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Kantan
00:02:364 (3) -
00:04:008 (6) - remove I feel like your mapping to lyrics? not sure but while mapping to rhythm these aren't in the song


00:06:063 (10) - d sounds lower


00:07:296 (12) - remove Mapping to rhythm again. Mapping to the gutiar while there is a clear drum pattern going on doesn't seem right to me. Try to applie these changes for the rest of the map


00:30:721 (48) - K The vocals sound really strong here


00:31:132 (49) - remove Just another example when you are mapping to lyrics which doesn't sound good imo.


00:45:926 (74,75) - k d Not as strong as the other notes.


01:08:529 (112,113) - remove this would be a good place for a break for the new players. Also these aren't the most important notes in the song.


01:21:063 - you could add d here 1/2 beat snap divisor


01:24:145 (140,141) - these should be d sounds the same as 01:23:323 (139) -

Overall I think your over mapping way to much for slow song. I was going to map other diff but it seems to be the same general issues. Also its 73 bpm and I mod don't map under 130 bpm. I'm not trying to stop from mapping this song if you really like it but I don't this really fits into the taiko game mod. Maybe try the op of Mayoiga? Either way I think you should try harder to map to the rhythm and read some taiko mapping guides.

Good luck :)
Stefan
Man, I am really sorry for being that late.

[Oni]
00:09:145 - What about a k note here? it fits well with the vocals and currently the flow feels somewhat weird here.
00:10:584 (33,35) - Swap hitsounds to fit better with the song.
00:16:953 (55) - I'd prefer the transistion to 00:16:748 (54,56) - than having a note in-between. Move (55) to 00:17:364 - which sounds by far better imo.
00:17:981 (58,59) - I honestly don't really understand the usage of k's here, It's good to use it for the guitar riff on 00:18:392 (60) - and 00:18:803 (62) - for the vocals/good rhythm usage, make (58,59) as d d.
00:20:241 (67,68) - sounds much cooler if you switch their hitsounds, with 00:19:214 (63,64,65) - before the dkd kdk sound is really cool to play and sound-wise.
00:21:268 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - This part could be a bit changed by improving your idea of 1/2 k notes: http://puu.sh/oR02S/2244c35668.jpg
00:30:926 (105) - Sounds more about to play k k d on 00:31:132 - , move (105) to 00:31:337 - .
00:33:597 (114) - I'd go with this note to 00:33:392 - and change as d then, it's sound-wise more interesting.
00:36:885 - 00:39:762 - Honestly said, I don't find this section very well emphasized, the triplets works really awkward with the music and a lot of potential gets lost, I've tried that and that's pretty good imo: http://puu.sh/oR0Ke/4d7ff35b3b.jpg
00:44:077 (167) - kdk doesn't fits here well, try kdd instead.
00:44:796 (171) - Also here, you either could make this as kdd or remove the 1/4 here completely, both sounds okay.
00:49:008 (180,181) - Basically I don't mind to have a triplet quite fast after the downbeat but it really doesn't sounds good in this song, you should leave some space here and remove (180,181).
00:50:652 (190) - I'd rather leave this empty, 00:50:447 (189) - has a better impact imo then.
00:51:166 (193) - I think ddk works better here, the guitar riff doesn't suits for unusual things such as dkk or kkd.
00:51:885 (196) - Rather go with ddk instead of kdk.
01:00:310 (241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249) - That's not good. It sounds and plays really really forced and not how the song sounds like. You don't need to put stream patterns if the song doesn't offers it.

Personally said I had huge doubts about the dense of the map and the usage of triplets and even stream pattern for this song. Yes, some parts could make use of triplets but that's like as many you can count up on your hand. Also what I've noticed is the weird flow the map has for the most time. I see you're mainly following the guitar riffs and the background music, yet the vocals could also be mapped more without losing the focus on the background music.

[Muzukashii - Futsuu - Kantan]
So Muzukashii - Futsuu provides the biggest problems in the mapset. The biggest one is the similarity of these two difficulties which are to 70% at least the same. The simpliest thing would be to nerf the Futsuu Difficulty for a lot since making Muzukashii harder is pretty pointless. I made thoughts about the mapset how you could've designed it well and came to this conclusion:

  1. Muzukashii should be a nerfed version of the Oni which consist lesser note density and no Triplets - yes, that might be hard if you look how many triplets you used in Oni but like said, you don't need so many Triplets in that case. Lesser is more.
  2. Futsuu should have a even lesser note density and provide more breaks. (1/1 in that case) it ensures a newer player doesn't gets tired up playing your map and have a more comfortable game experience.
  3. I didn't pointed out about Kantan but general said, you should design this Difficulty as some kind of Tutorial level - because most players even if they're new skip Kantan Difficulties being too easy at all. But for these which are getting beaten up by the Futsuu level they have the Kantan Level which teachs them simple rhythm, enough rest time and preferably to only make use of k notes when it fits to 100%. I've checked the Kantan Difficulty before and it doesn't really suits to the things above I said.
If you follow the suggestion to re-do futsuu and to reduce the density in all difficulties I'd gladly come back and mod your map again just to give a proper mod to your mapset. Oh and yes, I also believe 73 BPM is rather correct than 146, it really doesn't feel like a 146 BPM track.
Topic Starter
Aloda

Stefan wrote:

Man, I am really sorry for being that late. No worries

[Oni]
00:09:145 - What about a k note here? it fits well with the vocals and currently the flow feels somewhat weird here. Okay
00:10:584 (33,35) - Swap hitsounds to fit better with the song. Sure
00:16:953 (55) - I'd prefer the transistion to 00:16:748 (54,56) - than having a note in-between. Move (55) to 00:17:364 - which sounds by far better imo. Sounds good
00:17:981 (58,59) - I honestly don't really understand the usage of k's here, It's good to use it for the guitar riff on 00:18:392 (60) - and 00:18:803 (62) - for the vocals/good rhythm usage, make (58,59) as d d. Okay. I think it might actually sound better if I remove 00:18:186 (59) too
00:20:241 (67,68) - sounds much cooler if you switch their hitsounds, with 00:19:214 (63,64,65) - before the dkd kdk sound is really cool to play and sound-wise. Sure
00:21:268 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - This part could be a bit changed by improving your idea of 1/2 k notes: http://puu.sh/oR02S/2244c35668.jpg Sounds good
00:30:926 (105) - Sounds more about to play k k d on 00:31:132 - , move (105) to 00:31:337 - . Agreed
00:33:597 (114) - I'd go with this note to 00:33:392 - and change as d then, it's sound-wise more interesting. This feels pretty awkard to me
00:36:885 - 00:39:762 - Honestly said, I don't find this section very well emphasized, the triplets works really awkward with the music and a lot of potential gets lost, I've tried that and that's pretty good imo: http://puu.sh/oR0Ke/4d7ff35b3b.jpg Changed to something different based on your suggestion
00:44:077 (167) - kdk doesn't fits here well, try kdd instead. Okay
00:44:796 (171) - Also here, you either could make this as kdd or remove the 1/4 here completely, both sounds okay. Removed the 1/4
00:49:008 (180,181) - Basically I don't mind to have a triplet quite fast after the downbeat but it really doesn't sounds good in this song, you should leave some space here and remove (180,181). Makes sense, removed
00:50:652 (190) - I'd rather leave this empty, 00:50:447 (189) - has a better impact imo then.
00:51:166 (193) - I think ddk works better here, the guitar riff doesn't suits for unusual things such as dkk or kkd. Sure
00:51:885 (196) - Rather go with ddk instead of kdk. Okay
01:00:310 (241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249) - That's not good. It sounds and plays really really forced and not how the song sounds like. You don't need to put stream patterns if the song doesn't offers it. Honestly, whenever I've played the map, this stream feels natural and intuitive. I'll ask some other people about it, but I really think it's fine.

Personally said I had huge doubts about the dense of the map and the usage of triplets and even stream pattern for this song. Yes, some parts could make use of triplets but that's like as many you can count up on your hand. Also what I've noticed is the weird flow the map has for the most time. I see you're mainly following the guitar riffs and the background music, yet the vocals could also be mapped more without losing the focus on the background music. Looking at it now, I can agree that it is a little too dense. I'll have a look and see what I can change. Also, I really don't like mapping to the vocals. It just feels very awkward to me.

[Muzukashii - Futsuu - Kantan]
So Muzukashii - Futsuu provides the biggest problems in the mapset. The biggest one is the similarity of these two difficulties which are to 70% at least the same. The simpliest thing would be to nerf the Futsuu Difficulty for a lot since making Muzukashii harder is pretty pointless. I made thoughts about the mapset how you could've designed it well and came to this conclusion:

  1. Muzukashii should be a nerfed version of the Oni which consist lesser note density and no Triplets - yes, that might be hard if you look how many triplets you used in Oni but like said, you don't need so many Triplets in that case. Lesser is more.
  2. Futsuu should have a even lesser note density and provide more breaks. (1/1 in that case) it ensures a newer player doesn't gets tired up playing your map and have a more comfortable game experience.
  3. I didn't pointed out about Kantan but general said, you should design this Difficulty as some kind of Tutorial level - because most players even if they're new skip Kantan Difficulties being too easy at all. But for these which are getting beaten up by the Futsuu level they have the Kantan Level which teachs them simple rhythm, enough rest time and preferably to only make use of k notes when it fits to 100%. I've checked the Kantan Difficulty before and it doesn't really suits to the things above I said.
I've nerfed the Futsuu and made it more consistent with the Muzu. I haven't changed the Muzu yet, but I'll look into it.

