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17:37 Spork Lover: 00:22:119 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) -
17:37 Spork Lover: Song doesn't go in 1/1's here
17:37 Spork Lover:
17:37 Spork Lover: The vocal sounds off compared to what you mapped here (beginner)
17:39 Asonate: yeah, i know
17:39 Asonate: i still gotta ask a bn about that, but i cant map the 1/2 rhythm in a beginner
17:39 Spork Lover: 01:10:119 (1,2) - could benefit from being two sliders instead, since you start on an off-tick
17:39 Asonate: not with 190 bpm
17:39 Asonate: so the singles are fillernotes
17:39 Spork Lover: Maybe just make the sliders longer
17:39 Spork Lover: In that section
17:39 Spork Lover:
17:40 Spork Lover: Lemme try to make a timeline section
17:40 Asonate: the second is is kinda important since i dont have a synth on the 3rd white tick
17:40 Asonate: its again a 3/4 rhythm
17:42 Spork Lover: Hmm
17:44 Spork Lover: Yeah that's a hard pattern to map on a beginner
17:44 Spork Lover: I donno
17:44 Spork Lover: But I'd assume the long sliders would be the way to go
17:44 Asonate: yeah
17:44 Spork Lover: 'Cause when you play it, you hit everything too late
17:44 Asonate: ill leave them in the "ask bn" list
17:45 Spork Lover: Yeah good idea
17:45 Asonate: or wait, i can do something for the 1st thing
17:45 Spork Lover: 00:18:014 (2,1,2,3,4) - Pretty scary diff spike
17:45 Spork Lover: lol
17:45 Asonate: i like to live dangerously
17:45 Spork Lover: That part alone amps up the diff by 0,15
17:45 Spork Lover: xD
17:45 Asonate: this is one ill let a bn shoot down
17:45 Asonate: i need these stars
17:46 Spork Lover: Haha fair enough
17:46 Asonate: i dont wanna have to map a normal and an easy xD
17:46 Spork Lover: 00:54:961 (1,2) -
17:46 Spork Lover: I'd start with a slider instead (same length)
17:46 Spork Lover: And THEN add the single tap
17:46 Spork Lover: Because you're starting the slider on an off-tick
17:47 Spork Lover: 00:57:487 (1,2) -
17:47 Spork Lover: Same here
17:47 Asonate: yeah, ill do that
17:47 Spork Lover: 01:00:014 (1,2,1,2) - Here it's not as bad, but you could consider it if you want
17:48 Spork Lover: 01:08:856 (1,2) - For more playability, either a reverse or 3 single taps
17:48 Spork Lover: And maybe do a small curve on 01:08:224 (3,1) - for some discreet blankets
17:49 Spork Lover: 01:11:382 (1) - Instead of this slider, do like you did at 01:01:277 (1,2) - if you wanted to keep that
17:49 Asonate: the thing is, the last one fits much better
17:50 Asonate: i was there, believe me
17:50 Spork Lover: Is 01:35:382 - to 01:48:014 not mapped on all diffs?
17:50 Asonate: but the single feels pretty, well, useless
17:50 Spork Lover: Agreed
17:50 Asonate: yeah, not mapped on all
17:50 Spork Lover: The long slider flows better than the single tap into slider pattern
17:50 Spork Lover: Ok then I won't comment on that
17:50 Asonate: i think contract and rikis extra are the only ones that have that
17:50 Spork Lover: Erm
17:51 Spork Lover: Yeah that's totally fine
17:51 Asonate: since these two are on a level where the player should be able to have some stamina left
17:51 Spork Lover: Exactly
17:51 Spork Lover: It's completely rankable like that
17:52 Spork Lover: Aren't the combo colors a little bright for the BG?
17:52 Spork Lover: Pink doesn't feel like the best choise for example
17:52 Asonate: they are bright like that since the bg is pretty dark
17:52 Spork Lover: Hmm
17:52 Asonate: and with dim they are readable as well
17:52 Spork Lover: Most circles have a white line around them anyway
17:52 Spork Lover: So it's normally not really a problem
17:53 Asonate: yeah, i get pink, but idk, these colours are in the SB visualizer as well
17:53 Asonate: and they fit weirdly well
17:53 Spork Lover: Aight
17:53 Spork Lover: I think that's it for the beginner for now
17:53 Spork Lover: There might be some blankets and patterns, that could be different maybe
17:54 Asonate: wait real quick, applying the last icing :3
17:54 Spork Lover: Aight <3
17:54 Spork Lover: 00:56:224 (1,2,3) - Could be changed into a triangle pattern etc etc
17:54 Spork Lover: Like, there are a lot of options
17:54 Spork Lover: 00:56:540 (2,3,1) -
17:54 Spork Lover: Even though this already is lel
17:54 Spork Lover: But yeah
17:54 Asonate: the pattern i have with the singletaps
17:54 Spork Lover: There might be things that are possible to change
17:55 Asonate: the horizontal movement
17:55 Asonate: is a pattern i developed, youre gonna see it a lot in EXHAUST
17:55 Spork Lover: Yeah I'll look at that
17:55 Asonate: its a pattern that flows really well in all difficulties, Singularity has that as well
17:56 Spork Lover: I'm looking forward to it :3
17:56 Asonate: alright, fixed the very first thing now xD
17:57 Asonate: made the repeats longer by 1/4
17:57 Asonate: so they end on the 1/2
17:57 Spork Lover: Yeah that sounds like a good idea
17:57 Asonate: and still dont have 1/2 singles \o/
17:57 Spork Lover: Just tell me when you're ready for the EXHAUST :3
17:57 Spork Lover: OH YEEE
17:58 Asonate: alright, im ready
17:58 Spork Lover: Aight
17:59 Spork Lover: 00:30:487 -
17:59 Spork Lover: The AAAAAAH sound starts somewhere around here
17:59 Spork Lover: And not on the white tick
17:59 Spork Lover: x)
17:59 Asonate: yes
17:59 Asonate: that
17:59 Asonate: is
17:59 Asonate: gonna
18:00 Asonate: be though
18:00 Spork Lover: Yeah
18:00 Spork Lover: But it shouldn't be ignored imo
18:00 Spork Lover: 'Cause it feels off when playing
18:00 Asonate: i think ill put that on the "ask BN" list
18:00 Asonate: then i wont
18:00 Spork Lover: Good idea xD
18:00 Asonate: LETS FIX THIS
18:00 Spork Lover: 00:31:593 (1,2,3) -
18:00 Spork Lover: You did some fun kicksliders at the start
18:01 Spork Lover: Do you think they could fit somewhere here?
