Reol - Netoge Haijin Sprechchor [Osu|Taiko] · forum

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Log Off Now 2016-03-15T17:01:10+00:00

Hi, M4M (requested to go first)

[General]

Looks fine, although maybe an insane diff can be added? Around 4.6*?? Would just make the spread a lot better

[Squirrels Easy]

This diff is so good, just fix tags since they conflict with the other diffs ^^

[Normal]

Can you lower the volume of the slider tick snares? They sound like normal notes which might be off putting if newer players aren't used to it. Even if it's only a little bit it would help a lot

00:05:541 (1,2) - Nazi Blanket, move middle slider point in just a little bit to get this perfect

00:12:398 (3) - Consider moving slider end to x:380 y:62? It just gives a much clearer indication of the flow and also is less of a flow break

00:55:598 (4) - Ctrl + J and move back to original position? This shape just looks weird to me tbh, in additon to this you could change this wave slider so it blankets 00:55:598 (4) - for an even better shape and look to the map whilst also having a good flow into 00:57:312 (2)

01:00:741 (3,5) - Nazi Blanket, again move slider middle in just a little bit to get it perfect

01:03:141 (2) - Ctrl + Shift + R 40 degrees and move to similar position in screenshot for a much better flow and shape coming out of 01:02:112 (1) and going into 01:04:170 (3)

01:09:998 (1,1) - Nazi blanket

01:16:855 (3) - Ctrl + H > J > G?

01:17:541 (4) - Is this flow break really necessary? I think it would play fine if you moved it to the end of 01:16:855 (3) - making a more box shape into 01:17:884 (5,1)

01:27:141 (2) - Ctrl + H > Move to original position? Again its super minor and aesthetic but I just prefer it this way

01:47:370 (1) - This doesn't make any sense to me, if you wanted to map this section to the piano (which looks like the intention) I would do something like this instead, much easier to read and understand

screenshot

[MadoX Hard]

Rhythm is solid in this difficulty, major issue is blankets really, also where are the hitsounds XD

00:16:512 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved (move (1)'s middle point further out)

00:21:998 (1,2) - Nazi blanket (slider 1 tail)

00:27:484 (1,2) - Nazi blanket - ok so theres a lot of blanket issues, I would suggest going through your diff and checking them all out

01:15:484 (1,2,3,4) - Flow here is really weird imo, not sure how you could change it without ruining the shape though, maybe fiddle with Ctrl + G a little?

01:56:284 (4) - Honestly I don't think this note is needed, removing this note would give added emphasis on the piano which is what it looks like you're following (i think?)

[]

I didn't go any further since I can't really mod or pass 5* songs consistently, although going over your light extra I noticed a lot of unnecessary triples that are either following extremely quiet hihats or nothing at all and sometimes they honestly just look like they're there for difficulty reasons, I would reconsider your placements for these. There also some 'interesting' stream shapes which i'm unsure about.

Hope this helps!

Lefia

674 posts

Joined August 2014

Lefia 2016-03-17T07:29:44+00:00

updated

MadaoX's Hard

osu file format v14

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Title:Netoge Haijin Sprechchor
TitleUnicode:ネトゲ廃人シュプレヒコール
Artist:Reol
ArtistUnicode:れをる
Creator:A r M i N
Version:MadaoX's Hard
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Tags:Armin Hatsune Miku Niko Douga Girl SnowNiNo_ NiNo MadaoX OzzyOzrock Ozzy Yora Yoratama Razakisu Squirrel Chocola Choco
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A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-03-17T16:41:22+00:00

Log Off Now wrote:
Hi, M4M (requested to go first)

[General]

Looks fine, although maybe an insane diff can be added? Around 4.6*?? Would just make the spread a lot better

[Squirrels Easy]

This diff is so good, just fix tags since they conflict with the other diffs ^^

[Normal]

Can you lower the volume of the slider tick snares? They sound like normal notes which might be off putting if newer players aren't used to it. Even if it's only a little bit it would help a lot

00:05:541 (1,2) - Nazi Blanket, move middle slider point in just a little bit to get this perfect

00:12:398 (3) - Consider moving slider end to x:380 y:62? It just gives a much clearer indication of the flow and also is less of a flow break

00:55:598 (4) - Ctrl + J and move back to original position? This shape just looks weird to me tbh, in additon to this you could change this wave slider so it blankets 00:55:598 (4) - for an even better shape and look to the map whilst also having a good flow into 00:57:312 (2)

01:00:741 (3,5) - Nazi Blanket, again move slider middle in just a little bit to get it perfect

01:03:141 (2) - Ctrl + Shift + R 40 degrees and move to similar position in screenshot for a much better flow and shape coming out of 01:02:112 (1) and going into 01:04:170 (3)

01:09:998 (1,1) - Nazi blanket

01:16:855 (3) - Ctrl + H > J > G?

01:17:541 (4) - Is this flow break really necessary? I think it would play fine if you moved it to the end of 01:16:855 (3) - making a more box shape into 01:17:884 (5,1)

01:27:141 (2) - Ctrl + H > Move to original position? Again its super minor and aesthetic but I just prefer it this way

01:47:370 (1) - This doesn't make any sense to me, if you wanted to map this section to the piano (which looks like the intention) I would do something like this instead, much easier to read and understand

screenshot

[MadoX Hard]

Rhythm is solid in this difficulty, major issue is blankets really, also where are the hitsounds XD

00:16:512 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved (move (1)'s middle point further out)

00:21:998 (1,2) - Nazi blanket (slider 1 tail)

00:27:484 (1,2) - Nazi blanket - ok so theres a lot of blanket issues, I would suggest going through your diff and checking them all out

01:15:484 (1,2,3,4) - Flow here is really weird imo, not sure how you could change it without ruining the shape though, maybe fiddle with Ctrl + G a little?

01:56:284 (4) - Honestly I don't think this note is needed, removing this note would give added emphasis on the piano which is what it looks like you're following (i think?)

[]

I didn't go any further since I can't really mod or pass 5* songs consistently, although going over your light extra I noticed a lot of unnecessary triples that are either following extremely quiet hihats or nothing at all and sometimes they honestly just look like they're there for difficulty reasons, I would reconsider your placements for these. There also some 'interesting' stream shapes which i'm unsure about.

Hope this helps!

Thanks

snz

877 posts

Joined February 2015

snz 2016-03-18T16:22:05+00:00

From my queue.

