02:39:880 (1,2) - Just a reminder for Irre to make these two more exciting \o/
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Karen wrote:
Extra 和 EX EX 的combo color不一样，自己的diff必须一样 fixed.
Yuki's EX
02:36:262 - 两条绿线 fixed.
wkyik's EX
这diff一点都不几把，我觉得AR9.6太快了，9.3正好
EX EX
00:40:106 (2) - 有什么特殊理由一定要在这里overmap么，完全没听出三连的感觉 仔细听你会发现有三弦的音。
00:40:558 (5) - ^ 平静的地方节奏还是安全点好 同上。
00:43:799 (2,4) - 我觉得这两个滑条，其中一个ctrl+g比较好，这里4个vocal没什么区别，用一种flow就好 咦，感觉有区别耶，00:44:101 (3,4) - 显然是一组，00:43:799 (2) - 相对00:43:498 (1) - 有个很明显的音调转换所以用了反向滑条这样。整体这个梗正好就是跟vocal的区别来着。。。
01:23:146 (6,1) - 这里不做跳真的挺难受 其实这个跳跟01:22:694 (3,4) - 的性质差不多所以。。。就这样吧233.（这种跳反而更难的说噗
thanks for modding!Mao wrote:
02:39:880 (1,2) - Just a reminder for Irre to make these two more exciting \o/ i'll mark that, that gd need some further work to do, i'll let it get done soon.
can't wait for this, go hw go!! ╭( ･ㅂ･)و
Hi HW, sorry for delay we're working on it
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459,310,175558,5,4,1:2:0:0:
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316,192,175860,5,8,1:0:0:0:
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300,142,176010,1,8,0:3:0:0:
274,150,176086,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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474,225,176914,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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480,172,177518,1,8,0:3:0:0:
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thanks for patience.
why not bubble this when there is a fanzhen diff
OH MY GOD IT'S BUBBLED SOSNOERENR334P3MFP
Can't wait for the enormous shitstorm that will come after qualifying :')
Can't wait for the enormous shitstorm that will come after qualifying :')
Karen wrote:
why not rebubble this when there is a fanzhen diff
If a BNs have many doubts about EX EX diff, i'll just give my "ok" to it.
I don't have time to check long mapsets like this or any map.
Good luck in qualifying it ! :3
I don't have time to check long mapsets like this or any map.
Good luck in qualifying it ! :3
Little suggeston:
Please change the CS of the EX EX diff to CS 3.5
It doesn't change the difficulty by much but makes HR plays more difficult to pull off.
Thanks!
Please change the CS of the EX EX diff to CS 3.5
It doesn't change the difficulty by much but makes HR plays more difficult to pull off.
Thanks!
I just passed the newest EX EX version on my first try.
I should not be able to pass EX EX. CS3 is a huge nerf for this diff.
This post-bubble change is really weird.
I should not be able to pass EX EX. CS3 is a huge nerf for this diff.
This post-bubble change is really weird.
sad that the cs change nerfs EX EX diff so much 
CS should definitely be 3.5 imo
It looks really cramped on CS3 (to me at least)
Also doesn't make sense that EX EX is below an EX but I mean that's just naming so it's not that important
It looks really cramped on CS3 (to me at least)
Also doesn't make sense that EX EX is below an EX but I mean that's just naming so it's not that important
Agree with the above few posters, CS 3 is too heavy-handed a nerf and makes the map feel squished.
Why not try CS 7
Change the CS to 3.5 pls. With CS 3 , there is a good amount of overlaps. It will reduce that.
posting here so I get to know when this is ranked 
i may post some suggestions whenever a BN comes to check the map but i don't think it's worth a pop right now
i may post some suggestions whenever a BN comes to check the map but i don't think it's worth a pop right now
S A K E R U
:O
Seems good. Let's go!
NotLikeThis
Nice to see CLSW and examination on tags even if their diffs got removed 
On a side note, congrats
On a side note, congrats
I'd like to play this, can't read AR 10 though
HERE WE GO
Tfw this and Ryoushi no Umi no Lindwurm is qualified on the same day.
