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Sandy Hoey
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I think we also have to remember this isn't the first religion/ideals based war. Hundreds of years ago in was actually the Christian faith that was going at it among themselves and different sects of the same faith (I think it was Catholic vs Protestant? Maybe? Someone correct me if i'm wrong). That all wroked itself out, I hope this will to.
To many innocent people from all over have died
Faust
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Indeed they did.
Jerusalem was stormed and all that jazz. And also yes that happened, Catholics at loggerheads with the Protestants in Ireland (notably).

And yes again, too many have been killed over unbelievably selfish and petty reasons.
Sandy Hoey
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But then to bring it back to the topic of the OP, how should we take all of this and implement it into our immigration policy. It is a lot to consider.
I think Trump is right when he says countries need to have laws that set borders and others need to respect that (I have not see or heard any of his actual plans to deal with this besides the famous Wall). However, we also need to consider the intentions that these immigrants have when they come over here.
I do believe that a large portion, if not the majority, of those immigrating are actually fleeing violence and seeking refugee. They have no intentions of taking away from citizens of the places that they are going to. All they want is safety for themselves and their families.
But then how do we balance this with the poverty issues that we already face?

I don't know much about politics, but this is what I think makes this such a tough debate that almost never ends because there is always going to be someone who believes something else
Faust
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Heh, I know close to jack-shit about policies too.
Offering asylum to refugees is good and nice and all. And no one is going to call you an ingrate or bigot for that.

However, right now Europe is getting bum-fucked thanks to the sheer amount and rate at which they are literally streaming in, it's unbelievable.
And the fact that the media has had blackouts (Look at Germany) and cover-ups elsewhere on anything that infringes the agenda/image that the migrants are 'just asylum seekers/peaceful immigrants blah blah" is very very sickening.

Greece was already in bad shape, and when they took them in well I'm not sure how to describe it.
Yes a good majority of them are genuinely fleeing for their lives, but I don't think this mixture of misunderstanding and completely short-sighted planning/execution will ever work.

You can only house these people for so long, and in the event they don't ever integrate or contribute to society should they choose to remain there (if any country even allows them unlimited refuge) what can you even do about that.
Some have returned after being disillusioned, since clearly the countries aren't prepared to handle them (some can't stand the food they're literally given for free out of goodwill, among a whole list of 'complaints').


Of course, with the good comes the bad and this is no exception.
Common sense would dictate having just not some sort of border defense/patrol/checkpoint enforcement but a highly reliable and efficient one. (Which, in almost all respects cannot cope)

You want to try to filter whom you can and cannot take in.
And I honestly don't believe it works well as far as 'background' checking goes, I mean these guys are literally from some Middle Eastern country and it's either a yes or no thing when it comes down to it.
Makes sense since you only make an educated discernment/guess at BEST.
How'd you know this dude wasn't just fleeing for real and the next woman is a legit radical who just wants to infiltrate ? Even better if they have a child tagged along.

Not even any room for discrimination excuses here, just simple and clear common sense and pragmatism.
Still the fact remains that once the genuine asylum-seekers actually get there and find out it is NOT what they were expecting/told of what can even be done for these people except ask them to make do, and increasingly at the expense of the economy and more ?
Sandy Hoey
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I cannot speak directly for any of these people, but for those who are honestly trying to seek asylum in the European nations, I think that if they had a choice they would rather stay in their homes. But the problem is that they can't without huge risks due to war.

One example of this is a video that my ethics teacher showed us about the US use of cluster bombs against "terrorists". The problem with these is that if you step on it, you die. It doesn't matter if you are a guy holding a gun or a child running and playing. I think one of the statistics given was the over 80% of those killed from cluster bombs are noncombatants (You can see for yourself: https://vimeo.com/8771101). Which is mind blowing. How are we still using these sorts of tactics when we are achieving these results.

I think that instead of making this huge big fuss about how many people we let into the country, we should be putting focuses on solving these issues that are driving them to emigrate
Faust
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I absolutely agree.
Yeah pretty much bombs have no conscience/mind of their own so yes you get turned into a fine mist of red if you happen to step on a mine or get hit by launched projectiles..

