Camellia - overcomplexification [Osu|Taiko] · forum

eeezzzeee

Joined August 2013

eeezzzeee 2016-03-22T13:26:54+00:00

CyberX wrote:
00:03:869 (2) - flip this horizontally and then reposition it to x:196 y:328 ?? why spacing so large
00:12:711 (3) - nc here
00:15:238 (3) - nc here no need
00:15:553 (4) - reposition this to x:144 y:244 minimal change tbh but id like to keep the stack with 00:16:185 (3) - anyway
00:19:659 make this SV 0,5 and start a slider from 00:19:659 to 00:20:606
00:21:396 if you do things above get the SV back to 0.8 here no im following the vocal here
00:26:922 (3,4) - reverse this changed it differently
00:40:817 (4) - NC why nc for no reason
01:03:869 (1) - 1/4 sound here 1/8 drumroll in the back
01:04:501 (3,1) - this 2 is to close, maybe doing something like this http://puu.sh/nOxOG/a06dfabf03.jpg is better it plays fine as is imo
01:20:606 (4,7,10) - NC
01:42:711 (6) - NC no need

green = fixed
red = no
blue = other

thanks for modding! c:

cyber update

osu file format v14

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Title:overcomplexification
TitleUnicode:overcomplexification
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
Version:eze's Extra
Source:jubeat prop
Tags:eeezzzeee HB24 -Tochi FCL Strategas Nwolf
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Jon

99 posts

Joined April 2015

Jon 2016-03-23T00:19:26+00:00

hey there! from my queue

mod

Normal:
00:07:027 (1) - this slider could look so much better
00:28:659 (5) - this slider is so confusing to play, considering that on the white beat before it there's a note in the music but not in the map. very confusing to the new player
00:33:711 (3) - just pointing out how this is okay because since there are no circles, it makes it much simpler for the new player to play without the beat
00:43:975 (4) - this note is let go (in the music) on the next white beat, why not in the map?
01:52:501 (3) - you can repeat this

Hard:
00:12:080 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern (which you do 3 times) you should probably put some space between each of the 3, but keep the space even
00:17:132 (1) - ctrl+g'ing this seems nice
00:22:185 (1) - each time i play through to this note, i'm always early. might be just me, but it should be moved to the right a bit
00:36:396 (1) - if you ctrl+g this you can end up moving 00:37:027 (3) - like this

00:53:606 (4,5,6) - this triplet is actually a bit before where you placed it. i suggest you either delete 00:53:764 (6) - and move 4&5 back a beat, or just removing the original 5.
01:32:132 (3,4) - ctrl+g and then move 01:32:606 (5) - on the top right of (6) seems better than your confusing placement now

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-03-23T01:08:02+00:00

zshadowjon wrote:
hey there! from my queue

mod
Normal:
00:07:027 (1) - this slider could look so much better It could but i think its fine atm.
00:28:659 (5) - this slider is so confusing to play, considering that on the white beat before it there's a note in the music but not in the map. very confusing to the new player Totaly agree, Fixed.
00:33:711 (3) - just pointing out how this is okay because since there are no circles, it makes it much simpler for the new player to play without the beat ^ ^ ^
00:43:975 (4) - this note is let go (in the music) on the next white beat, why not in the map? Extended the slider and the similar one that follows.
01:52:501 (3) - you can repeat this Fixed!

Hard:
00:12:080 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern (which you do 3 times) you should probably put some space between each of the 3, but keep the space even Fixed!
00:17:132 (1) - ctrl+g'ing this seems nice Sure does. Fixed!
00:22:185 (1) - each time i play through to this note, i'm always early. might be just me, but it should be moved to the right a bit Can't really notice it so leaving it as it is for now.
00:36:396 (1) - if you ctrl+g this you can end up moving 00:37:027 (3) - like this Following the Ctrl+G but moved the notes differently.
00:53:606 (4,5,6) - this triplet is actually a bit before where you placed it. i suggest you either delete 00:53:764 (6) - and move 4&5 back a beat, or just removing the original 5. Fixed!
01:32:132 (3,4) - ctrl+g and then move 01:32:606 (5) - on the top right of (6) seems better than your confusing placement now This is a great suggestion, Fixed!

Thanks for the mod!

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2016-03-23T11:38:25+00:00

CyberX wrote:
-Tochi's Complex
00:06:396 (5) - NC maybe? Kinda random
00:07:975 (1) - NC ^
00:25:817 (1) - i think NC shouldnt be here instead of here 00:25:974 (3) It already is?
00:35:448 (1) - NC Fixed!
00:53:132 (1) - NC It's a bit random here
01:13:659 (1) - NC ^
cant find any problematic here,its already perfect for me
Good Luck

Thanks for the mod! Update:

code

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ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
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mulraf

1,067 posts

Joined January 2012

mulraf 2016-03-23T19:35:56+00:00

Hey from my queue!

General:
- Uhm... i'm not to experienced with hitsounds. but are you sure there are no unnessercary files in the song folder? plenty of hitsounds are there twice or even more times

Easy:
- 00:08:922 (5) - NC here already instead of at the next note. may also NC at 00:07:975 (4) - instead.
- 01:00:080 (3) - NC

Normal:
- 01:43:501 (2) - Add a note

Hard:
- 01:11:448 (1) - Let this slider point into >exactly< the same direction as 01:11:764 (2) - . If you copy it and stack it to that one you will notice a sliight difference.
- 01:22:185 (2) - ^ (copy the slider before that)

Hyper:
- 00:28:343 (4,5,6,1,2) - to me that neither looks like good spacing nor a good pattern

either space it correctly or try to make it a symettrical pattern imho.
- 01:14:922 (1) - I don't know, that kinda sounds wrong. i like the slider shape but sadly i'd let it end earlier at the red tick and would undo the whistle at the end of the slider since i don't think that should be empathized. i guess it's fine if you let it end at this tick but at least undo the whistle

Insane:
- change HP drain to 6. it's a bit hard and even the diffs after it have a lower drain.
- 01:19:185 (1) - stack to 01:18:711 (8) - maybe?

Extra:
overall really really stunning diff here. can't complain.

I'm gonna stop here since the other 2 diffs are just too hard for me and i'm rather bad with modding higher diffs :/
Good luck, nice mapset you got there :3

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-03-24T00:26:37+00:00

mulraf wrote:
Hey from my queue!

General:
- Uhm... i'm not to experienced with hitsounds. but are you sure there are no unnessercary files in the song folder? plenty of hitsounds are there twice or even more times I'm fairly sure all the hitsounds there are accounted for, unless someone else brings it up otherwise.

Normal:
- 01:43:501 (2) - Add a note No need, since it matches the slider before and after, feels like an overmap to me.

