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Kytoxid
Lalala~

[General]

Things you could add to tags:

- 西木野真姫
- Notes of School idol days
- ラブライブ!
- slider art

I also think you should use Nishikino Maki in the tags instead of the other order.

- I would probably use tickrate 2 instead of 4. 4 sounds a bit too busy for the slow map.

[Normal]

00:11:374 (1) - I feel like this plays better if it ended 1/2 later.
00:13:708 (1,2,3) - This felt a bit awkward, the slider is sort of following vocals, but later it drops off to follow piano, and in the middle, the ticks are sounding weird.
00:20:708 (2) - The transition from vocal to BG back to vocals is a bit rough, I'd remove this slider.
00:25:374 (2) - The sliderticks here don't sound very good. :(
00:42:874 (4) - Same as before. If you want to keep it, I'd recommend having it in a combo by itself.

[Hard]

Now that I've actually gotten used to my tablet, wow. It feels like I'm walking through an art gallery.

00:19:041 (1) - I'd shorten this by 1/4 and change it to note-slider, but I don't want to touch your art. XD
00:20:708 (2,3) - Combo by themselves?
00:34:041 (3) - Quite a harsh jump. Ctrl-G it?
00:42:041 (5) - I think it looks better oriented like this: http://puu.sh/5qHef.jpg
01:26:041 (1,2,3) - Put the heart halves closer together? http://puu.sh/5qHh2.jpg
01:31:374 (2,3) - Adjust these a bit so that the tick lands right on the bend?

Overall, the jump between the two difficulties is a bit harsh; Normal can pass off as an Easy while Hard's spacing + SV is approaching an Insane. A proper Normal to span the gap would be nice.
Topic Starter
blissfulyoshi

Kytoxid wrote:

Lalala~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfkO2LgTjw&feature=player_detailpage#t=244

[General]

Things you could add to tags: I forgot that we can use Japanese tags.

- 西木野真姫 Added.
- Notes of School idol days Since I doubt people will type in the album name and since I dislike excessive tags, not going to add it.
- ラブライブ! Added.
- slider art No, I think you know why

I also think you should use Nishikino Maki in the tags instead of the other order. Discussed, and since tag order doesn't matter, not changing.

- I would probably use tickrate 2 instead of 4. 4 sounds a bit too busy for the slow map. Blame Garven. He said tick rate 4, and I didn't care too much either way.

[Normal]

00:11:374 (1) - I feel like this plays better if it ended 1/2 later. Done.
00:13:708 (1,2,3) - This felt a bit awkward, the slider is sort of following vocals, but later it drops off to follow piano, and in the middle, the ticks are sounding weird. Tbh, I actually liked how this followed the piano and vocals with the exception of the ticks.
00:20:708 (2) - The transition from vocal to BG back to vocals is a bit rough, I'd remove this slider. Changed to 2 circles.
00:25:374 (2) - The sliderticks here don't sound very good. :( I still blame Garven...
00:42:874 (4) - Same as before. If you want to keep it, I'd recommend having it in a combo by itself. Added a new combo.

[Hard]

Now that I've actually gotten used to my tablet, wow. It feels like I'm walking through an art gallery. Yay! My goal is complete.

00:19:041 (1) - I'd shorten this by 1/4 and change it to note-slider, but I don't want to touch your art. XD Done. Took some work, but shorter now.
00:20:708 (2,3) - Combo by themselves? Done.
00:34:041 (3) - Quite a harsh jump. Ctrl-G it? Done, not sure why I had it that hard
00:42:041 (5) - I think it looks better oriented like this: http://puu.sh/5qHef.jpg Sure, done.
01:26:041 (1,2,3) - Put the heart halves closer together? http://puu.sh/5qHh2.jpg Done.
01:31:374 (2,3) - Adjust these a bit so that the tick lands right on the bend? The purpose of these sliders is that they were supposed to be asymmetric, so not changing

