I think it's better leave strager out because I don't think other users (like me) can wait that long to start play.Two wrote:
peppy said he'd unban strager after a week, but I don't know if he meant a week after his post (the 5th?) or a week after his ban
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if you can't wait that long, then why did you sign up for a game that has 2 week-days...
It's because I would rather wait when I already started then wait for starting. Strange thing I must say.
Topic Starter
Morning dawns on the first day, as a small school of aquatic critters gathers together around the corpse of a small guppy. Appalled, they swim away quickly, but it is evidence that the predators they fear have once again caught up to them. They must hurry to eliminate them before the entire school is devoured!
It is Day 1. With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch someone. Day 1 ends when a majority is reached, or on August 22 if no majority is reached. I will post vote counts as close to the top of pages as I can.
It is Day 1. With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch someone. Day 1 ends when a majority is reached, or on August 22 if no majority is reached. I will post vote counts as close to the top of pages as I can.
Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming...
Hello.
Name's Bruce.
Name's Bruce.
Vote: WojjanWojjan wrote:
I'm never a civvie~
Something tells me we won't get anywhere for a few days >_>
blarhghgh
Vote Wojjan because I want some action.
let the drama begin kids
(pm me if you wanna know something interesting)
Vote Wojjan because I want some action.
let the drama begin kids
(pm me if you wanna know something interesting)
mod: What are the rules about talking outside of the thread?
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
out-of-thread discussion is allowed, I'll post the typical rules and such when the game is full.
Topic Starter
This vote does not count because it is not in bold. If you want your votes to count, you MUST write them in bold.Nakata Yuji wrote:
Vote Wojjan because I want some action.
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
This vote does not count because it is not in bold. If you want your votes to count, you MUST write them in bold.Nakata Yuji wrote:
Vote Wojjan because I want some action.
I wasn't actually voting for her, but telling others to. lol, but I didn't know that anyways, since I'm stupid. Thanks :O
Random Vote: 0_o
I don't like the name Bruce.
I don't like the name Bruce.
dat sharkrust45 wrote:
Random Vote: 0_o
I don't like the name Bruce.
Vote: 0_o
Bruce sucks.
Bruce sucks.
Vote Two because I don't trust him 
Oh look. The first post still hasn't been updated.
Hi guys let's have some-
[votes on me]
vote:matthew for being bad at this game.
[votes on me]
vote:matthew for being bad at this game.
*blows bubble at wojjan*
I'm voting for wojjan for having an avatar that reminds me of mogsworth
vote:wojjan
go with da flow i guess...like wwg5
go with da flow i guess...like wwg5
No capitalisation? Get out
Unvote
Vote: matthewtck
Unvote
Vote: matthewtck
Once again matthew is being a shit wolf
Topic Starter
Votecount the First
matthewtck (2) - Wojjan, Mashley
pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (2) - rust45, meronmyon
DiamondCrash (0)
Mashley (0)
NoHitter (0)
Oyashiro Beatrice (0)
meronmyon (0)
Nakata Yuji (0)
Two (0)
Wojjan (2) - DiamondCrash, Two
rust45 (0)
Not Voting (7) - matthewtck, pieguy1372, strager, 0_o, NoHitter, Oyashiro Beatrice, Nakata Yuji
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch...
matthewtck (2) - Wojjan, Mashley
pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (2) - rust45, meronmyon
DiamondCrash (0)
Mashley (0)
NoHitter (0)
Oyashiro Beatrice (0)
meronmyon (0)
Nakata Yuji (0)
Two (0)
Wojjan (2) - DiamondCrash, Two
rust45 (0)
Not Voting (7) - matthewtck, pieguy1372, strager, 0_o, NoHitter, Oyashiro Beatrice, Nakata Yuji
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch...
Vote: mashley
dat fool
dat fool
I'm not a fool 
tricky youMashley wrote:
I'm not a fool
!bandwagon
Vote: Wojjan
Vote: Wojjan
How does not lynching anyone benefit the town, again? If you didn't notice, in the last werewolf game half of the wolves had revealing votes day 1. If no one is lynched, we have less information to work with later, on top of the fact that if no one is lynched then wolves get a free kill.Wojjan wrote:
Can't we just nolynch today? We have nothing to go on
Oh right roles are revealed in this game.
Carry on, lose your anemone.
Carry on, lose your anemone.
