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已经4个+1只骏喵了 都够飞一次+DQ+再飞套餐了110 wrote:
3个bn了,快点飞了吧
已经5个+1只骏马了 可以再干一遍OniJAM wrote:
已经4个+1只骏喵了 都够飞一次+DQ+再飞套餐了110 wrote:
3个bn了,快点飞了吧
HAVE YOU CHECKED THESE EVEN ONCE BEFORE POSTING "I THINK THE BLANKET IS OKAY"?kanor wrote:
00:12:166 (4,1) - 包好 个人感觉已经包好了
00:23:766 (4,5) - blanket 没包好?
examination wrote:
你们有一个好 就是跑的比香港记者都快Lavender wrote:
恭喜你已经成功吸引到三个bn
一定是的,快点飞啊Gyro Zeppeli wrote:
害怕,一觉醒来这么多人,我要飞了???
星耀都说要飞啦liaoxingyao wrote:
一定是的,快点飞啊Gyro Zeppeli wrote:
害怕,一觉醒来这么多人,我要飞了???
110 wrote:
M4M咯~
[General]
tag不要添自己的id tag是为了帮助搜索使用的 作为creator不存在搜索不到的问题 好
[Normal]
其实主要就是blanket在强迫症眼中比较难看尽可能地改了
00:06:766 (2,4) - blanket好 FIX
00:09:366 (1) - 这里的音效是前面结束的音但是00:10:166 (2) - 这个音效在这段安静放松的人声中不适合 FIX
00:23:766 (3,5) - 这两个做一做包一下吧 FIX
00:25:366 (5,6) - 包好 FIX
00:28:566 (2) - 感觉这个需要一个nc FIX
00:30:166 (5) - nc FIX
00:29:766 (4,5,6,1) - 这几个看着挺难受的 要不然别blanket了换成直的吧 FIX
00:32:966 (3,4) - ^ FIX
00:35:366 (2,5) - ^ FIX
00:37:766 (6,1) - ^ FIX
00:53:766 (5,1) - ^ FIX
01:20:366 (2,4,5) - ^ FIX
01:26:166 (1,2) - 互相平行直滑条或者咬合 咬合OK
[Insane]
间距导致读图问题很严重,需要大改
绿线下的稍微有点诡异 上去了的sv就不要轻易下来了 改掉了一些不太正常的SV
00:01:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 同样 这个开头也有些不妥 建议按上面hard的摸改一改 或者分开00:02:166 (6,1) - 之类的 FIX
00:12:566 (3) - 这里如果空拍,最好和后面00:12:966 (1) - 叠起来 FIX
00:18:566 (3,4,5) - flow不太舒服 FIX
00:22:766 (4,5,6) - 这里应该是note、滑条、滑条这样下 同时滑条可以头对头对着画 确实
00:23:766 (1) - 这样走又简洁又舒服 FIX
00:24:966 (3) - 和前面间距太小了 误导读图 FIX
00:31:966 (2) - 节奏下的不对 FIX
00:33:266 - 漏音 FIX
00:38:966 (1) - 虽然是很有趣的形状...但是还是和后面间距太小了 FIX
00:43:366 (5) - 最好放远 FIX
00:44:166 (3,4) - 顺时针旋转一点再往左放 这里flow很乱 FIX
00:45:366 (2) - 放远 FIX
00:46:166 (7,1,1) - 又加了nc又是很响的音又有3/4不放大点吗 然后00:46:766 (1) - 前后间距统一节奏不统一 会误读 FIX
00:52:766 (2,3,4,5) - 不舒服 FIX
00:57:166 (2) - 后面间距太小 FIX
01:02:766 (1,2) - 这个间距长度和后面1/2一样,可能你觉得这个滑条就是单点 但是实际上很难受 FIX
01:03:566 (4) - 后面间距太小 FIX
01:06:266 (1) - 这个nc没有理由 应该在01:06:166 (5) - 上是为了FL?不是,改了下
01:12:166 (3) - 和前面间距放大一点 FIX
01:18:166 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 这里和前面下的几乎一样 同样01:18:716 - 这是有音的 01:18:366 (2,3) - 间距太小太小 FIX
01:26:966 (5,6,7) - 这一块有1/4最好不要丢 FIX
gl 祝早飞 感谢
Gyro Zeppeli wrote:
害怕,一觉醒来这么多人,我要飞了???
