Hi, here is the Inner Oni as requested. (no kd)
http://puu.sh/oEMeb.rar
Please add my name to tags, thanks!
http://puu.sh/oEMeb.rar
Please add my name to tags, thanks!
Thanks.Invective wrote:
modNardo's Inner Oni
BG appears to be out of position. I've got no clue how to fix it though, but you probably know what to do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Other than that, nothing to note. This is intentional to show the girls appropriately during gameplay.
Hope it helps
Invective wrote:
modKantan
00:27:139 (17) - Change to k? For higher pitch and to avoid d d d d d d changed
01:31:021 - Why are the whoosh sfx mapped here and not at 01:33:845 or 01:36:668 etc.? Unless the intention was to follow something which I didn't pick up on. If you compare it to Futsuu which is the closest in density, quite a few beats in this section of the song are mapped there but aren't mapped here. I purposely did not follow most of the sfx here, it's mapped at the beginning because it's the sound right after the start of that measure. It feels like it would be too hard to have the sfx and some kind of rhythm in the background of it for a Kantan.
Futsuu
00:37:551 - Hitsounds of notes here are out of sync with how you mapped it at the start of the section at 00:34:198, since the music is the same. changed
Muzukashii
imo, the Muzu is fairly dense in comparison to the Futsuu, you could simplify it a little or buff the Futsuu a little. The notecount difference between the diffs is about 120-130 or so except between Futsuu and Muzu which is about twice that of the other diffs.
00:42:668 - Hitsounds inconsistent with Futsuu. You could also delete the first 5 k's (the ones which are currently k's, if you decide to unify the hitsounds) from this note 00:42:845 (132) for simplicity. There is an SV change as well. deleted some notes
00:45:668 (148) - Sounds awkward, move to next blue tick at 00:45:757 changed
01:01:551 (219) - Consider deleting this note and 01:02:257 (225). Given you're using a 1/4 5-plet in a Muzu (despite it being monocolor), you're still better off giving the players a break. changed
01:29:080 (43) - Change to d? This is the only occurrence of a multicolor 1/4 pattern in this Muzu, may as well keep the 1/4 monocolor throughout. changed
01:53:257 - Would be better to keep consistent with your Oni, I think the hitsounds in the Oni are more fitting, but up to you.
Oni
Could simplify a little a bit imo.
01:09:845 (343) - Change to d? changed
Q___X's Inner Oni
I got nothing.
Nardo's Inner Oni
BG appears to be out of position. I've got no clue how to fix it though, but you probably know what to do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Other than that, nothing to note. fixed their bg, idk why they moved it as if there was an sb.
Hope it helps
jonawaga wrote:
M4M you didn't follow the rules but whateverGeneral~it's already a kiai?
- 01:07:727 - / 01:08:080 - Make a little break in the kiai here for fun. added
- 01:13:374 (152) - This sounds the same as the other kiai's. I think it should be kiai too.
Kantan~is fineFustuu~
- 00:31:021 - Feels too intense to ignore. 00:30:668 (46) - Maybe move this here. changed
- 00:34:198 (56,57,58,59,60) - If this is the same as
00:37:021 (63,64,65,66,67) - this, then they sound play the same. Futsuu players won't be able to tell any difference.- 00:39:845 (69,70,71,72,73,74) - Futsuu players will probably panic at this. It is the same pattern in Muzu except for one circle. I recommend this pattern. It's still harder than Kantan. that pattern doesn't really fit
- 01:00:492 - Add a k? added
- 01:09:668 - Add a d? added
- 01:13:374 (152) - d. It's the same sound as before it. changed
- 01:41:963 (228) - d changed
- 01:53:257 (261,262,263) - Make all of these big for a big finish. changed
Muzu~
- 00:23:080 (38,39) - kd changed
- 00:28:727 (68,69,70) - kdk or kdd changed
- 00:46:021 (149) - d changed
- 00:50:433 (167) - k changed
- 01:08:786 (261,262,263,264,265,266) - too many d, either make this 01:09:139 (264) - or 01:09:492 (266) - this k actually made both k
- 01:38:963 (94) - d changed
Oni~
- 00:17:433 (34) - k changed
- 00:19:021 (41) - ^ changed
- 00:20:433 (47) - ^ changed
- 00:26:080 (83,84) - kd changed
- 01:05:963 (318,319,320) - ddk or dkk changed
- 01:40:374 (553) - k changed
- 01:42:580 (568) - ^ changed
- 01:44:786 (583) - ^ changed
- 01:50:080 (619,620) - dk changed
Muzu/Oni Harmony~I'll stop there. Good Luck~!!
- 01:32:168 - Note on Muzu that isn't on Oni. changed
- 01:37:110 - ^ changed
- 01:46:639 - ^ 3 triplets in a row is kind of hard for an oni imo
Etsu wrote:
Hello!