Hard:
- 01:11:448 (1) - Let this slider point into >exactly< the same direction as 01:11:764 (2) - . If you copy it and stack it to that one you will notice a sliight difference. Fixed!
- 01:22:185 (2) - ^ (copy the slider before that) Fixed!

Insane:
- change HP drain to 6. it's a bit hard and even the diffs after it have a lower drain. I didn't even notice that :< Changed.
- 01:19:185 (1) - stack to 01:18:711 (8) - maybe? Fixed!

I'm gonna stop here since the other 2 diffs are just too hard for me and i'm rather bad with modding higher diffs :/
Good luck, nice mapset you got there :3

Thank you and thanks for the mod!

Annadine

490 posts

Joined July 2015

Annadine 2016-03-28T17:31:45+00:00

Hello! NM from modding queue~!
Cool map ><

Insane[]

01:01:659 (3,4,5) - I don't know if you did this on purpose but it's not an even spacing
And what about moving 01:02:606 (1) - to exactly where 01:01:659 (3) - was
Um, move 01:41:764 (1) - a bit to the left? To make 01:41:448 (6,7,1) - nicer to play

FCL's Hyper[]

00:39:238 (1,1,1,1) - not a perfect rhombus? Move 00:39:659 (1) - down

Hard[]

00:19:659 (1) - I think this would be better, uh, on the left side of 00:19:343 (4) - ? for better reading and pattern
00:44:764 (4,1) - I think this is too far and too sudden. Even 00:49:817 (4,1) - is not that far.
00:59:922 (4,1) - Is this supposed to be a blanket? Then move the end of 01:00:080 (1) - to make it a more better blanket.
01:18:238 (2,3) - I think this could be a better blanket too...

Normal[]

01:04:501 (5) - inconsistent spacing
01:10:817 (2) - I think this could be a better blanket

[]

Sorry for the short mod, but this is not the kind of song I would enjoy, and I can't mod >5* ;w;
Overall is very interesting tho. Good luck~

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-03-29T01:17:23+00:00

Annadine wrote:

Hello! NM from modding queue~!
Cool map ><

Insane[]
01:01:659 (3,4,5) - I don't know if you did this on purpose but it's not an even spacing Fixed!
And what about moving 01:02:606 (1) - to exactly where 01:01:659 (3) - was Fixed!
Um, move 01:41:764 (1) - a bit to the left? To make 01:41:448 (6,7,1) - nicer to play Fixed!

Hard[]
00:19:659 (1) - I think this would be better, uh, on the left side of 00:19:343 (4) - ? for better reading and pattern Fixed!
00:44:764 (4,1) - I think this is too far and too sudden. Even 00:49:817 (4,1) - is not that far. Fixed!
00:59:922 (4,1) - Is this supposed to be a blanket? Then move the end of 01:00:080 (1) - to make it a more better blanket. Fixed!
01:18:238 (2,3) - I think this could be a better blanket too... Fixed!
Normal[]
01:04:501 (5) - inconsistent spacing Fixed!
01:10:817 (2) - I think this could be a better blanket Fixed!
[]
Sorry for the short mod, but this is not the kind of song I would enjoy, and I can't mod >5* ;w;
Overall is very interesting tho. Good luck~

Thanks for the mod! Good little touch-ups you caught out.

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-03-30T21:12:10+00:00

Ono modded

Inner Oni

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: overcomplexification.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 87869
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 106738
DistanceSpacing: 0.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.5

[Metadata]
Title:overcomplexification
TitleUnicode:overcomplexification
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
Version:Nwolf's Inner Oni
Source:jubeat prop
Tags:eeezzzeee HB24 -Tochi FCL Strategas Nwolf
BeatmapID:869322
BeatmapSetID:378212

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6.5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6.5
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"complex.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Please delete 00:11:764 - in Oni and Muzukashii

Last edited by Nwolf 2016-03-31T10:41:24+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

OnosakiHito

osu!taiko Paragon

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OnosakiHito 2016-03-30T21:14:50+00:00

Nwolf asked about my opinion regarding the SV changes. In general I think it should be fine, since the patterns seem to fit to the pace of the song and are also easy to read. Nontheless, some SV changes were placed on notes with odd snapping behaviour, which made reading them very hard. You couldn't figure out when to hit certain notes since the visualization of notes is distorted. To make it better readable, I suggested to keep the SV in such cases consistent, so the correlation between notes and snapping can be better understood. The points we were talking about are listed downbelow:

00:05:448 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) -
00:38:606 -
00:56:448 (107,108,109) -

Gave also some pattern suggestions. I will post the IRC log here.

SPOILER

21:25 *Nwolf is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/869322 Camellia - overcomplexification]
21:27 *OnosakiHito is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/869322 Camellia - overcomplexification [Nwolf's Inner Oni]] <Taiko> +Hidden
21:29 OnosakiHito: Also, das sah schon mal okay aus. Aber einigen stellen sind wirklich sehr schwer zu verstehen.
21:29 Nwolf: fu
21:29 OnosakiHito: Weil einige noten aufgrund der Musik nicht linear verlaufen,
21:30 OnosakiHito: und auf diesen Noten dann auch noch SV changes zu packen ist wirklich gefährlich.
21:30 OnosakiHito: Da müssen wir mal richtig drüber gucken.
21:32 Nwolf: ich hab absolut keine Ahnung was du (oder der sich beschwerende BN) meinen könnte
21:32 OnosakiHito: Ich zeige es dir.
21:33 Nwolf: wär nett
21:35 OnosakiHito: 00:56:290 - Diese Stelle mal als Beispiel. Wir haben von 00:56:132 - bis 00:57:080 - vier Lücken, welche drei davon von der länger her sich unterscheiden.
21:35 OnosakiHito: Es ist kein Problem sie zu spielen wenn die SV gleich ist.
21:35 OnosakiHito: ABer da du dort vesrcheiden SV Änderungen gemacht hast, ist es nur sehr schwer nachzuvollziehen,
21:35 OnosakiHito: wie die noten eigentlich gespielt werden.
21:36 OnosakiHito: Du kannt dich also so gesehen nicht mehr wirklich auf das visuelle verlassen.
21:36 OnosakiHito: Weil du nicht genau weißt, wann du die Noten anschlagen musst.
21:37 Nwolf: hmhm
21:37 OnosakiHito: 00:56:448 (107,108,109) - wäre das hier nun z.b. alles 1/2,
21:37 OnosakiHito: wäre es okay.
21:37 Nwolf: ich glauch ich weiß was
21:37 OnosakiHito: Weil es ja dann linear zu spielen wäre.
21:37 Nwolf: 00:57:080 - wenn ich hier einfach 0.95x mache und um 0.01 erhöhe pro note?
21:37 Nwolf: oder 0.9 und 0.02
21:38 OnosakiHito: Du meinst 0.01 pro note bis 0.95x erhöhen?
21:39 OnosakiHito: Oder meinst du von 00:57:080 - aus, Vorwärts?
21:39 OnosakiHito: Weil das 00:57:080 (110,111,112,113,114) - Pattern hat mit dem was vorher passiert wenig zu tun.
21:39 OnosakiHito: Es geht größtenteils um 00:56:448 (107,108,109) - .
21:40 OnosakiHito: (109) ist der Schlüsselfaktor zu diesem Problem.
21:40 Nwolf: ja ich weiß
21:40 Nwolf: wenn ich dort aber die SV wegmache muss ich die danach ändern

