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IDOL COLLEGE - Ichizu Recipe [Taiko|Osu]

posted 2015-11-18T12:22:36+00:00

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Tari

osu! Alumni

1,671 posts

Joined July 2012

Tari 2016-02-13T19:16:15+00:00

Yooooo

[Easy]

00:06:165 (4) - I don't like overlaps like this, maybe try to farther to the right?
01:06:165 (1) - Same problem as above
00:15:342 (1,2,3) - try forming a triangle square pattern like this : http://puu.sh/n6BHX.jpg
00:57:695 (1) - I would place it slightly down so people can see the sliderpath more clearly
01:56:989 (1) - ^ Yeah kinda like what you did here
01:18:518 (2) - turn to a slider and end at red tick? Music pauses at red tick.
02:17:459 (2) - ahhh yeah same problems here, I won't mention them but considering fixing overlaps. Certain ones like 02:22:400 (1) - look fine though.

[Normal]

Little fast paced for normal, decrease OD and AR by 1?
01:18:989 - Reduce volume here because music is softer?
02:18:165 (1) - I would remove the last reverse and add a circle :
02:35:900 - Add a spinner to accompany large pause? end at : 02:37:047

[Hard]

00:32:106 - Add a note to accompany the instrument.
00:56:989 - I would put 1/4 and 1/8 reverse slider here to make up for the lost drain
01:18:695 (1) - Any reason you ignored claps at the end?
01:49:753 (2,3,4,5) - Rhythm here is totally off. Are you following vocals or instruments?

I like it, have a star!

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-13T20:10:30+00:00

Hi, self-modded a bit.

Updated Oni

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57695
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.9
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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GridSize: 32
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[Metadata]
Title:Ichizu Recipe
TitleUnicode:イチズレシピ
Artist:IDOL COLLEGE
ArtistUnicode:アイドルカレッジ
Creator:Nathan Kiss
Version:newyams' Oni
Source:俺がお嬢様学校に『庶民サンプル』としてゲッツされた件
Tags:Shomin Sample OP Opening ore ga ojousama gakkou ni shomin sample toshite gets sareta ken newyams99 Doormat
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256,192,201872,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,202048,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,202225,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,210077,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,213165,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,213342,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,215371,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,228342,1,2,0:0:0:0:

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-02-13T21:43:02+00:00

Updated your diff newyams and I've also added you :3

I'll reply to _Exiles and tari's mod later (not too late)

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-02-13T23:21:15+00:00

Hi~

[General]

Inconsistency in PreviewTime:

Doormat's Insane : 57214
Easy : 57695
Hard : 57695
Normal : 57695

Please fix it.

Your map has some unused hitsounds:

drum-hitclap1.wav
drum-hitwhistle1.wav
drum-sliderslide1.wav
normal-hitnormal2.wav
normal-sliderslide1.wav
soft-sliderslide1.wav

Please delete them. Make sure you don't have any unused hitsounds.

I recommend you to add a kiai time on 00:15:342 - to 00:26:636 - because it has the same rhythm as other kiai time parts, just refer to Doormat's Insane.

[Hard]

The whole difficulty is not bad. For rhythm, actually you did a great job. Many places are fit the song, but sometimes you miss beats. Never mind, I will tell you where can be improved in my mod. For arrangement, still not bad in my opinion, but some places indeed need to improve. Making a good flow and good aesthetics is the most important generally.
00:04:047 (1,2) - Here you didn't blanket the objects well, but never mind, there is a easy way to make a clean blanket. First, you may see the approachcircle on circle or slider head. Then, you make a new slider to blanket them, just see the approachcircle to blanket (see my screenshot). And you can see the counter at upper right corner, this will show the objects' distance for you. When you blanket some objects, just use ctrl+G in the slider, then see the number on the counter, if the number remains the same as which it was just now, the blanket is perfect.
SPOILER
Your original pattern.

When I fixed the blanket.

The distance between the slider and the circle .

When crtl+G the slider, you can see them at the same distance spacing, then you are made a clean blanket.
00:08:812 - Don't ignore the vocal, I suggest you to change the 1/1 slider to one 1/2 slider and one circle, that will fit the song better.
00:09:165 (4,5,6) - When you change previous 1/1 slider to one 1/2 slider and one circle, here you can make a different pattern on the three circles. Something like this is more attractive.
SPOILER
00:09:695 (1,2) - I think you know how to fix it now. Make a clean for better looking.
00:09:518 (6,3) - If you pay attention for your maps' appearance, then stacking it will be better.
00:09:695 (1,4) - I suggest not overlap if you the pay attention for your maps appearance.
00:11:106 (1,2,3,4) - I see this pattern are very confusing, not beautiful, just like mapping randomly, and the flow is bad. So, I have another pattern for you, it is very simple, you can try it.
SPOILER
00:12:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - In my opinion, you can use a same distance spacing to make a clean arrangement, like regular octagon.
00:15:342 (1,3) - I suggest you to use a same slider here (just copy and paste) because now your pattern is not really clean. You can try this.
SPOILER
00:15:342 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - If you fix things mentioned above, here is a whole pattern to give you to take as reference.
SPOILER
00:18:695 (2,3) - 00:19:400 (4,5) - Make a clean blanket, for the same reason mentioned above.
00:19:400 (4) - You should NC here because you set NC on beat on every white tick, there is no reason why you don't set one NC here.
00:20:459 - You miss a beat here, I suggest you to add a circle.
00:30:165 (2,3) - In my opinion, move the circle to x:160 y:288, it will be better looking.
00:32:106 - You miss a beat here, I suggest you to add a circle, then NC 00:31:930 (5) - and move to 00:32:283 (1) - slider head. It is because it will be more attractive, pattern like this.
SPOILER
00:35:106 (1) - I suggest you to use one 1/2 slider + one circle + one 1/2 slider, it will be like this (first screenshot). The reason is it will fit in the song better. Actually 00:35:283 - and 00:35:636 - you miss beats. So just use this pattern (second screenshot).
SPOILER
00:40:753 (1) - The same place above, and for the same reason to fix it.
00:47:459 (4,1) - This overlap is nice, but please differ a little bit. See my screenshot, that will be a better appearance.
SPOILER
00:57:695 (1,2,3,4) - Here the flow is not good, you may try this pattern.
SPOILER
01:00:518 (1) - In my opinion, you don't need to use red anchor point, that will make a bad flow here, so just use a straight slider as well.
01:03:342 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think this pattern is of good appearance, maybe you can try this, it has better flow and appearance.
SPOILER
01:07:577 (1,2,3,4) - Please make the sliders same, just copy and paste, like 01:06:165 (1,2,3,4) -, this kind of patterns are very nice.
01:10:753 (2,3,4,5,6) - I suggest using the same distance spacing, now the pattern is very confusing.
01:11:812 (1,2,1) - Don't overlap this, it just like mapping randomly. I give you some suggestions.
SPOILER
01:18:518 (4,2) - If you pay attention to your maps' appearance, then stacking it will be better.
01:20:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This part is very nice, you did a good job imo. Like 01:23:283 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - you are using the same distance to compose, if you do this on other part then it will make a cleaner arrangement.
01:31:930 (2,4) - 01:34:400 (1,3) - I suggset using the same slider here, for the same reason mentioned above
01:49:930 - 01:50:459 - Don't ignore the vocal here. Adding a circle is a solution of this.
01:55:930 (4,5) - The flow is not good, maybe you can try this.
SPOILER
02:03:165 (2,3) - I suggest you to change it to this (screenshot), for the same reason mentioned above.
SPOILER
02:09:871 - 02:10:224 - Don't ignore the vocal here, you can change it to one 1/2 slider + one circle + one 1/2 slider or other similar patterns.
02:11:106 (1,1) - I suggest you to stack it, for a better appearance.
02:19:577 (1,2) - I think the they are too close to each other. I suggest you to move it far away, like 02:21:695 (5,6) - .
02:23:812 - I hear the vocal here, just add a circle, for the same reason mentioned above.
03:00:518 (1,2,3,4) - The flow is not good, for the same reason mentioned above. I give you some suggestions.
SPOILER
03:14:459 (6,1) - Like 02:03:165 (2,3) -, use the same way to fix it.
03:22:400 (5) - In my opinion, you can NC this circle, that will be more readable.
03:32:989 (1,2) - Make a clean blanket, for the same reason mentioned above.
03:38:459 (4,2,3) - I suggest you to stack it, for a better appearance.

[Normal]

I recommend you to use AR5 or 5.5 in this difficulty, it is because AR6 seems too fast for new players, AR5 or 5.5 is more suitable. Also, HP6 is too high, it is the same as Hard difficulty, so I suggest you to change it to HP4 as well.
For distance snap (Your snap is 1.35x, if there are distances deviated more than +-0.05x I will list them out here.):
01:03:871 (2) - 1.40x
01:58:224 (4) - 1.42x
02:21:695 (4) - 1.41x
02:25:224 (1) - 1.30x
03:32:283 (3) - 1.28x
03:34:400 (1) - 1.08x
00:22:400 (4) - You should NC here because you set NC on beats on every white tick, there is no reason why you don't set one NC here.
00:33:695 (3) - 00:47:459 (3) - You should NC here too, for the same reason mentioned above.
00:45:165 (1) - Remove NC here because this part you set NC on beats on every two white tick.
01:10:753 (2,3) - Fix the overlap please, it doesn't look beautiful.
SPOILER
01:44:459 (1) - Remove NC here, for the same reason mentioned above.
02:19:577 - to 02:35:812 - I suggest you always set NC on every one white tick, not every two. It is because that will fit the song better.
02:54:518 (5,1) - This pattern is really not that readable, for new players it might be a challenge, as previous circles come after every 1/1 beat, but this is 1/2 beat long between each. It should be avoided, so I suggest you to change it to another pattern as well.
03:10:400 (3) - 03:21:695 (3) - NC here, for the same reason mentioned above.
03:21:695 (3) - I suggest you to use two 1/2 sliders or one 1/2 reverse slider + one circle. It is because sometimes the double reverse slider is not that readable, they may not be able to recgonize the sliders with 2 reverses, so it should be avoided.
03:23:106 - to 03:45:695 - I suggest you always set NC on beats on every white tick, not every two. for the same reason mentioned above.

[Easy]

Your Hard and Normal difficulty has different BGs, but why not set a different one for Easy difficulty? I recommend you to add a new BG for Easy difficulty.
I recommend you to use AR3 in this difficulty, when your Normal difficulty is change AR to 5 or 5.5, then the better AR spread on this difficulty is AR3. Also, AR3 is more suitable for new players.
For distance snap (Your snap is 0.9x, if there are distances deviated more than +-0.05x I will list them out here.):
00:04:753 (2) - 0.98x
00:52:047 (1) - 0.95x
02:28:047 (1) - 0.95x
00:04:048 (1,2) - Please make a clean blanket here. This really matters.
00:05:459 (3,4) - This overlap is not beautiful, I suggest you not to overlap for this, try something like this.
SPOILER
01:05:812 (4,1) - Don't overlap it, for the same reason mentioned above.
01:18:518 (2,1) - I suggest you to stack it, for a better appearance.
01:27:342 (3,4) - Don't overlap it, for the same reason mentioned above.
02:05:459 (1,2) - Make a clean blanket here, for the same reason mentioned above.
02:23:636 (2) - I suggest you to move the slider 1/2 beat forward. It is because the sound at white tick is downbeat and it is stronger than that at red tick, just like this.
SPOILER
03:44:989 (3,4) - Make a clean blanket here, for the same reason mentioned above.
Nice difficulty imo, no big problem.

