Ocelot - YUKARI [Taiko] · forum

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bank78952 2016-05-05T08:01:27+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 4:48:00 PM

Artist: Ocelot
Title: YUKARI
Source: CROSSxBEATS
Tags: Drumstep Oriental - Frontier - Backfire
BPM: 174
Filesize: 2562kb
Play Time: 01:58
Difficulties Available:

Backfire's Inner Oni (6.1 stars, 788 notes)
Frontier's Futsuu (2.18 stars, 261 notes)
Kantan (1.5 stars, 205 notes)
Muzukashii (3.17 stars, 529 notes)
Oni (3.8 stars, 639 notes)

Download: Ocelot - YUKARI
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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All Done! , Move to pending now
REDL 8/05/2016 Coz change mp3 bitrate and timing
REDL #2 4/06/2016 BG Change
Dear modders please mod futsuu first

Futsuu by - Frontier -

Inner Oni by Backfire

lyrics

花曇りの空に縁を巡りて辿り伝手

人の出会いは揺らめく光
暗闇をも照らした儚き灯火
言の葉を越え届く煌めき
人と人ととのめぐりあいの不思議さよ

花曇りの空に縁を巡りて辿り伝手

花曇りの空に縁を巡りて辿り伝手
さざめく光はあはれ
霞んだ言葉を紡ぎ出す

Yuri's Inner Oni

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 22121
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.4

[Metadata]
Title:YUKARI
TitleUnicode:YUKARI
Artist:Ocelot
ArtistUnicode:Ocelot
Creator:bank78952
Version:Inner Oni
Source:CROSSxBEATS
Tags:Drumstep Oriental - Frontier -
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:452016

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:2
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:10
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"wa.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Last edited by bank78952 2016-06-18T09:48:11+00:00, edited 26 times in total.

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1,854 posts

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- Frontier - 2016-05-05T08:05:55+00:00

ใส่ "function phantom" ใน Tags ด้วย
ถ้าแมพเสร็จเมื่อไหร่บอกด้วย จะมามอด
no kds

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-05T08:33:24+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
ใส่ "function phantom" ใน Tags ด้วย
ถ้าแมพเสร็จเมื่อไหร่บอกด้วย จะมามอด
no kds

แล้ว Muzu ละ :V

- Frontier -

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- Frontier - 2016-05-05T11:29:05+00:00

Futsuu. If it's not good you can delete it D:

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Aloda

osu! Alumni

444 posts

Joined November 2011

Aloda 2016-05-08T07:36:54+00:00

Hello.

General

The bitrate for you mp3 is too high - It should be no higher than 192kbps.

Frontier's Futsuu

00:22:078 - 00:44:147 - I think you've used a few too many even length 1/2 patterns in this section. Consider adding/removing/shifting notes to make some of them into odd length patterns

00:55:182 (108) and 01:00:699 (120) d -> k You've used k for identical sounding parts elsewhere

01:36:561 (244,245) - Ctrl+g? I think this sounds better

01:35:527 (240) - 01:35:527 (240) - d -> k? Might sound better like this

01:36:561 (244,245) - Same as 01:36:561 (244,245)

Oni

00:12:165 (37) - Remove? I don't hear a sound here

00:15:785 (64) - ^

Sorry for the short mod

Nice map, good luck!

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-08T09:48:49+00:00

Aloda wrote:
Hello.

General
The bitrate for you mp3 is too high - It should be no higher than 192kbps. i'll fix it later :3

Oni
00:12:165 (37) - Remove? I don't hear a sound here i hear but it's low pitch sound

00:15:785 (64) - ^ ^

Sorry for the short mod Nice map, good luck!

Thanks

- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2016-05-08T10:40:34+00:00

Aloda wrote:
Hello.

Frontier's Futsuu
00:22:078 - 00:44:147 - I think you've used a few too many even length 1/2 patterns in this section. Consider adding/removing/shifting notes to make some of them into odd length patterns

00:55:182 (108) and 01:00:699 (120) d -> k You've used k for identical sounding parts elsewhere

01:36:561 (244,245) - Ctrl+g? I think this sounds better

01:35:527 (240) - 01:35:527 (240) - d -> k? Might sound better like this

01:36:561 (244,245) - Same as 01:36:561 (244,245)

Sorry for the short mod Nice map, good luck!

