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Masayoshi Minoshima feat. Sakaue Nachi - ILIAS

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-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
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-kevincela-

TitaN7 wrote:

Another

this is perfect :) Thanks!

00:47:921 (1) - Try Ctrl + G H J, and do something like a blanket, like this! http://puu.sh/mPTBL/0c08e0668c.jpg Not a bad idea though I prefer using the slider i've used now. Actually, I've just made it a bit sharper to underline the wobble effect :P

Other diffs are good enough for me.
Thanks!
Vovan
547 posts
Joined March 2014
Vovan
Hi, from my modding queue
(I am very late, I hate GCSE xD )

[Kiiwa's Standart]

00:33:555 (2,3,4,1,1) - Delete 2 of these circles & make a slider.

00:35:245 (1) - Delete NC

00:58:062 (1) - Make a slider of 1/2 beats, the sound will be better.

01:01:442 (1) -Same

01:21:301 (1) - Point out of the grid

01:23:414 (3) - Same

01:34:400 (1,1,1) - Delete NCS

[Advanced]

00:03:343 - Add circle

00:54:893 - Same

00:58:062 (1) - 1/2 slider, not circle

01:01:442 (1) - Same

I've like 15 mods to do x) So I made short mods ._.
That's all for me !
Good luck for your awesome map !
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
applied absolutely nothing due to it interfering with my intentions on everything lol
@Nerova - Making the 1/4 sliders yet again would make an uncomfortable spike.
Natteke desu
2,487 posts
Joined August 2012
Natteke desu
^same, except that i fixed 1/6 mentoined by nerovna and reajusted ncs
HO thingie
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Damnae
Elite Storyboarder
640 posts
Joined July 2011
Damnae
stuff and things
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plsleaf
30 posts
Joined April 2014
plsleaf
[Elvis' Extra]
00:13:907 (1) - Shouldn't this be a note on red tick and a 1/12 slider starting on blue tick that repeats once?
00:54:470 (1) - ^
01:21:512 (2,3) - Shouldn't this be 1/6?

I might be wrong though
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Shiirn
Suggestions
Major suggestions
Unrankable issues

Kiiwa's Standard
  1. 00:01:020 (1) - Sliders like these, especially in low diffs, should bend on a beat, especially a tick. It just feels and plays better, and sacrifices next to nothing except a bit of your time. It's another way to emphasize a beat in the song. Since you do it 00:08:625 (1) - here, im sure you know how it works.
  2. 00:13:696 (2,1) - Minor, but if you want to follow distance snap these two should be 0.7x snapped, not 0.6x, putting a bit of space also allows the blanket to be less cramped.
  3. 00:20:879 (1) - This slider has a timing section that does nothing. As well, it is awkwardly spaced as it seems to want to be a triangle but is very scrunched instead. Likely this was a slowdown slider that you forgot to actually fix up. Space it out and get rid of the extra timing section. Might want to curve it the other way since it will otherwise overlap or come close to the next note.
  4. 00:23:836 (2,1) - Blanket comment. Blanket here could be improved.
  5. 00:35:245 (1,1) - I don't see the point of these new combos. They don't emphasize any special instruments or anything.
  6. 00:52:569 (1) - Same as my first comment. Very close to bending exactly on-tick, feels weird if it doesn't.
  7. 01:12:005 (3) - Blanket could be improved. Remember to copy it over to the previous sliders if you do.
  8. 01:27:217 (1) - Any reason this is a linear slider at all? I think a curve fits just fine.

Advanced
  1. Could maybe do with sliiightly bigger circles. 3.6 or so.
  2. 00:03:555 (2,1) - Blanket could be improved.
  3. 00:14:541 (1,2) - Are these not parallel on purpose?
  4. 00:39:893 (1) - Make sure that the two bends are parallel (they aren't, sometimes stacking and ctrl+ging can screw this up) and that the bends are on-tick. You're very good about this otherwise, so I'm sure this was an oversight. You can rotate the other straight sliders by their 4 degrees to make sure everything stays even.
  5. 00:45:808 (2,3) - Blanket improve
  6. 00:47:498 (4) - This isn't properly stacked under the slider. I'm not sure this is intentional or otherwise, but it's hard to see and feels weird.
  7. 00:50:879 (5,6,1) - 6 and 1 are not lined up with 5. Rotate it by 4 degrees to make sure it's aligned right. (You sure do like 4 degrees.)
  8. 00:58:062 (1) - For most of the map your 1/2 are just barely not touching, but this is. Might want to space it out just a bit for aesthetics.
  9. 01:31:020 (2) - The first and last straights are not parallel. Rotate by -53 to make sure.
  10. 01:35:667 (1,2) - This isn't angled directly towards the center of the pentagon you made but this is so minor it doesn't matter.

Kiiwa's Hyper
  1. I think you can raise the AR and OD by .5, but that's just me. Hypers imply "Harder hards" for me, but that may be incorrect.
  2. Just for future reference, manual stacking should be done with 4 pixel increments. In a lot of places in the map you use 5 or 6 or others. It is always 4 pixels one direction and 4 pixels the other. (Technically it is 3.5, but this only applies when you're trying to manually stack like 4-5 notes). I won't point out every one unless you want me to.
  3. 00:17:921 (1,2,3) - Because of the manual stacking issues, you end up with patterns like this coming out looking really weird.
  4. 00:20:879 (2) - I recommend a new combo here to help with the slider velocity change here as you cannot see the tick.
  5. 00:40:527 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This plays fairly well but is really, really hard to sight read. You know why. Maybe do something different?
  6. 00:55:104 (1,4) - Normally you'd manually stack these, but here you don't. Just an observation.
  7. 01:18:660 (2,3,4,5,1) - Not in a straight line, if you wanted them to be.
  8. 01:22:041 (6,1) - This comes out looking really ugly. Try to have it spaced out evenly.
  9. 01:28:062 (5) - New combo, remove combo on next note.