That's scum talk brothaWojjan wrote:
Can't we just nolynch today? We have nothing to go on
she wants the killWojjan wrote:
Can't we just nolynch today? We have nothing to go on
unvote
vote:Wojjan
gogogoogog
i just want the day to end, actuallyWojjan wrote:
Could you maybe, you know, read my other post?
also i would consider that a facade
The fact that Nakata Yuji wanted day to end, and basically jumped on the bandwagon to lynch Wojjan seems suspicious, even after Wojjan withdrew her previous statement.Nakata Yuji wrote:
i just want the day to end, actually
also i would consider that a facade
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Yeah, this is very suspicious. Nataka seems anxious to get the day over with and have someone out. Here's a PM I recieved from her:
Unvote, Vote Nataka Yuji
change your vote to wojjan or 0_o and I'll change mine to what you doNow, if we assume that Nataka is scum, then that would make Wojjan and 0_o innocent, wouldn't it?
Unvote, Vote Nataka Yuji
Is that all of what was in that message?
damn you got me.
vote for me guys.
vote for me guys.
Yep
Edit: Some stupid rule
Edit: Some stupid rule
Jester, anyone?
notice how you can't see what he sent.
also, i don't really care if i get voted out. i just want to spectate, at most.
let the day end.
vote me out, and that's seriously just a free kill.
but again, i don't care.
also, i don't really care if i get voted out. i just want to spectate, at most.
let the day end.
vote me out, and that's seriously just a free kill.
but again, i don't care.
Topic Starter
Just a note, screenshots of private communications are not allowed because they cannot be easily modified. Paraphrasing or direct quoting is allowed. You have been warned.
What exactly are you suggesting? >_<Nakata Yuji wrote:
notice how you can't see what he sent.
nothing, good sir.Mashley wrote:
What exactly are you suggesting? >_<Nakata Yuji wrote:
notice how you can't see what he sent.
confidentiality was implied, and you kind of broke that.
then you go ahead and protect yourself further.
that's a bit suspicious to me.
so why exactly haven't you posted what you said that he didn't show
Want to explain how telling people about a suspicious PM you sent me is suspicious? Or are you just accusing me for the hell of it? And didn't you just admit to being scum a few posts ago? >_<
IV5. Do not insult other players personally.Mashley wrote:
Want to explain how telling people about a suspicious PM you sent me is suspicious? Or are you just accusing me for the hell of it? And didn't you just admit to being scum a few posts ago? >_<
tread carefully.
and it's exactly as you say it is. think about it.
Topic Starter
Votecount the Second
matthewtck (1) - Wojjan,
pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (2) - rust45, meronmyon
DiamondCrash (0)
Mashley (0)
NoHitter (0)
Oyashiro Beatrice (0)
meronmyon (0)
Nakata Yuji (3) - Two, NoHitter, Mashley
Two (0)
Wojjan (3) - DiamondCrash, Nakata Yuji, Oyashiro Beatrice
rust45 (0)
Not Voting (4) - matthewtck, pieguy1372, strager, 0_o
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch...
matthewtck (1) - Wojjan,
pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (2) - rust45, meronmyon
DiamondCrash (0)
Mashley (0)
NoHitter (0)
Oyashiro Beatrice (0)
meronmyon (0)
Nakata Yuji (3) - Two, NoHitter, Mashley
Two (0)
Wojjan (3) - DiamondCrash, Nakata Yuji, Oyashiro Beatrice
rust45 (0)
Not Voting (4) - matthewtck, pieguy1372, strager, 0_o
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch...
Would you mind only showing the people who have votes on them? It's a little cumbersome to have to go through all those zeroes.
he wasn't insulting youNakata Yuji wrote:
IV5. Do not insult other players personally.
tread carefully.
you also completely ignored me
I wrote:
so why exactly haven't you posted what you said that he didn't show
just saw this now...Two wrote:
so why exactly haven't you posted what you said that he didn't show
can't take screenshots..
and likely that anything i say will be rejected by mash.
i'll leave it up to your imagination. look at what i said, then think of something that he would say that would make me say what i said after.
also, i never called myself scum.
scum is used to refer to the mafia, wolves, or what have you
it's not derogatory if that's what you interpreted it as
also that is a really pathetic excuse
it's not derogatory if that's what you interpreted it as
also that is a really pathetic excuse
oh.Two wrote:
scum is used to refer to the mafia, wolves, or what have you
it's not derogatory if that's what you interpreted it as
*is noob at this*
teehee
It'll be rejected unless you say the truth, for obvious reasons. Here's the message I sent:
Nah, the guy I voted seems more likely to be scum than them, and even if he isn't he still a sucky player.
think so...?Two wrote:
also that is a really pathetic excuse
interesting to see sherlock at work
Unvote!
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Vote: Nakata Yuji
might as well lynch me now
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Nataka: why did you want to vote for me? I only had one post at a time, and it was a Finding Nemo quote.
acting as strager's proxy until he is unbanned:
12:58 <@stragerLN> Wow
12:58 <@stragerLN> People are REALLY sheeping into nakata
12:59 <@stragerLN> he/she is CLEARLY a joker. He/she has been setting it up from the start.