[Doormat's Insane]

The map is still working in progress, so when you are done with it you can find me for a mod.

That is all I want to say. Nice song, I love it~
Good Luck for your first rank map~

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-02-17T02:27:48+00:00

Kencho wrote:
Hi~
[General]
Inconsistency in PreviewTime:
Doormat's Insane : 57214
Easy : 57695
Hard : 57695
Normal : 57695
Please fix it.
Your map has some unused hitsounds:
drum-hitclap1.wav
drum-hitwhistle1.wav
drum-sliderslide1.wav
normal-hitnormal2.wav
normal-sliderslide1.wav
soft-sliderslide1.wav
Please delete them. Make sure you don't have any unused hitsounds.
I recommend you to add a kiai time on 00:15:342 - to 00:26:636 - because it has the same rhythm as other kiai time parts, just refer to Doormat's Insane.
[Hard]
The whole difficulty is not bad. For rhythm, actually you did a great job. Many places are fit the song, but sometimes you miss beats. Never mind, I will tell you where can be improved in my mod. For arrangement, still not bad in my opinion, but some places indeed need to improve. Making a good flow and good aesthetics is the most important generally.

00:04:047 (1,2) - Here you didn't blanket the objects well, but never mind, there is a easy way to make a clean blanket. First, you may see the approachcircle on circle or slider head. Then, you make a new slider to blanket them, just see the approachcircle to blanket (see my screenshot). And you can see the counter at upper right corner, this will show the objects' distance for you. When you blanket some objects, just use ctrl+G in the slider, then see the number on the counter, if the number remains the same as which it was just now, the blanket is perfect. Ty, I'm now gonna turn off gridsnap when making blankets too
SPOILER
Your original pattern.

When I fixed the blanket.

The distance between the slider and the circle .

When crtl+G the slider, you can see them at the same distance spacing, then you are made a clean blanket.
00:08:812 - Don't ignore the vocal, I suggest you to change the 1/1 slider to one 1/2 slider and one circle, that will fit the song better.
00:09:165 (4,5,6) - When you change previous 1/1 slider to one 1/2 slider and one circle, here you can make a different pattern on the three circles. Something like this is more attractive.
SPOILER
00:09:695 (1,2) - I think you know how to fix it now. Make a clean for better looking.
00:09:518 (6,3) - If you pay attention for your maps' appearance, then stacking it will be better.
00:09:695 (1,4) - I suggest not overlap if you the pay attention for your maps appearance.
00:11:106 (1,2,3,4) - I see this pattern are very confusing, not beautiful, just like mapping randomly, and the flow is bad. So, I have another pattern for you, it is very simple, you can try it. I actually really liked the pattern, I thought it fit the style of the whole map and looked pretty to me ><
SPOILER
00:12:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - In my opinion, you can use a same distance spacing to make a clean arrangement, like regular octagon.
00:15:342 (1,3) - I suggest you to use a same slider here (just copy and paste) because now your pattern is not really clean. You can try this. I prefer mine atm
SPOILER
00:15:342 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - If you fix things mentioned above, here is a whole pattern to give you to take as reference.
SPOILER

00:18:695 (2,3) - 00:19:400 (4,5) - Make a clean blanket, for the same reason mentioned above.
00:19:400 (4) - You should NC here because you set NC on beat on every white tick, there is no reason why you don't set one NC here.
00:20:459 - You miss a beat here, I suggest you to add a circle.
00:30:165 (2,3) - In my opinion, move the circle to x:160 y:288, it will be better looking.
00:32:106 - You miss a beat here, I suggest you to add a circle, then NC 00:31:930 (5) - and move to 00:32:283 (1) - slider head. It is because it will be more attractive, pattern like this.
SPOILER
00:35:106 (1) - I suggest you to use one 1/2 slider + one circle + one 1/2 slider, it will be like this (first screenshot). The reason is it will fit in the song better. Actually 00:35:283 - and 00:35:636 - you miss beats. So just use this pattern (second screenshot). sprry but I've made no change to the rhythm here. I think my rhythm is simple in the way its all 1/2 sliders then a 1/1 reverse slider. I didnt want to over complicate the verse
SPOILER

00:40:753 (1) - The same place above, and for the same reason to fix it. same
00:47:459 (4,1) - This overlap is nice, but please differ a little bit. See my screenshot, that will be a better appearance. It would help if you told me what I should be aiming for because the difference between the 2 isnt really obvious to me :/ anyways I tried to imitate what you did. tried
SPOILER

00:57:695 (1,2,3,4) - Here the flow is not good, you may try this pattern.
SPOILER
01:00:518 (1) - In my opinion, you don't need to use red anchor point, that will make a bad flow here, so just use a straight slider as well.
01:03:342 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think this pattern is of good appearance, maybe you can try this, it has better flow and appearance.
SPOILER
01:07:577 (1,2,3,4) - Please make the sliders same, just copy and paste, like 01:06:165 (1,2,3,4) -, this kind of patterns are very nice.
01:10:753 (2,3,4,5,6) - I suggest using the same distance spacing, now the pattern is very confusing. I didnt do this as it would break the pattern
01:11:812 (1,2,1) - Don't overlap this, it just like mapping randomly. I give you some suggestions.
SPOILER

01:18:518 (4,2) - If you pay attention to your maps' appearance, then stacking it will be better.
01:20:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This part is very nice, you did a good job imo. Like 01:23:283 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - you are using the same distance to compose, if you do this on other part then it will make a cleaner arrangement. I thought I did....
01:31:930 (2,4) - 01:34:400 (1,3) - I suggset using the same slider here, for the same reason mentioned above I actually dont like symmetry or repeated sliders that much. Thats just me
01:49:930 - 01:50:459 - Don't ignore the vocal here. Adding a circle is a solution of this.
01:55:930 (4,5) - The flow is not good, maybe you can try this.
SPOILER
02:03:165 (2,3) - I suggest you to change it to this (screenshot), for the same reason mentioned above.
SPOILER
02:09:871 - 02:10:224 - Don't ignore the vocal here, you can change it to one 1/2 slider + one circle + one 1/2 slider or other similar patterns. I think the rhythm is fine here is the better choice imo as following the vocals too much isnt really ideal
02:11:106 (1,1) - I suggest you to stack it, for a better appearance.
02:19:577 (1,2) - I think the they are too close to each other. I suggest you to move it far away, like 02:21:695 (5,6) - .
02:23:812 - I hear the vocal here, just add a circle, for the same reason mentioned above. I followed the drums here for the entire section
03:00:518 (1,2,3,4) - The flow is not good, for the same reason mentioned above. I give you some suggestions. I changed to something else since I (3) overlaps the sliders after it and I didnt want to remap cos I'm lazzy
SPOILER
03:14:459 (6,1) - Like 02:03:165 (2,3) -, use the same way to fix it.
03:22:400 (5) - In my opinion, you can NC this circle, that will be more readable.
03:32:989 (1,2) - Make a clean blanket, for the same reason mentioned above.
03:38:459 (4,2,3) - I suggest you to stack it, for a better appearance.

[Normal]
I recommend you to use AR5 or 5.5 in this difficulty, it is because AR6 seems too fast for new players, AR5 or 5.5 is more suitable. Also, HP6 is too high, it is the same as Hard difficulty, so I suggest you to change it to HP4 as well.

For distance snap (Your snap is 1.35x, if there are distances deviated more than +-0.05x I will list them out here.):
01:03:871 (2) - 1.40x
01:58:224 (4) - 1.42x
02:21:695 (4) - 1.41x
02:25:224 (1) - 1.30x
03:32:283 (3) - 1.28x
03:34:400 (1) - 1.08x

00:22:400 (4) - You should NC here because you set NC on beats on every white tick, there is no reason why you don't set one NC here.
00:33:695 (3) - 00:47:459 (3) - You should NC here too, for the same reason mentioned above. I didnt do this for the reason you stated below at 00:45:165
00:45:165 (1) - Remove NC here because this part you set NC on beats on every two white tick.
01:10:753 (2,3) - Fix the overlap please, it doesn't look beautiful.
SPOILER
01:44:459 (1) - Remove NC here, for the same reason mentioned above.
02:19:577 - to 02:35:812 - I suggest you always set NC on every one white tick, not every two. It is because that will fit the song better.
02:54:518 (5,1) - This pattern is really not that readable, for new players it might be a challenge, as previous circles come after every 1/1 beat, but this is 1/2 beat long between each. It should be avoided, so I suggest you to change it to another pattern as well.
03:10:400 (3) - 03:21:695 (3) - NC here, for the same reason mentioned above.
03:21:695 (3) - I suggest you to use two 1/2 sliders or one 1/2 reverse slider + one circle. It is because sometimes the double reverse slider is not that readable, they may not be able to recgonize the sliders with 2 reverses, so it should be avoided. I would need to remap this. I'm keeping htis only until I can come up with a better pattern (I am going to change it)
03:23:106 - to 03:45:695 - I suggest you always set NC on beats on every white tick, not every two. for the same reason mentioned above.

[Easy]
Your Hard and Normal difficulty has different BGs, but why not set a different one for Easy difficulty? I recommend you to add a new BG for Easy difficulty. I couldnt find a good quality BG though
I recommend you to use AR3 in this difficulty, when your Normal difficulty is change AR to 5 or 5.5, then the better AR spread on this difficulty is AR3. Also, AR3 is more suitable for new players.

For distance snap (Your snap is 0.9x, if there are distances deviated more than +-0.05x I will list them out here.):
00:04:753 (2) - 0.98x
00:52:047 (1) - 0.95x
02:28:047 (1) - 0.95x

00:04:048 (1,2) - Please make a clean blanket here. This really matters.
00:05:459 (3,4) - This overlap is not beautiful, I suggest you not to overlap for this, try something like this.
SPOILER
01:05:812 (4,1) - Don't overlap it, for the same reason mentioned above.
01:18:518 (2,1) - I suggest you to stack it, for a better appearance.
01:27:342 (3,4) - Don't overlap it, for the same reason mentioned above.
02:05:459 (1,2) - Make a clean blanket here, for the same reason mentioned above.
02:23:636 (2) - I suggest you to move the slider 1/2 beat forward. It is because the sound at white tick is downbeat and it is stronger than that at red tick, just like this. No change, Im following the drum/bass thingy so yh
SPOILER
03:44:989 (3,4) - Make a clean blanket here, for the same reason mentioned above.

Nice difficulty imo, no big problem. ty

[Doormat's Insane]
The map is still working in progress, so when you are done with it you can find me for a mod.
That is all I want to say. Nice song, I love it~
Good Luck for your first rank map~

If I didnt reply it means I've fixed it.

Ty for the mod it was very in depth and helped me think a lot about planning when I'm mapping. This really is the best mod I've ever got, Thank you very much!!!!

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-02-17T13:36:39+00:00

Hi~ From my first ever queue. (M4M : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/400263 )

[General]

I remember that this anime is challenging our normal sense of living standards LOL. I couldn't help laughing while I was watching it. Let's begin~ >3<

[newyams' Oni]

> 00:20:989 (99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112) -
For this pattern so on, try this:

Notice that the pitches of 'wa' are the same. At first, I wanna change all the notes to k, but I find that you match k with 'wa' only and use d to seperate. ( You may reamain 00:22:930 (111,112) - as d K because you use it in the latter on same pattern)

> 01:16:047 (397) / 02:15:342 (733) / 03:18:871 (1040) - - - change from d to k to match with ^. (optional, you may want to make a pattern of ddk kkd in 02:14:459 (726,727,728) - and 02:15:165 (731,732,733) - )

> 01:25:753 (457) - change from k to d to follow the pitch, and also follow the same pitch and also pattern in 01:23:812 (442,443,444,445) -

> Remarks: Nice flow!

