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Meyrink

Joined February 2014

Meyrink 2016-05-29T19:23:46+00:00

ByBy13 wrote:
[Meyrink's Insane]
00:10:125(2,3,4)- I don't like how you structured the rhythm here because it does not follow the vocals and the instruments properly.For this kind of vocals and instruments, would be much better to start with a note rather than a slider so (2)- can be a note and (3)- and (4)- can be 1/2 sliders so you will follow the vocals and the instruments more properly in my point of view http://puu.sh/p9dmy/d26a100b57.jpg Fixed
00:19:802(7)- This note is overlapping with 00:19:157(2,3,4)- which looks quite untidy.Move (7)- to 250|291 for exaple to avoid the unpleasant overlap Fixed
00:45:931(2,3,4,5)- Why don't you make a jump between these triplets and the note?Because on (5)- the beat is strong and it needs some emphasis in my opinion.A jump would make more sense rather than an antijump which does not make any sense to the stronger beat i really like that pattern the way it is cuz it gives a realy nice emphasis for 00:46:577 (7) - while playing

Thanks for mod =w=

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Asphyxia

osu! Alumni

1,986 posts

Joined June 2012

Asphyxia 2016-05-30T10:10:18+00:00

Irc

12:47 *Asphyxia is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/984019 Porno Graffitti - THE DAY [Plus Ultra]]
12:48 Asphyxia: 00:18:996 (2) - aika kakka kurvi
12:48 Asphyxia: ei sovi 00:18:351 (5) - tän kanssa

12:48 Asphyxia: ite kurvaisin hiukan enemmän koska sit saisit söpön blanketin 00:18:028 (3) -
12:50 ProfessionalBox: done
12:50 Asphyxia: 00:31:093 (1) - onko mitään syytä miksei tää vaan lopu tohon red tickkiin? jos kuuntelet vaikka 25% playback ratella
12:51 Asphyxia: niin tosta red tickistä alkaa jo uus ääni
12:51 Asphyxia: KYLLÄ TIEDÄT MITÄ MEINAAN
12:52 Asphyxia: 00:38:028 (1) - näyttää mukavammalta jos blankettais 00:37:383 (3) - mutta oma on valintas
12:52 Asphyxia: ;o
12:52 ProfessionalBox: öö
12:52 ProfessionalBox: se korostaa sitä kitaraa enemmän
12:52 ProfessionalBox: ku on pidempi
12:52 Asphyxia: no vittu sun mutsis korostaa mun kitaraa
12:52 ProfessionalBox: + slidershape menee vituiks jos vaihan

:D:D:D:D:
12:53 Asphyxia: 00:44:802 - voisit pistää nuotin tähän
12:53 ProfessionalBox: nääh koitan implementoida enemmän slidereitä mitkä ei blankettaa jotta tulee enemmän diversityy
12:53 Asphyxia: muh strong white ticks ignored.
12:53 Asphyxia: toi kohta on jotenkin niin samanlaine tähän verrattuna
12:53 Asphyxia: 00:52:222 (1,2,3,4) -
12:53 Asphyxia: koska samanlainen tauko vokaaleissa?
12:54 Asphyxia: mutta tossa tokassa sulla on nuotti
12:54 Asphyxia: jnlnldlhjkdd en tiedä
12:54 Asphyxia: tee mitä haluat
12:54 ProfessionalBox: se ääni sil white tickillä on hemmetin hiljane
12:54 ProfessionalBox: äähmm
12:54 ProfessionalBox: mietin hetken
12:55 ProfessionalBox: Koska mä tykkään siitä korostuksesta ja toi tauko auttaa transeraamaan hitaaseen sectioniin imo
12:55 Asphyxia: 00:55:286 (3,1) - ei oo täysin parallel
12:55 Asphyxia: tuntuu vaan tosi oudolta mun mielestä miten
12:55 Asphyxia: ennen hidasta osiota sulla on tauko
12:55 Asphyxia: mutta sittenkun hidas osio tulee
12:55 Asphyxia: siellä on paljon enemmän objekteja
12:55 Asphyxia: imo aika meh mutta
12:55 ProfessionalBox: h m m m m
12:56 Asphyxia: 01:11:577 (1) - tuntuu taas tosi oudolta että tauko keskellä kiaita, imo sellanen
12:57 Asphyxia: constant movement ois kiva täällä saada
12:57 Asphyxia: kokeile jos pystyt laittaa tohon 3/4 sliderin?
12:57 Asphyxia: http://puu.sh/pa8s9/418dace8cf.jpg
12:57 Asphyxia: mutta parempi blanket
12:58 Asphyxia: 01:22:222 (1) - ehkä voit poistaa tän NC:n?
13:00 *Asphyxia is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/984334 Porno Graffitti - THE DAY [Hard]]
13:00 Asphyxia: 00:02:867 (3,2) - hieno blanket

13:01 ProfessionalBox: asssdsadsa
13:01 ProfessionalBox: en keksiny mitää tohon mihin laitoit kuvan
13:01 ProfessionalBox: ja imo se nyt menee noinki ni en lähe vääntää pakolla
13:01 ProfessionalBox: nc poistin
13:01 Asphyxia: 00:30:931 - vois olla ihan söpö kohta laittaa nuotti koska vokaalit
13:02 ProfessionalBox: 00:02:867 (3,2) - yksikään ihminen tässä maailmassa ei voi nähä tätä LOL
13:02 ProfessionalBox: korjasin silti
13:02 ProfessionalBox: xD
13:03 Asphyxia: etkö luokittele mua ihmiseks

13:03 ProfessionalBox: oot paljon enemmän <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<33<33<3<3<3
13:03 Asphyxia: <3
13:04 *Asphyxia is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/984293 Porno Graffitti - THE DAY [Normal]]
13:04 ProfessionalBox: hmm en laita nuottia koska haluun olla consistent sen kanssa mitä seuraan
13:04 ProfessionalBox: ja se korostaa kivasti sitä kitaraa
13:05 Asphyxia: mm normal on ihan hyvä
13:05 Asphyxia: joka kerta kun vilkasen intron
13:05 Asphyxia: triggeröidyn koska toi kuulostaa niin offiltä
13:05 Asphyxia: vitun MusiikKi
13:06 ProfessionalBox: hmm
13:06 ProfessionalBox: offset
13:06 ProfessionalBox: saattaa olla ohi
13:06 Asphyxia: saattaa olla vaan siitä kiinni kun
13:06 ProfessionalBox: mut mp3 on korjattu jo meyrinkin toimesta
13:06 Asphyxia: ne sliderit ei välttämättä osu vokaaleihin täsmälleen koska
13:07 Asphyxia: biisi on vaan sellanen