If you follow the suggestion to re-do futsuu and to reduce the density in all difficulties I'd gladly come back and mod your map again just to give a proper mod to your mapset. Oh and yes, I also believe 73 BPM is rather correct than 146, it really doesn't feel like a 146 BPM track.
Thank you!
Topic Starter
Aloda
Note densities in Muzu and Oni have been lowered slightly (although I should probably lower it a bit more) :o
kogasa_old_1
hiya! here from my modding queue.

[General]
  1. i have to agree that the bpm is definitely doubled. the bpm should be 73, not 146. :?
  2. theres a lot of triplets in the oni difficulty that just dont fit the song, especially since its very quiet and calm. it feels very overmapped at some parts.

[ Kantan]
  1. 00:04:419 (6) - k
  2. 00:05:241 (7) - ^
  3. 00:05:652 (8) - d
  4. 00:17:570 (26) - k
  5. 00:17:570 (26) - ^
  6. 00:52:090 (81,82,83) - kdk
  7. 00:54:145 (85) - d

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:05:652 (10) - kkd
  2. 00:17:364 (38) - k
    00:24:967 (55) - ^
  3. 00:26:611 (58,59,60) - kdk
  4. 00:28:255 (61) - k
  5. 00:31:542 (67) - k
  6. 00:37:707 (78) - d
  7. 00:45:104 (94) - remove, too busy for futsuu, and feels a bit unnecessary. without it, it puts more emphasis on the beat of the song and 00:45:515 (94,95,96,97) - feels more empactful.
  8. oh holy shit things way too dense for a futsuu at the kiai
  9. 00:50:241 (104) - remove
  10. 00:50:447 (105) - d
  11. 00:50:858 (106,107) - remove, adds break
  12. 00:52:296 (111) - remove (this also subtly puts more emphasis on the "saaaa")
  13. 00:53:323 (114,115) - remove
  14. 00:54:351 (118) - remove
  15. 00:56:611 (125) - k
  16. 00:57:022 (126) - d
  17. 00:57:638 (128) - remove
  18. 00:59:077 (132) - remove (subtly adds emphasis on 00:59:488 (133) as well)
  19. 01:01:542 (138) - d
  20. 01:01:748 (139) - remove, unnecessary and too long of a pattern

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:05:241 (11,12,13) - kkd
  2. 00:09:351 (24) - d
  3. 00:09:762 (25) - ^
  4. 00:10:584 (28,29,30) - kkd
  5. 00:11:816 (32,33,34) - ^
  6. 00:15:926 (44) - d
  7. 00:16:748 (45) - k
  8. 00:20:036 (55) - ^
  9. 00:21:679 (60) - ^ (lands on a snare)
  10. 00:23:529 (67) - remove, putting more emphasis on 00:23:323 (66)
  11. 00:28:255 (79) - k
  12. 00:29:693 (85) - ^
  13. 00:30:721 (88,89,90) - kdd
  14. 00:31:542 (91) - k
  15. 00:31:953 (92,93,94) - kdd
  16. 00:33:187 (96) - k
  17. 00:34:008 (100) - d
  18. 00:36:372 (108) - i really dont hear anything in the song suggesting this be here...
  19. 00:37:707 (113) - d (also subtly adds emphasis on 00:38:118 (114) )
  20. 00:53:631 (162) - again, i dont really hear anything suggesting this be here...
  21. 01:00:207 (188) - ^^^
  22. 01:01:028 (192) - ^^^^^
  23. 01:04:008 (205,206,207) - kdk
  24. 01:08:734 - add d
  25. 01:10:173 (226,227,228,229,230) - kkddk
  26. 01:11:816 (232,233,234,235,236) - ^^^
  27. 01:16:748 (251,252,253,254,255) - ^^^
  28. 01:19:008 (260) - d
  29. 01:19:625 (262) - ^
  30. 01:20:858 (267) - k
  31. 01:20:036 (263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271) - i think this fits the drums better, but if youre trying to map the vocals then feel free to ignore this suggestion!

