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I am dting quite abit yeah, although throughout the day im only playing nomod's, if i struggle i get bored and frustrated, thats when i play dt and when i rank like i did tonight, go a new top play and took me below 50k, i continue to play it rofl
Stop playing DT for rank until that DT is about 5.5* or the nomods are around 4.00* and you can fc them. Go back to playing harder nomods at whatever the level of nomods you can fc or continue to not develop any sort of aim or complex pattern reading abilities. That is my advice.
For the record I moved to DT when I had ~4400pp and my top nomods were about 200-220pp/and I was fcing between 5.3-5.9* depending on the nomod map. The DT maps were around 5.4-5.6* after DT and roughly around 4.00* nomod.
This map was around the level of a 140pp fc for me when I fc'd it:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/227772
Compare it to your hards + DT
Here's another one of my 140's pp plays from a year and 2 months ago https://osu.ppy.sh/b/192508 I got 144pp from this
Do you see the aim difference requirements?
For the record I moved to DT when I had ~4400pp and my top nomods were about 200-220pp/and I was fcing between 5.3-5.9* depending on the nomod map. The DT maps were around 5.4-5.6* after DT and roughly around 4.00* nomod.
This map was around the level of a 140pp fc for me when I fc'd it:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/227772
Compare it to your hards + DT
Here's another one of my 140's pp plays from a year and 2 months ago https://osu.ppy.sh/b/192508 I got 144pp from this
Do you see the aim difference requirements?
i couldnt FC 4 star AR9 maps at rank 10k because of playing 99% DT, good luck if u choose to continue
the games a lot more fun when you have to work for your PP, feels like you accomplished something and improved yourself. I could probably shit out 140+pp scores if I chose to use DT, 140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as DT.
and btw you not being able to jump is because of DT 100%, the same thing happened to me and it wont get any better until you go back to AR8 and build your reading back up.
the games a lot more fun when you have to work for your PP, feels like you accomplished something and improved yourself. I could probably shit out 140+pp scores if I chose to use DT, 140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as DT.
and btw you not being able to jump is because of DT 100%, the same thing happened to me and it wont get any better until you go back to AR8 and build your reading back up.
I hope you mean to say 140pp DTsayonara_sekai wrote:
i couldnt FC 4 star AR9 maps at rank 10k because of playing 99% DT, good luck if u choose to continue
the games a lot more fun when you have to work for your PP, feels like you accomplished something and improved yourself. I could probably shit out 140+pp scores if I chose to use DT, 140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as DT.
? thats what i said. 140pp with DT is a joke and a real ball buster with nomod.
This doesn't mean what you thought it means. DT is hard if you're actually playing insanes with DT and it's at least above 230 bpm. Hards with DT aren't fucking worthwhile at all and I wish people stopped doing that.sayonara_sekai wrote:
140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as DT.
what? AR8 hards are 140pp territory and are incredibly easy compared to SSing a 4.6-4.7 star OD8 map
140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as DT = 140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as ALL dt. Do you not understand what you say?sayonara_sekai wrote:
what? AR8 hards are 140pp territory and are incredibly easy compared to SSing a 4.6-4.7 star OD8 map
I think what he wants to say is.Khelly wrote:
140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as DT = 140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as ALL dt. Do you not understand what you say?sayonara_sekai wrote:
what? AR8 hards are 140pp territory and are incredibly easy compared to SSing a 4.6-4.7 star OD8 map
Its easier to get a "X" pp score with ar8+DT. than playing a no mod map that would give the same amount of pp.
for example:
Babs seed + HDDT SS = 200
Eien Friends + HD 100x2 = 200.
Eien Friends + HD is harder for me at least.
yes 140pp with nomod is 5x harder than 140pp with dt. obviously assuming that he isnt playing some ridiculous CS5 mistimed 2009 maps with DT, which he isnt.
of course I know playing 4+ star maps with DT is fucking hard hurr. But thats way above 140pp territory.
of course I know playing 4+ star maps with DT is fucking hard hurr. But thats way above 140pp territory.
5x is a little bit exaggerated though.. let's settle with about 2x or 3x harder.sayonara_sekai wrote:
yes 140pp with nomod is 5x harder than 140pp with dt. obviously assuming that he isnt playing some ridiculous CS5 mistimed 2009 maps with DT, which he isnt.
of course I know playing 4+ star maps with DT is fucking hard hurr. But thats way above 140pp territory.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/4738 This is a great non mistimed 2009 DT map.
did you know more maps like that? I basically looking for ar8/od8 to od10 old maps with a good mapping.Khelly wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/4738 This is a great non mistimed 2009 DT map.
I have lots of old maps, but they're from a time where ar = od and they're all ar 6 to 8 thus od 6 to 8.Xeiiryuu wrote:
did you know more maps like that? I basically looking for ar8/od8 to od10 old maps with a good mapping.Khelly wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/4738 This is a great non mistimed 2009 DT map.
Interesting, a lot of the discussions recently have led to discussing DT.Although here op mentioned it.
dt on hard 2-5 times easier though?
Seems quite extreme.
Btw I don't think it's that bad that you are not able to play a map exactly like you used to, i don't think i can.
But i can see why you are not happy about it.
Anyway, good luck.
dt on hard 2-5 times easier though?
Seems quite extreme.
Btw I don't think it's that bad that you are not able to play a map exactly like you used to, i don't think i can.
But i can see why you are not happy about it.
Anyway, good luck.
If you have the speed then yes, it is way easier if you compare it to nomod with same star rating.ShadyAngel wrote:
dt on hard 2-5 times easier though?
Ive seen some 6.2*+ nomods easier than lower star dt I obviously have the speed forDeathAdderz wrote:
If you have the speed then yes, it is way easier if you compare it to nomod with same star rating.ShadyAngel wrote:
dt on hard 2-5 times easier though?
Hard diffs + DT doesn't reach 6.2*Khelly wrote:
Ive seen some 6.2*+ nomods easier than lower star dt I obviously have the speed for
He did say it's DT on hard diffs, which is usually around 5*
Edit : I might need to say most of the time, because I don't play much DT so I don't know much
Oh yeah on hard they're basically going to be that way all until 5.5* and it doesn't distinguish itself until nearly 6.00
I'd argue that it is worthwhile to play them to build speed and stamina in your tapping hand. Hards with DT were the first maps that really forced me to use my wrist, although they (of course) did only little for me in terms of getting more consistent or good at aiming.Khelly wrote:
This doesn't mean what you thought it means. DT is hard if you're actually playing insanes with DT and it's at least above 230 bpm. Hards with DT aren't fucking worthwhile at all and I wish people stopped doing that.sayonara_sekai wrote:
140pp nomod is at least 5x as hard as DT.
You have to start somewhere, and DT hards are a good starting point. Although, the main goal should always be to move on from that and pushing to play harder maps. And NEVER abandon nomod.
There are plenty of worthwhile nomods that will already handle that for you