18:02 Spork Lover: 00:44:145 (2,1,2,1) -
18:02 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:02 Spork Lover: There's something that feels weird
18:02 Spork Lover: Probably the fact that the doubles in the music aren't all that audible to me
18:03 Asonate: they are super audible for me lol
18:03 Spork Lover: Lemme turn up my music 1 sec lol
18:04 Spork Lover: 00:51:172 (1) -
18:04 Spork Lover: The music allows for waaaay more than this
18:04 Spork Lover: There's even a 1/8 or 1/16 note section
18:04 Spork Lover: So maybe some kicksliders instead in certain sections would fit
18:04 Asonate: yes
18:04 Asonate: but this is 3.8 stars
18:05 Asonate: and the specific slider you linked is the one i like the most in that map xD
18:05 Spork Lover: Lol fair enough xD
18:05 Spork Lover: Forget I said dat >:D
18:05 Spork Lover: haha
18:05 Spork Lover: 00:58:119 (1,2) -
18:05 Asonate: lol
18:06 Spork Lover: Extended sliders would be fucking gorgeous here
18:06 Spork Lover: The music is extending its notes
18:06 Asonate: weeeeeeeeell
18:06 Asonate: concerning 1/4 stuff
18:06 Asonate: i overlap them
18:06 Asonate: and that would rip this pattern
18:07 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:07 Spork Lover: 01:08:224 (1,1) -
18:07 Spork Lover: You could do it a bit like you did here
18:07 Asonate: also, they aren extended, synths are 3/4 again
18:07 Spork Lover: Or something similar
18:07 Asonate: as always xD
18:07 Spork Lover: Just with 3 sliders with no reverse
18:07 Spork Lover: To me that would fit really well
18:08 Spork Lover: But it's just a suggestion, to interpret it as you want to
18:08 Spork Lover:
18:08 Spork Lover: 01:09:487 (1) -
18:08 Spork Lover: A lot of NC spam, consider removing this NC
18:08 Spork Lover: 01:12:014 (1) -
18:08 Asonate: got something
18:08 Asonate: on the slider thingy before
18:08 Spork Lover: And dat
18:08 Asonate: extended first one, second stays
18:08 Spork Lover: 01:13:277 (1) -
18:09 Asonate: with that i hit everything :3
18:09 Spork Lover: Nice, sounds good!
18:09 Spork Lover: I definitely think it'll flow a lot better
18:09 Spork Lover: btw about the audible stuff
18:10 Spork Lover: I agree now
18:10 Spork Lover: lol
18:10 Asonate: well, no nc spam really
18:10 Asonate: lol
18:10 Asonate: since i put 1 nc every downbeat xD
18:10 Spork Lover: Fair enough xD
18:10 Spork Lover: It still might be a liiittle too much xD
18:10 Spork Lover: But who am I to judge xD
18:10 Spork Lover: I'd maybe improve HP drain to compensate
18:10 Asonate: adding to "whenever qualified, expect a raging QAT" thing :^)
18:11 Spork Lover: Exactly lmfao xD
18:11 Spork Lover: 01:25:593 (2,1,2,1,2) -
18:11 Spork Lover: This pattern is really fun
18:11 Asonate: :^)
18:11 Asonate: didnt have many options with that one xD
18:11 Asonate: this one*
18:11 Spork Lover: Nope xD
18:11 Asonate: fk english
18:12 Spork Lover: *Tries to type in German*
18:12 Spork Lover: *Realises that I suck*
18:12 Spork Lover: Erm
18:12 Spork Lover: I think that's it for the EXHAUST
18:12 Spork Lover: Pretty solid imo
18:12 Asonate: glad to hear!
18:13 Asonate: well, not that i could do dutch any better xxD
18:13 Spork Lover: 01:09:487 (1) - Super nazi, but maybe rework the shape a bit xD
18:13 Asonate: all i know is watermelon
18:13 Spork Lover: I don't speak dutch lol
18:13 Spork Lover: I'm Danish
18:13 Spork Lover: xD
18:13 Asonate: = watermill :^)
18:13 Asonate: fk
18:13 Asonate: me
18:13 Asonate: what do you speak then?