Still wish EX EX was the highest diff.
Still wish EX EX was the highest diff.
Ooh very nice. That took quite a long time from bubbled to qualified.
Congratz
Congratz
Xexxar wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/374793
EX EX diff is questionable.
If you want my reasons for why:
From a purely play perspective the high AR makes the map more difficult due to the excessively high and extremely difficult SV changes. With a lower AR the map would be a bit easier to read due to more time to react to the aforementioned SV changes.
The style of the map is absolutely atrocious from modern standards. You can give me the whole "artistic" mumbo jumbo but ultimately when I look at this map I just see laziness and clunky design. Literally how does this warrant any reason to being made this way? The pattern implies emphasis on the 1/4th blue tick due to how it it is awkwardly placed off stack, yet the music has the strong beat on the following slider, not the blue tick.
I just don't see how styles like this can be approved while other mappers are rejected. As a mapper it's a slap in the face when perfectly normal quality beatmaps are rejected from countless BNs simply out of laziness and yet this extremely unorthodox mapping gets qualified.
On a more serious note.Xexxar wrote:
Xexxar wrote:
I don't like artistic mapping and HW sucks because my opinion is objective. Why don't Rabbit Jumping maps get ranked while this does? Clearly unfair.
Xexxar wrote:
Xexxar wrote:
From a purely play perspective the high AR makes the map more difficult due to the excessively high and extremely difficult SV changes. With a lower AR the map would be a bit easier to read due to more time to react to the aforementioned SV changes. I'm all for enforcing reading on lower ARs, but in this case, the faster AR makes the map more suitable for reading. Besides, there's a ridiculous amount of overlaps that are awfully ridiculous to play with any AR lower than 9.5 (and this comes from the guy who is always complaining about people not being able to read). This beatmap has niche styles of reading, which is why "classic" reading shouldn't be enforced here.
The style of the map is absolutely atrocious from modern standards. You can give me the whole "artistic" mumbo jumbo but ultimately when I look at this map I just see laziness and clunky design. That's completely subjective. I find the map very well-planed and the sliders are all there for a reason and it fits perfectly with the song. Don't give me the "I see laziness so that's how it is, my opinion is the right one and the mapper clearly doesn't know what they are doing" bullshit.
Literally how does this warrant any reason to being made this way? The pattern implies emphasis on the 1/4th blue tick due to how it it is awkwardly placed off stack, yet the music has the strong beat on the following slider, not the blue tick. It's not implying that the 1/4 blue tick is emphasized (and it actually is. there are different sections in the song that sound similar, yet there is no 1/4 there, so the 1/4 here is emphasized). It's pattern-based mapping that in this case makes the map easier to read (and come on, that pattern doesn't play any bad at all if you actually know how to play a beatmap like this. dopamine has much worse-looking stuff, and this isn't even a valid excuse to compare it to dopamine.. but you get my point)
I just don't see how styles like this can be approved while other mappers are rejected. As a mapper it's a slap in the face when perfectly normal quality beatmaps are rejected from countless BNs simply out of laziness and yet this extremely unorthodox mapping gets qualified. Stop. Giving. This. Excuse. These maps you mention are not ranked because they are simply of low quality or the mappers don't have enough will to get their maps modded. I say this as someone who really struggles to get their maps ranked because of lack of BN connections. The "why is this ranked while 'good' maps aren't?" excuse is completely meaningless. Rabbit Jumping maps aren't better than this. CRN maps aren't better than this. If you want to look at the game in an objective way (since you're trying to get this disqualified because you don't like the mapping style, as, in your opinion, it's "objectively worse") then you should have a good logic and actually not use that awful excuse.
Everyone is unhappy about the EX diff.
Meanwhile, I quite enjoy playing the other diffs.
Great job on the diffs guest mappers!
(Hollow Wings, sorry, I have no skill in playing your diffs ;-;)
Meanwhile, I quite enjoy playing the other diffs.
Great job on the diffs guest mappers!