Information
d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
^ = Read Before

Yora's Muzukashii

00:21:141 (10) - charge to k
00:58:598 (11) - ^
01:28:684 (11) - ^
01:39:142 (8,9) - Ctrl+G
01:47:027 (2) - Charge to D

Ozzy's Oni

00:26:627 (160) - charge to k
01:00:912 (365,366,367,368) - try kkdk
01:23:198 (46) - charge to k
01:55:770 (240,242) - ^

Good luck with rank

GENDER BENDER

197 posts

Joined June 2013

GENDER BENDER 2016-03-18T18:36:45+00:00

M4M o/
Osu needs more Reol
I'm bad at Easy, Normal, Hard so I pass on those xD
You're missing Insane difficulty CAN I MAKE
Anyways here you go:

I LOVE MOPPING

Light Extra
- Light Extra has more combo than Nino's Extra. Consider reducing note density.
- Spread needs some work (Ctrl-A) you're not using the sides at all.
- Kiai time should be more spaced than non-kiai. I feel
01:00:227 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - DS felt too big for me, song intensity did not change that much
01:02:455 (3,4,5,6) - Stacks don't feel right, make pattern
01:15:827 (3) - Not perfectly parallel
01:11:884 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - DS felt too big for me again
01:22:341 (1,2,3,4,5) - If you're gonna buildup for kiai time (Assuming you are since 01:20:970 (1,2) are pretty spaced out), distance these notes more
01:30:398 (8) - Awkward flow

NiNo's Extra
00:10:598 (6) - The clap should be on 7.
00:21:484 (5) - I hear a triple here, maybe instead of the slider.
00:29:970 - Missing beat, I think it would play better if there was a note.
00:32:712 - ^
00:37:083 (1) - Fix clap please.
01:06:055 (1) - I don't like stacking this under the slider, snap it maybe?
01:31:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - DS is a bit big, be consistant with your previous streams.
01:42:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
01:44:284 (1) - hitsounds are too quiet for me.

Razakisu's Ultra
- Missing hitsounds (obviously)
- I think you should put more sliders and less circles
- Flow needs some work
- Fix note spread a bit (Ctrl-A to see), top right & bottom right corner has almost no notes.
- the DS of the 1/16 notes keeps changing even though song intensity stays the same, I think it should stay more consistant. Like a lot of the spaced triples are unnecessary. I suggest changing the spaced triples.
00:15:398 (2,3,1,2) - These paralleled notes don't play very well, hard to see and doesn't go with flow. Please consider changing them to a different pattern.
00:37:427 (1) - sv change is too big imo, doesn't sync with song. Generally maps don't use x2.00.
01:15:484 (1,2,3) - Sounds similar to the pattern here 01:06:055 (1) , no need to change to short sliders just stick with the previous pattern.
01:15:484 (1,2,3) - ^
01:44:627 (1) - also sv change is too big

I LOVE MOPPING
Oh yeah good luck

Rethor

69 posts

Joined August 2013

Rethor 2016-03-18T19:20:03+00:00

warpgenius wrote:
Razakisu's Ultra
- Missing hitsounds (obviously) Yup, yup, ill get them done soon
- I think you should put more sliders and less circles It's more fun and demanding that way
- Flow needs some work Welp, im trying to work on it.
- Fix note spread a bit (Ctrl-A to see), top right & bottom right corner has almost no notes. I'd love to, but its not that easy after having the whole map done and all patterns set, etc. Also i dont think its that much of a problem to worry about.
- the DS of the 1/16 notes keeps changing even though song intensity stays the same, I think it should stay more consistant. Like a lot of the spaced triples are unnecessary. I suggest changing the spaced triples. What 1/16 notes? O.o / Fixed those that were unnecessary.
00:15:398 (2,3,1,2) - These paralleled notes don't play very well, hard to see and doesn't go with flow. Please consider changing them to a different pattern. Works well for me, plays completely fine and it also did for the testplayers.
00:37:427 (1) - sv change is too big imo, doesn't sync with song. Generally maps don't use x2.00. It is used to emphasize the "whoosh" sound and it doesn't really cause any problems in terms of playability. The slider is short and the next note has a high DS to make it play fine. I'll wait and see what other modders say about it.
01:15:484 (1,2,3) - Sounds similar to the pattern here 01:06:055 (1) , no need to change to short sliders just stick with the previous pattern. The pattern is changed because of the different vocal and i dont think the same slow slider pattern would work here.
01:15:484 (1,2,3) - ^
01:44:627 (1) - also sv change is too big[/box] Same as above

Thanks for modding!

>>>UPDATED<<<

osu file format v14

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Yoratama

424 posts

Joined February 2016

Yoratama 2016-03-19T00:26:15+00:00

Ppus wrote:
From my queue.

Information
d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
^ = Read Before

Yora's Muzukashii

00:21:141 (10) - charge to k
00:58:598 (11) - ^
01:28:684 (11) - ^
01:39:142 (8,9) - Ctrl+G Sound weird, i keep it
01:47:027 (2) - Charge to D

Good luck with rank

Thanks for modding

Here the update

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Yora's Muzukashii

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SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-03-19T05:05:55+00:00

warpgenius wrote:
NiNo's Extra
00:10:598 (6) - The clap should be on 7. fixed
00:21:484 (5) - I hear a triple here, maybe instead of the slider. match vocal here
00:29:970 - Missing beat, I think it would play better if there was a note. added
00:32:712 - ^ added
00:37:083 (1) - Fix clap please. same here with light extra diff
01:06:055 (1) - I don't like stacking this under the slider, snap it maybe? nope i like this part
01:31:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - DS is a bit big, be consistant with your previous streams. nope since is in kiai mode
01:42:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^ ^
01:44:284 (1) - hitsounds are too quiet for me. decreasing volume tho, but sound pretty fine to me

thanks for mod
http://puu.sh/nLOsP/d4aca291ef.rar

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-03-19T12:30:14+00:00

Ppus wrote:
From my queue.

Information
d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
^ = Read Before

Yora's Muzukashii

00:21:141 (10) - charge to k
00:58:598 (11) - ^
01:28:684 (11) - ^
01:39:142 (8,9) - Ctrl+G
01:47:027 (2) - Charge to D

Ozzy's Oni

00:26:627 (160) - charge to k
01:00:912 (365,366,367,368) - try kkdk
01:23:198 (46) - charge to k
01:55:770 (240,242) - ^

Good luck with rank

ty:D

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

OzzyOzrock 2016-03-19T19:19:30+00:00

OnosakiHito wrote:
Ozzy is not taking this serious enough!

I WILL FIGHT YOU

Ppus wrote:
Ozzy's Oni

00:26:627 (160) - charge to k
01:00:912 (365,366,367,368) - try kkdk
01:23:198 (46) - charge to k
01:55:770 (240,242) - ^

No change.

Black Emptiness

Black Emptiness 2016-03-20T10:59:40+00:00

m4m from your queue

Normal:
* 00:34:341 (3) - Make the shape smoother like you did here: 00:32:970 (1,2) -
* 01:11:370 (1) - Remove NC.