18:13 Spork Lover: I just happen to be in the Netherlands
18:13 Spork Lover: I'm from Denmark xD
18:13 Spork Lover: I speak Danish :3
18:13 Asonate: o
18:13 Spork Lover: Yeee brah
18:13 Spork Lover: My dad lives in the Netherlands
18:13 Asonate: i though denmark was dutch lol
18:14 Spork Lover: Nope
18:14 Asonate: the more you know
18:14 Spork Lover: Netherlands is dutch
18:14 Spork Lover: Denmark is Danish
18:14 Spork Lover: >:D
18:14 Spork Lover: Time for contract
18:14 Spork Lover: ;ooooo
18:14 Asonate: Austria is german >:D
18:14 Spork Lover: Yup >:D
18:14 Asonate: GET THE WEEEEEEEED
18:14 Spork Lover: LOL
18:14 *Asonate runs
18:14 Spork Lover: I don't even think we can
18:14 Spork Lover: *Cries*
18:14 Spork Lover: Foreigners aren't allowed
18:14 Spork Lover:
18:15 Asonate: rip me
18:15 Spork Lover: 00:02:224 (1,2,3,4) - Either change the pattern around or gradually increase spacing or something similar
18:15 Spork Lover: imo it doesn't play too well
18:15 Spork Lover: 00:03:487 (5,6,7,8) - This flows better
18:16 Spork Lover: 00:04:119 (9) - Remember that the slider end is on the start of a new segment
18:16 Asonate: gonna have to decline that ;w;
18:16 Asonate: yeah it is
18:16 Asonate: but the first hitsound of the map is a spinner
18:16 Asonate: the intro is pretty weird
18:16 Spork Lover: True
18:16 Spork Lover: xD
18:16 Spork Lover: Yeah it is x)
18:16 Spork Lover: 00:06:856 (3) -
18:16 Spork Lover: You even did it here haha
18:17 Asonate: i like to live dangerously :^)
18:17 Spork Lover: 00:11:066 (7) - NC, since the other two triples have it
18:17 Spork Lover: <3
18:17 Asonate: done
18:18 Spork Lover: 00:31:593 (1,2,3,4) - I'd create a jump pattern with emphasized beats instead, since it doesn't feel like that when it doesn't have turn
18:18 Spork Lover: turns*
18:18 Spork Lover: It doesn't have to look like the next pattern at all
18:18 Asonate: btw, this diff or exhaust
18:19 Asonate: which do you think is older?
18:19 Spork Lover: This I think
18:19 Spork Lover: xD
18:19 Spork Lover: Got no idea tho
18:19 Asonate: yes
18:19 Spork Lover: The exhaust feels a lot more polished imo
18:19 Spork Lover: 00:31:593 (1,2,3,4) -
18:19 Spork Lover: I'll make a suggestion to this
18:19 Asonate: well, the reason for these notes not being angled that much is because i want a rather calm buildup
18:19 Asonate: in that sense
18:20 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:20 Asonate: dont quite know how to put it haha
18:20 Spork Lover: I get it x)
18:20 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4777760
18:20 Spork Lover: I was thinking something along these lines
18:21 Spork Lover: Doesn't have to be like dat tho
18:21 Asonate: i feel like thats way too high ;w;
18:21 Spork Lover: Fair enough
18:21 Spork Lover: 00:38:540 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:22 Spork Lover: On this, I'd make two kicksliders that curve a bit and a single tap
18:22 Spork Lover: It adds flow
18:22 Spork Lover: So it doesn't consist of only single taps
18:22 Asonate: hmmm
18:22 Spork Lover: And it also adds some variety that way
18:22 Asonate: thats a good one
18:22 Spork Lover: ^^
18:22 Asonate: contradicts the "gimmick" of the map a bit
18:22 Asonate: gotta see
18:22 Spork Lover: You can play around with it, see what works for you
18:23 Spork Lover:
18:23 Asonate: the, lets call it, "speciality" of this diff is that it is supposed to be a stamina challenge
18:23 Asonate: thats why there is a lack of sliders
18:23 Spork Lover: It's a bit like Night of Knights
18:23 Spork Lover: Just faster
18:23 Spork Lover: And a bit less spaced
18:23 Spork Lover: >:D
18:23 Asonate: 00:21:645 (1) - this part alone is really though to get through
18:23 Asonate: lol
18:24 Spork Lover: 00:25:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) -
18:24 Spork Lover: Yeah
18:24 Spork Lover: Stuff like this cramps your fingers
18:24 Spork Lover: But it feels good if you nail it
18:24 Spork Lover: >:D
18:24 Asonate: yeah
18:24 Spork Lover: 00:43:277 (7,8) -
18:24 Asonate: i took ages to clear that
18:24 Spork Lover: I'd relocate those to...
18:24 Asonate: still cant pass consistantly
18:24 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4777787
18:25 Spork Lover: And ctrl+j the slider
18:25 Spork Lover: Sorry ctrl´h
18:25 Spork Lover: *
18:25 Spork Lover: And then relocate the other stuff a bit so it plays
18:25 Asonate: hmmm
18:25 Spork Lover: 00:51:409 (2,3,4) -
18:25 Spork Lover: NC all of these since it's 3/4
18:25 Asonate: i could just move 7 down and it works?
