Rizen wrote:

Hi o/

You will very likely need a diff easier than the normal. rhythms like 00:24:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - can be very challenging for beginners and I don't think it would even be allowed on the "easiest difficulty" of the mapset (I might be wrong though so eh...) I think there was a mapset that was recently DQ'd because the easiest diff was too difficult. If you disagree with this, please at least make the normal difficulty hp drain 3 instead of 4 ;_; - lowest diff must be below 2 stars, which this is so im gonna call myself a evil bastard and go with it. hp drain? k ill add it.

Normal
00:08:891 (3,1) - please swap NCs around; 00:08:891 (3) - is the obvious start of the next section of the music - aight dad
00:15:950 (2) - NC to keep NC pattern zzz - kdad
00:15:950 (2,3,4,5) - I think it would be best to follow the violin sound because you followed the violin sound in the upcoming parts - im so glad i didnt push for bubble yet holy
00:29:715 (1) - consider this rhythm? http://puu.sh/mSZi6/74abf32198.jpg - piano.
00:46:303 (3,1,2,3) - I think it would be neater if you rearranged it like this. It won't affect the constant DS. http://puu.sh/mSZlC/956efa6800.jpg - i dont understand what this is supposed to fix. anyway, i think the pattern i have currently is neat enough :l
00:38:538 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - I also find it weird how this part of the song follows NC per measure when the rest of the song is NC per two measures - NC every white tick? :l
00:49:832 (3,1) - swap NCs? (You have a few of these in the diff ) - ill keep this.
01:12:420 (1) - consider making this a repeat slider? It fits imo. this is an example http://puu.sh/mSZzn/4295e5ef03.jpg - i didnt use a repeat slider for the entire section so i dont think itll be good to use now :l
01:22:302 (1) - NC plssss the NC will increase the health bar (I think) so people don't die in the mini break - ill use the NC if my other diffs use a NC. oh wait.

Advanced
00:06:068 (1) - isn't the slider tail meant to be blanketed by the previous slider? can easilt be done by moving it to 445//258 - tbh that wasnt meant to be a blanket, but ill humour you. applied.
01:24:597 - missing finish I suppose - whoops
01:29:185 (4) - missing clap? - whoops

Hard
00:24:420 (1) - Following the previous spacing pattern, wouldn't this need to be spaced out a bit more? http://puu.sh/mSZSa/df6d8b2b7d.jpg this would need patching up afterwards though, but it is completely do-able - coz im a lazy fuck i moved 00:23:362 (3,4,5) - upwards so that 4 would blanket something. hey it works.
00:39:950 (1,2,3) - flow is rather sharp... maybe it can be improved by moving 00:40:479 (2) - to 75//211. This would of course make the flow at 00:39:950 (1,2) - slightly worse, but I think this would be an overall improvement. - worse flow? bullshit it flows the same ;l applied
01:01:832 (4,5) - Maybe ctrl+g'ing each of these sliders will improve playability? (it will also increase spacing at 01:02:185 (5,1) - ) - 5 has more emphasis than 1, so 5 would be spaced out much more to grant the emphasis needed. okay i did not understand what i just said. 5 has more BANG than 1. hence the spacing difference. flows kreygasm as well :l
01:06:773 (1) - wouldn't it make sense to space this out because transitions between measures are also spaced like 01:03:950 (1) - 01:05:362 (1) - ? http://puu.sh/mT06F/a7ebfb3dd4.jpg - gave it more spacing
01:22:303 (6) - NC plssssss - noooooooo

Pro Insane
00:29:715 (5) - I feel as though this should be spaced more due to vocal change being pretty big. Something like this http://puu.sh/mT0cV/a3bf4a428f.jpg - naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

ok granddad (coz sergio is my mom, dad and my son)

Xexxar wrote:

Edited the map: http://puu.sh/mVhCo/7723a513a1.txt

Kroytz wrote:

[Xexxar]

00:09:420 (4) - Imagine if these were low SV sliders that extended onto the blue tick 00:09:862 - with a muted end. That I think works a ton better than this sudden stop slider. i feel like this would lose it's intuitiveness and become slider drop hell.

00:28:479 (5) - This I prefer seeing as 1/1 because sudden stop feels REALLY weird bro. it's pretty simple for me. I stop on the down beat where the intensity is low. Slider end carries the downbeat because singer is on red polarity and the downbeat isnt particularly strong.

00:29:891 (5) - ^

00:31:303 (1) - Same 1/1 slider and making 00:31:656 (2) - as a circle. Slider-end on those downbeats is harsh, least you can do is extend to the red beat so its more comfortable rhythm-wise. Or maybe just try how this sounds idk [example]

00:34:126 (5) - same thing

00:58:656 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1) - <3<3<3<3<3<3 :(

01:00:773 (1,2) - Maybe this works better as slider? singer is singing on 1/2 beat then it goes into downbeat. Two notes for that reason low spacing since not particularly intense

01:07:656 - Circle here to get rid of emptiness. Rhythmic gaps like this so awkward dude the vocals to me give a pause feeling and the beat following is particularly weak. I think the spacing is intuitive and location of the beats give off a logical sense of pause so I think this is fine.

