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Lami

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lami 2016-02-15T17:13:43+00:00

eINess wrote:
[Princess]
00:03:717 (6,1) - 차라리 00:03:717 - 여기에 서클 하나 00:03:854 - 여기부터 1/2 슬라 하나가 더 좋을탠데... 뭘 따라가는지 모르겠음 드럼도없는데 더군다나 전 이박자에 대해 꽤나 괜찮다고 생각함요... 멜로디 따른거에요 여기 뉴콤을 주기로 멜로디가 바껴요 그래서 keep
00:08:120 (6,1) - 마찬가지
00:45:964 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 이것도 앞에 00:45:689 (5,6,1) - 애들처럼 늘어놓아주면 참 좋을거같네여 아니면 점점 DS 줄어드는 방식도 좋고
k
00:50:093 (2,3) - 이거는 3연타가 더 나을듯 pp맵 만들어야지 라는 의도로 보이네여. 팔로우포인트도 확꺽이는게 노래랑 어울리는지도 모르겠고 저는 일단 이렇게 안둠. 너무 튀어서 여기만
맨첨에 3연타 해봤는데 플레이감이 정말 안좋아여.. 3연타로 끊으면 뭔가 패턴 치다 말은 느낌이남
아니면 차라리 00:50:230 (3) - 이거를 감속 슬라로 만들어서 00:50:712 - 여기서 끝나도록 해주면 재밌을듯 노래라도 어울리고 앞에 1/4슬라랑도어울리고
00:54:634 (3,4) - 여거2개는 DS 더 늘려야 노래가 강조되야될 부분에 맞게 강조되는거라고 봅니다. 최소한 00:53:808 (2,3,4,5,6) - 여기 구간들보다는 커야 노래랑 맞아요k
01:17:203 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - 이게 더 좋아 보임 http://puu.sh/n8TuI/0a7d6b204a.jpg 조금 바꿈
노래안에서 여러 파트들을 강약은 잘 주시면서 매핑했는데 왜 파트 안에서의 강약은 없는거죠? 특히 키아이 ㄹㅇpp맵?!?!?
[Expert]
솔직히 말해서 너무 티나여 최고난이도꺼 배껴온듯한 느낌이... 사실 하위찍기 귀찮앗음..
00:03:717 (6,1) - 최고난이도에서도 언급했던거랑 똑같음 물론 00:08:120 (6,1) - 이쪽도
00:22:157 (3,4,1) - 이건 DS 만 놓고보면 00:22:157 (3,4) - 이 비트스냅이랑 00:22:295 (4,1) - 이 비트스냅이랑 똑같아 보임 ㄹㅇf
00:22:295 (4,1) - 이거 2개를 늘리던지 그냥 확 붙여버리던지 둘중 하나 어떻게든 조정해주시는게 좋을듯
00:54:634 (3,4) - 최고난이도랑 마.찬.가.지 좀 늘려주셈 강약 어디감? 배고파서 드심?fix
[Hard]
00:03:717 (5,1) - 00:08:120 (5,1) - 여거 2마리는 말 안해도 아실꺼라고 생각함
[normal]
00:43:075 (2,3,4,5,1) - 이상하네 제가 이 리듬 드림? 이렇게 열차되게 드렸을리가 없는데.. 뭐지? 00:44:588 (5) - 이거라도 지워버리셈 열차 방지로
저 기억이 잘 안남..
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Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2016-02-16T05:21:09+00:00

Hi.

[General]

Offset is wrong. It's common for fast and energetic songs like this to start the phrase on the preceding 1/2 beat, because it makes it feel more exciting. Be careful of this; correct offset is 1790. If you listen to the song, you will hear the main drum beats other than the start of the phrase should fall on white tick.
Include Princess Sugar in tags? They are the developers of this game. This will also cover princess which is part of translated title of the game (PRINCESS LOVE LIFE!)