[ Oni]
  1. 00:23:734 (80,81,82) - ddk
  2. 00:24:556 (83,84,85) - ^^^
  3. 00:25:584 - add d
  4. 00:25:995 (89) - ^
  5. 00:29:899 (105) - k
  6. 00:34:830 (123) - ^
  7. 00:35:036 (124,125) - d
  8. 00:36:474 (131) - k
  9. 00:37:707 (135) - d
  10. 00:52:707 (194,195,196) - ddk (the kat placement here just doesnt make sense...)
  11. 00:55:173 (204,205,206) - ^^^
  12. 00:56:200 (210) - k
  13. 00:56:611 (212) - d
  14. 00:58:974 (224) - ^
  15. 00:59:282 (226) - ^ the kat placement still doesnt make sense, but like this i feel it puts more emphasis on that next kat
  16. 01:00:104 (230) - ^
  17. 01:02:159 (243,244,245) - 01:02:981 (248,249,250) - i honestly do not think these triplets are necessary/fitting at all, especially with the kdk patterns.
  18. 01:05:241 (259,260,261) - ^^^
  19. 01:08:323 (269,270,271) - kkd
  20. 01:11:303 (283) - remove
  21. 01:12:125 (288) - ^
  22. 01:13:358 (294) - ^
  23. 01:15:207 (306) - ^
  24. 01:17:673 (319) - ^

of course, these are all mostly just suggestions, so...

i'm sorry if i couldn't be of much help x_x

good luck with your mapset!
Topic Starter
Aloda

kogasa wrote:

hiya! here from my modding queue.

[General]
  1. i have to agree that the bpm is definitely doubled. the bpm should be 73, not 146. :?
  2. theres a lot of triplets in the oni difficulty that just dont fit the song, especially since its very quiet and calm. it feels very overmapped at some parts.

[ Kantan]
  1. 00:04:419 (6) - k Sure
  2. 00:05:241 (7) - ^ Disagree
  3. 00:05:652 (8) - d Okay
  4. 00:17:570 (26) - k Done
  5. 00:17:570 (26) - ^
  6. 00:52:090 (81,82,83) - kdk Disagree
  7. 00:54:145 (85) - d Sure

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:05:652 (10) - kkd Sounds good
  2. 00:17:364 (38) - k Changed 00:17:570 (39) instead
    00:24:967 (55) - ^ Disagree
  3. 00:26:611 (58,59,60) - kdk Sure
  4. 00:28:255 (61) - k Disagree
  5. 00:31:542 (67) - k Okay
  6. 00:37:707 (78) - d Done
  7. 00:45:104 (94) - remove, too busy for futsuu, and feels a bit unnecessary. without it, it puts more emphasis on the beat of the song and 00:45:515 (94,95,96,97) - feels more empactful. I can agree with this
  8. oh holy shit things way too dense for a futsuu at the kiai
  9. 00:50:241 (104) - remove Disagree
  10. 00:50:447 (105) - d Okay
  11. 00:50:858 (106,107) - remove, adds break Removed 00:50:858 (105,106) instead
  12. 00:52:296 (111) - remove (this also subtly puts more emphasis on the "saaaa") Moved to 00:51:885 instead
  13. 00:53:323 (114,115) - remove
  14. 00:54:351 (118) - remove
  15. 00:56:611 (125) - k Done
  16. 00:57:022 (126) - d Done
  17. 00:57:638 (128) - remove Disagree
  18. 00:59:077 (132) - remove (subtly adds emphasis on 00:59:488 (133) as well) Sounds good
  19. 01:01:542 (138) - d Disagree
  20. 01:01:748 (139) - remove, unnecessary and too long of a pattern Sure

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:05:241 (11,12,13) - kkd Changed
  2. 00:09:351 (24) - d Okay
  3. 00:09:762 (25) - ^ Disagree
  4. 00:10:584 (28,29,30) - kkd Sure
  5. 00:11:816 (32,33,34) - ^ Ended up just removing 33
  6. 00:15:926 (44) - d Okay
  7. 00:16:748 (45) - k Sure
  8. 00:20:036 (55) - ^ Sure
  9. 00:21:679 (60) - ^ (lands on a snare) Okay
  10. 00:23:529 (67) - remove, putting more emphasis on 00:23:323 (66) Removed
  11. 00:28:255 (79) - k Changed
  12. 00:29:693 (85) - ^ No
  13. 00:30:721 (88,89,90) - kdd Agree
  14. 00:31:542 (91) - k Okay
  15. 00:31:953 (92,93,94) - kdd I guess
  16. 00:33:187 (96) - k Disagree
  17. 00:34:008 (100) - d ^
  18. 00:36:372 (108) - i really dont hear anything in the song suggesting this be here... I agree
  19. 00:37:707 (113) - d (also subtly adds emphasis on 00:38:118 (114) ) Sure
  20. 00:53:631 (162) - again, i dont really hear anything suggesting this be here... Agree
  21. 01:00:207 (188) - ^^^ ^
  22. 01:01:028 (192) - ^^^^^ I guess
  23. 01:04:008 (205,206,207) - kdk Disagree
  24. 01:08:734 - add d Okay
  25. 01:10:173 (226,227,228,229,230) - kkddk
  26. 01:11:816 (232,233,234,235,236) - ^^^
  27. 01:16:748 (251,252,253,254,255) - ^^^
  28. 01:19:008 (260) - d Okay
  29. 01:19:625 (262) - ^ ^
  30. 01:20:858 (267) - k ^
  31. 01:20:036 (263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271) - i think this fits the drums better, but if youre trying to map the vocals then feel free to ignore this suggestion!