01:09:068 - ^

01:25:656 (5,6) - Maybe ctrl-g this I wanted to have low spacing into a jump on 7 back down. the low angle jumps give off a feeling of low intensnity

01:29:185 (1) - Place this somewhere around 360;80 so you folllow the curvy shape of 01:27:773 (6,1,1,1) - I wanted to utilize mroe symmetry in this design, that's why it's on the symmetric axis of that pattern

bring on the pp

Kroytz wrote:

As requested:

[Hard]

00:03:950 (1) - Not sure about this NC - why is this nc even here

00:03:950 (1,2) - I think the SV is just a tad too high for this slow section here. Maybe tone down by .1 or .2 SV OR space (2) to be further from (1). At the moment, it sort of looks like (2) is to be played at 1/4 apart even tho it's timed 1/2 apart. I'd just change SV xd - i think its fine tho. i dont understand how 2 can be thought to be played as a 1/4 with a gap that large.

00:06:773 (2,3) - ^ - i added a note so that theres a 1/2 pattern.

00:24:068 (5,2) - Relationship with this overlap looks jarring. You could just make a triangle with (2) - removed the triangle. now its all purty

00:29:538 - There should be a beat here to match with 00:28:126 (3) - remapped

00:32:538 (3) - Shorten this by 1/2 and have a 1/1 slider start on the downbeat. Works better imo. That way, you can have two similar sliders at (1,2) for the piano just like you did here 00:34:303 (1,2) - : D - remapped so that it fits

00:36:773 (3) - remove repeat and maybe add circle - not enough emphasis for a circle imo

00:50:538 (1) - remove NC - why am i so bad at NCing

00:58:303 (5) - placing this over at 216;112 or somewhere around there feels better for the flow. Also NC this and remove the NC on 00:58:656 (1) - i did the NC but not the placement. that spacing is hella evil for a hard diff. who do you think i am? xexxar?

01:03:068 (2,3) - Slider on red tick is nono. You have the rhythm better in the following measures having circle on red so do it here too :T - ok great-granddad

01:11:626 - add missing beat here - behold the most ugly stream ever

01:22:126 (5,6) - Personally to me, I feel the emphasis here is too weak. It fits your design really well however, but it just feels weak lol - added a clap hitsound so that it doesnt feel weak

01:23:362 (2) - you could have this jump back to the (5) here 01:22:126 (5) - would be kind of cool I guess - applied

01:24:597 (3) - remove NC. Add NC here 01:25:126 (5) - why am i so bad

01:28:656 (1,2) - I'd make these into jumps for the ppppppp xd works fine otherwise, good diff. - added a jump for the pp eks dee

[Prologue]

00:06:773 (1,2) - This spacing is fine. However, 00:03:950 (2,3) - is misleading. Fix the spacing there xdd - made the beginning identical to the 2nd pattern. read as: copypasta as usual

00:08:185 (4,5) - Spacing adjustment as well. You could easily make a triangle with these three circles ( 00:07:832 (3,4,5) - ) but not with ( 00:08:185 (4,5,1) - ). The way you have it now is awkward spacing. - i tried great-granddad

00:19:832 (5) - Circle I think makes more sense on the bottom portion of the map like around 241;371 The flow and direction of it going to the top is a little weird. - remapped

00:28:656 (1) - ctrl-g and make parallel with (3)? - feels fine as is tbh

00:39:862 (7,1,2,3) - could make perfect triangle like you did here 00:38:538 (1,2,3) - wait this isnt a perfect triangle? shit how did i miss that

00:42:597 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - same goes for here. When highlighted, you can see where the triangles dont match up so perfectly. It'd be neater if they were perfect triangles is what im saying - yes but i dont think itll matter playwise.

01:01:479 (2,5) - Never a fan of these overlaps that serve no function aesthetically or design wise xd - kgreat-grandad

01:03:950 (1) - I see youre making a little triangle thing with these overlaps but wouldn't it be better to follow the direction you created with (3) and (5)? - nope it woudnt be better, mostly becoz i absolute hate jumps like these http://puu.sh/mXvtg/8e02ba36a5.jpg

01:04:303 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Idk, highlighting this jump pattern feels kinda weird. growing back and forth-ish motions don't feel so smooth at these angles. - eh it should be fine.

01:05:362 (1) - Same deal with following overlap direction - its fine imo

01:06:420 (4) - Flow-wise, it's be nice to have this on the left side as well for the left-right movement but you kinda ran outta space sooo >< - made it a blanket as requested, but if shit goes down with this fix im reverting

01:11:715 (6) - could also be kick slider. Sounds rhythmically better this way imo - applied

01:28:303 (2,1,2) - Maybe have these be more triangle'd - naww

Reditum wrote:

NICE

Insane:
00:10:832 (2) - why this overlap ew - ok dad
01:21:773 (5) - the only reason I point this out is because the rest of the map really doesn't have crazy jumps like this so it's just out of place in this context. - made it less "wtf" and more "ez"

Hard:
fine - dank

Advanced:
nice - same

Normal:
normal - same

map is mostly fine get it bubbled lol - this would be the place where bns would bubble my map. IF THEY WERE WILLING

Reditum wrote:

NICE

ExtrA:
00:12:597 (3,4,1) - but why this spacing because it was expressed to me that the beat on 1 is weak so i created spacing to reflect it.
01:06:773 (1) - remove clap B). Apply to all similar patterns like the normalclap just doesn't sound good in the context in which you're using it. gotcha boi

map is mostly fine get it bubbled lol

Reditum wrote:

map is mostly fine get it bubbled lol

Reditum wrote:

map is mostly fine get it bubbled lol

Reditum wrote:

map is mostly fine get it bubbled lol

Battle wrote:

kd 14 days later

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

pleb lazy short mod

[general]
audio preview time conflict - god dammit xexxar

[normal]
00:00:509 (1,1) - dude only 1 white tick long is too short for the recovering time - if bn tells me that its too long, im taking it out.
00:08:891 (1,2,1) - though it's pretty calm but that density and stack make this part quite boring tbh, probably make a reverse on the first slider. (don't try to do piano only, that's not the main point of this song plz) - no.
00:19:303 (2,3) - make some curve ayy - ok dad mom son granddad brother.