[Muzu]

> 00:14:812 (46,47,48) - change the notes to kkk because Muzukashii usually consists of monochrome triplet (If I am wrong plz correct me! )

> 00:17:636 (14,15,16) - delete 00:17:724 (15) - , and change the remainings to k k as you have matched these notes with k k in the Kiai session. (01:11:283 (14,15) - )

> 00:20:459 (29,30,31) / 01:14:106 (26,27,28) / 03:16:929 (26,27,28) - - - change to kkk (monochrome triplet)

> 01:28:047 (48,54,1) - I think you should use Finish for these notes necessarily. For others, there's no obvious and apparent need.

> In the first part of the 2nd Kiai, I am not sure that whether you want to match the BG clap SE with dons.... Here's a suggestion for a part of it: 01:58:047 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -

.

If you make a change here, you should also make some changes on 02:00:165 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - . If not, just let it be the current one. ( This question was raised due to your pattern in the second part of the 2nd Kiai. You opted to use k to follow BG clap SE.)

> 02:57:342 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27) - try this:

That hexa-1/4 beats cannot be ranked imo. Besides, it is not possible to match all the notes with the BG music completely in Muzukashii. I advice you to follow vocal for an easier and a clearer cut here.

> Remarks: The current one may be too difficult for Muzu players. Let's see...

Unexpected mod here within a half of a day since the req LOL
I hope my mod is helpful~

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-02-18T01:06:15+00:00

Skylish wrote:
[Muzu]

> 00:14:812 (46,47,48) - change the notes to kkk because Muzukashii usually consists of monochrome triplet (If I am wrong plz correct me! )

> 00:17:636 (14,15,16) - delete 00:17:724 (15) - , and change the remainings to k k as you have matched these notes with k k in the Kiai session. (01:11:283 (14,15) - )

> 00:20:459 (29,30,31) / 01:14:106 (26,27,28) / 03:16:929 (26,27,28) - - - change to kkk (monochrome triplet)

> 01:28:047 (48,54,1) - I think you should use Finish for these notes necessarily. For others, there's no obvious and apparent need.

> In the first part of the 2nd Kiai, I am not sure that whether you want to match the BG clap SE with dons.... Here's a suggestion for a part of it: 01:58:047 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) -
.

If you make a change here, you should also make some changes on 02:00:165 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - . If not, just let it be the current one. ( This question was raised due to your pattern in the second part of the 2nd Kiai. You opted to use k to follow BG clap SE.)

> 02:57:342 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27) - try this:

That hexa-1/4 beats cannot be ranked imo. Besides, it is not possible to match all the notes with the BG music completely in Muzukashii. I advice you to follow vocal for an easier and a clearer cut here.

> Remarks: The current one may be too difficult for Muzu players. Let's see...

Unexpected mod here within a half of a day since the req LOL
I hope my mod is helpful~ GL

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2016-02-18T06:33:15+00:00

dem De Song make me want make Inner Oni, actually for overmap

Rip BG Position Oni

>Oni
dem yummyummy.. sorry for my bad engirh or nazi ( to do point ) or idk
~00:04:048 - its stronk cymbal yus? why not adding finisher?/
~I might 00:10:489 - change this and 00:12:077 - this for kat. for balance patterns, have kdd for what vocal pitch and kkd too. sry bad engirh
~00:14:724 - delete this. 00:14:636 - just focus this pitch and 00:14:812 - do 1/6 stream. for ez
~00:20:459 (96) - change don, not have stronk pitch to be as kat, and also you get 00:20:636 - emphasize this if you change to don 01:13:930 - Oo u forget? XD
~00:24:165 (116,117,118,119,120) - dkkdk 1/2? 00:24:342 (117,118) - its good emphasize if you change that
~00:29:812 - why not put a note and 00:30:518 - here? previous similar pitch
~00:53:636 (261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269) - idk with this.. 00:54:430 - delete this?
~00:57:077 - uhh... 00:57:165 - you must emphasize this, not overput like that *and next too*
~01:24:518 (444,445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452) - remember me which something song.. furioso melodia
~02:37:047 - tnnggggg

just it, this well diff.. but I some not comfort with 1/4 pattern or idk, but I like you 1/2 pattern, nice..

>Muzukashii
00:17:283 - delete to avoid long pattern. because it fit with vocal flow
00:19:577 - ^
00:20:459 (25,26,27) - kkk looks good and it sounds fit, is higher vocal
00:22:047 - delete, same reason
00:24:695 - ^ yeah
00:28:930 - delete this, its nice emphasize
00:36:342 (15,19) - delete both of this
00:43:047 - delete, it sounds like stream, just emphasize to not putting note
00:43:930 - akward if you not put note, don
00:45:871 - delete
00:46:753 - ^ put a note, don
00:49:577 - ^
00:50:812 - if you want to follow vocal, you can move 00:50:636 - here and 00:51:518 - put kat in here. I think is consistent with next 5plet patterns
00:59:636 - delete
01:00:695 - ^
01:06:695 - ^
01:07:577 - ^
01:10:930 - ^ 01:10:753 (11,12) - thats bell, nice emphasize if delete 01:10:930 - this
01:20:547 (3,8) - delete this and add don in 01:20:547 (3,8) - here. its toover
01:23:371 - delete this and 01:24:606 - add don here to be as 5plet, is fine
01:58:224 - delete
02:01:400 - ^
02:04:577 - ^
from 02:05:459 - untill 02:07:930 - here make ddk dkkd dk dkk 1/2

Your Muzu Mostly have stream and long 1/2 pattern.. You need consider and reduce that, if me continue that it'll be long post with similar word.. rip my nub word

Sorry for my word if you ar not understand or what.. GLuck! XD

Seijiro

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3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-02-18T22:11:36+00:00

M4M :3
obviously, late, fssss

btw, I hope you like in-depth mods, 'cause I'm gonna complain about even the smallest things :^

General

Tags:
[list:1337]- remove "Shomin" "Sample" "OP" (the first 2 are written twice and the third one is already included into "OPening"
- remove "Doormat", he has no GD in this mapset anymore x)

Meta:

"IDOL COLLEGE" (artist) should be "Idol College" (it's written like that everywhere on the web so I guess that's the right one

HardGameplay:

00:04:753 (3) - I wonder why this slider has this shape while 00:07:577 (3) - is perfectly fine.
While I can understand the reason "to give more depth/creativity to the map" I can not agree on the shape itself, since it adds nothing to the gameplay (it just doesn't look that clean)
00:10:400 (3) - same ^

00:04:577 (2,3) - I do understand the reason for the jump. What I do not understand is why this isn't consistent everywhere:
00:08:989 (3,4) - no jump here, even if that's the same rhythm
and all the other strong beats like the first one I pointed out aren't the same later on.
Seeing that using a consistent jump like that is out of question on such a diff I'd suggest to avoid it in the beginning, above all because there are particular reasons to enforce emphasis on a calm part:
00:04:577 (2,3) - for example here, you have no strong beat to support the jump;
00:05:459 (1,2) - ok, you have the clap here which kinda compensates, but 00:06:695 (4,1) - again has no strong beat to support the jump;
00:07:400 (2,3) - vocals alone aren't enough on such low diff (mostly because this part is calm);
and so on

00:11:106 (1,2,3,4) - You could get angry with me if I say I can't understand the meaning behind these flow. Actually, not the flow itself, which is circular so there's no problem, but the slider shapes. They are curved in random directions for me. Why?

00:13:577 (7,8) - Since the whole rhythm stops on a red tick it isn't appropriate to use circles till the end on a Hard (personal reasoning here).
I'd rather use a slider for these 2 last beats, giving the feeling of something "unfinished" in the rhythm (which resembles the song imo)

00:15:871 (2,3) - This is really a forced jump ugh. Above all for such difficulty.
In general, lower diffs require more flow and less sudden direction changes since 1) it isn't confusing for players, and 2) looks and feels nicer

00:16:753 (5,1) - another forced flow imo. Suggestion
Notice that it isn't a correct pattern, since it is making a bunch of overlaps with the next and previous objects, but that's the flow the movement 5 --> 1 should have imo (at least for this difficulty)

00:17:989 (4,1) - Again jumps a bit too big for this diff, but only because you keep using them frequently. If you remove the jump from 00:17:106 (1,2) - the one I pointed out here would really fit. Same goes for all the others

00:18:165 (1,3) - They are following the same sound, yet they have different shapes. Obviously, using the same shape across the whole map is boring and shouldn't be done, but at least use the same shape for the same combo/pattern: it gives a feeling of neatness

00:19:400 (1,2,3,4) - Sudden increase in spacing for no reason .-.

00:21:342 (2) - Tell me the meaning of that last anchorpoint there lol. It does nothing besides looking not so well
Just a suggestion
00:22:224 (1) - same ^

00:24:165 (2,3) - rip rhythm and emphasis :/ The white tick is totally ignored and you put a jump on a red tick: both things together works really bad.
Try like this and see how it flows (3 stacked under 2)

00:26:636 (1,2) - Same sound, different shapes (and the second one isn't so nice too)
00:29:459 (1,2) - same ^

00:29:459 (1) - I'd keep the zig zag movement and put this slider to around 396;136 like this
It is also one of those "forced" movements from before

00:31:047 (1,2,3,4) - Same intensity, same spacing, fssss

00:32:283 (1,2,3,4) - Will you kill me if I ask again the meaning of this pattern? /w\

00:34:400 (4,5) - same as above ^, but I have a suggestion in this case, to spice things up a little: here
00:40:047 (4,5) - same ^

00:38:283 (2,3,4) - dunno...

00:42:342 (2) - that stack is kinda still compared to the sound. What about moving these circle under 00:41:812 (3) - 's tail?

00:45:165 (1) - I dunno why you like these shapes x)

00:45:695 (2,3) - Imo these circles are too much seeing that there aren't any particular notes to emphasize here. Maybe convert them into a slider

00:50:636 - Ugh, rip vocals. I highly suggest using this beat instead of 00:50:459 - , since you use vocals for 00:49:224 (1) - , therefore it feels strange to change rhythm where there are no coincidences between instruments and vocals

00:58:224 (2,3) - random jump. The reason I point this out isn't because it doesn't fit, but because you didn't use the same jump on other parts that needed same quantity of emphasis: do it for all or for no one, since the inconsistency is noticeable

00:59:459 (2) - that last beat on the tail feels wasted like that. Maybe remove the repeat and add a circle

01:03:871 (2,3) - the overlap is real fssss

01:01:753 (1,2) - 1 follows vocals, 2 follows...?

01:06:165 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - If every pattern was this clean and tidy ;w;
Even if... you waste a couple of beats, but since it feels nice to play anyway, no problem

01:10:753 (2,3) - since you were following vocals the circle feels a bit useless, or rather, not really important to place a circle, so what about adding a repeat on the slider as you did before?