Thanks !! Fixed all !!

I wanna try everything !!

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 21906
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.4

[Metadata]
Title:YUKARI
TitleUnicode:YUKARI
Artist:Ocelot
ArtistUnicode:Ocelot
Creator:bank78952
Version:Frontier's Futsuu
Source:CROSSxBEATS
Tags:Drumstep Oriental - Frontier -
BeatmapID:970116
BeatmapSetID:452016

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:2
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:10
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"wa.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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[R]

1,050 posts

Joined November 2013

[R] 2016-05-08T17:14:45+00:00

yo

i'm not good with timing but the offset i guess wrong, for a while try to move offset 1/8 backward
do this suggest after done with my mod xD

[Futsuu]
00:04:147 (10,11,12,13) - delete this, no specific sound there
00:07:596 (18,19,20) - can change to kdk
00:08:630 - or this 00:08:975 - change to kat, they have different pitch

00:12:251 - delete this to give a bit break for 00:12:768 (7,8,9,10) -
00:13:630 - delete
00:15:010 - delete
00:15:872 - change kat

00:40:699 - change kat ? make not monotoune
00:49:147 - delete and 00:49:492 - add don, 1/3 sound are in this part
01:11:216 - move 01:11:389 - for better structure

01:13:630 - add don ?
01:14:147 - change kat and delete 01:14:320 -
01:16:734 - move 01:16:906 -
01:27:940 - change kat to emphasize next note

01:30:354 - or 01:31:389 - delete to give a break

[Muzukashii]
00:10:527 (23,24,25) - just make a simple kkk i guess
00:14:492 - delete ? to give a break
00:52:251 - add note, seeing 00:51:906 - have a note feels akward if here empty
01:03:285 - add kat ?
01:55:613 - add kat ?

maybe just that from me
Good Luck

Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2016-05-08T17:15:44+00:00

Heres the inner you requested http://puu.sh/oKH0w/5fa2b7f68b.txt

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-08T18:49:30+00:00

[R] wrote:
yo

i'm not good with timing but the offset i guess wrong, for a while try to move offset 1/8 backward
do this suggest after done with my mod xD offset are fine for me maybe i should request for timing check later XD

[Muzukashii]
00:10:527 (23,24,25) - just make a simple kkk i guess fix
00:14:492 - delete ? to give a break you mean 00:14:363 - ? ok fix
00:52:251 - add note, seeing 00:51:906 - have a note feels akward if here empty fix
01:03:285 - add kat ? fix
01:55:613 - add kat ? fix

maybe just that from me
Good Luck

Thanks :3

Betsuto

395 posts

Joined August 2011

Betsuto 2016-05-09T09:46:32+00:00

เป็นแค่ม้อดกาก ๆ :v ... จะแก้หรือไม่แก้ก็ได้นะ เราม้อดมือใหม่ (แถมละมือมาหลายเดือนแล้วด้วย)

mod

[Kantan]
00:46:949 (46,47,48) - ทำให้ตรงนี้มีเสียง Clap ด้วยน่าจะดี
01:28:328 (119) - ทำให้เป็นสีแดงใหญ่น่าจะเข้ากว่า

[Frontier's Futsuu]
00:03:156 (8,9) - Ctrl + G น่าจะเข้ากว่า
00:25:570 (12) - clap
00:30:053 (27,28,29) - 3 โน๊ตนี้ สลับสีกันน่าจะโอเคกว่า
00:35:915 (44,45) - Ctrl + G
00:40:742 (58) - clap
01:40:053 - เพิ่มโน๊ตซักตัว

[Muzukashii]
รู้สึกว่ามันรัวยากไปสำหรับ Muzu เอาโน๊ตรัวออกซักหน่อยน่าจะดี

Oni กับ Inner เราม้อดไม่เป็นนะ ; w ;