13:07 Asphyxia: :::o
13:07 Asphyxia: en tiedä
13:07 Asphyxia: silti aika trigger
13:07 ProfessionalBox: oks sul ketää joka tekee timing checkkejä
13:07 ProfessionalBox: voisin kysyy jotakuta
13:07 Asphyxia: 00:58:189 - vaikka on easy, voisit siltiä laittaa tähän nuotin
13:07 *Asphyxia is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/984053 Porno Graffitti - THE DAY [Easy]]
13:07 ProfessionalBox: Meinaa byby sano et sen mielest se on hiema ohi
13:07 Asphyxia: koska toi on aika big beat minkä missaat
13:08 Asphyxia: kerta sun sliderit loppuu red tickeihin tossa
13:08 Asphyxia: nuotti red tickissä pelais niiku
13:08 Asphyxia: 1/1
13:08 Asphyxia: Xd
13:08 Asphyxia: dlfmlöflm
13:08 Asphyxia: jos kysyt pishifatilta nätisti
13:08 Asphyxia: se saattaa
13:08 ProfessionalBox: no
13:08 ProfessionalBox: laitain
13:08 Asphyxia: easy on muuten hyvin
13:08 Asphyxia: postaan login

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Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2016-05-30T11:10:17+00:00

ByBy13 wrote:
Frey's Insane]
00:13:996(2,1)- Really weird to see that the vocals are still stronger here, you are using an antijump here.Having a jump here would make more sense to the stronger beat rather than an antijump in my point of view I know it might be weird if I don't map a jump when there is a strong beat. But that's not an absolute thing we have to perform in mapping. For me, I don't map a jump here, it will be more like a light insane in position
00:43:835(4,5)- These two circles played really weird because the vocals are stronger here and that's why it plays so weird.A jump will make more sense because the stronger vocals needs some emphasis ummm, still, I want to keep it. It might not be wrong to everyone
00:59:641(3,4)- Just my though: I would make a little jump here because as you can see, on (4)- is the high pitch of the piano and I think it needs some emphasis.A jump would make more sense because it will emphasize the high pitch of the piano while the antijump does not do it ok

thanks for mod!

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HabiHolic

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Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2016-05-30T11:49:14+00:00

all Fixed.

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276,40,46577,6,0,L|368:48,1,88,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,32,47061,5,4,0:0:0:0:
372,240,47222,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,240,47544,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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92,208,48028,6,0,B|60:128|124:120|84:32,1,176,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,88,48512,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,64,48996,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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36,264,51819,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,280,51899,2,0,L|24:328,1,44,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,360,52061,2,0,L|131:316,1,44
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448,96,53190,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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380,252,55931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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163,204,56415,2,0,P|80:215|24:151,1,176,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,124,56899,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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244,364,59641,1,8,0:0:0:0:
216,104,59802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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272,340,62222,1,8,0:0:0:0:
272,340,62544,6,0,P|356:351|415:290,1,176,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,220,63028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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0,152,63512,2,0,L|88:160,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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264,76,68190,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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228,360,68673,2,0,L|232:268,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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364,312,72464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,312,72544,2,0,L|352:208,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,44,72867,6,0,B|172:100|172:100|188:220,1,176,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,316,73351,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,152,73512,2,0,P|328:140|288:152,1,88
76,300,73835,2,0,P|120:312|160:300,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,208,74157,6,0,L|464:120,1,88
396,48,74480,1,8,0:0:0:0:
247,184,74641,2,0,P|163:194|104:133,1,176
204,20,75125,2,0,L|192:116,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,75448,6,0,L|405:104,1,88
464,32,75770,1,8,0:0:0:0:
327,164,75931,2,0,P|242:171|175:117,1,176
80,64,76415,2,0,L|68:156,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,336,76738,6,0,L|228:244,1,88
288,160,77061,1,8,0:0:0:0:
483,256,77222,2,0,P|413:304|328:289,1,176
160,184,77706,2,0,L|72:192,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,260,78028,6,0,P|36:176|12:92,1,176,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,24,78512,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,144,78673,2,0,L|280:136,1,88
368,248,78996,2,0,L|464:240,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
311,320,79319,6,0,P|227:333|162:278,1,176,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,152,79802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,152,79964,2,0,L|252:240,1,88
400,124,80286,2,0,L|388:36,1,88,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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ProfessionalBox

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

771 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

ProfessionalBox 2016-05-30T12:38:40+00:00

ByBy13 wrote:
Greetings! M4M request Hello

[General]
Is this a delay http://puu.sh/p8WSH/ffa26ef2ab.png? If yes, you have to get rid of it because it's over 5ms which is not acceptable for rank :c.This delay is present at: soft-hitfinish,soft-hitfinish2,drum-hitfinish and normal-hitfinish It isn't a delay if you ask me
The offset sounds somehow off.You can use as offset 628 (00:00:628-) because it will work better in my opinion and the objects will begin properly on the beats.Btw don't forget to resnap the green lines if you will change the offset I adjusted the offset so that it is 4ms later now, I kept the offset negative since it doesn't impact the map in any way
The romanised source is Boku no Hero Academia, not Boku my no Hero Academia.'My' comes from the English alternative of 'My Hero Academia' so if you still want to have 'my' in tags, you have to add 'My Hero Academia' to tags (do not double 'my' in tags ) Fixed
The artist can be written as ポルノグラフィティ which still means Porno Graffitti.Just put ポルノグラフィティ into Artist field.Porno Graffitti can be the romanised artist.Moreover, ポルノグラフィティ appears exactly under [THE DAY] in the video of the opening http://puu.sh/p90T2/6a23709467.jpg. Fixed aswell!
Other proofs:
http://heroaca.com/music.html
http://www.pornograffitti.jp/
https://www.facebook.com/pg.official.jp/
https://twitter.com/pg_koushiki