[Easy]

00:37:019 (3,4,1) - Flow here is awkward. The player has to move their cursor in an S-shape which feels unnatural. It would feel better this way: http://puu.sh/n9Gp5/b001f72710.jpg

[Normal]

00:02:341 (2) - It may be nice to curve it like this: http://puu.sh/n9H7p/e6fdedc22b.jpg I think that it's nice to complement curve vs. straight slider, so if you have 1/1 straight slider, use curved 1/2 repeat before, and if you have 1/1 curved slider, use straight 1/2 repeat before. Just an idea for design of the map. So also at similar places like 00:17:753 (6) and 00:40:047 (4)
01:17:203 (6,1) - I think it flows better this way: http://puu.sh/n9Hmc/3489f28ef3.jpg I noticed similar kind of flow with other parts circle->1/2 repeat slider like 00:22:570 (1,2,3) and 00:24:084 (5,6) and many other parts where you use drop-off flow. I think it plays much nicer if you make the flow smooth from the circle to slider, and it's easy to change direction after the repeat slider, because the player's movement will have slowed down. For example, 00:24:359 (6) can be like this: http://puu.sh/n9HuN/1bcb539b97.jpg By doing it this way, flow is more comfortable.

[Princess]

01:00:964 (5,6,7,1) - In my opinion, this kind of jump to stacked triple breaks the flow, because the player has to suddenly stop their cursor in the middle of a straight flow. Compare with things like 00:57:111 (3,4,5,6) which is ok because the player is already changing direction; it's part of the natural movement. Maybe you can find some way to make this one feel more natural to play.

Everything else is fine.

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lami 2016-02-16T07:28:28+00:00

Little wrote:
Hi.

[Princess]
01:00:964 (5,6,7,1) - In my opinion, this kind of jump to stacked triple breaks the flow, because the player has to suddenly stop their cursor in the middle of a straight flow. Compare with things like 00:57:111 (3,4,5,6) which is ok because the player is already changing direction; it's part of the natural movement. Maybe you can find some way to make this one feel more natural to play.
thanks for your opinion, but it's still prefer mine cuz it don't break flow feeling as 01:00:964 (5,6) - have big jump. :3

Everything else is fine.

other thing is fixed

thanks

Silky

766 posts

Joined October 2014

Silky 2016-02-17T09:23:06+00:00

@Rumia- there have snare...
@novotrixes nah, thats looks bad. and not good flow
@eINess first one: umm... this rhythm is 4-3 imo... and I want to follow this in 2 sliders...
last one: really lazy to fix qwq
thanks for mod

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Title:Toaru Shoukoku no Ohimesama ga...
TitleUnicode:とある小国のお姫様が...
Artist:nao
ArtistUnicode:nao
Creator:Lami
Version:fyy's Insane
Source:姫様ＬＯＶＥライフ！
Tags:intoon fuyuyu- Demetori Himesama Love Life Eroge Opening Atta koto mo nai Ani no Ie ni Yattekite Sumitsuita Jijou 会ったこともない兄の家にやってきて住みついた事情 Princess Sugar
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Cherry Blossom

3,185 posts

Joined October 2011

Cherry Blossom 2016-02-22T17:16:29+00:00

Hello
May be ready to me, just rechecking things.

Just one thing, in Princess diff :
- 00:45:689 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the different distance between each triple makes the whole pattern weird and uncomfortable to play, it could be better if there is the same distance between 00:45:827 (1,2) - and 00:46:102 (4,5) - , i mean if you keep them consistent.

And another thing, is metadata confirmed ?
Call me back.

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lami 2016-02-22T18:30:00+00:00

yea, fixed.
i guess it's better than previous thing.

about metadata. i have to use omitted title in this case as really long title.
for unnecessery DQ, i already discussed with KSHR and Kwan. in management forum (p/4860525).
i write this in creator comment, for clear metadata.
i think it's confirmed.

Cherry Blossom

3,185 posts

Joined October 2011

Cherry Blossom 2016-02-23T10:18:11+00:00

Okay that should be fine now.
Bubbled.

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lami 2016-02-23T10:40:22+00:00

thanks :>

BeatofIke

4,166 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2016-03-03T03:18:33+00:00

We only did a very minor fix on the mapset.
Good luck for ranking~

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lami 2016-03-03T03:20:39+00:00

Hype :3

thanks so much

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Underforest 2016-03-03T03:23:41+00:00

Congrats Lumi-san, fuyuyuyuyuuy : D D D D

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Silky

766 posts

Joined October 2014

Silky 2016-03-03T04:18:57+00:00

gratz!

Ujimatsu Chiya

2,480 posts

Joined December 2013

Ujimatsu Chiya 2016-03-03T04:54:13+00:00

히익! 경찰아저씨 여기에요 여기!! 로리콘이있어요!!