21:40 OnosakiHito: Das hat es halt so insich wenn man die SV ändern muss.
21:41 OnosakiHito: Aber so wie es im Moment ist, wäre es bestimmt ein DQ wert.
21:41 OnosakiHito: Ich zeige dir mal was z.b. total easy zu spielen ist:
21:41 OnosakiHito: 00:25:185 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) -
21:41 Nwolf: deswegen frag ich ja auch <3
21:41 OnosakiHito: Gar kein Problem.
21:41 OnosakiHito: Weil alles 1/4. Kann man lesen.
[...]
21:48 OnosakiHito: Einiges sollte/muss geändert werden.
21:48 Nwolf: jo
21:48 OnosakiHito: Und am aller wichtisgten: Die Meinung von viele usern holen.
21:48 OnosakiHito: Das ist so eine Sache, da würde nicht mals ich, selbst wenn ich denke es ist okay, einfach bubbeln.
21:49 Nwolf: ich hab ja einige mods
21:49 OnosakiHito: Ich denke ich werde mal einen KOmmentar dazu abgeben im Forum, damit sich das die Leute mal angucken können.
21:49 Nwolf: 00:56:290 - hab hier eine feste 0.95 SV reingebaut, wird auf den 1/4 um 0.01 erhöht
21:49 OnosakiHito: Werde dir die problematischen patterns angeben.
21:49 Nwolf: ach noch mehr? :C
21:50 Nwolf: oder bei patterns dann doch eher 01:00:869 (136,137,138,139) - ? C:
21:50 OnosakiHito: Niemals auf 1/6 SV changes.
21:51 OnosakiHito: Das wäre grotesk. Ganz ehrlich. lol
21:51 Nwolf: da sind auch keine
21:51 OnosakiHito: Ach, ich dachte du wolltest es als lösung angeben.
21:51 Nwolf: nene
21:52 Nwolf: hab mich nur gewundert ob es mehr SV stellen gibt oder ob du wirklich patterns wie diese 1/6 meinst
21:52 OnosakiHito: SV changes.
21:52 OnosakiHito: Ach weißt du was, wieso mod post wenn ich auch IRC mod machen kann.
21:52 Nwolf: ach ja stell dir vor ich hatte tatsächlich mal 1.75x ninjas!!
21:53 OnosakiHito: 00:05:448 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - Die SV für diese patterns würde ich bin erhöhen wenn möglich. Das ist eher meine eigene Meinung dazu,
21:53 OnosakiHito: aber ich finde pattern sind wirklich eng bei einander.
21:53 OnosakiHito: Man könnte es ruhig ein wenig auflockern.
21:53 OnosakiHito: Damit es erkennbarer wird das die finisher auch 1/2 sind.
21:53 Nwolf: also wie später vielleicht erhöhen und verlangsamen?
21:53 Nwolf: 00:53:922 -
21:54 OnosakiHito: Lass uns von ANfang an anfangen.
21:54 Nwolf: ich frag ob ich es wie an der Stelle machen soll
21:54 Nwolf: finisher = speed up, 1/4 = speed down
21:56 OnosakiHito: Ach so
21:56 OnosakiHito: Ich meine das würde hier nicht passen.
21:56 Nwolf: hab mal 0.9-0.95-1 auf den finishern und auf den letzten 4 1/4 noten jeweils -0.02
21:57 OnosakiHito: Am einfachsten wäre es einfach, die SV 00:01:975 - bissen zu eröhen und das war's.
21:57 Nwolf: 00:12:080 - dann geht die SV hier aber nicht mehr
21:58 OnosakiHito: Klar.
21:58 OnosakiHito: oh
21:58 Nwolf: 00:05:685 - hab einfach hier 1x SV
21:59 OnosakiHito: Das könnte klappen.
21:59 OnosakiHito: 00:07:343 - und hier wieder x0.75?
22:00 Nwolf: jop
22:00 OnosakiHito: Ausserdem schlage ich dir vor die note 00:11:764 (32) - zu entfernen. Da ist keine, und macht es verwirrend zu spielen,
22:00 OnosakiHito: weil die SV 0.75 macht es schwerer zu erkennen wie die noten gesnapped sind.
22:01 OnosakiHito: 00:11:369 (31) - führt dazu das du nun gar nicht weißt wann 00:11:764 (32) - gespielt werden muss.
22:01 OnosakiHito: Wenn du (32) jedoch entfernst, hast du dieses Problem nicht mehr.
22:02 Nwolf: 00:11:764 - ach ist hier wirklich kein melodie sound
22:02 Nwolf: fieses camellia
22:02 OnosakiHito: Zummindest kein Piano was du vorher gefolgt bist.
22:02 Nwolf: 00:11:369 (31) - was hier halt ist
22:02 Nwolf: da ist einfach wirklich keins
22:03 OnosakiHito: (31) kannst du behalten. ABer (32) ist nicht nötig und macht alles nu komplizierter im snapping.
22:03 Nwolf: habs in allen diffs weggemacht
22:03 OnosakiHito: Okay.
22:04 OnosakiHito: 00:15:553 - Diese Note sollte kat sein wenn du mich fragst.
22:04 Nwolf: bin kurz mitm hund gassi
22:04 OnosakiHito: Oh okay.
22:11 Nwolf: wieder da
22:11 Nwolf: ja abends ist nicht lang gassi :C
22:12 Nwolf: habs kat gemacht
22:22 OnosakiHito: ok
22:25 OnosakiHito: 00:17:606 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62) - Verschieb die note 57 nach 00:17:369 - und 61 zu 00:17:843 -
22:26 OnosakiHito: Das würder denke ich besser passen weil du hier 00:17:132 (53,54,55) - nichts mehr hast.
22:27 OnosakiHito: Entweder würde man noch einen kat erwarten, oder schon direkt am anfang der stanza eine änderung der density.
22:27 OnosakiHito: SO wie du es jetzt hats, ist es verschoben. Um ehrlich zu, kann ich es wirklich nicht besser beschreiben.