[Easy]
I know this song is a 186 BPM which is high but having 3 as HP and 5 as AR are not really confident with the difficulty itself since it should be a friendly low-player difficulty plus it is supposed to be the easiest difficulty of the mapset.Try to low the HP to 2 and the AR to 3 or 4 let's say Lowered to hp2 and ar3
00:19:964(3,1)- The head of (3)- is overlapping with (1)-'s tail which looks untidy.Moreover, it's noticeable in gameplay field. You can get rid of this unpleasant overlap so it won't look untidy anymore After a lot of adjustment I managed to get a working pattern, fixed
00:24:964(2)- I know that the long slider is for emphasizing of the piano but sounds somehow weird in my opinion because it kinda emphasize he guitar weird.A bit.Having a 3/2 slider + 1/1 slider will emphasize better both the piano and the guitar rather than a long slider http://puu.sh/p91WA/08b62dc725.jpg I like the long slider as it transfers the playing really well into the calm slow part, so that is my reasoning for keeping it on this and the normal diff
00:47:060(1,1,1,1)- Honestly saying, you don't have to overuse the NCs here in my point of view.You can have your comboing structure here like this: 1 -> 2 -> 1 -> 2.Overusing the NCs here can destroy your overall comboing structure in my opinion so that's why you don't have to overuse them Fixed
00:59:641- Here you can add a note because here is the high pitch of the piano and the note will emphasize it and making it clickable as well Added
01:05:125(1)- Here the drums are like pam, pam, pam, pam and not like paaaaaaam or something like this so the long 2/1 slider does not kinda fit because here the drums are not in extension.To follow them more better, you have to split the 2/1 slider into 2 1/1 sliders or just shorten the slider and then add a repeat which would have the same effect as the 2 1/1 sliders Changed
01:08:028(1)- Here is nothing in extension.Not instruments nor vocals.Here you started to follow the drums while on 01:07:706(1)- you followed the vocals which are on 1/2.Why don't you shorten this slider to the 1/2 tick (01:18:512-) and then add a repeat to follow the vocals on 1/2?Just my own thought.If you still want to remain on following the drums, split the 2/1 slider into two 1/1 sliders to give more effect to the drums since the drums are not in extension In my opinion these long sliders work nicely, I don't see a problem with them :s

[Normal]
00:12:222(5)- I think you missed a NC here.It would be better to add here another NC just to not destroy your overall comboing structure Fixed
00:24:964(2)- Same as I said for Easy.You can use a 3/2 slider + a 1/1 slider rather than a long slider just to emphasize both the piano and the guitar.Having a long slider would somehow emphasize the guitar weird here Same reason as in easy :p
[Hard]
00:31:093(1,2)- I think that the NC on (1)- was placed randomly as I can see.This randomly placing can destroy your comboing structure so considering to swap the NCs because actually the NC must be on (2)-, not on this slider Fixed
00:17:383(1,2)- Shouldn't be the distance between these objects a bit lowered? Because on (2)- the beat is not really stronger.It's just a noticeable beat and you don't need to make a jump between (1)- and (2)- because you don't have reasons to do it plus (2)- is emphasizing just a noticeable beat which is not really stronger in my opinion Fixed
00:36:738(1)- I don't see any extension into vocals as I can see which means that the 1/1 slider somehow does not fit the vocals (if you are following them).I suggest to shorten the slider to the 1/2 tick (00:36:899-) and then add a repeat so the slider will follow and emphasize the vocals much better than before I'm keeping this because I want a nice transfer between these parts and this would be a bit too click intensive without the long sliders imo
00:42:886(5)- Here too I don't see any extension here so the slider somehow does not really fit the vocals really well.If you want to follow them properly, you can shorten the slider to the 1/2 tick (00:43:047-) and then on the 1/1 tick where was the slider's tail previously, add a note to give a better effect to the stronger beats there by having 2 notes here so you will follow and emphasize the vocals and the instruments I'm also keeping this because I want a clear line between this calm part and the intensiveness of kiai and the part after intro.
00:52:240(1)- If I am not wrong, I think this slider is supposed to end on the 1/4 tick and not on the 1/2 tick because you did the same at 00:47:079(1)-and here the vocals are same as 00:47:079(1)- so that's why the slider must end on 1/4 and not on 1/2 Fixed
01:03:853(1)- I would prefer to not use a 1/1 slider here because I don't see any extension here.Moreover, seems like for this kind of rhythm works an 1/2 slider with a repeat rather than a 1/1 slider so you will follow and emphasize the vocals properly.Same goes for 01:06:434(1)- These are following the vocals that are clearly long streched out words, so the head and tail land on the syllables
01:16:757(1)- And here too but here would be different rhythm.Instead having a 1/1 slider which does not emphasize almost nothing becuase there is not any extension into the vocals nor the instruments, you can shorten the slider to the 1/2 tick (01:16:918-) and then add a note on 01:17:079- so the vocals would be properly followed and emphasized than before Same Here!
01:20:305(3,1)- Maybe adding a jump here rather than having an antijump?Because on (1)- the vocals are stronger and they need some emphasis in my opinion and a jump would make more sense rather than an antijump in my point of view Hmm since this is not such an impactive part I wont use a jump here but instead use it at the next suggestion!
01:21:757(4,1)- Here too? On (1)- seems like the vocals are screaming and yes they need some emphasis too A jump would make more sense rather than an antijump in my opinion I'll add the jump here because it fits really well here.
01:24:176(1)- Honestly saying, I don't think you should have a NC here because as I can see, you are adding NCs after every two beats and adding a Nc here will destroy your overall comboing structure in my opinion.You just have to remove the NC to avoid destroying your comboing structure.Moreover, shouldn't be the spacing between (1)- and (2)- like 1.30x spacing rather than 1.78x (almost 1.80x) spacing? This looks like the only huge jump as I can see here Removed NC!

This must be all! I did not find anything notable in Extra difficulty .The looks promiting but getting a mod would be fine and then you can call me back!
Good Luck!

Thank you ByBy ^^

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2016-05-30T18:40:36+00:00

If I had the power I would qualify this now, but the only problems were on hard normal and easy
[Hard]

00:03:189 (1) - 1/4 sounds better it actually ends properly on the vocals even. It fairs better than 1/6 imo since it doesn't hit anything http://puu.sh/pay6v/33a02a7aff.jpg or maybe was it a mistake kek
00:06:899 (2) - Also you can remove this note, it adds more uniqueness than having it rushed into the next slider, plus it really emphasizes this part if it is removed since 00:10:125 (4) - plays to vocals while (2) plays to nothing
00:12:064 - This is where you could've added a note, nothing is wrong here but places of value can be used, adds a lot to emphasizing the vocals and creating a good NC at 00:12:222 (3) -
00:16:093 (1) - Unsnapped sliderend uh... you good m8
00:24:964 (1) - Idk why you ended slider on a blue tick, the drum sound in the music ends on the white tick but it's very subtle plus it helps with 1.3 spacing on these notes 00:25:931 (2,3) -
00:31:899 (3) - I don't really like this being stacked here, I kinda wanted something more from this note, really deprivded this part from having a good emphasis on things some random stuff like this http://puu.sh/payDn/5bc52a2b8c.jpg
00:36:738 (1) - Unsapped sliderend
00:53:673 (2) - Same as ^ I really would've loved is this was moved somewhere else instead of stacked
00:57:383 (1) - Unsnapped sliderend again, I believe white tick should do you god
01:02:544 (1) - Same as ^