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-09T09:55:57+00:00

Betsuto wrote:
เป็นแค่ม้อดกาก ๆ :v ... จะแก้หรือไม่แก้ก็ได้นะ เราม้อดมือใหม่ (แถมละมือมาหลายเดือนแล้วด้วย)
mod
[Kantan]
00:46:949 (46,47,48) - ทำให้ตรงนี้มีเสียง Clap ด้วยน่าจะดี d..k..d เข้ากว่าอะนาย :v
01:28:328 (119) - ทำให้เป็นสีแดงใหญ่น่าจะเข้ากว่า โอเค

[Muzukashii]
รู้สึกว่ามันรัวยากไปสำหรับ Muzu เอาโน๊ตรัวออกซักหน่อยน่าจะดี ไม่หร้อก คนเล่นเดี๋ยวนี้เถื่อนจะตาย :v

Oni กับ Inner เราม้อดไม่เป็นนะ ; w ;

ใจแจ้ :V

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-09T10:10:14+00:00

*Note* I have permission from frontier to check and fix this

[R] wrote:
yo

i'm not good with timing but the offset i guess wrong, for a while try to move offset 1/8 backward
do this suggest after done with my mod xD

[Futsuu]
00:04:147 (10,11,12,13) - delete this, no specific sound there ok
00:07:596 (18,19,20) - can change to kdk kkd are fine and make futsuu easier
00:08:630 - or this 00:08:975 - change to kat, they have different pitch fix

00:12:251 - delete this to give a bit break for 00:12:768 (7,8,9,10) - fix
00:13:630 - delete fix
00:15:010 - delete fix
00:15:872 - change kat i del 2 note it make futsuu more easier for newbie

00:40:699 - change kat ? make not monotoune fix
00:49:147 - delete and 00:49:492 - add don, 1/3 sound are in this part fix
01:11:216 - move 01:11:389 - for better structure fix

01:13:630 - add don ? no
01:14:147 - change kat and delete 01:14:320 - fix
01:16:734 - move 01:16:906 - fix
01:27:940 - change kat to emphasize next note fix

01:30:354 - or 01:31:389 - delete to give a break 01:30:009 - is better

maybe just that from me
Good Luck

เบส
[Frontier's Futsuu]
00:03:156 (8,9) - Ctrl + G น่าจะเข้ากว่า dkd มันเหมาะกว่าอะนาย
00:25:570 (12) - clap k
00:30:053 (27,28,29) - 3 โน๊ตนี้ สลับสีกันน่าจะโอเคกว่า kd...k สินะ
00:35:915 (44,45) - Ctrl + G fix
00:40:742 (58) - clap แก้แล้ว จาก mod ที่แล้ว
01:40:053 - เพิ่มโน๊ตซักตัว kkd
มาแก้แทนช็อค

- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2016-05-10T13:22:37+00:00

Good mapper and good GD ;w;
I look so worthless for this map

- Frontier - wrote:
ใส่ "function phantom" ใน Tags ด้วย
ถ้าแมพเสร็จเมื่อไหร่บอกด้วย จะมามอด
no kds

^ Plzzzzzzzz ใส่เข้าไปหน่อย

ใส่แท็ค "shockolatte" (ชื่อเก่าเรา) ใส่ไปด้วยนะ

Ayyri

Ayyri 2016-05-12T12:53:04+00:00

Hello~

NM. from Bow Queue

Keep in mind, these are my suggestions, don't change something I mentioned unless it seems good to you!

If I didn't make a box for something, that doesn't mean I didn't look at it. It just means I didn't find anything wrong with it.

Kantan

00:11:087 (18) - Change to D. There's a finish sound in the background.
01:15:915 (96) - Change to D. You followed the finish sound with the K's before. So you should also do it here.
01:43:501 (146) - ^
01:48:328 (155) - ^
01:50:397 (159) - ^ K
01:51:777 (161) - ^ K
01:53:156 (164) - ^ K
01:53:846 (165) - ^ K
01:54:535 (166) - ^ K

~~There's kind of like a star gap between your Oni and Inner~~

DeletedUser_6637817

DeletedUser_6637817 2016-05-12T14:50:20+00:00

M4M, ill not mod, ill review spread so you dont have problems later on.