MadaoX's Hard:
* 00:12:227 (5,1) - Not stacked properly.
* 00:30:741 (2,4) - Ctrl+G for better flow
* 01:41:027 (3) - ^

can't mod ultra/extra diffs. not enough experienced.
Good Luck, A r M i N

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-03-20T14:15:17+00:00

Black Emptiness wrote:
m4m from your queue

Normal:
* 00:34:341 (3) - Make the shape smoother like you did here: 00:32:970 (1,2) - No change
* 01:11:370 (1) - Remove NC. No change

MadaoX's Hard:
* 00:12:227 (5,1) - Not stacked properly.
* 00:30:741 (2,4) - Ctrl+G for better flow fixed
* 01:41:027 (3) - ^ fixed

can't mod ultra/extra diffs. not enough experienced.
Good Luck, A r M i N

Thanks

DeletedUser_3638005

DeletedUser_3638005 2016-03-20T20:23:32+00:00

IRC Mod

2016-03-20 14:30 A r M i N: hey, You do testplays right ? :3 Even tho i dont think my map is too great, do you wanna try it ? ^^
2016-03-20 14:31 Riven: not really warmed up but sure
2016-03-20 14:31 A r M i N: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/896077 Reol - Netoge Haijin Sprechchor]
2016-03-20 14:31 A r M i N: The Light Extra mainly
2016-03-20 14:31 Riven: okay
2016-03-20 14:31 Riven: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/896077 Reol - Netoge Haijin Sprechchor [Light Extra]]
2016-03-20 14:33 Riven: ignore the bad aim, first map of the day xd
2016-03-20 14:34 A r M i N: thats no problem
2016-03-20 14:34 Riven: i like it
2016-03-20 14:34 A r M i N: really

?
2016-03-20 14:34 Riven: i have actually already played the hardest diff
2016-03-20 14:34 A r M i N: cool ^^
2016-03-20 14:34 Riven: 00:11:370 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - this flow is pretty weird though
2016-03-20 14:35 A r M i N: What do you reccomend to do ?
2016-03-20 14:36 Riven: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4756749
2016-03-20 14:38 A r M i N: where did u place the 2 sliders then
2016-03-20 14:38 Riven: like, usually circular and linear flow is pretty weird to play
2016-03-20 14:38 Riven: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4756761
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: you should try to avoid that
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: linear jumps actually
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: linear flow with small spacing can work
2016-03-20 14:39 A r M i N: Oh ya so try placing jumps in an sharp angle ?
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: yes
2016-03-20 14:39 A r M i N: got it
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4756767
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: 00:11:884 (8,9,1) -
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: that's so hard to hit
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: and it doesn't really fit
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: xd
2016-03-20 14:41 A r M i N: ^^
2016-03-20 14:41 Riven: you do that in a few other parts of the map too
2016-03-20 14:41 Riven: idk you might want to fix that if you want
2016-03-20 14:42 A r M i N: wait what were you trying to say with that
2016-03-20 14:42 A r M i N: isnt that like the most linear jump you can do
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: ?
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: yea
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: lol
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: im not telling you to put linear jumps
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: fix the circular and linear jumps in your map xd
2016-03-20 14:43 Riven: i also have a replay for the hardest diff if you want to see it http://puu.sh/nNgjr/fbc23f2395.osr
2016-03-20 14:43 A r M i N: okay but why did you send me that screenshot tehn

2016-03-20 14:43 A r M i N: ill watch it later
2016-03-20 14:43 Riven: to prevent you from putting linear jumps in the future

2016-03-20 14:43 A r M i N: lol thanks

2016-03-20 14:45 A r M i N: u got any more examples for the linear jumps ?
2016-03-20 14:45 Riven: in your map?
2016-03-20 14:46 A r M i N: jup
2016-03-20 14:47 Riven: 00:21:655 (5,6,1) - 00:22:512 (4,5,1) - 00:22:512 (4,5,1) -
2016-03-20 14:47 Riven: by the way i think this jump 01:30:055 (6,7) - is a little too aggressive with the spacing
2016-03-20 14:48 Riven: you are suddenly using 2x spacing than before
2016-03-20 14:50 A r M i N: k i see
2016-03-20 14:50 A r M i N: http://puu.sh/nNgKE/ce88cea62c.jpg 00:22:684 (5) - i did this now
2016-03-20 14:50 A r M i N: is that okay ?
2016-03-20 14:51 Riven: hmmm
2016-03-20 14:52 Riven: i don't like where 6 is
2016-03-20 14:53 A r M i N: hmm
2016-03-20 15:17 A r M i N: One last question do you think the map has a chance to get ranked ?
2016-03-20 15:18 Riven: yeah
2016-03-20 15:18 A r M i N: awesome

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-03-20T20:24:55+00:00

Riven wrote:
IRC Mod
2016-03-20 14:30 A r M i N: hey, You do testplays right ? :3 Even tho i dont think my map is too great, do you wanna try it ? ^^
2016-03-20 14:31 Riven: not really warmed up but sure
2016-03-20 14:31 A r M i N: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/896077 Reol - Netoge Haijin Sprechchor]
2016-03-20 14:31 A r M i N: The Light Extra mainly
2016-03-20 14:31 Riven: okay
2016-03-20 14:31 Riven: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/896077 Reol - Netoge Haijin Sprechchor [Light Extra]]
2016-03-20 14:33 Riven: ignore the bad aim, first map of the day xd
2016-03-20 14:34 A r M i N: thats no problem
2016-03-20 14:34 Riven: i like it
2016-03-20 14:34 A r M i N: really ?
2016-03-20 14:34 Riven: i have actually already played the hardest diff
2016-03-20 14:34 A r M i N: cool ^^
2016-03-20 14:34 Riven: 00:11:370 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - this flow is pretty weird though
2016-03-20 14:35 A r M i N: What do you reccomend to do ?
2016-03-20 14:36 Riven: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4756749
2016-03-20 14:38 A r M i N: where did u place the 2 sliders then
2016-03-20 14:38 Riven: like, usually circular and linear flow is pretty weird to play
2016-03-20 14:38 Riven: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4756761
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: you should try to avoid that
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: linear jumps actually
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: linear flow with small spacing can work
2016-03-20 14:39 A r M i N: Oh ya so try placing jumps in an sharp angle ?
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: yes
2016-03-20 14:39 A r M i N: got it
2016-03-20 14:39 Riven: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4756767
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: 00:11:884 (8,9,1) -
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: that's so hard to hit
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: and it doesn't really fit
2016-03-20 14:40 Riven: xd
2016-03-20 14:41 A r M i N: ^^
2016-03-20 14:41 Riven: you do that in a few other parts of the map too
2016-03-20 14:41 Riven: idk you might want to fix that if you want
2016-03-20 14:42 A r M i N: wait what were you trying to say with that
2016-03-20 14:42 A r M i N: isnt that like the most linear jump you can do
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: ?
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: yea
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: lol
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: im not telling you to put linear jumps
2016-03-20 14:42 Riven: fix the circular and linear jumps in your map xd
2016-03-20 14:43 Riven: i also have a replay for the hardest diff if you want to see it http://puu.sh/nNgjr/fbc23f2395.osr
2016-03-20 14:43 A r M i N: okay but why did you send me that screenshot tehn
2016-03-20 14:43 A r M i N: ill watch it later
2016-03-20 14:43 Riven: to prevent you from putting linear jumps in the future
2016-03-20 14:43 A r M i N: lol thanks
2016-03-20 14:45 A r M i N: u got any more examples for the linear jumps ?
2016-03-20 14:45 Riven: in your map?
2016-03-20 14:46 A r M i N: jup
2016-03-20 14:47 Riven: 00:21:655 (5,6,1) - 00:22:512 (4,5,1) - 00:22:512 (4,5,1) -
2016-03-20 14:47 Riven: by the way i think this jump 01:30:055 (6,7) - is a little too aggressive with the spacing
2016-03-20 14:48 Riven: you are suddenly using 2x spacing than before
2016-03-20 14:50 A r M i N: k i see
2016-03-20 14:50 A r M i N: http://puu.sh/nNgKE/ce88cea62c.jpg 00:22:684 (5) - i did this now
2016-03-20 14:50 A r M i N: is that okay ?
2016-03-20 14:51 Riven: hmmm
2016-03-20 14:52 Riven: i don't like where 6 is
2016-03-20 14:53 A r M i N: hmm
2016-03-20 15:17 A r M i N: One last question do you think the map has a chance to get ranked ?
2016-03-20 15:18 Riven: yeah
2016-03-20 15:18 A r M i N: awesome

Awesome thanks

lit120

3,261 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2016-03-24T17:05:53+00:00

hmmmm....