哦这个虾抖Shad0w1and wrote:
edit:推翻重干肯定不用,要不我们来做个朋友交易,你帮我摸3张图,我帮你全部调整检查一遍给你修正一个没质量问题的Hard
各位BN姥爷们行行好来Check一下我的图吧感激不尽
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/432550
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/430141
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/398819
顺带强势求水摸谢谢大家
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/437797
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/447034
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/432550
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/430141
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/422600
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/409958
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/375311
[ -BELYOND- ] wrote:
歌不错,原田瞳吼起来还是那么带感。黑兔这个番好像不是很热门,只记得声优非常豪华。还是强忍无聊看完了。
闲话少叙,在这里主要还是针对图,实际上除了一些简单的排列和节奏问题窝也不是很会摸,摸图实力很有限,作图实力更有限。希望我的建议能为这张图的完善做出一点贡献。也希望这张图的主人可以尽快get it ranked.
实话说动画化受限太多反而没有达到实际的效果...
首先是NM:
00:20:166 (2) - 感觉这里和后面的滑条接不起来,不知道是对齐了好还是说换一种摆法。总之这样看起来怪怪的其实是有意对着前面的00:18:566 (5,1)的overmap的,这个没事,等我想想
00:28:166 (1,2,3,4) - 这里2和3是着重音,和1,4不同,感觉这样四个note顺起来影响读图 这个改了
01:05:366 (3) - 这个滑条感觉尾部和01:04:566 (1) - 重叠了,看起来不是很美观 FIX
01:11:766 (3) - 这个note感觉太顺滑条了,反而不顺手 暂时想不出怎么改...
然后就是所有的类似00:16:966 (3,4) - 这种的包感觉滑条可以再弯一点包紧实一点,看起来会美观些 这个受到DS限制其实不好包
NM就说这么多吧,节奏没什么问题,排列其实也还好。110说了几个NC的问题我感觉比较有道理,可以考虑改一下 是的
Insane:
00:02:166 (6) - 感觉这个滑条有点多余,可能这是mapper自己的想法,但是可能会让player读图产生问题 FIX
00:19:766 (1,2,3) - 不知道是不是窝看错了,好像没有摆正,既然不是小锐角跳或者钝角跳,感觉都做成正三角比较好 只是看错了
00:31:366 (1) - 这里的滑条有种突然变慢的感觉,可能是因为本身sv就低,所以读起来长短变化不是很大(但其实这是个长滑条),可以考虑换节奏或者调sv。(发现这个的根本原因是不顺手)发现了,改快一些
00:50:966 (1) - 从这里开始sv莫名变低了QAQ,感觉没有必要啊,节奏没有出现变化,和前面一致就好。否则后面的滑条集体变慢,非常不爽 FIX
01:03:766 (5,6,7) - 这里突然变慢了(隔的有点近) FIX
01:26:166 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 感觉ds有点问题,打起来不顺手,可以考虑拉大(因为bpm略低)这个...大了其实不好看
然后是音效的问题,感觉音效下的略随意了,可以关掉music专门听effect,就会发现其实很乱。建议稍微钻研一下 确实
好,就摸这么多。mapper辛苦了,祝早日飞~~THANKS
Pata-Mon wrote:
为什么会有这么多人
↓
这锅我背
因为我看了110、kanor、[ -BELYOND- ]的drama之后把这贴链接发到了某个纸张群里,那个纸张群毕竟全都tm的是纸张,BN带头搞事,zzb什么的还射星了,妈的我的图怎么就没这种待遇吓到了
所以我还是干点实事吧2333稍微看看这图
@LeVe1N1Ne
满足一下我的好奇心,你是卓德上的level9吗?对,同一个人仔细看了一下,这forum里怎么这么多暴力膜
