Feint - We Won't Be Alone (feat. Laura Brehm) · forum

FCL

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-16T19:20:19+00:00

Avishay wrote:
Heyo.

[Forttt]
00:53:930 (2,3,4) - Feels kinda forced, keep the movement with the slider shape, http://puu.sh/nINRb/e57fe0d8cb.jpg Not so much but okay
00:58:387 (5) - That sliderbody whistle does not belong here.. lol fixed
01:03:016 (8,1) - Feels really underwhelming and kind of forced as by far the "I wa.." was emphasized with some interesting movement but here it just forces a square without much thought, I suggest CTRL+G on 01:03:187 (1,2) -, squares stays and it's great. Not think that it's good idea, since than I will breake square flow on 01:03:187 (1,2,3,4) - , but anyway, I have fixed flow by another way
01:21:015 (1,2) - I realise you are aiming to create a large spacing for the next object but the spacing between those feels a bit excessive, could reduce it a bit.I have checked previous similar things and I can say that it's not so large, Fort has used same spacing before.
01:23:587 (7,1) - Consecutive finishes when the instruments are so different sounds terrible, one on the head of 01:23:758 (1) - is fine. I agree
01:23:244 (5,6,7) - I dislike the fact that the spacing here is huge compared to the peak of the kiai, which is the end of it. There's nothing wrong here, but I just can't enjoy it at all while playing.
[Another]
00:39:873 (1,2,3) - Should probably move them a bit away to give some impact for the vocals http://puu.sh/nIOMS/61b93208c0.jpg It's not so much imo. Also stack is pretty fun to playing here
00:58:387 (3,1) - That overlap is not that nice. it is deliberately. This placement looks perfect for flow, also end of the 00:59:073 (1) - has placement on middle of 00:58:387 (3) - , so it's not so bad xD
01:00:787 (2,3,4,5) - That is a cool rectangle but it does not play really well because of the weird spacing and movement. agree, fixed
01:26:330 (8,1) - That stack.. does.. not.. make any sense? okay
01:26:501 (1,2) - That relatively low spacing does not either +.
[Advanced]
00:25:473 (6,1) - Spacing needs to be lower.
00:26:501 (1,2) - That pattern is not really noob-friendly, they get easily confused by sliderends and sliderheads, and the fact that they have to go through the sliderend and reach the sliderhead is bad, I'd CTRL+G and rearrange those. (Same for the next ones too).
00:43:473 (2,3) - A bit harsh for newbies too, I'd rotate it so it is directed to the right.
00:47:758 (4) - An other spacing issue. Please use AIMod and fix all of those, spacing in Advanced should be consistent when it's mapped this way.
00:53:587 (1,2,3,4) - There's no real reason to increase the SV (and the spacing) after that sliderend, remove it. all fixed, I guess
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I mostly want the rhythm and spacing be more appropriate for beginners on the easier diffs, but I can drop a star for now.

STAR HYPE!
Thanks for modding!

xDarxen

313 posts

Joined July 2014

xDarxen 2016-03-16T20:12:18+00:00

Avishay wrote:
[xDarxen]
00:53:587 (1,2,3) - An equilateral triangle would look much nicer here. I always thought it was one

Thanks!

Hype hype

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Zerss

730 posts

Joined December 2013

Zerss 2016-03-19T10:27:44+00:00

Avishay wrote:
Heyo.

[Zerss]
00:57:701 (4,5) - That's really really awkward, don't manipulate sliderticks on 1.5 beat sliders and don't even use 1.5 beat sliders when the music does not support it well, a simple 1/1 slider or a 1/1 slider and a circle will work. => FCL (hitsounds stuff) / imo using an hitsound is better since having nothing here sounds much awkward than having one
01:00:444 (4) - Why aren't you using the slidertick hitsound every second white tick? Using those strong hitsounds on the sliderticks only is awful. => FCL (hitsounds stuff)
01:08:673 (4) - 01:12:101 (5) - 01:14:158 (4) - 01:17:587 (5) - 01:19:644 (4) - etcetcetc.. Keep it simple, those are not friendly for beginners at all, especially when the are clear instruments on the ticks, which should be mapped instead as they are stronger, either use 2/1 or 1/1, 3/2 is not necessary. I've been manipulating this kind of sliders for so long in ~170bpm normals, every bns were ok with it and almost all of the normals players play this kind of thing without problems. This follow the rhythm, without being as easy as an easy diff, I still don't get the problem with it.
I mostly want the rhythm and spacing be more appropriate for beginners on the easier diffs, but I can drop a star for now.