01:11:636 (6,1) - Another forced movement imo. There is a nice circle: 01:11:106 (3,4,5,6,1) - (consider only the slider start) and after that you have this slider with a direction which breaks the whole thing :/

01:13:047 (1) - Wild NC appears lol. Actually, 01:13:577 (1) - this is the extra NC I think

01:15:518 (4,1) - This overlap isn't so nice compared to the previous sliders

01:16:400 (3) - I swear I'll stop to point these ones out x)

01:17:812 (2,3) - What about removing the waypoints on these? Those curves are trying to tell me something that isn't there (some sort of pattern maybe? I dunno...)

01:20:283 - 01:25:224 - this part is really intense, compared to the rest of the map.
Imo beats like 01:20:283 (1,2) - + 01:20:459 - would have worked out better by using a triplet or even a 1/4 repeat slider, mostly because 01:20:636 - isn't really emphasized much and looks like a really good beat
01:23:106 (1,2,3) - consistency with ^ in case you accept it

01:22:400 (1,2,3,4,5) - You had only 1/1 and 1/2 snaps on your Normal yet you use a chain of 5 1/4 beats here... feels too heavy. Maybe use 2 circles + 1/4 repeat slider

01:26:636 (3,4) - Again, these have no particular meaning nor flow imo (3 is a bit too forced too). Suggestion

01:28:753 (1,2,3,4) - You used same shapes for 3 and 4, but not the same shape for 1 and 2. I actually noticed that 2, 3 and 4 have the same shape which I find odd since those notes fall on the same sound, therefore they should have the same shape (unless there are some other reasons I couldn't find)

01:31:577 (1,2) - I would have stacked these since the rhythm quite changes from 01:30:165 (1,2) - , right?

01:33:695 (5,6) - Again, I can't see the reasoning behind these Suggestion based on my previous suggestions

01:35:812 (3) - Ctrl + G? As it is now you have the movement 2 --> 3 from right to left, yet 3's shape goes from left to right (the exact opposite, just without the vertical movement) which I find odd, since the direction of the slider clearly opposes the flow like this

I just noticed now that you sometimes map the vocals and sometimes map the background. Not that it is a problem but the spots where you do so seem a bit odd. For example: you follow vocals using 01:39:342 (1,2) - but the previous pattern was following the background (I think). The problem is that you need to make sure that the pattern based on the background instruments softly gets fused with the pattern for the vocals. They should slowly become the same pattern for a moment and then continue their own way, following either the background or the vocals.
Let me give you a visual reference for this, since it isn't quite easy to understand with words only (I'll use a lower AR to show you the whole pattern)
Fusing the background sounds into the vocals
Fusing vocals with the background sounds
Without the song they obviously mean nothing and I can still understand it might not be totally clear, but I swear that's the best solution I had atm

01:42:871 (1) - The shape was hinting to some sort of blanket /w\

01:44:989 (2,3) - reason for direction and shape? x)

01:49:930 (1) - One of those spots where you change from vocals to background oddly. 01:48:518 (1) - this slider here makes me think you're still on vocals.
Imo you should convert 01:49:930 (1,2) - into a big 1/1 slider to keep the rhythm. You can change to instruments later on with 01:50:636 (4,5) - without problems

01:58:930 (2) - The beat on the tale is stronger than the one on the head. Since sliders usually have more pressure on the head rather than the tail it feels odd when something like this occurs. I suggest using a slider starting from 01:59:106 - and keeping a circle for 01:58:930 - (or just 2 circles to keep the rhythm for 01:59:283 (3,4) - )

02:03:165 (2,3) - Not so good looking overlap

02:04:753 (3) - that curve so early on the slider looks strange, as all the aforementioned ones. Is there a particular reason for it?

02:07:224 (1,2) - Not the first time this spacing occurs, but I just wanted to remind you that the spacing is inconsistent: just take a look to 02:06:342 (2,3) - which is literally the same rhythm, yet it has a regular DS

02:08:812 (2,3) - The jump on 3 feels weaker when the direction of the jump and the direction of the slider are opposites. This always applies with even patterns made of circles only, be careful

02:09:695 (1) - so many vocal beats wasted ;;w;;

02:14:812 (4,1) - A bit too cramped compared with the rest of your patterns/slider shapes

02:31:930 (3) - A Ctrl + G would fit really well imo (it follows the circular flow created with the 2 previous sliders)

02:52:047 (1,2) - I'd reduce SV for these sliders since the song is still calm

03:02:283 (2) - Ctrl + G, as I already suggested on the similar pattern before somewhere above ^

03:03:871 (2,3) - same overlap as before which doesn't look so nice

03:08:106 (2,3) - jump and slide direction are opposites again, therefore the jump feels forced and the slider has less emphasis. Try a Ctrl + G on 3 and place 4 stacked on 2

03:22:400 (1) - This NC wasn't there at 01:18:165 (3) - or 02:17:459 (3) -

03:25:224 (1,2) - The jump on the red tick, fssss. What about moving 03:25:224 (1) - top around 300;176?

03:34:224 (4,1) - Forced jump, and you should know why now that I explained it above ^

03:37:753 (2,3) - These overlaps >~<

03:42:871 (1) - This is a fusion of the other slider shapes: curve on both head and tail x)

Hitsounds:

First thing I notice is that you overwrote the soft whistle with a custom one. I would have loved to use that whistle tbh, since it fits well quite everywhere and also, your custom soft whistle is a clap, not a whistle lol

Places where the default soft-whistle would have been great:
00:04:047 (1) - head
00:04:753 (3) - head
00:06:871 (1) - head
00:07:577 (3) - head
and so on

00:14:989 (2) - this hitsound is too quiet for such strong beat imo. Use the default normal finish here

00:17:636 (2,3) - these claps are currently on drum sampleset, please revert them back to soft sampleset as all the others

00:23:106 (4) - normal finish on head?

00:31:930 (1,2) - custom drum clap on these? That hitsound looks like it has been chosen for spots like this tbh

00:32:283 (1) - normal finish on head?

01:16:753 (4) - same ^

01:20:283 - 01:25:930 - another section where default whistles would have been great

01:56:636 (6) - normal finish, also increase volume since it's barely audible

02:16:047 (5) - normal finish?

02:33:695 (2,4) - soft finish on both?
02:35:812 (4) - same ^

02:53:812 (4,5) - clap goes on 5, you have a clap every 4/1 for that part of the map

02:56:989 (5) - normal finish fits better as before

03:00:165 (1) - soft finish adds a nice effect here

03:45:695 (1) - normal finish feels better, since it's milder than the soft one

Normal

I'll avoid mentioning what I mentioned in the Hard about slider shapes and so on since here there are less and not really noticeable

00:47:459 (3) - Out of the grid, please find another way to put this slider: My cursor indicates the middle of the slider

01:31:577 (1,2,3,4) - As for the hard diff, some parts seem to be a bit random /w\

01:46:753 (1) - Nice *^*

02:18:165 (1) - Nuooooo, don't use an even number of repeats on such low difficulties ;w; It's confusing and in this case there are a lot of patterns playing a whole better than this (remove both repeats and add 2 circles maybe)

02:31:930 (3) - teach me slider art :O

02:33:695 (1,2) - try to keep the stacking of notes for a single pattern. This one can be misleading since you used stacked objects for 1/1 only till now

02:37:930 - I can't decide whether it is better to put the break effect here or at 02:37:047 - ... nah, nvm, keep it like that

02:49:224 (1,2,3,4) - Be careful with stacks in general.

02:54:165 (4,5) - this can be confusing seeing that the last 16 measures used stacks for 2/1 notes, and not 1/1 as at the beginning of the map

03:18:165 (2,3) - This is the only 1/2 stacked part and it isn't readable at all at this levels and after 3 minutes of map (too late to introduce new patterns)

03:21:695 (3) - too many repeats fssss

Same hitsounds from Hard apply here too

Easy

00:25:224 (3) - A bit out of the screen :/

01:18:518 (2) - Do not silence a whole slider, it's unrankable: the player needs feedback from it (5% of volume is considered silence)

03:45:695 (4) - NC, to keep the 8/1 combo-ing of the whole map

Same hitsounding applied here too, also I noticed that you used default soft whistles here and on the Normal, intended?
As I said, those whistles really fit well with almost everything and you should use them more (when possible)

I guess that's all I have to say...
The main problem I saw was just lack of reasoning (at least from my point of view, maybe you had clear and defined rules for those sliders/patterns which I missed and I apologize for being too pushy with my mod if that's the case) (I'm referring to all 3 standard diffs, I just let it slip on the Normal and Easy since it was pointless anyway).
I hope it was helpful and sorry if I seemed harsh in any part of my mod, but I it wasn't my intention at all I swear

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-19T03:26:12+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Hi~ From my first ever queue. (M4M : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/400263 )

[General]

I remember that this anime is challenging our normal sense of living standards LOL. I couldn't help laughing while I was watching it. Let's begin~ >3<

[newyams' Oni]

> 00:20:989 (99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112) -
For this pattern so on, try this:

Notice that the pitches of 'wa' are the same. At first, I wanna change all the notes to k, but I find that you match k with 'wa' only and use d to seperate. ( You may reamain 00:22:930 (111,112) - as d K because you use it in the latter on same pattern) I'd partially changed the triplet to kkd for consistency with the rest of the map. I think that I should only have a k where the waa actually happens, but not extends into so I decided to rule out kkk. As for the second portion, as you said, I'd like to keep it consistent, and the waa on 00:22:930 (111) - isn't as strong.

> 01:16:047 (397) / 02:15:342 (733) / 03:18:871 (1040) - - - change from d to k to match with ^. (optional, you may want to make a pattern of ddk kkd in 02:14:459 (726,727,728) - and 02:15:165 (731,732,733) - ) As mentioned before.

> 01:25:753 (457) - change from k to d to follow the pitch, and also follow the same pitch and also pattern in 01:23:812 (442,443,444,445) - I think I'd like to keep this one mostly because I felt the k d k d k rhythm was overused. I also want to show that I'm matching to the drum by having it d k at 01:25:930 (458,459).

> Remarks: Nice flow! Thanks :3

Unexpected mod here within a half of a day since the req LOL
I hope my mod is helpful~ GL

Surono wrote:
dem De Song make me want make Inner Oni, actually for overmap

Rip BG Position Oni

>Oni
dem yummyummy.. sorry for my bad engirh or nazi ( to do point ) or idk
~00:04:048 - its stronk cymbal yus? why not adding finisher?/ It is the beginning of the song, and I want to contrast it with 00:15:342 (63) which has a much strong cymbal sound.
~I might 00:10:489 - change this and 00:12:077 - this for kat. for balance patterns, have kdd for what vocal pitch and kkd too. sry bad engirh I felt like kkd might get a bit loud when I tested it, but I did make other changes.
~00:14:724 - delete this. 00:14:636 - just focus this pitch and 00:14:812 - do 1/6 stream. for ez I'll see what others say, because I'd really like to keep this D:
~00:20:459 (96) - change don, not have stronk pitch to be as kat, and also you get 00:20:636 - emphasize this if you change to don 01:13:930 - Oo u forget? XD lol fixed.
~00:24:165 (116,117,118,119,120) - dkkdk 1/2? 00:24:342 (117,118) - its good emphasize if you change thatYeah, that sounds good.
~00:29:812 - why not put a note and 00:30:518 - here? previous similar pitch I think this sound sounds similar to 00:28:400, which I skipped.
~00:53:636 (261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269) - idk with this.. 00:54:430 - delete this? Yeah, why not. I couldn't really think of what to do here.
~00:57:077 - uhh... 00:57:165 - you must emphasize this, not overput like that *and next too* I know that the last hit needs emphasis, but if I could, I'd like to keep this. I personally really like it
~01:24:518 (444,445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452) - remember me which something song.. furioso melodia xD
~02:37:047 - tnnggggg Should I put a hit here

just it, this well diff.. but I some not comfort with 1/4 pattern or idk, but I like you 1/2 pattern, nice.. I'll see if I can make any 1/4 patterns neater, or better in general.