[Normal]

00:55:935 (2) - DS error
01:06:903 (3) - Same as ^
01:11:581 (4) - Can move a little further for 1.0 DS
01:17:871 (6,1,2) - Unrankable because it's touching HP Bar

[Easy]

00:01:742 (2) - DS error it's not 1.0 but 1.10
00:27:064 (2) - Can make 1.0 to stay consistent since this one is more off than the others
00:36:742 (1) - Same as ^

Yeah everything else is really good now you can get it qualified if these are fixed. Trust in my instincts

ProfessionalBox

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

771 posts

Joined September 2013

Topic Starter

ProfessionalBox 2016-05-30T19:27:54+00:00

Applied all of Kocari's mod and checked for any random snapping issues. Everything should be ready now!

Meyrink

728 posts

Joined February 2014

Meyrink 2016-06-04T14:44:04+00:00

plsu ultear

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2016-06-11T14:34:36+00:00

~~placeholder~~ sorry for late somehing happen at my house zzz

General

Metadata source :c?
drum-hitfinish.wav normal-hitfinish.wav soft-hitfinish.wav soft-hitfinish2.wav, they have more than 5 ms delay, here is a fixed ver.: http://puu.sh/pnN26.wav
Meyrink's Insane is ending in a different place, is fine? yes, but I guess being consistent is also important, so maybe you guys can reconsider this?
What really bother me about this map are the hitsounds, the soft hitsounds are almost inaudible at some spots 00:07:064 (1) - 00:09:645 (1) - , also 00:45:774 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - sounds really not fitting the song at any case the normal-hitnormal is better, 00:59:000 (1,2,1,2) - same, idk if reducing the volume could help maybe. Slider ends the overmapped and the barely audible ones must use less volume, also the soft hitnormal fit better the song, take a look at Meyrink's diff.
00:51:258 (1,2) - try to get more opinions about the snapping here, the prominent beats are in 1/2, so you guys make it simple or get more opinions about it, because habi and frey are using 1/4 and you 1/3
OD in the 3 insane diffs is the same, could you guys use different settinngs? like 7 - 7,5 - 8 or something like that?

Plus Ultra

00:01:742 (1) - silence the slider tail, there is nothing in the music, btw the funny thing about this is that the hold sound is actually ending at 00:01:903 -
00:03:193 (5,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I don't get what are you following, 00:03:193 (5,1,2) - instruments i guess, but then you switch to vocals 00:04:484 (1,2,3,4) - and you don't even follow them properly, the other two insanes follow the song better at this point, I hope you can redo the rhythm here
00:06:581 - vs 00:07:871 (3) - why they are mapping different? since they are almost the same in the music
00:13:193 (1) - reduce the volume at the slider tail and maybe use a soft hitnormal for it, since the music is barely audible.
00:15:452 (1,1) - ^ same, take a look at every diff and please reduce the volume at the slider tails, of course the overmapped and barely audible ones
00:29:322 (3) - add NC like you did at 00:26:742 (1) - ?
00:31:581 (1,2,3,1,2) - seems you being really inconsistent with your comboing ^ ^ ^
00:36:258 (1) - mapping the prominent sounds is a better option, the 1/8s are barely audibles at normal speed, but up to you
00:39:000 (6) - well I agree that extended sliders can add some variation to the maps and ignoring non important sounds is fine, but this is not the case the sound at 00:39:161 (6) - is super prominent..
00:42:871 (1,1) - why the NC is like this, also in the sliders vocals are 1/2
00:47:387 (2) - add a circle or something atleast? most of the time you are following a mix with vocals and instruments, so this feels so weird
00:56:419 (2,3) - nazi, blanket.
01:06:419 (6) - missing NC, I suppose
01:22:871 (5) - this clap is so weird and is super confused when you playing the stream, can you remove it?

Meyrink's Insane

00:01:742 (1,1) - they are the same in the music, just group them in the same combo, since spamming combos create an unnecessary HP boost, which is totally unnecessary here
00:12:226 (4) - missing NC, since is inconsistent with your combo pattern.
00:55:290 (2,3) - 01:12:548 (6,1) - nazi, blanket is super off

Habi's Insane

00:11:581 (3) - this is touching the HP bar and doesn't looks nice, also it's easy to be avoided
00:27:064 (4,5) - this blanket is super off, fix pls.
00:33:193 (3,4) - the music is really calm, a really big jump like the current one doesn't fit the music nicely.

Frey's Insane

00:19:161 (2,3,4,5) - the jump to 5 feels so sudden for an easier insane diff, also you know playing triplets + jumps can be a bit annoying, reduce the spacing a bit.
00:51:581 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - the snapping doesn't sounds right here
01:10:774 (2) - move this a bit down, it's actually touching the HP bar
01:20:613 (1,2) - is this supposed to be a blanket? if so fix pls, because is super off

Hard

00:01:742 (1,2) - blanket is off
00:50:935 (1,2,3,4) - i feel this pattern being too much for a hard diff, like the rhythm is super weird and the spacing, yeah I highly suggest you to do sonmething else here
00:59:645 (2,3,4) - even the insane diffs didn't used a triplet here, because the sounds are not clearly and is hard to play rhythms that you can't figure our easily, and being this a hard diff, isn't better to make the things simple and use a 1/2 slider?
00:59:968 (1,2) - blanket
personally I'd remove the triplets, since the BPM is kinda hard and you have already 3 insane diffs that feature 1/4s, so I guess making the hard diff more simple is better.