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Underforest 2016-03-03T06:02:43+00:00

Mapping is fine, but BG feels weird...

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,307 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2016-03-03T06:33:35+00:00

At least use a 4:3 background if 16:9 doesn't fit with....
The squeezed faces aren't looking good at all

4:3

Lami

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Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lami 2016-03-03T06:57:12+00:00

Oh..... x_x
I will check when im home
Maybe after 1 hours

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2016-03-03T07:00:55+00:00

I was ready for this to be qualified. Didn't really see much problems when trying to mod in. Thanks for the queue request tho

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-03-03T11:58:34+00:00

Chaoslitz wrote:
At least use a 4:3 background if 16:9 doesn't fit with....
The squeezed faces aren't looking good at all

4:3

lmao

riffy

osu! Alumni

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Joined December 2010

riffy 2016-03-03T12:10:22+00:00

Please, fix the background.

While we are at it, I'd recommend to rename Easy to Normal and Normal to Advanced. The difficulty levels are relatively high due to the BPM of the song.

Konomi_old_1

Konomi_old_1 2016-03-03T12:16:06+00:00

Chaoslitz wrote:
At least use a 4:3 background if 16:9 doesn't fit with....
The squeezed faces aren't looking good at all

4:3

Chaos so nice

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

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IamKwaN 2016-03-03T12:46:04+00:00

Princess and Expert look so similar, let's not.

hehe

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Joined November 2012

hehe 2016-03-03T12:55:48+00:00

hi! some suggestions to make princess feel a little more different and playable.

penis
00:03:716 (6,1) - you can change this here, since the red tick on 6's is definitely the dominant sound but it's on a sliderend. i recommend this http://i.imgur.com/mL7H9DM.png same for the rest, kiai too
00:05:367 (2) - this should definitely be 2 circles, it feels like undermapping for a top diff here. same for the rest, kiai too
00:19:267 (6,1) - swap nc
00:27:661 (1) - nc here gives a nice effect of buildup
00:49:129 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - consider rotating these slightly so that there's less 'slowdown' movement https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4648995
00:28:487 (5) - would be nice to have some sort of emphasis, not necessarily a streamjump but maybe a angle change or spacing change
00:59:450 (3,4,5) - same as before, i suggest angling this a bit so that 00:59:312 (2,3,4,5) - it isn't a completely straight line, its a slightly awkward slowdown motion during a really intense part. i suggest something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4648932
01:04:404 (1,2) - consider swapping NC so that the pattern is accentuated a bit better

Lami

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Lami 2016-03-03T14:39:34+00:00

"handsome"

hi! some suggestions to make princess feel a little more different and playable.

penis
00:03:716 (6,1) - you can change this here, since the red tick on 6's is definitely the dominant sound but it's on a sliderend. i recommend this http://i.imgur.com/mL7H9DM.png same for the rest, kiai too

--- i saw similar this modding before some days.... x_x
melody(? idk what to say.._.) start to diffcult in 00:03:991 - . 00:03:854 - and 00:03:991 - have different sound.
we might can find it, according to 00:04:542 (5,6,7,8,9) - five successive melody start to white tick, even if not red tick which have major rhythm in this song.
it's basicd on melody.

00:05:367 (2) - this should definitely be 2 circles, it feels like undermapping for a top diff here. same for the rest, kiai too

--- well.. i don't prefer circle mapping in high bpm intro part. already 00:03:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - . it's enough i guess.

00:19:267 (6,1) - swap nc

---for emphasis drum. 5 successive drum sound is so important in my view.

00:27:661 (1) - nc here gives a nice effect of buildup

--- im not really fan of using NC without finish or emphasis.... ;w;

00:49:129 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - consider rotating these slightly so that there's less 'slowdown' movement https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4648995

--- current flow is more natural flow....

00:28:487 (5) - would be nice to have some sort of emphasis, not necessarily a streamjump but maybe a angle change or spacing change

--- i never use some trick in below 9 stream note. ;w;

00:59:450 (3,4,5) - same as before, i suggest angling this a bit so that 00:59:312 (2,3,4,5) - it isn't a completely straight line, its a slightly awkward slowdown motion during a really intense part. i suggest something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4648932

--- oh i didn't notice that... make straight flow now. but not fix other thing.
i believe 3 wide(?) triplet make speedy flow.

