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Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-15T00:55:20+00:00

ok i'm done
dqs01733 is done
damnae is done
smokeman is done

i stole damnae's hitsounding for my diffs and dqs, idk what smokeman did but it's not stealing damnae the volumes are wrong for that
I'll mod the gds too i guess
minor self modding for insane
i'll adjust the hitsounding in my diffs to fit my rhythms better

Natteke desu

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Natteke desu 2016-02-15T01:13:32+00:00

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Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-15T15:07:37+00:00

adjusted my hitsounding
will do a part sb for hard for the sake of easier modding edit done.

[smokeman]
stole your combocolors and am currently using more saturated versions of them because yours seemed a tad dull to me, if you want the same, take them
something went wrong with your volumes when doing hitsounds / stealing damnae's

can you settle down for a break, the break in hard / or easy, normal? it's there because it's functional and actually fitting, mapping it out and then skipping the last 4 second part seems pretty weird in the context of the entire set

00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is the diff below hard, could you nerf this a bit since it also requires 5 consecutive 1/2 clicks which hard also requires
00:32:708 (3,2,3) - overlapping like this looks pretty uhhh ingame
00:37:735 (5,2,3) - same except less noticable
00:43:573 - 01:45:843 - not lowering sv in these parts at all makes them feel too fast actually (IMO)
00:47:465 (3,1) - PLS
also 00:48:762 (1,2) - 00:50:059 (1,2) - 01:51:032 (1,2) - 01:52:330 (1,2) - seem to be there just to force a hold, can you settle down for just circles because that's less overmap ?_?
00:55:897 (3,4,5) - 02:50:384 (4,5,1) - etc if you're going to do this you should do it more often because right now everything stacks and these 2 just don't follow that concept, and not stacking = more SR so i'd prefer making this more predictable
01:04:816 (2,3,1) - tbh this looks like you attempted to custom stack ingame but looks like you actually fialed, how about http://puu.sh/n8Xvx/71da64faf4.jpg
01:14:708 - to 01:25:087 - i interpret these sections to be a bit calmer than the rest of the kiai so simplifying
01:16:492 (2,3) - 01:21:681 (2,3) - to one slider each would fit the atmosphere a bit better imo same applies to other kiais
01:23:789 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:519 (1,2,1,2) - why do you do different comboing for arguably similar things
02:00:600 (2,3,1) - uhhm eww
02:11:789 (1,4) - you seem to like that even though it looks kinda odd to me lol
02:31:897 (3,1) - fuck im triggered
03:33:519 (1,1) - asadfasdf

im mostly triggered by visuals of this diff i think you can make some major improvements in it with minimal effort

[dqs]
00:40:816 (7,1) - transition between 6,7,1 feels wayy too liniear to be intuitive at this AR
00:54:762 (3,4,5) - 01:10:330 (3,4,5) - i can hardly find the basis for these except being additive
01:29:789 (3,4,1) - this seems hella unnecessary for an 1/4 jump, like really...
01:43:087 (7,1) - distance feels ultra short lmao like it's even shorter than on average
01:44:708 (1,2) - this nearly trolled me for reading similarly to 1/4 and almost made me panic
02:01:411 (3) - nc
02:45:843 (2,3,4) - given the concept of your other sliders this should point downwards really i wanted to click its end :c
really smart use of structures

@damnae
can you post reasoning for bg again, if we don't have this on the thread people will make assumptions

Smokeman

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Smokeman 2016-02-15T17:51:43+00:00

useless mod?

[easy?]

00:02:060 (1,2) - mov both of those to the left so 00:03:357 (2,3) - "looks" more circular
00:15:032 (1,3) - these look kinda awkward since they are this close to eachother.
02:50:708 (1,3) - move these a bit further aprt

[normal?]

00:52:005 (2) - ctrld+h this ? (00:51:357 (1,2) - it wouldnt hurt to tilt these a bit more noticeable)
02:18:276 (4,2) -http://puu.sh/n8THa/ce10831b27.jpg you move this, but it dosnt rly matter.
03:10:168 (4,2) - ok nvm about the one above
03:43:249 (2,3) - you can do this in normal? nice.

[sSmokeman's advanced?]

00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - ask oko about this
03:40:005 - go map the rest you lazy fuck

[hard collab?]

00:02:708 (3) - make thi slinear. Feels better imo (just remove the second white dot/square/point thingy)
00:10:816 (4) - move this a bit to the right so its not nearly touching the one before
00:21:843 (2) - center this between 00:21:519 (1,3) - (~109|305)
00:43:573 (1,2) - blanket these properly or smth. (its too noticebale imo)
01:04:168 (4) - this doesnt rly fit. I think a 1/2 slider or repeat 1/4 would emphasize this part better. Or just leave it empty, a small pause could be cool aswell.
02:06:438 (4,1) - (This movement fits better)
03:02:384 (1,2,3) - this square trigers me (idc about slider liniency). Making this a pointy pattern would feel better imo http://puu.sh/n8V8O/5fa763a821.jpg. Also putting more spacing between 2 and 3 follows the vocals on 3 better. (change 4 respectively)
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6) - equal spacing between those since its a hard? Spacing changes like these might be a bit too advanced.
03:36:114 (1,2) - its just a touch~ . Move 2 somehow a bit farther away.

