixel right
- 01:28:610 - In the Normal you had a 5% volume controlled green line here to mute the spinner end, but it's not present in this diff or the Insane. Please make them consistent either way
- 00:00:455 (2,3) - Similar rhythmical errors to the Hard diff, mapping the strong vocal sound at 00:01:129 - as a sliderend creates an artificial rhythm and wrong emphasis that don't play as well as they could if you followed the rhythm more closely. Similar issues at 00:04:053 (1,2) - 00:07:651 (1,2) - etc.
- 00:18:446 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket, (1) is curved much too tightly for a neat aesthetic here
- 00:53:753 (4,1) - Poorly aligned stack on head/tail, very noticeable during play
Mostly fine aside from a few sloppy aesthetics and odd rhythm placements, but those offscreen elements should really be fixed :/
I was modding this as it got qualified, just wish I could have been a little earlier but that's the way it goes I guess. Since I was modding normally I won't DQ until someone else has taken a look at it. Sorry for the inconvenience.
alright, seems the reasons are valid enough to me. will check them soon. Thanks for pointing Out JBH (:
edit : currently didnt fix the first point you've addresed. so expect the update soon. within 3 hours xd
edit2 : so mako sakata has told it, seems like they aren't a valid issue at all except the emphasis thing, i mostly consider stuff about emphasis since it affects object placement and patterns so it might hard to fix those stuff
edit : currently didnt fix the first point you've addresed. so expect the update soon. within 3 hours xd
edit2 : so mako sakata has told it, seems like they aren't a valid issue at all except the emphasis thing, i mostly consider stuff about emphasis since it affects object placement and patterns so it might hard to fix those stuff
Just dropping opinion,
About the bold one so far they are not off screen while played on 800x600 and touching skin element is not violate the rules since they are told in guidelines instead, also imperfect blanket and stacking stuffs is not a valid reason to dq a set imo. If you said the set still have room for improvement, at least please wait for creator respond first, he might have his own reason and disagree with your opinion. Beragumen dulu dong, so far bagus kok mapnya jangan ngalah gitu aja karena dia merah
Edit: adding stuffs
About the bold one so far they are not off screen while played on 800x600 and touching skin element is not violate the rules since they are told in guidelines instead, also imperfect blanket and stacking stuffs is not a valid reason to dq a set imo. If you said the set still have room for improvement, at least please wait for creator respond first, he might have his own reason and disagree with your opinion. Beragumen dulu dong, so far bagus kok mapnya jangan ngalah gitu aja karena dia merah
Edit: adding stuffs
I was trying to sync up the video with an online episode, and by the looks of it, your offset on the video should be around -575
(also holy crap FLV is not friendly for syncing videos lol)
(also holy crap FLV is not friendly for syncing videos lol)
i believe they aren't offscreen and we should be using the default skin as the judging standard
let's wait for creator's opinion about those JBH points out
well the video offset should be fixed yea
let's wait for creator's opinion about those JBH points out
well the video offset should be fixed yea
I don't think it can be count as a real problem since it is not off screen and it doesn't affect anything in gameplay, and overlapping with hp barand score counter blabla isn't even an issue, the whole screen is playfield and we shouldn't consider other things like those (including modes like HR) when mapping.JBHyperion wrote:
In Hard and Insane respectively:
- 01:17:816 (1) and 00:33:738 (3) - Sliderbody and slidertail tail nodes are off-grid at x-(-6) and y-(-1) - additionally the latter might overlap with some skinned score counters
as for those additional things, it's really my first time to see such a good blanket being considered as a poor blanket http://puu.sh/pGC8d/9da58954d2.jpg, most of your suggestions are 1 grid movement changes, they do improve the map but they don't make much sense.
about the video offset, this is a must-fix thing if it's really wrongly set.