EDIT: RANT ALERT >W<

Spread

Im a bit worried about this spread constellation tbh. Here i go:
The Kantan uses 1/1 that is very good in the spread together with the Futsuu.
Expect for the Kiai. Which is supposed to be a very Heavy part in the song, so i suggest you build some more 1/1 in the Kiai on Kantan, and on an other note, the 1st Kantan Kiai is mapped without any breaks AT ALL. That poses quite a bit of a problem to exhaust the player with a 30 sec long chain of notes without any 1/4. My Suggestion, You should try to pump up some 1/1 in the 1st kiai and try to put some breaks there.
Now to the Futsuu. Its dense, very, very dense for a futsuu, so the muzukashii must have quite equal parts of 1/4 to back it up, no? Yes, right, but appearantly the Muzukashii has ddk, which is a very wild move to map onto a muzukashii tbh. You should NEVER confuse a difficulty spike with density, for example, 4 ddd's are NOT equal to a ddk for that matter, a ddk would be more equivalent to a choking hazard. ddk is also very less expected from players so sticking with monochrome ddd and kkk is probably your best choice, just make about as dense in 1/4 as the Futsuu is dense in 1/2. But what about the 1/3?Ok, so 01:14:880 (249,250,251,252) - this thing is REALLY offsetting, i mean REALLY offsetting, muzukashii players expect 1/2 and 1/4 mostly when they are browsing their maps, and if they come across your map, they will wonder 'WTF how do i play that, do i Alternate or do i singletap, and why are there mutliple colors?!' My point is its controversial, and will probably make the player go wild, either you can make it a dddd, or just treat it as a 1/1 gap altogether.
01:20:742 (277,278,279,280,281,282,283) - also consider making this a 1/1 tapping because:
Muzukashii should rarely contain 1/3 patterns, and by that i mean only use them if its neccessary and fits the music.
Muzukashii's even rarer, contain patterns with 5 notes.
Combine those 2 facts, and youve got a serious hot potato on your hands.
My suggestion: Nerf 1/3 a bit, put a tad more monochrome triplets, remove any ddk/kkd, as those are pretty controversial.
Now to the gap between Oni and Muzukashii.
If you decided to upgrade the muzukashii a little bit and remove the cheap 1/3, i think the oni could use some 1/4 buffing too.
Inner Oni is NOT of concern because it doesnt have to fit into spread at all.

Nep out.

Conclusion: Spreads gotta get fixed.

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-13T08:27:38+00:00

Ayyri wrote:
Hello~

NM. from Bow Queue

Keep in mind, these are my suggestions, don't change something I mentioned unless it seems good to you!

If I didn't make a box for something, that doesn't mean I didn't look at it. It just means I didn't find anything wrong with it.

Kantan
00:11:087 (18) - Change to D. There's a finish sound in the background. d are fine :3
01:15:915 (96) - Change to D. You followed the finish sound with the K's before. So you should also do it here. fix
01:43:501 (146) - ^ ^
01:48:328 (155) - ^ ^
01:50:397 (159) - ^ K ^
01:51:777 (161) - ^ K ^
01:53:156 (164) - ^ K ^
01:53:846 (165) - ^ K ^
01:54:535 (166) - ^ K ^

~~There's kind of like a star gap between your Oni and Inner~~

ty :3

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-13T08:33:35+00:00

Nepuri wrote:
M4M, ill not mod, ill review spread so you dont have problems later on.