Overall, the jump between the two difficulties is a bit harsh; Normal can pass off as an Easy while Hard's spacing + SV is approaching an Insane. A proper Normal to span the gap would be nice. As I responded in the previous mod post, I don't think another diff fits too well with the note density the way it is. While I do agree Hard is a lot faster than normal, it doesn't feel that much harder for me because the note density about the same and a difference in speed is something most players can get used to quickly. However, with that said, there are some parts in hard that are exceptionally hard, so if you want some more things toned down, I can try to do that.
Thanks so much for the fast and helpful mod Kyto. I will try my best to make you happy xD
Irreversible
no banner or anything cool because annoying Laptop is really annoying

IRC mod
20:18 Irreversible: hii
20:18 Irreversible: i can mod your map now, well i can try
20:18 blissfulyoshi: lol
20:18 blissfulyoshi: thx
20:18 Irreversible: because i'm online with my laptop =v=
20:18 Irreversible: let's see how it works
20:18 Irreversible: ^.^
20:18 blissfulyoshi: lol
20:18 Irreversible: can you np? i lack of maps atm
20:18 *blissfulyoshi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/317949 Pile - Aishiteru Banzai! (Prepro Piano Mix)]
20:19 blissfulyoshi: I probably should start modding soon
20:19 Irreversible: k let me dl
20:20 blissfulyoshi: oh yeah, first thing on my list is somehting the QAT dropped
20:20 blissfulyoshi: yay
20:20 blissfulyoshi: xD
20:22 Irreversible: LOL
20:22 Irreversible: what?
20:23 *blissfulyoshi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/228549 An - Xhroria [Hyper]]
20:23 Irreversible: ah
20:23 Irreversible: yeah sometimes QAT is like messed up
20:23 blissfulyoshi: well they had some reason
20:23 Irreversible: wanna mod 3 maps now but i'll give yours priority
20:23 blissfulyoshi: yay
20:23 Irreversible: for 5$
20:23 Irreversible: loljk xD
20:23 blissfulyoshi: T_T
20:24 blissfulyoshi: 5usd or 5 euros.....
20:24 blissfulyoshi: okay, lets check to see how overmapped another is
20:24 blissfulyoshi: since happy30 was complaining about it
20:24 *Irreversible is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/317949 Pile - Aishiteru Banzai! (Prepro Piano Mix)]
20:24 Irreversible: D:
20:24 Irreversible: can i do irc pls
20:24 Irreversible: it would be easier for me
20:25 Irreversible: because my computer goes wubwub if i mod in internet @@
20:25 blissfulyoshi: sure
20:27 Irreversible: ok
20:27 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/317950 Pile - Aishiteru Banzai! (Prepro Piano Mix) [Normal]]
20:27 Irreversible: I've looked through it and I disagree with some rhythm
20:27 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:27 Irreversible: it's really unconsistent and I think a normal player will totally rage about it
20:28 blissfulyoshi: hmmmm
20:28 blissfulyoshi: tell me how
20:28 blissfulyoshi: and I'll see if I can change it
20:28 Irreversible: yup
20:28 Irreversible: 00:13:708 (1) -
20:28 Irreversible: after i've looked through it, i see that you wanted to start that one on this piano tone
20:28 Irreversible: but that kinda doesn't work, i mean overall the rhythm here is not really pretdicable
20:29 Irreversible: i have a suggestion
20:29 Irreversible: wait
20:29 blissfulyoshi: wait, that is all lyrical
20:29 Irreversible: o_
20:29 Irreversible: then it really doens't make sense
20:29 Irreversible: if it was lyrical it would be like that
20:30 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5wWNa.jpg
20:30 blissfulyoshi: simplified lyrical
20:30 blissfulyoshi: but whatever
20:30 Irreversible: i guess if you appy ^ it will be easier, even if it is 'harder'
20:31 Irreversible: or well, 00:17:708 (3) - is this lyrical too? if yes, can you explain me why? It sounds wrong o.o
20:31 blissfulyoshi: let me get teh blanketing right
20:31 Irreversible: okay
20:31 Irreversible: ah btw tell me if you disagree
20:31 Irreversible: i don't want to force y
20:31 blissfulyoshi: I don't mind
20:31 blissfulyoshi: not particularly attached to anything
20:32 Irreversible: well i find it useless if you just apply stuff you don't know why
20:32 Irreversible: well i can try to explain you why
20:32 blissfulyoshi: 00:17:708 (3) - okay this was werid
20:32 blissfulyoshi: I should have went with a white snap
20:32 blissfulyoshi: not sure what I was thinking
20:33 Irreversible: 00:11:374 (1) - this slider is good. 00:13:708 - then the circle here - it emphasizes the really strong 'ha' and then here we have 'me' which is really emphaizsd 00:14:041 (1) -
20:34 Irreversible: 00:20:708 (2,3) - any hitsounds on those?