fcl check it and waiting for explainations

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-19T11:21:45+00:00

Updated Zerss diff
I had done a little work with hitsounds in 00:56:330 - 01:01:815 part: deleted slidertick sc:3 sounds because I agree with Avishay, they really sound a bit odd. Also I had changed some places of whistles, now they not follow with instumentals only with vocal and melody, what good fit with Zerss's mapping style.
About 01:08:673 (4) - 01:12:101 (5) - 01:14:158 (4) - 01:17:587 (5) - 01:19:644 (4). They is pretty fine since Zerss have mapped primarily on melody, not instumentals like in other diffs. Besides red ticks also has sounds, so it's not should be confusing I guess.

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-03-19T21:57:13+00:00

gonna mod Fort's diff as requested... mostly suggestions and picky things since there aren't any major problems

00:27:873 (5) - idk why isn't this 1/1 like 00:27:187 (3) - it's the same kind of rhythm

00:28:730 - 00:39:701 - pretty important beat could make this clickable

00:33:358 (6) - that repeat doesn't really fit imo

00:46:044 - it makes more sense if this was clickable cuz there are three sounds here but you click only two 00:46:215 (2,3) - . that kinda applies to this whole section 00:48:787 - etc

00:57:701 (1) - this is sooo lacking emphasis

01:05:930 (1) - http://i.imgur.com/pONTVI7.png

01:07:301 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could make it into a star to look neater...

01:10:215 (2) - nerf this, it's really weak and so that 01:10:044 (1,3) - would feel emphasized as they should be

01:16:901 (1,2,3) - this line doesn't really work because 01:17:073 (2) - doesn't really have the same sound as the other two

01:23:758 (1) - also lacking emphasis

01:29:244 (1,2,3,4,5) - should prolly nerf this part, because for this measure the song gets really calm

01:37:815 (2,3,4) - this stack is so uneven zzz

gl

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-20T05:00:49+00:00

Strategas wrote:
gonna mod Fort's diff as requested... mostly suggestions and picky things since there aren't any major problems

00:27:873 (5) - idk why isn't this 1/1 like 00:27:187 (3) - it's the same kind of rhythm okay, fixed

00:28:730 - 00:39:701 - pretty important beat could make this clickable hm, not think so, this option fits good too

00:33:358 (6) - that repeat doesn't really fit imo y

00:46:044 - it makes more sense if this was clickable cuz there are three sounds here but you click only two 00:46:215 (2,3) - . that kinda applies to this whole section 00:48:787 - etc You are right, but I feel that this section will look empty without some 1/1 stuff, because I will should delete repeat here and add circle, what will create 1/1 empty section

00:57:701 (1) - this is sooo lacking emphasis sure, spacing was increased

01:05:930 (1) - http://i.imgur.com/pONTVI7.png Your option should work too, but what I have got now is not bad too

01:07:301 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could make it into a star to look neater... but it's not a star I guess

01:10:215 (2) - nerf this, it's really weak and so that 01:10:044 (1,3) - would feel emphasized as they should be y, fixed

01:16:901 (1,2,3) - this line doesn't really work because 01:17:073 (2) - doesn't really have the same sound as the other two But I am not think that it good reason to don't make this

01:23:758 (1) - also lacking emphasis fxd

01:29:244 (1,2,3,4,5) - should prolly nerf this part, because for this measure the song gets really calm It's works good, so nah