22:27 OnosakiHito: Überleg einfach ob du es änder willst oder nicht.
22:28 Nwolf: es passt voll zu den kats im stream danach
22:30 Nwolf: wie kann es sein dass ich jetzt eine grüne linie zu viel hab
22:30 Nwolf: LOL
22:33 OnosakiHito: 00:38:606 (54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63) - Du solltest die hier vielleicht besser auf einer SV lassen. Es ist nicht so schlimm wie bei der kommenden SV,
22:33 OnosakiHito: aber es ist dennoch schwer abzulesen wie die finisher nun richtig gesetzt sind.
22:34 OnosakiHito: Man kann da aber denke ich nicht viel machen, da die finisher selbst auf SV 1.4 komisch zu spielen wären.
22:35 Nwolf: hm dann geht der effekt ein bisschen verloren
22:35 Nwolf: 00:37:659 - 00:38:290 - wie bei denen
22:36 OnosakiHito: Vielleicht kannst du es erst mal so lassen.
22:36 OnosakiHito: 00:56:448 (107,108,109) - Darüber haben wir schon gesprochen. Ich denke ich kann das erst mal dir überlassen?
22:37 Nwolf: ich hab den 1.35 finisher auf 1.25 runtergesetzt
22:37 Nwolf: vielleicht hilft das schon
22:37 Nwolf: wie gesagt hab da 0.95 gemacht und bei den 1/4 noten 0.01 erhöhung
22:37 Nwolf: ~soft SV~
22:38 OnosakiHito: Ja, kannste so lassen. Sieht für mich schon mal besser aus. lol
22:38 OnosakiHito: 01:26:606 - The volume should be louder to give a better feedback when hitting the notes. Playing more clustered notes with just a little feedback is always trouble some.
22:38 OnosakiHito: ^ aus meinem post.
22:38 OnosakiHito: Vielleicht wäre es sogar besser, es einfach weg zu lassen.
22:39 OnosakiHito: Weil ganz ehrlich Nwolf, die 1/4 im hintegrund kann nur wirklich sehr schwer hören.
22:39 OnosakiHito: Nichts was man wirklich mappen sollte.
22:39 OnosakiHito: Auch sind die patterns irre führend, weil schon vorher sounds angegeben sind,
22:39 OnosakiHito: und man denkt dann, das dein pattern diese sounds weiterfürht.
22:39 OnosakiHito: Was nicht der Fall ist.
22:40 Nwolf: d _ _ d _ _ d k? (1/2)
22:40 OnosakiHito: Genau, dies sounds.
22:40 OnosakiHito: ach warte
22:40 OnosakiHito: Ja!
22:40 OnosakiHito: Das ist besser.
22:40 Nwolf: !
22:40 Nwolf: aber meine 798 combo!!!
22:41 OnosakiHito: Volume bissen höher setzen wäre dennoch angebracht.
22:41 OnosakiHito: Denke ich zummindest.
22:41 Nwolf: hab 68%
22:41 Nwolf: 60% ist auch zu leise, 75% ist zu laut
22:41 OnosakiHito: 70%
22:41 OnosakiHito: YEY
22:41 Nwolf: 70% ist voll lame
22:41 OnosakiHito: Jo, ist okay.
22:42 OnosakiHito: 01:39:159 (102) - Ich denke besser ist es die note weg zu machen.
22:42 Nwolf: ich frag mich immer noch wie tasuke mehr Noten in seiner map haben kann zzz
22:42 OnosakiHito: Zummindest mir ist es sofort aufgefallen, das da eigentlich nichts ist.
22:42 OnosakiHito: Und dann kannst du kd dk zu dk dk umwechseln?
22:43 OnosakiHito: Meiner Meinung nach, passt es so wesentlich besser.
22:45 Nwolf: hmmm ne das kd dk lass ich
22:45 Nwolf: wenn ich es mit dem Rest der kiai vergleiche
22:46 Nwolf: 01:29:132 (12,13) - dk 01:30:396 (23,24) - kd und hier wäre es 01:39:238 (102,104) - kd 01:40:501 (115,116) - dk
22:49 OnosakiHito: ok
22:49 OnosakiHito: 01:46:817 - d und 01:46:975 - k. In einen downbeat mit dkk rein zu gehen ist sehr odd.
22:50 Nwolf: 01:46:817 - hier ist ne snare drauf für das kddkddkdd
22:50 OnosakiHito: Mit ddkk... anzufangen macht es den stream wesentlich angenehmer zu spielen.
22:50 OnosakiHito: Okay, wie wäre es dann hiermit:
22:50 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/nZSza/2f1f8ebca6.png
22:51 OnosakiHito: damit würde sich die "linearität" der noten sofort einspielen lassen.
22:51 OnosakiHito: Passen tut es auch.
22:52 Nwolf: 01:46:738 (167) - ich hab das hier einfach zu don gemacht
22:52 Nwolf: 01:46:106 (161) - und das hier
22:53 OnosakiHito: auch in ordnung
22:56 OnosakiHito: 01:05:132 - bis 01:07:501 - muss noch mal gründlich bereinigt werden denke ich.
22:56 OnosakiHito: z.b. ist 01:05:290 (35) - nicht das ende vom 1/4 sound,
22:56 OnosakiHito: sondern 01:05:369 -
22:57 Nwolf: hä
22:57 Nwolf: für mich hört es sich nur so an als ob es gehalten wird
22:57 OnosakiHito: Es wird auch gehalten. War im unrecht.
22:59 Nwolf: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4828230 01:11:053 -
23:03 OnosakiHito: Naja, der rest ist in Ordnung.
23:03 Nwolf: ok~
23:03 OnosakiHito: Habe eigentlich nichts anderes zu sagen.
23:03 Nwolf: danke :3
23:03 OnosakiHito: Ich werde mal den IRC in forum posten und den leuten bescheid geben worüber wir geredet habem