[advanced]
00:19:832 (3,1,3) - they are stacked on the same place but not a constant beat. that's hard to read in this AR. - made it more noob friendly

[hard]
00:51:420 (2,4) - actually i don't think this overlap is needed, and 00:51:068 (4,1,2) - this DS change feels forced. maybe move it down, and nothing will be blocked. - made it less crowded
01:28:656 (1,2) - my taste is kinda different, i think the distance between these two can be increased for a grand finisher. - this is plenty wide

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[wtf is prologue]
00:46:656 (5) - move it upper right so the DS won't be too strict - i tried

[]
told you im lazy

1. OD 8 > 8.5?
2. CS 4.2 > 4?
3. So I think you need to be a bit more strategic in the way you follow each instrument. In quite a few places you have slider ends hitting strong vocal and piano and you also have circles in places where a slider would be more fitting. Here goes a quick rundown for the first 10 seconds of what instrument your following to get into the mindset of breaking down this TV size.
   
   What Instrument are you Following?

   1. 00:03:244 (1) - Piano
   2. 00:03:597 (2) - Voocal
   3. 00:04:832 (2,3) - Nothing
   4. 00:05:362 (5,6,7,8) - Piano
   5. 00:06:068 (1,2) - Vocals
   6. 00:08:891 (1,2,3,4) - Presumably vocals, though the 2,3 seem unnecessary for a held note on a slow portion of the song.
   7. 00:13:479 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Piano again.
4. 00:04:479 (1) - The strong note on the slider end should be clickable. You should also probably follow the NC'ing of the piano rather than the vocals, as the vocals NC's are really inconsistent.
5. 00:05:362 (5,6,7,8,1) - Spacing is way too high for such a slow and gentle part of the song.
6. 00:09:950 (1) - You have a really strong vocal that needs to be clickable on this slider-end.
7. 00:13:479 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - The spacing increase here is fine because it helps emulate the piano getting louder/higher and its also right before where the song gets more intense (though its never an intense song in a literal sense).
8. 00:15:597 (2,3,1) - This is just a really awkward series of jumps to play at 170 BPM. It'd be better at a higher BPM in my opinion, but for your intended audience I feel like this is a bit clunky.
9. 00:20:715 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is a cancerous jump sequence to play. I recommend something more like this and this.
10. 00:23:185 (2,3) - This jump is really forced an unnecessarily large. The sliders also look really clunky and very shotty.
11. 00:24:244 (4) - Why not just blanket this on 00:22:479 (4) - that?
12. 00:24:950 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - While the pattern itself is fine, the DS increase is not. I don't hear anything in the music that can justify me jumping that far by the end of the triple string notes.
13. 00:26:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream actually goes down entirely to the next slider (00:27:244 (1) - ) rather than the way you have mapped it. On the hardest difficulty, I think its good to map out all the sounds that you are typically following, so this should be no exception. I'd also like to note that I think it makes more sense to make this entire thing a stream rather than a "pp" triplet+slier jump.
14. The section starting here 00:27:244 (1) - and ending here 00:37:126 (6) - .
    
    1. Just some general points since I don't feel like nitpicking through this part. Back to the part at the beginning where we talked about following things oddly, this section is the embodiment of following piano/vocals in the wrong way. You should structure this so that you can click the big white tick on every measure because its the start of a new musical section. That not only will help separate the pattern a bit for the player (subconsciously) but it'll also make your map more structural.
    2. DS is a bit weird throughout this section as well, in places where I feel like there should be no jumps you put moderate jumps, for example 00:27:773 (2,3) - I feel should be stacked, as the piano and the vocal is a prolonged note. I feel like having them stacked would better emphasize that. You also have quite a few places with similar notes/rhythms but completely different DS for no apparent reason other than difficulty.
    3. In this section, you don't blanket a lot at all, I recommend doing that more because blankets make things just neater overall. (Neat as in clean, not neat as in cool.)
15. Everything after that section pretty much has the same issues as the first bits, so I won't be redundant. and take the time to mod it when you're probably gonna deny everthing

CrypticMech wrote:

Modding to try and help Anxient out a bit

[Xexxar's Epilogue]

1. OD 8 > 8.5? if anxient wants to change this sure but otherwise it doesnt really matter. BPM and top difficulty status justify the OD level.
2. CS 4.2 > 4? map was created with cs 4.2 in mind as its the bets CS so I'll be keeping this. CS 4 is not required.
3. So I think you need to be a bit more strategic in the way you follow each instrument. In quite a few places you have slider ends hitting strong vocal and piano and you also have circles in places where a slider would be more fitting. Here goes a quick rundown for the first 10 seconds of what instrument your following to get into the mindset of breaking down this TV size. there isn't an inhibition of rhythmic design that requires me to pay heedence to one and only instrument in a song. My style of mapping maps to the song as a whole. This isn't guitar hero after all. If there's any specific problem with how I value my beats, please let me know, but I will justify a few notes and their purpose.
   