(Hollow Wings, sorry, I have no skill in playing your diffs ;-;)
meh, personally I don't see a need for CS 3 on EX EX. the gimmick of the map is fast sliders, which is playable, even on high CS like 4 or 5. as it is right now it just feels needlessly tacked onto the map, which iirc was built around CS 4 to begin with.
idk. not a fan of it. the diff seems cool though. top diff is fucking amazing.
idk. not a fan of it. the diff seems cool though. top diff is fucking amazing.
Stella's Hyper :
01:37:468 (4) - shouldn't the slider tail be snapped to 1/4 like the rest of diffs, also the music is suggesting that, personally I don't see how 1/16 makes sense here.
Enjoy's Standard:
01:41:387 (1,2) - spacing
Edit:
-kevincela-'s EX:
01:04:000 (1) - offscreen
02:01:663 (5) - same
02:01:587 (4) - almooooooooost
01:37:468 (4) - shouldn't the slider tail be snapped to 1/4 like the rest of diffs, also the music is suggesting that, personally I don't see how 1/16 makes sense here.
Enjoy's Standard:
01:41:387 (1,2) - spacing
Edit:
-kevincela-'s EX:
01:04:000 (1) - offscreen
02:01:663 (5) - same
02:01:587 (4) - almooooooooost
completely playable and fun
Xexxar wrote:
From a purely play perspective the high AR makes the map more difficult due to the excessively high and extremely difficult SV changes. With a lower AR the map would be a bit easier to read due to more time to react to the aforementioned SV changes.
This mapping style definitely would make you think at least AR9.5 but if you've played https://osu.ppy.sh/b/431717 it's true that AR9 works perfectly fine for it. Up for debate which is preferred - should be polled by capable players.Blue Dragon wrote:
I'm all for enforcing reading on lower ARs, but in this case, the faster AR makes the map more suitable for reading. Besides, there's a ridiculous amount of overlaps that are awfully ridiculous to play with any AR lower than 9.5 (and this comes from the guy who is always complaining about people not being able to read). This beatmap has niche styles of reading, which is why "classic" reading shouldn't be enforced here.
Xexxar wrote:
The style of the map is absolutely atrocious from modern standards. You can give me the whole "artistic" mumbo jumbo but ultimately when I look at this map I just see laziness and clunky design.
It's not subjective. Mapping is art only so long as you keep it within the confines of it being a game with regards to the audience. When you go full arthouse style that just doesn't belong to ranked (although I will concede in special cases like LeaF - Evanescent).Blue Dragon wrote:
That's completely subjective. I find the map very well-planed and the sliders are all there for a reason and it fits perfectly with the song. Don't give me the "I see laziness so that's how it is, my opinion is the right one and the mapper clearly doesn't know what they are doing" bullshit.
Xexxar wrote:
Literally how does this warrant any reason to being made this way? The pattern implies emphasis on the 1/4th blue tick due to how it it is awkwardly placed off stack, yet the music has the strong beat on the following slider, not the blue tick.
>an actual mod in this thread hoLY FUCK I thought I was dreaming. Looked through this entire thread and not a single mod was made by someone who was capable of playing EX EX (probably most of the Extras though this mapset isn't even worth the effort). How did this even get through? P.S. Dopamine is garbage and should never have been ranked either.Blue Dragon wrote:
It's not implying that the 1/4 blue tick is emphasized (and it actually is. there are different sections in the song that sound similar, yet there is no 1/4 there, so the 1/4 here is emphasized). It's pattern-based mapping that in this case makes the map easier to read (and come on, that pattern doesn't play any bad at all if you actually know how to play a beatmap like this. dopamine has much worse-looking stuff, and this isn't even a valid excuse to compare it to dopamine.. but you get my point)
Xexxar wrote:
I just don't see how styles like this can be approved while other mappers are rejected. As a mapper it's a slap in the face when perfectly normal quality beatmaps are rejected from countless BNs simply out of laziness and yet this extremely unorthodox mapping gets qualified.