As I said, I do believe the SV changes in general are nice. No overlapping. Seems to follow the pace of the song in a fair way. And very readable(even on HD). Yet, I would recommend to find some more opinions about this, just to make sure we can really go for it in this way.

Good luck!

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-03-31T00:19:37+00:00

Updated

Shoga

232 posts

Joined January 2015

Shoga 2016-04-08T07:33:54+00:00

Mod

FCL's Hyper

00:08:606 (1,2,3,4,1) - This is just the start of the song, and it is just a hyper diff plus this spacing is rather big compare the half of the song.
00:54:080 (1,2,3,4) - I feel like the single tap stacks here might be sightread as a stream by the players.
00:59:132 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:54:553 (4) - I think there is no beat there. If u just place a beat there for the map density plz use a slider at 00:54:396 (3) to 00:54:553 (4)
00:59:606 (4) - ^
~~01:34:817 (3,4,5,6) - yes this is very gimmicky but it plays not that well imo. plz fix~~ nvm this it plays fine
01:47:922 (4,1) - Space those two out a bit. Players might break on the slow slider. Increase ds might be the solution
01:49:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - Like 00:08:606 (1,2,3,4,1)
01:50:290 (5) - place that down a bit for better visual feeling? : )

Insane

00:31:343 (3,4) - This might be overmapped, careful! The spacing like that at that angle is kinda tricky to hit.
01:08:448 (8) - Try Ctrl + g there. It looks cooler
01:09:238 (2) - ^ As u can see here that the repeat slider-end head toward the stream which might minimize the slider break or a missed combo count.
01:10:343 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - wow this is evil for an insane grin emoticon
01:12:238 (8,9) - Players might read this as a fast double. May be space it? idk it might affect this part right afterward 01:14:764 (4,5) ? Or you can try put a woofy slider 01:14:922 (5) to emphasize the beat there then you can space this 01:12:238 (8,9) instead of stacking it.

eze's Extra

00:39:448 (1,1,1) - Increase spacing a bit?
01:52:501 (2) - Move down a little bit?

I don't know what to mod for the other diffs (=_=)" This is f#kn' emo man!

Good luck, m8~
And thank for using the queue

Last edited by Shoga 2016-04-08T15:56:15+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-04-08T08:19:14+00:00

Shoga wrote:

Mod
Insane
00:31:343 (3,4) - This might be overmapped, careful! The spacing like that at that angle is kinda tricky to hit. I think it fits well but we'll see with other mods.
01:08:448 (8) - Try Ctrl + g there. It looks cooler Changed.
01:09:238 (2) - ^ As u can see here that the repeat slider-end head toward the stream which might minimize the slider break or a missed combo count. Nice pick up, Changed.
01:10:343 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - wow this is evil for an insane grin emoticon Maybe, it can be expected since 01:05:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - is similar but w/e, i think its fitting.
01:12:238 (8,9) - Players might read this as a fast double. May be space it? idk it might affect this part right afterward 01:14:764 (4,5) ? Or you can try put a woofy slider 01:14:922 (5) to emphasize the beat there then you can space this 01:12:238 (8,9) instead of stacking it. I've had a lot of changes in this area in regards to replacing the stacked notes with a slider and i think it doesn't fit well or looks silly, I moved the 2nd note and the start of the NC to compensate.

I don't know what to mod for the other diffs (=_=)" This is f#kn' emo man! -
Good luck, m8~
And thank for using the queue

Thankyou for the mod!

Namki

1,281 posts

Joined November 2014

Namki 2016-04-09T09:54:55+00:00

Hello.

HB's Easy

Combocolors aren't set.
00:37:659 (1) - seems like you forgot finish here.
00:44:922 (1) - compare to 00:55:027 (1) - this you should add whistle.
01:37:975 (1) - minor, but try to avoid overlap.
01:30:396 (1) - whistle at slider's end.
Just my suggestion, but... I don't like flow 01:30:396 (1,2,3) - here, maybe do something like this. and those two 01:32:606 (4,1) - like this?

Normal

Press ctrl+a and watch. Most of yours object are mapped in center of the diff, you shouldn't remap but try to map in the corners too.
00:06:396 (4) - add whistle to the circle, because of those two 00:03:869 (3) - 00:08:922 (3) - .
00:29:764 (1,1) - recover time between spinner and object in Normal should be 2/1.
00:43:975 (4) - not the best idea to make 1/6 repeat in Normal.
00:44:922 (1) - ctrl+g and place it by distance snap.
00:48:396 (3,4) - make spacing 1.2x.
01:00:080 (1,2) - no-no, 1.9x is too hard for Normal.
01:02:606 - from here remap this with one spacing value. Jumps in Normal diff are unrankable, especially those 2x jumps 01:09:553 (4,1) - .
01:36:711 (4) - blue tick in Normal is also bad idea.
01:45:553 (1,2) - please, no jumps in Normal.

Hard

00:19:659 (1) - finish will fit good here.
01:12:711 (1) - soft whistle here?
01:37:659 (4) - normal whistle at slider's head, because of 01:32:606 (5) - and 01:42:711 (4) - .
01:52:501 (2) - make it longer, until 01:52:817 - here.

FCL's Insane

Комбоколоры отличаются от других дифф.
00:34:817 (1) - финиш~. Ибо звучит пусто.
01:16:817 (3) - вот сюда можно свисток поставить.
Есть еще предложение укоротить спиннер 01:25:422 (1) - до белого тика.
01:48:080 (1) - а сюда финиш софтовый давай.
01:52:501 (2) - его можно до сюда 01:52:817 - или до 01:52:764 - сюда продлить. Звук-то идет.

good luck~

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-04-09T11:31:01+00:00

Purple = Taken into consideration

Blue = Change

Red = No Change

Namki wrote:
Hello.

Normal
Press ctrl+a and watch. Most of yours object are mapped in center of the diff, you shouldn't remap but try to map in the corners too. I'll look into that.
00:06:396 (4) - add whistle to the circle, because of those two 00:03:869 (3) - 00:08:922 (3) - . Fixed!
00:29:764 (1,1) - recover time between spinner and object in Normal should be 2/1. I'll see what other mods have to say
00:43:975 (4) - not the best idea to make 1/6 repeat in Normal. I believe it's fine, its not difficult and doesn't lead to anything for a ew beats.
00:44:922 (1) - ctrl+g and place it by distance snap. Done and done.
00:48:396 (3,4) - make spacing 1.2x. It already is?
01:00:080 (1,2) - no-no, 1.9x is too hard for Normal. What? how is that too hard?
01:02:606 - from here remap this with one spacing value. Jumps in Normal diff are unrankable, especially those 2x jumps 01:09:553 (4,1) - . Moved some stuff.
01:36:711 (4) - blue tick in Normal is also bad idea. Will leave it up to other mods.
01:45:553 (1,2) - please, no jumps in Normal. Barely a jump but sure.
Hard
00:19:659 (1) - finish will fit good here. Fixed!
01:12:711 (1) - soft whistle here? Mmm going to leave it as it is.
01:37:659 (4) - normal whistle at slider's head, because of 01:32:606 (5) - and 01:42:711 (4) - .
01:52:501 (2) - make it longer, until 01:52:817 - here. Leaving it because it matches with the other diffs.
good luck~

Thanks for the mod!