Damnae's Another
  1. 00:47:921 (1,1) - This is an extremely large hop compared to most of the map.
  2. 01:19:505 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - I am concerned about the readability of this because every other time you had stacked notes on the end of a slider, they were 1/6, but this is a bunch of 1/4. It's really hard to feel the difference without going into the editor, especially as smashing 1/6 because you misread it will just result in bad accuracy instead of misses due to the timing of the stream.
  3. 01:22:569 (2,3,4) - This has a similar issue to the previous one, but because the player can see just two approach circles, this is less of an issue. You should still try to keep consistent though.
  4. 01:28:379 (3,4) - You should try to manually stack this with these 01:27:428 (2,4) - as it becomes a bit of a mass of approach circles. Just drop 3,4 by 4 pixels by 4 pixels, you know the drill.
  5. 01:43:273 (6,1) - This is an extremely large difficulty spike right after the kiai is over. Doesn't feel right.

Another
  1. 00:16:865 (4,5) - This is weird to me because for one, it's not stacked with the triangle's notes and it totally can be, and because it isn't a small curve into the slider which not only totally fits but plays awesome. It feels like a pair of notes like this just doesn't play right when the notes are not actually a single pair.
  2. 00:28:062 (1,1) - These aren't actually parallel. Ctrl+g and stuff can mess with it. Fix it~
  3. 00:30:386 (4,5,1) - See 16:865. I don't understand why you're doing a triple in the music but mapping the first two notes as a pair. It doesn't feel like a legitimate "style" thing.
  4. 00:41:160 (1,2,1) - This actually isn't evenly spaced, the slider is a bit too far to the right.
  5. 00:46:336 (4) - There is no note in the music here.
  6. 00:56:583 (1,2,3,4) - Feels like it's trying to blanket but at the same time be really triangular. Hard to figure.

Priti's Another
  1. I feel like the kiai spam is seriously overkill and doesn't fit very well. Other than that, not much to say about this diff except for missed blankets and stuff. I don't really like the diff, though, it's inconsistently spaced and doesn't play well to me.

Elvis' Extra
  1. The spam new combos on the streams feels really weird aesthetically and mechanically. They're not emphasizing anything special in the beat or music, and gameplay wise they do nothing other than make it colorful. It ruins the complementary color palette this combo set has.
  2. 00:06:724 (2) - This should be 1/4. No reason for a buzz slider here.
  3. 00:10:949 (4,5,1) - Just like in kevin's another, I don't like these all that much, but at least here it is so clearly spaced that the emphasis is put on the strong bass hit, rather than having emphasis on the paired notes. Take that as you will.
  4. 00:13:907 (1) - The music itself plays a 1/12 trill starting from the blue tick. As such, this red-tick starting brief buzz makes no sense.
  5. 00:14:963 (3,4) - Ridiculously huge jump, considering you don't emphasize this musical pattern like this at all consistently. But would be better if (3) was at least flipped to that it was pointing at the next note.
  6. 00:20:879 (1,1,1,1,1) - Can you have the 4 notes actually point at the slider? This looks and feels sloppy. And the new combo spam is horrible. It doesn't emphasize anything in the music at all and aesthetically ruins the complementary colors the combos use.
  7. 00:26:372 (10) - Should be a new combo to follow the stanza patterning you were using before. Due to the combo color fiddling, you'd need to fix that, but oh well.
  8. 00:26:583 (11,12,13,1,1,1,1,1) - This plays extremely badly due to the lack of polarity and lack of readability due to the weird spacing and new combo sets. Please just follow the red/white tick beat if you want it to play better, or just throw some real dense sliders and notes to make it more readable.
  9. 00:34:400 (1,1,1,1,1) - Combo colors comment.
  10. 00:36:407 (1,2) - NC should be on (2).
  11. 00:40:527 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I am sure you are creative enough to have a super spaced stream without running out of space like you did at the end of this one.
  12. 00:54:470 (1,2) - Same issue as at 00:13:907 -. The previous poster also commented on this.
  13. 00:59:858 (2) - There is no beat here, and the patterning doesn't really force you to overmap here. I suggest changing.
  14. 01:01:724 (2) - This actually plays better as two circles.
  15. 01:21:512 (2,3,1) - Previous poster is right. This should be 1/6.
  16. 01:45:386 (5,6,7) - Really uncomfortable difficulty spike, but it's okay I guess.
  17. 01:48:766 (1,1,1,1) - This is probably the only new combo spam roll I would leave alone.
CernTheLion
165 posts
Joined February 2015
CernTheLion
Scusa il ritardo, premetto che siccome è una delle mie prime volte che moddo puoi anche trascurare e ignorare quanto scritto qua sotto. Detto questo cominciamo :)

Kiwaa's Standard
00:12:005 (1,2,1,2,1) - spostare il tutto leggermente più in basso, in quanto la fine dello slider esce dallo schermo
00:20:879 (1) - spostalo a x:336 y:160
00:23:836 (2) - spostalo a x:376 y:64 (solo se hai spostato il 00:20:879 (1) )
00:35:245 (1) - rimuovi la nuova combo
01:19:611 (2,1,1) - sposta il tutto un po' in basso