01:37:815 (2,3,4) - this stack is so uneven zzz oh shit, fixed

gl

Thanks a lot

FCL

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Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-20T15:36:43+00:00

Added SB

Deppyforce

1,969 posts

Joined November 2014

Deppyforce 2016-03-20T17:09:56+00:00

modded this long ago so no kds p/4833305

nazi modding again as requested

[Fort]
00:28:558 (7) - both head and tail of this slider is a bit stronger than 00:28:387 (6) - imo, consider split 7 into 2 circles like u did here 00:34:044 (8,9) -
00:39:530 (7) - ^
00:50:501 (3) - could split this to 2 circles, bcuz the sounds here is similar to 00:48:958 (3,4) -
01:02:673 (6) - could put this ~x370 y246 for better aesthetics
01:06:787 - this got ignored which is bad
01:10:901 (6,7) - the fact that this jump is smaller than 01:11:073 (7,8) - makes no rhythmic sense imo
01:39:701 (7) - both head and tail is soo strong here, they deserves to be clickable

yea gl

FCL

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Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-20T17:30:36+00:00

Deppyforce wrote:
modded this long ago so no kds p/4833305

nazi modding again as requested

[Fort]
00:28:558 (7) - both head and tail of this slider is a bit stronger than 00:28:387 (6) - imo, consider split 7 into 2 circles like u did here 00:34:044 (8,9) - Too much modders said about this, okay changed
00:39:530 (7) - ^
00:50:501 (3) - could split this to 2 circles, bcuz the sounds here is similar to 00:48:958 (3,4) - They isn't absolutely similar, also 1/2 slider good fit to piano here
01:02:673 (6) - could put this ~x370 y246 for better aesthetics ok
01:06:787 - this got ignored which is bad but slider follow together with vocal, so it's ok
01:10:901 (6,7) - the fact that this jump is smaller than 01:11:073 (7,8) - makes no rhythmic sense imo I agree
01:39:701 (7) - both head and tail is soo strong here, they deserves to be clickable hmm, not think so, kick slider also does work good

yea gl

Thank a lot!

Nozhomi

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Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2016-03-22T00:05:02+00:00

Olala it is the baguette M4M finally here for some shitmodding.

- General :

About hitsound on all diffs, I think part at 00:23:415 - & 00:45:358 - have a lack of hitsound. For 1st one, you can add whistle at 00:23:758 - / 00:24:444 - / 00:25:130 - / 00:25:815 - . For 2nd one on 00:45:358 - / 00:46:730 - to emphasis the vocal.

- Zerss's Normal :

01:34:044 (6) - Je comprend pour le kiai, parce que le strong beat était sur le red tic, mais sur cette section le drumhit est vraiment plus fort, et donc les joueurs seront plus enclin à tap ce beat là. Same pour 01:45:015 (5) - .

- Advanced :

AR6 would help to keep a constant increasing AR here, also BPM and object density are not enough to keep AR6.5 imo.
00:43:815 (1,1) - Recovery time is a little too low here. I would see more 2 measures at least. Change your spinner to a slider or see how you want to do it.
01:29:244 (1,1) - Uhhhhhhhhh this overlap looks really bad :c I suggest you this http://puu.sh/nP8H8/825b7f1868.jpg .

- xDarxen's Hard :

01:04:044 (4,5) - This jump is a little too huge, because he's more than jumps on kiai and that makes no sense. Move 01:04:215 (5) - to 388:100.
01:22:901 (2,3) - This movement is akward and break the flow in a so bad way. A solution here would be this http://puu.sh/nPa0b/0a6a4f32ea.jpg.
01:27:015 (2) - Honestly it would play better by moving it at 236:128.

- MKL's Insane :

00:30:273 (1) - Would CTRL+G, the counter movement to the bot to catch the slider is way too painful when you want just to follow on the top of it. And it works even more due to the little tilt of 00:31:130 (2) - .