   What Instrument are you Following?

   1. 00:03:244 (1) - Piano Strong beat for this note is the first note in the song outside of vocals and therefore takes priority.
   2. 00:03:597 (2) - Vocal vocals are PRIMARILY the #1 focus of a song as it is the melody of the song.
   3. 00:04:832 (2,3) - Nothing there is a guitar in the background here, spacing is low for the sake of weakness and low volume of the guitar.
   4. 00:05:362 (5,6,7,8) - Piano with the lack of vocals in this section, the priority rests upon the piano to carry the rift to the next measure. Increases in spacing are based off raises in pitch and overall intensity. Additionally the pattern here is visual consistent for why it's spaced so highly.
   5. 00:06:068 (1,2) - Vocals vocals are PRIMARILY the #1 focus of a song as it is the melody of the song.
   6. 00:08:891 (1,2,3,4) - Presumably vocals, though the 2,3 seem unnecessary for a held note on a slow portion of the song. the purpose of the 2-3 are to help capture the vibrato in her voice, the pattern of the notes reflect this intention.
   7. 00:13:479 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Piano again. dominant instrument in this section.
4. 00:04:479 (1) - The strong note on the slider end should be clickable. You should also probably follow the NC'ing of the piano rather than the vocals, as the vocals NC's are really inconsistent. the slider head follows the singer's voice through into the downbeat. This allows for the slider to be released on a downbeat, which can also be a satisfying way to play a beat, especially with the singer on the red tick.
5. 00:05:362 (5,6,7,8,1) - Spacing is way too high for such a slow and gentle part of the song. this is really not that hard to hit, the notes are simply in logical places to create a triangular pattern to capture the rhythm of the piano. the piano's quite high pitch therefore I feel this spacing is justified.
6. 00:09:950 (1) - You have a really strong vocal that needs to be clickable on this slider-end. not necessary as the song is very calm and slow during this section. This design gives a weightless feeling to the pure vocals that the singer has during this part (no vibrato like before) so no spacing and no note to help capture this feeling
7. 00:13:479 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - The spacing increase here is fine because it helps emulate the piano getting louder/higher and its also right before where the song gets more intense (though its never an intense song in a literal sense). thank you for the compliment
8. 00:15:597 (2,3,1) - This is just a really awkward series of jumps to play at 170 BPM. It'd be better at a higher BPM in my opinion, but for your intended audience I feel like this is a bit clunky. what is wrong with it? the fact that i used 1/4th? the fact of its spacing, angles? i dont understand, it plays fine to me
9. 00:20:715 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is a cancerous jump sequence to play. I recommend something more like this and this. the pattern is fine, 00:20:891 (4) - is a strong beat, worthy of improved spacing, which the triplet into 1/4th stream plays fine with. I don't see the purpose in reducing spacing like you've done as it simply just makes things more clumped together and overlapping.
10. 00:23:185 (2,3) - This jump is really forced an unnecessarily large. The sliders also look really clunky and very shotty. slow 1/1 sliders having large spacing is fine since the emphais on 3 is intended. Additionally these types of notes are very easy to play at this difficulty since most players don't follow them through 100%. as for the shape 3 blankets the slider head of 2 so i dont see anything wrong with its visuals.
11. 00:24:244 (4) - Why not just blanket this on 00:22:479 (4) - that? I mean I guess but this isn't really that necessary since it's so delayed in the past.
12. 00:24:950 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - While the pattern itself is fine, the DS increase is not. I don't hear anything in the music that can justify me jumping that far by the end of the triple string notes. the song is reaching a mini climax before calming down, the spacing has no problem with it's sense of increase. If you wish I can raise the spacing of the second triangle to be more gradual, but I didnt in this case due to the layout of my circles and visual constraints.
13. 00:26:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream actually goes down entirely to the next slider (00:27:244 (1) - ) rather than the way you have mapped it. On the hardest difficulty, I think its good to map out all the sounds that you are typically following, so this should be no exception. I'd also like to note that I think it makes more sense to make this entire thing a stream rather than a "pp" triplet+slier jump. cool because everything that is a triplet is "pp". literally disgusting, the rhythm here is very emphasized on 123 and alot weaker as the stream goes through. I avoided creating an entire stream because I felt that there was more of a burst of speed in the instrument rather than a continuous 1/4th presense.
14. The section starting here 00:27:244 (1) - and ending here 00:3 7:126 (6) - .
    