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

FCL 2016-04-11T07:51:12+00:00

Thanks guys, fixed something

osu file format v14

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Chiraux

104 posts

Joined August 2015

Chiraux 2016-04-27T21:45:30+00:00

Hello! I'm making a GD, just so you know I'm advance. If you don't want it, it's cool, and it might be a Light Extra or something. I hope this gets ranked!

EDIT:Also should I hitsound it myself?

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-04-28T01:11:42+00:00

Neglection wrote:
Hello! I'm making a GD, just so you know I'm advance. If you don't want it, it's cool, and it might be a Light Extra or something. I hope this gets ranked!

I'm not really looking for GD's at all since its pretty far in, sorry.

Vivyanne

1,215 posts

Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2016-05-03T18:40:25+00:00

this was meant to be a mod from my queue

BUT EVERYTHING IS FINE I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING

so have a star instead, i owe you a mod tho

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-05-04T02:02:08+00:00

HighTec wrote:
this was meant to be a mod from my queue

BUT EVERYTHING IS FINE I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING

so have a star instead, i owe you a mod tho

No worries

thanks for the star!

DeRandom Otaku

2,136 posts

Joined November 2014

DeRandom Otaku 2016-05-05T14:02:34+00:00

Hi~ from queue

General :

soo ~ u should add the genre of the song in tags
uhm u forgot to choose combo colors in easy and normal

-Tochi's Complex :

00:25:658 (1) - remove nc
00:35:448 (2) - nc
00:35:448 (2) - try a 1/6 or 1/8 slider cuz 1/4 feels slow here
01:25:659 (2) - move it 2 grids to left

Strategas' Extra :

turn off widescreen storyboard
00:19:658 (5) - nc
00:38:922 (1) - move it 1 grid to left

Insane :

Decrease OD
01:07:343 (5) - 1/3 slider here

Thats all~

Good luck!~

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-05-06T02:13:10+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
Hi~ from queue

General :
soo ~ u should add the genre of the song in tags Fixed.
uhm u forgot to choose combo colors in easy and normal Fixed.
Insane :
Decrease OD Don't feel its necessary.
01:07:343 (5) - 1/3 slider here Leaving it as it is. Adds to the craziness of this section.
Thats all~

Good luck!~

Thanks for the mod!

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2016-05-07T14:58:33+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
-Tochi's Complex :
00:25:658 (1) - remove nc Fixed!
00:35:448 (2) - nc Not necessary here.
00:35:448 (2) - try a 1/6 or 1/8 slider cuz 1/4 feels slow here Wait, u linked the same time as the above D:
01:25:659 (2) - move it 2 grids to left Fixed!
Good luck!~

Thanks!

Update

osu file format v14

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Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
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Source:jubeat prop
Tags:eeezzzeee HB24 -Tochi FCL Strategas Nwolf
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Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-05-07T15:23:33+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
Strategas' Extra :
turn off widescreen storyboard no storyboard, but ok
00:19:658 (5) - nc nop
00:38:922 (1) - move it 1 grid to left yes

thanks for checking my diff

ex

osu file format v14

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Title:overcomplexification
TitleUnicode:overcomplexification
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
Version:Strategas' Extra
Source:jubeat prop
Tags:eeezzzeee HB24 -Tochi FCL Strategas Nwolf
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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

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Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2016-06-20T17:59:09+00:00

Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested by Nwolf.

[General@Ambient]

Tags in Insane difficulty conflicts with all the remaining difficulties.
Consider using this as background image ? The current background resolution is 1365x768, which is one pixel less optimal.

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]

00:07:027 (13) - consider changing this note to d to keep it consistent with 00:01:975 (1) - ?
00:31:975 (48,49) - maybe remove finish ? I think they are a bit overemphasized as the sounds are relatively weaker than that at 00:32:290 -
00:32:053 - you may add k here to fit the ringing sounds if you apply ^
00:41:922 (41,42) - consider swapping these notes to d k to fit the pitch increase there ? 00:41:764 (40,42) - have the same pitch, so k d k would sound better.
01:00:396 (83,84) - d K would make more sense instead of D k since the sound at 01:00:396 - is less prominent than 01:00:553 -
01:52:343 (9,10,11) - try k d k here ? The pitch of music at 01:52:343 - is quite high.

[Nwolf's Oni]

00:15:553 (41) - maybe k as you did in Muzukashii ?
00:31:975 (66,67) - same suggestion of 1/4 triplet as Muzukashii
00:41:922 - consider adding d here and changing 00:42:080 (54) - to k ? Currently it is a bit undermapped imo.
01:52:343 (10,11,12) - same as Muzukashii

[Nwolf's Inner Oni]

00:46:659 (31,32,33,34) - swapping these notes to ddkk could fit the rhythm well.
01:09:948 (86) - consider changing this note to k to follow the high-pitched background sounds better ?
01:52:343 (10,11,12,13) - similar to Muzukashii, k dkd would accompany the pitch changes nicely.

You may call me back after that~

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-06-20T19:28:24+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested by Nwolf.

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]
00:07:027 (13) - consider changing this note to d to keep it consistent with 00:01:975 (1) - ? changed
00:31:975 (48,49) - maybe remove finish ? I think they are a bit overemphasized as the sounds are relatively weaker than that at 00:32:290 -
00:32:053 - you may add k here to fit the ringing sounds if you apply ^ changed in Oni too
00:41:922 (41,42) - consider swapping these notes to d k to fit the pitch increase there ? 00:41:764 (40,42) - have the same pitch, so k d k would sound better. ye
01:00:396 (83,84) - d K would make more sense instead of D k since the sound at 01:00:396 - is less prominent than 01:00:553 - must have been a mistake, oops
01:52:343 (9,10,11) - try k d k here ? The pitch of music at 01:52:343 - is quite high. I find the pitch fall on the k d more important tho
[Nwolf's Oni]
00:15:553 (41) - maybe k as you did in Muzukashii ? ye
00:41:922 - consider adding d here and changing 00:42:080 (54) - to k ? Currently it is a bit undermapped imo. added same notes as Muzu
[Nwolf's Inner Oni]
00:46:659 (31,32,33,34) - swapping these notes to ddkk could fit the rhythm well. I think the last kats are better emphasized with the four dons before
01:09:948 (86) - consider changing this note to k to follow the high-pitched background sounds better ? Meh after Shuffle Heaven I've kinda been avoiding kkdkdkk patterns ;w;
01:52:343 (10,11,12,13) - similar to Muzukashii, k dkd would accompany the pitch changes nicely. changed here
You may call me back after that~

Thanks! Will get to your map soon C:

http://puu.sh/pzKuG/8c081fd1f2.zip

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-06-21T01:26:28+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested by Nwolf.