Normal

00:05:774 (1,2) - spacing
00:07:064 (2,3) - same, be careful when stacking, since the stack leniency can cause issues with spacing in game.
00:08:355 (1,2) - spacing
01:02:548 (1,2) - ^
00:47:064 (1) - this is touching the HP bar, yeah is rankable, but looks bad, since looks like you don't care about the game elements

Easy

01:05:774 (2,3) - there is a little spacing error

Frey

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Joined February 2011

Frey 2016-06-13T11:33:58+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Frey's Insane

00:19:161 (2,3,4,5) - the jump to 5 feels so sudden for an easier insane diff, also you know playing triplets + jumps can be a bit annoying, reduce the spacing a bit. I know it would be a bit weird cuz of the spacing, but I can't think up a better place to put it. So I choose to keep it. I might be a pity which causes misses, but it is NOT an issue that we have to fix.
00:51:581 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - the snapping doesn't sounds right here the string sound should be in 1/4 so I think it fine
01:10:774 (2) - move this a bit down, it's actually touching the HP bar ummm, it won't be a problem as long as it isn't a horizontal slider.
01:20:613 (1,2) - is this supposed to be a blanket? if so fix pls, because is super off fixed

Thanks for your mod!

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Meyrink

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Meyrink 2016-06-13T15:17:48+00:00

Fixed all ! Thanks for mod

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ProfessionalBox

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ProfessionalBox 2016-06-13T16:40:11+00:00

Fixed everything that was mentioned except for

Natsu wrote:
00:47:387 (2) - add a circle or something atleast? most of the time you are following a mix with vocals and instruments, so this feels so weird There isn't really a way to add a circle here without breaking the intentions of slowing down and following the vocals

EDIT: I also applied changes for HabiHolic with her permission since she has an exam week. Fixed all including the OD change and 1/3 fix. Everything should be ready now!

meii18

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meii18 2016-06-18T21:14:14+00:00

Rechecked and nothing found.Also the video and hitsounds are fine after I rechecked them. Bubbled!

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-06-24T08:17:09+00:00

was going to qualify is, but 00:51:258 (1,2) - you guys still are inconsistent with the snapping, I asked to several BNs and they all think 1/4 is the best way for this. Could you recheck it? I'll qualify after it

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-06-24T12:29:37+00:00

fixed some hitsound in game, all seems fine, GL

Haruto

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Haruto 2016-06-24T12:55:59+00:00

ayy Grats Probox!!

Irohas

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Irohas 2016-06-24T15:07:17+00:00

gratz!

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2016-06-24T22:39:54+00:00

ayyyy

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2016-06-25T16:33:00+00:00

uh... i think the snapping is just wrong at some places,

for example, in Plus Ultra diff:

00:25:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the whole stream is mapped into nothing, the piano is clearly not 1/4 and there's no 1/4 instrument in here, the last 3-2 notes sounds even worse because the music already stopped at this point, the only thing remaining is indeed the guitar
00:59:645 (1,2,3,4,1) - pretty much the same as previous, the piano is not 1/4 here.
01:22:629 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - i wonder why did you decide to change the sampleset to the soft one here?, it doesn't sound good imo, the stream is clearly mapped into the drums which are really noisy so changing the sampleset isn't the best idea if you ask me.

i was reading the previous mods and KittyAdventure pointed something about this but you didn't reply to him properly xd

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-06-25T23:52:40+00:00

Kagetsu wrote:
uh... i think the snapping is just wrong at some places,

for example, in Plus Ultra diff:

00:25:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the whole stream is mapped into nothing, the piano is clearly not 1/4 and there's no 1/4 instrument in here, the last 3-2 notes sounds even worse because the music already stopped at this point, the only thing remaining is indeed the guitar listen again there is like 1/16, 1/8 sound that can be mapped as 1/4
00:59:645 (1,2,3,4,1) - pretty much the same as previous, the piano is not 1/4 here. same as above
01:22:629 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - i wonder why did you decide to change the sampleset to the soft one here?, it doesn't sound good imo, the stream is clearly mapped into the drums which are really noisy so changing the sampleset isn't the best idea if you ask me. sounds good o.o
i was reading the previous mods and KittyAdventure pointed something about this but you didn't reply to him properly xd

sorry for posting, but yeah wanted to clarify that snaps can be simplified :l

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2016-06-26T03:28:47+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Kagetsu wrote:
uh... i think the snapping is just wrong at some places,

for example, in Plus Ultra diff:

00:25:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the whole stream is mapped into nothing, the piano is clearly not 1/4 and there's no 1/4 instrument in here, the last 3-2 notes sounds even worse because the music already stopped at this point, the only thing remaining is indeed the guitar listen again there is like 1/16, 1/8 sound that can be mapped as 1/4
00:59:645 (1,2,3,4,1) - pretty much the same as previous, the piano is not 1/4 here. same as above
01:22:629 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - i wonder why did you decide to change the sampleset to the soft one here?, it doesn't sound good imo, the stream is clearly mapped into the drums which are really noisy so changing the sampleset isn't the best idea if you ask me. sounds good o.o
i was reading the previous mods and KittyAdventure pointed something about this but you didn't reply to him properly xd
sorry for posting, but yeah wanted to clarify that snaps can be simplified :l

uh... not really, i'd say the piano is 1/6 in these spots... and what's the point of simplify the snapping? if the map is following an instrument then it should follow it properly, this isn't the same thing as when you ignore streams for placing jumps or something, because in those cases you're just following other instruments. however, in this case i think it's pretty obvious that those streams are intended to follow the piano. if he wanted to use a simpler rhythm then he could just use a slider to follow the guitar like the other diffs did.
00:25:693 (6) - is still overmapped, there's literally no 1/4 sound.
about the last point, it was mainly just a suggestion, it's just hard to folllow a stream when you suddenly change the sampleset without a "reason?" i mean what's the point of changing it if you were previously following the drums lol

i would prefer a reply from the mapper tho xd

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-06-26T03:31:08+00:00

Yeah but under your logic then there shouldn't be hard easy and normal diffs xD, snapping can be simplified for the sake of playability, for example 1/16 repeats can cause alot of breaks and also u don't want to throw 1/8 circle streams at high bpm, this has been an acceptable way of mapping lol.

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2016-06-26T03:38:15+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Yeah but under your logic then there shouldn't be hard easy and normal diffs xD, snapping can be simplified for the sake of playability, for example 1/16 repeats can cause alot of breaks and also u don't want to throw 1/8 circle streams at high bpm, this has been an acceptable way of mapping lol.

uh, this isn't an easy or normal diff so what's the point of undermapping things xd

Battle

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Battle 2016-06-26T03:39:51+00:00

cuz at the end of the day it's a game and if it's not fun to play why play it

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-06-26T03:40:30+00:00

Kagetsu wrote:
Natsu wrote:
Yeah but under your logic then there shouldn't be hard easy and normal diffs xD, snapping can be simplified for the sake of playability, for example 1/16 repeats can cause alot of breaks and also u don't want to throw 1/8 circle streams at high bpm, this has been an acceptable way of mapping lol.
uh, this isn't an easy or normal diff so what's the point of undermapping things xd

that following the music that close can sometimes cause issues in the playability, which I believe can be the case here.