Sorry for my word if you ar not understand or what.. GLuck! XD All g.

Thanks for your mods

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Source:俺がお嬢様学校に『庶民サンプル』としてゲッツされた件
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newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-19T04:23:59+00:00

Hey Nathan, I'd like to point out a simple guideline that might help with difficulty reductions in the Muzukashii. As it is right now, your Muzukashii has too many lengthy 1/2 rhythms which makes it difficult, as other modders mentions. I like to follow a rule where in quiet sections you can have a maximum of 5 1/2 hits in a row, in non-kiai sections 7 1/2 hits, and in kiai sections, up to 9 1/2 (This rule applies to songs of anything higher than about 140 bpm or so). Of course, you may bend these rules, but I VERY STRONGLY advise you to not exceed a maximum of 9 hits. Another thing to mention, despite me recommending these maximums in certain areas, in general you shouldn't use patterns that are longer than 5 1/2 hits.

DO NOT GIVE KUDOS. I WILL PROPERLY MOD THIS EVENTUALLY WHEN THERE HAS BEEN MORE MODDERS.

Examples of what should be changed:

00:04:048 - There's nothing wrong with the beginning, just that it's a bit difficult for a quiet section in a Muzukashii. You could simply match strictly to the vocals and get very very very slightly harder near the end. Nothing huge like 00:12:518 (37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44). Although it's possible to keep this as is, I'd recommend moving 00:12:518 (37) to 00:12:342 for a slightly shorter 1/2 rhythm; this could bend the rules I mentioned a bit since it is building up into the main part of the song. Of course, if you strictly matched to the vocals you'd rarely get anything over 5 1/2 hits in a row, which is what I think you should be aiming for in most of this section.

00:15:695 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - This is a whopping 13 1/2 hits long (triplets are worth 2 1/2 hits), which is definitely unrankable, this is seen very often in the kiais where the 1/2 rhythms are more than 9 1/2 hits long. Please reduce them.

00:35:812 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - Rhythms like these are simple, but they should still be avoided (although it matches so nicely x.x). Deleting 00:37:047 (19) may work; deleting even more may be better in this calmer section.

01:14:106 (26,27,28) - Make sure that any ddks aren't at the end or start of any semi-long 1/2 patterns (let's say 3+ hits). These are very difficult for Muzukashii level players.

This basically summarizes all of the major issues that should be fixed.

Some examples of awesome rest moments and 1/2 hit usage (doesn't mean that they're perfect, but they're perfect in the sense that they use viable rhythms that are more realistic for a Muzukashii):

00:52:047 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - Nicely used 5 1/2 hits, and overall frequency of 1/1 breaks create a very sensible rhythm.

01:03:342 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - This is a good example of what I'd be looking for in a Muzukashii level difficulty for a kiai section. Perfectly matched to the vocals, with nice instrumental rhythm breaks at the end.

01:14:636 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - Although the end of this rhythm is pushing it, it's very justified and reasonably placed. Nice use of breaks at 01:14:636 (29,30,31,32,33).

02:28:047 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - Good instrumental matching, with the difficulty taken into consideration. Also has a nice triplet that is placed in a reasonable spot.

03:23:106 - In general, the ending section was perfect when it came to rest moments and length of 1/2 patterns.

If you use these as your reference for building 1/2 patterns, your map will definitely be better. Note that these rhythms do not use 7-9 hit patterns over and over and over again or often, they use a ranging variety, mainly in the 2-5 hits in a row range.

Good luck

__Ag

601 posts

Joined July 2011

__Ag 2016-02-19T11:17:58+00:00

sorry,Im late,from my queue's NM

Hard

00:17:106 (1) - Ctrl+G?this flow was not good
00:43:577 (1) - I suggest you remove this slider,because BGM on the 00:44:106 - and00:44:195 - and00:44:283 -
00:46:930 (2) - try it?http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4563679
01:31:577 - to01:42:783 -sound volume is too noise,change to 30% is ok,then 01:42:871 - add green line to change sound volume about 50%
03:02:283 (2) - ctrl+G

I think you should make map for follow drumbeats,not vocal,you missed many important drumbeats
good luck

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-02-19T23:45:17+00:00

Thnx newyams! I really appreciate it aswell as the other taiko modders.

I'll reply to everyones mod, both std and taiko over the weekend

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2016-02-20T20:34:55+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
- remove "Doormat", he has no GD in this mapset anymore x)

actually I just finished my difficulty x) ~~after taking forever with it lol~~

anyways, placeholder, I'll be checking out your other difficulties later today.

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-02-20T21:44:11+00:00

oh, ops x)

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,917 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-02-20T22:32:20+00:00

[newyams (wtf i can't manage to remember that name)]
maybe see if http://waifu2x.udp.jp/ can at least get rid of compression artefacts of this bg lol
at least ty to show some character's faces fully what the hell
00:05:989 - the structure you have with vocals usually uses a rest moment over held ones, so you should probably delete this if im not mistaken here lol
00:14:724 - and same ones, maybe delete these i mean it's just an oni so throwing a combination of 1/4 and 1/6 at players might just provoke easy misses and frustration, deleting it will at least give people some time to prepare for 1/6
00:26:636 - maybe use a pattern that allows for this to be a finisher, i really think it should have one lol
00:31:753 - i think 35% sounds still nice and gives way better feedback
00:42:342 - 00:42:518 - could be crtlg'd to keep the 2 k structure of the previous pattern and then it'd change at the noticable change in music in 00:42:871 - idk nothing major lol
00:48:695 - i think ddk flows better than kkd after a kkddkkk pattern
01:05:812 - k ? the other patterns such as 01:06:871 - contain 3 k notes so i think adding one would make for a useful variation here
01:14:106 - i got so used to these being always k k that im just like why would you break that system at this point
01:41:459 - just doubling the volume suddenly sounds pretty odd when playing how about going 60% for this and 01:42:871 - 80% for this ?
01:48:871 - add a note? that way you'd have 1/1 breaks only in this part and that timestamp has a sound
02:04:753 - k d k k ?
03:13:047 - i don't think this is the best place for this stream because no other stream goes through a barline, they all end there, and you basically have 3 instances of ddk ddk ddk there so you might wanna variate a bit anyways, how about http://puu.sh/nfkT3/b8abbf0109.jpg or without a 6plet?
03:27:959 - add a note?
03:43:753 - how about not repeating the same pattern twice but instead something like ddkkkkd or just invert the pattern to kkdkddk or something
03:45:165 - add a note? would make the finisher way more satisfying to hit and give it something more final instead of having a rest moment before it lol

nice diff

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-22T00:04:56+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
[newyams (wtf i can't manage to remember that name)]
All g bro^
maybe see if http://waifu2x.udp.jp/ can at least get rid of compression artefacts of this bg lol
at least ty to show some character's faces fully what the hell xD I'll leave that to the creator.
00:05:989 - the structure you have with vocals usually uses a rest moment over held ones, so you should probably delete this if im not mistaken here lol Yeah.
00:14:724 - and same ones, maybe delete these i mean it's just an oni so throwing a combination of 1/4 and 1/6 at players might just provoke easy misses and frustration, deleting it will at least give people some time to prepare for 1/6 Nothing wrong with this, but I'd like to see what other modders think of it before I change it.
00:26:636 - maybe use a pattern that allows for this to be a finisher, i really think it should have one lol I was half and half on this, so I'll change it.
00:31:753 - i think 35% sounds still nice and gives way better feedback Ok.
00:42:342 - 00:42:518 - could be crtlg'd to keep the 2 k structure of the previous pattern and then it'd change at the noticable change in music in 00:42:871 - idk nothing major lol I think I'd like to keep this because I matched the ks to not only the vocals but also the louder twinkle sound (or whatever that is) that's on the beats that I've placed the ks on. The change in music isn't much of an issue here because I think that could be defined by the triplet.
00:48:695 - i think ddk flows better than kkd after a kkddkkk pattern Yeah, I don't think about flow too much when I map myself lel
01:05:812 - k ? the other patterns such as 01:06:871 - contain 3 k notes so i think adding one would make for a useful variation here I don't really understand what you mean D: It seems like there's variation to me. Anyways, I liked how it sounded so changed
01:14:106 - i got so used to these being always k k that im just like why would you break that system at this point I considered this, and it's definitely viable. However I thought I be able to grab the high emphasis on the vocals if I broke the pattern at the end, and made it a single k. It's my favourite part of the song, so I'd really like to highlight the vocals. Also, the clap sound isn't as strong as 01:08:459 (346) for example, so it didn't need the necessary hitsounding for it imo. However, I did change 00:20:459 (95) to d for consistency.
01:41:459 - just doubling the volume suddenly sounds pretty odd when playing how about going 60% for this and 01:42:871 - 80% for this ? Ok.
01:48:871 - add a note? that way you'd have 1/1 breaks only in this part and that timestamp has a sound Yeah, I think I did this intentionally but I forgot why xD
02:04:753 - k d k k ? I think I'd like to keep this alternating simply for the background vocals, and since the vocals are lower than the previous hit.
03:13:047 - i don't think this is the best place for this stream because no other stream goes through a barline, they all end there, and you basically have 3 instances of ddk ddk ddk there so you might wanna variate a bit anyways, how about http://puu.sh/nfkT3/b8abbf0109.jpg or without a 6plet? Fair enough (and isn't that a 7plet xD).
03:27:959 - add a note? Nothing wrong with that lel
03:43:753 - how about not repeating the same pattern twice but instead something like ddkkkkd or just invert the pattern to kkdkddk or something O, I did that intentionally, but I changed this to ddkkkkkd since that worked too.
03:45:165 - add a note? would make the finisher way more satisfying to hit and give it something more final instead of having a rest moment before it lol Errrr, I considered long and hard about this one when I first mapped this. It's definitely worth considering, as there is a sound, but I think that finishers are most emphasized if they have a 1/1 break on both sides of it. Also, I think it'd be nice to get a sense of variety with all the rhythms that I had only a 1/2 gap to precede the finisher, kinda to show the 'last finisher' of the song. But honestly, I don't really like how either one sounds, so I'd like to keep this for now and see what others say.

nice diff

Thanks for the useful mod

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Source:俺がお嬢様学校に『庶民サンプル』としてゲッツされた件
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Nathan: After looking through your difficulty, you did a great job of increasing the amount of rest moments. Just something I'd like to point out, now your kiai is a tad too easy. Don't hesitate to put longer 1/2 rhythms because you've reduced this quite a bit and allowed for some room to add hits. For example, you could add a hit at 00:59:283, and 01:00:342 and 01:05:283 to match the vocals even better; just remember not to overdo it. You could even leave the first kiai alone, and make the second kiai and the third kiai slightly harder for a difficulty curve withing the difficulty. Also, don't be afraid to use triplets. An example of beautiful triplet use are at places like 02:32:812 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22), so try to use that kind of rhythm as a reference.