    1. Just some general points since I don't feel like nitpicking through this part. Back to the part at the beginning where we talked about following things oddly, this section is the embodiment of following piano/vocals in the wrong way. You should structure this so that you can click the big white tick on every measure because its the start of a new musical section. That not only will help separate the pattern a bit for the player (subconsciously) but it'll also make your map more structural. vocals are on red polarity. therefore my slider heads are on red ticks and end on white ticks because I feel the vocals are more of a dominant factor than the piano. This plays well especially with my use of 1/1 pauses that actually allow for alot greater emphasis on the white tick than it may be accredited given that I am not placing circles on the downbeat. Regardless, not necessary as the rhythm is consistent and plays fine.
    2. DS is a bit weird throughout this section as well, in places where I feel like there should be no jumps you put moderate jumps, for example 00:27:773 (2,3) - I feel should be stacked, as the piano and the vocal is a prolonged note. I feel like having them stacked would better emphasize that. You also have quite a few places with similar notes/rhythms but completely different DS for no apparent reason other than difficulty. If you're worried about the somewhat irregular utilization of spacing on these specific 1/1 pauses I can adjust this. I didn't overlap because I overlap on the downbeat and it would be too much overlap to fit hte song (as it would feel a lot more rigid and constrained. )
    3. In this section, you don't blanket a lot at all, I recommend doing that more because blankets make things just neater overall. (Neat as in clean, not neat as in cool.) there are very few instances where blanketing during this section makes sense. Blanketing requires object proximity to be high enough to warrant such an existance. for anywhere were such a pattern fit I did use a blanket so I don't see what the complaint is.
15. Everything after that section pretty much has the same issues as the first bits, so I won't be redundant. and take the time to mod it when you're probably gonna deny everthing awwwwwww shucks look at that...

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Good luck on the mapset Anxient.

Anxient wrote:

double reply. i dont care.

Xexxar's Epilogue
00:09:068 (2,3) - there are no beats here. remove them. you used the correct rhythm in 00:09:950 (1,2,3) - so i expect you to do the same for that one. I talked to you about this, there are beats here, I feel that, even though they're weak beats, the low spacing fits their low volume and the clickableness of them matches the feel well.
00:21:068 (5,6,7,8) - cursor speed change imo is way too drastic. this is what i did http://puu.sh/ncrqR/15f6ac45e7.jpg i dont really think that this change is that drastic. By making the triplet not stacked it makes it so that they speed actually changes more. By keeping it stacked its a stopped point for the cursor, otherwise you have to adjust your aim an additional time to fit the speed of the off stack triplet.
00:23:185 (2,3) - dont you think that the distance here is too wide? I brought this up earlier, the slider leniancy here makes it so that this isn't that difficult to play, especially because the low note density.
00:30:420 (1) - overmap nein note exists. quiet bass clef of piano
00:36:950 (5,6) - ctrl g'ing this would make more sense to me because 00:36:950 (5) - this doesnt need alot of spacing to work with. emphasis not powerful enough. 00:37:126 (6) - this on the other hand has emphasis, so ctrl g these two. if youre worried about the stack in 00:38:009 (1) - dont be. youve been doing non-stacks in the diff for quite a while now. I wanted to make 5 have a sharp angle jump onto 6 to make the acceleration moving to 6 greater. Plus this does disrupt the overlap. I'll consider it but I don't really think it's problematic as is.

00:45:068 (4,5) - ctrl g this so that 4 is in the bottom and 5 is in the top. 4 has less emphasis that 5 coz unlike 5, it only has vocal emphasis rather than 5, which has instrumental emphasis and vocal emphasis. fix any spacing and flow issues that may occur from this change. vocal emphasis is there and I want to focus it with two jumps.
00:46:832 (5) - overmap. make it a regular hitcircle. equalize the DS between 00:46:126 (3,4,5) - while youre at it. applied, I kinda interpretated that one to begin with.


00:52:568 - silence sliderend applied

01:04:479 (3,4) - lower distance spacing. no emphasis on 4, just use regular DS. http://puu.sh/ncsPY/3cb6d591df.jpg theres no need to emphasize the 5 more than you need to. I actually really appreciate this one, thanks
01:07:656 - map this beat lol. just stack it to 01:08:185 (2) - and it should be a ok. focus is vocals, pauses are intentional for emphasis.
01:09:068 - this as well. ^
01:09:244 (1) - get rid of the finish hitsound you dont need it. theres nothing in the song that suggests a finish hitsound. 01:09:597 - place it here instead. goooood catch, much better.

im prepared to have this 75% declined.

Glyphic wrote:

on xexxar's epilogue i noticed that 00:46:656 (4) - was not perfectly snapped under the beginning of 00:45:597 (1) -
really minor but if it matters theres that

Xexxar wrote:

You can go ahead and adjust that for me. Thx Anxient.

1. Prologue Insane is considered a custom name since it's no regular difficulty name. And since only the highest difficulty of a set may have one, this is unrankable. Just name it Insane.
2. Video on Xexxar's Diff missing.

1. 00:00:509 (1,1) - Leniency is too low, at least 2 beats are necessary. Extend the spinner to 00:03:244 -
2. 00:08:891 (1,2,1) - Would be advisable to space these out instead of stacking them. It's just confusing for beginners compared to the previous ones at 00:03:244 (1,2,3,1) -
3. 00:29:715 (4,1) - Same here, this is hard to catch for beginners due to polarity switch.
4. 00:44:185 - Man, you're really creative with your rhythm here. You could like 00:44:185 (1,2,3) - switch the rhythm here via ctrl+g.
5. 00:49:832 (3,1) - NC switch.
6. 00:54:773 (5) - 00:51:950 (3) - 00:57:597 (4) - Having cymbals on the tails is not what I'd recommend here... try to rework this.
7. 01:13:832 (1) - Delete NC to make it uniform for this segment of the music.
8. Try to use less stacks in the easiest diff of a set even if it's a normal difficulty.