[ Oni]
  1. 00:23:734 (80,81,82) - ddk Agree
  2. 00:24:556 (83,84,85) - ^^^ ^
  3. 00:25:584 - add d Okay
  4. 00:25:995 (89) - ^ Disagree
  5. 00:29:899 (105) - k Sounds good
  6. 00:34:830 (123) - ^ Sure
  7. 00:35:036 (124,125) - d Disagree
  8. 00:36:474 (131) - k Sure
  9. 00:37:707 (135) - d Okay
  10. 00:52:707 (194,195,196) - ddk (the kat placement here just doesnt make sense...) Ended up removing 195
  11. 00:55:173 (204,205,206) - ^^^ Agree
  12. 00:56:200 (210) - k Okay
  13. 00:56:611 (212) - d Done
  14. 00:58:974 (224) - ^ Sure
  15. 00:59:282 (226) - ^ the kat placement still doesnt make sense, but like this i feel it puts more emphasis on that next kat Disagree
  16. 01:00:104 (230) - ^
  17. 01:02:159 (243,244,245) - 01:02:981 (248,249,250) - i honestly do not think these triplets are necessary/fitting at all, especially with the kdk patterns. Removed 249
  18. 01:05:241 (259,260,261) - ^^^ Agree
  19. 01:08:323 (269,270,271) - kkd Disagree
  20. 01:11:303 (283) - remove Okay
  21. 01:12:125 (288) - ^ Disagree
  22. 01:13:358 (294) - ^ Okay
  23. 01:15:207 (306) - ^ Sure
  24. 01:17:673 (319) - ^ Disagree

of course, these are all mostly just suggestions, so...

i'm sorry if i couldn't be of much help x_x

good luck with your mapset!
Thank you! :)
Kankri
From my queue ~ \o/

:idea: these are suggestions, it's fine if you don't want to change some of them :)

[Kantan]

Looks good!

[Futsuu]

00:07:707 (16) - kat

01:18:392 (162,163,164,165) - maybe try changing this? i don't think it sounds good :o

[Muzukashii]

Looks good!

[Oni]

Looks good!

Good luck!

Sorry if this mod wasn't helpfull, I tried since this map was short.
Topic Starter
Aloda

Kasha wrote:

From my queue ~ \o/

:idea: these are suggestions, it's fine if you don't want to change some of them :)

[Kantan]

Looks good!

[Futsuu]

00:07:707 (16) - kat I have this as a don to match the lower vocal pitch, although a kat also sounds fine. I'm going to keep it as is for now though.

01:18:392 (162,163,164,165) - maybe try changing this? i don't think it sounds good :o I've added a k at 01:17:981 . I think it fits in a little better now

[Muzukashii]

Looks good!

[Oni]

Looks good!

Good luck! Thanks!

Sorry if this mod wasn't helpfull, I tried since this map was short.
Thanks a lot! Even a short mod can be very helpful :)
Topic Starter
Aloda
Reduced note density in the kantan, muzu and oni, particularly during the kiai. I've also halved the bpm to 73, but increased the SV to compensate. Hopefully it will play a bit better now :)
Jaye
[General]
  1. Pls go easy on my shit mod. 'Tis my first after all.
  2. d = don, k = kat, caps on both for a finisher; you know the drill.

[ Kantan]
  1. 00:22:501 (25) - change to k, the instrument sound is the exact same as that at 00:23:323 (26).
  2. 00:27:433 (29,30,31) - ctrl+g, sounds better as dkk ( following the guitar ).
  3. 00:34:008 (35) - change to d, sounds almost identical to 00:34:830 (36). It'll also remove some repetition as you have kdk another two times after this.
  4. 01:06:885 (77) - change to K, high pitched singing ( too powerful for instruments D: )
  5. 01:08:529 - perhaps add d if you're going to keep d at 01:07:707 (78) and 01:09:351 (71); if you think this is a bit dense you could always remove the notes at the two timing points I just suggested.