Also, I think you should consider changing where to place some finishers. For example, 00:32:636 (2) and so on have finishers on every other hit. perhaps that's common in standard, but it's not too common in taiko (as far as I've seen). This has caused you to miss perhaps the most important finisher on 00:32:283 (1) in this section. Although your rhythm is possible and reasonable, I felt that the hits with the finisher didn't differ very much from the other hits in terms of how strong the instrumentals actually were. There were some other sections where I felt the finishers weren't necessary. A general tip on finishers is that they should be used for cymbal sounds, the start of a new sections (whenever there is a cymbal sound), and at very strongly emphasized areas such as 01:54:694 (34,35,36). Of course, whatever you prefer is always the best option, so feel free to ignore this advice if you feel otherwise.

Just some other things that could be changed; 01:06:165 (34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,1) - This is an example where you switch to instrumentals from vocals. This is perfectly fine, but I felt that matching to the vocals throughout the whole kiai would work better and keep consistency throughout the whole kiai. Same thing in the other kiais, at places like this or at 02:18:165 (38,39,40,41).

00:56:283 (1) - I think the finisher would work better if it was extended to 00:57:342 to get all the instrumentals.

01:55:577 - Rather than keeping this empty, you could add hits or make a spinner similar to the first pre-kiai. On a similar note, you should have a hit at 02:59:812. As I stated earlier while responding to Oko's mod, I think finishers are best emphasized with a 1/1 gap on each side, so the finisher at 03:00:165 (1) would be best emphasized if this is done. Also, the vocals at 02:59:812 to 03:00:165 say "zettai", so you should have a hit to match to that completely.

NO KDS

Oh, and all these edits were trying to get rid of an issue with the timing stamps

Last edited by newyams99 2016-02-22T00:47:31+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,917 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-02-22T00:20:15+00:00

seems like i can't count LOL
also @newyams: i fail to see the logic of leaving this up to Nathan because like... only your taiko diff uses that bg?

[muzu]
@bg at that speed they're all going to run into a wood pole what the hell is the point of this and why is one of them happy and the other 3 are concerned liek wh at

Structure wise i'm confused because all your triplets aren't in the kiai like triplets are a thing in muzu! you can use them in the sections that are really stressed such as the chorus! Also all your triplets are ddd kkk is a thing as well, very a bit lmao
your beginning is so 1/1 and 1/2 heavy that 00:16:224 - 00:25:400 - look out of place lol
00:07:930 (17,18) - crtlg? all your strong vocals seem to be on k
00:08:989 - if you did the above, consider a k for this lol
00:24:695 - you seem to have rest moments where the vocals have holds or pauses so this note kinda breaks this system?
00:32:283 - higher volume? newyams goes back to 80% here and you stay at 40 lol
00:32:283 - also tbh playing a d D d D d D d D pattern gets boring pretty fast, it's pretty monotonous and you don't even do 00:36:871 - 00:37:577 - as finishers so idk why you're doing it to begin with
00:37:930 (21,22) - DD???? what why
00:45:871 - i think this could use a d to fill in because otherwise this feels pretty empty
00:48:871 - why are you skipping this lol
00:56:283 - make the spinner end in 00:57:342 - ? (or maybe not it overlaps quite a lot notes in the kiai that way not sure)

o nvm the edit to that post already contains finisher things so i'll not be weirded out because of them lol

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-22T02:54:54+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
seems like i can't count LOL
also @newyams: i fail to see the logic of leaving this up to Nathan because like... only your taiko diff uses that bg?

I spent quite a while on the thing and couldn't figure out how to solve the problem cuz I don't resize my waifus for them to fit properly into osu backgrounds (sorry, I'm a scrub x.x), so I thought I'd leave it to Nathan to solve that issue. He might know how to resize the waifus nicely ^^. If you could explain more on how to fix this, I'd appreciate it, but I could always just change the BG to the Muzukashii's BG too.

@bg at that speed they're all going to run into a wood pole what the hell is the point of this and why is one of them happy and the other 3 are concerned liek wh at
^^Couldn't agree more^^

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-22T03:26:52+00:00

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would show bottom 2
0,0,"shomin_background.jpg",0,123
would show top 2
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wormito

11 posts

Joined October 2013

wormito 2016-02-23T02:20:07+00:00

Nicee work like this

newyams99

694 posts

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newyams99 2016-02-23T04:07:26+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
0,0,"shomin_background.jpg",0,-95
would show bottom 2
0,0,"shomin_background.jpg",0,123
would show top 2
?_?

Hard decisions were hard; after long thought, I decided to show the bottom two
I knew how to reposition the BG, but I couldn't figure out the purpose of the waifu resizing website you provided in the mod, since you seemed to recommend using it. It didn't seem like the website would solve the issue, so I was hoping you could've explained that, but my wording for asking this was unclear. Are there any good applications for this website other than resizing? Just for future BG reference. Sorry to bother you by finding the numbers

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,917 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-02-23T07:41:21+00:00

O that site can get rid of compression artifacts in images pretty neatly

It also has a cool upscaling algo but that wasnt relevant for the position here xD

I already got kd here nathan no need to give me 2 :d

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2016-02-24T03:55:19+00:00

oh hey here's my check as promised ~~and only three days late lol~~ no kudosu for this since i modded this a few months back
[]
[Easy]

01:11:812 (1) - finish here doesn't seem right.. i'm not hearing any cymbal crashes
looks fine for the most part, in my opinion

[Normal]

01:18:695 (1) - by using a repeat slider, you skipped out on the clap at 01:19:224, so maybe just use a 1/1 slider instead and place circles at 01:19:224 and at 01:19:400
01:33:695 (4,1) - why not use the same slider shape here for a more circular movement pattern? it's already moving in a circular way, but the angle of the (1) is a little off and makes this part look a little weird, kind of like an imperfect circle
02:31:930 (3,1,2) - blanket here is almost perfect, but i'm going to be nitpicky here and say that it could be better if you: move 02:33:695 (1,2) - to x459, y174; move the circled pivot to x434, y270
SPOILER

[Hard]

00:09:518 (6,3) - very minor thing, but i think these are supposed to be stacked (they're not)
00:14:636 (1,2) - this might be a tad confusing for a Hard difficulty in my opinion; why not just let the 1/8 repeat slider continue up to the white tick?
00:27:342 (2) - there's this odd bend near the slider end that doesn't really look that good; why not just get rid of the second last pivot and have the slider look something like this?
SPOILER
00:30:695 (3) - if you included a circle at this red tick, why not include one at 00:29:989?
01:18:695 (1) - similar suggestion was made in Normal and can also be applied here
01:19:577 (4,5,1) - the pauses in between these notes feel a little weird because there are still beats you can use, the following two points can potentially help fix this issue
1. potential triple by placing circles at 01:19:753 and 01:19:842
2. 01:19:930 (5) - there is a beat on the red offbeat after this, so this pause in the gameplay feels a little weird when compared to the music; maybe make this a 1/2 slider?
02:08:106 - pause here also feels a little weird; there's no pause here in the other two choruses, so why place one in this chorus?

[]
i'll start hunting for mods for my diff soon; i also need to fix up some hitsound stuff on my diff so expect an update in the upcoming days. hope this helps your diffs though o:

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-24T04:12:58+00:00

I'll see if I can use the site in the future

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2016-02-24T04:43:18+00:00

wheres my kd :U

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-02-24T04:45:58+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
I already got kd here nathan no need to give me 2 :d

whoops xD brain afk

@newyams thnx alot for the further advice; I have updated it but I'm still continuing to make further changes. Also your diff updated

@doormat I'll be getting quite a few mods myself, also thnx a lot for the mod

The flow of the kiai times seems to be the biggest problem, mostly in the hard diff, so I'll look to remap most of it (~~probs all of it~~, nah I'm too lazy for that )

Surono wrote:
wheres my kd :U

Sorry, I forgot

2 ppl posted mods so long that it breaks the mouse wheel going down the page and I overlooked it

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-24T05:06:00+00:00

Hey, just a few things I'd like to say on the Insane that I noticed while playing.

EDIT: NO KDS, I will eventually mod all the difficulties, possibly on a different post.

I only have about 400pp in standard, so here's the play with the trash score

Doormat's Insane

In general, I felt you could add many more finishers at places such as the start of new inherited points (and transition points), or where there are places of high emphasis such as the head of 00:15:342 (1) and the head of 00:23:106 (3) respectively. Claps could also be added for more accurate matching of the claps in the song; you've only done it sometimes in the map. For example, the tail of 00:20:283 (4) which doesn't have a clap when there is a clearly audible clap sound in the song. Your clap usage is also inconsistent in places like the head of 00:21:342 (2) which doesn't have a clap while 00:19:930 (2) has a clap that is matched to the same drum beat (it sounds like).

00:04:048 - I thought the beginning was slightly unnecessarily difficult up to 00:13:753, and the spacing of some of the jumps should be reduce imo. Some parts that could be made easier are places like 00:05:283 (4,1), where it could flow a bit better and the jump could be reduced, or 00:06:165 (3,4) where the jump could also be reduced.

00:09:253 (6) - This hit doesn't fit well with the music imo, and should be removed since it's also the beginning of the song for a simpler rhythm.

00:44:459 - I hear a drum sound here, and during the testplay I expected a hit here knowing the song somewhat well so I hit 00:44:636 (5) too early. Perhaps add a hit?

00:44:547 - ^ This isn't as strongly recommended.

00:47:283 - ^

00:47:371 - ^

00:48:518 - ^
All of these suggestions are the same in the section at 01:42:871.

00:53:459 (1) - If I remember correctly, I think I sliderbroke here, maybe because of the pattern's flow (idk if this is bad flow, I'm a scrub modder). How about something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4596373
The triplet is placed under the head of slider, while slider 1 is placed above slider 6 of the previous combo to flow a bit better.

01:02:283 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Perhaps it's just me being bad at standard, but I found this overlap between circles 3, 5 and 6 extremely hard to read (this is probably where the HP dip was in my play).

01:08:812 - The kiai ending here is inconsistent with the other two kiais.

01:10:577 (2) - Move to x: 384 and y:172. I think the overlap with slider 5 will look neater and the jump pattern will look more symmetrical.

01:20:989 (4,5,6) - Seems odd to me that this triplet isn't spaced like 01:21:695 (1,2,3) and 01:22:400 (5,6,7). Perhaps change it? Doesn't matter tho.

01:55:047 (4) - Maybe properly put this under circle 3.

01:58:400 (1) - ^ Under the tail of slider 3.

02:06:695 (1) - This blanket could be made better.

02:09:871 (2,5) - This overlap was kinda ugly imo. Perhaps move circle 2 to be blanketed by slider 5?

02:13:930 - This nyan nyan part is very easy compared to the rest of the kiai, and is also easy compared to the waa waa section in the first kiai. I thought you could've made this section's spacing slightly more challenging.

02:23:812 (1) - This could be a 1/2 repeat slider so that it can catch the sound at 02:23:989.

02:29:459 (1) - ^

02:33:342 (4) - This spacing is very misleading and could be misread as a 1/2 rhythm. Move farther? (I surprisingly didn't miss or sliderbreak here).

02:35:900 (1) - I think this spinner would have a better effect starting at 02:37:047 and ending at 02:37:930 with a finisher, since the low piano has a low extended sound there.

02:53:459 (3,4) - Perhaps make this rhythm somewhat more interesting than just two circles, since you had a rhythm like 02:50:636 (3,4) previously (although that has vocals to be matched to).