[General]

dude. go find someone to make an Insane diff for you or make it by yourself. you need to make a spread with a 4* on it
AiMod

[Razakizu]

01:15:484 (1,2,3) - mute the tail only. this should be ok due to end of vocal voice
01:17:198 (1,2) - ^
01:56:627 (1) - end it with soft hitsound will be better

[Rabbit's Jumping St~ *shots fired]

i think this diff needs to pay attention a lot for hitsounds
00:02:798 (1) - soft hitsound will do on this
00:10:684 (7) - missed soft additions
00:24:912 (3,6,7,3,7) - these finishes don't make any sense at all with the song. remove that
00:35:883 (3,7,3,7) - ^
00:39:827 (1) - finish
00:44:798 (6) - remove clap
00:47:027 (1) - clap
00:50:798 (1) - finish
01:01:427 (7) - tail finish
01:30:398 (1,2,3) - this is the correct one
01:34:684 (1) - finish
01:45:655 (1) - finish

[Light X]

just some minor problems about "spacing"
01:09:998 (1,2) - bad idea to make it close. i'd make it a bit far if i were you
01:17:370 (2,3) - ^
01:20:970 (1,2) - wew this one is too far. make it closer
01:42:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is way too annoying + chance on getting miss. remap this stream here
01:47:027 (1) - finish
01:56:627 (1) - end it with soft hitsound

GL!

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-03-24T18:55:56+00:00

lit120 wrote:
[Light X]
just some minor problems about "spacing"
01:09:998 (1,2) - bad idea to make it close. i'd make it a bit far if i were you done
01:17:370 (2,3) - ^ kk
01:20:970 (1,2) - wew this one is too far. make it closer alright
01:42:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is way too annoying + chance on getting miss. remap this stream here done
01:47:027 (1) - finish fixed
01:56:627 (1) - end it with soft hitsound
fixed

GL!

Thanks a lot ill be sure to tell the other 2 guys to take a look at the mod

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-03-25T12:31:34+00:00

lit120 wrote:
[Rabbit's Jumping St~ *shots fired]
i think this diff needs to pay attention a lot for hitsounds
00:02:798 (1) - soft hitsound will do on this
00:10:684 (7) - missed soft additions
00:24:912 (3,6,7,3,7) - these finishes don't make any sense at all with the song. remove that
00:35:883 (3,7,3,7) - ^
00:39:827 (1) - finish
00:44:798 (6) - remove clap
00:47:027 (1) - clap
00:50:798 (1) - finish
01:01:427 (7) - tail finish
01:30:398 (1,2,3) - this is the correct one well im matching with the vocal at this part
01:34:684 (1) - finish
01:45:655 (1) - finish

well i copy the hs from other diff cause im pretty noob at hs tho, and im lazy ><
just fix all the hs
and no more rabbit jumps plz lol
thanks for mod <3
http://puu.sh/nTnNA/4dac920382.rar

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2016-03-26T08:57:14+00:00

im l8 to mod lol

[General]
What does this bg have to do with online gaming like the song is talking about lo

[Easy]
00:09:998 (3) - It would be slightly better if you move the curve for 00:09:998 (3) - to be where the tick is, so the direction change comes with the vocal
01:36:055 (2,1,2,3) - I dunno, last time you did this flow was a bit smoother, but here it's kinda just sharp

[Normal]
00:09:655 (3) - I would suggest pointing this upward, having it toward the left makes flow weird for 3 -> 4
00:17:198 (2,1) - Ctrl j + rotate for improved flow maybe?
00:27:484 (1,2,3) - Maybe upward again, flow is really weird if you have it facing toward right because after the repeat, a leftward motion is more expected than one contradicting current flow
00:34:341 (3) - The sharp slider really doesn't feel like it fits since you've been using relatively smooth sliders
00:47:712 (4,5,1) - Tbh, not too big of a fan on the flow for here since like, 00:45:312 (1,2,3) - kinda has smooth flow, but then it kinda goes back into itself, so it feels more condensed :/ (basically reposition 00:47:027 (4,5,1) - a bit so it isn't as clumped up)
00:53:541 (1) - I found it somewhat weird that the shape caves in to express the white tick but w/e, in a related note, the note on 00:56:627 - doesn't have as much of a distinct direction change as this one, so maybe do something about it?
01:29:884 (2,3) - Flow is so sharpppp
I dunno, the diff feels like it's trying wayy to hard to use unique slider shapes that some of the flow off of it and subsequent notes feel really offfff

[Hard]
00:05:541 (1,2) - mmm stacking here doesn't really make to much sense, nor does making it a 1/2 slider tbh, cuz of the fact that the note on 00:05:884 - is much stronger and it's not clicked, it's a slider end of a slider that's stacked lo
00:08:284 (1) - I don't really feel like a repeat is justified in this instance, since the snare or w/e should generally be clicked for better feedback, having a strong beat on a repeat slider's end is kinda meh
00:08:798 (2,3,4,5) - Consider using a slider or sth in the middle of all this, since you never really have a string of straight up single taps around this section
00:09:827 (1) - zzz Only vocals that appear so far and they're on a slider end y
00:16:512 (1,2) - Poor rhythm tbh, obvious vocals for 00:17:027 (2) - are ignored for a weaker rhythm choice zzz
00:21:484 (4) - No 1/4 to go along with whatever that is in the music? You usually use a 1/4 repeat slider
00:22:512 (2) - I don't really get why you keep using 1/2 sliders on slider ticks tbh, for 00:22:855 (3) - it makes sense since the "kai" is a strong vocal but you have 00:22:684 - where you have the "se" for sekai and it's on a slider end so like zzz
00:23:712 (2) - Vocallll ignoredd on 00:23:884 -
00:38:541 (1) - Maybe consider putt note on 00:38:455 - and then spinner?
I dunno, make sure that your stacks make sense because sometimes they do make sense, other times it's just a weird stop of flow. Also check for 1/2 sliders that don't really belong n stuff or w/e, problems above are just repeating anyways so you can look for those