[insane?]

00:43:573 (1,3) - why no bézier? (01:08:222 (1) - Kappa)
00:52:816 (4) - NC so there is a better visual transition to the 1/2 (mb its because i cant read 8,7 .-.)
01:36:276 (2) - stack this on 1 instead? I feel moving towards 01:36:438 (3) - makes this pattern play smoother.
01:38:059 (1,2) - same
01:40:654 (1,2) -
01:43:249 (1,2) -
in the kiai before aswell. (ok mb i m just wierd and this doesnt matter but i m still going to point it out)
01:55:087 (4) - NC thing
03:08:870 (1) - bêzier mia
03:10:168 (1,2) - ctrl+g the rythme ? It feels rly akward to end the slider on a strong beat 03:10:492 -
03:15:357 (1,2) - same

[damnae's insane!]

02:27:357 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - mb dont copy paste this.

who am i kidding this is perfects Kreygasm

[dq's insane?]

I have problems playing this game in general so i m just going to point out the spots i felt like complete trash.

00:15:032 (1,2) - this plays good but having a similar patern liek this after a jump is quite hard to play. (on another note this 00:16:816 (4,5,1) - looks cool af)
02:26:222 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - reduce the spacing between the two paterns? I know
02:50:546 (5,1) - since this was spaced more than the others i could play it
03:38:384 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the transition between the two paterns is a bit too rough imo. You go from a high spaced arc 03:38:546 (5,6,1) - into a low spaced zigg-zagg. 03:38:708 (6) - If this was the start of the zigg-zagg it would be easier to play since you can just follow along the music. (Its nto aproblem here 00:21:519 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - since the stacks are pretty easy to play.)

all of these things i mentioned prolly dont matter if you can play the game but i think they make sense... i just cant play them D:

[huh?]

01:16:005 (1,2) - ctrl+g the rythm? (I mentioned this above aswell, but in an "extra" it doesnt bother much while playing for some reason .-.)
01:36:276 (4) - remove this?
01:38:870 (4) -
01:41:141 (2,3,4,5) - when i do pattern like these people keep telling me it sucks.... (If you remove the other ones then remove 4 here aswell)
01:44:059 (4) -
If you remove those the clap on the white ticks will be more "dramatic"/powerful/important/cooler. I see why you would still map it like this (i would myself), but i ll still mention it :^)

sry for my bs

Last edited by Smokeman 2016-02-15T19:08:14+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-15T18:24:54+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
useless mod?

[easy?]

00:02:060 (1,2) - mov both of those to the left so 00:03:357 (2,3) - "looks" more circular great idea
00:15:032 (1,3) - these look kinda awkward since they are this close to eachother. they are less close now
02:50:708 (1,3) - move these a bit further aprt done
[normal?]

00:52:005 (2) - ctrld+h this ? (00:51:357 (1,2) - it wouldnt hurt to tilt these a bit more noticeable) tilted
02:18:276 (4,2) -http://puu.sh/n8THa/ce10831b27.jpg you move this, but it dosnt rly matter. avoided
03:10:168 (4,2) - ok nvm about the one above did something similar to above
03:43:249 (2,3) - you can do this in normal? nice. idk i assume people who moved on from the lowest diff aren't complete retards
[sSmokeman's advanced?]

00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - ask oko about this said something
03:40:005 - go map the rest you lazy fuck said something
[hard collab?]

00:02:708 (3) - make thi slinear. Feels better imo (just remove the second white dot/square/point thingy) ok
00:10:816 (4) - move this a bit to the right so its not nearly touching the one before ok
00:21:843 (2) - center this between 00:21:519 (1,3) - (~109|305) not what i was going for with a copy paste pattern but i lowered 00:22:168 (3,4) - if that counts lol
00:43:573 (1,2) - blanket these properly or smth. (its too noticebale imo)
01:04:168 (4) - this doesnt rly fit. I think a 1/2 slider or repeat 1/4 would emphasize this part better. Or just leave it empty, a small pause could be cool aswell. if this gets pointed out again i'll consider stacing because changing rhythm would make everything inconsistent
02:06:438 (4,1) - (This movement fits better) gj enhu
03:02:384 (1,2,3) - this square trigers me (idc about slider liniency). Making this a pointy pattern would feel better imo http://puu.sh/n8V8O/5fa763a821.jpg. Also putting more spacing between 2 and 3 follows the vocals on 3 better. (change 4 respectively)
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6) - equal spacing between those since its a hard? Spacing changes like these might be a bit too advanced.
03:36:114 (1,2) - its just a touch~ . Move 2 somehow a bit farther away. done
[insane?]