02:54:518 - Perhaps add a hit here or make slider 4 a slider that ends here? I feel like this addition is pretty important for transitioning into the buildup.

03:05:283 (3,4) - I don't like how this flows, js. Changing the direction of slider 4 could be a possibility.

03:09:695 (3,4) - ^ I think this would flow more naturally if you did Ctrl + G on 03:09:872 (4,5) and reposition slider 1 so that this flows better. I was thinking of something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4596470

03:23:106 - This ending section should definitely be made more challenging (it was ez pz

). This can be done simply by making jumps of course, but I think this is especially important to be done for a buildup into the final moments of the song. An example could be making 03:44:283 (1,2,3,4,1) into a much more difficult jump pattern, because this is rather easy for how much is going on in the song at that moment.

Those were some more major things that I found. Good luck

ptar124

Featured Artist

230 posts

Joined April 2014

ptar124 2016-02-28T15:20:44+00:00

Hi, from my queue, read next time, okay?

newyam's Oni

00:20:283 (95,96) - change 95 to kat if you want to follow the vocal or change 96 to kat if you want to follow the clapping sound
00:23:636 (113) - change this to a kat if you want to follow the vocal
00:23:812 (114) - I don't see how this could possibly be a kat, the vocal is not present and it's on a pretty low downbeat
00:23:812 (114) - suggestion: you might to add a spinner here to accompany the closed drum roll and the vocal
01:28:753 (467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475) - change to d-k-d-k-d-k-d-k-d to accompany the melody
01:34:930 (492,493) - Ctrl+G to match with the chiptune
01:36:342 (500,501) - ^

not much to mod, really, nothing crucial and it already seemed quite good. Your map style kinda reminds me of OzzyOzrock's though, being easy at the start and get really real towards the end. Nice map, keep it up!

Muzukashii

00:08:459 (19,20,21,22) - you might want to change those to d-k-k-d to match the vocal, the way it is now just doesn't quite fit
00:11:812 (33,34,35) - either change 33 to a kat or Ctrl+G at 00:11:989 (34,35) and then add a kat at 00:12:342
00:20:989 (23) - you don't really need a finish here, there's nothing to emphasize
00:23:106 (32) - add a finish here
00:46:930 (10) - if you're goind to add finish to 9 and 11, why not add it here as well!
01:06:518 (35,36) - the part you're mapping to is really faint, you might want to map this differently
01:29:636 (40) - again, nothing to emphasize
01:43:400 (2,3) - finish! XD
01:46:224 (10) - ^
02:07:930 (45,46) - dons might be a better choice here
02:10:400 (10,11,12) - this does feel a little empty considering the parts around it, adding a don between 11 and 12 would be a nice choice
02:18:165 (40,41,42,43) - move 42 and 43 back half a beat and change 41 to a kat

that's pretty much all, most of them were about hitsounding, note placing errors are hardly present. Nice map!

Timing/Metadata

Timing seems solid to me, no metadata errors at a quick look.
Although generally, less notes means more HP Drain, HP7 in a 3:40 drain Muzukashii does seem a bit too high for me, I'm no expert at these though. Other difficulty settings seem fine.
Background resolution is correct, everything looks good!

Overall, it's really nice, just minor errors here and there, it'll be polished in no time! Also, remember to submit your M4M! Good luck with ranking!

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-02-29T00:30:46+00:00

ptar124 wrote:
Hi, from my queue, read next time, okay?

newyam's Oni

00:20:283 (95,96) - change 95 to kat if you want to follow the vocal or change 96 to kat if you want to follow the clapping sound I see what you mean, but I'd like to keep consistency with places like 01:14:106 (383,384). For more information why I didn't change it there, refer to my response on Okotoraku's mod.
00:23:636 (113) - change this to a kat if you want to follow the vocal I modified this rhythm, since it wasn't good to start with.
00:23:812 (114) - I don't see how this could possibly be a kat, the vocal is not present and it's on a pretty low downbeat Yeah I realized that reading the suggestion above lel
00:23:812 (114) - suggestion: you might to add a spinner here to accompany the closed drum roll and the vocal I think it'd miss out on lots of things that I could do here. Also, spinners used like this aren't as suitable in harder difficulties as they are in easier difficulties.
01:28:753 (467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475) - change to d-k-d-k-d-k-d-k-d to accompany the melody Sure, that works.
01:34:930 (492,493) - Ctrl+G to match with the chiptune I think the colours that I have rn match the pitch better.
01:36:342 (500,501) - ^ ^

not much to mod, really, nothing crucial and it already seemed quite good. Your map style kinda reminds me of OzzyOzrock's though, being easy at the start and get really real towards the end. Nice map, keep it up!

Thanks for your mod

Updated Oni

osu file format v14

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Creator:Nathan Kiss
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Source:俺がお嬢様学校に『庶民サンプル』としてゲッツされた件
Tags:Shomin Sample OP Opening ore ga ojousama gakkou ni shomin sample toshite gets sareta ken newyams99 Doormat
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ecdonald

336 posts

Joined January 2012

ecdonald 2016-03-01T07:24:04+00:00

Hello~, from my queue

I could only found slight issues but hope it contribute the mapset to be polished even if just a little ;_;

[General]
(just saying) how about adding soft-whistle(not costom hitsound) on the piano part? and the accordion part, I'd like to use normal-whistle(not costom)

[Hard]
00:09:518 (6,1) - I think it's ok, but felt a bit strange that, in 00:04:577 (2,3) - 00:06:695 (4,1) - 00:07:400 (2,3) - etc, there has jumps but 00:09:518 (6,1) - , which has similar pitch-upping to the formers, doesen't have jump.
01:10:753 (2) - this is resonable for consistent distance spacing, but I would move a bit left to nice-looking distance, how about like this? http://puu.sh/nqESE/25e96a2d07.jpg
01:13:577 (1) - remove NC like 01:02:283 (2) - ?
01:32:989 (4) - how about changing to the symmetrical one of 01:31:930 (2) - ? would be looks nicer
02:22:930 (2) - very minor, but apparently incosistent spacing. how about x:346 y:10?
02:31:930 (3) - nice heart <3
02:35:636 (3) - really minor, moving to x:325 y:199 makes perfect equilateral triangle 1.80x
02:35:900 (1) - add whistle?
03:06:871 (3) - move a bit left like this? http://puu.sh/nqFoI/612f688c2e.jpg (making isosceles triangle)
03:14:106 (4) - add clap like 03:02:812 (3) - ?

[Doormat's Insane]
00:43:224 (8) - move a bit higher to avoid stack 00:42:342 (2) - like 00:42:165 (1,9) - and 00:41:812 (6,3) - ?
00:44:636 (5) - I would change the shape intto http://puu.sh/nqDPX/3abccf88eb.jpg to make easier to read first 1/1 gap pettern between 00:44:283 (4,5) - and flow to 00:45:165 (1,2) -
00:56:989 (2) - how about change to normal samplest starting at 4th reverse to follow the instrument?
01:14:283 (5,2) - and 01:56:283 (3) - move a bit lower like this?http://puu.sh/nqE06/01648219db.jpg It makes 01:13:047 (1) - 's end and 01:13:930 (4,5) - 's distance equal.
01:21:695 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - in the piano part, I think avoiding stack is nicer, like 01:20:989 (4,5,6) - (01:23:106 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - )
01:50:636 (3,4) - how about like this? http://puu.sh/nqEgi/2c1e520686.jpg
02:09:518 (4,3) - these are touching to HP bar, make it a bit lower?

overall, really nice mapset! good luck

ferret irl

212 posts

Joined July 2015

ferret irl 2016-03-01T07:44:28+00:00

Change Doormat's Insane to Doormat's Hard
Change Hard to Insane and change the AR from 8 to 9

kds plz

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-03-01T07:52:34+00:00

ecdonald wrote:
Hello~, from my queue I could only found slight issues but hope it contribute the mapset to be polished even if just a little ;_;

[notice][General]
(just saying) how about adding soft-whistle(not costom hitsound) on the piano part? and the accordion part, I'd like to use normal-whistle(not costom)

[Hard]
00:09:518 (6,1) - I think it's ok, but felt a bit strange that, in 00:04:577 (2,3) - 00:06:695 (4,1) - 00:07:400 (2,3) - etc, there has jumps but 00:09:518 (6,1) - , which has similar pitch-upping to the formers, doesen't have jump. fixed
01:10:753 (2) - this is resonable for consistent distance spacing, but I would move a bit left to nice-looking distance, how about like this? [color=#00BF00[/color]http://puu.sh/nqESE/25e96a2d07.jpg fixed
01:13:577 (1) - remove NC like 01:02:283 (2) - ? How did i not spot this? xD fixed
01:32:989 (4) - how about changing to the symmetrical one of 01:31:930 (2) - ? would be looks nicer Yh, youre right
02:22:930 (2) - very minor, but apparently incosistent spacing. how about x:346 y:10? fixed
02:31:930 (3) - nice heart <3 Ty <3
02:35:636 (3) - really minor, moving to x:325 y:199 makes perfect equilateral triangle 1.80x fixed
02:35:900 (1) - add whistle? added
03:06:871 (3) - move a bit left like this? http://puu.sh/nqFoI/612f688c2e.jpg (making isosceles triangle) fixed
03:14:106 (4) - add clap like 03:02:812 (3) - ? Another thing I missed xD Added!

Thanks a lot for the mod

_handholding

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_handholding 2016-03-01T07:59:20+00:00

Chewy-san wrote:
Change Hard to Insane and change the AR from 8 to 9 Fixed! I should pay more attention to my maps and not to make such silly mistakes like this anymore

kds plz

Thnx for the mod. You helped me fix a crucial flaw in my mapset. Pls no denyerino Newyams

GENDER BENDER

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GENDER BENDER 2016-03-01T21:39:16+00:00

Hi, from my NM queue

Insane:

I felt like I needed to be really picky modding this because it was pretty good already.
So here are some suggestions:

00:05:459 (1) - I feel that the spacing here is a little large, the music does not call for it.
00:06:871 (1) - This spacing is a little large as well, it's almost double the spacing of 00:07:577 (3) and they sound similar.
00:08:636 (2) - This note felt so much better when I moved it up a bit.
00:25:224 (1) - This entire combo I feel should be a bit more spaced, to build up for the huge jump part right after.
00:59:106 (1) - This note felt weird, jump was too large.
01:01:753 (1) - I don't know if I'm just bad with stacks, but this jump pattern was a big confusing.
01:07:930 (2) - This note felt kinda unnatural, dunno how to fix it tho sorry.
02:32:900 (2) - Kinda hard to see these stacks, maybe put them next to each other instead of stacks?
03:23:106 (1) - I feel like the notes after this could be a bit more spaced, even though it's not part of kiai it's the finale of the song and would feel more awesome.

- Another thing I noticed is that in kiai, the snap of the 1st note of a new combo is inconsistant, not sure if on purpose...
For example 00:15:342 (1) has half the snap distance as 01:00:518 (1) or 01:03:342 (1) .
Some of them are a bit difficult to reach.
- I noticed that you placed whistle on some notes, but I couldn't really hear it while playing, it's sooo quiet.