[ur Extra]
00:05:970 (3) - Overmapped
00:08:712 (3) - belongs to 00:08:884 -
00:14:455 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Is it like, supposed to have weird looking spacing in the middle of it?
00:23:027 (7,8,1) - Wouldn't it be slightly better if you have 8 more near 7 as opposed to the downbeat, cuz while the downbeat is fairly weak for a downbeat, it's the start of a new verse soooo
00:27:141 (1,2,3) - You could move these slightly farther away ya know lol, I dunno it could be mistaken for a 1/4 jump but that's probably just me lol
00:31:770 (6) - I dunno, it feels kinda awkward for this to be 1/1, primarily due to the held vocal being on the slider end so like, yeah :/
00:39:998 (2,3,4,5,6) - I haven't been mentioning this, but you might as well make these like 1/4 slider stream jumps, most of the time they kinda just end up feeling cluttered rather than smooth
00:41:027 (10) - I know that the slider dips to go along with the unhit beat but like, it's a downbeat, it's pretty significant, and it's ignored so zzz
00:43:770 (1) - If you do sth like this at least do that slider tick hitsounding thing you do cuz ignoring loud downbeats is zz
00:46:512 (11) - Like, it's primarily due to the reason that extras are basically known to map all that the music has to offer, having it as a curve or w/e is reasonable for a normal, not an extra imo
00:57:484 (5,6,7,8) - I think re-adjusting rhythm to go along with vocals instead, it sounds a bit smoother imo
01:30:398 (8) - d o w n b e a t
w/e my mod is just gonna get repetitive at this point so yeah, you know what to dooo zz

sorry for lackluster mod but w/e

THE EXTRA MOD IS FOR YOUR DIFFICULTY

Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Prophecy 2016-03-30T10:57:07+00:00

Accepting Taiko GDs?

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-03-30T23:00:06+00:00

Prophecy wrote:
Accepting Taiko GDs?

I'll think about it :3

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-03-31T20:28:54+00:00

@Battle: changed both, thanks!

updateee

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 83712
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StackLeniency: 0.7
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BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
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Title:Netoge Haijin Sprechchor
TitleUnicode:ネトゲ廃人シュプレヒコール
Artist:Reol
ArtistUnicode:れをる
Creator:A r M i N
Version:Squirrel's Easy
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BeatmapID:921179
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OverallDifficulty:2
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Lefia

674 posts

Joined August 2014

Lefia 2016-04-01T13:23:02+00:00

Updated

Hard

osu file format v14

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[Metadata]
Title:Netoge Haijin Sprechchor
TitleUnicode:ネトゲ廃人シュプレヒコール
Artist:Reol
ArtistUnicode:れをる
Creator:A r M i N
Version:MadaoX's Hard
Source:
Tags:Armin Hatsune Miku Niko Douga Girl SnowNiNo_ NiNo MadaoX OzzyOzrock Ozzy Yora Yoratama Razakisu Squirrel Chocola Choco
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Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Prophecy 2016-04-02T07:21:43+00:00

A r M i N wrote:
Prophecy wrote:
Accepting Taiko GDs?
I'll think about it :3

If yes, I will make a Futsuu

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,530 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2016-04-02T16:24:42+00:00

Light Extra

00:02:112 (1) - sounds really noisy at 00:03:827 - sticks out in the song
00:09:398 (7) - no beat there, there is one at 00:09:570
00:17:541 (7,1,2,3,4,5) - really awkward movement
00:17:884 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
00:21:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing is quite unreasonable, happens all of a sudden, the song did not change, yet it comes right after the part of 00:20:627 (1,2,3,4,5,6) with that kind of spacing
00:26:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - what's the purpose of the decreasing spacing?
00:32:969 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - again about the spacing. Within the kiai, why is there such a disparity between these parts
00:39:998 (2,3) - unnatural place in the music to stack objects
00:48:227 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - slider shapes could improve
01:30:398 (8) - slider ends on a strong beat
01:43:255 (5,6,7,8) - bad curve/change in direction
01:51:998 (3,4,5) - why is there a triplet here, there is nothing at 01:52:598

The spacing makes it quite messy

NCs are inconsistent everywhere

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-04-03T13:47:52+00:00

neonat wrote:
Light Extra

00:02:112 (1) - sounds really noisy at 00:03:827 - sticks out in the song I set the Audio to 20% at the beginning
00:09:398 (7) - no beat there, there is one at 00:09:570 fixed
00:17:541 (7,1,2,3,4,5) - really awkward movement
00:17:884 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
00:21:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing is quite unreasonable, happens all of a sudden, the song did not change, yet it comes right after the part of 00:20:627 (1,2,3,4,5,6) with that kind of spacing I made the Star a Little smaller
00:26:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - what's the purpose of the decreasing spacing? ehmm xD idk fixed (I want the stream to kinda blanket the triple)
00:32:969 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - again about the spacing. Within the kiai, why is there such a disparity between these parts I used DS now
00:39:998 (2,3) - unnatural place in the music to stack objects
00:48:227 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - slider shapes could improve what slidershape Thats a stream in my eyes
01:30:398 (8) - slider ends on a strong beat fixed
01:43:255 (5,6,7,8) - bad curve/change in direction fixed.. i think
01:51:998 (3,4,5) - why is there a triplet here, there is nothing at 01:52:598 lol fixed

The spacing makes it quite messy

NCs are inconsistent everywhere I made the NC on The Big White tick now

Thanks a lot

Yoratama

424 posts

Joined February 2016

Yoratama 2016-04-07T01:27:00+00:00

Hi, I have updating my diff. increased a note, and decreased the SV.

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Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Prophecy 2016-04-08T15:17:12+00:00

yoooooo, My Futsuu here:

[Prophecy's Futsoo]

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A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-04-08T19:43:19+00:00

Prophecy wrote:

yoooooo, My Futsuu here:

[Prophecy's Futsoo]

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Awesome! Added

[R]

1,050 posts

Joined November 2013

[R] 2016-04-10T21:06:15+00:00

don't worry dude :^|

[Futsuu]
i guess SV change in low diff not necessary

00:38:798 - delete, sound stopped here
00:44:627 - since you following the drum, move red tick backward
00:49:427 - maybe spinner more reasonable because no stream sound and calm
01:06:055 - delete? i duno but you not adding note in 01:17:027 -
01:06:741 - delete this refer to 01:03:998 -
01:14:970 - delete
01:22:341 - spinner ?

why not continue mapping until here 01:56:455 - ?

[Muzukashii]
avoid SV change, put in to normal
00:14:627 - density to high, guess you can delete 00:14:970 - and 00:15:998 - it will match with other sound too
00:18:055 - delete, to long pattern
00:19:941 - delete
00:22:170 - delete
00:23:712 - delete
00:26:284 - delete this or 00:25:598 -
00:38:798 - delete this, instead you can do a triplet here 00:39:141 -
00:47:541 (8,9,10) - ddk or kdk than like that

00:49:427 - can be spinner, see Futsuu
00:54:741 - delete ?
01:02:627 - delete ?
01:22:341 - spinner

01:56:455 - guess add note better than spinner

[Oni]
01:06:055 - consider change to D ,enjoying ddk d k pattern and meet k k k make akward

o/

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-04-10T21:37:23+00:00

[R] wrote:
don't worry dude :^|

[Futsuu]
i guess SV change in low diff not necessary

00:38:798 - delete, sound stopped here
00:44:627 - since you following the drum, move red tick backward
00:49:427 - maybe spinner more reasonable because no stream sound and calm
01:06:055 - delete? i duno but you not adding note in 01:17:027 -
01:06:741 - delete this refer to 01:03:998 -
01:14:970 - delete
01:22:341 - spinner ?

why not continue mapping until here 01:56:455 - ?