Also yeah the 'focus' is what is driving these people out their own country, the collateral damage (even with strict ROEs mind you, which can only do so much) is frankly scary.

There's no good solution to this, as far as I can see.
I don't know a whole lot, but the basic operating mindset is that you can neither negotiate nor co-exist with these guys who just want you, the person beside you, your family and your dog dead.

This violence will always breed more of it's kind.
I've read a lot of accounts on the war against 'terror' and it's like these extremists have no end to them.

I like to think half of them are actually not so willing to pick up a weapon and shoot it as much as they are just tired, stuck and forced to for their own lives/sakes or perhaps their families sake.
I'm gonna take a guess and say that threats and all that nonsense is a staple recruitment effort especially in the hardest hit areas or where there is most activity since manpower constantly needs to be renewed. (Children have been on the front for a while too and how else would they be there in the first place if not for gross indoctrination/force)
Sandy Hoey
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Faust wrote:

I'm gonna take a guess and say that threats and all that nonsense is a staple recruitment effort especially in the hardest hit areas or where there is most activity since manpower constantly needs to be renewed. (Children have been on the front for a while too and how else would they be there in the first place if not for gross indoctrination/force)
This is completely true. I read an article (don't remember where) that said that poverty does not cause terrorism. Instead, it promotes terrorism since children and families have no other form of work than what is provided by the terrorist organization. Furthermore, the terrorist organization actually have social services like health care to provide to the locals in their areas. This is how they get so much force behind them. The local see the terrorist groups as a sort of big brother or protector and allow to take control.

This is not the first time this happened. It is actually a complete reenactment of the Cold War with the terrorist being communist. The US is trying to stop the spread of influence, but only this time it turned hot very, very quickly.

I would actually be interested in seeing what these radicals believe in, because there is no doubt that they are fighting for a cause that they believe to be worth dying for. And I am almost certain it is not for the reasons that we pin on them (paradise and virgins and all that bullshit)
Faust
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Whatever it is, it's basically a pit you're digging yourself into. Once you start and get far enough you cannot come out.

Also deserters are killed pretty much, provided you don't escape successfully.
Now I've seen reports of fighters getting sick and tired and going back to their countries, and nothing ever since.
Honestly that in itself is a problem both ways in that why allow these people back and why did the cells ever let the men abandon their posts, surely they are hinging on the potential for them to spread the ideology (and what better way than to send back experienced and battle-hardened vets of their shit war?)
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chaee
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yeah ok anyone watch house of cards
Sandy Hoey
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I wasn't talking about how people get stuck in the terrorist groups. I know it work like a gang on steroids. What I meant was what are the fundamental beliefs behind the whole movement. In every fight. both sides believe that they are fighting for the good. What do they believe is the good?

chaee wrote:

yeah ok anyone watch house of cards
No, what is it about?
Faust
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Thought it was obvious.

Take shit literally, and start killing people.
Because why not, apparently your God said you should and you can.
And if any other people disagree, well they're precisely the problem.

On a more serious note, there's probably a fair bit of deception and monopolizing going on as well of course, I mean ISIS actually pays it's fighters and they keep sex slaves. Not breaking news.
Sandy Hoey
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Right I've heard all that, but is that confirmed? Or is just what we place on them to frame them as the bad guys? Is it even the reason they started fighting in the first place? Or is it just what it became? And if that is the case, what was the original cause?

I mean, most people think of Islam and they think of paradise and the 72 virgins (or whatever number). I'm pretty sure that is actually from a "book" it the Quran, but it is one of those that is one of those shady ones where the author is unknown and is not actually part of the belief. I know similar stuff is the the Christian Bible (stuff that is written but not considered in the faith at all because its origins are not reliable)
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Faust
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Hard to say at this point.

I'm gonna go with "I think I am right for believing this and you're all just wrong" but taken to retarded proportions. I'm also probably right.
And yes, there are the equivalent of denominations in Islam as well. You have tons of in-fighting raging till this day.
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Sandy Hoey
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That's always the case.

its been great talking to you. Especially after all the salt that came pouring out of this OP in the beginning. Friending you
Jordan
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balldoowell wrote:

I honestly don't mind trump but I'm not allowed to say that in public or else Ill be called a racist bigot and will be hanged.