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2016-06-26T03:55:59+00:00

Natsu wrote:
that following the music that close can sometimes cause issues in the playability, which I believe can be the case here.

it follows the music, just in a bad way tho... there are better options to map those rhythms, using the wrong option is just lack of quality, at least to me.
anyways, i'm out... i think i won't change your opinion xdd... so this discussion is leading to nothing

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2016-06-26T07:35:56+00:00

Why is the preview point not the chorus xddd

ProfessionalBox

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ProfessionalBox 2016-06-26T08:28:11+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Why is the preview point not the chorus xddd

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

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riffy 2016-06-28T05:15:17+00:00

Let's take a moment to discuss the snapping. I see no reason not to use 1/8 sliders, or 1/16 slider (as long as they're playable). The point about snapping seems to be valid, so... Disqualified.

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Natsu 2016-06-28T05:21:54+00:00

call me back after you explain the 1/4s or u make changes

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ProfessionalBox 2016-06-28T06:17:39+00:00

I'll explain my reasoning for doing the snapping the way it's done, and why I will keep it the same:

1) First of all were talking strictly about the extra diff here. I'm sure we all can agree that a stream adds more difficulty in a map than a 1/8 or 1/16 single repeat slider. So to fulfill the role of being an extra, it would be more reasonable to use the harder solution here since it does fit the music and is an easy to understand rhythmwise aswell while playing the song

2) Now to elaborate on that note a bit further; no, the hardest solution possible isn't always the best one, but in this case it is much more fitting than a repeat slider which follows the music more closely, but at the same time is being completely underwhelming with it's difficulty

3) For why I decided to map the streams instead of only following guitar and using long sliders is partly connected to my previous reasons but for the most part it has to do with the great presence that the piano has on the parts. It would be weird to only use long sliders that follow the long guitar sounds well while ignoring the piano, instead of trying to map the piano sounds into the most appropriate and enjoyable way to play them, which are streams in my opinion in this case. I can see why you'd find 00:25:613 (5,6,7) - particularly worthy of pointing out, but since this is a rhythm game, ending the stream on a blue tick would not be the most optimal solution here in my opinion. Thus I decided to extend it on it's own to a more easy to follow and fun to play rhythm that is made up entirely by me, but still fitting the part and the song nonetheless.

4) Following my experience from the playtests and the 4 day period that everyone has had to play on the qualified version, I've had only one complaint about the streams from the user who posted on this thread, but no one else has atleast publically spoken of them being unfitting. What I can take away from this is that people find it natural to play for the most part as intended and have no complaints. This further proves why I feel like my actions are justified and why there is no need for anything to be changed.

I hope this helped explain my thought process a little bit

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Kagetsu 2016-06-28T06:43:43+00:00

ProfessionalBox wrote:
2) Now to elaborate on that note a bit further; no, the hardest solution possible isn't always the best one, but in this case it is much more fitting than a repeat slider which follows the music more closely, but at the same time is being completely underwhelming with it's difficulty

i'm not saying that you should remove the streams, there are ways to map 1/6 or 1/8 sounds using little kicksliders and it plays exactly like a normal stream, it just fits better .

example

ProfessionalBox wrote:
3) For why I decided to map the streams instead of only following guitar and using long sliders is partly connected to my previous reasons but for the most part it has to do with the great presence that the piano has on the parts. It would be weird to only use long sliders that follow the long guitar sounds well while ignoring the piano, instead of trying to map the piano sounds into the most appropriate and enjoyable way to play them, which are streams in my opinion in this case. I can see why you'd find 00:25:613 (5,6,7) - particularly worthy of pointing out, but since this is a rhythm game, ending the stream on a blue tick would not be the most optimal solution here in my opinion. Thus I decided to extend it on it's own to a more easy to follow and fun to play rhythm that is made up entirely by me, but still fitting the part and the song nonetheless.

i agree with you on the point of extending the stream until 00:25:613 - but 00:25:693 (6) - this note sounds defenitily overmapped to me because the piano already stopped

ProfessionalBox wrote:
4) Following my experience from the playtests and the 4 day period that everyone has had to play on the qualified version, I've had only one complaint about the streams from the user who posted on this thread, but no one else has atleast publically spoken of them being unfitting. What I can take away from this is that people find it natural to play for the most part as intended and have no complaints. This further proves why I feel like my actions are justified and why there is no need for anything to be changed.

playtests aren't a good indicator, i actually can play overmapped things like this, there are many streams practice maps that many people can perfectly play, but it doesn't mean that they're correctly mapped.

edit: the stream is still 1/6 to me (bb code is hard)

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pkhg 2016-06-28T06:52:14+00:00

the piano is clearly 1/6 imo
the map being a extra doesnt mean that you must choose the hardest thing

00:24:161 (2) - you used a slider instead of mapping the triplet which starts on the redtick but you said about using something that adds more difficulty to the map because its an extra
00:35:371 (3) - thats overmapped
00:45:774 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - overmapped too http://puu.sh/pIJw5/02550700c2.jpg
01:22:629 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - its really weird the lack of hitsounds here
01:23:355 (2,3,4,5) - this is misplaced. ctrl g it
01:25:371 - why you ignored this?
move the preview point 1/4 later so you only hear "the day has come". currently you can hear a "da" before it so better moving it

the kiai dont have any 1/4 at all except from 01:22:548 (1) -

i suggest to change at least the bold ones
just looked at plus ultra so you can carry those to the other diffs

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ProfessionalBox 2016-06-28T07:20:20+00:00

Kagetsu wrote:
i'm not saying that you should remove the streams, there are ways to map 1/6 or 1/8 sounds using little kicksliders and it plays exactly like a normal stream, it just fits better .

As I previously stated I have no intentions of changing them. And what you suggested in the picture is something that I personally hate in mapping

Kagetsu wrote:
i agree with you on the point of extending the stream until 00:25:613 - but 00:25:693 (6) - this note sounds defenitily overmapped to me because the piano already stopped

I know that it is overmapped like I said, and I explained why.

Kagetsu wrote:
playtests aren't a good indicator, i actually can play overmapped things like this, there are many streams practice maps that many people can perfectly play, but it doesn't mean that they're correctly mapped.