活着不好吗
Shad0w1and wrote:
hard
00:01:366 - 这一坨就不多说了改成这样试试
像这种节奏强烈,但是map出来难度却爆炸的梗,应该应用所谓‘节奏覆写’的技巧。抓取重音利用NC和间距flow强行用排列梗覆写节奏。这种叠层即使我信仰塞爆也基本从来不用。
还有blanket的问题,我是信仰blanket要做就做到极致,绝对不偷懒,因为blanket太差的话打图时都能感觉出来就会很蛋疼。你的所有blanket都要review,这点小懒偷不得 回头我用最密的格线再包一遍,果然还是蛋疼orz
关于用你这种style必定遇到太多blanket的问题,我建议是你开始有意识地改变自己图风,不是真的需要的时候别把flow拍得那么密。什么意思?你的flow一直在左转右转想放得紧凑一点,但是blanket得基本功却不够,那么可以考虑有意识得靠近其他人的hard图风,我的属于精简节奏之后略微倾斜地排方形flow,117的hard稍微flow走向自由一点,又或者像zzb一样根本不去排什么图形紧凑,直接糊DS一路向前冲,这种都比较安全,否则你就要不断练习怎么把物件排好看,blanket,stacking这些都不能少。
嗯......回头试了试这种下法,然后试着下了一下,前面那坨改掉了√听起来舒服多了
00:30:366 (5,6,7) - 看一下这个梗,前DS2.27,后DS1.66,但是你仔细听,这里人声中断,而下一句 00:31:366 - 其实是整个句子的开始,特别在这种段落,这种特殊的人声是需要用滑条并加大DS来强调的,我的建议是之后把8重叠在9上,加大间距
我ctrl+G了一下,感觉舒服很多,应该也行
00:40:566 (9) - 注意一下这种前后DS直接翻倍是要全力避免的。把三连删了
00:45:366 (3,6) - 这两个可以同时NC 改了
00:46:966 - 这个随便你NC不 算了,感觉不NC也没啥
另外我看了半天才看出来。。。
关掉网格
关掉网格
关掉网格
00:52:566 - 怎样让这个梗外观能rank细节决定成败,即使玩家觉得无所谓,你也必须向mapping标准低头。改了,但是不知道那么改行不行
我看出来你是按照点格排列觉得这些梗能都是符合1格或者两格的规律,但是mapping没人在乎点阵这个必须关,即使是ez,要开也只能开一瞬间放完就关
01:08:966 (2) - 这个做为一个很好的例子我来说说,你觉得这个梗是固定了DS很安全,然而,一个最重要的标准,要让玩家轻松区分是1/4还是1/2那么你必须放出空间距离的区别来,也就是说,两个都粘上对于hard是很恶心的。一个粘上了,另一个就要DS拉大让他不能粘上,留出空间给玩家区分。 改了
最后还是建议老实开DS作图,即便我hard每个note都会按alt解锁,但是DS锁帮助是很大的,可以帮助你确定大致DS
这个膜算是还人情 谢谢; ;
edit:推翻重干肯定不用,要不我们来做个朋友交易,你帮我摸3张图,我帮你全部调整检查一遍给你修正一个没质量问题的Hard 可以啊1111111111
各位BN姥爷们行行好来Check一下我的图吧感激不尽
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/432550
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/430141
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/398819
顺带强势求水摸谢谢大家
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/437797
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/447034
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/432550
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/430141
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/422600
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/409958
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/375311
嗯,先谢谢爱抚; ;冷静下来之后确实觉得自己当时太冲动了.......yf_bmp wrote:
朋友,勿动肝火,谢谢配合