#notalltrumpets

I swear, half of the people that hate on trump only do it because its trendy and on the basis of some stupid meme shit like the small loan of a million dollars thing or making mexico build a wall.
Your average person informs themselves on places like CuckFeed and the Huffington Post. I had this kind of problem here in my country too, I said if I were american I'd vote for Trump and the replies I got were "but trump is raysis xDD". Ask them what is racist in wanting to stop illegal immigration from happening and nobody will know what to say.

That said honestly Trump is an asshole and speaks on a hillbilly level but if I had to choose between him, hillary clinton and a commie sjw that basically wants to impoverish the middle class to give more free shit to lazy and uneducated people *cough* oppressed african american youth *cough* I'd choose him. Politics is not about choosing the best, it's about choosing the least bad
Vuelo Eluko
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Faust wrote:

ISIS actually pays it's fighters and they keep sex slaves.
tempting
B1rd
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Khelly wrote:

Oh yes tldr kisses says childhoid/culture affect a person not ethnicity which I agreed to but he wont see my point that ethnicit can be linked to a same culture/upbringing since people homogonise and congregate with similar people in many regions. Suprise, mostly arabs from an arab culture prduce more likeminded arabs. The same for snywhere
Culture is created from the people that make up that culture. Race isn't just skin deep. There's a reason why no Negro society throughout the entire earth has created an advanced civilisation or invented anything of note.
Jordan
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B1rd wrote:

Race isn't just skin deep. There's a reason why no Negro society throughout the entire earth has created an advanced civilisation or invented anything of note.
HOL UP

SaigonAlice
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B1rd wrote:

Culture is created from the people that make up that culture. Race isn't just skin deep. There's a reason why no Negro society throughout the entire earth has created an advanced civilisation or invented anything of note.
tfw white supremacists make this argument but ignore egypt
Jordan
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SaigonAlice wrote:

B1rd wrote:

Culture is created from the people that make up that culture. Race isn't just skin deep. There's a reason why no Negro society throughout the entire earth has created an advanced civilisation or invented anything of note.
tfw white supremacists make this argument but ignore egypt
He said Negro society. Ancient egyptians (and today's egyptians for that matter) are caucasians lol
Foxtrot
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Faust wrote:

ISIS actually pays it's fighters and they keep sex slaves.
Barely.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/19/news/wo ... lary-cuts/

This was a pretty big issue a couple of months back. I wonder if they stabilized their financial issues by now.

Also, ISIS training camps are a joke.
Rurree
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I wouldn't be too surprised if the fighters would consider quitting considering that the conditions of their training camps are dreadful.

Not like they can at all though.
Razzy
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It's time to bring this thread back, because this year is just getting absolutely fucking ridiculous.

The whole San Jose incident is just making me mad as hell, both at the bastards who started the violence (or are defending it because apparently the Trump supporters "deserved it") who have absolutely zero self-awareness, and at the hordes of people blanket-blaming "TEH LIBERALZ" like they do for literally every one of their life problems. It's just continuing the trend of turning a bunch of completely sane people into blathering idiots.

Another gem: /r/the_donald users always say "hurr durr it's not right to compare Trump to Hitler" and then proceed to call Hillary "Hitlery" (although it's usually "Crooked Hillary") and now one of the top /r/all posts compares the violence to Nazi atrocities. And there's more of this from both sides of this stupid election cycle. Why must everyone during this election be humongous hypocrites?

The SJWs fucking with any event hosted by someone they disagree with, the Hillbots in the media constantly fabricating scandals against Trump and still pushing down Bernie like the stuck-up asshats they've always been, the BLM bastards who keep using violence to push others around, the Internet Trump mob supporting a climate change-denying madman whose platform is as flimsy as straw, I'm just about done with all of you. You can all burn in hell, for all I care. I'll be sitting out during the first presidential election I'm eligible for. I know hardly anyone will care about what I say, but I just really need to get this off my chest and unplug myself from American news media for a few days, maybe even a few weeks. This is getting absurd.