00:43:573 (1,3) - why no bézier? (01:08:222 (1) - Kappa) the first 2 sliders of every slow part are not bezier as a design touch
00:52:816 (4) - NC so there is a better visual transition to the 1/2 (mb its because i cant read 8,7 .-.) done
01:36:276 (2) - stack this on 1 instead? I feel moving towards 01:36:438 (3) - makes this pattern play smoother.
01:38:059 (1,2) - same
01:40:654 (1,2) -
01:43:249 (1,2) - not sure about this, it feels pretty alright to me and you can interpret this as stopping for emphasis (cuz you start moving again on the stronger sound) but depending on how much negative feedback these get i'll definetely reconsider these as a whole!
in the kiai before aswell. (ok mb i m just wierd and this doesnt matter but i m still going to point it out)
01:55:087 (4) - NC thing z
03:08:870 (1) - bêzier mia FIXED
03:10:168 (1,2) - ctrl+g the rythme ? It feels rly akward to end the slider on a strong beat 03:10:492 - rhythm doesn't follow the drum or foreground track, it has been following the weird medlodical instrument in every other instance of this pattern in this diff and extra
03:15:357 (1,2) - same same
[huh?]

01:16:005 (1,2) - ctrl+g the rythm? (I mentioned this above aswell, but in an "extra" it doesnt bother much while playing for some reason .-.) this is why the rhythm in insane is like this!
01:36:276 (4) - remove this? depending if someone brings them up again i will substitute and rearrange to have all these on sliderends, i wanted some rhythmical diversity between parts
01:38:870 (4) -
01:41:141 (2,3,4,5) - when i do pattern like these people keep telling me it sucks.... (If you remove the other ones then remove 4 here aswell)
01:44:059 (4) -
If you remove those the clap on the white ticks will be more "dramatic"/powerful/important/cooler. I see why you would still map it like this (i would myself), but i ll still mention it :^) breaks hitsounding so uhm lol
sry for my bs

THANKs

Damnae

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Damnae 2016-02-15T18:58:31+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
02:27:357 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - mb dont copy paste this.

Yeah I was thinking of varying things a bit around there

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Okoratu 2016-02-15T19:04:24+00:00

fixed that by hitting resnap

Enhu

117 posts

Joined June 2013

Enhu 2016-02-15T21:09:40+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
useless mod?

[hard collab?]

02:06:438 (4,1) - (This movement fits better) ayy
03:02:384 (1,2,3) - this square trigers me (idc about slider liniency). Making this a pointy pattern would feel better imo http://puu.sh/n8V8O/5fa763a821.jpg. Also putting more spacing between 2 and 3 follows the vocals on 3 better. (change 4 respectively) that pattern fits better indeed, changed it
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6) - equal spacing between those since its a hard? Spacing changes like these might be a bit too advanced. i just re did the pattern, it was triggering me, i think it's easier now

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Okoratu 2016-02-16T09:34:12+00:00

updated everything while closing the holes in hitsounding wherever they were present in mine, dqs, and one thing in smokeman's

ecdonald

336 posts

Joined January 2012

ecdonald 2016-02-17T04:21:57+00:00

Hello, I tried to mod this map. looks very well made and I'm so noob of modding so I could only find slight issues but hope it contribute the mapset to be polished even if just a little

Easy and Normal looks fine for me owo

[smokeman's advanced]
00:50:384 (2,3) - you made 00:49:087 (2,3) - like blanket so I'd recommend that you make this point like blanket too for better looking http://puu.sh/naPuu/857b5d702e.jpg (example)
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6,1) - I would like more if placing be like 00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - 's polygon

[collab hard]
00:11:465 (2,3,4,5,6) - I would make it pentagon
00:44:870 (1,2,1) - I think the inconsistent spacing should be avoid
01:13:087 (3) - how about making equilateral triangle among 01:12:600 (2) - and 01:12:114 (1) - 's end like this? http://puu.sh/naPqP/566979b223.jpg

[Insane?]

01:05:141 (3) - I think it's ok but a bit too low (hits the score meter 2.0x), how about moving the same cordinate of 01:04:005 (4) -?
01:08:059 (5) - how about moving to x:343 y:155 to make like equal distance among 01:07:735 (3) - and 01:07:411 (2) -'s end? it would looks better.
02:37:735 (1) - move to a bit westly lower like this? http://puu.sh/naPlu/b815cb9971.jpg
02:50:384 (5) - move to x:478 y:146 for better looking?

[damnae's Insane?]

HP8 is a bit too high but I guess it is for making the high total score, how about HP7.3~7.5? this doesn't reduce the score.