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:22:501 (49) and 00:23:323 (52) - assuming you applied the changes in Kantan, both of these should be k.
  2. 00:24:145 (54) - could change to d, it's like this in the Kantan. The note works fine either way.
  3. 00:36:885 (76) - change to k, sounds a little stale to me as a d ( then again I'm half-deaf ).
  4. 00:41:816 (88) - change to k. Works fine either way though.
  5. 00:50:447 (103) - change to k, sounds higher. This is different to Kantan but then again your note at 00:49:625 (101) is also different to Kantan and sounds fine.
  6. 01:06:885 (142) - same as Kantan, see above comment.
  7. 01:07:707 (143,144,145) - unsure how these became k, they all seem low pitch.
  8. 01:10:173 (146) - change to k, same as Kantan plus high pitch singing.

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:29:282 (76) - change to k, you can hear the guitar make a higher pitch noise.
  2. 01:13:666 (218) - change to d, you have a k there but the higher pitch singing hasn't start yet ( also rip pp farm ).
  3. Not much else to say really ._.

[ Oni]
  1. 00:17:364 (57) - change to k, it's a held note but this section actually sounds higher than the note before it.
  2. 00:44:488 (163,164) - ctrl+g, makes more sense if you consider the sounds comparison of each note from 163-166.
  3. 00:59:899 (223) - change to k, consider the sound from 222-224.

Good luck with everything; I hope my modding was up to standards.
Topic Starter
Aloda

dajayeway wrote:

[General]
  1. Pls go easy on my shit mod. 'Tis my first after all.
  2. d = don, k = kat, caps on both for a finisher; you know the drill.

[ Kantan]
  1. 00:22:501 (25) - change to k, the instrument sound is the exact same as that at 00:23:323 (26). I prefer changing 00:23:323 (26) to a d
  2. 00:27:433 (29,30,31) - ctrl+g, sounds better as dkk ( following the guitar ). How about d k d?
  3. 00:34:008 (35) - change to d, sounds almost identical to 00:34:830 (36). It'll also remove some repetition as you have kdk another two times after this. I have it as k d k to match the vocal pitch. I've changed 00:40:584 (41,42,43) to avoid the repetition
  4. 01:06:885 (77) - change to K, high pitched singing ( too powerful for instruments D: ) Agreed
  5. 01:08:529 - perhaps add d if you're going to keep d at 01:07:707 (78) and 01:09:351 (71); if you think this is a bit dense you could always remove the notes at the two timing points I just suggested. Sounds good. Removed 01:07:707 (78) and added a k at 01:08:529 (see Futsuu for reasoning)

[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:22:501 (49) and 00:23:323 (52) - assuming you applied the changes in Kantan, both of these should be k. Didn't change the Kantan so no change here
  2. 00:24:145 (54) - could change to d, it's like this in the Kantan. The note works fine either way. Changed
  3. 00:36:885 (76) - change to k, sounds a little stale to me as a d ( then again I'm half-deaf ). I prefer this as is. It's also a d in the Muzu.
  4. 00:41:816 (88) - change to k. Works fine either way though. Changed
  5. 00:50:447 (103) - change to k, sounds higher. This is different to Kantan but then again your note at 00:49:625 (101) is also different to Kantan and sounds fine. Sounds good, changed
  6. 01:06:885 (142) - same as Kantan, see above comment. Changed
  7. 01:07:707 (143,144,145) - unsure how these became k, they all seem low pitch. Although they are low pitch, I think k matches the soft sound better, particularly with the soft sampleset. Also these are kats in Muzu and Oni too
  8. 01:10:173 (146) - change to k, same as Kantan plus high pitch singing. Disagree. Also I changed this to a d in Kantan

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:29:282 (76) - change to k, you can hear the guitar make a higher pitch noise. Sure, changed
  2. 01:13:666 (218) - change to d, you have a k there but the higher pitch singing hasn't start yet ( also rip pp farm ). Changed
  3. Not much else to say really ._. .-.