[General@Ambient]
Tags in Insane difficulty conflicts with all the remaining difficulties. - Didn't even notice that, Fixed!
Consider using this as background image ? The current background resolution is 1365x768, which is one pixel less optimal. - Changed!

Updated the taiko diffs and thanks

Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2016-06-21T16:06:08+00:00

The taiko difficulties look fine now.

Taiko'd~

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-06-22T02:13:50+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
The taiko difficulties look fine now.

Taiko'd~

aaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy

dytedy

919 posts

Joined December 2014

dytedy 2016-06-28T04:27:54+00:00

As we can see here

SPOILER

The insane diff has OD 8 http://puu.sh/pIDv6/6817896d1c.png

and extra diff OD 8 too http://puu.sh/pIDvK/685b1d3148.png

but hyper just got OD 7 http://puu.sh/pIDwo/142290d087.png

imo, you should decrease the OD of insane to optimal conditions

not requested

Edit: tags dubstep electronic should be removed because QAT will put that in here http://puu.sh/pIDHU/d5c392a7e8.png

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-06-28T11:48:35+00:00

dubstep is not selectable genre so it has to stay

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-06-28T12:23:08+00:00

dytedy wrote:
As we can see here

SPOILER

The insane diff has OD 8 http://puu.sh/pIDv6/6817896d1c.png

and extra diff OD 8 too http://puu.sh/pIDvK/685b1d3148.png

but hyper just got OD 7 http://puu.sh/pIDwo/142290d087.png

imo, you should decrease the OD of insane to optimal conditions

not requested

Edit: tags dubstep electronic should be removed because QAT will put that in here http://puu.sh/pIDHU/d5c392a7e8.png

I believe 7.5 should be fitting, also as Nwolf pointed out, dubstep isn't a selectable genre but i'll remove it anyways, cheers

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-07-31T20:17:55+00:00

qualification process is overcomplexificated

*runs*

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-08-02T00:22:11+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
qualification process is overcomplexificated

*runs*

Soon™ i prooooooomise who knows when, honestly its starting to kill me

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2016-09-03T13:55:39+00:00

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Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-09-04T00:08:41+00:00

I think its time i become the biggest try hard and suck up to a lot of really stupid BN queue's, because i'm going overseas in 2 months.

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-09-15T09:00:53+00:00

ayy lets go fyi no sucking up was involved
rip tochi

[General]
having camellia in tags isn't really necessary since it's already in the artists name

[HB's Easy]
set combo colours?
uncheck widescreen
mm, hitsounds don't really provide enough feedback here. snares aren't hitsounded which is a problem
00:08:922 (5,1,2) - can you try a different rhythm here? the way you have it now 00:09:869 (1,2) - don't land on any significant beats so its very difficult to know when to click them. imo you could delete 00:08:922 (5) - and make 00:07:975 (4) - a reverse then put the two sliders 00:09:869 (1,2) - on downbeats which are easier to predict
00:49:027 (3) - its better if you end this on 00:49:659 - like u did for 00:43:975 (3) - because it allows the drums to be clicked
01:31:027 - missing whistle

[Normal]
also lacking in hitsounds
00:26:764 (5,1) - 01:00:553 (2,1) - 01:04:501 (5,1) - 01:07:027 (4,1,2) - spacing errors
00:17:132 - music picks up here, why not introduce hitsounds/increase hitsound volume? with 100% music and effect volume i can't even hear what im clicking
00:31:975 (4,1) - blanket
00:39:869 - hm maybe you could shorten the slider and let this be clickable, because the sound is different compared to the first 2 repeats and is less confusing
00:44:606 - this beat leads into the downbeat so is pretty important. i'd include it in your rhythm since it also prevents that weird 2/1 gap with close spacing
00:49:659 - same goes for this one
00:54:080 - why didn't you include this sound when you included the other two? 00:49:027 (4) - 00:43:975 (4) . even though its 1/2, it still follows the same musical structure so for consistency you should include this
00:59:132 - same deal
00:54:711 - 00:59:764 - and with the inclusion of those, you should add these two for consistency if you decide to add these lead-in notes
01:02:606 (1,2) - move 2 slightly upward and it'll look nicer, also fix distances when you do that
01:52:501 (3) - 1/4 snap? you used it here 00:49:027 (4)

[Hard]
od jumps from 3 to 6. you should make normal od 4 to even this out
hitsounds are good, why not use a hitsound copier to copy them across to easy and normal
00:06:080 (4,5) - you followed piano a lot in the start but 00:06:711 (5) - seems to miss any piano beat. it'd be better imo to shorten 00:06:080 (4) - to a 1/1 and make 00:06:711 (5) - start on 00:06:553 - so that the piano beats don't appear to be ignored
00:07:975 - whistle
00:26:290 (5) - nc to your nc conventions
00:31:185 (4) - nc
00:42:396 (3) - nc
maybe you can do the rest of the nc's yourself. since you nc's most big white ticks you need to consistently do that. like how 00:49:975 (1) - has an nc so 0:44:922 (3) - should as well
01:32:606 (4,5) - kick slider usage in hard is really controversial i would either make these individual circles or a repeat slider
01:35:132 (4) - having downbeats on a slider's end doesn't correctly represent the intensity that a downbeat brings. imo ctrl g'ing the rhythm of 01:35:132 (4,5) - works nicely, and remember to nc
01:37:659 (5) - same comment applies to rest of these kick sliders

[FCL's Hyper]
00:20:922 (1) - imo, less than 1 second spinners aren't good for gameplay because by the time people start building up their spin it's already over :/ why not just follow drums here
00:22:817 - no snare hitsounds? without hitsounding to drums i feel the map lacks feedback
00:39:238 (1,1,1,1) - placement is kinda sloppy, perhaps you could use polygon tool for a square
00:42:080 (2,1) - nazi stack
01:04:501 (1,2,3,4) - quite inconsistent with 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - and is also quite difficult for this difficulty because the player has to actually move in the direction the kicksliders face which causes fast linear flow. imo if you made it more like 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - it'd play better
01:47:764 (3,4) - it'd be better if the spacing didn't drop here perhaps you could lower the spacing of 01:47:448 (1,2,3) - to fit 01:47:922 (4) - in the same pattern

[Insane]
00:07:975 (3) - whistle?
00:13:659 (2,3,4) - i'd remove whatever soft whistles you have here because you're following drums
00:24:711 - i'd use an extended slider here by shortening it to 00:24:632 - and having a slider on 00:24:711 - sth like http://puu.sh/rbS9j/82264e00cf.jpg. the drum is quite important and shouldn't be on a slider end
00:37:659 (1,1) - blanket is quite off
00:39:238 (1,2,3,4) - you could use polygon tool to make this look cleaner
01:14:922 - no buzz slider here? originally you had them for these sounds 00:43:975
01:27:869 (1,2,3) - this is pretty confusing because the 1/4 gap is a lot larger than the 1/2 gap, imo it makes patterns pretty difficult to read and unintuitive. there are some other places you do this as well if you decide to fix

[Strategas' Extra]
00:19:658 (5) - you should nc this because you nc'ed every 4th. also in patterns such as 00:29:449 (1,2,3,4,1) - you have this nced
00:25:659 (1,1,1) - are these nc's really necessary

i don't really have any worthwhile comments for the higher diffs because i can barely play them. somethings need to be touched up on in lower diffs, but after that this defs can be ranked. best of luck!