I just want a huge fucking meteor to end everything right now tbh
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Yuudachi-kun
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Please don't bring this thread back until president Trump gets officially elected.

Thank.
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Razzy
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Khelly wrote:

Please don't bring this thread back until president Trump gets officially elected.

Thank.
honestly, I agree. I don't want to hear any more about Trump, Hillary, or Bernie at this point
Yuudachi-kun
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Teffammie Maye wrote:

Khelly wrote:

Please don't bring this thread back until president Trump gets officially elected.

Thank.
honestly, I agree. I don't want to hear any more about Trump, Hillary, or Bernie at this point
I like osu mania
roshan117
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i feel like it was a bad idea to bring this thread back
Yuudachi-kun
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roshan117 wrote:

i feel like it was a bad idea to bring this thread back
Your fuckin fault for making it
roshan117
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Khelly wrote:

roshan117 wrote:

i feel like it was a bad idea to bring this thread back
Your fuckin fault for making it
fite me
Railey2
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I think that letting people decide on matters that affect the whole world in a country like the US where a great portion of the population believes that angels are real, is a really really bad idea. Democracy works when the majority is able to educate themselves in an effort to make informed decisions. If this is not the case, which it usually isn't, I don't think that letting people vote is the way to go. I hope they do away with democracy before its too late and replace it with a better system that can overcome the general stupidity. Granted that the US already don't have real democracy as money clearly seems to rule on every level, but you get what I'm saying. It's still too close to democracy to be worthwhile.
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I'm pretty sure the country is doomed with Trump is elected and we'll still be in a shit situation if Hillary is elected.
It's a lose-lose situation.
roshan117
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RoseusJaeger wrote:

I'm pretty sure the country is doomed with Trump is elected and we'll still be in a shit situation if Hillary is elected.
It's a lose-lose situation.
Navizel
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liberals sure are tolerant :^) I love how they promote peace and hate racism :>
Rurree
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RoseusJaeger wrote:

I'm pretty sure the country is doomed with Trump is elected and we'll still be in a shit situation if Hillary is elected.
It's a lose-lose situation.
I agree. You guys are left with such terrible candidates that it's nearly impossible to pick a "worthy" candidate, I guess what the Americans could do is to pick the lesser evil of them all, which honestly for me is Sanders.
Yuudachi-kun
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Your assumption is that Trump isn't a good candidate when he is. We're left with a great one - Trump, a meh one, and a bad one.

Just four more days though until Hillary wins the nomination.
Fourth
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I've been wondering for a while
If Trump actually win. The question is, Will the muslim transfer students from my country will be sent back?
(Just went to Orientation camp last month and saw like 20 of them and each already paid more than 12,000 USD)
Mahogany
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My biggest problem with Trump is his vocal supporters

/r/TheDonald is why I can't stand /r/All anymore. Is there a way to ignore subreddits?
Railey2
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r/TheDonald was originally a parody subreddit that made fun of Trumps followership, then more and more idiot trump-supporters joined and now nobody knows if its still parody or if its the reality they made fun of in the start
Yuudachi-kun
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Railey2 wrote:

r/TheDonald was originally a parody subreddit that made fun of Trumps followership, then more and more idiot trump-supporters joined and now nobody knows if its still parody or if its the reality they made fun of in the start
Do you have a source on that or are you pulling it out of your ass

Fourth wrote:

I've been wondering for a while
If Trump actually win. The question is, Will the muslim transfer students from my country will be sent back?
(Just went to Orientation camp last month and saw like 20 of them and each already paid more than 12,000 USD)
Are they here illegally? If no, then no.
Railey2
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Khelly wrote:

Railey2 wrote:

r/TheDonald was originally a parody subreddit that made fun of Trumps followership, then more and more idiot trump-supporters joined and now nobody knows if its still parody or if its the reality they made fun of in the start
Do you have a source on that or are you pulling it out of your ass
Pulling it out on my ass. Its actually a real sub from what I've heard, but the lines are pretty blurred here and there. A huge portion of the subscribers are just there to bait and troll real supporters, give that the whole of reddit tilts more to the left.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/c ... he_donald/

just go over the top posts in the sub. It's definitely a mix of both parody and genuine support when you read the comment sections. Also memes. Lots and lots of memes. But its less parody and more genuine from what I've seen.
Navizel
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>Visiting reddit
>at all

also a reminder
Rurree
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I remember that moment and it was laughable and stupid, it took him 20 seconds too.

