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This is a feature request. Feature requests can be voted up by supporters.
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DaxMasterix
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
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DaxMasterix
An actual thread about this: p/3778795/ t/274737/
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We already know the actual system is kinda old, right? This need a rework 8-)
No, really, think on this: (Sorry for bad INGLES)
  1. "No Fail" mod = No Rating Allowed PLEASE (Maybe exception for APP maps)
  2. If you ask me, I would like to be nazi on this and just let the rating for who played once the map without mods, Mods distort how the map really looks (Maybe exception for Hidden)
  3. Stop talking about Map, and start talking about DIFFS, please, make the rating individual for each diff. If you're asking I think osu! can make an average for a "BeatMap rating" after it
  4. This can sound stupid but I'm on fire, Why not make an special rating for BN, QAT etc. This can show the "quality" in redguys eyes
Just saying, osu! have a lot of "haters" and stuff men.
Oh and yeah, maybe the second point will be a pinch on the ass for players who can't pass a hard diff, like me.. :? Then go back and L2P NIGGA not really... maybe add a minum of %
For example, if you can get to the 50%+1 of the diff, then you're allowed to rate it. (Just a fast solution, my brain is dead right now)
Please add Ideas, Suggestions. u'know babe ;*

PD: Mapping Likes are subjetive, I know, everyone have the right to hate a map only because the music, only because the mapper, only because that map doesn't give pp, but, It's enought?
#Blamedax

Counter post: p/5148810/
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AncuL
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AncuL
or they can hate a map because that map doesn't give pp (kinda like what was on Tidek's burn this moment because they can't spam the map and it has OD10 unlike c18 or croix)
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Bara-
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Bara-
You don't know how much I agree with this
Colin
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Colin
I agree
Sandy Hoey
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Sandy Hoey
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Sandy Hoey
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Sandy Hoey
Disregard mine, i thought i was writing on a different post lol
-Kanzaki
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-Kanzaki

DaxMasterix wrote:

[*]This can sound stupid but I'm on fire, Why not make an special rating for BN, QAT etc. This can show the "quality" in redguys eyes
Agreed with all but this is stupid as you say.
Underforest
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Underforest
You have my support. Pls, peppy notice this
XinCrin
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XinCrin
A oc
DaxMasterix
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
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Joined February 2010
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DaxMasterix
But nobody came
Constantine
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Joined September 2013
Constantine
yes
Yohanes
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Joined February 2014
Yohanes
Yes!
ZekeyHache
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Joined October 2009
ZekeyHache
Take 5 of my precious stars! (╯°□°)╯☆☆☆☆☆
For me, it would be fine to just allow people with at least ONE ranked mapset to let them rate someone else's mapset ;-;
Allowing only BNs/QATs seems like a good idea too!

Here you have my opinion from my user page which I brought you here so you don't have look for it and that, in case you really wanna read it :v
Don't throw shit at me plz

ezek wrote:

When a beatmap gets ranked it can be rated by any user, and I think this is bad. Why? because anyone without any mapping skills can rate it, and they might not know how "good or bad" the beatmap is. Also, people can rate the map based on how much they like the song, and that is EXTREMELY bad since, obviously the rating focuses on the map. I think this rating system should only allow people with at least one ranked beatmap to rate beatmaps; that way they will have enough skill to understand how mapping works and make an educated opinion on their minds about the mapping. How can you let people without any mapping skills rate a beatmap?! What if it's a very fun and enjoyable MAP but people give it a bad rating just because they don't like the SONG?! Think about it...
Bara-
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Bara-
^^
I know that when I got my first ranked map, a lot of people instantly rated 1
At one part the "1" was higher than "9" and "10"
You just see everyone either rate 9-10 or 1, that's just terrible
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
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Joined April 2013
Seijiro
What about making 2 ratings: one general (where everyone votes as they please) and one "professional" (where only mappers with at least one ranked map, or even just BNs/QATs, can vote)?