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

FCL 2016-09-15T12:28:57+00:00

Pentori wrote:
[FCL's Hyper]
00:20:922 (1) - imo, less than 1 second spinners aren't good for gameplay because by the time people start building up their spin it's already over :/ why not just follow drums here hmm, i don't agree, the drain of the spinner is enough to don't lose the control. Also the spinner follows to some extended the background sound, so it's fair enough
00:22:817 - no snare hitsounds? without hitsounding to drums i feel the map lacks feedback k, the histounding is not my buissnes, so pls ambient, fix it instead of me
00:39:238 (1,1,1,1) - placement is kinda sloppy, perhaps you could use polygon tool for a square yay, fixed in my way
00:42:080 (2,1) - nazi stack lul
01:04:501 (1,2,3,4) - quite inconsistent with 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - and is also quite difficult for this difficulty because the player has to actually move in the direction the kicksliders face which causes fast linear flow. imo if you made it more like 01:09:553 (1,2,1,2) - it'd play better fair enough
01:47:764 (3,4) - it'd be better if the spacing didn't drop here perhaps you could lower the spacing of 01:47:448 (1,2,3) - to fit 01:47:922 (4) - in the same pattern y

ty!

holy, this mapset is alive

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Strategas

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Strategas 2016-09-15T13:02:25+00:00

00:19:658 (5) - you should nc this because you nc'ed every 4th. also in patterns such as 00:29:449 (1,2,3,4,1) - you have this nced would looks better with no nc, the other one has because it has following paterns that starts there
00:25:659 (1,1,1) - are these nc's really necessary not really, but it emphasizes the sound it follows better

such a ancient map, thanks for check Yohane

Ambient

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Ambient 2016-09-15T14:58:23+00:00

Pentori wrote:
ayy lets go fyi no sucking up was involved
rip tochi - He will be meme'd

[General]
having camellia in tags isn't really necessary since it's already in the artists name - Fair enough, removed that.

[Normal]
also lacking in hitsounds -
00:26:764 (5,1) - 01:00:553 (2,1) - 01:04:501 (5,1) - 01:07:027 (4,1,2) - spacing errors - There doesn't seem to be any according to AiMod
00:17:132 - music picks up here, why not introduce hitsounds/increase hitsound volume? with 100% music and effect volume i can't even hear what im clicking - Increased volume to a solid 100%
00:31:975 (4,1) - blanket - Fixed.
00:39:869 - hm maybe you could shorten the slider and let this be clickable, because the sound is different compared to the first 2 repeats and is less confusing - Fair enough, fixed.
00:44:606 - this beat leads into the downbeat so is pretty important. i'd include it in your rhythm since it also prevents that weird 2/1 gap with close spacing
00:49:659 - same goes for this one - Fixed.
00:54:080 - why didn't you include this sound when you included the other two? 00:49:027 (4) - 00:43:975 (4) . even though its 1/2, it still follows the same musical structure so for consistency you should include this - Fixed.
00:59:132 - same deal - Fixed.
00:54:711 - 00:59:764 - and with the inclusion of those, you should add these two for consistency if you decide to add these lead-in notes - Yeah why not.
01:02:606 (1,2) - move 2 slightly upward and it'll look nicer, also fix distances when you do that - Fixed.
01:52:501 (3) - 1/4 snap? you used it here 00:49:027 (4) - Fixed.

[Hard]
od jumps from 3 to 6. you should make normal od 4 to even this out - Fixed.
hitsounds are good, why not use a hitsound copier to copy them across to easy and normal - Copied them over to normal, up to HB if he wants them on easy.
00:06:080 (4,5) - you followed piano a lot in the start but 00:06:711 (5) - seems to miss any piano beat. it'd be better imo to shorten 00:06:080 (4) - to a 1/1 and make 00:06:711 (5) - start on 00:06:553 - so that the piano beats don't appear to be ignored - Fixed.
00:07:975 - whistle - Fixed.
00:26:290 (5) - nc to your nc conventions - Fixed.
00:31:185 (4) - nc - Fixed.
00:42:396 (3) - nc - Fixed.
maybe you can do the rest of the nc's yourself. since you nc's most big white ticks you need to consistently do that. like how 00:49:975 (1) - has an nc so 0:44:922 (3) - should as well - Fixed.
01:32:606 (4,5) - kick slider usage in hard is really controversial i would either make these individual circles or a repeat slider - Fixed.
01:35:132 (4) - having downbeats on a slider's end doesn't correctly represent the intensity that a downbeat brings. imo ctrl g'ing the rhythm of 01:35:132 (4,5) - works nicely, and remember to nc - Fixed.
01:37:659 (5) - same comment applies to rest of these kick sliders - Fixed.

[Insane]
00:07:975 (3) - whistle? - Fixed.
00:13:659 (2,3,4) - i'd remove whatever soft whistles you have here because you're following drums - Fixed.
00:24:711 - i'd use an extended slider here by shortening it to 00:24:632 - and having a slider on 00:24:711 - sth like http://puu.sh/rbS9j/82264e00cf.jpg. the drum is quite important and shouldn't be on a slider end - Fixed.
00:37:659 (1,1) - blanket is quite off - Fixed.
00:39:238 (1,2,3,4) - you could use polygon tool to make this look cleaner - Ah yup, Fixed.
01:14:922 - no buzz slider here? originally you had them for these sounds 00:43:975 - Fixed.
01:27:869 (1,2,3) - this is pretty confusing because the 1/4 gap is a lot larger than the 1/2 gap, imo it makes patterns pretty difficult to read and unintuitive. there are some other places you do this as well if you decide to fix - yeah i see what you mean, spaced them closer to the slider they come off.

i don't really have any worthwhile comments for the higher diffs because i can barely play them. somethings need to be touched up on in lower diffs, but after that this defs can be ranked. best of luck!

Bloody hope so, thanks for the mod!

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