20:36 blissfulyoshi: wait did you want me to change anything else around 11
20:36 blissfulyoshi: confused
20:36 blissfulyoshi: and woops
20:36 blissfulyoshi: forgot teh hitsounds fromt eh previous change
20:37 blissfulyoshi: claps or finishes?
20:37 Irreversible: wistles i guess
20:37 blissfulyoshi: oh okay
20:37 blissfulyoshi: wanted to chagne it up
20:37 blissfulyoshi: whatever
20:38 Irreversible: sure
20:38 Irreversible: about blue ticks
20:38 Irreversible: i don't recommend to keep them
20:39 Irreversible: there are 2 of them i guess
20:40 blissfulyoshi: well it is too strong for me to ignore
20:40 blissfulyoshi: and it is not like it is that fast
20:41 Irreversible: imo
20:41 Irreversible: normal needs to follow 1 rhythm
20:41 Irreversible: with slight varying rhythm
20:41 Irreversible: to let the player have the best feeling, well
20:41 blissfulyoshi: hmmm
20:42 blissfulyoshi: so how much should I change
20:42 blissfulyoshi: I can replace the whole section
20:42 blissfulyoshi: but it won't get rid of the blue ticks
20:42 Irreversible: if they land on a blue tick
20:42 Irreversible: or repeat
20:42 blissfulyoshi: and just want to make sure
20:43 blissfulyoshi: 00:20:874 (3) - this blue tick right
20:43 blissfulyoshi: or soemthing else
20:43 Irreversible: uh
20:43 Irreversible: well
20:43 Irreversible: i thought that one was actuall ok
20:43 Irreversible: oO
20:43 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:43 blissfulyoshi: then where?
20:43 Irreversible: 00:42:874 (1) -
20:43 blissfulyoshi: getting confused
20:43 blissfulyoshi: oh lol
20:43 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:44 Irreversible: and nother one.. need to update wait
20:44 Irreversible: 00:46:541 (2) - this one sounds broken
20:45 blissfulyoshi: thinking
20:45 blissfulyoshi: gah, this will be hard to fix
20:45 blissfulyoshi: I know what you mean
20:45 blissfulyoshi: just let me think
20:45 blissfulyoshi: unless you have a suggestion
20:45 Irreversible: i can help you.. wait
20:45 Irreversible: what bat would i be if i hadn't suggetions =v=
20:45 blissfulyoshi: lol
20:46 Irreversible: sec
20:46 Irreversible: haha
20:47 blissfulyoshi: lol
20:50 Irreversible: o
20:50 Irreversible: ok i'm back now
20:50 blissfulyoshi: ?
20:50 Irreversible: orz
20:50 blissfulyoshi: oh okay
20:50 blissfulyoshi: lol
20:50 Irreversible: needed to find the charger
20:51 blissfulyoshi: oh
20:51 blissfulyoshi: very important
20:51 Irreversible: 00:35:708 (2,3) - this one here
20:51 Irreversible: the blanket bothers me a bit
20:51 Irreversible: in my opinion, that's something aesthetical tho
20:51 Irreversible: check the gap between 1-2
20:51 Irreversible: the gap between 2-3 should be the same
20:51 Irreversible: u know what i mean?
20:52 blissfulyoshi: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1135156 better?
20:53 blissfulyoshi: 3 move 1 left
20:53 Irreversible: ill recheck after
20:53 Irreversible: 00:38:374 (2,3,4) -
20:53 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5wYbo.jpg sometijing like this? might be better because now it might be too hidden
20:54 blissfulyoshi: okay
20:54 Irreversible: 00:46:541 (2) - that DS rise can be avoided pretty easily
20:54 Irreversible: 00:46:541 (2,3) - ah, as well here
20:54 Irreversible: this rhythm sounds broken
20:54 Irreversible: i'm sure you can discover that yourself
20:54 Irreversible: the rhythm sounds much smoother if you stick to white red here
20:55 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5wYko.jpg
20:56 Irreversible: 4 starts here:
20:56 Irreversible: 00:45:708 -
20:56 blissfulyoshi: oh okay
20:56 Irreversible: 00:58:374 (1,2,3) - very bad flow here. the slider goes left, then 2 follows the flow naturally, but overall it doesn't compliment each other
20:56 Irreversible: because its so straight after all
20:57 Irreversible: 01:01:041 (1,2,3) - same as above. rhythm way too broken
20:58 Irreversible: 01:36:708 (3) - nc
20:59 Irreversible: 01:20:374 (1,2,3) - good idea but not really proper made imo
20:59 blissfulyoshi: 00:59:374 (2,3,4) - it is just a triangle....
20:59 Irreversible: can you try tidying up this a bit?
21:00 blissfulyoshi: 01:01:041 (1,2,3) - thinking how to fix this
21:02 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5wYHw.jpg
21:02 Irreversible: 01:00:708 - starts here
21:02 Irreversible: 4*
21:02 Irreversible: not sure about the blue tick tho
21:02 Irreversible: but it sounds nice
21:03 blissfulyoshi: no way, not on normal
21:03 blissfulyoshi: not stacking slider endsd
21:03 Irreversible: then go back to the bleu tick
21:03 blissfulyoshi: that is a lot harder techique than normal stacks