18:26 Spork Lover: Yeah maybe
18:26 Spork Lover: 00:52:119 (5) -
18:26 Spork Lover: Place it in the middle of the sliders
18:26 Spork Lover: "Circle blanket"
18:26 Asonate: were gonna exit with 7 stars boiz :^)
18:26 Spork Lover: >:D
18:26 Asonate: had that before, yeah
18:27 Spork Lover: 00:54:014 (4,7,10) -
18:27 Asonate: it played worse than that, now it follows the triangular decreasing pattern
18:27 Spork Lover: 1/3, consider NC'ing
18:27 Spork Lover: Those 3 notes
18:27 Asonate: qyeah
18:27 Asonate: did that
18:27 Asonate: now comes the fun part
18:28 Spork Lover: Haha
18:28 Spork Lover: 00:56:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
18:28 Spork Lover: Holy shit
18:28 Spork Lover: lol
18:28 Spork Lover: Fun af
18:28 Spork Lover: xD
18:28 Asonate: I was so hoping youd like those
18:28 Spork Lover: 00:57:487 (1) -
18:28 Asonate: I prayed to god
18:28 Spork Lover: This I'd place a bit further down
18:29 Spork Lover: So it's kind of a "half" overlap
18:29 Asonate: i can go a bit down
18:29 Asonate: i still want it to stack a bit tho
18:29 Spork Lover: Since the map is gimmicky, half overlaps would work
18:29 Spork Lover: Or something similar
18:29 Asonate: did something
18:29 Spork Lover: 01:02:224 (6,7,8,9) -
18:29 Asonate: stacked it about 1/3
18:29 Spork Lover: Holy shit that takes some serious aim
18:29 Spork Lover: Dayum
18:29 *Asonate expects rage
18:29 Asonate: whew
18:30 Asonate: saved
18:30 Asonate: they are doable do
18:30 Asonate: confirmed by 15k scrub aka me
18:30 Spork Lover: Just a sec
18:30 Spork Lover:
18:30 Asonate: btw, that stream is the same pattern the singles had in exhaust
18:34 Spork Lover: I'm gonna stop the mod in like 10 minutes
18:34 Spork Lover: But that seems like enough time
18:34 Spork Lover: Need to help family in a bit :3
18:34 Asonate: should be
18:34 Asonate: sure, no worries
18:34 Spork Lover: Aight let's continue
18:34 Spork Lover: 01:03:803 (1,2) -
18:34 Spork Lover: Hmm 1/8? D:
18:34 Asonate: 01:11:066 (2,3,4,5) - you said something about aim :^)
18:34 Asonate: somehow i find that evne easier lol
18:35 Spork Lover: Yeah it wasn't a problem, but I just wasn't to say dayum, aim
18:35 Spork Lover: just wanted*
18:35 Spork Lover: 01:05:066 (1,2,3) -
18:35 Asonate: thats a good question
18:35 Asonate: why is that
18:35 Asonate: 1/8
18:35 Asonate: i have no idea
18:35 Asonate: ill just make it disappear lol
18:35 Spork Lover: You can create more high diff stuff with this
18:35 Spork Lover: Instead of 3 1/2 sliders
18:36 Spork Lover: The first slider is fine
18:36 Spork Lover: But there should at least be a triple
18:36 Spork Lover: Somewhere
18:36 Spork Lover: x)
18:36 Spork Lover: 01:11:382 (1) -
18:36 Spork Lover: 01:11:224 (4) -
18:36 Spork Lover: Not same distance from 5
18:36 Spork Lover: Could be a problem
18:37 Spork Lover: 01:20:540 (1,2,3,4) - I like NC's on 1/3 patterns <3
18:37 Spork Lover: 01:22:435 (10) - NC, again 1/3 stuff lol
18:38 Spork Lover: 01:20:856 (4,2,4,6,8,10) -
18:38 Spork Lover: All of these should be NC's imo
18:38 Asonate: sorry, i tried
18:38 Asonate: but i feel like a triple doesnt fit here ;w;
18:38 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:38 Spork Lover: Some double patterns instead?
18:39 Spork Lover: 01:33:565 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
18:39 Spork Lover: It's fine like this, but the turn makes it very hard to pull off
18:39 Spork Lover: (The turn at 01:33:487 (1) - )
18:40 Spork Lover: 01:42:645 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) -
18:40 Spork Lover: Think all of this is ok
18:40 Spork Lover:
18:40 Asonate: yeah, ive been thinking about remapping that stream
18:40 Asonate: similar to
18:40 Asonate: 01:13:435 (9) -
18:40 Asonate: this
18:40 Spork Lover: Yeah
18:40 Asonate: then again, i wanna be mean here
18:40 Asonate: CORPSES MUST FALL
18:40 Spork Lover: LOL
18:41 Spork Lover: Some mappers love corpses
18:41 Spork Lover: Like Pomuta's Ryoushi map
18:41 Spork Lover: My god
18:41 Spork Lover: I wanna kill myself when I play it
18:41 Spork Lover: But it's so good at the same time
18:41 Spork Lover: lol
18:41 Asonate: lol
18:41 Asonate: you didnt even play my maps yet :^)
18:42 Asonate: do you think the sliderstream + turn is fine?
18:42 Spork Lover: About that 1/3 NC thing I talked about
18:42 Spork Lover: Yes
18:42 Spork Lover: I think it is
18:42 Spork Lover: It's only the first turn that I have a small problem with
18:42 Asonate: because im kind split
18:42 Asonate: between leeping it or not
18:42 Spork Lover: 'Cause it leads into such a crazy patterns
18:42 Spork Lover: The crazy pattern is audible
18:42 Spork Lover: So it's rankable like that
18:42 Asonate: i could delete 8
18:42 Asonate: make 7 a kick
18:43 Spork Lover: Making
18:43 Spork Lover: Maybe*
18:43 Spork Lover: My brain
18:43 Spork Lover: today
18:43 Spork Lover: wow
18:43 Spork Lover: >.<
18:43 Asonate: ;;w
18:43 Asonate: wait
18:43 Spork Lover: I need to help family out soon
18:43 Asonate: ill redo 01:32:855 (1) - this one
18:43 Spork Lover: Aight
18:43 Asonate: yeah, sure
18:43 Asonate: thanks for your help!