- Another :

01:04:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - The curve of this stream could be more smooth imo.
01:16:387 (4,5) - I don't really get the point of this anti-jump. Better equalize spacing here.

- Fort's Together :

01:35:415 (5,6) - Best way to break here. I recommand strongly to do it like this http://puu.sh/nPbE2/07e039f8e1.jpg to have a more intuitive movement and flow for it.

Nothing more to add. I hate jumps.
Mukyu~

FCL

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Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-22T02:19:13+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Olala it is the baguette M4M finally here for some shitmodding.

- General :
About hitsound on all diffs, I think part at 00:23:415 - & 00:45:358 - have a lack of hitsound. For 1st one, you can add whistle at 00:23:758 - / 00:24:444 - / 00:25:130 - / 00:25:815 - . For 2nd one on 00:45:358 - / 00:46:730 - to emphasis the vocal. But it's obvious because song don't provide something more. Anyway, I have added whistles at 00:23:758 00:24:444 and 00:45:358, they should work I guess

- Advanced :
AR6 would help to keep a constant increasing AR here, also BPM and object density are not enough to keep AR6.5 imo. I agree, changed
00:43:815 (1,1) - Recovery time is a little too low here. I would see more 2 measures at least. Change your spinner to a slider or see how you want to do it. As much people said me that this spinner is too short, so okay I removed him and mapped this empty section
01:29:244 (1,1) - Uhhhhhhhhh this overlap looks really bad :c I suggest you this http://puu.sh/nP8H8/825b7f1868.jpg . It's okay and don't looks bad imo. Also this overlap should not prevent to playing, so I will keep him

- Another :
01:04:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - The curve of this stream could be more smooth imo. I thinks she's pretty smooth for heart form
01:16:387 (4,5) - I don't really get the point of this anti-jump. Better equalize spacing here. Are you sure that you mean right patterns? I know only one antijump and he's here 01:11:073 (5,6) -. If you mean him that I have fixed

- Fort's Together :
01:35:415 (5,6) - Best way to break here. I recommand strongly to do it like this http://puu.sh/nPbE2/07e039f8e1.jpg to have a more intuitive movement and flow for it. Fort had mapped all similar sections with same spacing, so I really can't find some reason to reduce spacing here. Also I not think that your option will work, because he's really have bad flow between 5 and 6, but I think I can change this if you will provide me to better idea

Nothing more to add. I hate jumps. I hope it's joke
Mukyu~

Thanks Nozhomi

TicClick

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TicClick 2016-03-22T06:35:06+00:00

привет, я полистал дифки и ничего не нашёл, форт мне местами не нравится, но это дело вкуса

flareelement.png не используется

[Another]

00:50:673 (4,1) - лучше поменять местами, чтобы слайдер попадал на тянущийся вокал
01:30:101 (2) - не уверен, что тут нужен короткий слайдер, даже несмотря на звук. Ноты вполне хватает

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-22T08:51:25+00:00

TicClick wrote:
привет, я полистал дифки и ничего не нашёл, форт мне местами не нравится, но это дело вкуса

flareelement.png не используется Zerss разберется, я думаю
[Another]
00:50:673 (4,1) - лучше поменять местами, чтобы слайдер попадал на тянущийся вокал хорошо
01:30:101 (2) - не уверен, что тут нужен короткий слайдер, даже несмотря на звук. Ноты вполне хватает там достаточно прятжный клап, так что кик-слайдер вполне может подойти

Большое спасибо!

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-03-22T13:26:35+00:00

FCL wrote:
Nothing more to add. I hate jumps. I hope it's joke

No that's not but it's a personnal thought ^^

Namki

1,281 posts

Joined November 2014

Namki 2016-03-22T14:11:55+00:00

Quick nazi mod.
General
Может добавить какой-нибудь фейд-ин к надписи "We won't be alone" в сб, имо будет лучше.

Zerss' Normal
1. I see stacks in beforekiai part, but can't see them in kiai. Maybe make this more consistent by adding some stacks in kiai part? 01:16:558 (3,4) - for example here.
Else if perfect.