If people felt like it was unfitting they would have pointed it out, that's the point of playtesting.

pkhg wrote:
the piano is clearly 1/6 imo
the map being a extra doesnt mean that you must choose the hardest thing

Did you even read the second point I mentioned? Also thanks for the correction with the piano, but it won't change the fact that I won't be making them into sliders / repeat sliders for the reasons I mentioned.

pkhg wrote:
00:24:161 (2) - you used a slider instead of mapping the triplet which starts on the redtick but you said about using something that adds more difficulty to the map because its an extra This could be a triple indeed, but after thinking about it for a while I decided to keep it as it is since I'm really pleased with 00:24:161 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - section as a whole, and making it a triple would force me to remap parts of this.
00:35:371 (3) - thats overmapped This is intentional
00:45:774 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - overmapped too http://puu.sh/pIJw5/02550700c2.jpg So is this
01:22:629 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - its really weird the lack of hitsounds here I touched the hitsounding here with the mod from Natsu refer to that
01:23:355 (2,3,4,5) - this is misplaced. ctrl g it This is not misplaced, it's exactly how I ment for it to be with the circular flow from 01:23:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) -
01:25:371 - why you ignored this The sound is not loud enough to be considered a must to map. I made it a circle since I wanted to have this pattern work 01:25:129 (4,1) - because it represents the music well imo

I do understand that not everyone likes overmapping but overmapping in moderation can make a map feel more personal to whoever created it. I have considered every object in my head and how it would fit the song to put them there. I think it presents the freedom and creativeness that I have as a mapper and why I'm allowed to do so as long as it is reasonable.

Also my apologies if the reply sounds negative. That's not my intention at all

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2016-06-28T07:31:39+00:00

uh... from what i'm understanding you won't change the streams just because 1/4 is more comfortably to play?
so, should we map the 1/3 streams as 1/4 just because of that? i guess the answer is pretty obvious here, the snapping is just wrong and it should be fixed... you can always take the more comfortably option to make your maps, but you should ask yourself if the way that you are choosing is fitting the music, because i think that's the whole point behind of making a beatmap, otherwise, it would just be random notes without any sense.

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pkhg 2016-06-28T07:35:11+00:00

pkhg wrote:
00:45:774 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - overmapped too http://puu.sh/pIJw5/02550700c2.jpg So is this > there are actually 1/4 beats where i placed the circles not like yours
01:23:355 (2,3,4,5) - this is misplaced. ctrl g it This is not misplaced, it's exactly how I ment for it to be with the circular flow from 01:23:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - > with misplaced i mean theres a 1/4 beat 01:23:597 - but you just ignored it and placed a circle where arent any 174 beats which is 01:23:435 (3)

just be more carefull when hearing. im really sure about those 1/4s

also move the preview point 1/4 later so you only hear "the day has come". currently you can hear a "da" before it so better moving it

ProfessionalBox

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ProfessionalBox 2016-06-28T07:42:43+00:00

Kagetsu wrote:
uh... from what i'm understanding you won't change the streams just because 1/4 is more comfortably to play?
so, should we map the 1/3 streams as 1/4 just because of that? i guess the answer is pretty obvious here, the snapping is just wrong and it should be fixed... you can always take the more comfortably option to make your maps, but you should ask yourself if the way that you are choosing is fitting the music, because i think that's the whole point behind of making a beatmap, otherwise, it would just be random notes without any sense.

The reason that I want to keep them as 1/4 is that

1) 1/6 streams would be too hard
2) 1/6 repeats would be too underwhelming
3) 1/6 sliderstreams as in the picture you showed are something I dislike and don't want to include them in my mapping
4) The 1/4 fits the part well and is the optimal solution to following the piano sounds when the intention is to map the sounds as a stream

If this truly was a major issue and something that needed to be fixed like you said, then wouldn't you think that the modders and beatmap nominators included in the ranking process would have forced me to change them already? The streams will stay as 1/4 since it's not an unrankable issue and presents the way I want for them to be.

pkhg wrote:
with misplaced i mean theres a 1/4 beat 01:23:597 - but you just ignored it and placed a circle where arent any 174 beats which is 01:23:435 (3)

Oh now I see, I'll change this since I agree with what you are trying to suggest

pkhg wrote:
also move the preview point 1/4 later so you only hear "the day has come". currently you can hear a "da" before it so better moving it

This I agree with also, will do

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2016-06-28T08:05:09+00:00

ProfessionalBox wrote:
Kagetsu wrote:
uh... from what i'm understanding you won't change the streams just because 1/4 is more comfortably to play?
so, should we map the 1/3 streams as 1/4 just because of that? i guess the answer is pretty obvious here, the snapping is just wrong and it should be fixed... you can always take the more comfortably option to make your maps, but you should ask yourself if the way that you are choosing is fitting the music, because i think that's the whole point behind of making a beatmap, otherwise, it would just be random notes without any sense.
The reason that I want to keep them as 1/4 is that

1) 1/6 streams would be too hard
2) 1/6 repeats would be too underwhelming
3) 1/6 sliderstreams as in the picture you showed are something I dislike and don't want to include them in my mapping
4) The 1/4 fits the part well and is the optimal solution to following the piano sounds when the intention is to map the sounds as a stream

If this truly was a major issue and something that needed to be fixed like you said, then wouldn't you think that the modders and beatmap nominators included in the ranking process would have forced me to change them already? The streams will stay as 1/4 since it's not an unrankable issue and presents the way I want for them to be.

in fact, as i said, KittyAdventure pointed something about the stream, he was not quite right imo... but, you should at least have replied him properly.
and about the snapping thing being not a unrankable issue... well, i do remember this case when this map had a wrong snapping and it got dq (a huge discussion started from there lol)
uhm... i think that me giving more points about this will not change your opinion about the stream anyways, so i would like if you could receive some feedback from other people about the snapping issue.