21:03 Irreversible: red*
21:04 blissfulyoshi: which red tick?
21:04 Irreversible: reduce
21:04 Irreversible: the
21:04 Irreversible: nvm
21:04 Irreversible: push the blue tick slier
21:04 Irreversible: to the white one
21:04 blissfulyoshi: kk
21:04 Irreversible: fuck this shit
21:04 Irreversible: modding
21:04 Irreversible: laptop
21:04 Irreversible: -_-
21:04 Irreversible: i'm done with normal for now
21:05 blissfulyoshi: lol
21:05 blissfulyoshi: you can wait till you use a different pc
21:05 blissfulyoshi: I am not in a rush
21:05 Irreversible: nah
21:05 Irreversible: you can look for more mods meanwhile
21:05 Irreversible: didn't check the thread
21:06 Irreversible: maybe some mods will also help to get a even better rhythm
21:06 blissfulyoshi: kk
21:06 *Irreversible is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/317949 Pile - Aishiteru Banzai! (Prepro Piano Mix) [Hard]]
21:08 Irreversible: kk
21:08 Irreversible: the rhythm is
21:08 Irreversible: better but still has weird points
21:08 Irreversible: as well as
21:08 Irreversible: sometimes it's really clean
21:08 Irreversible: then it's messed up
21:08 Irreversible: i'll try to point them out
21:08 Irreversible: i'll just post the things that bother me
21:08 Irreversible: with some key words what could be better,
21:08 Irreversible: i'll explain more in detail
21:08 Irreversible: if needed because laptop is bleh.
21:10 blissfulyoshi: kk
21:10 Irreversible: 00:00:708 (1) - http://puu.sh/5wZbM.jpg rhythm is slightly broken, follows the musicb etter tho
21:10 Irreversible: 00:03:874 (3,4) - the fact that they start on blue makes the mweird, you should avoid that (like, they also sound weird)
21:11 blissfulyoshi: I will have to disagree with 1
21:11 Irreversible: 00:06:708 (5) - let this end 00:07:041 - here
21:11 Irreversible: and make 6 fitting again
21:11 blissfulyoshi: 00:01:291 - the 2nd vocals falll here
21:11 Irreversible: yeah the vocals are weird here
21:11 Irreversible: ><
21:11 blissfulyoshi: which would deefinitely work woorse with your arrangement
21:12 blissfulyoshi: plus it is not that pwoerful
21:12 Irreversible: 00:12:208 (4) - that one is kinda wrong, since the emphasized vocal is on the blue tick, not on the white tick
21:12 Irreversible: 00:13:708 (1) - i would map it like that: ha (slider) jimata (slider)
21:13 Irreversible: 00:16:708 (3,4,5,6) - the problem here is that they end on nothing, what lets the rhythm feel weird again..
21:13 blissfulyoshi: 00:03:874 (3,4) - follows the lyrics
21:13 Irreversible: 00:19:041 (1) - the slider should start on the blue tick..
21:14 Irreversible: the main problem is
21:14 Irreversible: sometimes you map the vocals
21:14 Irreversible: but then it's like super not proper made
21:14 Irreversible: because
21:14 Irreversible: that's basically what always happens
21:14 Irreversible: let's take..
21:14 Irreversible: hajimaru as example (random word)
21:14 Irreversible: she says it like that: HaJimaru (ha is emphaiszed, jimaru is empahsized)
21:15 Irreversible: so it should be slider (ha, short one ofc) jimaru (longer one then)
21:15 Irreversible: and you mostly do it like this
21:15 Irreversible: hajimaru one slider
21:15 Irreversible: or maybe for ha a circle
21:15 Irreversible: 00:35:708 (2) - that's the case here
21:16 blissfulyoshi: 00:16:708 (3,4,5,6) - they should end on ntohing
21:16 Irreversible: oh my gosh, that's one of the worst songs to map imo
21:16 Irreversible: that's even worse than abormalize (the map with 1000 stacks of mine)
21:16 blissfulyoshi: that is how vocals should end
21:16 blissfulyoshi: since the end fo teh slider isn't accented
21:17 Irreversible: 01:07:708 (2) - here: http://puu.sh/5wZD3.jpg
21:17 blissfulyoshi: 00:35:708 (2) - will change this
21:17 Irreversible: nc supah emphasizing
21:17 blissfulyoshi: okay that needs changing
21:17 Irreversible:
21:17 Irreversible: 01:12:708 (9) -
21:18 Irreversible: 01:20:374 (1) - here, you empahsized the wrong vocals imo
21:19 blissfulyoshi: oh gah
21:19 blissfulyoshi: that one was werid
21:19 blissfulyoshi: because I needed to make the map easier
21:20 blissfulyoshi: becuse the strongest vocals are 01:20:374 (1) -
21:20 blissfulyoshi: woops
21:20 blissfulyoshi: 01:20:708 -
21:21 Irreversible: i see
21:21 Irreversible: well
21:21 Irreversible: is that enough mod for now?
21:22 Irreversible: i'm terribly annoyed that i can't give good suggestions in a fast time because of my laptop xDD
21:22 blissfulyoshi: yep
21:22 blissfulyoshi: will change everything that I see fit
21:22 Irreversible: was it helpful?
21:22 blissfulyoshi: thx again for modding
21:22 Irreversible: :D