Advanced
mmm....potresti anche aumentare la grandezza dei cerchi a 3.5 anzichè 3.8 :)

00:07:358 (1) - un pochino più spostato verso lo slider successivo
00:47:921 (1) - ^
01:48:555 (1) - muovilo a x:112 y:360

Kiwaa's Hyper
00:07:358 (1) - slider velocissimo (da x0,75 a 1,5). Diminuisci la velocità fino a x1 o al massimo x1.15 in quanto la mappa ha
solamente 3 stelle
00:14:541 (1) - muovilo a x:48 y:48
00:18:977 (2) - sistemalo a x:187 y:51
00:24:893 (2) - sistemalo a x:47 y:102
00:25:738 (2) - sistemalo a x:8 y:226
00:47:921 (1) - uguale a 00:07:358 (1)
00:58:062 (1) - ^
01:01:442 (1) - ^
01:46:020 (2) - avvicinalo allo slider, succerisco x:136 y:152

Damnae's Another
00:13:907 (1,2,3) - non si capisce nulla :?
00:38:414 (6) - nuova combo
00:54:470 (1,2,3) - uguale all'inizio :?
01:42:005 (1) - cambia il colore in grigio

Another
00:16:865 (4,5) - muovi il tutto a x:304 y:144

Priti's Another
forse è meglio fare come in tutte le difficoltà e usare 5 colori, così da far distinguere ai giocatori gli slider veloci da

quelli normali
00:07:358 (1) - cambia colore in grigio (solo se hai aggiunto il grigio)
00:47:921 (1) - ^
00:58:062 (1) - ^
01:01:442 (1) - ^
01:42:005 (1) - ^
00:40:738 (1) - nuova combo

Elvis' Extra
nulla che io abbia notato ^^

Mappa stupenda, spero proceda bene e che venga rankata, spero anche di esserti stato d'aiuto in qualche modo. Buona fortuna per il ranking :D
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
@Shiirn - You're kinda right, it's a bit of an old diff and I couldn't be bothered with truly remapping it.
@-Bumblebee- - Applied the new combo, didn't change the colors because i hate doing that.

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-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
-kevincela-

-Bumblebee- wrote:

Advanced
mmm....potresti anche aumentare la grandezza dei cerchi a 3.5 anzichè 3.8 :) Fixato con la mod precedente

00:07:358 (1) - un pochino più spostato verso lo slider successivo L'ho fatto per enfatizzare la song in questo punto, visto che diventa più intensa
00:47:921 (1) - ^ ^
01:48:555 (1) - muovilo a x:112 y:360 Fixato un po' a modo mio

Another
00:16:865 (4,5) - muovi il tutto a x:304 y:144 Fixato in parte con la mod precedente
Also everything from shiirn's mod should be fixed except from 01:35:667 (1,2) - in the advanced diff (since it's not really noticeable in play mode) and 00:56:583 (1,2,3,4) -, even though i may change a bit the pattern there later to smooth it a bit out.

Thanks!

Oh, and here's a translation of -Bumblebee-'s mod for those who can't understand it:

-Bumblebee- wrote:

Kiwaa's Standard
00:12:005 (1,2,1,2,1) - since the slider's end is going out of the screen i'd suggest moving all of this downwards
00:20:879 (1) - move to x:336 y:160
00:23:836 (2) - move to x:376 y:64 (only if you have done the point above)
00:35:245 (1) - remove the new combo
01:19:611 (2,1,1) - move everything a bit downwards

Kiwaa's Hyper
00:07:358 (1) - this slider is really fast (from x0,75 to 1,5x). You should lower the sv to x1 or at best x1.15 since the difficulty is only 3 stars
00:14:541 (1) - move to x:48 y:48
00:18:977 (2) - move to x:187 y:51
00:24:893 (2) - move to x:47 y:102
00:25:738 (2) - move to x:8 y:226
00:47:921 (1) - same to 00:07:358 (1)
00:58:062 (1) - ^
01:01:442 (1) - ^
01:46:020 (2) - move it near the slider, for this i'd suggest x:136 y:152

Damnae's Another
00:13:907 (1,2,3) - this pattern is hardly readable :?
00:38:414 (6) - new combo
00:54:470 (1,2,3) - same as the first point :?
01:42:005 (1) - change the color to gray
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
3,596 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
hi


elvis' extra

  1. 00:06:724 (2) - I'd prefer if you made the white tick here clickable since synth (or whatever) changes + trong durm it feels a bit strange having it on the same slider as the stuff before
  2. 00:08:625 - you have this sound clickable for the whole intro but not here?
  3. 00:13:907 (1) - lol
  4. 00:20:879 (1,1,1,1) - what's the reasoning for the nc spam? at least you do it consistently for this pattern, but I still don't get the reason for it

priti's another

  1. 00:13:907 (4,5) - similar thing has been an issue before: p/4620723 while it is a bit different here, moving the slidertail, or doing something with the spacing might be a good idea
    00:54:470 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - is way because of the spacing
    01:42:005 (1) - why the 1/6 snapping? doesnt seem to follow the wub or anything and just feels weird snapping it like any of the other diffs seems much better fitting

another another

  1. 00:07:358 (1,1) - could lower the spacing a bit since it looks way too much like the one you used for 1/2 before, making it so easy to get a kinda stupid 100 on the first slider, later on it shouldnt be a problem as people will expect those wub-sliders to be 3/4 after this
  2. 01:09:681 (5,6,1) - overlapping them both in the same way would look really nice imo
  3. 01:28:906 (1,2,3,4) - transition from the spaced stream into this should be nicer if you didn't make it a straight line, maybe you could try sth like http://i.imgur.com/ZU1H3Aj.jpg

damnae's "why does this map have so many another diffs"