Anyways, that's all I found. Song is great, good luck with your map!

newyams99

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newyams99 2016-03-02T05:13:58+00:00

Nathan Kiss wrote:
Chewy-san wrote:
Change Hard to Insane and change the AR from 8 to 9 Fixed! I should pay more attention to my maps and not to make such silly mistakes like this anymore

kds plz
Thnx for the mod. You helped me fix a crucial flaw in my mapset. Pls no denyerino Newyams

Sorry, denyerinoed D:

Cool mod, thx for the metadata check

Doormat

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Doormat 2016-03-03T04:53:26+00:00

newyams

newyams99 wrote:
Hey, just a few things I'd like to say on the Insane that I noticed while playing.
Doormat's Insane

In general, I felt you could add many more finishers at places such as the start of new inherited points (and transition points), or where there are places of high emphasis such as the head of 00:15:342 (1) and the head of 00:23:106 (3) respectively. Claps could also be added for more accurate matching of the claps in the song; you've only done it sometimes in the map. For example, the tail of 00:20:283 (4) which doesn't have a clap when there is a clearly audible clap sound in the song. Your clap usage is also inconsistent in places like the head of 00:21:342 (2) which doesn't have a clap while 00:19:930 (2) has a clap that is matched to the same drum beat (it sounds like).

00:04:048 - I thought the beginning was slightly unnecessarily difficult up to 00:13:753, and the spacing of some of the jumps should be reduce imo. Some parts that could be made easier are places like 00:05:283 (4,1), where it could flow a bit better and the jump could be reduced, or 00:06:165 (3,4) where the jump could also be reduced. i intended to use bigger jumps for those parts in the intro to help emphasize certain parts, like the new combo or the claps, and it isn't too difficult for an insane i think-

00:09:253 (6) - This hit doesn't fit well with the music imo, and should be removed since it's also the beginning of the song for a simpler rhythm. there's a pretty noticeable drum beat here that i wanted to use, so that's why i included it. it also signifies the part in the intro where it starts to get a little more intense, e.g. claps start coming into play

00:44:459 - I hear a drum sound here, and during the testplay I expected a hit here knowing the song somewhat well so I hit 00:44:636 (5) too early. Perhaps add a hit?

00:44:547 - ^ This isn't as strongly recommended. didn't add this one

00:47:283 - ^

00:47:371 - ^ didn't add this one either

00:48:518 - ^ i wanted to emphasize the pause in the background instruments here over the drums
All of these suggestions are the same in the section at 01:42:871. applied same thing there that i did here

00:53:459 (1) - If I remember correctly, I think I sliderbroke here, maybe because of the pattern's flow (idk if this is bad flow, I'm a scrub modder). How about something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4596373
The triplet is placed under the head of slider, while slider 1 is placed above slider 6 of the previous combo to flow a bit better.

01:02:283 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Perhaps it's just me being bad at standard, but I found this overlap between circles 3, 5 and 6 extremely hard to read (this is probably where the HP dip was in my play). mm maybe; i think it has more to deal with the 5,6 being at the same spot causing a break in the movement. this was intentional because i wanted to highlight the clap here that way, but i'll probably change it if others suggest i do

01:08:812 - The kiai ending here is inconsistent with the other two kiais. b-but it isn't???

01:10:577 (2) - Move to x: 384 and y:172. I think the overlap with slider 5 will look neater and the jump pattern will look more symmetrical.

01:20:989 (4,5,6) - Seems odd to me that this triplet isn't spaced like 01:21:695 (1,2,3) and 01:22:400 (5,6,7). Perhaps change it? Doesn't matter tho.

01:55:047 (4) - Maybe properly put this under circle 3. the slight offset in stack here was intentional, but i can see why some people would point this out. will change if others suggest i do so

01:58:400 (1) - ^ Under the tail of slider 3. b-but it is under the tail of slider 3?

02:06:695 (1) - This blanket could be made better. blanket looks fine to me, actually

02:09:871 (2,5) - This overlap was kinda ugly imo. Perhaps move circle 2 to be blanketed by slider 5? woops that was a mistake. fixed

02:13:930 - This nyan nyan part is very easy compared to the rest of the kiai, and is also easy compared to the waa waa section in the first kiai. I thought you could've made this section's spacing slightly more challenging. i wanted this part to be a little relaxing actually, given how the rest of the kiai before it was a little more intense than the first

02:23:812 (1) - This could be a 1/2 repeat slider so that it can catch the sound at 02:23:989. mm maybe; i think the sustained vocals here is a better fit for what i'm going in this pattern, so i'll leave it as is for now

02:29:459 (1) - ^^

02:33:342 (4) - This spacing is very misleading and could be misread as a 1/2 rhythm. Move farther? (I surprisingly didn't miss or sliderbreak here).

02:35:900 (1) - I think this spinner would have a better effect starting at 02:37:047 and ending at 02:37:930 with a finisher, since the low piano has a low extended sound there. in my opinion having a short spinner (2.5 beats) like that feels a little out of place because of how there's no music from 02:35:812 to 02:37:047, which is why i opted to place the spinner where i placed it.

02:53:459 (3,4) - Perhaps make this rhythm somewhat more interesting than just two circles, since you had a rhythm like 02:50:636 (3,4) previously (although that has vocals to be matched to).

02:54:518 - Perhaps add a hit here or make slider 4 a slider that ends here? I feel like this addition is pretty important for transitioning into the buildup.

03:05:283 (3,4) - I don't like how this flows, js. Changing the direction of slider 4 could be a possibility. i think it's fine tbh; i intended for the flow here to be kind of roundabout, which is how i approached this difficulty. i thought the concept of moving around back and forth, going around in circles, etc. was neat

03:09:695 (3,4) - ^ I think this would flow more naturally if you did Ctrl + G on 03:09:872 (4,5) and reposition slider 1 so that this flows better. I was thinking of something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4596470 wanted a back and forth pattern here; see above for reasoning

03:23:106 - This ending section should definitely be made more challenging (it was ez pz ). This can be done simply by making jumps of course, but I think this is especially important to be done for a buildup into the final moments of the song. An example could be making 03:44:283 (1,2,3,4,1) into a much more difficult jump pattern, because this is rather easy for how much is going on in the song at that moment. actually, i intended for this part to start increasing in slider velocity sort of like it's speeding up to the end, but i also think you're right about it being too easy. increased some of the distances

Those were some more major things that I found. Good luck

ecdonald

ecdonald wrote:
[Doormat's Insane]
00:43:224 (8) - move a bit higher to avoid stack 00:42:342 (2) - like 00:42:165 (1,9) - and 00:41:812 (6,3) - ? stack here was intentional
00:44:636 (5) - I would change the shape intto http://puu.sh/nqDPX/3abccf88eb.jpg to make easier to read first 1/1 gap pettern between 00:44:283 (4,5) - and flow to 00:45:165 (1,2) - changed it a different way by changing the previous slider so it should flow more nicer since there's no longer a 1/1 gap
00:56:989 (2) - how about change to normal samplest starting at 4th reverse to follow the instrument? i think it'd be a hassle to change half of the 1/8 repeat here so that half of it was a normal sampleset. there's also the issue of it being potentially too loud, since normal sampleset is generally louder than soft sampleset; i don't want it to be like a loud spam
01:14:283 (5,2) - and 01:56:283 (3) - move a bit lower like this?http://puu.sh/nqE06/01648219db.jpg It makes 01:13:047 (1) - 's end and 01:13:930 (4,5) - 's distance equal. ?? sorry but i don't understand the picture. ended up changing it so that 01:13:753 (3,4,5) - are all equal distance though
01:21:695 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - in the piano part, I think avoiding stack is nicer, like 01:20:989 (4,5,6) - (01:23:106 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ) yeah; fixed it from newyam's mod
01:50:636 (3,4) - how about like this? http://puu.sh/nqEgi/2c1e520686.jpg
02:09:518 (4,3) - these are touching to HP bar, make it a bit lower?[/notice]

overall, really nice mapset! good luck

warpgenius

warpgenius wrote:
Hi, from my NM queue

Insane:

I felt like I needed to be really picky modding this because it was pretty good already.
So here are some suggestions:

00:05:459 (1) - I feel that the spacing here is a little large, the music does not call for it. wanted to emphasize the new combo here, but i can see your point. will consider lowering it if more people point this out since this still plays fine for the most part
00:06:871 (1) - This spacing is a little large as well, it's almost double the spacing of 00:07:577 (3) and they sound similar. wanted to emphasize the claps here
00:08:636 (2) - This note felt so much better when I moved it up a bit.
00:25:224 (1) - This entire combo I feel should be a bit more spaced, to build up for the huge jump part right after. i think the spacing here is fine
00:59:106 (1) - This note felt weird, jump was too large.
01:01:753 (1) - I don't know if I'm just bad with stacks, but this jump pattern was a big confusing. it's actually slightly farther distance from the previous pink/red (1). but as i mentioned before, my intention was to create a sort of roundabout, back-and-forth feel for this difficulty so i think it's fine
01:07:930 (2) - This note felt kinda unnatural, dunno how to fix it tho sorry. i came up with something; made the (2) feel a little more natural to play
02:32:900 (2) - Kinda hard to see these stacks, maybe put them next to each other instead of stacks? i think they're fine and pretty easy to read; nothing's really obstructing them in a way that would make it hard to read
03:23:106 (1) - I feel like the notes after this could be a bit more spaced, even though it's not part of kiai it's the finale of the song and would feel more awesome. yep; newyams said the same thing

- Another thing I noticed is that in kiai, the snap of the 1st note of a new combo is inconsistant, not sure if on purpose... was sort of intentional to give an emphasis to the new combo
For example 00:15:342 (1) has half the snap distance as 01:00:518 (1) or 01:03:342 (1) .
Some of them are a bit difficult to reach.
- I noticed that you placed whistle on some notes, but I couldn't really hear it while playing, it's sooo quiet. i just copied the hitsounds ;w;

Anyways, that's all I found. Song is great, good luck with your map!

no comment = fixed. thanks for the mods. sorry this was late again; i was trying to apply some custom hitsounds for my diff and then i gave up and just copied your hitsounds from the hard lol. i did add/change a couple finishes/claps/whistles where i thought it was appropriate though o:

edit: i forgot to give you the updated difficulty lmao. here it is: http://puu.sh/nsWGc/b44b5a742b.zip

edit2: i'm probably going to still mess around with the hitsounds a bit so there'll probably be another update soon

newyams99

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newyams99 2016-03-04T04:44:02+00:00

Doormat wrote:
01:08:812 - The kiai ending here is inconsistent with the other two kiais. b-but it isn't??? xD The timeline baited me =_= http://puu.sh/nu7NZ/f2602e4a0e.PNG

01:58:400 (1) - ^ Under the tail of slider 3. b-but it is under the tail of slider 3? This is a very very small adjustment, but just wanted to put it in there.

Also just wanted to point out that I think you missed a hit at 02:30:077.

Doormat

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Doormat 2016-03-04T05:17:46+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
Doormat wrote:
01:58:400 (1) - ^ Under the tail of slider 3. b-but it is under the tail of slider 3? This is a very very small adjustment, but just wanted to put it in there.
Also just wanted to point out that I think you missed a hit at 02:30:077.

i made the small adjustment to the tail slider thing at 01:58:400 (1) just to be super safe, and good catch on the hit at 02:30:077! added and also did some more work on hitsounds.

~~updated Insane here: http://puu.sh/nu9Gp/68ab516709.zip~~

edit: just found a huge thing that broke the difficulty by accident and fixed it: http://puu.sh/nufS0/c88e3c1a84.zip

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Seijiro 2016-03-04T22:52:01+00:00

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