@Del05: anyway poke me again after you address the mods and adjust the video offset \:D/
The mapper requested a dq
ty for your concernsJBHyperion wrote:
Haru's Insane
00:00:455 (2,3) - Similar rhythmical errors to the Hard diff, mapping the strong vocal sound at 00:01:129 - as a sliderend creates an artificial rhythm and wrong emphasis that don't play as well as they could if you followed the rhythm more closely. Similar issues at 00:04:053 (1,2) - 00:07:651 (1,2) - etc. only fixing the intro, seems like the others isn't a big issue at all so i'll leave them like that
00:18:446 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket, (1) is curved much too tightly for a neat aesthetic here agreed, fixed here
00:53:753 (4,1) - Poorly aligned stack on head/tail, very noticeable during playi dont know what do you mean. do you mean by, sloppy stack view or smth?oh i get it, i think you are pointing to imperfect stack or? really didnt get anything but somehow i fixed something here
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Topic Starter
Thank you jbhyperion for the suggestion
Thank you lanturn for the video offset too
All update and fixed some jbhyperion suggestion
Thank you lanturn for the video offset too
All update and fixed some jbhyperion suggestion
JBHyperion wrote:
Fulfilling my promiseorz this got qualified whilst I was checking
Additionally there is room for improvement elsewhere throughout the set:Normal
- 00:40:035 (1,2,3) - Could potentially cause some confusion when reading, since (3) appears between (1,2) as the player moves between them. I'd move (3) to the left a little so it's completely clear for newer players Fixed
- 00:47:231 (1) - 00:50:829 (1) - Not really a fan of these sliderbody overlaps, they leave the player in doubt since the sliderpath is unclear. Remember you don't have an Easy diff in this set, so your Normal should be very accommodating for new players. A clearer shape with less overlap would be better, especially on the second one Nope. i keep this. i have test it together with player who have low rank too. and there were no such problem with that slider and the time gap between this slider and the next object is enough for new player to see where the next objext is.
- 00:59:825 (4,5) - Similar situation here, just looks like you ran out of room and tried to force in a pattern that requires this awkward overlap and flow-reversal. It would be better if (4) was moved up and curved a little more so that more of the sliderbody (5) is visible - something like 01:14:218 (4,5) is much more acceptable I fixed it a little to show slider 5 body more. but i have to test it again xD and no such problem happen
- 01:04:772 (6,1,2) - Would be nice if these blankets were an even distance from (6), it currently looks a little strange, as (2)'s repeat/tail is also quite a bit closer to (6) than the head I think this one like now is fine, this one not affect gameplay so much i think
- 01:23:663 (2,3,1) - Feels strange to have (3) mapping a weak sound on the head but a strong one on the tail, especially when that sound is identical to 01:25:012 (1) which is mapped as a circle. To give proper emphasis, it would be good to make (2) a slider extending to 01:24:338 - and then make the tail of (3) a circle stacked with 01:25:012 (1) the head and the tail slider 3 map the same sound so i will keep this as slider 3 and circle 1, cause circle 1 is using clap sound instead of whistle sound (drum kick) like slider 3
Hard
- 00:07:651 (1,2) - Strong vocal sound with whistle loses emphasis when mapped as an unclickable sliderend. Circle + 1/2 slider + circle would play better here Fixed
- 00:11:249 (1,2) - ^ Fixed
- 00:20:919 (2,4) - Misaligned stack, bring (4) one pixel right and down to fix Fixed
- 00:40:709 (3,1) - ^ one pixel right Fixed, and i do it manually, it means i delete the slider 3 first then place the slider 1 with the exact coordinate for stacking it, because whenever i try to stacking, the editor automatically make it like that again
- 01:28:610 - In the Normal you had a 5% volume controlled green line here to mute the spinner end, but it's not present in this diff or the Insane. Please make them consistent either way Fixed
do you mind explaining what you did in a bit more detail, like haruto did?
Checked, we fix video offset and silightly improve the gameplay and all mods been replied appropriately
I leave the rest to karen, rebubbled!
I leave the rest to karen, rebubbled!
regrats!
Gratzzz!
Good
-[ AmiShici ]-
Topic Starter
Thank you kak XinelyXinely wrote:
congrats mapper mapper indo
Ray <3
Thanks youLanturn wrote:
regrats!
Thank you SotarksSotarks wrote:
Gratzzz!
Glad if it is goodNeoskylove wrote:
Good
Lol karena aku ngemap yg ini, dan aku mulai ngemap ini waktu blm ada ranked mapnya xD tp malah kesusul ama Mei xD-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:
Wadooo yang di rank malah yang ini. awkawkawk
but Gratz btw 'w')b
Love ray <3