Advanced
1. 01:12:444 (4) - вот тут флоу не нравится, что-нибудь такое лучше смотрится и играется тоже.
2. 01:42:615 (4,1) - здесь можно избежать оверлапа.
3. 01:45:358 (4,1) - вот между ними спейсинг большой какой-то, не думаешь, что немного экстремально? Для адвансед диффы-то.
4.01:51:187 (1) - а 1/2 слайдер не лучше вписывается вместо серкла?

xDarxen's Hard
1. 00:26:158 (1) - watch out moments like this, maybe NC isn't necessary.

Окей, остальное всё прекрасно~
Ранкай давай уже.

xDarxen

313 posts

Joined July 2014

xDarxen 2016-03-22T14:30:05+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
- xDarxen's Hard :
01:04:044 (4,5) - This jump is a little too huge, because he's more than jumps on kiai and that makes no sense. Move 01:04:215 (5) - to 388:100. Not a big difference, but okay, made it smaller.
01:22:901 (2,3) - This movement is akward and break the flow in a so bad way. A solution here would be this http://puu.sh/nPa0b/0a6a4f32ea.jpg. No, I like it this way.
01:27:015 (2) - Honestly it would play better by moving it at 236:128. This is made on porpuse and I think it plays really well, so no change.

Thank you!

Namki wrote:
xDarxen's Hard
1. 00:26:158 (1) - watch out moments like this, maybe NC isn't necessary. This is on downbeat and if you notice, it is consistent throughout the intro, so it is okay.

Thanks!

Updatezz

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Zerss

730 posts

Joined December 2013

Zerss 2016-03-22T14:40:23+00:00

TicClick wrote:
flareelement.png не используется mwtf, thx FCL for the translation xp; that was something that happend during a big update of the map (name changes), corrected

Nozhomi wrote:
Olala it is the baguette M4M finally here for some shitmodding. Olala croissant

- Zerss's Normal :
01:34:044 (6) - Je comprend pour le kiai, parce que le strong beat était sur le red tic, mais sur cette section le drumhit est vraiment plus fort, et donc les joueurs seront plus enclin à tap ce beat là. Same pour 01:45:015 (5) - . Mh, je sais plus exactement si ça été request dans un mod de faire ça, pour éviter d'être trop monotone; j'ai revert.

Namki wrote:
Zerss' Normal
1. I see stacks in beforekiai part, but can't see them in kiai. Maybe make this more consistent by adding some stacks in kiai part? 01:16:558 (3,4) - for example here.
Else if perfect. Mh, not sure about this; stacks were used in the slow part, and the kiai is like, the fastest part, so I don't think it'd be a good idea

okay, i've sent the update to fcl directly
for the ones who doesn't speak french; i reduced 01:34:044 (6) - and 01:45:015 (5) -'s length because of strong beat things.

EDIT to mkl:
01:05:158 - normal sampleset is missing, idk if it was on purpose, but if it was, that sounds horrible :3
I thought that I told that to you on the mod I did
no kds

Makeli

932 posts

Joined October 2013

Makeli 2016-03-22T14:54:13+00:00

ok i did what noz suggested and removed the curve from 00:29:930 (5) - cause it would flow like moose-shit when the moose is having some constipation
and idk what happened there Zerss. I thought i fixed it already but I guess not

xdupdate

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FCL

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FCL 2016-03-22T15:08:37+00:00

Namki wrote:
Quick nazi mod.
General
Может добавить какой-нибудь фейд-ин к надписи "We won't be alone" в сб, имо будет лучше. да я думаю и так нормально

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1. 01:12:444 (4) - вот тут флоу не нравится, что-нибудь такое лучше смотрится и играется тоже. не то, чтобы это сильно решало. Поменял на немного другое
2. 01:42:615 (4,1) - здесь можно избежать оверлапа. так задумано, почему бы и нет
3. 01:45:358 (4,1) - вот между ними спейсинг большой какой-то, не думаешь, что немного экстремально? Для адвансед диффы-то. мне такой спейсинг нравится, да и не должно быть сложно с учетом что это между двумя слайдерами
4.01:51:187 (1) - а 1/2 слайдер не лучше вписывается вместо серкла? нее

Окей, остальное всё прекрасно~
Ранкай давай уже.