We fixed a lot of rhythm suggestions. But due to my annoying Laptop, I couldn't mod further. I'll give you another mod after you've applied some other ones! Call me back then <3
Topic Starter
blissfulyoshi

Irreversible wrote:

no banner or anything cool because annoying Laptop is really annoying

For what it is worth, I tried to make your post look somewhat normal and reply that way.

Normal:
20:28 Irreversible: 00:13:708 (1) - Changed to fit the rhythm better.
20:31 Irreversible: or well, 00:17:708 (3) - is this lyrical too? if yes, can you explain me why? It sounds wrong o.o Changed to fit the rhythm better.
20:34 Irreversible: 00:20:708 (2,3) - any hitsounds on those? Added Whistles.
20:51 Irreversible: 00:35:708 (2,3) - this one here Fixed the blanketing
20:53 Irreversible: 00:38:374 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/5wYbo.jpg sometijing like this? might be better because now it might be too hidden Changed the pattern to soemthing similar to yours
20:43 Irreversible: 00:42:874 (1) - No change since I think it fits.
20:54 Irreversible: 00:46:541 (2) - that DS rise can be avoided pretty easily, 00:46:541 (2,3) - ah, as well here, Solution: http://puu.sh/5wYko.jpg 4 starts here:00:45:708 - Changed to use your rhythm.
20:56 Irreversible: 00:58:374 (1,2,3) - very bad flow here. the slider goes left, then 2 follows the flow naturally, but overall it doesn't compliment each other because its so straight after all Flow felt fine to me, not changing.
20:57 Irreversible: 01:01:041 (1,2,3) - same as above. rhythm way too broken http://puu.sh/5wYHw.jpg 01:00:708 - starts here 4* done after talking about moving to red ticks
20:59 Irreversible: 01:20:374 (1,2,3) - good idea but not really proper made imo Here is where I hear the stresses 01:20:708 (repeat of 1), 01:21:041 (end of 1) 01:21:374 (2), 01:21:708 (start of 3), 01:22:041 (sadly just slider), 01:22:374 (leaving the hump part of 3). Because of that and the slow speed of Normal, I feel the pattern is easily readable and fitting, so no change.
20:58 Irreversible: 01:36:708 (3) - nc Done.