My modding from M4M...
don = d | kat = k
big don = D | big kat = K
Note: if I make this sign "?" means if you can or not...kantan00:15:845 (4) – change d? higher pitcher than last d, so no.
00:21:492 (9) – change d? ^
00:22:904 (11) – change D? that would be a lot of d's in general right there. so no.
00:25:727 (15,16) – change k these d's are the same pitch as the other ones. would be weird to change them to k.
00:49:021 (52) – delete this is the only part in this section that has rising background noise. therefore it should be mapped.
00:53:257 (55) – same ^
01:33:492 (112) – delete that leaves a longer pause than all the other notes. you want to try and keep things consistent for new players.
01:34:198 (113) – move to 01:33:916 - (as you do the same in 01:31:021 (107) -) if I were to move this note to follow the sfx, rather than the main rhythm, it would become harder for a newer player.
01:34:904 (114) – move to 01:34:551 I made a different change to the rhythm here
01:35:257 – add k changed
01:54:668 (152) – move to 01:54:524? sounds off barely following the rhythm here
01:54:845 – add K ^Futsuu00:13:021 (4) – change d I hear the same sound… as this is well 00:17:257 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) changed
00:22:198 (23,24,25) – control+g? (if you did Take away the K in 00:22:198 (23) and add D in 00:22:904 (25) doesn't sound right. there's a rising sound in the background for the kiai. and the k is to indicate that the kiai has started. normally in a different difficulty, there would be a stream before that k, but for here, it sounds best as two d's leading into the more important k.
00:25:727 (32,33,34) – move to 00:26:433? It feels weird… and delete in 00:26:433 (35) - (if you did add d in 00:26:433 -) sounds weird once moved. it's following the same pattern as 00:29:963 (43,44,45) - so moving it makes it not do that. (also you didn't say this rhythm sounded weird, even though it's the same.)
00:36:315 (61) – move to 00:36:492 and delete 00:36:668 (62) - 00:37:021 (63) I think it would be better that way it sounds kind of off this way. also there aren't any other doubles in the sound, so bringing this pattern up once, then never again, isn't good
01:09:668 (143) – delete? it's more intense right here than the other parts, so it should be kept.
01:10:374 – add k I think it sounds best as is.
01:27:668 – add d? added
01:39:139 (218) – delete that's the start of a different sound, it sounds weird without it
01:39:845 (220) – delete ^
01:39:845 (220) – change D? there's no important sound here to warrant a DMuzukashii00:16:463 (16) – move to 00:16:121 you'd be missing a beat here and making a simple section more complicated
00:23:080 (38) – change d changed
00:23:257 (39) – change k ^
00:24:668 (47) – change k changed
00:25:021 (49) – change d not changed, changed the note before it. since the rhythm restarts here
00:25:374 (51) – change k sounds weird if changed to k
00:26:080 (54) – change k changed
00:28:904 (69) – change k? too many k's, sounds weird
00:29:610 (73) – change k? ^
00:44:080 (137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145) - It would be better with d they're not all the same sound
00:58:198 (198) – change k? changed
00:58:374 (199) – change d? changed
00:58:551 (200) – change K? nothing important here to need a K
01:01:021 (214,215,216) – control+g? having dkk sounds better with the upcoming ddddd
01:02:257 – add d it's better to have a break here after ddddd in a muzu
01:02:257 – add d ^
01:27:668 (34) – change d? sounds weird, also that's a lot of d's
01:27:845 (35) – change k? having dkdkdk here sounds weird
Well there are some parts that must be added triples as heard in this part 00:23:433 (40) - because you did well from 01:34:198 (67) - (You should check it well because it should be almost the same as the final) added a couple triplesOni00:13:198 (9) – cambiar a k? creo que es mejor así ya que sería lo mismo en 00:11:963 (3) y por la dificultad cambía
00:14:786 (17) – cambiar a k cambía
00:16:815 – escucho un sonido agregale k no necesita aquí
00:24:139 (70) – cambiar a k? cambía
00:28:286 – agregar a d cambía
00:44:080 (185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199) – mmm… no se lo veo mas difícil esto se hace en inner oni trata de cambiarle con ddkk no se ajusta a la derecha como ddkk
01:16:463 – agregar a d? no necesita aquí
01:17:610 – agregar a d cambía
01:22:419 – agregar k cambía
01:29:433 (478,479,480) – control + g? el sonido es diferente cambía
01:33:845 (512) – cambiar a D? no necesita aquí
01:34:551 (517) – también? tampoco
01:41:786 – agregar k? el jugador necesita un descanso aquíInner OniGood luck00:32:082 (180) - el objeto no esta ajustado no necesita ajustado? no sé
no tengo mucha experiencia en esta diff lo siento xd
Thanks for your mod~ptar124 wrote:
Heya! From M4M queueNardo's Inner Oni ("Two Inners? Why not call this something else" - Backfire 2016)
00:42:139 (274,275,276) - I think i hear something over here. Might just be me though The 1/4 beats are prominent, so I used kkk there.