我是赞同 -BELYOND- 的,他把我想说的一些东西说了。在mapping圈乃至整个osu圈 你是需要耐心的。可以理解你的感受,自己费劲做的图被喷成狗屁,很不爽啊对不对。但是你想想啊,你的想法真的合理吗,或者跟别人的想法出入到底有多大?年轻人容易冲动,对,在我年轻的时候我作为GDer和某个bn干过一架,之后搞得甚至mapper图都坟了。后来也就是几个小时的时间,静下心来,回来再看看图,看看这个尖锐的mod,想想还是有道理的,当时不应该那么狂妄自大。风格不成熟,初期的mapper被人喷还是比较常见的(当然不是说喷的人一点错也没有),更何况自己的mod经验都不成熟,更怎能去质疑对方呢对不。
随便谈两句,我想上面那篇论文大家也都看的够累了。我只想说,这次发生了这么个事,还是能体谅一下的,毕竟大家也都有没经验导致那么冲动的时候。但是Kanor你真的得自己反思一下,毕竟搞了个这么个新闻。(虽说我也不知道怎么成新闻的,讲道理,这种事情明明可以私下里解决的)
希望图能够更好,是modder所期望的,我也是。希望同时不要放弃,有时间我会来送一个mod,直接在此edit
谢谢0w0[ -BELYOND- ] wrote:
然后是hard:
首先是音效,下的略随意,还是好好研究一下。 我确实不怎么会下音效....只能自己慢慢试着来了,重下了一遍不知道感觉怎么样; ;
然后是DS,hard的话确实没有死规定是要开DS,但是开DS会让你的图看起来整洁,打起来顺手。像hard这种排列要求尽量不要太吃读图的难度,我感觉开DS是有一定帮助的。但是全程不开DS,确实有点欠妥(就算是insane,extra,有的地方也是要开着DS做的)
00:07:366 (3,4) - flow不好,不顺 改了
00:07:766 (4,5) - 既然前面都包了,这个也应该包 改了
00:08:566 (7) - 建议拉直 改了
00:12:566 (1) - 这个滑条遮了音,建议换 恩,改了
00:30:566 (7,8) - 之间漏音 这里漏音了嘛.....这里是四连?
00:44:566 (1) - 这个滑条感觉可以简单点,少加一个node 这里是疏忽了,多下了个,改了
其他的地方就没有了。主要还是一个DS和开头的问题,打起来还算顺。音效重新下一下,应该就没问题了。
Pata-Mon wrote:
改了
- 00:01:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 开头这一串确实是完全超出hard的东西,需要改掉 改了
- 00:45:366 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这种节奏在hard里就很难读了,尤其是你现在这样的排列,真正打hard的玩家恐怕没几个能打准的。建议换成两个折返滑条
然后ds方面,我经验不太多,很多地方我不太确定好不好,但是这个图确实有不少地方可读性不够。你说你不愿意死压ds,不过我觉得这跟学走路和学跑步很像,可能还是需要先开ds把图做好,再去弄一些比较花哨的东西。我就说一个最需要改的地方吧:00:29:766 (3,4) - 和00:30:566 (7,8) - 你对比看一下 改了
然后blanket方面,我强迫症比较重,感觉有很多都没包好,这个相对没那么重要,不说了 我自己再去重新包一遍吧........
smallboat wrote:
正常點說吧 : Hard diff前面的00:01:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - note這是老style的放法,在現今這幾年後都不能用了 (當然,身為BN的我也是看不慣,你這想法我建議還是退一步了)
恩,改成折返了Hard前面不要放的像蒼蠅一樣那麼密集 要也是Insane再放
[Crz]Sword wrote:
[ClariS's Insane]
- 噗。。直接ar8了。。想for dt建议8.4或8.5,你们这三个Insane ar差的有点太大了。。这个是mapper的锅(甩
- 00:02:666 - 跟鼓的话这里还是别漏的好
- 00:28:166 (1) - 可以不NC
- 00:37:666 - 这个鼓不跟么?
- 00:44:566 (7) - 怎么这个不NC了。。你变snap全是NC的,这里不一致其实我自己都没注意(
- flow大概有点问题,没仔细看。
Frenkie09 wrote:
ClariS's Insane
·00:20:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 声音太轻,还有滑条开头不能用5%
·00:46:166 (1,2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5163287节奏这样放
·00:57:366 (6,7) - 这两个叠在滑条头好看点
·01:06:166 (5,6,7) - 滑条和圈圈接触距离不相同
·01:21:366 (2) - 这个不建议放那么远
Lily Bread wrote:
M4M.