EDIT: RANT ALERT >W<

Spread
Im a bit worried about this spread constellation tbh. Here i go:
The Kantan uses 1/1 that is very good in the spread together with the Futsuu.
Expect for the Kiai. Which is supposed to be a very Heavy part in the song, so i suggest you build some more 1/1 in the Kiai on Kantan, and on an other note, the 1st Kantan Kiai is mapped without any breaks AT ALL. That poses quite a bit of a problem to exhaust the player with a 30 sec long chain of notes without any 1/4. My Suggestion, You should try to pump up some 1/1 in the 1st kiai and try to put some breaks there.
Now to the Futsuu. Its dense, very, very dense for a futsuu, so the muzukashii must have quite equal parts of 1/4 to back it up, no? Yes, right, but appearantly the Muzukashii has ddk, which is a very wild move to map onto a muzukashii tbh. You should NEVER confuse a difficulty spike with density, for example, 4 ddd's are NOT equal to a ddk for that matter, a ddk would be more equivalent to a choking hazard. ddk is also very less expected from players so sticking with monochrome ddd and kkk is probably your best choice, just make about as dense in 1/4 as the Futsuu is dense in 1/2. But what about the 1/3?Ok, so 01:14:880 (249,250,251,252) - this thing is REALLY offsetting, i mean REALLY offsetting, muzukashii players expect 1/2 and 1/4 mostly when they are browsing their maps, and if they come across your map, they will wonder 'WTF how do i play that, do i Alternate or do i singletap, and why are there mutliple colors?!' My point is its controversial, and will probably make the player go wild, either you can make it a dddd, or just treat it as a 1/1 gap altogether.
01:20:742 (277,278,279,280,281,282,283) - also consider making this a 1/1 tapping because:
Muzukashii should rarely contain 1/3 patterns, and by that i mean only use them if its neccessary and fits the music.
Muzukashii's even rarer, contain patterns with 5 notes.
Combine those 2 facts, and youve got a serious hot potato on your hands.
My suggestion: Nerf 1/3 a bit, put a tad more monochrome triplets, remove any ddk/kkd, as those are pretty controversial.
Now to the gap between Oni and Muzukashii.
If you decided to upgrade the muzukashii a little bit and remove the cheap 1/3, i think the oni could use some 1/4 buffing too.
Inner Oni is NOT of concern because it doesnt have to fit into spread at all.

Nep out.

Conclusion: Spreads gotta get fixed.

reply about diff

Kantan = my kantan in kiai are still easy in everymaps that why i need some mods
Futsuu = blame frontier i helped him to fix and he's newbie mapper
Muzukashii = i know about 1/3 and i fix about 1/3 now
Oni = 01:14:880 - 01:15:225 - are 1/3 01:20:742 - 01:21:777 - are 1/3 too i can't force it to 1/4
Inner = idk D:

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-05-20T15:53:41+00:00

Hi, from my taiko queue. I am back in modding now

.

[General]

> Fix BG size. We use 1366x768, not 1024x768. If the figure is too bad after diminishment, please use another photo with higher resolution.

> Uncheck ALL widescreen boxes if you are not going to insert a storyboard.

>OD/ HP settings:
- Kantan: 2/7
- Futsuu: 3/6
- Muzukashii: 4/5
- Oni: 5~6 for both

> Speaking of difficulty spread, I would say that Oni should be blamed. Basically Ocelot's song has a large SR gap due to the genre (d&b), Futsuu with SR=2.47 is acceptable for me.

> The last green timing point at 01:58:630 - is kinda useless because the majority of players have already finished the spinner. You may remove it or shift it to an earlier timing.

[Frontier's Futsuu]

> Check the notice in OD/ HP settings.

> At the introduction part, you should decrease the overall note density because a better layer management is expected. You can see that the density of the introduction part is even denser than the first phase.

- 00:01:259 (3) - remove it to make the pattern simplier.
- Remove all note located at the centre in the triplets with beat 1/2. They are not necessary right now.
- 00:12:984 (7) - remove it.
- The last bunch of notes are fine due to an end of introduction.

> 00:22:639 - delete this note, this note stand out from other similar repeated phases.

> 00:24:535 (10) - / 00:24:880 (11) - ctrl+G, matching the pitches

> 00:23:673 (7) - shift it to 00:24:018 - and change to d, the pattern looks better and slightly decreases note density.

> 00:26:949 (16,17,18,19) - this pattern is strange. The first three notes can match the vocal while the last two can not cover all vocal. You can shift 00:27:121 (17) - to 00:26:777 - and change to k. As a result, you can only leave the vocal alone and match the sfx quite well. If you want to have a rich ending, then this change may not suit your style.

> 00:30:915 -/ 00:31:604 - d can be added at these timings to match emphasize the drum kick. OR, if you want to do so in the upcoming phase, you can just leave k for this phase temporarily. (See the suggestion at 00:36:432 - )

> 00:36:432 - add d, because you also added d at 00:37:121 (50) -

> 00:40:570 (62) - d can be added according to your style. (similar case in 00:23:846 (7,8,9) - )

> 00:43:328 (71) - change to d? too many k will make the effect of division of layers weakens.