01:10:198 (483,484,485,486,487,488,489) - Wow Nardo, merciless....you can make the fourth note a kat you know, just saying, even though you'll probably reject Remain unchanged to show a contrast with 01:16:198 (538,539,540,541,542,543,544) -
01:13:286 (512) - you can make this a don to emphasize the kat every 1/2 As the 1/2 hits have the identical pitch, it would sound better to use a monotone triplet there.
Well, Nardo's maps never cease to impress me. And also, REALLY merciless compared to your other maps xD. Nice work! Thanks :3
As I said, it's the later difficulties that you're having problems with. A lot of hitsounding needs work and I really don't have the energy to do this (I've legitimately been modding this thing for over an hour, just imagine how much you need to fix). The earlier difficulties also have the problems about difficulty levels, they are way too hard. Needs lots of work to rank but don't give up! ...you cannot give up now. The fate of the underground lies in your hards. Ayyri, stay determined! #undertale xS
I applied mosted of these, thank you for the mod.ptar124 wrote:
Heya! From M4M queueKantan
00:00:316 - you sure you want to leave this empty,? It sound, well, kinda unnecessarily empty so maybe map this part?
00:34:727 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - Rhythm is really hard here for Kantan, might even be hard for Futsuu in some cases. You might want to place them right on the beat
01:34:198 (118) - Move this back a beat to continue with the motif of mapping to the wooooosshhhh xD
01:37:021 (124) - ^
01:53:257 (152,153,154,155) - Again with the hard rhythm, this one is a little easier so you maybe could leave it but just so you know, this is quite hard.Futsuu
00:00:316 - Like Kantan, this is very empty
00:23:610 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - This whole part just sounds plain weird. Not that the hitounds are off, but again's its more of a problem with the rhythm.
00:35:786 (60,61,62,63,64) - change this so that it is consistent with 00:38:610 (67,68,69,70) - The way it is is a little hard and just so it is consistent throughout the map.
00:45:492 (86) - Think you should finish this phrase with a don
01:01:727 (122) - - 5 1/2s is actually a little long. If you change the first not to don so that the whole thing becomes easier, then it should be fine
01:13:021 (154,155) - These two notes have the exact same pitch, make them dons like the ones I mentioned earlier
01:40:551 (227,228,229,230,231) - Now, this is complex stuff for Futsuu, make this pattern simpler, just like the ones before
You could maybe bring down HP to 6 for this diff.Muzukashii
00:00:316 - like other diffs
00:11:610 (1,2) - Ctrl+G
00:13:374 (6) - don
00:14:786 (10) - ^
00:16:021 (14,15) - Ctrl+G
00:16:639 (17) - kat
00:42:668 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143) - I think this part is a bit overdone, too much finishes, especially at this BPM and this difficulty is kinda hard to play and hard to read.
01:01:727 (222,223,224,225,226) - probably unrankable, 5 1/4s is WAY hard for Muzus
01:12:315 (282,283,284,285,286) - ^
01:13:021 (288,289,290,291,292) - Again with the finishes, in this part, even though the color is the same, it puts a lot of strain to both hands when you play it.
01:48:845 (151,152,153,154) - too many finishes
You're using a lot of polychromatic 1/4 triplets. Most of them are probably unrankable, best if you fix it and change it to just one color like ddd or kkkJust a comment on this diff, this could actually be an Oni. This is very hard for a Muzukashii and I've never seen a Muzukashii this hard for a long time now. I know what the stars say, but trust me, it's pretty broken, go see Lost The Light's Tem Shop if you don't believe me.Oni
00:00:316 - like other diffs
00:52:021 - add something here
00:52:374 - add something here
First off, I know this isn't a lot of mod but unless you want me to go nazi mode for this, this is all I can give you. Its not impressive, nor cringeworthy. There are lots of hitsounding problems that I would like to leave for better modders to deal with.
Thanks for the mod Stefan~Stefan wrote:
[Nardo's Inner Oni]
00:48:404 (318) - it's kinda breaking the flow here, it feels odd to play a doublet here, you should remove it. I followed the background instrument in this session. As the sound there is really distinct, I would prefer keeping the note.
\o o/
Thanks for the mod~Nyan wrote:
[Nardo]
00:55:904 (366) - add Finish The sound effect here is a bit weaker than 00:56:433 (369) - , so I think k would be enough.