18:43 Spork Lover: I'll savelog now
17:37 Spork Lover: Song doesn't go in 1/1's here
17:37 Spork Lover:
17:37 Spork Lover: The vocal sounds off compared to what you mapped here (beginner)
17:39 Asonate: yeah, i know
17:39 Asonate: i still gotta ask a bn about that, but i cant map the 1/2 rhythm in a beginner
17:39 Spork Lover: 01:10:119 (1,2) - could benefit from being two sliders instead, since you start on an off-tick
17:39 Asonate: not with 190 bpm
17:39 Asonate: so the singles are fillernotes
17:39 Spork Lover: Maybe just make the sliders longer
17:39 Spork Lover: In that section
17:39 Spork Lover:
17:40 Spork Lover: Lemme try to make a timeline section
17:40 Asonate: the second is is kinda important since i dont have a synth on the 3rd white tick
17:40 Asonate: its again a 3/4 rhythm
17:42 Spork Lover: Hmm
17:44 Spork Lover: Yeah that's a hard pattern to map on a beginner
17:44 Spork Lover: I donno
17:44 Spork Lover: But I'd assume the long sliders would be the way to go
17:44 Asonate: yeah
17:44 Spork Lover: 'Cause when you play it, you hit everything too late
17:44 Asonate: ill leave them in the "ask bn" list
17:45 Spork Lover: Yeah good idea
17:45 Asonate: or wait, i can do something for the 1st thing
17:45 Spork Lover: 00:18:014 (2,1,2,3,4) - Pretty scary diff spike
17:45 Spork Lover: lol
17:45 Asonate: i like to live dangerously
17:45 Spork Lover: That part alone amps up the diff by 0,15
17:45 Spork Lover: xD
17:45 Asonate: this is one ill let a bn shoot down
17:45 Asonate: i need these stars
17:46 Spork Lover: Haha fair enough
17:46 Asonate: i dont wanna have to map a normal and an easy xD
17:46 Spork Lover: 00:54:961 (1,2) -
17:46 Spork Lover: I'd start with a slider instead (same length)
17:46 Spork Lover: And THEN add the single tap
17:46 Spork Lover: Because you're starting the slider on an off-tick
17:47 Spork Lover: 00:57:487 (1,2) -
17:47 Spork Lover: Same here
17:47 Asonate: yeah, ill do that
17:47 Spork Lover: 01:00:014 (1,2,1,2) - Here it's not as bad, but you could consider it if you want
17:48 Spork Lover: 01:08:856 (1,2) - For more playability, either a reverse or 3 single taps
17:48 Spork Lover: And maybe do a small curve on 01:08:224 (3,1) - for some discreet blankets
17:49 Spork Lover: 01:11:382 (1) - Instead of this slider, do like you did at 01:01:277 (1,2) - if you wanted to keep that
17:49 Asonate: the thing is, the last one fits much better
17:50 Asonate: i was there, believe me
17:50 Spork Lover: Is 01:35:382 - to 01:48:014 not mapped on all diffs?
17:50 Asonate: but the single feels pretty, well, useless
17:50 Spork Lover: Agreed
17:50 Asonate: yeah, not mapped on all
17:50 Spork Lover: The long slider flows better than the single tap into slider pattern
17:50 Spork Lover: Ok then I won't comment on that
17:50 Asonate: i think contract and rikis extra are the only ones that have that
17:50 Spork Lover: Erm
17:51 Spork Lover: Yeah that's totally fine
17:51 Asonate: since these two are on a level where the player should be able to have some stamina left
17:51 Spork Lover: Exactly
17:51 Spork Lover: It's completely rankable like that
17:52 Spork Lover: Aren't the combo colors a little bright for the BG?
17:52 Spork Lover: Pink doesn't feel like the best choise for example
17:52 Asonate: they are bright like that since the bg is pretty dark
17:52 Spork Lover: Hmm
17:52 Asonate: and with dim they are readable as well
17:52 Spork Lover: Most circles have a white line around them anyway
17:52 Spork Lover: So it's normally not really a problem
17:53 Asonate: yeah, i get pink, but idk, these colours are in the SB visualizer as well
17:53 Asonate: and they fit weirdly well
17:53 Spork Lover: Aight
17:53 Spork Lover: I think that's it for the beginner for now
17:53 Spork Lover: There might be some blankets and patterns, that could be different maybe
17:54 Asonate: wait real quick, applying the last icing :3
17:54 Spork Lover: Aight <3
17:54 Spork Lover: 00:56:224 (1,2,3) - Could be changed into a triangle pattern etc etc
17:54 Spork Lover: Like, there are a lot of options
17:54 Spork Lover: 00:56:540 (2,3,1) -
17:54 Spork Lover: Even though this already is lel
17:54 Spork Lover: But yeah
17:54 Asonate: the pattern i have with the singletaps
17:54 Spork Lover: There might be things that are possible to change
17:55 Asonate: the horizontal movement
17:55 Asonate: is a pattern i developed, youre gonna see it a lot in EXHAUST
17:55 Spork Lover: Yeah I'll look at that
17:55 Asonate: its a pattern that flows really well in all difficulties, Singularity has that as well
17:56 Spork Lover: I'm looking forward to it :3
17:56 Asonate: alright, fixed the very first thing now xD
17:57 Asonate: made the repeats longer by 1/4
17:57 Asonate: so they end on the 1/2
17:57 Spork Lover: Yeah that sounds like a good idea
17:57 Asonate: and still dont have 1/2 singles \o/
17:57 Spork Lover: Just tell me when you're ready for the EXHAUST :3
17:57 Spork Lover: OH YEEE
17:58 Asonate: alright, im ready
17:58 Spork Lover: Aight
17:59 Spork Lover: 00:30:487 -
17:59 Spork Lover: The AAAAAAH sound starts somewhere around here
17:59 Spork Lover: And not on the white tick
17:59 Spork Lover: x)
17:59 Asonate: yes
17:59 Asonate: that
17:59 Asonate: is
17:59 Asonate: gonna
18:00 Asonate: be though
18:00 Spork Lover: Yeah
18:00 Spork Lover: But it shouldn't be ignored imo
18:00 Spork Lover: 'Cause it feels off when playing
18:00 Asonate: i think ill put that on the "ask BN" list
18:00 Asonate: then i wont
18:00 Spork Lover: Good idea xD
18:00 Asonate: LETS FIX THIS
18:00 Spork Lover: 00:31:593 (1,2,3) -
18:00 Spork Lover: You did some fun kicksliders at the start
18:01 Spork Lover: Do you think they could fit somewhere here?