Well, Trump himself is a hypocrite though.




I'm no libtard nor a conservative. Just saying that I wish Americans could clear their own minds and vote for themselves. Listen to Trump, Sanders, Clinton (but please for the love of God do not vote for this stinker) and not their supporters, then make up your own mind. I can understand how people would like to vote for Trump as he's a very ambitious president that has tore down the status quo.

Personally, for me he's just a self-absorbed narcissist who will say anything to sway the minds of Americans with his generalized promises. He's already endangered the relationship between the USA and Mexico and he has already alienated the Pope. What more could he do once he sits in the Oval Office? I can't seem to appreciate also a guy who has publicly supported authoritarian regimes e.g. the Tienanmen Square massacre, "Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength." The man thinks rolling tanks over student protesters is how you show strength. I just can't bring myself to show support for a man with an aura of tyranny, not like it matters though. This is just my own opinion though, I'm not really interested in firing back. :p

The Trump subreddit did make a good list of Trump's platform though, props to them, even if it's filled with.. you know, the usual crap.
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Rurree wrote:

I remember that moment and it was laughable and stupid, it took him 20 seconds too.

Well, Trump himself is a hypocrite though.




I'm no libtard nor a conservative. Just saying that I wish Americans could clear their own minds and vote for themselves. Listen to Trump, Sanders, Clinton (but please for the love of God do not vote for this stinker) and not their supporters, then make up your own mind. I can understand how people would like to vote for Trump as he's a very ambitious president that has tore down the status quo.

Personally, for me he's just a self-absorbed narcissist who will say anything to sway the minds of Americans with his generalized promises. He's already endangered the relationship between the USA and Mexico and he has already alienated the Pope. What more could he do once he sits in the Oval Office? I can't seem to appreciate also a guy who has publicly supported authoritarian regimes e.g. the Tienanmen Square massacre, "Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength." The man thinks rolling tanks over student protesters is how you show strength. I just can't bring myself to show support for a man with an aura of tyranny, not like it matters though. This is just my own opinion though, I'm not really interested in firing back. :p

The Trump subreddit did make a good list of Trump's platform though, props to them, even if it's filled with.. you know, the usual crap.
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roshan117
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RoseusJaeger wrote:

Rurree wrote:

I remember that moment and it was laughable and stupid, it took him 20 seconds too.

Well, Trump himself is a hypocrite though.




I'm no libtard nor a conservative. Just saying that I wish Americans could clear their own minds and vote for themselves. Listen to Trump, Sanders, Clinton (but please for the love of God do not vote for this stinker) and not their supporters, then make up your own mind. I can understand how people would like to vote for Trump as he's a very ambitious president that has tore down the status quo.

Personally, for me he's just a self-absorbed narcissist who will say anything to sway the minds of Americans with his generalized promises. He's already endangered the relationship between the USA and Mexico and he has already alienated the Pope. What more could he do once he sits in the Oval Office? I can't seem to appreciate also a guy who has publicly supported authoritarian regimes e.g. the Tienanmen Square massacre, "Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength." The man thinks rolling tanks over student protesters is how you show strength. I just can't bring myself to show support for a man with an aura of tyranny, not like it matters though. This is just my own opinion though, I'm not really interested in firing back. :p

The Trump subreddit did make a good list of Trump's platform though, props to them, even if it's filled with.. you know, the usual crap.
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Railey2
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well, running students over with tanks is quite an extraordinary display of strength if you ask me. In the very literal sense of the word anways.
hapiPlonz
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hapiPlonz
Bernies out so basically you're all fucked,
its down to the lady and the orange now.
piruchan
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Oh this thread is still alive?