12:59 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496602#p496602
12:59 <@stragerLN> last comment.
13:00 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496727#p496727
13:00 <@stragerLN> Blatantly lying, and telling people to vote for someone without voting for them herself?
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497875#p497875
13:01 <@stragerLN> I dunno what to think of this. Probably a newb mistake, though. I don't find it that suspicious, contrary
to some others.
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497879#p497879
13:01 <@stragerLN> == scummy
13:01 <@stragerLN> (as has been pointed out)
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498479#p498479
13:01 <@stragerLN> Gave up "playfully"; Joker tell
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498489#p498489
13:02 <@stragerLN> More joker or vanilla tells
13:02 <@stragerLN> (But we all have special roles so there's no real vanilla ... though maybe I'm wrong)
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498518#p498518
13:03 <@stragerLN> She only brought this up LATER, which means what she said in this post wasn't the reason she posted what she
did post in her previous post.
13:03 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498587#p498587
13:04 <@stragerLN> Avoiding the question; "you already know"; scummy behaviour
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498605#p498605
13:04 <@stragerLN> same
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498612#p498612
13:04 <@stragerLN> She complained about personal insults, and here she is, being insulting
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498618#p498618
13:04 <@stragerLN> More vanilla/joker
oh, it's because i wanted the day to end. tbh you had 2 votes, same as wojjan, which is why0_o wrote:
Nataka: why did you want to vote for me? I only had one post at a time, and it was a Finding Nemo quote.
edit: also bruce is a shark
!Cuddlebun wrote:
acting as strager's proxy until he is unbanned:12:58 <@stragerLN> Wow
12:58 <@stragerLN> People are REALLY sheeping into nakata
12:59 <@stragerLN> he/she is CLEARLY a joker. He/she has been setting it up from the start.
12:59 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496602#p496602
12:59 <@stragerLN> last comment.
13:00 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496727#p496727
13:00 <@stragerLN> Blatantly lying, and telling people to vote for someone without voting for them herself?
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497875#p497875
13:01 <@stragerLN> I dunno what to think of this. Probably a newb mistake, though. I don't find it that suspicious, contrary
to some others.
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497879#p497879
13:01 <@stragerLN> == scummy
13:01 <@stragerLN> (as has been pointed out)
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498479#p498479
13:01 <@stragerLN> Gave up "playfully"; Joker tell
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498489#p498489
13:02 <@stragerLN> More joker or vanilla tells
13:02 <@stragerLN> (But we all have special roles so there's no real vanilla ... though maybe I'm wrong)
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498518#p498518
13:03 <@stragerLN> She only brought this up LATER, which means what she said in this post wasn't the reason she posted what she
did post in her previous post.
13:03 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498587#p498587
13:04 <@stragerLN> Avoiding the question; "you already know"; scummy behaviour
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498605#p498605
13:04 <@stragerLN> same
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498612#p498612
13:04 <@stragerLN> She complained about personal insults, and here she is, being insulting
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498618#p498618
13:04 <@stragerLN> More vanilla/joker
i surmise something like a trollTwo wrote:
what the hell is a joker
A joker wins when he is lynched. They lose if they are alive when the game ends, or if they are night killed.
in my case, i kind of want to play, but i don't mind if i get lynched.0_o wrote:
A joker wins when he is lynched, loses if he is NK'd/alive when the game ends.
if anyone wanted to know.
What does "the joker wins when he is lynched" mean? It's like a third faction (town/mafia/joker)? If so that is really dumb.
i think it's probably self satisfaction.Two wrote:
What does "the joker wins when he is lynched" mean? It's like a third faction (town/mafia/joker)? If so that is really dumb.
[13:39] <stragerLN> Mention that the game still continues if the Joker wins or loses
[13:39] <stragerLN> also
[13:39] <stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498675#p498675
[13:39] <stragerLN> Didn't deny it
[13:39] <stragerLN> +1 for being a joker
Yeah, it's a third party. Unvote.Two wrote:
What does "the joker wins when he is lynched" mean? It's like a third faction (town/mafia/joker)? If so that is really dumb.
*fist pump*
also, how would i be a joker if i didn't even know what one was in the first place...?
hmmmmmmm
also, how would i be a joker if i didn't even know what one was in the first place...?
hmmmmmmm
You lied.
is that so...DiamondCrash wrote:
You lied.
never would have thought of that
Unvote
I have no reason to suspect 0_o, just random voting to spark conversation.
Not going to vote yet though, need to see how this turns out.
I have no reason to suspect 0_o, just random voting to spark conversation.
Not going to vote yet though, need to see how this turns out.