18:02 Spork Lover: 00:44:145 (2,1,2,1) -
18:02 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:02 Spork Lover: There's something that feels weird
18:02 Spork Lover: Probably the fact that the doubles in the music aren't all that audible to me
18:03 Asonate: they are super audible for me lol
18:03 Spork Lover: Lemme turn up my music 1 sec lol
18:04 Spork Lover: 00:51:172 (1) -
18:04 Spork Lover: The music allows for waaaay more than this
18:04 Spork Lover: There's even a 1/8 or 1/16 note section
18:04 Spork Lover: So maybe some kicksliders instead in certain sections would fit
18:04 Asonate: yes
18:04 Asonate: but this is 3.8 stars
18:05 Asonate: and the specific slider you linked is the one i like the most in that map xD
18:05 Spork Lover: Lol fair enough xD
18:05 Spork Lover: Forget I said dat >:D
18:05 Spork Lover: haha
18:05 Spork Lover: 00:58:119 (1,2) -
18:05 Asonate: lol
18:06 Spork Lover: Extended sliders would be fucking gorgeous here
18:06 Spork Lover: The music is extending its notes
18:06 Asonate: weeeeeeeeell
18:06 Asonate: concerning 1/4 stuff
18:06 Asonate: i overlap them
18:06 Asonate: and that would rip this pattern
18:07 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:07 Spork Lover: 01:08:224 (1,1) -
18:07 Spork Lover: You could do it a bit like you did here
18:07 Asonate: also, they aren extended, synths are 3/4 again
18:07 Spork Lover: Or something similar
18:07 Asonate: as always xD
18:07 Spork Lover: Just with 3 sliders with no reverse
18:07 Spork Lover: To me that would fit really well
18:08 Spork Lover: But it's just a suggestion, to interpret it as you want to
18:08 Spork Lover:
18:08 Spork Lover: 01:09:487 (1) -
18:08 Spork Lover: A lot of NC spam, consider removing this NC
18:08 Spork Lover: 01:12:014 (1) -
18:08 Asonate: got something
18:08 Asonate: on the slider thingy before
18:08 Spork Lover: And dat
18:08 Asonate: extended first one, second stays
18:08 Spork Lover: 01:13:277 (1) -
18:09 Asonate: with that i hit everything :3
18:09 Spork Lover: Nice, sounds good!
18:09 Spork Lover: I definitely think it'll flow a lot better
18:09 Spork Lover: btw about the audible stuff
18:10 Spork Lover: I agree now
18:10 Spork Lover: lol
18:10 Asonate: well, no nc spam really
18:10 Asonate: lol
18:10 Asonate: since i put 1 nc every downbeat xD
18:10 Spork Lover: Fair enough xD
18:10 Spork Lover: It still might be a liiittle too much xD
18:10 Spork Lover: But who am I to judge xD
18:10 Spork Lover: I'd maybe improve HP drain to compensate
18:10 Asonate: adding to "whenever qualified, expect a raging QAT" thing :^)
18:11 Spork Lover: Exactly lmfao xD
18:11 Spork Lover: 01:25:593 (2,1,2,1,2) -
18:11 Spork Lover: This pattern is really fun
18:11 Asonate: :^)
18:11 Asonate: didnt have many options with that one xD
18:11 Asonate: this one*
18:11 Spork Lover: Nope xD
18:11 Asonate: fk english
18:12 Spork Lover: *Tries to type in German*
18:12 Spork Lover: *Realises that I suck*
18:12 Spork Lover: Erm
18:12 Spork Lover: I think that's it for the EXHAUST
18:12 Spork Lover: Pretty solid imo
18:12 Asonate: glad to hear!
18:13 Asonate: well, not that i could do dutch any better xxD
18:13 Spork Lover: 01:09:487 (1) - Super nazi, but maybe rework the shape a bit xD
18:13 Asonate: all i know is watermelon
18:13 Spork Lover: I don't speak dutch lol
18:13 Spork Lover: I'm Danish
18:13 Spork Lover: xD
18:13 Asonate: = watermill :^)
18:13 Asonate: fk
18:13 Asonate: me
18:13 Asonate: what do you speak then?