I don't follow American politics, but Hillary seems like that annoying grandma who thinks she's always right and knows everything even though she doesn't.
Razzy
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california rest in peace

time for all the hillary supporters to cry "internalized misogyny!" at everyone who didn't settle for their "but don't you get it? it's OUR time! *head rotates 360 degrees and starts projectile vomiting*" narrative
Endie-
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If its Trump vs Hillary, I would pick Hillary
Vuelo Eluko
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Endie- wrote:

If its Trump vs Hillary, I would pick Hillary
spoken like a true foreigner who doesn't truly understand either candidate
at the end of the day both options are trash we just need the one who is going to have the least success changing things

and right now that one is trump
Lacrimae_old
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Teffammie Maye wrote:

time for all the hillary supporters to cry "internalized misogyny!" at everyone who didn't settle for their "but don't you get it? it's OUR time! *head rotates 360 degrees and starts projectile vomiting*" narrative
can't wait for shillary to lose
Rurree
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reasons to vote for hilliery 2016

- she has a taco

Sure, Trump may be outspoken, but Hilliery has literally killed people with her stupidity.

I'd honestly rather not vote between the two, good thing I'm nowhere near the US nor in the required age to do so.
roshan117
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Rurree wrote:

reasons to vote for hilliery 2016

- she has a taco

Sure, Trump may be outspoken, but Hilliery has literally killed people with her stupidity.

I'd honestly rather not vote between the two, good thing I'm nowhere near the US nor in the required age to do so.
yeah good thing

i know its good to have the voting age be 18, but its kinda scary to see all of this go on hhaving no control over it
Isshiki Kaname
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Just adding the gasoline into the flame;

Americal election are absoulte garbage curcus.
Like, Trump resembles our Russian Zhirinovskiy.
Razzy
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Fizzn wrote:

Just adding the gasoline into the flame;

Americal election are absoulte garbage curcus.
Like, Trump resembles our Russian Zhirinovskiy.
If the Philippines elected Duterte, the US can definitely elect Trump
Yuudachi-kun
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Trump is the second coming of Ronald Reagan.
Navizel
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DeletedUser_6709840
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Khelly wrote:

Trump is the second coming of Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan was trash, imo
_Latte
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_Latte
Trump: Dim-witted, arrogant, and has no idea what he is doing. (Didn't even know what the nuclear triad was >_>)
Hillary: Manipulative, a liar and criminal. My two cents for her: Go home. You do not belong in the running, nor do you deserve to be here at all.
Sanders: Socialist. (Feel the Bern)

Imo, they're all bad. I would rather vote for Bush, Cruz, or Rubio. But they dropped out. Oh well.
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Lollipop860 wrote:

Trump: Dim-witted, arrogant, and has no idea what he is doing. (Didn't even know what the nuclear triad was >_>)
Hillary: Manipulative, a liar and criminal. My two cents for her: Go home. You do not belong in the running, nor do you deserve to be here at all.
Sanders: Socialist. (Feel the Bern)

Imo, they're all bad. I would rather vote for Bush, Cruz, or Rubio. But they dropped out. Oh well.

How is socialism bad? Are you confusing democratic socialism with national socialism?
Razzy
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Razzy

RoseusJaeger wrote:

Lollipop860 wrote:

Trump: Dim-witted, arrogant, and has no idea what he is doing. (Didn't even know what the nuclear triad was >_>)
Hillary: Manipulative, a liar and criminal. My two cents for her: Go home. You do not belong in the running, nor do you deserve to be here at all.
Sanders: Socialist. (Feel the Bern)

Imo, they're all bad. I would rather vote for Bush, Cruz, or Rubio. But they dropped out. Oh well.