Hard:
21:10 Irreversible: 00:00:708 (1) - http://puu.sh/5wZbM.jpg rhythm is slightly broken, follows the musicb etter tho 00:01:291 - the 2nd vocals falls here (eighth note), so I think my current version fits better.
21:10 Irreversible: 00:03:874 (3,4) - the fact that they start on blue makes the mweird, you should avoid that (like, they also sound weird) Follows vocals just fine imo.
21:11 Irreversible: 00:06:708 (5) - let this end 00:07:041 - here and make 6 fitting again Changed to fit rhythm better.
21:12 Irreversible: 00:12:208 (4) - that one is kinda wrong, since the emphasized vocal is on the blue tick, not on the white tick Changed to fit rhythm better.
21:12 Irreversible: 00:13:708 (1) - i would map it like that: ha (slider) jimata (slider) The stress is on the ma, so having the repeat there works fine.
21:13 Irreversible: 00:16:708 (3,4,5,6) - the problem here is that they end on nothing, what lets the rhythm feel weird again.. I think they feel fine ending on nothing since the ending of sliders don't have to be accented.
21:13 Irreversible: 00:19:041 (1) - the slider should start on the blue tick.. Made into a circle + slider.
21:15 Irreversible: 00:35:708 (2) - that's the case here You like destorying my art, don't you xD, changed into 3 smaller slider.
21:17 Irreversible: 01:07:708 (2) - here: http://puu.sh/5wZD3.jpg Changed to your pattern.
21:17 Irreversible: 01:12:708 (9) - Fine, fine, added nc
21:18 Irreversible: 01:20:374 (1) - here, you empahsized the wrong vocals imo I feel the stress is on 01:20:708, and since I don't want to use toomany circles and since I don't want a slider to land on an accent, I rather keep it the way it is.

We fixed a lot of rhythm suggestions. But due to my annoying Laptop, I couldn't mod further. I'll give you another mod after you've applied some other ones! Call me back then <3
Thanks so much for the mod Irre. I'll find some other mods and make you impressed.....someday xD
Garven
I just nazied a slider. Not worth a kudosu.
claudio rolna
01:15:771 Add Kiai time
01:26:471 Add Kiai time here too
That all :) :D
Topic Starter
blissfulyoshi
I discussed with some other modders before, and we decided the chorus was really weak and didn't need kiai time.

As for Garven, he also changed a new combo....
claudio rolna

blissfulyoshi wrote:

I discussed with some other modders before, and we decided the chorus was really weak and didn't need kiai time.

As for Garven, he also changed a new combo....
Oh okay...
Irreversible
Done some IRC, added two NC.. and that's it.


Bubbled~
Garven
I guess I've looked at this enough times now that a recheck is easy enough.
Andrea
Maki-chan <3

Congrats on rank (:
Irreversible
gz bliss :)
DeliciousBread
This song is absolutely beautiful, you can't even begin to imagine how happy I was when I saw someone had mapped it. Thank you so much!
Kyouren
Gratzz!! blissfulyoshi!!^^
Oyatsu
Bliss pro!! More Love Live!! Nice song&map!! <3
Your skill make pattern slider are the best, NO one can better than you :)
Suimya
Bliss Gratz <3
rezoons
nice slider art <3
Itsujo
sliders annoying as hell.
Agripina_old
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) i'm realy happy ;)
oiiopo
Nice map! I drew so many hearts with my mouse :lol:
plesdonate
confusing silders
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