ProfessionalBox

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ProfessionalBox 2016-06-28T08:44:23+00:00

Opinions from multiple mappers / players

chatlog from discussion in #modhelp

11:08 Kagetsu: hey guys... what do you think about [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5263232 these points]? the map just got dq xd
11:09 Kagetsu: i would like some feedback so he can requalify his map the most quick possible
11:09 Arcubin: r u hot?
11:09 Kagetsu: kinda
11:09 Kagetsu: you got me
11:10 CptBlackBird: hot
11:14 pkhg: lo
11:15 CptBlackBird: l
11:16 Chaos: Kagetsu: not everything has to be exactly mapped to the sounds that are occurring
11:16 Chaos: I can't look at that particular map atm but that's just my 2c on the principle
11:17 Kagetsu: well, i agree with you on that xd but should we map 1/4 streams as 1/6 just because it is more comfortably to play? lol
11:17 Arcubin: how is that happen?
11:17 Arcubin: 1/6 gives more strain
11:17 Arcubin: sorry, just online
11:18 Kagetsu: i personally think that if you are intended to map a sound then you should map it the closest way possible
11:18 Kagetsu: ehr
11:18 Kagetsu: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5263232 check this] Arcubin
11:18 Chaos: I disagree
11:19 Chaos: this is still a game, not a music imitation exercise
11:19 pkhg: uh
11:19 pkhg: its a 'rhythm' game
11:19 Chaos: if the stream(s) in question don't properly follow a specific snap throughout its duration and there is no reasonable way to represent it, then I don't see the inherent issue with making it more consistent at the price of losing a bit of accuracy
11:20 Kagetsu: thing is that there are better ways to do it
11:22 Chaos: are you referring to the piano glissando before the first verse?
11:22 Kagetsu: yep
11:25 Chaos: hmm. can't really give a proper opinion without looking at the map
11:26 Chaos: but I can see where somebody would take issue with how I believe this is mapped at present
11:27 Kagetsu: well... it's a piano glissando as you said, mapped as a 1/4 stream
11:28 Chaos: I don't see why not map something like that with say a repeating slider as a high spaced jump
11:28 CptBlackBird: I might be blind but I didn't see any problem when playing it
11:28 Chaos: or a fast slider, or something like that
11:28 Kagetsu: it's not a problem of playibility imo
11:28 Chaos: glissandos by nature won't really follow a rhythm
11:28 pkhg: mythologias end is entirely overmapped an its still playable
11:28 Kagetsu: it's how the music it's represented
11:29 Kagetsu: the stream is playable, but it doesn't represent the music, that's my opinion xd
11:29 Chaos: so it's a risky endeavor to even try to put a stream onto them, in most cases
11:30 Kagetsu: well... i agree with you on that, i wouldn't put a stream there either
11:31 Chaos: I wish I could look at the map but I can't dl it since I'm at work *shrugs*
11:31 Kagetsu: thing is that if the mapper want to map that as a stream, then he should at least use the correct snapping
11:32 Kocari: oh damn
11:32 Kocari: its getting frisky in here
11:32 Kocari: probably about the porno grafitti map
11:32 Chaos: unlikely that there is a precisely correct snapping to use
11:32 pkhg: lol
11:32 Kagetsu: well, let's say the most accurate then
11:32 Akitoshi: omg
11:33 Nelka714: why don't we just call the owner to here for easier talk?
11:33 ProfessionalBox: Are you happy with the opinions you have now Kagetsu, or do you want me to find more people
11:33 Nelka714: e
11:33 pkhg: o
11:33 Kagetsu: here is he
11:33 Chaos: idk. I think using 1/4 for a desired stream is fine, personally
11:34 Kagetsu: even if it doesn't represent the music?
11:34 Kocari: yep
11:34 Chaos: not everything can be represented completely accurately
11:34 Kocari: I regret never keeping my ideas
11:34 Chaos: there are numerous instances of things like this being done this way
11:34 CptBlackBird: having a "random" 1/6 could mess people over imo
11:34 Kagetsu: but if there are other ways that are more accurate, shouldn't we use these options?
11:34 Kagetsu: like a repeating slider
11:34 Chaos: not always, imo
11:35 ProfessionalBox: Like I said in the thread multiple times: It's not always the best option to follow the music as closely as possible. It's a rhythm game and not a music imitation game after all
11:35 Chaos: I'm not the mapper. if probox wants it to be a stream and it is fitting enough, then I wouldn't tell him no
11:35 Kocari: I'd rank it
11:35 Chaos: if I were mapping it, I probably would put a slider or a repeating slider, as I hae said
11:35 Chaos: *have
11:36 Kocari: damn structure wise feels stranger now
11:36 Chaos: I would have pointed it out, heard his reasoning as seen in the thread currently, and moved on.
11:36 Kocari: feelsbadman
11:36 Kagetsu: thing is that you probably won't use a 1/4 repeater, because it doesn't fit the music
11:36 Asgore-: a
11:36 Chaos: because the musical element is overly difficult to accurately portray
11:36 Chaos: and we can't be extreme about wanting to fit the music in the mapping
11:36 Kocari: it's like trying to freestyle drumming
11:37 Arcubin: my internet killing me
11:37 Arcubin: what's the matter now?
11:37 Nelka714: dq cause questionable snapping
11:38 Nelka714: *'cause
11:38 Kagetsu: this ^
11:38 Arcubin: still the same as before?
11:38 CptBlackBird: it's good as it is rn imo, even if it would folllow the music more, 1/6 streams would be less comfortable to play
11:38 ProfessionalBox: The dq wasn't because of the snapping being an issue, it was because it was to be discussed further.
11:38 Chaos: I agree!
11:38 Kocari: ^\
11:38 Arcubin: lol probox is here
11:39 Arcubin: and what i read from his comment on the thread
11:39 Arcubin: he is valid
11:39 Kocari: As a pro player myself
11:39 Kocari: its good
11:39 Chaos: I'll take a look at the song when I get home and make a comment on it in the thread once I've seen the specific parts in question
11:39 Kocari: kek
11:39 Nelka714: these issues looks comparable with blanketing, from my point of view
11:39 Nelka714: like
11:39 Nelka714: sometimes
11:39 Nelka714: good blanket = bad flow
11:39 Kagetsu: uh... isn't the same imo
11:40 Arcubin: it's depend Nelka714
11:40 Nelka714: idk
11:40 Arcubin: depend on how you mapped it
11:40 Nelka714: that's why "sometimes"
11:40 Kocari: there has been ranked maps
11:40 Kocari: with questionable snaps
11:40 Kocari: No dab Cough*
11:40 Arcubin: this game is about beat
11:41 Arcubin: as the intro says
11:41 Arcubin: "click the circles, to the BEAT"
11:41 Arcubin: not the rhythm
11:41 Kagetsu: LOL
11:41 ProfessionalBox: I think we have gathered enough opinions from here now
11:41 Kagetsu: that's why this is called memehelp
11:41 ProfessionalBox: I'm going to savelog post in thread
11:41 Arcubin: i'm sure probox decission is correct
11:42 ProfessionalBox: Nothing will be changed as stated before, backed up with the majority of opinions from here aswell

tl;dr Majority agrees on the map being fine as it is

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riffy 2016-06-28T12:03:24+00:00

Since we did move the preview and one more thing, yeah.

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