> 00:50:742 - add d , while add k at 00:50:915 - . You start increasing the note density at 00:49:708 (85) - and you should not miss the vocal part I mentioned.

> 01:14:018 - add k here, the highest pitches of the sfx should be not be interrupted with a blank.

> 01:18:501 - add k, you started 01:06:949 (130,131,132,133,134,135) - with a quite dense pattern and there is no reason you should leave it a blank.

> 01:29:190 (206) - shift it to 01:29:535 - and change to k, better pattern is formed.

> 01:34:708 (224) - shift it to 01:35:053 - and change to d, meanwhile, change 01:35:225 (226) - to k, better pattern is formed again.

> 01:43:328 - d can be added here according to your style.

[Muzukashii]

> Do you think that the introduction is too heavy comparing to the other parts? If you do, please reduce the density in the introduction part.

> 00:09:018 (19) - change to k considering the pitch? d is also fine though.

> 00:12:466 (33) - change to d, the pitch of xylophone at 00:12:121 (32) - is higher than that of 00:12:466 (33) - .

> 00:15:397 (49,50,51,52,53,54) - these polychrome triplets would be blamed so harshly by the BNs. Two consecutive triplets are killing with polychrome. Man.... At least changing them to ddd kkk.

> 01:00:915 - add d to match the pattern you were following to.

> 01:07:811 (215,216,217,218,219,220) - / 01:09:363 (222,223,224,225,226,227) - / ... triplets can be added here to balance the note spread comparing with Futsuu.

> 01:14:995 (251) - change to d to reduce the difficulty of reading the notes by the player. It is just the same principle of using monochrome triplet.

> 01:32:984 (336) - shift it to 01:33:156 - to match the BGM.

> The second Kiai is too easy!!!
- 01:41:432 (367) - try this?

- There are lots more potential triplets can be made!!!

[Oni]

> 00:09:018 (20) - same thing in Muzu. Change to k?

> 00:10:397 (23) - try this?

> 00:48:501 (163,164,165,166) - off-track notes. You can see that the pattern in Muzu in the same timing is clean and clear. Try to map Oni with that basis?

> 01:22:121 (343) - try this? (beat 1/6)

> 01:55:570 (539,540) - use kkk , considering the pattern in Muzukashii

That's it. I think there are limitations in rising the SR in Oni. However, in terms of notes spread, the difficulties should be fine.
I hope my mod is helpful~

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-05-21T10:59:23+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Hi, from my taiko queue. I am back in modding now .

[General]

> Fix BG size. We use 1366x768, not 1024x768. If the figure is too bad after diminishment, please use another photo with higher resolution. >i'll find new bg (for replace this bg)<

> Uncheck ALL widescreen boxes if you are not going to insert a storyboard. >okay<

>OD/ HP settings:
- Kantan: 2/7
- Futsuu: 3/6
- Muzukashii: 4/5
- Oni: 5~6 for both >ok i'll fixed it<

> Speaking of difficulty spread, I would say that Oni should be blamed. Basically Ocelot's song has a large SR gap due to the genre (d&b), Futsuu with SR=2.47 is acceptable for me. >im still helping about futsuu<

> The last green timing point at 01:58:630 - is kinda useless because the majority of players have already finished the spinner. You may remove it or shift it to an earlier timing. >i use only make volume lower<

[Muzukashii]

> Do you think that the introduction is too heavy comparing to the other parts? If you do, please reduce the density in the introduction part.

> 00:09:018 (19) - change to k considering the pitch? d is also fine though. >fix<

> 00:12:466 (33) - change to d, the pitch of xylophone at 00:12:121 (32) - is higher than that of 00:12:466 (33) - . >fix<

> 00:15:397 (49,50,51,52,53,54) - these polychrome triplets would be blamed so harshly by the BNs. Two consecutive triplets are killing with polychrome. Man.... At least changing them to ddd kkk. >fix<

> 01:00:915 - add d to match the pattern you were following to. >umm no>

> 01:07:811 (215,216,217,218,219,220) - / 01:09:363 (222,223,224,225,226,227) - / ... triplets can be added here to balance the note spread comparing with Futsuu. >fix<