[-ClariS-'s Insane]
00:01:866 (3,4,5,6) - 这什么....这里不是1/8塞满的
00:09:366 - 这之前建议remap好的莉莉
00:46:566 (3) - = =
kiai在我看来基本不在节奏上..不知道怎么摸..说的没错,是我沙皮ORZ
all(remap)fix(了)ORZ THX各位yf_bmp wrote:
[给照]
00:12:166 (5) - 不是很懂这个为啥放这里
00:16:966 (6,1) - 太近了,真的。(或者说是太远了,总之,这种情况不能不近不远)
00:17:966 (2,3) - ?这种在你这体现出来很沙皮的感觉
00:20:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 绿线没了?什么鬼
00:28:566 (1,1,1,2,3) - 。。这间距槽点略多,首先前两个,我是建议在00:28:966加个圈的;00:29:566 (1,2,3) - 这里还是1和2近一点,2和3开一点比较好
00:33:166 - 放个三连么这里有点犹豫要不要放三连
00:37:666 - ^
00:46:166 (1,2,3) - 你这节奏放错了吧。。
01:13:966 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这么overmap,不好吧
01:14:966 (1,2,3) - 这间距也是槽点。。你懂的吧我ZZ
别急啊我还没改完!Remilia_CO wrote:
目瞪口呆.jpg 我也来摸摸这个图吧=w=
Pata-Mon wrote:
[Hard]改的有些一头雾水
- 00:02:466 (5,6) - 用x1.5ds就行了 好
- 00:12:566 (1,2) - 有点远,跟后面00:19:566 (3,4) - 一样就好这里是另一句歌词的开始,而且从后面开始就有小跳了,稍微拉开一点提示一下Player也可以吧
- 00:17:966 (5,6) - 太远了
?????不管是timing还是note都不对啊.....- 00:29:966 (4) - 00:33:366 (5) - 这俩加nc或者把00:26:966 (1) - 去了 好
- 00:34:566 (8,1) - 最好还是按ds放,跟00:34:966 (1,2) - 一样 好,ctrl+G了一下
- 00:35:766 (3) - 应该在00:36:066 - 折返 ?????这个我更不懂了,我不是在这里放了折返吗.......
- 00:42:166 (3) - 00:45:366 (3) - ^
- 00:47:766 (1,2) - 太远 好
- 00:50:166 (4,5,6) - 这几个按ds放就行(你kiai应该用的是1.2?),另外overlap丑 好
- 00:51:766 (3,4) - 这什么ds 好
- 00:55:366 (5,1) - 重音按照你前面的可以跳一下的,而且这ds怎么1.1了 这里不是一个pattern吗,为什么要突然拉开啊
- 01:08:566 (1,2) - 太近 如果说kiai用的1.2,这里是1.3ds为什么你会觉得太近了啊......
- 01:12:966 (6,1) - 好
- 整个难度nc再查下,你到底要把nc放三连前面还是后面?00:37:966 (6,7,1) - 00:39:566 (1,2,3) - 好
- 懒得仔细看,感觉还有一顿重的nazi(主要是ds包括视觉ds的问题),而且基本全都blanket off.这hard缺少1/2单点(但还有一堆连打),结果你就只能靠加ds来加难度,但是ds太大也并不合适,即使是滑条尾后(除非是跟滑条头视觉ds,有时还可以接受)
音效忘记更新了,麻烦艾路再加一遍THXGDosu file format v14
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GL~
kanor wrote:
Pata-Mon wrote:
[Hard]改的有些一头雾水
- 00:12:566 (1,2) - 有点远,跟后面00:19:566 (3,4) - 一样就好这里是另一句歌词的开始,而且从后面开始就有小跳了,稍微拉开一点提示一下Player也可以吧 虽然如此,但这里我觉得不是需要强调的重音,而hard大部分地方还是要用ds,如果在过多在没必要的地方用跳会破坏ds的整体性.