[Muzukashii]
avoid SV change, put in to normal
00:14:627 - density to high, guess you can delete 00:14:970 - and 00:15:998 - it will match with other sound too
00:18:055 - delete, to long pattern
00:19:941 - delete
00:22:170 - delete
00:23:712 - delete
00:26:284 - delete this or 00:25:598 -
00:38:798 - delete this, instead you can do a triplet here 00:39:141 -
00:47:541 (8,9,10) - ddk or kdk than like that

00:49:427 - can be spinner, see Futsuu
00:54:741 - delete ?
01:02:627 - delete ?
01:22:341 - spinner

01:56:455 - guess add note better than spinner

[Oni]
01:06:055 - consider change to D ,enjoying ddk d k pattern and meet k k k make akward

o/

Awesome thanks a lot Ill contact the mappers to reply

OzzyOzrock

5,185 posts

Joined August 2010

OzzyOzrock 2016-04-10T21:54:45+00:00

No change, ty!

Yoratama

424 posts

Joined February 2016

Yoratama 2016-04-10T22:53:06+00:00

[R] wrote:
don't worry dude :^|

[Muzukashii]
avoid SV change, put in to norma Nope, i think it's fine in muzu many mapper do this tool
00:14:627 - density to high, guess you can delete 00:14:970 - and 00:15:998 - it will match with other sound too Only deleted the first note.
00:18:055 - delete, to long pattern Fixed
00:19:941 - delete Fixed
00:22:170 - delete Nope
00:23:712 - delete Nope, like that pattern
00:26:284 - delete this or 00:25:598 - Deleted
00:38:798 - delete this, instead you can do a triplet here 00:39:141 - Nope, not fit with the music imo
00:47:541 (8,9,10) - ddk or kdk than like that Fixed

00:49:427 - can be spinner, see Futsuu Fixed
00:54:741 - delete ? Fixed
01:02:627 - delete ? Fixed
01:22:341 - spinner Fixed

01:56:455 - guess add note better than spinner Nope, spinner fit the music

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Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Prophecy 2016-04-12T12:23:18+00:00

[R] wrote:
don't worry dude :^|

[Futsuu]

00:49:427 - maybe spinner more reasonable because no stream sound and calm I don't like spinner imo
01:06:055 - delete? i duno but you not adding note in 01:17:027 - same as above :3
01:06:741 - delete this refer to 01:03:998 - added a d at 01:03:998 instead.
01:22:341 - spinner ?

why not continue mapping until here 01:56:455 - I will consider about this

o/

Thx for mod!, not mention = fixed :3

[Prophecy's dem Futsoo]

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256,192,105655,12,0,107027,0:0:0:0:

ayomikasa

180 posts

Joined August 2014

ayomikasa 2016-04-16T07:07:36+00:00

Hi,NM from me!
10 days passed,eh? sorry

Volt's Kantan

1. 00:43:255 (45) - d

Prophecy's Futsuu

I can't find anything.Gratz

Yora's Muzukashii

1. 00:26:798 (12) - k
2. 01:33:998 (12) - same as above

Ozzy's Oni

1. 00:05:027 (7,8,9,10) - maybe you want to delete this 1/6? because this is oni i said :'|
2. 01:23:198 (46,47,48,49) - same as above

Ok,Good Luck
Btw good song! star for you

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-04-16T09:13:26+00:00

Hey thanks for the mod

Ill be sure to tell the other guys to reply

Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Prophecy 2016-04-16T09:31:02+00:00

A r M i N wrote:
Hey thanks for the mod Ill be sure to tell the other guys to reply

ww, nothing to fix :> check again~~

Yoratama

424 posts

Joined February 2016

Yoratama 2016-04-16T09:35:54+00:00

Lol that 2 things is currently Kat.
No Change, thanks! :3

Makeli

932 posts

Joined October 2013

Makeli 2016-04-16T12:57:03+00:00

hi!

ugh
ugh2

razakisu
I. AR 9.6 seems like hella lot for a 175BPM song. Imo 9.4 should be enough for this but this is 100% your choice
II. 00:12:570 - this is also 100% missing a note
III. 00:19:770 (4,5,6) - Nice stacks
IV. 00:25:427 (1) - I kinda understand this shrp turn in the stream but 00:25:770 (5) - this is really random since the song does nothing to support this kind of turns
V. 00:41:370 (5) - This is also random since now you're giving emphasis to a random 1/4 sound that has been going on the whole song. 00:41:198 (3) - Has a kick and imo you should emphasize that somehow. If you want to do that ofc... Also I don't understand why you would want to hitsound (5) with a clap when it has no kick lol
VI. 01:15:484 (1) - Scorev2
VII. 01:52:512 (1) - You previously used 1/2 silders to emphasize the piano sounds but now just circles? Seems pretty inconsistent to me

cool stuff

NiNo
I. AR could be lowered here too imo but again 100% your choice
II. 00:04:169 (1) - this return slider is kinda ehh imo since you're skipping a triple with it and you're ending it on a pretty important beat
III. Not 100% sure but I think that this should end at the blue tick
IV. 00:06:741 (1) - Since you're mapping the melody wouldn't it make sense to make this a 3/4 slider and then add a note at the red tick?
V. 00:08:798 (2) - ^ Kinda same thing
VI. 00:14:112 (5) - So you give emphasis to kicks and snares here and 00:14:455 (1) - here but then you don't give emphasis to 00:14:798 (5) - ?? This happens a lot
VII. 00:15:998 (6) - This should not have a clap at the red tick. 00:16:341 (8) - this shouldn't either
VIII. 00:41:798 - there should be a note here too
IX. 00:49:427 (1) - Ending this on a strong beat is kinda ehh imo
X. 00:49:941 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This rythm is also kinda ehh and doesn't really seem to fit the song
XI. 01:01:427 (7) - This is really not cool since that sliderend is a really strong beat
XII. 01:06:398 (3) - Since you're mapping the vocals you should not stack this under (1) and (2) since the vocals are doing different stuff here

Hmm... I didn't really like this diff and imo this needs more work. Mapping rythms like 01:00:913 (4,5,6,7) - like the way you mapped them seems really random to me. You also skip a lot of drums hits just to map vocals (I hate almost all kinds of vocal mapping) when the drums are really cool in this song and would make cool patterns and interesting rythms to play. Especially places like 01:16:855 - hurt me the most. Also literally everyone else mapped that ending. This is not about laziness or this diff being a GD. Imo sets should follow at least some consistency and this song being this short in my opinion you should map it. Also literally every lower difficulty also mapped the end.

lightextra
I. 00:07:427 (4,5,6) - Imo it's kinda annyoing to play triples when they overlap with the kickslider's sliderend
II. 00:14:112 (5) - You give emphasis here and 00:14:455 (1) - here but then 00:14:798 (5) - gets no emphasis???
III. 00:20:798 (2) - Kinda random rythm imo since you end this on a snare
IV. 00:41:027 (10,1) - Ending that slider on that red tick would make this better. You could place a circle at the sliderend than then get the NC on the white tick. Usually players expect that the NC is on the white or the red tick. And your NC now emphasizes the wrong things
V. 00:42:227 (6) - Slider would work fine here cause of the hold sound
VI. 00:43:770 (1,2,3,4) - It really hurts me to see (hear) you skip all these cool beats
VII. 00:49:941 (4,5,6) - The rythm here is A LOT different and mapping it the same as 00:49:427 (1,2,3) - is really random
VIII. 00:50:455 (7) - That sliderend is a really strong beat. Imo it should be clickable

I'm gonna stop my mod here on this diff since I'd be just pointing out the same things over and over again. Imo this diff needs a lot more work with stuff like rythm, overall rythm consistency and visuals. Skipping kicks and snares just to follow the vocals is one of the things that trigger me the most.