1. 00:12:420 (2) - Slider+circle here
2. 00:15:950 (2) - NC?
3. 00:53:891 (3) - Would shift this 1/2 to the left and add a circle at the current end as it follows the prominent beats better imo.
4. 00:48:068 (1,2) - 00:49:126 (1,2) - Switch NCs and delete 00:50:538 (1) - this one
5. 00:55:832 (6,1) - Switch NC
6. 00:58:303 (4,1) - ^

1. 00:11:362 (1,2) - NC switch and delete 00:12:597 (1) - this one.
2. 01:29:009 (2) - I'd prefer 2 circles here for the cymbal at the end.
3. Neat!

1. 00:04:656 (3,1) - 00:06:068 (6,1) - 00:30:068 (7,1) - 00:35:362 (1,2) - NC switch.
2. 00:26:891 (3,4) - As 00:26:538 (1,2) - follow strings I feel these should be kicksliders too.
3. 00:29:009 (2,3) - Missing the motion for this one, 3 needs better emphasis.

1. 00:09:420 (4) - Extend by 1/2 would fit better to the main vocal.
2. 00:26:891 (4,5) - As this combo seems to represent the violin strings, these should be 1/4 sliders as well.
3. 00:30:420 (1,2) - Don't make such huge jumps in a calm section of a song.
4. 00:35:538 (5,1) - Feels overly spaced as well when you compare it to 00:36:950 (5,6) - which has a stronger emphasis.
5. 00:33:420 (2,3) - This spacing's pretty confusing considering 00:33:244 (1,2) - is of equal distance
6. 00:55:303 (1) - Circle+slider here please, there's certainly a cymbal on that offbeat and you do not want a slidertail go over it.
7. Okay. Calmer sections could be represented better by lowering the spacing on your jumps at them.

Pho wrote:

Bold: Fix quickly/unrankable issues
Purple: Questionable
Red: Highly recommend

[General]

1. Video on Xexxar's Diff missing. applied

[Xexxar]

1. 00:09:420 (4) - Extend by 1/2 would fit better to the main vocal. I REALLY dont like this but if you desire it I will keep it. Applied but I dont like it
2. 00:26:891 (4,5) - As this combo seems to represent the violin strings, these should be 1/4 sliders as well. I dont agree here, the violin has much more intensity at the start with the triplet and dies down quickly. thats why it goes from 1/4th to 1/4th slider to 1/2 notes
3. 00:30:420 (1,2) - Don't make such huge jumps in a calm section of a song. cleaned up
4. 00:35:538 (5,1) - Feels overly spaced as well when you compare it to 00:36:950 (5,6) - which has a stronger emphasis. changed
5. 00:33:420 (2,3) - This spacing's pretty confusing considering 00:33:244 (1,2) - is of equal distance applied
6. 00:55:303 (1) - Circle+slider here please, there's certainly a cymbal on that offbeat and you do not want a slidertail go over it. applied
7. Okay. Calmer sections could be represented better by lowering the spacing on your jumps at them. I think with some altering that I have done thanks to your suggestions, most overdone jumps in the slower parts have been fixed. If you see anything else let me know.

Not bad, I liked the lower difficulties in this set. Call me back when you think it's ready (metadata conf. would be nice too, i'm not good at these)

Pho wrote:

Bold: Fix quickly/unrankable issues
Purple: Questionable
Red: Highly recommend

[General]

1. Prologue Insane is considered a custom name since it's no regular difficulty name. And since only the highest difficulty of a set may have one, this is unrankable. Just name it Insane. - oh.
2. Video on Xexxar's Diff missing. - OH.

[Normal]

1. 00:00:509 (1,1) - Leniency is too low, at least 2 beats are necessary. Extend the spinner to 00:03:244 - - gotcha.
2. 00:08:891 (1,2,1) - Would be advisable to space these out instead of stacking them. It's just confusing for beginners compared to the previous ones at 00:03:244 (1,2,3,1) - - gotcha
3. 00:29:715 (4,1) - Same here, this is hard to catch for beginners due to polarity switch. - i decided to something similar to 00:32:009 (2,1) - since you didnt write anything about it.
4. 00:44:185 - Man, you're really creative with your rhythm here. You could like 00:44:185 (1,2,3) - switch the rhythm here via ctrl+g. - i was told to put consistency or whatever. i guess ill switch the rhythm up a bit.
5. 00:49:832 (3,1) - NC switch. - gotcha fam
6. 00:54:773 (5) - 00:51:950 (3) - 00:57:597 (4) - Having cymbals on the tails is not what I'd recommend here... try to rework this. - remapped
7. 01:13:832 (1) - Delete NC to make it uniform for this segment of the music. - gotcha
8. Try to use less stacks in the easiest diff of a set even if it's a normal difficulty. - i didnt use stacks for the remapping

[Advanced]

1. 00:12:420 (2) - Slider+circle here - ok
2. 00:15:950 (2) - NC? - ok
3. 00:53:891 (3) - Would shift this 1/2 to the left and add a circle at the current end as it follows the prominent beats better imo. - nng i think its fine as it is atm
4. 00:48:068 (1,2) - 00:49:126 (1,2) - Switch NCs and delete 00:50:538 (1) - this one
5. 00:55:832 (6,1) - Switch NC - gotcha
6. 00:58:303 (4,1) - ^ - applied

[Hard]

1. 00:11:362 (1,2) - NC switch and delete 00:12:597 (1) - this one. - switched the NC and continued the combo for (1)
2. 01:29:009 (2) - I'd prefer 2 circles here for the cymbal at the end. - gotcha.
3. Neat! - tanks

[Insane]

1. 00:04:656 (3,1) - 00:06:068 (6,1) - 00:30:068 (7,1) - 00:35:362 (1,2) - NC switch. - applied
2. 00:26:891 (3,4) - As 00:26:538 (1,2) - follow strings I feel these should be kicksliders too. - not applied. i dont think itll suit the song lol ;a;
3. 00:29:009 (2,3) - Missing the motion for this one, 3 needs better emphasis. - i tried.