03:01:573 (2) - how about moving to 03:01:573 (2) - to avoid overlapping of 03:00:762 (4) - and make perfect triangle?

[dqs01733's Insane]

OD6.5 looks a bit strange because this is the second hardest map in this mapset, though I think it is forgivable since this is guest difficulty

01:23:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I felt it a bit too repetitive, changing the placing of 01:24:438 (5,6,7,8) - would fit more to the song

[huh?]

(unimportant) first play http://puu.sh/naRta/c4d04e94f3.jpg http://puu.sh/naRwx/1d91b7acd9.osr I'm very noob at aiming lol but I enjoyed it very much

00:35:789 (1) - feels a bit out of place, how about like this? http://puu.sh/naO9Z/1899d75207.png
00:56:546 (1) - this slider is touching HP bar. very minor fix
01:11:789 (5) - move to x:127 y:41? (same to end of 01:10:492 (5) - 's cordinate) it would looks a bit better because 01:11:465 (4,5,1) - makes this equality of distance http://puu.sh/naP75/ad449261e1.png
01:17:951 (3) - move to x:76 y:313 to make the end equal distance among 01:17:789 (2) - and 01:17:303 (1) - 's end?
01:37:897 (7) - moving to x19 y:240 makes 01:37:411 (4,5,6,7) - perfect parallelogram
02:05:951 (3) - isn't the curve a bit too weak? and I also think moving this a bit left to make equal distance of 02:05:303 (1) - 's start and end would get the looks more beautiful http://puu.sh/naR7u/da582b5bd6.jpg
02:08:546 (4) - I would change the shape like this http://puu.sh/naOQx/db835b565d.png

good luck

Battle

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Battle 2016-02-17T11:35:56+00:00

probably yes

[Normal]
Check off widescreen aaa same for easy
00:48:762 (1,6) - know this is real nazi, but these aren't stacked lol
01:17:951 (2) - I was kinda wondering why this wasn't like those times where you do a 1/1 slider into another 1/1 slider but then I'm just assuming that it's for the beat on the white tick, but maybe try moving 2 to 01:17:789 - since it can follow the music a bit better with both of the fairly strong beats being technically pressed at the loss of the beat of 01:17:951 - not being pressed ><
02:20:222 (2) - Consider the above? ><
03:12:114 (2) - ^

[Smokeperson]
widescreen thing
Consider raising volume at the start, 22% is pretty hard to hear, plus the other diffs have this at like 44%
Which things you emphasize is kinda inconsistent, take for example the start of the map, 00:16:330 (1) - is arguably a strong note that leads to a denser beat in the song, whereas 00:15:032 (1) - has large spacing that normal, the beat pointed out has no increased spacing for it's emphasis despite it being arguably more important. Same thing can be said to something like 00:22:816 (1) - , where there's no increased spacing despite it being a start of the vocals, something completely different from what the song has been so far, and things such as 00:20:222 (1) - which repeat multiple times have more emphasis .3.
00:11:789 (3,4,5,6) - It makes sense, at the same time I dunno if advanced players actually know how to read something that's basically collapsing on itself, so like, it might be confusing .3.
00:46:168 (1) - You could make this 3/2 repeat slider to follow vocals, making it similar to 00:47:465 (2) - since it kinda goes along with vocals
00:53:951 (1) - Do 1.7x ds to go along with the structure you have on later kiais? All other kiais start with the first note being 1.7x ds away from previous note
01:04:816 (2,3,1) - I'm confused you can stack these but you don't lol
01:26:708 (1,2) - Is it like part of your aesthetic or sth?
01:48:438 (1,2,3,4) - Just gonna put that it isn't really done the same way for 3,4 as you did before, don't know how much you care for structure tho
02:37:087 (3,4,5,6,1) - Stilllllllll
03:18:924 (4,1) - Obligatory "you can blanket this better"
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6,1) - Even like, slightly bigger spacing would probably help, cuz it may be hard for newer players to read the notes that are more toward the end since, let's be honest, most people who are playing advanced probably still have skins that have 300 hit indicators, combine that with these collapsing notes and it's pretty obvious why this can be a problem, especially on a lower diff aimed for newer players

[Okorahu hard]
00:03:843 - The lack of anything on the red tick kinda feels awkward, there's no real pause happening in the music compared to something like 00:04:492 - where the sound is quieter, maybe just make 2 a slider so it's less awk
00:43:573 (1,2) - Obligatory blanket
00:53:303 (4,5,1) - This looks awkward the way it is right now because it's ds'd and because of the sv multiplier it's like, somewhat emphasized, but I think you should space 1 a little farther or just move 5 a little bit down or something so that there's more emphasis on 1, either that or move 5 toward the middle because rn it looks like it's trying to be in the middle but it failed .3.
02:28:978 (2,3) - Is this the only overlap large overlap in diff, most of the have been like lightly overlapping
03:10:168 (1,3) - o b l i g a t o r y