Stefan wrote:
[Q____X' Inner Oni]
00:00:316 (1) - It's a pity you waste the time here with a long spinner instead of mapping it actually. I would try to map something here. ✔
00:27:139 (139) - k here? having a k - d - k switch on 1/1 is for the most time a nice thing to play. ✔
00:30:668 (168,169) - kdkdd sounds and plays oddly here, make it to kddkd instead. ✔
00:32:874 (187) - sounds more like k to the music. ✔
00:59:610 (331,332,333,334,335,336,337) - The concept to use many doublets and pattern such as kddkd works on this song very well, so it should be used here. Make this to kddkd dkd. ✔
01:00:580 (339,340,341,342,343) - I am wondering what cause the sudden low dense here, I hear that the music changes slightly but still it feels oddly and not really fitting to the previous combos you've mapped. ✔
01:03:051 (353) - Move the note on 01:03:404 - and make it as k, I think the woooooosh gets more emphasized by this way. ✔
01:05:874 (375) - Same here to 01:06:227 - , just keep it as d since ddkdd is cool here. ✔
01:10:904 (412,413,414,415,416,417,418) - Make this as dkddk kdk, it's pretty similar with 00:59:610 (331,332,333,334,335,336,337) - . ✔
Looks good in general
Thanks for your mod ^^
Thanks for your modptar124 wrote:
Heya! From M4M queueQ____X's Inner Oni
00:44:080 (243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259) - This one is quite the choke point, I understand if you want to keep it, however., Yes i want to keep it
00:47:433 (267,268) - The melody is still going up, making a k-d doesn't help ✔
01:22:198 (495,496,497,498,499,500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516) - I think dkkkdkkkdkkkd actually suits this part better ✔
Again, hitsounding problems that I don't want to mess with much because then, I'd have to point out like tens of them.
Thanks for your modNyan wrote:
[Q___X]
00:12:492 (47) - delete X
00:13:904 (55) - delete; other dons are okay first two of them can be deleted X
00:48:315 (271,272,273) - dk kd ✔
01:08:080 (388) - add Finish ✔
01:29:786 (560,561,562) - (can be) ddk__d or full 7 length ddkdddk / ddkddkd ✔
01:40:198 (635,636,637) - (can be) kkddd ✔
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I'll apply these asap.Stefan wrote:
[Oni]
00:32:698 (168) - 00:32:610 (167,169,170,171,172,173) sounds better to me by removing (168) here.
00:44:080 (222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236) - Since this is considered as a Oni Difficulty you should use a simplier pattern - this one is not that appropriate, you could use ddkkdd... for it or ddddkkkk... , up to you. For sure you need to make it easier.
01:12:757 (407) - Similar to 00:32:698 (168) - I'd remove this note.
Like I told you yesterday after testplay, quite solid Oni Difficulty and well done, just solve these parts I've named above and you're on a good way.
[Muzukashii]
hopefully we can do the rest via IRC, gotta catch you asap.
Etsu wrote:
Hello!
No kudos please
I tried to play again and this well but...
In the muzukashii diff ... there are notes that it is very difficult so in this section 00:23:433 (64,65,66) - should be ddd, same in 00:25:021 (74,75,76) - and so on each similar section so is the same rate... (so it is similar in 00:57:492 (222,223,224) - ) I don't agree with this. Having ddd over and over gets repetitive, especially when the sounds do change.
It is a map with many rhythm and the essence is threefold... That's my opinion.
And 00:27:139 (86,87,88) - You should switch to kkk The pitch did not change like it did at 00:33:845 (123,124,125) - therefore there is no need to change it, when it's the same sound.
It's just a quick check so please do not kudosu me and good luck
I applied all of these. Thank you very much for the mod!OzzyOzrock wrote:
[Oni][Muzukashii]
- I'd recommend OD6 and HP6 even if you have that for Inner Oni, because otherwise the numbers get dumb on lower diffs.
- 00:05:963 - If you listen more carefully, the song maps parts like 00:06:492 (4,5,6,7) - as doubles, not triplets like you used. I would recommend following that.
- 00:11:610 (39,40,41,42,43) - I think would sound nice as k k d kd, and maybe the ones that come after and the ones at the end can be done similarly (not saying to get rid of 1/4 on those that have it).
- 00:16:374 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - This could follow the song more, listen closely and map the doubles.
- 00:18:668 (73,74) - and 00:20:080 (83,84) - would also need 1/4, no?
- 00:22:904 to 00:25:551 - could use a bit more structure. Try changing 00:23:610 (98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106) - to kkd k d kkk instead.
- 00:29:786 (144,145,146) - ddk would be better to avoid using so much kdd
- 00:44:433 (221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231) - kkddkkkkkkk would basically be less annoying but fit what you're mapping.
- 01:30:757 (526,527) - Deleting these notes makes a nice break while leading into kiai nicely.
- 01:31:463 (529) - k? Also to limit kdd overusage.