01:04:404 (1,2) - consider swapping NC so that the pattern is accentuated a bit better

--- 01:04:404 (1) - have really importand finish sound.i need to make NC here.

yeah, you're right on partten. but for me, emphasis is more impoart than partten, in NC cycle, unless interrupt readability.

01:11:423 (2) - two circles, it feels a little undermapped here.

--- same

thanks for your opinion

and sorry for reject many thing, if it make you mind.

IamKwaN wrote:
Princess and Expert look so similar, let's not.

;w;w;w;w;w;w; sorry for that if you make sad.....

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Change BG now. what choas was given. thanks for support.
andfix diff name too

XII

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XII 2016-03-03T15:48:00+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
Princess and Expert look so similar, let's not.

"Look similar"

Unfortunately we play this game, we don't look at it.

And they do not play similarly enough to warrant a change if that is what you're implying.

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OmegaR

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OmegaR 2016-03-03T15:49:59+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
Princess and Expert look so similar, let's not.

Insert Monstrata meme here.

Just because they look visually similar and non-retarded, doesn't mean it's a negative, it just means they are quite well mapped and fun.

Ozato Fumika

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Ozato Fumika 2016-03-03T17:52:43+00:00

Wookiezi wrote:
Insert Monstrata meme here.

lmfao

XII wrote:
"Look similar"

Unfortunately we play this game, we don't look at it.

amen

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2016-03-04T03:08:14+00:00

Lami wrote:
;w;w;w;w;w;w; sorry for that if you make sad.....

What I mean by "look similar":

> Highest difficulty
> Create a new difficulty
> CTRL+H / CTRL+J / CTRL+ATL+S
> New difficulty

If this method of mapping to cater for the spread is approved, I am afraid it would be seen as a bad example in the community.

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2016-03-04T03:18:35+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
Lami wrote:
;w;w;w;w;w;w; sorry for that if you make sad.....
What I mean by "look similar":

> Highest difficulty
> Create a new difficulty
> CTRL+H / CTRL+J / CTRL+ATL+S
> New difficulty

If this method of mapping to cater for the spread is approved, I am afraid it would be seen as a bad example in the community.

[Sweatin']
[HardRock!]
Xd

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2016-03-04T03:23:52+00:00

Just my 2 cents

Lami

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Lami 2016-03-04T05:06:34+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
Lami wrote:
;w;w;w;w;w;w; sorry for that if you make sad.....
What I mean by "look similar":

> Highest difficulty
> Create a new difficulty
> CTRL+H / CTRL+J / CTRL+ATL+S
> New difficulty

If this method of mapping to cater for the spread is approved, I am afraid it would be seen as a bad example in the community.

i know my 2 diffs are so similar in rhythm structure.
but in 5.7 and 6.7 stars diff, it's both extra diff. i can't consider other rhythm in their diff.
if i make 5.7 and 4.7 or 3.7, they won't similar i guess...... ;w;
to be honest, i'd like to keep my style(placement) in diffculty as same mapper.
well, i may need to more adjust placement if i meet this case in the future........(when i need to make 2 extra diffs.)

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2016-03-04T14:34:53+00:00

Discussion has been cleared from in-game, so have your bubble back~

Lami

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Lami 2016-03-04T17:39:22+00:00

thanks

MouseOnly25

MouseOnly25 2016-03-05T03:52:04+00:00

Map is really nice, keep it up

Cherry Blossom

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Cherry Blossom 2016-03-05T14:00:13+00:00

Requalified.

wajinshu

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wajinshu 2016-03-05T15:16:12+00:00

Congratulations

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Flask 2016-03-05T15:53:28+00:00

owO

Ozato Fumika

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Ozato Fumika 2016-03-05T16:00:01+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
Lami wrote:
;w;w;w;w;w;w; sorry for that if you make sad.....
What I mean by "look similar":

> Highest difficulty
> Create a new difficulty
> CTRL+H / CTRL+J / CTRL+ATL+S
> New difficulty

If this method of mapping to cater for the spread is approved, I am afraid it would be seen as a bad example in the community.

he actually admitted when I pointed it out

well it's his map and his opinion :3

Len

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Len 2016-03-05T17:33:27+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
> Highest difficulty
> Create a new difficulty
> CTRL+H / CTRL+J / CTRL+ATL+S
> New difficulty

tru

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