18:13 Spork Lover: I just happen to be in the Netherlands
18:13 Spork Lover: I'm from Denmark xD
18:13 Spork Lover: I speak Danish :3
18:13 Asonate: o
18:13 Spork Lover: Yeee brah
18:13 Spork Lover: My dad lives in the Netherlands
18:13 Asonate: i though denmark was dutch lol
18:14 Spork Lover: Nope
18:14 Asonate: the more you know
18:14 Spork Lover: Netherlands is dutch
18:14 Spork Lover: Denmark is Danish
18:14 Spork Lover: >:D
18:14 Spork Lover: Time for contract
18:14 Spork Lover: ;ooooo
18:14 Asonate: Austria is german >:D
18:14 Spork Lover: Yup >:D
18:14 Asonate: GET THE WEEEEEEEED
18:14 Spork Lover: LOL
18:14 *Asonate runs
18:14 Spork Lover: I don't even think we can
18:14 Spork Lover: *Cries*
18:14 Spork Lover: Foreigners aren't allowed
18:14 Spork Lover:
18:15 Asonate: rip me
18:15 Spork Lover: 00:02:224 (1,2,3,4) - Either change the pattern around or gradually increase spacing or something similar
18:15 Spork Lover: imo it doesn't play too well
18:15 Spork Lover: 00:03:487 (5,6,7,8) - This flows better
18:16 Spork Lover: 00:04:119 (9) - Remember that the slider end is on the start of a new segment
18:16 Asonate: gonna have to decline that ;w;
18:16 Asonate: yeah it is
18:16 Asonate: but the first hitsound of the map is a spinner
18:16 Asonate: the intro is pretty weird
18:16 Spork Lover: True
18:16 Spork Lover: xD
18:16 Spork Lover: Yeah it is x)
18:16 Spork Lover: 00:06:856 (3) -
18:16 Spork Lover: You even did it here haha
18:17 Asonate: i like to live dangerously :^)
18:17 Spork Lover: 00:11:066 (7) - NC, since the other two triples have it
18:17 Spork Lover: <3
18:17 Asonate: done
18:18 Spork Lover: 00:31:593 (1,2,3,4) - I'd create a jump pattern with emphasized beats instead, since it doesn't feel like that when it doesn't have turn
18:18 Spork Lover: turns*
18:18 Spork Lover: It doesn't have to look like the next pattern at all
18:18 Asonate: btw, this diff or exhaust
18:19 Asonate: which do you think is older?
18:19 Spork Lover: This I think
18:19 Spork Lover: xD
18:19 Spork Lover: Got no idea tho
18:19 Asonate: yes
18:19 Spork Lover: The exhaust feels a lot more polished imo
18:19 Spork Lover: 00:31:593 (1,2,3,4) -
18:19 Spork Lover: I'll make a suggestion to this
18:19 Asonate: well, the reason for these notes not being angled that much is because i want a rather calm buildup
18:19 Asonate: in that sense
18:20 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:20 Asonate: dont quite know how to put it haha
18:20 Spork Lover: I get it x)
18:20 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4777760
18:20 Spork Lover: I was thinking something along these lines
18:21 Spork Lover: Doesn't have to be like dat tho
18:21 Asonate: i feel like thats way too high ;w;
18:21 Spork Lover: Fair enough
18:21 Spork Lover: 00:38:540 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:22 Spork Lover: On this, I'd make two kicksliders that curve a bit and a single tap
18:22 Spork Lover: It adds flow
18:22 Spork Lover: So it doesn't consist of only single taps
18:22 Asonate: hmmm
18:22 Spork Lover: And it also adds some variety that way
18:22 Asonate: thats a good one
18:22 Spork Lover: ^^
18:22 Asonate: contradicts the "gimmick" of the map a bit
18:22 Asonate: gotta see
18:22 Spork Lover: You can play around with it, see what works for you
18:23 Spork Lover:
18:23 Asonate: the, lets call it, "speciality" of this diff is that it is supposed to be a stamina challenge
18:23 Asonate: thats why there is a lack of sliders
18:23 Spork Lover: It's a bit like Night of Knights
18:23 Spork Lover: Just faster
18:23 Spork Lover: And a bit less spaced
18:23 Spork Lover: >:D
18:23 Asonate: 00:21:645 (1) - this part alone is really though to get through
18:23 Asonate: lol
18:24 Spork Lover: 00:25:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) -
18:24 Spork Lover: Yeah
18:24 Spork Lover: Stuff like this cramps your fingers
18:24 Spork Lover: But it feels good if you nail it
18:24 Spork Lover: >:D
18:24 Asonate: yeah
18:24 Spork Lover: 00:43:277 (7,8) -
18:24 Asonate: i took ages to clear that
18:24 Spork Lover: I'd relocate those to...
18:24 Asonate: still cant pass consistantly
18:24 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4777787
18:25 Spork Lover: And ctrl+j the slider
18:25 Spork Lover: Sorry ctrl´h
18:25 Spork Lover: *
18:25 Spork Lover: And then relocate the other stuff a bit so it plays
18:25 Asonate: hmmm
18:25 Spork Lover: 00:51:409 (2,3,4) -
18:25 Spork Lover: NC all of these since it's 3/4
18:25 Asonate: i could just move 7 down and it works?