  1. 00:02:287 (3) - Just a personal thought: at least for me it seems like those 3/4 slider patterns would look nicer if you slightly increased the ds for them, like 2.1 maybe
  2. 00:09:048 (3,1) - overlapping more of the slidertail than head doesnt look that nice to me
  3. 00:13:907 (1,2,3) - readability is a bit meh here, sure people should expect to play this like a triple, which will work, but with halving the sv for the second one it becomes a game of "guess what all those sliders are snapped to"
    same for 00:54:576 (2,3) -
  4. 00:23:203 (2) - I understand that it is spaced like this for the symmetric pattern, but it feel a bit too much compared to others patterns around here and the music
  5. 00:28:696 (3) - same here and the fact that 00:28:484 (2) - is much stronger, yet has way less spacing, doesn't make it any better
  6. 00:46:653 (1,2,3) - could you make the ds the same here? difference is not much but it looked a bit unpolished during gameplay
  7. 01:14:822 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - autostacking kinda ruins the pattern here http://i.imgur.com/IiNgwho.jpg
    => maybe you could try sth like http://i.imgur.com/pv93l60.jpg ?
    for 01:21:724 (3,4) - it's better because of the direction, but moving 4 to be 1.6 to 3 after factoring in stacking would look nice
  8. 01:23:836 (1) - this just feels way too strong to use such a spacing, even if it makes some kind of pattern

kiiwa's hyper

  1. 00:17:921 (1,2,3) - making this more like similar patterns, as for example 00:24:681 (1,2,3) - would be so much more readable, same for 00:38:203 (1,2,3) - it just doesn't feel like a pattern for a hyper difficulty
  2. 00:28:273 (1) - why the nc here? feels unnecessary, same for 01:15:386 (1,1,1) - 01:22:358 (1,1) - well at least it is consistent for those vocals, lol
  3. 00:40:527 (1,2,1,2) - all other 1/4 in this part are slightly spaced but not those?
  4. 01:20:879 (2) - 1/1s that look just like the 1/2 right before it while there are still 1/2 in the music, eh
    01:35:245 (3,1,2) - similar here

advanced

  1. 00:28:484 (1,2) - ctrl-g on this rhythm would follow the vocals nicely (which seem to be your focus here) and feel more natural to play
  2. 00:36:512 - so much stronger than the sliderhead ;_;
  3. 01:10:315 (1,2,3) - spacing incosistency is really noticeable and looks weird here
  4. whole kiai would looks so much nicer with some more spacing, like 1.1x or something, making it a bit harder would also be nicer for the whole spread


kiwa's standard

  1. 00:06:512 (1) - only kickslider in the whole diff and doesn't fele needed anyways, especially with this low sv and all it is kinda confusing for new players and also doesn't look great
  2. 00:12:005 (1,2,1) - come on, this a difficulty meant for people that just installed the game and with this ar and all I can assure you that lots of them will try to hit 00:13:273 (1) - before 00:12:850 (2) - as it just pops up while they are moving, having a strong sound on 00:12:428 - doesnt make it better
    00:34:822 (1,1) - why nc spam?, same for similar ones obviously
    I can kinda understand the nc to somehow emphasize the wubs like 01:01:442 (1) - (even if I dont like those either)
  3. 01:04:189 (2,1,2) - sudden switch to 3/2 feel kinda awkward
  4. 01:35:667 - skipping this feel a bit weird
  5. 01:33:132 (1,1) - // 01:14:541 (1,1) - using a consistent spacing for those 1/2 would be a good idea
  6. kiai feels a bit boring with being like 80% 1/1 slider spam, but I guess it works for an easy so whatever


nice set overall, good luck ranking it
Natteke desu
2,487 posts
Joined August 2012
Natteke desu
it's pretty hard to answer what made me spam ncs because diff was made more than year ago tbh
i'll take a look tomorrow
upd: ok i got it, the reason behind nc spams was i wanted to emphasise "bridges" in music (not really sure if i called it right, sorry for my english) for example 00:20:879 (1,1,1,1) - this one
However, i want to look deeper into the diff tomorrow so this could be chaged
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
fixed da slider thing, 1/3 will stay because it actually does fit.
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Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Yoo

[Kiiwa]
00:12:850 (2,1,2,1) - This is soo cluttered. Please move them apart, to prevent the overlaps from hindering the player, also , there is a difference issue from 00:13:696 (2,1) -. When the SV changes a bit, you shouldn't change DS a lot to fix it, having this at 0.7-0.75 would be fine
00:20:456 (3,1) - Distance
00:35:245 (1,1) - Why those NC's?
01:05:245 (1) - Weird gaps around this
01:21:301 (1) - Remove NC please
01:33:132 (1,1,1,1,1) - Why so many NCs?
Uhmm, diff itself is fime, but it has quite some distance errors, and weird NCing

[Advanced]
01:08:625 (1,2,3) - Increase spacing to 1,1 please, the overlaps are quite visible
Nice diff

[Kiiwa's Hyper]
00:14:435 (6,1) - The looks and feels so weird, please space it a bit more properly
00:20:879 (2) - NC, to distinguish the SV change better
I don't even know

[All other diffs]
What the... This map is just a complete mindfuck O.o
I hoped I could help you push it forward, but this is just wow
I don't even know what to do here
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
-kevincela-

Bara- wrote:

[Advanced]
01:08:625 (1,2,3) - Increase spacing to 1,1 please, the overlaps are quite visible Done, i've also done a manual stack in order to avoid another overlap
Nice diff Thanks!