Спасибо Намки!

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,569 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2016-03-22T16:42:04+00:00

baka IRC without baguette

2016-03-22 16:55 FCL: Okay, all diffs was updated
2016-03-22 16:55 Nozhomi: hue
2016-03-22 16:55 Nozhomi: k
2016-03-22 16:55 FCL: so can we go to forward?
2016-03-22 16:59 Nozhomi: xDarxen diff : 01:35:415 (1) - Remove NC
2016-03-22 17:00 Nozhomi: also I still don't agree on this pattern 01:22:901 (2,3) - 
2016-03-22 17:01 FCL: y, a bit weird flow
2016-03-22 17:01 FCL: what about this? http://puu.sh/nPSdx/202f504fb4.jpg
2016-03-22 17:02 Nozhomi: should be ok but I hope it's enough readable since the previous slider is still visible
2016-03-22 17:03 Nozhomi: in Advanced : 00:41:587 (7,1) - why spacing drop here ?
2016-03-22 17:04 Nozhomi: also what about stack 00:43:644 (3,6) - ?
2016-03-22 17:04 Nozhomi: and you adjust spacing with 00:44:330 (5) - 
2016-03-22 17:06 FCL: oh damn
2016-03-22 17:06 FCL: all fixed
2016-03-22 17:06 Nozhomi: also 00:45:358 - is still without any hs and I can't approve that :c
2016-03-22 17:07 FCL: you mean all of this section?
2016-03-22 17:08 FCL: or only this slider
2016-03-22 17:08 Nozhomi: the section
2016-03-22 17:08 Nozhomi: as I said on my mod
2016-03-22 17:09 Nozhomi: it should at least have some whistle even if volume is low
2016-03-22 17:09 Nozhomi: it's like you forget to hs this section right now
2016-03-22 17:11 Nozhomi: 01:29:244 (1,1) - so you decide to keep the overlap but it looks so meh :c
2016-03-22 17:11 FCL: okay, I will add
2016-03-22 17:12 FCL: but it's really not so bad
2016-03-22 17:12 FCL: pls can i keep it?
2016-03-22 17:14 Nozhomi: I have already do too much shit as a BN so pls I won't let this pass this, it ruin the aesthetic of your diff :c
2016-03-22 17:14 FCL: damn
2016-03-22 17:14 FCL: okay
2016-03-22 17:15 Nozhomi: ;w;
2016-03-22 17:15 FCL: oh, I had hitsounded vocal part
2016-03-22 17:15 FCL: but only in fort diff lol
2016-03-22 17:15 Nozhomi: looool
2016-03-22 17:16 Nozhomi: still not enough imo
2016-03-22 17:17 Nozhomi: minimum should be to add whistle on 00:46:730 - & 00:52:215 - because the vocal is strong on them
2016-03-22 17:17 FCL: hm, you think that i should add hs's beat like 00:47:244 (5,6,7,1) - ?
2016-03-22 17:17 FCL: oh well
2016-03-22 17:19 Nozhomi: and about whistle for 00:23:415 - this part
2016-03-22 17:19 Nozhomi: the 20% volume on them is too low imo
2016-03-22 17:21 FCL: 30%? because whitsles is pretty lower in this section as farther
2016-03-22 17:21 Nozhomi: k for 30%
2016-03-22 17:32 FCL: oh, all done
2016-03-22 17:32 Nozhomi: ok update then*
2016-03-22 17:34 FCL: updated
2016-03-22 17:35 Nozhomi: Advanced : 01:31:987 (1,4) - Little little little overlap XD
2016-03-22 17:37 FCL: fixed
2016-03-22 17:38 Nozhomi: ok
2016-03-22 17:38 Nozhomi: should be good*
2016-03-22 17:38 Nozhomi: last update ^^
2016-03-22 17:39 FCL: updated last time
2016-03-22 17:40 Nozhomi: k

Should be ok to go.