- 01:37:110 (568) - ^
- 01:47:786 (643,644,645) - kkk? Just because this part has a lot of red.
- 01:48:845 (648,649,650,651) - I don't think you need the big note spam on these. It's a bad sound to map them to IMO.
- 01:52:463 - Add a d? The song has it.
[Futsuu]
- OD 5 is a must here. 4 is stupidly easy.
- 00:05:963 - Muzukashii is where you can start to use actual rhythms but not go overboard, so with that said maybe this is a better idea:
(Actually, after looking at the puush again, delete the note at 00:08:610)- 00:13:198 - Would actually recommend ALL of these being dkkd k (except for 00:11:610 (30) - which is naturally easier like in Oni), because then you can use d k k for Futsuu instead (it fits better there).
- 00:21:492 (60,61,62) - kkk k? Better for spread with Oni.
- For kiai, try to give your use of 1/4 some structure instead of throwing it everywhere in hopes to have spread. Try this pattern for the first part of kiai.
This follows the doubles in the rhythm while being a nice step down from Oni. Use this for other similar kiais since it'll fit there too. Don't be afraid to repeat rhythms, as you can always change the colors if you want variation.- 00:31:374 to 00:34:198 - This can be
- 00:49:727 (191,192,193,194,195,196) - Follow the rhythm instead? k k k d, and then deleting the notes before 00:51:139 would be nice.
- 00:54:315 (210) - Move this to 00:54:492? It mimics 00:51:668 (199,200,201,202) - this way.
- 00:55:374 (214) - Change this to a D, then delete 00:55:727 (215,216,217) - to create a nice break but also lead in well into the kiai.
- New kiais comes up, use my rhythm for both since the ones you have basically have too much 1/4 and leaves Futsuu looking like a baby. While you apply that rhythm though, feel free to add changes based on the music and I'll come back and touch them up another day.
- 01:21:845 (1,2) - Delete these because it's a bad spot to start mapping.
- 01:22:198 to 01:25:021 - Copy the intro rhythms that I suggested, and I'll touch it up to fit with Oni well. 01:24:227 (12,13,14,15) - Definitely needs to be d k kk d though.
- 01:26:257 (24,25) - Delete these notes to lower density.
- 01:30:845 (47) - Delete this too because it just messes up how kiai starts.
- For the last kiais, since it's a much different part of the song, we'll switch up the mapping of it. Try this:
With the blue notes all being big notes. The dd dd part will usually match up with the stupid SDVX effects so you can change that up when it applies.- 01:39:139 (92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100) - Can be just d k d k d k d k
- 01:40:551 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - Then this can be ddd d k ddd K
Resist the urge to follow the effects and map the first part of the last kiai with the same rhythm, then when the BIG NOTE EXTRAVAGANZA starts (preferably at 01:50:433 because the big notes at 01:49:021 (148,149,150,151) - are kinda lame) you can start to get off of it.[Kantan]
- OD 4 HP 7 please!
- Here is where you're gonna get to do stuff... You're gonna get the privelege to actually re-map this while using Muzukashii as a reference now that it was changed a bunch. But to help, here is a sample of how free you are to map to stuff in Futsuu.
- The intro doesn't need any limits to 1/1 or anything.
- Little deet deet deedeet part can use 1/4 since the situation calls for it. Just don't use multiple 1/4 in a row on a Futsuu, obviously.
- And of course, the rhythms you can use in kiai time to compare with Muzukashii's density (break at the end intended).
- 00:22:198 (42,43) - Delete these notes as a break, since Futsuu and Kantan need long breaks to be rankable.
- 00:40:374 - And for the record you mapped this fine (in case you doubted yourself)
OK YOU CAN DO THIS...
- OD 4 HP 8 since I put Futsuu at 7.
- So Kantan will be obvious as far as how to map it once you make Futsuu. Kantan is the bottom bread of the sandwich, and there's no point in modding it until Futsuu is done. But basically, you are pretty restricted to 1/1, but you don't need to be afraid of adding notes, in fact you will likely need to double the amount of notes because Futsuu is going to be harder. It's a t+pazolite song, no one expected simple diffs!
Thanks for your modOzzyOzrock wrote:
[Q___X's Inner Oni]
- You like ddk and ddddk huh? yes i love it :p
- Check AIMod Changed
- 01:22:198 - I think it's better to map this differently, because it's weird to have this part of the song be the hardest part. changed
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OzzyOzrock wrote:
[Oni][Muzukashii]
- 00:16:374 (60,61,62,63,64,65,66) - Still better as xx x xx x I disagree with some of this, it's more natural as "xx xx xx x"
- 00:18:668 (72,73) - 00:20:080 (78,79) - These are missing 1/4 Changed to kdk's.