[All other diffs]
What the... This map is just a complete mindfuck O.o
I hoped I could help you push it forward, but this is just wow
I don't even know what to do here I wonder if that's to be intended as a positive or negative thing, this map is a bit different than the normal so that can be understandable to a certain extent :p
Thanks for the mod!
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
It seems to be a positive thing, but I can't even come close to mod things like this
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
-kevincela-
haha I see, thanks for having tried in any case :P
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
-kevincela-

Lasse wrote:

another another

  1. 00:07:358 (1,1) - could lower the spacing a bit since it looks way too much like the one you used for 1/2 before, making it so easy to get a kinda stupid 100 on the first slider, later on it shouldnt be a problem as people will expect those wub-sliders to be 3/4 after this Sure
  2. 01:09:681 (5,6,1) - overlapping them both in the same way would look really nice imo Ye
  3. 01:28:906 (1,2,3,4) - transition from the spaced stream into this should be nicer if you didn't make it a straight line, maybe you could try sth like http://i.imgur.com/ZU1H3Aj.jpg
Not sure about this, I'd rather keep this as a single line for now

advanced

  1. 00:28:484 (1,2) - ctrl-g on this rhythm would follow the vocals nicely (which seem to be your focus here) and feel more natural to play Good point, will fix later
  2. 00:36:512 - so much stronger than the sliderhead ;_; Yeah, though I don't really feel like chaining another 1/2 slider in there orz
  3. 01:10:315 (1,2,3) - spacing incosistency is really noticeable and looks weird here it was because of the stack, should have been fixed
  4. whole kiai would looks so much nicer with some more spacing, like 1.1x or something, making it a bit harder would also be nicer for the whole spread I've already spiced up a bit the difficulty in the kiai, i will do more later i think
thanks and sorry for not noticing your mod before, being the last post of the page doesen't help much lol
ReFaller
1,233 posts
Joined August 2014
ReFaller
Unexpected mod, because yes. XD

[Kiiwa's Standard]
AiMod shows first two things about objects extremly too far from screen/grid
[Advanced]
00:16:865 (2) - distance between 00:16:231 (1,3) is a little unequal
01:15:174 (5,1,2) - your main DS in kiai is 1,1, but here looks like sudden 1,0, pay your a little bit of attantion for equal them
01:17:498 (2,3) - yyyeess, as above
Further spacing issues i would skip, because yes.
[Kiiwa's Hyper]
00:07:146 (1) - this NC looks not much necessary in comparison with other diffs
[Damnae's Another]
Your objects are fit perfect, you did great job.
[Another]
From 01:08:625 (1) to 01:28:801 (9) - Explain me, for what that part follows, because with every my play i can't catch any beat, vocal or instrument for reasonable clicking your objects.
[Priti's Another]
01:14:752 (6,7,8) - If you follow for piano or whatever it is, the one and only person, who did it perfect, is Damnae, if you agree that you follow for that instrument, check his diff for timeline fix.
[Elvis' Extra]
00:34:400 (1,1,1,1,1) - YUMMY, SCITTLES
00:40:527 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - hmmm...spacing of this stream seems a bit random, i expected it will be converted slider, where distance is equal.
01:48:766 (1,1,1,1) - SCITTLES BACK, I'M HAPPY :D
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
-kevincela-
Everything should be fixed on my end, thanks!
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
Kiiwa's Standard
tick rate 1
00:39:893 (1,1) - this needs 4 beats after a slider for recovery
i think this diff can't pass the qualification even though it's fun to play, issues like 00:13:696 (2,1) - spacing change, 01:24:259 (1,2) - 00:29:752 (1,1) - stack, and 00:07:358 (1) - sv change

Advanced
tick rate 1
01:10:949 (2,1) - fix stack
00:58:062 (1) - 01:01:442 (1) - i don't think they need new combo

Kiiwa's Hyper
01:36:196 (1) - why clap
01:48:555 (2,3,4) - here is 1/6
spread is questionable, the gap with Advanced is kinda large, also some 3/4 slider usages don't fit so well

priti
00:13:907 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - space them like 00:54:470 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - to make it easier to read owo

Elvis' Extra
00:07:780 (1,2) - almost perfect blanket
00:21:301 (1,2) - spacing looks too small, here needs a larger spacing since 00:21:301 (1) - this is a speed-up slider

good luck!!
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
-kevincela-
Fixed the tick rate on the advanced diff, didn't fix the stack (it's a manual one, done on purpose since an actual stack would have visually ruined the pattern) and the new combos (i still think these sounds should be emphasized)
As for the gap between the Advanced and the Hyper i'm not really sure, I've made advanced as a slightly more difficult normal just for this, since standard is like a slightly more difficult easy and the hyper is a bit harder than a normal hard diff (which is kinda compensated by the low bpm).
Thanks for the mod!
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
@ReFaller: I want to keep the rhythm simple and there is a REALLY strong hi hat on the blue tick so there's no reason to only use 1/6
@Karen: fixed
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ReFaller
1,233 posts
Joined August 2014
ReFaller
Good rework for kiai part Kevin (probably this your name). (kev'in cell'a XD)