How is socialism bad? Are you confusing democratic socialism with national socialism?
probably thinking of Venezuela tbh

it's almost as if having an economy >50% dependent on oil (in terms of GDP) during a drop in oil prices isn't something any governmental system, socialism included, can solve instantly
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It makes me sad the schools don't educate the public enough on government so we have informed voters once they're adults.
_handholding
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_handholding
someone remind me to shave my armpits
Navizel
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Navizel
ayy lmao

roshan117
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Topic Starter
roshan117

Navizel wrote:

ayy lmao

u know your country is bad when ur candidates act like children online
Razzy
256 posts
Joined January 2016
Razzy

roshan117 wrote:

Navizel wrote:

ayy lmao

u know your country is bad when ur candidates act like children online
the only good things that came out of this were the "Inspect Element" edits

let's hope they keep this up, it's not like America can look any more ridiculous now
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As savage as that response is, it still proves Trump is an incompetent man child.
Vuelo Eluko
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i wouldnt say he's a manchild. he understands people, and how to appeal to them, just not politics. If everyone who wasn't qualified or didn't have the experience to hold a high ranking public office was considered a manchild we'd be fucked
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xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

i wouldnt say he's a manchild. he understands people, and how to appeal to them, just not politics. If everyone who wasn't qualified or didn't have the experience to hold a high ranking public office was considered a manchild we'd be fucked
He isn't qualified and all he knows is how to manipulate people into believe his lies. Same with Hillary.
Vuelo Eluko
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i think he genuinely believes a lot of the shit he says, he just doesn't realize he isn't going to be able to do any of it.

thats why we should vote for him, as little change as possible is the best option right now with bernie out of the race
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Yuudachi-kun
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Yuudachi-kun
The "no candidate is ever good" circlejerk is fun to read
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xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

i think he genuinely believes a lot of the shit he says, he just doesn't realize he isn't going to be able to do any of it.

thats why we should vote for him, as little change as possible is the best option right now with bernie out of the race
I don't think he realizes that some of his views on race and foreign policy are gonna end us up sooner into WW3 as well.
roshan117
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roshan117

RoseusJaeger wrote:

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

i think he genuinely believes a lot of the shit he says, he just doesn't realize he isn't going to be able to do any of it.

thats why we should vote for him, as little change as possible is the best option right now with bernie out of the race
I don't think he realizes that some of his views on race and foreign policy are gonna end us up sooner into WW3 as well.
Joshiraku_old
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i will be the next president.
Mogsy
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Joshiraku wrote:

i will be the next president.
what is ur platform
will u buy me a latte
Joshiraku_old
Joshiraku_old
my platform is no unfunny memes
Mogsy
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Mogsy

Joshiraku wrote:

my platform is no unfunny memes
ur hired
roshan117
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roshan117

Joshiraku wrote:

my platform is no unfunny memes
but what else will i share at 2 in the morning?!
DeletedUser_6709840
DeletedUser_6709840

Joshiraku wrote:

my platform is no unfunny memes
decent enough
roshan117
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roshan117
vote4me pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
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roshan117 wrote:

vote4me pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
No dank enough
Rurree
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Rurree
Roshan

Pros: Not Hillary/Trump
Cons: Roshan, unfunny

Trump
Pros: Not Hillary/Roshan
Cons: Trump

Hillary
Pros: Not Trump/Roshan
Cons: Hillary
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xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

i think he genuinely believes a lot of the shit he says, he just doesn't realize he isn't going to be able to do any of it.

thats why we should vote for him, as little change as possible is the best option right now with bernie out of the race
I don't know what you think he says that is untrue, but all he says is part of his strategy to get more publicity. All of the shit he said previously was to win the republican convention, now that he has you can bet he will change his tune to appeal to the majority. Trump is quite literally a genius.

Any Bernie supporter is a braindead idealist, and they should go live in Venezuela because that's already their socialist paradise; free healthcare, free schooling, cripplingly high taxes for da ebil corporations, high unemployment, constant shortages of food and necessities and a massive national debt. Basically everything you get with a socialist economy. Completely unsustainable.
Stick2Glue
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Rurree wrote:

Roshan

Pros: Not Hillary/Trump
Cons: Roshan, unfunny

Trump
Pros: Not Hillary/Roshan
Cons: Trump

Hillary
Pros: Not Trump/Roshan
Cons: Hillary
Simplest, yet most concise summary ever
Razzy
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Razzy
holy shit, this analogy is too good to pass up

@cushbomb, on a weekly podcast called Chapo Trap House, wrote:

I have realized that this campaign -- the closest analogue I can think of is, in the 1930s there was a psychologist named Harry Harlow, who did a series of experiments to find out what the source of a child's appreciation of their parents was.