[dq]
that's some diff name you got there lol
00:15:195 (2) - Odd rhythm choice, all the things prior to this, rhythm is pretty dense but then the sudden lack of density in rhythm here just makes things awkward
00:20:222 (7,1) - Umm, the downbeat 7 should be the one with increased spacing and the nc, not the current 1
00:21:519 (5) - This should be where your double things starts, not 1, the spacing between 5 -> 1 makes no sense at this moment since 5 is the stronger note
00:23:789 (4,1) - If I saw this in an insane, I would immediately assume it's a 3/4 slider for 4, but it isn't yet your spacing makes it seem so, please make it more spaced
00:26:384 (3,1) - You literally do it only twice in this section lol
00:38:060 (6,1) - Maybe just stack? Or make the overlap a little less like

a

00:40:816 (7,1) - The lack of spacing here despite 1 being a pretty loud vocals emphasizes the music poorly
00:42:276 (7) - This is where the music starts to do the rhythm that you're doing the pattern at 00:42:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , so move accordingly, the current spacing of 1,2 makes absolutely no sense and is kinda just awkwardly there
I'll just say general things that seem to be reoccuring so you can just check it .3.
Make sure that spacing makes sense, if a downbeat has a stronger beat and is emphasized less than something say like a white tick -> red tick with a soft instrument playing, make is so that the downbeat is emphasized instead of something soft
Make sure that your overlaps look neat
Make sure that your patterns make musical sense, back to the downbeat thing, something like a strong vocal's spacing should not be overshadowed by a note before it
Make sure rhythm density is consistent

That's all from me so yeah, this is awkward because you're pming me rn lol

alsoalsoalso general check widescreen support for diffs not the collab to make sure its off lol

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-17T12:03:37+00:00

ecdonald wrote:
Hello, I tried to mod this map. looks very well made and I'm so noob of modding so I could only find slight issues but hope it contribute the mapset to be polished even if just a little

Easy and Normal looks fine for me owo

[collab hard]
00:11:465 (2,3,4,5,6) - I would make it pentagon 9/11, did
00:44:870 (1,2,1) - I think the inconsistent spacing should be avoid
01:13:087 (3) - how about making equilateral triangle among 01:12:600 (2) - and 01:12:114 (1) - 's end like this? http://puu.sh/naPqP/566979b223.jpg

[Insane?]

01:05:141 (3) - I think it's ok but a bit too low (hits the score meter 2.0x), how about moving the same cordinate of 01:04:005 (4) -? avoided
01:08:059 (5) - how about moving to x:343 y:155 to make like equal distance among 01:07:735 (3) - and 01:07:411 (2) -'s end? it would looks better. did this somehow differently but did
02:37:735 (1) - move to a bit westly lower like this? http://puu.sh/naPlu/b815cb9971.jpg did this differently
02:50:384 (5) - move to x:478 y:146 for better looking? did your general idea without breaking spacing

[huh?]

(unimportant) first play http://puu.sh/naRta/c4d04e94f3.jpg http://puu.sh/naRwx/1d91b7acd9.osr I'm very noob at aiming lol but I enjoyed it very much

00:35:789 (1) - feels a bit out of place, how about like this? http://puu.sh/naO9Z/1899d75207.png that's intentionally like this due to the movement you get from 7
00:56:546 (1) - this slider is touching HP bar. very minor fix donee
01:11:789 (5) - move to x:127 y:41? (same to end of 01:10:492 (5) - 's cordinate) it would looks a bit better because 01:11:465 (4,5,1) - makes this equality of distance http://puu.sh/naP75/ad449261e1.png why not
01:17:951 (3) - move to x:76 y:313 to make the end equal distance among 01:17:789 (2) - and 01:17:303 (1) - 's end? the jump in this pattern to that slider is intended
01:37:897 (7) - moving to x19 y:240 makes 01:37:411 (4,5,6,7) - perfect parallelogram your coordinates make no sense but i tried for a parallelogram XD
02:05:951 (3) - isn't the curve a bit too weak? and I also think moving this a bit left to make equal distance of 02:05:303 (1) - 's start and end would get the looks more beautiful http://puu.sh/naR7u/da582b5bd6.jpg i like the curves and did the spacing thing!
02:08:546 (4) - I would change the shape like this http://puu.sh/naOQx/db835b565d.png i prefer the current shape D:

good luck

thank you!!

will answer battle when im back from college

Garden

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Garden 2016-02-17T13:32:42+00:00

hmm, i found it's updated when i modded halfway, so forgive me for anything mentioned below conflicts with its current status

[general?]

need 'touhou 東方Project' tag i suppose, but i see generally ppl use 東方Project as source
are you sure with the space? http://puu.sh/nb85E/4b06952126.png
some widescreens uncheck, untick the useless ones
for the last part without instruments, mute the volume a bit, that sounds too loud for me

[easy?]

idk whether beginners will feel uncomfortable about those 1-sec-length spinners tho i see you use them as a refresh maybe, at least i always suck at them when i first join the game lol
00:58:492 (3) - 01:10:492 (2) - spacing
03:41:303 (2,3,1) - this looks a bit too unbalanced in gameplay, will look better with a regular triangle imo, can fix other similar patterns a bit as well

[normal?]