Now I can easily pass it with my naturally gameplay problems
and your naturally mysterious mapping style
Arusamour
424 posts
Joined April 2014
Arusamour
gaaah i really really really love this map. this is the best =akdas omg i love this map so much here's a start or two. i rarely even give out stars, M<33333333


edit: wait, i already shot stars. have more
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
2,790 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
-kevincela-
ilu <3
-Visceral-
644 posts
Joined August 2012
-Visceral-


[General]
  1. Priti's Another has inconsistent combo colors. Add the 5th combo color to keep it consistent since I can't see any reason why it should be inconsistent.
[Elvis' Extra]
  1. 00:06:724 (2) - There is nothing in the song that suggests a 1/8 rhythm here. This slider is technically overmapped.
  2. 00:07:358 (1) - The shape of this slider can be improved. It currently kinda just looks really messy and unpolished.
  3. 00:07:780 (1,2) - I don't normally point out blankets but this one is, like, really bad... either blanket it or don't do anything like a blanket at all. Otherwise it just comes off as sloppy and unappealing to the eye.
  4. 00:13:907 (1) - This slider is possibly unrankable, and either way, it feels kinda bleh. It overlaps itself for one, and it'd be better off just being like this: http://i.imgur.com/SnYeN5k.png
  5. 00:24:259 (6,1) - The spacing here should be increased to emphasize the downbeat.
  6. 00:26:372 (10) - New Combo here to stay consistent.
  7. 00:27:111 (1,1,1,1,1) - I really can't hear anything in the song that suggests such a big spike in spacing, and even if there is, it's too quiet to be represented by something this hard.
  8. 00:49:611 (3,4,1) - Kind of minor but if you're going to have a linear pattern like this, it's good to keep it consistent spacing, and there's a bit of an inconsistency currently.
  9. 00:54:470 (1) - This one is unrankable for sure. Just change it to a regular 1/8 buzz slider. No need to try and push the ranking criteria; it looks better as a regular slider anyways.
  10. 00:58:062 (1,1) - I don't understand why you don't just stack these. It looks messy and it's weird to read because the head of the second slider is overlapped by the first slider.
  11. 01:01:231 (9,1) - Again, either blanket perfect or don't blanket. It looks sloppy otherwise.
  12. 01:21:724 (1,2,3,4,1,1,1) - In this pattern, there needs to be a better visual difference between the 1/4 and 1/2 rhythms. There's a difference, but it's very minor and extremely easy to misread.
[Priti's Another]
  1. 00:07:780 (1,2,3) - To stay consistent with similar rhythms in the song, I recommend having a bigger visual discrepancy between 1/2 and 1/4 rhythms here since you don't do this elsewhere.
  2. 01:32:287 (1,2,3) - Perhaps increase spacing here to emphasize the change in slider velocity.
  3. 01:43:696 (4,5,1) - Make the spacing here more even. It's noticeable during play.
[Another]
  1. 01:21:829 (3,4,5) - Even out the spacing on this stream. It's uneven spacing and it's noticeable while playing.
[Damnae's Another]
  1. 00:13:907 (1,2,3) - This is unreadable pretty much unless you know it's there. The way these stack and cover each other makes it nearly impossible to read the different rhythms.
  2. 00:47:921 (1,1) - 7.73x feels way too high for a 4 star difficulty. I'd 100% reduce this to stay in line with the overall difficulty of the map.
  3. 00:53:414 - This is a powerful tick that deserves to be represented with a clickable object instead of a repeat slider.
  4. 00:54:470 (1,2,3) - Same as the previously mentioned pattern.
  5. 01:01:442 (1,2,3,1) - The fact that these are stacked is really challenging for players of this skill level. Consider making them not 100% stacked to make the 1/6 rhythm more readable for players of this skill level.
  6. 01:25:315 (7,1,2,1,2) - This can be more aesthetically pleasing like so: http://i.imgur.com/ikTl3iH.png
[Kiiwa's Hyper]
  1. 00:02:710 - This is a powerful tick that deserves to be represented with a clickable object instead of a repeat slider.
  2. 00:04:400 - Same as the above.
  3. 00:07:780 - Similar to the above, since the slider ends on a really powerful downbeat. This happens many more times, so keep this suggestion in mind and apply it to the rest of the map.
  4. 00:13:907 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Really unreadable for players of this skill level. Consider keeping the spacing more consistent.
  5. 00:54:998 (7,1) - I don't see a reason for such low spacing here. Just keep it consistent. This happens a couple times, so again, apply this suggestion to other areas.
  6. 01:03:343 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - This pattern is too unreadable for players of this skill level. Consider making it more readable.
  7. 01:27:217 (1,4) - I don't normally point out blankets, but this one is very off.
[Advanced]
  1. 00:13:696 (3,1) - Not sure why this is an inconsistency in spacing. Same goes for 00:01:020 (1,2) and some other sections. Go through and sort out any inconsistencies.
[Kiiwa's Standard]
  1. 00:13:696 (2,1) - This looks really cluttered and unappealing. Consider arranging these objects to appear less cluttered.
  2. 00:20:456 (3,1) - Really inconsistent spacing. Just go through and check for inconsistencies in spacing.
-kevincela-
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-kevincela-

Smoothie World wrote:

[Another]
  1. 01:21:829 (3,4,5) - Even out the spacing on this stream. It's uneven spacing and it's noticeable while playing. done
[Kiiwa's Hyper]
  1. 00:02:710 - This is a powerful tick that deserves to be represented with a clickable object instead of a repeat slider.
  2. 00:04:400 - Same as the above.
  3. 00:07:780 - Similar to the above, since the slider ends on a really powerful downbeat. This happens many more times, so keep this suggestion in mind and apply it to the rest of the map. you have a point, hovewer i don't find them that powerful to completely change the scheme the mapper had in mind there :o
  4. 00:13:907 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Really unreadable for players of this skill level. Consider keeping the spacing more consistent. stacked the last note and make the spacing a bit higher, should be a bit better now
  5. 00:54:998 (7,1) - I don't see a reason for such low spacing here. Just keep it consistent. This happens a couple times, so again, apply this suggestion to other areas. I'm pretty sure Kiiwa here just wants to emphasize the strong beats, which is why this kind of spacing is used. I personally don't have problems with these :P
  6. 01:03:343 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - This pattern is too unreadable for players of this skill level. Consider making it more readable. moved the second square a bit, should be better to read now
  7. 01:27:217 (1,4) - I don't normally point out blankets, but this one is very off. fixed
[Advanced]
  1. 00:13:696 (3,1) - Not sure why this is an inconsistency in spacing. Same goes for 00:01:020 (1,2) and some other sections. Go through and sort out any inconsistencies. this one is because of the sv change, however i fixed the other one at the beginning :P
[Kiiwa's Standard]
  1. 00:13:696 (2,1) - This looks really cluttered and unappealing. Consider arranging these objects to appear less cluttered. made the curve smoother, should be better now
  2. 00:20:456 (3,1) - Really inconsistent spacing. Just go through and check for inconsistencies in spacing. while it's inconsistent i think it quite fits the song, even if it's a easier diff... if more people complain about this i may just modify it in the end
Will get the others to fix the rest soon. Thanks!
Len
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Len 
06:07 Len: 00:56:372 (2,1,2,1) - 
06:07 *Len is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/818372 Masayoshi Minoshima feat. Sakaue Nachi - ILIAS [Kiiwa's Standard]]
06:07 Len: confused a little when i saw
06:07 -kevincela-: mh
06:08 -kevincela-: not sure how to change that without ruining the pattern
06:08 -kevincela-: what if
06:08 -kevincela-: i remove 00:56:372 (2) -
06:09 Len: 00:58:062 (1,1) - 
06:09 Len: orz
06:09 -kevincela-: the transition will become a bit confusing like this tho
06:12 Len: move it 00:58:484 (1) - like this http://puu.sh/qXMeJ/3d92531958.jpg
06:12 -kevincela-: ok removed 00:56:372 - 00:59:752 -
06:12 Len: i think its better
06:12 -kevincela-: let me c
06:12 Len: but idk 
06:12 Len: 00:59:963 (1,2,1) - 
06:13 Len: if u do 
06:13 Len: u have to move 00:59:963 (1,2,1,1) - like this http://puu.sh/qXMlw/8bd9e4c65a.jpg
06:13 Len: 00:59:963 (1,2,1) - rotate 90˚
06:14 -kevincela-: oh yeah nice idea
06:15 -kevincela-: o nice i think i managed
06:15 -kevincela-: to fix it all
06:16 Len: kiiwas hyper
06:17 Len: ar is abit low
06:17 Len: to read those patterns
06:17 -kevincela-: yeah u right
06:17 -kevincela-: i was supposed to raise it but i forgot
06:17 -kevincela-: was thinking about
06:17 -kevincela-: 7.5
06:17 Len: nice
06:18 Len: 00:30:597 (1) - ?
06:19 -kevincela-: is it hard to read?
06:19 Len: try this? http://puu.sh/qXMHV/b13046c89c.jpg
06:19 Len: 00:30:597 (1,2) - 
06:19 -kevincela-: ah i see
06:19 Len: 00:30:597 (1) - stack on 00:29:752 (1) - 
06:19 Len: will be easier than before
06:20 -kevincela-: done
06:20 Len: 00:35:034 (3,4) - no need to stack on here
06:20 Len: it makes hard to read 
06:20 Len: http://puu.sh/qXMNf/563cb39240.jpg
06:21 -kevincela-: ah i see
06:21 Len: its better than before imo
06:21 -kevincela-: what if i unstack only 00:35:245 (4) -
06:21 -kevincela-: i'd like to keep 00:35:034 (3) - cuz same kick
06:21 Len: okok
06:21 -kevincela-: ok then
06:22 Len: 00:41:372 (2) - remove it?
06:23 -kevincela-: hmm i personally like how it plays
06:23 -kevincela-: since all the stacks
06:23 -kevincela-: are the same sounds repeated
06:24 -kevincela-: the distance should also be pretty easy to get
06:24 Len: you are right
06:25 Len: well
06:26 Len: 01:03:766 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - im not sure xd
06:26 -kevincela-: i did my best
06:26 -kevincela-: to make it actually readable LOL
06:26 -kevincela-: first it was
06:26 Len: lol
06:26 -kevincela-: a repeating square
06:27 -kevincela-: moved it so that 01:04:611 (2,3) - could be more visible
06:27 -kevincela-: it's a pretty unusual diff i know xd