Stop. Giving. This. Excuse. The majority of maps being ranked aren't good. To argue that because a map cannot be ranked because it wasn't good enough is a fallacy. It's incredibly dishonest of you to introduce Snow Rabbit into the conversation and argue against it (even though everyone would agree the maps are bad + I don't see Xexxar mentioning them anywhere) thus straw-manning.Blue Dragon wrote:
Stop. Giving. This. Excuse. These maps you mention are not ranked because they are simply of low quality or the mappers don't have enough will to get their maps modded. I say this as someone who really struggles to get their maps ranked because of lack of BN connections. The "why is this ranked while 'good' maps aren't?" excuse is completely meaningless. Rabbit Jumping maps aren't better than this. CRN maps aren't better than this. If you want to look at the game in an objective way (since you're trying to get this disqualified because you don't like the mapping style, as, in your opinion, it's "objectively worse") then you should have a good logic and actually not use that awful excuse.
Purely artistic mapping should not be rankable. It's not a place for a mapper to be completely self-indulgent. HW hasn't produced a single good map. It is unfair that a repeat offender gets to do whatever they want when they have been actively harming mapping for the last two(?) years.Blue Dragon wrote:
"I don't like artistic mapping and HW sucks because my opinion is objective. Why don't Rabbit Jumping maps get ranked while this does? Clearly unfair."
What are the chances that EX EX (and most other Extras) were modded?
Were they modded by players?
Were those players capable?
Were they biased?
Were they able to articulate their thoughts on the map?
How many were there?
If you can't do that then there is no way in hell you are going to make a decent 6*+ map. Once again - artistic maps don't count.
If you think I'm not capable of enjoying such maps you are brain-dead and have completely missed the point.
hOLY please, this is atleaat better than literally mapping My Hero! for the ppXexxar wrote:
Xexxar wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/374793
EX EX diff is questionable.
If you want my reasons for why:
From a purely play perspective the high AR makes the map more difficult due to the excessively high and extremely difficult SV changes. With a lower AR the map would be a bit easier to read due to more time to react to the aforementioned SV changes.
The style of the map is absolutely atrocious from modern standards. You can give me the whole "artistic" mumbo jumbo but ultimately when I look at this map I just see laziness and clunky design. Literally how does this warrant any reason to being made this way? The pattern implies emphasis on the 1/4th blue tick due to how it it is awkwardly placed off stack, yet the music has the strong beat on the following slider, not the blue tick.
I just don't see how styles like this can be approved while other mappers are rejected. As a mapper it's a slap in the face when perfectly normal quality beatmaps are rejected from countless BNs simply out of laziness and yet this extremely unorthodox mapping gets qualified.
I don't see why you need to get jealous mode every time a mapset better than any one you'll ever make gets qualified. Your maps are in no way or shape better and you always blame it on the fact that it's Hollow Wings, Skystar or some other mapper you consider maps differently from average pp Taeyang mapping structure you use. It doesn't get qualified because of their names, look at other maps like P o M u T a, val0108, grumd, Blue Dragon ( and this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/388036) etc that's extremely distinguishable from other maps. The reason they get their shit ranked is because they have the mapping skills (years of experience) and experience to rank these, and also they're the only ones using their own mapping styles rather than copying others. Meanwhile you're a murican user of 3 years with garbage-level mapping skills who's can do nothing but cry about HW and Skystar. If everyone mapped like you and Taeyang, this game would be boring af. And if My Hero! can get ranked, I believe even Snow Rabbit Jumping maps should be able to.
Ugh god not you too. HW has made good maps, not in your opinion apparently. I don't see many maps (if any at all) at 2014 that could come close to Sentimental Skyscraper (HW Version, which is argubly the best one so far) and map like Genryuu Kaiko, which for some reason is the only map that few people can agree on is a good HW map, which is sad. And all the maps he made are very different from each other somehow, even though being the same genre/artists, so saying "repeat offender" is nothing but an insult.JappyBabes wrote:
Purely artistic mapping should not be rankable. It's not a place for a mapper to be completely self-indulgent. HW hasn't produced a single good map. It is unfair that a repeat offender gets to do whatever they want when they have been actively harming mapping for the last two(?) years.