Bubbled~

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2016-03-23T12:35:36+00:00

Hey, recheck here.

[Zerss]

00:23:415 (1,2) - Would be much friendly with a good visual flow, like this - http://puu.sh/nQTYZ/a9bca11f8d.jpg

[Advanced]

01:38:501 (4,1) - Keep the downbeat jumps after kiai with good taste, the movement here is too sharp and big compared to 01:37:130 (4,1) -, 01:34:387 (4,1) - etc etc
01:42:615 (4,1) - Avoiding this overlap would be great.

[xDarxen]

00:55:644 (2,3) - Muting those is incredibly bad and unnecessary, there are very clear notes in the song yet the first sliderend and all of the second slider are muted. At the very least you could not mute the second slider head but it's still unacceptable in my eyes. From the criteria -
the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense
01:02:501 (3,4,5) - Why the circles? It creates awkwardness toward the next pattern, the circles are not landing on anything special (01:03:873 (3,4,5) - but those do) and they take the emphasization from 01:02:844 (5,1,2) - as the transition between 5 and 1 is really poor and boring, you could either change 01:03:187 (1) - to circles (which would make a bit more sense), but there's the preferable option of just removing the circles and making a slider.
01:11:073 (4) - I'd suggest to CTRL+G that, it makes the whole pattern much nicer, and it goes well with the song anyway.
01:51:187 (1) - Movement is a bit exaggerated for a hard here, triangular movement here 01:50:673 (4,5) - and then it is cut with a huge spacing and an acute angle, which feels bad to play, try placing this circle at x120 y288 or x256 y88 as the movement here is more appropriate for the spacing.

[MKL]

What is going on with so many duplicated green line in the beginning? They achieve nothing, the intention was probably to play with the hitsounds but it seems that someone messed that up a bit, so please fix those.
00:55:815 (2,3,4) - Yeah about those, same as on xDarxen diff, don't mute those.

[Another]

00:43:730 (1) - Green line at the end of the slider probably meant to reduce the volume of the slider? Because it has no difference from the prev line.
01:16:215 (3,4,5) - Emphasization is a bit confusing here, 5 doesn't get as much momentum as 4 gets, moving some object arounds can help, one example would moving 5 to x380 y272, sharper movement from previous pattern and bigger spacing.
01:21:701 (4) - Sliderbody whistle is most likely not intended here.

Popping the bubble over the almost-silent hitsounds, call me or noz to rebub.

Zerss

730 posts

Joined December 2013

Zerss 2016-03-23T12:50:04+00:00

Avishay wrote:
Muting those is incredibly bad and unnecessary, there are very clear notes in the song yet the first sliderend and all of the second slider are muted. At the very least you could not mute the second slider head but it's still unacceptable in my eyes.

5% hitsounds aren't considered as like, completely muted hitsounds.
I've muted an hitsound in one of my beatmaps, and I've talked about it with some BNs (because I wanted my hitsound to be muted)
They told me that 5% hitsounds with like a low volume hitsound are not considered as muted and it's totally ok to do that.

Avishay wrote:
[Zerss]
00:23:415 (1,2) - Would be much friendly with a good visual flow, like this - http://puu.sh/nQTYZ/a9bca11f8d.jpg okay

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2016-03-23T13:00:29+00:00

volume lvl are considered case by case, if your volume is inaudible at slider head or circle then is unrankable, if your slider tails or slider ticks at 5% don't make sense also can be considered unrankable, volume is case by case, didn't check this yet, gonna edit my post with my opinion in some minutes.

Edit:

xDarxen and MKL : 00:55:987 (3) - agree with Avishay, current one is not acceptable for rank, you dont get feedback from clicking that object at 5%

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-03-23T13:07:25+00:00

Avishay wrote:
Hey, recheck here.