[ Oni]
  1. 00:17:364 (57) - change to k, it's a held note but this section actually sounds higher than the note before it. Changed
  2. 00:44:488 (163,164) - ctrl+g, makes more sense if you consider the sounds comparison of each note from 163-166. Agreed, changed
  3. 00:59:899 (223) - change to k, consider the sound from 222-224. Sure

Good luck with everything; I hope my modding was up to standards. Thanks :)
Cool mod, thanks a bunch :D
jukkaduei
JUKKADUEI


From NM request

Your beatmap is already good. But this is a little to change.
Kantan
00:01:953 (2,3) - ctrl + g
00:03:597 (5,6) - ctrl + g
00:08:529 (10) - Change to k
Futsuu
01:18:392 (163) - Change to d
01:20:036 (168) - Change to k
Muzukashii
01:06:062 (191) - Change to d
Oni
01:02:981 (241,242) - Change to d

Good luck with your beatmap.
Topic Starter
Aloda

jukkaduei wrote:

JUKKADUEI


From NM request

Your beatmap is already good. But this is a little to change.
Kantan
00:01:953 (2,3) - ctrl + g Sure, I'll give this a go
00:03:597 (5,6) - ctrl + g I think I prefer this as is
00:08:529 (10) - Change to k Changed
Futsuu
01:18:392 (163) - Change to d Sounds good, changed
01:20:036 (168) - Change to k Sure, changed
Muzukashii
01:06:062 (191) - Change to d I prefer this as a k
Oni
01:02:981 (241,242) - Change to d Yeah, this is a little stale, changed 241, but left 242 as a k

Good luck with your beatmap.
Thanks a lot :)
[Pw]Forgotten
Here's my mod :D

Kantan:
00:09:351 (11,12,13) - I think d d k is not bad in here
00:30:721 (32) - Maybe here can change to big k
00:50:447 (53,54,55) - it can exchange with 00:53:734 (58,59,60) -
01:20:036 (94,95,96) - maybe here can change to a slider
01:22:501 (96) - you can try to delete this note

Futsuu:
00:05:652 (10,11,12) - you can change kkd to kd_
00:11:405 (22,23,24) - kkd to _kd
00:13:666 (29) - and 00:17:364 (38) - Delete it
00:19:214 (42,43,44) - kdd to kd_
00:22:912 (50,51) - delete 51 and 50 can be k
00:36:885 (76) - I think k is better
00:38:529 (80,81,82,83,84) - change d k k d
00:48:803 (98,99,100,101) - Maybe it can be k ddd
00:55:789 (115,116,117) - change to kd_
00:57:433 (120,121,122) - same
01:00:721 (127,128,129,130) - I think d kkk it better in here
01:04:214 (136) - you can delete this
01:16:748 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173) - maybe you can try this

01:25:789 (177,178,179) - change to kd_
Muzu:
Well!

oni:
Sry I'm not good at this type of oni, so i cant have you




Keep fighting Aloda san~
Topic Starter
Aloda

[Pw]Forgotten wrote:

Here's my mod :D

Kantan:
00:09:351 (11,12,13) - I think d d k is not bad in here Agreed
00:30:721 (32) - Maybe here can change to big k
00:50:447 (53,54,55) - it can exchange with 00:53:734 (58,59,60) - Changed to something slightly different based on your suggestion
01:20:036 (94,95,96) - maybe here can change to a slider I don't think that would fit well
01:22:501 (96) - you can try to delete this note Sure

Futsuu:
00:05:652 (10,11,12) - you can change kkd to kd_ I don't think this fits well since I'm not really trying to map to the vocals
00:11:405 (22,23,24) - kkd to _kd Sounds good
00:13:666 (29) - and 00:17:364 (38) - Delete it Yeah, I was really worried about the note density on this diff. Removed
00:19:214 (42,43,44) - kdd to kd_ I prefer removing 43
00:22:912 (50,51) - delete 51 and 50 can be k Removed 51, but I think 50 fits better as d
00:36:885 (76) - I think k is better Moved to 00:36:474 instead
00:38:529 (80,81,82,83,84) - change d k k d Sounds good to me
00:48:803 (98,99,100,101) - Maybe it can be k ddd Changed to d dkd
00:55:789 (115,116,117) - change to kd_ Removed 116 instead
00:57:433 (120,121,122) - same Removed 121 instead
01:00:721 (127,128,129,130) - I think d kkk it better in here I think this sounds better as is
01:04:214 (136) - you can delete this I've changed the structure of this whole section to be more consistent with 00:48:803 - 00:53:734
01:16:748 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173) - maybe you can try this I like this as it is. I don't want to change it to match the vocals

01:25:789 (177,178,179) - change to kd_ Removed 178 instead
Muzu:
Well!

oni:
Sry I'm not good at this type of oni, so i cant have you




Keep fighting Aloda san~
Thanks for your mod :) I plan to get yours done some time tomorrow :D
Mihaugoku
Sorry, if the mod is bad, but it's my second one ever. I tried at least.
Also it's for the M4M request in your queue.

[Kantan]
Looks good in my opinion, i don't know much about Kantan though.

[Futsuu]
00:13:049 - I would add a d here, and remove 00:14:693 (27)
00:26:200 (50) - i would also add a d here
00:33:186 - for me it feels like something is missing here
01:08:940 - d maybe?