Not bad, I liked the lower difficulties in this set. Call me back when you think it's ready (metadata conf. would be nice too, i'm not good at these)

metadata confirmation

source: http://www.monogatari-series.com/owarimonogatari/music/


source: http://www.takigawaalisa.com/disco/archive/?SECL-1812

N0thingSpecial wrote:

OMG HAVE MY KUDOSU WHEN I GET ONE

<3 MONOGATARI

==metadata==

==god tier naziing==

PERFECT

22:59 -M4x: you want testplay right?
23:00 Anxient: yep
23:00 -M4x: aight
23:00 -M4x: which diff?
23:00 Anxient: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/883126 or https://osu.ppy.sh/s/415910
23:00 Anxient: pick your poison
23:00 *-M4x is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/901096 KISIDA KYODAN & THE AKEBOSI ROCKETS - GATE II ~Sekai wo Koete~ [Beyond the Extra]]
23:01 -M4x: LOOL
23:01 -M4x: better put NF
23:01 Anxient: :LL
23:03 -M4x: holy mother
23:03 Anxient: killer ending ;d
23:03 -M4x: yea
23:03 -M4x: wuhuu
23:03 -M4x: was fun tho
23:03 -M4x: nice flow and great pattering
23:03 Anxient: im not gonna push this map forward yet tho :l
23:05 -M4x: its like the nightmare of every pp player xD
23:05 Anxient: xD
23:05 Anxient: but i dont map for pp? .-.
23:05 -M4x: great work tho
23:05 Anxient: yeah i wont push this map YET tho :l
23:05 Anxient: not until i get sayonara no yukue ranked
23:06 -M4x: uuuh
23:08 -M4x: rip
23:08 Anxient: LOOOL
23:08 -M4x: well i said i like the map before
23:08 -M4x: i definatly LOVE this one
23:08 Anxient: oh
23:09 Anxient: so higher score than gate 2?
23:09 -M4x: even tho i suck
23:09 Anxient: ;D
23:09 -M4x: xD
23:09 -M4x: personally i would say yes
23:09 Anxient: well youre not the first to say that lol
23:09 -M4x: i really like that cs you chose
23:09 Anxient: i find gate 2 more fun to play but aLOT of people like sayonara no yukue better lol
23:09 Anxient: cs 4.4
23:09 Anxient: ar 8.8
23:10 Anxient: od 7.7
23:10 -M4x: yea im one of those
23:10 Anxient: hp 6.6
23:10 Anxient: NICE.
23:10 -M4x: i see what you did there
23:10 -M4x: xD
23:10 Anxient: well once xxr sends me his fix, ill try pushing it agian
23:10 -M4x: if just the sr was like 4.4
23:10 Anxient: xD
23:10 Anxient: yeah it would be perfect
23:11 -M4x: i have to take a look at that ending tho
23:11 Anxient: oh the jumps on the end?
23:11 -M4x: yea
23:12 -M4x: ok
23:12 -M4x: 01:27:068 (3,4,5) - i read these as a triple
23:12 -M4x: and after that i couldnt find back into the map
23:13 Anxient: xD
23:13 Anxient: but you know why i put antijump right
23:13 -M4x: yes i do
23:13 Anxient: sweet
23:13 -M4x: but
23:14 -M4x: thttp://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4670682
23:14 -M4x: technicaly it would fit in some way
23:14 -M4x: not as good as it does now
23:14 Anxient: that would be overmapping tho :l
23:14 -M4x: but i see why i missread it
23:15 -M4x: thats right
23:15 -M4x: and i dont want you to change it
23:15 -M4x: hell no
23:16 -M4x: well whatever ^^ nice map with great flow!!
23:16 -M4x: #highquality
23:18 Anxient: \;d/
23:19 -M4x: what the heck is that \;d/ xD
23:19 -M4x: like the most derped smiley ive ever seen lol
23:19 Anxient: \:D/
23:20 Anxient: \;D/
23:20 Anxient: \;p/
23:20 -M4x: _(:3 」∠)_
23:20 -M4x: thats the only one i know ^^
23:21 -M4x: out of these pro emoijs
23:22 -M4x: yo do you think piano hitsounds would fit in this map?
23:22 *-M4x is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/858578 Feint - The Journey ft. Veela]
23:22 Anxient: keysounds?
23:22 Anxient: absolute not lol
23:23 -M4x: 05:12:771 (1) -
23:23 -M4x: from here on
23:25 Anxient: ok gimme a moment
23:25 Anxient: im super obsessed with making this perfect rn xd
23:26 -M4x: you mean the part i failed?
23:27 Anxient: 01:27:420 (5,7,2) - making this a perfect http://puu.sh/nwWw6/5c3686e60b.jpg triangle
23:27 Anxient: 01:28:126 (1,2,1,2) - realligning them http://puu.sh/nwWxo/b654f38a0a.jpg
23:29 -M4x: o
23:30 Anxient: ok im done
23:30 -M4x: no modder saw that before?
23:30 Anxient: i wouldnt be surprised
23:30 Anxient: coz im like
23:31 Anxient: super sensitive when it comes to these sorta things
23:31 -M4x: ok i think i have another one then
23:31 Anxient: btw
23:31 -M4x: 00:26:538 (1,2,3) -
23:31 Anxient: drain time must be 5 mins+ if you want single diff
23:31 -M4x: yea feelsbadman
23:33 -M4x: 00:31:479 (1,2,3) - this one too i think
23:33 Anxient: fixed http://puu.sh/nwWPL/86a687801b.jpg
23:35 -M4x: well but thats naziing at its finest
23:36 Anxient: LOL
23:36 -M4x: 00:49:479 (7,8,1) -
23:36 Anxient: perfected http://puu.sh/nwWX4/6fb73dd118.jpg
23:36 Anxient: oh i can confirm that that one is fine
23:36 -M4x: nahhh
23:36 Anxient: uh
23:36 -M4x: do the 240 thing
23:37 Anxient: nah
23:37 -M4x: 00:56:185 (3,4,1) - what is that :OOOOO
23:37 Anxient: naw seems fine to me
23:37 -M4x: its not a triangle xD
23:37 Anxient: LOL
23:37 -M4x: wait
23:38 -M4x: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4670829
23:38 -M4x: confirmed?
23:38 -M4x: i dont think so xD
23:39 -M4x: this one too 01:01:479 (2,3,4) -
23:41 -M4x: aaaaaand this one 01:15:244 (1,3,7) - ^^
23:41 Anxient: http://puu.sh/nwXf2/87685e1ce3.jpg
23:41 Anxient: oh my god xD
23:42 Anxient: 00:54:773 (5,6,1) - im sacrificing this
23:42 Anxient: im not doing those two
23:42 Anxient: the 1st one i personally checked them
23:42 Anxient: and the 2nd is too far apart to be relevant
23:44 Anxient: this is some god tier naziing tho :l
23:44 Anxient: anything else?
23:44 -M4x: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4670862
23:44 -M4x: xD
23:45 Anxient: naw i think theyre fine
23:45 Anxient: i personally checked them
23:45 -M4x: OKOKK
23:45 Anxient: lOL
23:45 Anxient: okay im updating
23:45 Anxient: is this even worth kds?
23:45 -M4x: but thats all i found
23:45 Anxient: xD
23:45 -M4x: NO
23:46 Anxient: LMAOOOO
23:46 -M4x: it isnt
23:46 Anxient: well have you tried playing xxr's epilogue yet?
23:46 -M4x: not yet
23:46 -M4x: GD's
23:46 Anxient: xd
23:48 -M4x: oh gawd
23:48 Anxient: o-o
23:48 -M4x: lot of triangles
23:48 Anxient: LOL XD
23:48 -M4x: lets adolf them
23:49 Anxient: anyway xxr will be sending me with a fixed version of his diff very soon
23:49 -M4x: ok
23:49 -M4x: thats nice
23:49 Anxient: yeah
23:49 Anxient: good night o/
23:49 -M4x: yea cya