- 00:17:966 (5,6) - 太远了
?????不管是timing还是note都不对啊..... 我不知道你那边什么情况,但我这边在他还没更新的情况下看依然是对的:http://b1.loli.io/images/ODGY.jpg- 00:35:766 (3) - 应该在00:36:066 - 折返 ?????这个我更不懂了,我不是在这里放了折返吗....... 非常明显,你的折返点不在蓝线上,我不知道为什么会出现这种情况,底下两个同样http://b1.loli.io/images/GD2l.jpg
- 00:42:166 (3) - 00:45:366 (3) - ^
- 00:55:366 (5,1) - 重音按照你前面的可以跳一下的,而且这ds怎么1.1了 这里不是一个pattern吗,为什么要突然拉开啊 按照你前面的逻辑,大白线的finish是会跳一下的比如00:49:366 (1) - 00:50:966 (1) - ,如果你不想跳的话把finish去掉.其实00:54:166 (1) - 这里也是.但问题是后面类似的地方你又跳了啊?01:08:566 (1) -
- 01:08:566 (1,2) - 太近 如果说kiai用的1.2,这里是1.3ds为什么你会觉得太近了啊...... 我说的是1跟2太近啊,视觉ds的问题,两个滑条头按照半拍1.3的ds来放就行了(你现在是1.0),不用管实际ds.
- 懒得仔细看,感觉还有一顿重的nazi(主要是ds包括视觉ds的问题),而且基本全都blanket off.这hard缺少1/2单点(但还有一堆连打),结果你就只能靠加ds来加难度,但是ds太大也并不合适,即使是滑条尾后(除非是跟滑条头视觉ds,有时还可以接受)
是这个意思:hard里没必要一直ds,但哪里跳哪里不跳,我觉得你的需要一个从头到尾一致的逻辑,反正我没有完全找到(而且跳不能滥用,那些比较一般的地方你跳得越多,就等于越在削弱你真正要强调的地方).另外每段至少应该有一个比较通用的ds,不跳的时候按照这个ds摆,跳的时候用这个来搞视觉ds.能用视觉ds的地方尽量用上,要说整齐度的话,在hard里这可能比blanket还有用.
我解释一下“跳的时候用这个来搞视觉ds”:
比如你某段正常用的1.3像这样:http://b1.loli.io/images/9JBD.jpg
然后你现在想跳一下之方法一:http://b1.loli.io/images/Pmz3.jpg 这里你会发现两个滑条头之间的距离是1.3,顺便还是个blanket
你想跳一下之方法二:http://b1.loli.io/images/ynW0.jpg 2的尾巴跟1的滑条身子最近的地方大约是1.3.
你想跳一下之方法三:http://b1.loli.io/images/XDdr.jpg 前后其他物件放进来之后跟两者形成ds关系
同样是跳一下,这些是不是比你现在用得要整齐许多呢?如果你不是很能熟练使用这些,那可能全程ds还能让图更漂亮些
Pata-Mon wrote:
[Hard]改的有些一头雾水
- 00:12:566 (1,2) - 有点远,跟后面00:19:566 (3,4) - 一样就好这里是另一句歌词的开始,而且从后面开始就有小跳了,稍微拉开一点提示一下Player也可以吧 虽然如此,但这里我觉得不是需要强调的重音,而hard大部分地方还是要用ds,如果在过多在没必要的地方用跳会破坏ds的整体性. 那就不改了,前面可以放低DS,这里开始才是正常DS,我感觉可能这个读起来并没有特别突兀的地方
- 00:17:966 (5,6) - 太远了
?????不管是timing还是note都不对啊..... 我不知道你那边什么情况,但我这边在他还没更新的情况下看依然是对的:http://b1.loli.io/images/ODGY.jpg
所以既然我这边是对的那就跳过- 00:35:766 (3) - 应该在00:36:066 - 折返 ?????这个我更不懂了,我不是在这里放了折返吗....... 非常明显,你的折返点不在蓝线上,我不知道为什么会出现这种情况,底下两个同样http://b1.loli.io/images/GD2l.jpg
所以既然我这边是对的那就跳过- 00:42:166 (3) - 00:45:366 (3) - ^
- 00:55:366 (5,1) - 重音按照你前面的可以跳一下的,而且这ds怎么1.1了 这里不是一个pattern吗,为什么要突然拉开啊 按照你前面的逻辑,大白线的finish是会跳一下的比如00:49:366 (1) - 00:50:966 (1) - ,如果你不想跳的话把finish去掉.其实00:54:166 (1) - 这里也是.但问题是后面类似的地方你又跳了啊?01:08:566 (1) -
所以我把前两个地方DS了,这里就不突兀了吧- 01:08:566 (1,2) - 太近 如果说kiai用的1.2,这里是1.3ds为什么你会觉得太近了啊...... 我说的是1跟2太近啊,视觉ds的问题,两个滑条头按照半拍1.3的ds来放就行了(你现在是1.0),不用管实际ds.