So he set up a tank with infant Rhesus monkeys, and he gave them two mother figures. One of them was just a bare wire structure, but it also contained inside it the milk the monkey needed to live. The other one didn't have any milk, but it was covered in carpeting to give the monkey solace, and the rest was to find out which one the preferred -- was he just going for the one where the food was, or was he looking for something more?

And, for our purposes, let's just say that the Trump campaign is the carpet mother, and the carpet is the hair, and the wire mother is Hillary, and the milk bottle is non-refundable tax credits and Beyoncé .gifs.

Now, it doesn't really matter for our purposes which the monkeys preferred, but I think what's important to remember is that in the actual experiment, the monkeys, who for our purposes are the American electorate, ALL WENT INSANE. They all went fucking insane, and then died.
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B1rd wrote:

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

i think he genuinely believes a lot of the shit he says, he just doesn't realize he isn't going to be able to do any of it.

thats why we should vote for him, as little change as possible is the best option right now with bernie out of the race
I don't know what you think he says that is untrue, but all he says is part of his strategy to get more publicity. All of the shit he said previously was to win the republican convention, now that he has you can bet he will change his tune to appeal to the majority. Trump is quite literally a genius.

Any Bernie supporter is a braindead idealist, and they should go live in Venezuela because that's already their socialist paradise; free healthcare, free schooling, cripplingly high taxes for da ebil corporations, high unemployment, constant shortages of food and necessities and a massive national debt. Basically everything you get with a socialist economy. Completely unsustainable.
just because it hasn't been applied correctly in Venezuela doesnt mean it doesn't work

and brown people NEVER get any form of government right

i could use a brown country as an example of why every system of government is a disaster
roshan117
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Rurree wrote:

Roshan

Pros: Not Hillary/Trump
Cons: Roshan, unfunny

Trump
Pros: Not Hillary/Roshan
Cons: Trump

Hillary
Pros: Not Trump/Roshan
Cons: Hillary
pretty much
_handholding
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_handholding
Funny how shitposter is the first thing that comes to some ppl's mind when they think of roshan yet he has a 400+ post thread, and still active
Mahogany
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Mahogany
I would literally elect Roshan before either Trump or Hillary
B1rd
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xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

just because it hasn't been applied correctly in Venezuela doesnt mean it doesn't work

and brown people NEVER get any form of government right

i could use a brown country as an example of why every system of government is a disaster
Brown people don't create any good forms of government in the first place either. Socialism is a fundamentally flawed concept, has been tried many times throughout history and fails every time. Because it funnels resources away from the smart productive people to the dumb people. It doesn't reduce poverty because it just allows dumb people to breed more dumb people dependent on welfare, and has a dysgenic effect on society. Poverty in America was falling at a constant rate before the introduction of welfare. Just imagine the nigger population in America if there was no welfare, and the resulting improvement in the economy, public order and crime rates.

The best forms of government are always based on capitalism and the free market.
E m i
E m i

B1rd wrote:

The best forms of government are always based on anarcho-capitalism and the free market.
he he fix'd
B1rd
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B1rd
You got it.
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
trump trumps over all
Clyde
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Clyde

chaee wrote:

canada #1
You have to admit Canada has is fair share of problems too. We take from other country's and give almost nothing back! The economy is pretty bad too. It is a nice country but no country is perfect! 8-) :D
Mahogany
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Mahogany
Canada is one of only 3 countries I could actually see myself wanting to live in
Clyde
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Clyde
It is complete and utter trash utter trash. I fear for my generation if trump is elected. He will probably want to build a dome around america so no one can visit! It will also cause the surrounding country's to either flee or take matters into their own hands. Trump is arrogant and Hilary tries to act hip for the younger voters. If trump id elected it will be democracy's biggest flops!
_handholding
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Mahogany wrote:

Canada is one of only 3 countries I could actually see myself wanting to live in
They dont have pony porn there
Mahogany
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Mahogany
I legit don't know how to respond to that
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