[Futsuu]
- 00:24:139 - I misjudged spread here, try deleting the note here, 00:25:551 here and 00:26:963 etc. etc. It was just too dense.
- 00:48:315 (189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198) - Better off following the rhythm. This pattern was your idea though. ;w; But I will change it to something else.
- Middle kiai, here's a rhythm to use instead of ddd and kkk which bores me, and the ddk which isn't even good. I don't exactly agree with the rhythm you're following here, but I'll change it and see how that goes.
- 01:23:962 (9,10,11,12,13) - kinda sux... This was also your idea.. It matches with the patterns during the kiai, but it could also be changed to kkdd.
- 01:31:021 - Ok ummmmmmmmmmm yeah instead of whatever happens for these last two kiais try to make something else up... Whatever the last two kiais are.. ;-;
Something like this:
And instead of blind pasting actually listen for it to make sense. The rhythms did make sense. >>- 01:43:375 (117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124) - THIS IS NOT OK IN A MUZU hop off oz
[Kantan]
- Just work on making the kiais more like the first one. It's the best way to map it.
For the 2nd to last kiai, I'd ignore the finisher spam since it makes it hard to balance difficulty.
- Solely based on how Futsuu ends up, so it'll likely have to be harder. My first mod probably says something about that.
Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
It seems that the SR of Muzukashii and Oni has been screwed up, so I am going to suggest some pattern changes for Muzukashii in order to fix it up.
[Kantan]
As Ozzy said, this difficulty could be harder by using a bit more 1/1 notes since Futsuu is relatively dense.
- [Muzukashii]
You should change the base slider velocity to 1.4 using notepad. Also, it is not recommended to use SV changes in Muzukashii since it is just an intermediate difficulty. Why the fuck was it not 1.40. I hate how osu just randomly changes this some times. ;-; Very bothersome. >w<Basically the high star difficulty of Muzukashii is due to the 3/4 snaps, so you may tweak the diff in this direction. Hope the above suggestions help~
- 00:11:433 (28) - this note could be deleted to follow the break at 00:17:080 - Removed.
- 00:33:933 (127) - move to 00:33:051 - and delete 00:34:021 (128) - to give a short 1/1 rest before the 3/4 snaps ? Moved, and also deleted 00:34:021 (127) - since k-k sounds weird if this sound would generally be mapped as triplet. Also provides a nice break there.
- 00:37:021 (139) - maybe remove finish ? It is a bit overemphasized imo. Removed.
- 00:45:757 (176,177) - you may delete these notes for a 2/1 break. Currently the difficulty is rather hard due to the lack of rest moments. I removed those notes, and also moved 2 or 3 other notes during the pattern after that for better breaks.
- 00:47:433 (181,182,183) - consider changing these notes to d k k to accompany the pitch increase ? This was the pattern change I mentioned above. I think k d k d works fine.
- 00:48:139 (184) - move to 00:48:580 - and change to k, then move 00:48:668 (186) - to 00:48:845 - for a smoother flow ? ^
- 00:50:698 (194) - maybe d to fit the pitch drop there ? I will change this for now, but I still think that this note has the same pitch as the two k's before it, and the pitch decreation happens after this note is hit.
- 00:51:315 (196) - move to 00:51:492 - and 00:52:021 (199) - move to 00:52:374 - to improve the flow ? Moved.
- 00:52:727 (202) - you may move this note to 00:52:904 - if you apply ^ It doesn't sound right once this note is moved, because you'd be hitting the end of this sound. Where it starts sounds a lot better. (Which is at 00:52:727 - )
- 00:53:610 (205) - change k and add d at 00:53:433 - Changed, and added.
- From 00:56:786 to 01:19:374 - the kiai part looks like an Oni. Try to reduce the use of 1/4 doublets and avoid colour-changing ones. Thanks Oz
- 00:59:080 (227,229) - maybe delete these notes to avoid consecutive mapping ? Removed.
- 01:01:904 - add a note here to follow the noticeable beat ? Added. I had this previously, and I thought it sounded off without it. But this map is just all about doublets.
- 01:04:727 (253,255) - same as 00:59:168 (228,229) - I only removed the first note. The second one seems odd.
- 01:06:757 (263) - move to 01:06:845 - and move 01:07:904 (269) - to 01:07:551 - to make the pattern more intuitive to play. Thank you for reviving my triplet.s
- From 01:09:315 to 01:11:874 - maybe try this instead to simplify the pattern ? Changed. (cursor at 01:10:551 - )
- 01:13:109 (296) - similar to 01:06:757 (263) - , you may move this note to 01:13:198 - to follow the prominent beat. Changed it to a triplet instead.
- 01:16:286 (312) - move to 01:16:198 - and delete 01:16:374 (313) - for simplicity ? It sounds better having a k at 01:16:198 - then a break until 01:16:551 (314) - so you don't mess with the doublets here.