The rating itself was created as an indicator of community's appreciation of the mapset. The fact this concept was lost with time is nobody's fault tho.
Bara-
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Bara-
That'd be even better

But... Does that mean my vote counts double? ^_^
pkhg
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pkhg
agree on everything but bn qat thing
also i love if we're able to rate diffs separately, i have favorited some maps only for one diff
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Bara-
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Bara-

pkhg wrote:

DaxMasterix wrote:

But nobody came
dont click
Something

agree on everything but bn qat thing
Erhmmmmm...


Pk, please, no
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pkhg
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pkhg
y r u linking nsfw stuff thats disgusting
pls keep on topic
Underforest
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Underforest
lol
pkhg
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pkhg
forgot to mention that id like to see rating gamemodes separately
maybe converts too like switching gamemode shows different rating and stuff
Bara-
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Bara-
As if autoconverts are of high quality...
DaxMasterix
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
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Glad to see this thread moving on! :D

pkhg wrote:

maybe converts too like switching gamemode shows different rating and stuff
No please, map is mapped by the mapper (lol) in one way, (Maybe in old times with those taikosu! maps) But not now. IMO, If you want a taiko rating then rank a taiko map.

Some other issues, this idea is awesome but, can have a little "problems!" Some issues like
  1. A complety true reset in Map Rating about olders maps
    - Which is fully comprendible if some guys disagree with this (Improve the MRS) cuz the reasons, but Someday this need to change, whats the matter if it's now.
    - I want to say that isn't really neccesary make a true rest, just add the actual Rating as the "Average" Like I explained in the first post. And for the new maps do the new MRS
  2. Attack on freedom of expression
    - OH COME'ON DON'T BE A MORALFAG ejhem. You will be able to do it if you play it. Just saying if you wanna rate, then try pass it how it was mapped (no mods with Hidden mod exception) Oh and maybe the 50%+1 of the map to able rate it's ok. (40% is 2/5 of the map what is acceptable too)
Dunno what more add but try to help me out, oh and please! Call your friend to this discuss so we can Improve the evolution of this thread!
Liiraye
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Liiraye
I don't think it's a good idea to separate rating for each diff. As we all know, it's super easy to forget or just not notice the rating after you finished the map, so then if you wanted to rate it you'd have to play it again (happened to me many times too). A lot of maps already are getting really low amounts of ratings, dividing them even further would not only clog up the rating list, but make no sense as some maps with loads of diffs could have 2x10 votes and be highest rated. Also how would that even show well in the forums? "Highest User Rating: XXXXX's diff in XXXXX's map, originally mapped by XXXYYY"

I've always thought the rating system was flawed, only one 1x rating is enough to sink a top rated map which is pretty shitty.


Adding to this, the way you rate should perhaps be granted at all times if you managed to finish the map once? I don't get why you'd have to play it again if you forgot to rate it. Maybe even make it more noticable?
DaxMasterix
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Liiraye wrote:

it's super easy to forget or just not notice the rating after you finished the map, so then if you wanted to rate it you'd have to play it again
If thats the problem then make osu! allow you to rate the map just going to your replay panel, so Imagine you FC a diff, then go to your replay details and down there will be the star rating for rate the diff if you forgot to rate after play the map.
And maybe you don't missunderstood me, I'm talking about this:

Mapset: Diff 1 , Diff 2 , Diff 3
  1. Case 1: Diff 1 = 9,5 User Rating / Diff 2 = 0 User Rating (Nobody already rate it) / Diff 3 = 7.8 User Rating
    BeatMap Rating = (9,5 + 7.8) : 2 ---> 8.65 = 8.7 User Rating Aprox
  2. Case 2: Diff 1 = 9,5 User Rating / Diff 2 = 8.7 User Rating / Diff 3 = 7.8 User Rating
    BeatMap Rating = (9,5 + 8.7 + 7.8) : 3 ---> 8,66 = 8.7 User Rating Aprox
Dunno if you can understand my weird explanation about maths
Liiraye
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Liiraye
I understand fully, but I don't think it will work. Already we have millions of ratings put, how are these going to be changed accordingly?

If you're gonna average the score each diff gets and make a score for the entire map, what's the point? That's exactly the same as now. The actual map rating won't change to how it already is. Or are you saying the individual diffs score won't affect the maps rating at all? If so, which score are we going to base the maps rating on?
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