06:27 -kevincela-: kiiwa is like that
06:28 Len: really questionable kiiwas style
06:28 Len: orz
06:28 Len: for 01:22:991 - it should be emphasized imo
06:28 Len: no sliders tail
06:30 Len: add 1/2 slider on 01:22:569 - ?
06:30 Len: http://puu.sh/qXNqN/888991eee3.jpg ?
06:30 -kevincela-: oh yeah nice
06:32 Len: 01:42:639 (1) - make triangle with 1's tail and 2's head?
06:32 Len: http://puu.sh/qXNxC/2dfa8d830c.jpg or stack on 2
06:33 -kevincela-: sure
06:33 Len: since the sv changed on 01:42:005 - too hard to catch 01:42:639 (1) - 
06:33 Len: ya
06:34 -kevincela-: oh on damnae's diff
06:34 Len: i will throw on thread
06:34 Len: damnaes
06:34 -kevincela-: 00:13:907 (1,2,3) - i know many ppl will have something to say here
06:34 -kevincela-: but i find it fine
06:34 -kevincela-: cuz its supposed to play like a triplet
06:35 -kevincela-: a player the first time he sees this plays should play it instintively as a triplet
06:35 -kevincela-: at least i did so
06:36 -kevincela-: wait gonna ask damnae if he wants to fix the diff by himself or not
06:36 Len: im not sure about this
06:36 Len: ;w;
06:36 -kevincela-: i expected that xd
06:38 -kevincela-: oh well
06:38 -kevincela-: at best
06:38 -kevincela-: i can replace the 1/12 slider
06:38 -kevincela-: with a simple 1/4 note
06:38 -kevincela-: its kind of a bummer but i knew it would be hard to have that pass rank xd
06:38 Len: wait a min ....
06:39 -kevincela-: sure
06:40 Len: keep it if you and he want
06:40 -kevincela-: i'll ask him first, in the meanwhile you can continue
06:41 Len: but im not sure about someones complaints or something feedback
06:41 Len: 00:47:393 (3) - 
06:42 Len: move to 413 270 is better
06:42 Len: 00:54:576 (2,3) - again lol
06:42 -kevincela-: sure
06:42 -kevincela-: xd
06:44 -kevincela-: hmm
06:44 Len: 01:14:963 (3,4,5,6,1) - 
06:45 Len: http://puu.sh/qXOlX/a1ebd1a5bf.jpg ?
06:45 -kevincela-: i think i'll ask in #nominators for the pattern
06:45 -kevincela-: so i'll see what's the consensus
06:46 Len: 01:21:583 - well
06:47 Len: i think u or he can make easier 
06:47 -kevincela-: hm
06:47 -kevincela-: i personally think they are fine but uh i think i get your point
06:47 Len: if you were him i changed like this http://puu.sh/qXOtL/f9308d4277.jpg
06:47 Len: i were*
06:49 Len: 1/6 triplet then 1/4 streams 
06:49 -kevincela-: what if i
06:49 -kevincela-: keep the spaced 1/4
06:49 -kevincela-: but make the 1/6 into sliders?
06:49 -kevincela-: should be still easy to play
06:49 Len: okok
06:50 Len: 01:48:625 (1,2,3) - same !
06:52 -kevincela-: if possible tho id keep the end one
06:52 -kevincela-: since it should be pretty clear
06:53 -kevincela-: and it's like
06:53 -kevincela-: in all the another difficulties LOL
06:53 Len: okok!!
06:54 Len: priti
06:54 -kevincela-: these are also in priti's diff although i think they are ok ther
06:54 Len: 00:14:012 (2) - 
06:55 Len: 1/12?
06:55 Len: but idk w
06:55 Len: i dont want to make harder
06:55 -kevincela-: oh yeah
06:55 Len: 00:54:576 (5) - same
06:57 Len: sleepy
06:57 -kevincela-: LOL 06:57
06:57 -kevincela-: me irl
06:57 -kevincela-: ok let me fix these sliders
06:58 Len: in elvis
06:58 Len: 00:54:576 - 
06:58 Len: should be emphasiz
06:58 Len: like others
06:59 Len: thats all
06:59 -kevincela-: emphasized in which sense?
06:59 -kevincela-: higher spacing?
06:59 Len: i mean
07:00 Len: well
07:00 Len: seems fine
07:00 Len: sorry!
07:00 -kevincela-: oh
07:00 Len: sleepy.........
07:00 -kevincela-: ok LOL
07:01 -kevincela-: lemme fix these 1/12 stuff a sec
07:01 -kevincela-: ok FUCK IT i think i'll just use a note instead
07:02 Len: on damnae?
07:02 -kevincela-: using 1/12 sliders here will fuck up readability so bad its not even fun
07:02 -kevincela-: no priti's diff
07:03 Len: up to you
07:03 Len: i stayed up 16hours in front of computer
07:03 Len: really tired
07:03 Len: poke me when u r ready!
07:03 -kevincela-: oh wow
07:03 -kevincela-: i'll try to be as fast as possible then

i hope that it helps alot

Edit: some questionable patterns and snaps are improved especially kiiwas diffs
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-kevincela-
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-kevincela-
Thanks and sorry for making you stay up for so long :(
Luel Roseline
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Luel Roseline
OMG kiiwa is back?! Really?!
-kevincela-
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not really, unfortunately this comes from an oldish mapset :(
Seijiro
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fixed a couple of things here and there for readability's sake :3
Flask
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never forget shen mapo vs #arsecrackers 1-0
ReFaller
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LOVE YOU DAMNAE FOR ANOTHER!!! <3 <3
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this is really amazing. by far my favourite map of this year
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