- 01:19:374 (1) - you can simply end this spinner at 01:21:492 - for another 2/1 break. Changed.
- 01:24:227 (10) - move to 01:24:139 - and change 01:24:315 (11) - to d to avoid the 1/4 kkdd ? Changed.
- 01:25:021 (15) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? This isn't as important of a note, but I will put a finish.
- 01:27:668 (31) - this note could be removed to crack the 1/4+1/2 pattern chain a bit. Removed.
- 01:28:904 (37,38,39) - maybe kkk here for pattern variety ? I don't completely agree or disagree, but either or sounds fine.
- 01:31:551 (48) and 01:33:139 (57) - same as 00:37:021 (139) - Changed it to something else.
- 01:33:315 (58) - consider removing this note for a short rest ? This could somehow follow the music as well. Removed.
- 01:35:080 (67) - maybe d for a better flow ? Either sounds fine.
- 01:40:374 (96) - similar to 01:27:668 (31) - , delete and change 01:40:551 (96,97,98) - to kkk ? Removed and changed.
- 01:43:815 (115) - move to 01:43:904 - and add d at 01:43:992 - ? Changed.
- 01:45:934 (127) - delete and move 01:46:022 (127) - to 01:45:668 - for better "paragraphing" ? Removed and changed.
- 01:47:434 (135,136,137,138) - kkk d instead of dk dk ? Refer to Changed.
Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Here comes a mod for Kantan and Futsuu as requested, followed by a recheck for Muzukashii. (no kd)
[General]
You may shift the BG a bit downward using notepad for all difficulties so that the girls are more visible: I actually don't care as much about having the girls visible, I care moreso about the title being apparent. So instead of using 10, I used 5. Because if I were to make it so that "(tpz Despair Remix)" was visible, it would crop their faces very weirdly. So it's best that just "Tomorrow Perfume" is still in the center there.
- [Kantan]
Maybe use OD3 instead ? The map would be harder after applying the suggestions below.
- 00:09:139 - add d and add k at 00:10:551 and 00:10:904 - for a better spread with Futsuu ? Currently these spots sound empty. Added.
- 00:23:963 - similar to ^ , you may add d here and add k at 00:30:315 - Added.
- 00:36:315 (41) - maybe remove finish ? It sounds a bit unnecessary. Removed.
- 00:38:080 (43) - consider changing this note to d to match the colour-changing strategy among 00:34:198 (39,40,41,42) - ? That's actually kind of why it wasn't d, because I felt that d k was getting a bit boring here. But this does work here.
- 00:51:845 and 00:52:904 - add d for the increased song pace ? Added.
- 00:58:551 - same as ^ Added as well.
- 01:07:727 (84,85) - swapping these notes to K D would emphasize the vocal-like sound in a way better. Switched them.
- 01:08:786 (86) - this note could be k for hitsound consistency as 00:57:492 (68) - Changed ti to k.
- From 01:21:845 to 01:25:021 - consider making this part denser like this ? I agree with this pattern, aside from there being no note at 01:22:198 - because that's right where the tempo begins to speed up a bit more and feels rather empty without a hitable note there. (cursor at 01:23:257 - and 01:25:021 (112) - is D)
- 01:25:727 - add d, move 01:27:845 (116) - to 01:27:492 - and add d at 01:27:845 - to reduce the gap with Futsuu ? Added, and moved.
- 01:52:904 - you may add k here and change 01:53:257 (160) - to D to make the last finishes more intuitive to play. I actually was told many times having a note at 01:52:904 - would probably be too hard for a Kantan, but I, myself felt that there should be something there. So thank you of reassuring me of this.
- [Futsuu]
- 00:08:433 (8) - consider removing this note to make this part less monotonous ? Removed.
- 00:10:022 (13) - this note could be deleted as consecutive 1/2 notes are rather hard for Futsuu. Removed.
- 00:22:198 - I think you should add d here. It is weird to see that this part is sparser than Kantan. Added.
- 00:25:374 (51) and 00:31:021 (69) - maybe remove these notes to crack the long pattern chains a bit ? Removed both. Albeit the second removal is in a kind of weird place, and I don't know if it sounds completely fine or not.
- From 00:31:374 to 00:34:198 - you may reform this pattern a bit to give a better impact at the end of the kiai: Changed this pattern accordingly. (cursor at 00:32:786 - )
- 00:37:551 (85,86) - swapping these notes to d k would result in a smoother flow. Swapped.
- 00:39:139 (88,89) - delete and add K at 00:39:315 - to follow the way you mapped 00:36:492 (83) - ? Removed.
- 00:48:668 (110) - remove and change 00:49:374 (112) - to k for a better flow ? Removed and changed.