So, if I understand the point of the retarded joker role, it's to help the mafia slightly? Just how likely is the role to appear in a game this size do you all think?
Regardless of what strager gave as evidence, I still don't believe that heshe is the joker. I think it was just something heshe lucked? into, since they admittedly don't know what they are doing.
Regardless of what strager gave as evidence, I still don't believe that heshe is the joker. I think it was just something heshe lucked? into, since they admittedly don't know what they are doing.
DiamondCrash wrote:
You lied.
LS' Big Mafia 1 had a Jester which basically is the joker.
I don't believe this joker crap though. Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
I don't believe this joker crap though. Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
the fact that you don't know....Wojjan wrote:
LS' Big Mafia 1 had a Jester which basically is the joker.
I don't believe this joker crap though. Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
I wouldn't say he's dumb, he's just new to this stuff that's all.Wojjan wrote:
Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
Anyway, if he is the jester and none of us want a shared win, then a fairly standard way of dealing with it is by not lynching him today and letting the mafia NK him tonight. If he is not NK'd tonight then we lynch him tomorrow. This way, if he is a predator then yay, we lynch a predator tomorrow. If not, the mafia won't want to take a chance that he is a jester and kill him tonight so we don't lynch him tomorrow.
Though again, this is only if nobody wants a shared win. I dunno how the predators would feel about sharing their win in exchange for a human being lynched tomorrow, and I don't know what all of you think either. So DISCUSS.
Why would they nightkill himher? If the game continues even after a joker's death, I don't see the downside for the mafia. I don't even see a point to the joker role existing except to help the mafia... so please tell me how what you said makes sense.0_o wrote:
Anyway, if he is the jester and none of us want a shared win, then a fairly standard way of dealing with it is by not lynching him today and letting the mafia NK him tonight. If he is not NK'd tonight then we lynch him tomorrow. This way, if he is a predator then yay, we lynch a predator tomorrow. If not, the mafia won't want to take a chance that he is a jester and kill him tonight so we don't lynch him tomorrow.
Hopefully someone points out the obvious....
I'm not going to be the one to say it.
I'm not going to be the one to say it.
Two wrote:
Why would they nightkill himher? If the game continues even after a joker's death, I don't see the downside for the mafia. I don't even see a point to the joker role existing except to help the mafia... so please tell me how what you said makes sense.
Basically the only reason for nightkilling the jester would be so if they won, the game would be a "Predator win!" and not "Predator and Jester win!" But then again,0_o wrote:
Though again, this is only if nobody wants a shared win.
Maybe they're greedy and want the game to themselves - maybe not.0_o wrote:
I dunno how the predators would feel about sharing their win in exchange for a human being lynched tomorrow
All I know is that there have been several osu!mafia games with a jester involved, and I wouldn't put it past SFG to throw one into this one.
EDIT:
err.. why? Just say it.Nakata Yuji wrote:
Hopefully someone points out the obvious....
I'm not going to be the one to say it.
It may or may not be to my advantage.
I haven't seen a small game (13 people) have a jester yet. (though I may be wrong since I haven't exactly joined a lot of games)
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
- If they are the joker, they're just going to keep saying annoyingly stupid things
- If they are the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they aren't the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they are a part of the mafia, they won't get nightkilled obviously.
Basically the only way around being stuck with the bill of lynching them is for someone to investigate them.
- If they are the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they aren't the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they are a part of the mafia, they won't get nightkilled obviously.
Basically the only way around being stuck with the bill of lynching them is for someone to investigate them.
This is confusing We don't even know if there is a joker
We don't even know if there is a joker
Topic Starter
If activity doesn't pick up, I'm going to start trying to replace players and move the deadline for the lynch forwards.
Sorry, it's bugging me: the role's actually called the Jester, not Joker.
Also, mod: If a jester is investigated, would the outcome be Guilty or Not Guilty (assuming investigations don't reveal entire roles)?
Also, mod: If a jester is investigated, would the outcome be Guilty or Not Guilty (assuming investigations don't reveal entire roles)?
*glare*NoHItter wrote:
I haven't seen a small game (13 people) have a jester yet. (though I may be wrong since I haven't exactly joined a lot of games)
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
you got me.
Topic Starter
Possible results of an investigation include "mafia," "neutral," and "town." A jester, along with any other third party, would come up as being "neutral."
WIFOM. A tricky jester could pretend to be a mafia pretending to be a jester. Although seeing as he's a new player, it would seem more likely that if he was the jester then he would bank on everyone else not knowing about the possibility of a jester role.NoHItter wrote:
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
viewtopic.php?p=498609#p498609Nakata Yuji wrote:
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
oh.
*is noob at this*
teehee
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.Nakata wrote:
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..
Would I possibly want to do that?0_o wrote:
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.
Also, you're quite trusting.