02:09:195 (1,2,3) - when u click slider1, the approaching circle of 3 already exists, and since 3 looks visually closer to the sliderend of 1, probably a misreading can happen here
03:21:843 (1,3) - imo this doesn't look good in gameplay, try place 3 a bit farther maybe

[smokeman's advanced?]

00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - i do like the idea, but idk whether ppl at this level would feel at a loss looking at those tangled approaching circles lol
02:37:087 (3,4,5,6,1) - 03:28:978 (3,4,5,6) - actually confusing spacing, but ppl need to practice reading to get better lol, so i suggest making these three parts all the same instead of letting this one 00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - stand out alone with a circular pattern, that would feel a bit weird cuz it appears only once throughout the diff

[collab hard?]

decrease the od a bit can be forgiving, and fits the spread better as well
i think that all name appearing actions perform on the long white tick will feel better
01:04:654 - like this transition just feels a bit weird to me
01:45:843 (1) - easy misread, stacked on 4 can be better like you do here 03:13:411 (3,4,5,1) -
03:41:627 (5,6) - this almost-overlap thing doesn't look neat imo, you can make their spacing visually consistent with 4-5

[damnae's insane?]

for slower part like 00:43:573 - to 00:52:654 - HP8 is way too op for a hr play cuz even with auto the hp bar would be reduced by half xd
03:02:222 (4,1,2,3,4) - a bit awkward for me to play, the music doesn't suddenly get stronger here so maybe you'd like to follow previous flow patterns

[dqs01733's insane?]

01:23:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - oh man i have problem aiming this with ar8.5 lol, would feel better if you can move 5-8 somewhere else or ctrl-< for flow
02:05:951 (1,2) - imo ppl are likely to misread this spacing

[huh?]

00:21:519 (2) - nc here at the downbeat?
00:50:059 (4) - maybe nc here specifically to emphasize that two sounds, would be more forgiving for hr play as well

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-17T17:21:54+00:00

@gds WHATEVER I'LL UNCHECK WIDESCREEN UPON YOUR UPDATES

Battle wrote:
probably yes

[Normal]
Check off widescreen aaa same for easy
00:48:762 (1,6) - know this is real nazi, but these aren't stacked lol holy shit i thought they were
01:17:951 (2) - I was kinda wondering why this wasn't like those times where you do a 1/1 slider into another 1/1 slider but then I'm just assuming that it's for the beat on the white tick, but maybe try moving 2 to 01:17:789 - since it can follow the music a bit better with both of the fairly strong beats being technically pressed at the loss of the beat of 01:17:951 - not being pressed ><
I do this quite often, the 1/2 slider is there like that because of the melody being mainly oriented on the white tick and mapping both layers at the same time gives me dumb af rhythms so I compromised for these and the ones below
02:20:222 (2) - Consider the above? ><
03:12:114 (2) - ^

[Okorahu hard KILL ME]
00:03:843 - The lack of anything on the red tick kinda feels awkward, there's no real pause happening in the music compared to something like 00:04:492 - where the sound is quieter, maybe just make 2 a slider so it's less awk I feel the breakup fits, i do the same thing at 00:09:519 (4) - and enhu does it at 03:20:870 (2) - , if someone else thinks this is changeworthy i may change my opinion on these, for now i think they fit pretty well
00:43:573 (1,2) - Obligatory blanket
00:53:303 (4,5,1) - This looks awkward the way it is right now because it's ds'd and because of the sv multiplier it's like, somewhat emphasized, but I think you should space 1 a little farther or just move 5 a little bit down or something so that there's more emphasis on 1, either that or move 5 toward the middle because rn it looks like it's trying to be in the middle but it failed .3.
02:28:978 (2,3) - Is this the only overlap large overlap in diff, most of the have been like lightly overlapping That is because the overall DS in that section is much lower, i intentionally designed it like this because not overlapping would mean that i have to put 3 much more to the left while i wanted to catch it with a downward motion
03:10:168 (1,3) - o b l i g a t o r y

alsoalsoalso general check widescreen support for diffs not the collab to make sure its off lol

Garden wrote:
hmm, i found it's updated when i modded halfway, so forgive me for anything mentioned below conflicts with its current status