- 00:52:904 - same as Kantan I don't understand what you're telling me here. ;w;
- 00:56:433 (127,128) - maybe K D to fit the stressed sounds more appropriately ? Changed.
- 01:04:727 - add d and change 01:04:904 (152) - to k. I would expect this pattern constellation more. Changed.
- 01:14:786 - consider adding k here for a better spread with Muzukashii ? I added a k here, but I also added a d at 01:14:610 - because otherwise you would have the same pattern as at 01:15:139 (181,182,183) - , but that pattern is more individualized.
- 01:22:198 (199) - maybe remove finish ? It sounds a bit unnecessary. Why was that even there in the first place. lmao. Thanks tho.
- 01:21:492 (196,197,198,199,200) - try d kkd k instead of kdk k d ? This could fit the music well imo. This fits well here.
- 01:27:315 - similar to 00:10:022 (13) - , this note could be deleted as well. Removed this note.
- 01:48:845 (270) - move to 01:48:668 - and change to k ? This 3/2 gap is in fact a bit tricky and does not represent the song well. Moved.
- [Muzukashii]
As mentioned in the previous post, SV changes are not necessary in Muzukashii since it is just an intermediate difficulty. Slider velocity changes may not be completely necessary here, but a Muzukashii is the between of a Normal and Hard. So I feel that having some SV changes adds some color to the overall difficulty.
You should fix the base slider velocity error via notepad:
- 00:34:021 (127) - according to your reply, I guess you have forgotten to remove this note ? Ah yes, I have. Thank you for pointing that out.
- 00:52:727 (201) - then I would recommend moving this note to 00:52:815 - to follow the background music more accurately. Moved.
- 01:31:551 (48) and 01:33:139 (56) - remove finish for a smoother flow. They do not have the strong sound like 01:31:021 (45,49) - Removed.
Honestly, I wouldn't normally use a version of a song with SFX, but I think it sounds very plain and bland without it. And the SFX isn't intensely overdone like in other SDVX songs where the SFX makes it sound COMPLETELY different from the original song. Also Crack Traxxxx has the SFX, and it sounds perfectly fine.Nwolf wrote:
ew why version with sound effects ;_;
OzzyOzrock wrote:
[Muzukashii][Futsuu]
- 01:10:021 (280) - Delete this note, then make 01:10:198 (281,282,283,284) - kkk k? Mainly because this part gets close to Oni due to the simplicity of the patterns. Deleted, and changed.
- 01:13:109 (296) - Delete? Since Oni doesn't have 1/4 here, you may as well not here as well. Removed.
- 01:25:021 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - Fuck it, remove the 2 1/4s that are here. There's only one 1/4 note here, which is at 01:25:815 - so I removed that note.
- 01:41:345 (99) - Deleting this will make it ever slightly less dense. Removed.
- 01:45:052 (119) - Delete this note, so that we can make a nice pattern of 1/4, no 1/4, 1/4 among the patterns in this kiai. Removed.
- 01:46:199 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - Make this k d k d kkk k, then delete 01:47:434 (132,133) - , since this doesn't really fit the song. Changed.
- 01:47:610 (132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143) - Then, kind of remap this with different 1/2s, but make sure 01:49:021 doesn't have a note just because. The pattern here matches pretty well already, but I can see what you mean by that one note. The only change I made was chaning 01:49:374 - to k, since it has the same sound as at 01:49:198 -
- 01:10:904 (170) - k k k? Changed.
- 01:17:610 - Add a k? Just since there's a bunch of empty space. Added.
- 01:31:021 - For this whole kiai you should add some more notes, as Muzu is a much higher step above, and Kantan is almost the same. Also, why are the big notes sometimes D and not K xd I added a couple more notes here, but the reason some are D and others are K becuase just having K K K or D D D like 2 or 3 times within this kiai would kind of make it a tad bit boring. As well as there being different notes beforehand which could play a factor in this.
- 01:52:198 - May as well add notes here and 01:52:374 as a big ending. I added k's at both of those points.
MMzz wrote:
[Oni]
00:09:492 - Would add a note here because of the kicks being more consistent. Added
00:16:727 (63) - This note should be moved to 00:16:815 to follow the melody properly. Also adding a note at 00:17:080 would be a good idea since you are strictly following the melody in this section. Moved and added.
00:23:698 (100) - Move this to 00:23:521 and change it to a don. Then make 00:23:786 (101) - a kat. Follows the rhythm of the song a little better. Moved and changed.
00:24:315 (105) - This can work better as a don and make 00:24:668 (107) - a kat. If you follow it up with the kat I would change to kdk pattern to kkk, ddk or something. Changed both, and made 00:24:845 (110,111,112) - kkd since it's the same as 00:24:138 (105,106,107) -
01:09:315 (374) - Make this a kat? The long string of just dons doesn't help establish the rhythm very much here. Changed.