I'm gonna end my mod here cause I have already modded a map of this song and I'm getting sick of it.

A r M i N

1,299 posts

Joined October 2014

Topic Starter

A r M i N 2016-04-16T13:21:11+00:00

Maakkeli wrote:
hi!

ugh
ugh2

lightextra
I. 00:07:427 (4,5,6) - Imo it's kinda annyoing to play triples when they overlap with the kickslider's sliderend
II. 00:14:112 (5) - You give emphasis here and 00:14:455 (1) - here but then 00:14:798 (5) - gets no emphasis???
III. 00:20:798 (2) - Kinda random rythm imo since you end this on a snare
IV. 00:41:027 (10,1) - Ending that slider on that red tick would make this better. You could place a circle at the sliderend than then get the NC on the white tick. Usually players expect that the NC is on the white or the red tick. And your NC now emphasizes the wrong things
V. 00:42:227 (6) - Slider would work fine here cause of the hold sound fixed
VI. 00:43:770 (1,2,3,4) - It really hurts me to see (hear) you skip all these cool beats fixed
VII. 00:49:941 (4,5,6) - The rythm here is A LOT different and mapping it the same as 00:49:427 (1,2,3) - is really random lol you are right fixed
VIII. 00:50:455 (7) - That sliderend is a really strong beat. Imo it should be clickable

I'm gonna stop my mod here on this diff since I'd be just pointing out the same things over and over again. Imo this diff needs a lot more work with stuff like rythm, overall rythm consistency and visuals. Skipping kicks and snares just to follow the vocals is one of the things that trigger me the most.

I'm gonna end my mod here cause I have already modded a map of this song and I'm getting sick of it.

Hey dude thanks for the mod

I am very happy I make sure to contact the other mappers to reply

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2016-04-16T16:19:22+00:00

Hi, here for M4M. Alright, I can't do the last one, so I'll stop here.

Normal

00:05:541 (1,2) – kind of picky, but this blanket could be improved. The top part is a little closer than the middle part: http://puu.sh/okDTA/945ebf8aff.jpg . If you delete the red node and make it a white node instead, it will come out more like a circle and be better

00:08:284 (1,2,3) – Since this is both unstructured and not blanketed, it looks a bit off. If you don't want to blanket, try including some triangle structure like: http://puu.sh/okEk6/77f826e7d0.jpg

00:17:884 (1,3) – Might be nice if these two sliders had the same curvature

00:30:227 (1,2) – Roll with me for a bit. Rotate these two by 26 degrees clockwise. Notice that they aren't symmetrical with each other. If you make (2) a flipped copy of (1) though and rotate it back 26 degrees, you end up with a slightly nicer pattern imo because of the symmetry: http://puu.sh/okEE6/5e708efc26.jpg

00:30:227 (1,4) – This overlap is not ideal
01:14:455 (3,2) - ^
01:38:455 (4,1) - ^
01:47:370 (3,5) - ^
01:50:455 (2,3,4,1) - ^, make these all 120 degree copy pastes of each other that blanket each other and it will be nice.

00:31:941 (4) – What's with all the nodes? Just use one and the slider shape the editor generates will be nice.

01:00:741 (3,5) – This blanket would be nicer if (3) were less curvy

01:16:170 (2,4) – Make this DS the same as the DS between 01:16:855 (3,4) -

Hard

00:08:798 (3) – rotate this by 4 degrees counterclockwise by selection center for a better blanket

00:16:512 (1,4) – blanket these?

00:17:712 (6,2) – auto-stack throws off the blanket a bit, consider doing +4x, +4y on this to offset that.

00:52:170 (1,3) – overlap is not ideal
00:59:712 (3,2) -
01:05:541 (4,2) -
01:54:912 (5,2) -

01:34:684 (1,2,3) – If you get this to have more of a triangle structure, you can set it up so you get the blanket on the head of (1) on 01:35:712 (4,1) - and you can ignore the blanket on the tail of (4)

01:49:255 (3,5,1) – You can make this symmetrical. Ask me in game how if you need to

Chocky

The difficulty name needs to include a level of difficulty like “Chocky's Insane”

00:05:884 (2,3,4) – The DS is a little small here, try ging with a DS of .50x and maybe have a bigger angle on the end of (2,3,4). Yeah see, 00:07:855 (6) – is much better

00:06:741 (1) – Make the DS here 1.00x, your current spacing feels too small and doesn't express this part enough
00:17:370 (4) – Same type of thing, move this to ~350, 127 so the next is ~1.00x

00:22:684 (1) – what happens to the clap hitsound pattern after this?
00:30:570 (3) – random clap

00:07:598 (5,2) – stack something like this?

00:14:798 (10) – I don't know how I feel about this being a reverse slider since making 00:15:141 – not clickable feels odd, but it might also be too intense if you put a circle there. Get more opinions on this.

00:23:884 (3,6) – Make the spacing between these .90x for a more consistent visual

00:39:484 (4,1) – I don't like this spacing because it feels like (1) starts at 00:39:655 - . Make consistent DS and I think the pattern will be better
01:04:341 (7,1) - ^ similar

00:33:998 (6,7,8) – I think you could make a nicer flow by not making it so linear and maybe change the spacing (and working that triangular structure): http://puu.sh/okDro/a2e807fe14.jpg

00:44:970 (5,2) – overlap is not ideal
01:09:998 (1,2) - ^ especially since this the DS between these isn't consistent with 01:09:998 (1,1) – and 01:10:684 (1,2) - . I think if you make the overlaps all the same DS, it will work out better.
01:13:255 (4,5,6) - ^
01:20:455 (8,1) - ^
01:25:598 (3,6) - ^
01:27:998 (5,6) - ^
01:38:798 (1,3) - ^
01:48:912 (3,6) - ^
01:49:427 (6,2) - ^

01:03:141 (1,2,3) – These aren't linear (one of the problems with grid snap), and there's an easy way to make them linear. Copy paste (1,3) as a temporary object, then do ctrl shift S on it by .5. Then stack that on (1) and the position of (2) should become obvious

01:53:712 (4,1) – The flow is a little jerky and it's not blanketed nicely. Try going with a smoother flow

Light Extra

So I went pretty deep in this mod, so I'm gonna tell you what guinea told me when he made a similar mod for me, some of which applies and some doesn't:

GuineaQ wrote:
Disclaimer

I don't really expect you to apply everything in this mod. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't apply anything in this mod in fact. Since I'll play the devil and go ham on every pattern I see that is questionable either in aesthetics, flow or in general design level. What I want you to do is, take this mod, contemplate on it, filter things that doesn't really suit your taste, identify the general idea I'm trying introduce you to here, and see if you can use it to improve what you already have. Yes, I'm trying to enforce/integrate my own style/way of approach here But that's what modding is for, isn't it? It's not meant to be just a way to fill up Star Priority right? >w>, but I'm only doing this because I think you are one of the few mappers who can receive this kind modding and actually takes something/benefit from it. And not go "IT'S STYLE" for points I make which is completely irrelevant to 'style'

00:06:227 (5,6) – The angle between these two groups is a little too big and makes the flow feel violent. Try doing something smoother.