[general?]
need 'touhou 東方Project' tag i suppose, but i see generally ppl use 東方Project as source Lmao i forgot that will add when all gds answered
are you sure with the space? http://puu.sh/nb85E/4b06952126.png I referred to http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/html/game.html ZUN's official website for this
some widescreens uncheck, untick the useless ones whatever will just uncheck the useless ones once they give me the update this is too tedious to just reject every fucking time lol
for the last part without instruments, mute the volume a bit, that sounds too loud for me will nerf the normal hits in the lower diffs to something more quiet altogether on my diffs at the end of this
[easy?]
idk whether beginners will feel uncomfortable about those 1-sec-length spinners tho i see you use them as a refresh maybe, at least i always suck at them when i first join the game lol I'm not sure either, they should be doable enough with the 1/1 break before to notice them and the 4/1 after, if this causes serious concerns among people I will just map them out like in the 2nd kiai
00:58:492 (3) - 01:10:492 (2) - spacing yeah done
03:41:303 (2,3,1) - this looks a bit too unbalanced in gameplay, will look better with a regular triangle imo, can fix other similar patterns a bit as well uh i use this a lot because i think it's rather easy to hit but i deleted the circle and rearranged the stuff after it because i think that fits better for the ending
[normal?]
02:09:195 (1,2,3) - when u click slider1, the approaching circle of 3 already exists, and since 3 looks visually closer to the sliderend of 1, probably a misreading can happen here oh, indeed, moved everything further up to counter that
03:21:843 (1,3) - imo this doesn't look good in gameplay, try place 3 a bit farther maybe i agree, fixed
[smokeman's advanced?]
00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - i do like the idea, but idk whether ppl at this level would feel at a loss looking at those tangled approaching circles lol
02:37:087 (3,4,5,6,1) - 03:28:978 (3,4,5,6) - actually confusing spacing, but ppl need to practice reading to get better lol, so i suggest making these three parts all the same instead of letting this one 00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - stand out alone with a circular pattern, that would feel a bit weird cuz it appears only once throughout the diff
[collab hard?]
decrease the od a bit can be forgiving, and fits the spread better as well oh it was 7.... nerfed it to 6.5 because smokeman has 5.5
i think that all name appearing actions perform on the long white tick will feel better oh but that would be inaccurate, the current namechanges perform around the parts which each of us really mapped xD
01:04:654 - like this transition just feels a bit weird to me i placed 01:04:330 (1) - so the transition starts towards the sliderend of it loool
01:45:843 (1) - easy misread, stacked on 4 can be better like you do here 03:13:411 (3,4,5,1) -
03:41:627 (5,6) - this almost-overlap thing doesn't look neat imo, you can make their spacing visually consistent with 4-5 did
[huh?]
00:21:519 (2) - nc here at the downbeat? i'm ncing as my whistlepattern kicks in and that's on red ticks
00:50:059 (4) - maybe nc here specifically to emphasize that two sounds, would be more forgiving for hr play as well i tested both variants and neither gives you more hp so I'm sticking to 2 measure combos!

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2016-02-17T17:52:02+00:00

Where's the ~ U L T R A ~ ?

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-17T18:08:08+00:00

You mean the diff with overdone spacing? doesn't exist and probably wont xd

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2016-02-17T18:15:44+00:00

I was just looking for my 8 star difficulty

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-02-17T18:27:53+00:00

ecdonald

[dqs01733's Insane]

OD6.5 looks a bit strange because this is the second hardest map in this mapset, though I think it is forgivable since this is guest difficulty I will consider it

01:23:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I felt it a bit too repetitive, changing the placing of 01:24:438 (5,6,7,8) - would fit more to the song the repetetiveness is the point of the pattern, like the rhythm of the thing it's following

Battle

[dq]
that's some diff name you got there lol
00:15:195 (2) - Odd rhythm choice, all the things prior to this, rhythm is pretty dense but then the sudden lack of density in rhythm here just makes things awkward okay i added some more stuff
00:20:222 (7,1) - Umm, the downbeat 7 should be the one with increased spacing and the nc, not the current 1 yep my bad
00:21:519 (5) - This should be where your double things starts, not 1, the spacing between 5 -> 1 makes no sense at this moment since 5 is the stronger note ee im starting pattern at 00:21:681 - because i feel like 00:21:357 (5) - belongs in a 3 between 00:20:870 (3,4,5) - (sliderend of the slider), so i broke it up like that
00:23:789 (4,1) - If I saw this in an insane, I would immediately assume it's a 3/4 slider for 4, but it isn't yet your spacing makes it seem so, please make it more spaced Sure i spaced it out a bit more so the circles doesnt overlap
00:26:384 (3,1) - You literally do it only twice in this section lol
00:38:060 (6,1) - Maybe just stack? Or make the overlap a little less like yeah okay did like the picture