[Muzukashii]
01:20:036 (241,242,243,244,245) - i'm not sure about this, suggesting kddkk

[Oni]
00:58:255 (205) - suggesting a k here
01:13:460 (270) - would change this to d



Hope my mod will help you!
Wish you a good day!
Topic Starter
Aloda

Mihaugoku wrote:

Sorry, if the mod is bad, but it's my second one ever. I tried at least.
Also it's for the M4M request in your queue.

[Kantan]
Looks good in my opinion, i don't know much about Kantan though.

[Futsuu]
00:13:049 - I would add a d here, and remove 00:14:693 (27) Sounds good. Done.
00:26:200 (50) - i would also add a d here Sure, added.
00:33:186 - for me it feels like something is missing here Moved 00:32:775 (62) to there
01:08:940 - d maybe? Sure, added.

[Muzukashii]
01:20:036 (241,242,243,244,245) - i'm not sure about this, suggesting kddkk Sounds just as good as what I had. Changed.

[Oni]
00:58:255 (205) - suggesting a k here Changed
01:13:460 (270) - would change this to d And changed



Hope my mod will help you!
Wish you a good day!
Thanks a lot for your mod, I'll get yours done as soon as I can :)
[R]
yo
this the lowest bpm i meet after this
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/777231

[Kantan]
00:46:337 - delete this to give emphasize 00:46:748 -

[Futsuu]
00:07:296 - delete, there is too much pattern xxx
00:13:871 - delete, seeing kantan have huge space here
00:17:159 - delete, drum sound good to hear with ddk
00:18:803 - delete, same thing ^
00:25:378 - delete and move 00:26:611 - to 00:26:200 - following the piano
00:27:022 - refer mod above, you can consider delete to give emphasize
00:38:529 - delete ?
00:41:816 - delete ?
00:46:337 - same thing in kantan, since the next note are finisher

[Muzukashii]
00:23:323 (61,62,63) - invert this ? match with vocal sound

That's all from me
Topic Starter
Aloda

[R] wrote:

yo
this the lowest bpm i meet after this
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/777231

[Kantan]
00:46:337 - delete this to give emphasize 00:46:748 - Sounds good

[Futsuu]
00:07:296 - delete, there is too much pattern xxx Agreed
00:13:871 - delete, seeing kantan have huge space here ^
00:17:159 - delete, drum sound good to hear with ddk ^
00:18:803 - delete, same thing ^ ^
00:25:378 - delete and move 00:26:611 - to 00:26:200 - following the piano This sounds a little strange to me, but I'll give it a go anyway
00:27:022 - refer mod above, you can consider delete to give emphasize I think this needs a d at 00:27:844 to work
00:38:529 - delete ? Agree
00:41:816 - delete ? ^
00:46:337 - same thing in kantan, since the next note are finisher Sure

[Muzukashii]
00:23:323 (61,62,63) - invert this ? match with vocal sound Sure

That's all from me
Thanks a lot for your mod :)
Topic Starter
Aloda
Made some pretty significant changes to note densities in all diffs and reduced SV to 1.6.
numbermaniac

Aloda wrote:

Made some pretty significant changes to note densities in all diffs and reduced SV to 1.6.
That was a massive drop in star rating!

Oh god it moves so slowly now

finally an oni i can play
_kumakichi
hi,
the maps are cool
basically i feel no need to change anything
all the changes below are purely me being picky

muzu
01:08:677 - add d?
01:15:664 - add k? it appears more natural...
01:25:938 - add d? as in oni

oni
wouldn't this oni be too simple? I think there is still room for sth like an inner one
01:15:664 - add k? as in muzu

great map. good luck.
Topic Starter
Aloda

_kumakichi wrote:

hi,
the maps are cool
basically i feel no need to change anything
all the changes below are purely me being picky

muzu
01:08:677 - add d? I want to stay consistent with the Oni here. My idea here was to basically copy the Oni but remove the note at 01:08:369 to change the 1/8 triplet into a 1/4 double. I think it fits well as it is, but I'm open to changing it if more people agree with your suggestion. No change for now.
01:15:664 - add k? it appears more natural... Sounds good. Added!
01:25:938 - add d? as in oni Added.

oni
wouldn't this oni be too simple? I think there is still room for sth like an inner one This diff used to be a lot harder, but a lot of people told me that it felt strange to have a hard difficulty for a slow and calm map like this. I really like the relaxing mood it sets like it is, and I don't think it would be possible to preserve that mood in an Inner Oni
01:15:664 - add k? as in muzu Sure. Added.

great map. good luck. Thanks :)
Thanks a lot for your mod!
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