00:20:284 (9,1) – I think moving (1) so the flow is smoother sets up the next bit a little better. Try putting (1) where (2) is and then move (2).

00:20:798 (2) – Make the spacing into this be a little bigger. 1.2x feels a little weak, try 1.4x or 1.5x

00:21:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – I think the second half of the vocals is stronger and so 00:21:998 (1,2,3,4) – should be smaller spaced and there should be a jump into (5) with the rest of the notes gradually reducing in spacing, but that's just me, and I'm fine if you have a different idea about it. What I don't like is that in similar places like 01:29:198 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , you don't stick to the same idea you have. Try making these more consistent

00:29:370 (3,4,5) – This is overlapping the HUD on smaller screen sizes, so try to move it away from the corner. Also, it's easy to tell you were having real room constraints, so giving yourself more room would lead to a nicer pattern imo

00:30:055 (1,1) – You've already taken a few rests with the long sliders at 00:27:484 (1) – and 00:29:370 (3) - , so I think you should think about re-engaging the player in a stronger rhythm

00:31:770 (2,3,4) – I want to pick on this pattern somehow. Idk, I'll let you think about it.

00:33:655 (1) – This downbeat is kind of a strong note, so I think it should get more of the focus in terms of spaing, though I guess this is just a similar suggestion to 00:21:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) –

00:34:512 (2,3) – This sounds like it's going with the vocals since you miss the note at 00:34:684 – in the drums. I think two ½ sliders works better then.

00:35:370 (6,7,1,2) – The angle that this makes is a little too strong imo. A flow like this gets your directional change at (1) in without forcing it so much: http://puu.sh/okx80/3a5554f9b3.jpg . Try setting up the pattern a little differently at 00:34:512 (2,3) – and before if you need to.

00:41:027 (10) – The second part of this slider doesn't look great because the editor doesn't use auto-circle type sliders after red points. Try making a more circular slider and use it to trace out the second part of this slider, which means you might need to add another white node to this slider

00:51:827 (8,1) – This flow is kind of awkward

00:55:084 (1) – You're going with the vocals since you miss the note at 00:55:255 – right? If that's the case, you should really increase the spacing into this note because the vocals take a strong note here. Without the aforementioned note and the with this low spacing, the pattern feels a little weak.

00:58:684 (7) – Might be nicer as a ½ slider

00:59:712 (6,1) – overlap is not ideal

01:01:255 (5,1) – stack the end of (1) on (5) for a nicer visual

01:03:141 (1) - Stacking this on (4) might look nicer

01:03:655 (3,4,5) – I don't like this visually be the angle between (3,4) doesn't seem to relate to anything. If you take the tangent line at the end of (3) and flip it, I think you get a nicer angle: http://puu.sh/oktIk/1b8147b9fd.jpg
(There's a lot of times where I feel similarly like 01:31:084 (4,5,6) - . See if you can find smoother flows/visuals to use)

01:04:855 (1,2,3) – (After playing this more, I kind of like your flow now, but I'll still make my suggestion) I know the robot isn't as stacatto here, but I think you should still have a stronger relation to the 01:06:055 (2) – type notes. Try using a stacked rotation like: http://puu.sh/oksnv/4dbf575ac2.jpg (It also makes the flow into (3) nicer imo.)

01:05:541 (3,4,1,2) – Try having more of the higher spacing be into (2) and not so much into (4) since (2) is the stronger note

01:06:741 (5) – Consider ctrl G on this and on 01:06:912 (6) - http://puu.sh/oks5P/06a7c54c9c.jpg

01:11:370 (1) – This is still a strong note like 01:10:341 (3) – since there is the same drum sound here. Try a bigger spacing into this.

01:11:712 (3,7) – stack these?

01:14:112 (1,2) – Since you raise the intensity at 01:09:998 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - , the player kind of expects more out of this next section. That makes these sliders feel a little too weak. Try ½ slider → circle like: http://puu.sh/oku0E/70ac6f7df9.jpg
01:20:970 (1,2) – Similarly, add more rhythm to these since this feels underwhelming (first time I'm recommending an extended slider): http://puu.sh/okujz/6cbbdb2191.jpg (To be clear, I'm not against the vocals. I like that you want to emphasize them, but in doing so you've created an underwhelming pattern that slows down the map too much when you really should be building it up more. That's why expanding your perspective to include drums could result in nicer gameplay. I do like rest moments though, and I think the long slider at 01:20:112 (2) – does that nicely.)

01:26:284 (1) – In your attempt to emphasize the vocals, you make them feel weaker since your earlier patterns like 01:24:398 (1,2,3,4,5) – are much more intense. Also, the long slider at 01:25:598 (1) – gives the player enough rest that now they want to go back into the more stronger rhythms. So I think you try making 01:26:284 (1,1) – into ½ sliders instead and make 01:27:827 (1) – two circles instead

01:37:255 (1,1) – this overlap is not ideal

01:46:341 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) – You mentioned that you wanted suggestions about visuals. I think one thing that could help here and elsewhere is for you to be more concerned about the angles between certain notes. Since these are three objects that make a kind of circle, it might be nice for these to be 120 degree copy pastes of each other that form a triangle like: http://puu.sh/okw2l/bb8c617ebd.jpg . Maybe not this, but I think that gives you the idea about adding a higher level of structure in the pattern.

01:50:284 (4,5) – I don't think this is bad and I'm fine with you keeping it this way, but it looks like the standard convention would be to blanket these.

Maakeli wrote:
Skipping kicks and snares just to follow the vocals is one of the things that trigger me the most.

I'll offer a different perspective. While sometimes you emphasize the vocals in a way that creates odd gameplay which is mentioned above, using the vocals in your rhythm is something I'd like to actually see more of in ranked maps. So as long as you make good rhythms and keep in mind the target audience, it's okay for some people to hate your rhythm choices if those choices make your target audience more satisfied with your map since people like different things. That doesn't excuse rhythms that create poor gameplay, but I do think the vocals are a good part of the song to map.

Nino's Extra

Go play this map and when you're done come back and read this. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/544136 What did you think of it? What I like about this map is that even though it has crazy jumps, the jumps don't feel forced or spammed, and a lot of the subtle changes in the songs are reflected in the spacing. One of the reasons I feel this way is because of the small spacing galv adds at places like 01:33:488 (7,8) - or 01:44:005 (4,5,6) - . Sometimes he rests too hard like at 01:40:212 (5) - , but I think these kinds of spacings add a lot to the map. I think I tried pushing this on you before, so I'm okay with you still rejecting this and I'll stop here, I just thought I'd try one more time.

Good luck!

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