按照1.3和现在这样差的并不多呀.....- 懒得仔细看,感觉还有一顿重的nazi(主要是ds包括视觉ds的问题),而且基本全都blanket off.这hard缺少1/2单点(但还有一堆连打),结果你就只能靠加ds来加难度,但是ds太大也并不合适,即使是滑条尾后(除非是跟滑条头视觉ds,有时还可以接受)
是这个意思:hard里没必要一直ds,但哪里跳哪里不跳,我觉得你的需要一个从头到尾一致的逻辑,反正我没有完全找到(而且跳不能滥用,那些比较一般的地方你跳得越多,就等于越在削弱你真正要强调的地方).另外每段至少应该有一个比较通用的ds,不跳的时候按照这个ds摆,跳的时候用这个来搞视觉ds.能用视觉ds的地方尽量用上,要说整齐度的话,在hard里这可能比blanket还有用.
开头因为调比较激昂,鼓点也密集就用了1.5DS
00:09:366 (1) - 从这里开始曲子转柔和,DS放低,后半段为了适应难度加了点小跳
00:22:766 (1) - 从这里开始主歌,vocal的重音地方我会放跳,
你说的00:52:566 (3,4,5,6) - 这里是1.2DS而不是1.1
其他地方是随性放的,看着差不多就行咯,想跳的时候就跳咯
至于你同意不同意我的思路是另一回事了,所以就这样吧,视觉DS我会再去钻研的
蟹蟹阿伯QWQ,来抱抱[ Abhor ] wrote:
[ Hard ]
00:01:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 开头这里,我的话就选择不做,节奏对我看着也想搞事ORZ 之前不就是你告诉我这么下的吗(盯——)
00:12:566 (1,4) - 不好看QAQ,overlap丑丑的 不搞lap了,拉开
00:13:566 (2,3) - 刚好这里红线在前的折叠也不是很好不如拉开了,把上面的overlap一起改 好
00:15:766 (1,2,3) - 骚年,这个3星都没到你还是别这样了,而且你前面两个圈圈已经不是跟着DS走了,这里还这样看着我拥挤死了,不知道的还以为你这里上绿线减速了 其实那个梗原来就出自这里啊,只不过那个用得舒服一点......,改了
00:17:366 (4,5) - ↑
00:42:166 (3,1,2) - 这里的弯曲幅度好丑啊,能不能换好看点 诶诶为什么呀,我举得很好看呀QWQ
00:45:366 (3,1) - 就弄1/1就好啦,那么强的鼓音在白线上面别强行对人声,顺便这里就不要折返了,大白线放圈圈 好
00:46:766 (5,6) - 这里不要重叠拖开效果比较好,然后这里最好NC一下和前面的空拍有个区分,你这里空拍折叠打起来效果很迷 NC了,重叠不想改啦,因为之前故意降低了DS如果不叠一下切下flow后面有误导的可能QWQ
00:59:166 (2,3,4,5) - 。。。。。这块不如这样吧,你那个读图太迷了,而且排列显得乱01:02:966 (4,6) - 建议你这里不要叠着,我打了一下很明显这里打的时候滑条的遮挡还是很明显,很难看清楚 好
01:12:966 (6,1) - 首先这里间距不可以,开太大了 OK
01:13:366 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 怀疑你上次用了一次,现在用上瘾了← ←不好,这个hard定位不是高难度,而且高难度别人也不是很推荐,正常放
改成正常了,嗨呀好气哦.jpg
ORZ的确你这次总体感觉不是很好,没上次你给我那个看着好
这个Hard还是很久以前那个思路啦,只是改了下排列和flowQWQ
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