> 01:14:995 (251) - change to d to reduce the difficulty of reading the notes by the player. It is just the same principle of using monochrome triplet. >fix<

> 01:32:984 (336) - shift it to 01:33:156 - to match the BGM. >fix<

> The second Kiai is too easy!!!
- 01:41:432 (367) - try this?
- There are lots more potential triplets can be made!!! i fixed some triplets :3

[Oni]

> 00:09:018 (20) - same thing in Muzu. Change to k? >fix<

> 00:10:397 (23) - try this? >fix<

> 00:48:501 (163,164,165,166) - off-track notes. You can see that the pattern in Muzu in the same timing is clean and clear. Try to map Oni with that basis? >fix<

> 01:22:121 (343) - try this? (beat 1/6) >fix<

> 01:55:570 (539,540) - use kkk , considering the pattern in Muzukashii >fix<

That's it. I think there are limitations in rising the SR in Oni. However, in terms of notes spread, the difficulties should be fine.
I hope my mod is helpful~

yeah im still fixing about spread
thanks

- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2016-05-21T11:09:29+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Hi, from my taiko queue. I am back in modding now .

[General]

> Uncheck ALL widescreen boxes if you are not going to insert a storyboard. ✔

>OD/ HP settings:
- Futsuu: 3/6 ✔

> Speaking of difficulty spread, I would say that Oni should be blamed. Basically Ocelot's song has a large SR gap due to the genre (d&b), Futsuu with SR=2.47 is acceptable for me. ✔

> The last green timing point at 01:58:630 - is kinda useless because the majority of players have already finished the spinner. You may remove it or shift it to an earlier timing. Give it to bank

[Frontier's Futsuu]

> Check the notice in OD/ HP settings. ✔

> At the introduction part, you should decrease the overall note density because a better layer management is expected. You can see that the density of the introduction part is even denser than the first phase.

- 00:01:259 (3) - remove it to make the pattern simplier. ✔
- Remove all note located at the centre in the triplets with beat 1/2. They are not necessary right now. ✔
- 00:12:984 (7) - remove it. ✔
- The last bunch of notes are fine due to an end of introduction.

> 00:22:639 - delete this note, this note stand out from other similar repeated phases.✔

> 00:24:535 (10) - / 00:24:880 (11) - ctrl+G, matching the pitches ✔

> 00:23:673 (7) - shift it to 00:24:018 - and change to d, the pattern looks better and slightly decreases note density. ✔

> 00:26:949 (16,17,18,19) - this pattern is strange. The first three notes can match the vocal while the last two can not cover all vocal. You can shift 00:27:121 (17) - to 00:26:777 - and change to k. As a result, you can only leave the vocal alone and match the sfx quite well. If you want to have a rich ending, then this change may not suit your style. ✔

> 00:30:915 -/ 00:31:604 - d can be added at these timings to match emphasize the drum kick. OR, if you want to do so in the upcoming phase, you can just leave k for this phase temporarily. (See the suggestion at 00:36:432 - ) ✔

> 00:36:432 - add d, because you also added d at 00:37:121 (50) - ✔

> 00:40:570 (62) - d can be added according to your style. (similar case in 00:23:846 (7,8,9) - ) Well i think dkd is better lmao

> 00:43:328 (71) - change to d? too many k will make the effect of division of layers weakens. ✔

> 00:50:742 - add d , while add k at 00:50:915 - . You start increasing the note density at 00:49:708 (85) - and you should not miss the vocal part I mentioned. I make ddk

> 01:14:018 - add k here, the highest pitches of the sfx should be not be interrupted with a blank. ✔

> 01:18:501 - add k, you started 01:06:949 (130,131,132,133,134,135) - with a quite dense pattern and there is no reason you should leave it a blank. ✔

> 01:29:190 (206) - shift it to 01:29:535 - and change to k, better pattern is formed. ✔

> 01:34:708 (224) - shift it to 01:35:053 - and change to d, meanwhile, change 01:35:225 (226) - to k, better pattern is formed again. ✔

> 01:43:328 - d can be added here according to your style. ✔

I hope my mod is helpful~ Thx

I'm bad at mapping

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