18:26 Spork Lover: Yeah maybe
18:26 Spork Lover: 00:52:119 (5) -
18:26 Spork Lover: Place it in the middle of the sliders
18:26 Spork Lover: "Circle blanket"
18:26 Asonate: were gonna exit with 7 stars boiz :^)
18:26 Spork Lover: >:D
18:26 Asonate: had that before, yeah
18:27 Spork Lover: 00:54:014 (4,7,10) -
18:27 Asonate: it played worse than that, now it follows the triangular decreasing pattern
18:27 Spork Lover: 1/3, consider NC'ing
18:27 Spork Lover: Those 3 notes
18:27 Asonate: qyeah
18:27 Asonate: did that
18:27 Asonate: now comes the fun part
18:28 Spork Lover: Haha
18:28 Spork Lover: 00:56:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
18:28 Spork Lover: Holy shit
18:28 Spork Lover: lol
18:28 Spork Lover: Fun af
18:28 Spork Lover: xD
18:28 Asonate: I was so hoping youd like those
18:28 Spork Lover: 00:57:487 (1) -
18:28 Asonate: I prayed to god
18:28 Spork Lover: This I'd place a bit further down
18:29 Spork Lover: So it's kind of a "half" overlap
18:29 Asonate: i can go a bit down
18:29 Asonate: i still want it to stack a bit tho
18:29 Spork Lover: Since the map is gimmicky, half overlaps would work
18:29 Spork Lover: Or something similar
18:29 Asonate: did something
18:29 Spork Lover: 01:02:224 (6,7,8,9) -
18:29 Asonate: stacked it about 1/3
18:29 Spork Lover: Holy shit that takes some serious aim
18:29 Spork Lover: Dayum
18:29 *Asonate expects rage
18:29 Asonate: whew
18:30 Asonate: saved
18:30 Asonate: they are doable do
18:30 Asonate: confirmed by 15k scrub aka me
18:30 Spork Lover: Just a sec
18:30 Spork Lover:
18:30 Asonate: btw, that stream is the same pattern the singles had in exhaust
18:34 Spork Lover: I'm gonna stop the mod in like 10 minutes
18:34 Spork Lover: But that seems like enough time
18:34 Spork Lover: Need to help family in a bit :3
18:34 Asonate: should be
18:34 Asonate: sure, no worries
18:34 Spork Lover: Aight let's continue
18:34 Spork Lover: 01:03:803 (1,2) -
18:34 Spork Lover: Hmm 1/8? D:
18:34 Asonate: 01:11:066 (2,3,4,5) - you said something about aim :^)
18:34 Asonate: somehow i find that evne easier lol
18:35 Spork Lover: Yeah it wasn't a problem, but I just wasn't to say dayum, aim
18:35 Spork Lover: just wanted*
18:35 Spork Lover: 01:05:066 (1,2,3) -
18:35 Asonate: thats a good question
18:35 Asonate: why is that
18:35 Asonate: 1/8
18:35 Asonate: i have no idea
18:35 Asonate: ill just make it disappear lol
18:35 Spork Lover: You can create more high diff stuff with this
18:35 Spork Lover: Instead of 3 1/2 sliders
18:36 Spork Lover: The first slider is fine
18:36 Spork Lover: But there should at least be a triple
18:36 Spork Lover: Somewhere
18:36 Spork Lover: x)
18:36 Spork Lover: 01:11:382 (1) -
18:36 Spork Lover: 01:11:224 (4) -
18:36 Spork Lover: Not same distance from 5
18:36 Spork Lover: Could be a problem
18:37 Spork Lover: 01:20:540 (1,2,3,4) - I like NC's on 1/3 patterns <3
18:37 Spork Lover: 01:22:435 (10) - NC, again 1/3 stuff lol
18:38 Spork Lover: 01:20:856 (4,2,4,6,8,10) -
18:38 Spork Lover: All of these should be NC's imo
18:38 Asonate: sorry, i tried
18:38 Asonate: but i feel like a triple doesnt fit here ;w;
18:38 Spork Lover: Hmm
18:38 Spork Lover: Some double patterns instead?
18:39 Spork Lover: 01:33:565 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
18:39 Spork Lover: It's fine like this, but the turn makes it very hard to pull off
18:39 Spork Lover: (The turn at 01:33:487 (1) - )
18:40 Spork Lover: 01:42:645 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) -
18:40 Spork Lover: Think all of this is ok
18:40 Spork Lover:
18:40 Asonate: yeah, ive been thinking about remapping that stream
18:40 Asonate: similar to
18:40 Asonate: 01:13:435 (9) -
18:40 Asonate: this
18:40 Spork Lover: Yeah
18:40 Asonate: then again, i wanna be mean here
18:40 Asonate: CORPSES MUST FALL
18:40 Spork Lover: LOL
18:41 Spork Lover: Some mappers love corpses
18:41 Spork Lover: Like Pomuta's Ryoushi map
18:41 Spork Lover: My god
18:41 Spork Lover: I wanna kill myself when I play it
18:41 Spork Lover: But it's so good at the same time
18:41 Spork Lover: lol
18:41 Asonate: lol
18:41 Asonate: you didnt even play my maps yet :^)
18:42 Asonate: do you think the sliderstream + turn is fine?
18:42 Spork Lover: About that 1/3 NC thing I talked about
18:42 Spork Lover: Yes
18:42 Spork Lover: I think it is
18:42 Spork Lover: It's only the first turn that I have a small problem with
18:42 Asonate: because im kind split
18:42 Asonate: between leeping it or not
18:42 Spork Lover: 'Cause it leads into such a crazy patterns
18:42 Spork Lover: The crazy pattern is audible
18:42 Spork Lover: So it's rankable like that
18:42 Asonate: i could delete 8
18:42 Asonate: make 7 a kick
18:43 Spork Lover: Making
18:43 Spork Lover: Maybe*
18:43 Spork Lover: My brain
18:43 Spork Lover: today
18:43 Spork Lover: wow
18:43 Spork Lover: >.<
18:43 Asonate: ;;w
18:43 Asonate: wait
18:43 Spork Lover: I need to help family out soon
18:43 Asonate: ill redo 01:32:855 (1) - this one
18:43 Spork Lover: Aight
18:43 Asonate: yeah, sure
18:43 Asonate: thanks for your help!
18:43 Spork Lover: I'll savelog now
Remind me that I have to mod the GD's too!
Edit: Helped Rocket a bit with his rework over irc, think he savelogged ;o