[Advanced]
01:38:501 (4,1) - Keep the downbeat jumps after kiai with good taste, the movement here is too sharp and big compared to 01:37:130 (4,1) -, 01:34:387 (4,1) - etc etc
01:42:615 (4,1) - Avoiding this overlap would be great. all fixed

[MKL]
What is going on with so many duplicated green line in the beginning? They achieve nothing, the intention was probably to play with the hitsounds but it seems that someone messed that up a bit, so please fix those.
00:55:815 (2,3,4) - Yeah about those, same as on xDarxen diff, don't mute those. Hope that MKL don't mind that I will delete all unnecessary green lines, because they are really useless
[Another]
00:43:730 (1) - Green line at the end of the slider probably meant to reduce the volume of the slider? Because it has no difference from the prev line. sure, fixed
01:16:215 (3,4,5) - Emphasization is a bit confusing here, 5 doesn't get as much momentum as 4 gets, moving some object arounds can help, one example would moving 5 to x380 y272, sharper movement from previous pattern and bigger spacing. okay, was moved
01:21:701 (4) - Sliderbody whistle is most likely not intended here. sure
Popping the bubble over the almost-silent hitsounds, call me or noz to rebub.

Okay, fixed some stuff from my side, in waiting of xDarxen reply

xDarxen

313 posts

Joined July 2014

xDarxen 2016-03-23T13:22:35+00:00

Okay, fixed everything from Avishay's mod. Thanks!

Updatee

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Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2016-03-23T13:34:11+00:00

As everything was sorted out, here ya go

Makeli

932 posts

Joined October 2013

Makeli 2016-03-23T15:35:59+00:00

D: MY GREENLINES xD
i muted out some sliderends with those but whatevs. Those didn't change anything with the maps structure so it doesn't really matter

EDIT: ANOTHER HAS BIGGER AR THAN FORT'S THING SO PLS ASD

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,569 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2016-03-31T23:51:01+00:00

Recheck.

- General :

About hitsounds again, I think you could add some more whistle on the start of the song (at 00:25:130 - / 00:25:815 - / 00:30:615 - / 00:31:301 - / 00:34:044 - (you forget this one) / 00:36:101 - / 00:36:787 - / 00:41:587 - / 00:42:273 - ) I think it sounds really good to emphasis with vocal.

- Zerss' Normal :

00:42:958 (2,3,4) - Spacing issue fix pls.

- Advanced :

01:30:101 (2) - This is a terrible idea imo. You basically overmap it with a reverse slider but try to hide it with a 5% volume on it. Just do a 1/2 slider or two circles here.

- xDarxen's Hard :

00:55:644 (2,3) - About them, why you didn't used whistle like 00:50:158 (2,3) - ? It would make sens since there is synth on them (like 00:54:273 (3,4) - ).
01:10:730 (3,4) - So the flow is really akward here, because you break really hard an with a strange movement to the left who is opposite of movement from 01:10:730 (3) - . Something simple could be to use a straight slider for 01:10:730 (3) - or redo the pattern.

- MKL's Insane :

Ok

- Another :

As pointed by Maakkeli, it's quite strange than you use an AR > than Fort diff, when it should be the opposite because Fort contain more objects and bigger jumps than your. So maybe go for AR9 on this one.
01:30:101 (2,3) - Same as Advanced, change 01:30:101 (2) - for a circle.

- Fort's Together :

Due to previous diff (if changed), AR9.1 or 9.2 maybe no ?

Call me back.
Mukyu~

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

FCL 2016-04-01T00:47:14+00:00

I agree with all, so was fixed all from my side
~~In waiting to xDarxen answer!~~
Holy shit http://puu.sh/o1T8e/da0f7ea3f6.png
Anyway, these changes doesn't doing a something global
He's comeback, okay

xDarxen

313 posts

Joined July 2014

xDarxen 2016-04-01T11:26:43+00:00

Okay, all done

Updateee

osu file format v14

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