1. Still missing video...
2. 00:33:950 (4,5) - Well you fixed the previous spacing somehow so it's easier to read, but now this is a jump that doesn't complement the music since 5 is no emphasized vocal beat. Make the spacing equal:
3. 00:35:185 (3) - Forgot to mention last time, this beat shouldn't really be clicked, it's just the vocalist holding breath for the next note. So just delete this object or make 00:34:832 (2) - a 1/1 slider for the vocal.
   
   SPOILER

   

Pho wrote:

Some final mentions:

-0.2OD and -0.1HP on the Insane for cleaner setting spread. These decimals don't do anything noticeable in gameplay. - can i keep them pls

[Xexxar]

1. Still missing video... - added. i swear to god fffffffffffff

Pho wrote:

k

Kroytz wrote:

Placeholding wallmod concerning a particular diff.

Haruto wrote:

Tuhkan bener Karen mau rank mapnya kaka owo
Grats Anx-san owo

Kroytz wrote:

~

mod

Gratz on Beatmap #2! - thank [color=transparent Now stop ranking maps before me :Vcolor] - shut up and rank ascension to heaven

o/

1. 00:26:891 (2,3,4,5) - please tone down 1/4s here, it feels overdone and does not work with the difficulty context. Besides, the Insane difficulty has a easier pattern at this moment of the song, which makes this pattern feel overdone here.

Bakari wrote:

Greetings, just one thing we have to consider before this goes forward.

[Hard]

1. 00:26:891 (2,3,4,5) - please tone down 1/4s here, it feels overdone and does not work with the difficulty context. Besides, the Insane difficulty has a easier pattern at this moment of the song, which makes this pattern feel overdone here. - turned to a 1/2 slider and due to paranoia, i changed the double in the kiai to DS 0.8x
   

Feel free to get back to the qualifying BNs afer changes. In case you won't be able to conact them, ask me to bubble or re-qualify.