00:40:816 (7,1) - The lack of spacing here despite 1 being a pretty loud vocals emphasizes the music poorly eh no im putting more focus on emphasizing the instruments rather than downbeats/vocals.
00:42:276 (7) - This is where the music starts to do the rhythm that you're doing the pattern at 00:42:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , so move accordingly, the current spacing of 1,2 makes absolutely no sense and is kinda just awkwardly there ??????? i dont understand how it starts at 00:42:276 - but i can see that you dont like spacing between 00:42:438 (1,2) - , but i did that because i wanted to break it up into a 2-4 pattern, i could also make a 3-3 pattern but the current setup works well imo
I'll just say general things that seem to be reoccuring so you can just check it .3.
Make sure that spacing makes sense, if a downbeat has a stronger beat and is emphasized less than something say like a white tick -> red tick with a soft instrument playing, make is so that the downbeat is emphasized instead of something soft
Make sure that your overlaps look neat
Make sure that your patterns make musical sense, back to the downbeat thing, something like a strong vocal's spacing should not be overshadowed by a note before it
Make sure rhythm density is consistent

Garden

[dqs01733's insane?]

01:23:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - oh man i have problem aiming this with ar8.5 lol, would feel better if you can move 5-8 somewhere else or ctrl-< for flow :(((( but I want to keep this repetetive pattern because the thing in the music is very repetitive
02:05:951 (1,2) - imo ppl are likely to misread this spacingo oops i moved it somewhere else so theres a bigger spacing now

thanks for modding ~

Enhu

117 posts

Joined June 2013

Enhu 2016-02-17T22:22:45+00:00

ecdonald wrote:
[collab hard]
00:44:870 (1,2,1) - I think the inconsistent spacing should be avoid oops, good catch
01:13:087 (3) - how about making equilateral triangle among 01:12:600 (2) - and 01:12:114 (1) - 's end like this? http://puu.sh/naPqP/566979b223.jpg did

Battle wrote:
[Okorahu hard]
00:43:573 (1,2) - Obligatory blanket i tried
00:53:303 (4,5,1) - This looks awkward the way it is right now because it's ds'd and because of the sv multiplier it's like, somewhat emphasized, but I think you should space 1 a little farther or just move 5 a little bit down or something so that there's more emphasis on 1, either that or move 5 toward the middle because rn it looks like it's trying to be in the middle but it failed .3. after talking with oko about this we decided to go with even spacing between 5 and 1, we did that as well in 01:55:573 (4,5,1) - .3.
03:10:168 (1,3) - o b l i g a t o r y i tried x2

Garden wrote:
[collab hard?]
01:45:843 (1) - easy misread, stacked on 4 can be better like you do here 03:13:411 (3,4,5,1) - did

thanks guys!!

re did my first part from 00:23:303 - to 00:43:411 -

Charles445

Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon

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Charles445 2016-02-17T23:17:49+00:00

[General]
Add "touhou" to the tags.
Spinners are a thing! That can be used! In beatmaps!
You should probably have some! In the difficulties!

[easy?]
Wow these spinners are way too fast
playing it safe everywhere else though

[normal?]
zzz
playing it super safe so nothing to say
zzzzzzz
1/2 sliders into circles might mess people up but hey gotta learn it sometime, right

[smokieman's advanced]
Might want to work on consistency in new combos / have oko go through and re-NC stuff. It's a little bit weird as it is.
01:22:492 (1,2,3,4,5) - Weird rhythm to have when the music is doing this...
02:24:762 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same thing
03:16:654 (1,2,3,4,5) - same thing
Other than inconsistent new combos, that's all that bothered me.

[collab hard storyboard]
For collab transitions you want the name to be fully switched by the big white tick.
Even if it's a little innacurate info-wise, it'll end up being better presentation
00:22:492 - Start the transition here instead
01:04:005 - Start the transition here instead
01:40:330 - Start the transition here instead

[collab hard?]
played this on DT lol
00:41:951 (3,1) - This screwed me up SUPER hard. I wanted to press the big white tick so bad
01:44:222 (4,1) - I saw it coming this time but the damage was done
Other than that this diff is really playing it safe, so there's nothing to say.

[insane?]
wow this slider velocity
The bezier gimmick is interesting
00:06:600 (2,3,4) - A little weird, changing speed in the same direction is pretty weird feeling. This isn't quite the same direction, but it evokes a similar feeling.
Yeah played through this and didn't really uh, notice anything other than that, seems like it's in your comfort zone.

[damnae's insane?]
HP 8 is rough, try 7
00:02:060 (1) - Since there's no audio before this circle, it's easy to get a 100. It's usually a good idea to start with a slider for stuff like this.
00:41:951 (4,1,2,3,4) - I think you can come up with something more interesting than these 1/2 sliders.
01:23:141 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - Again this 1/2 slider thing seems really weak and out of place for what's happening in the music.
02:25:411 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - Same thing, it feels weak.
WELP

[dqs01733's insane?]
00:02:060 - Since there's no audio before this circle, it's easy to get a 100. It's usually a good idea to start with a slider for stuff like this.
00:16:654 (3,4) - These feel too close together. Maybe try moving the 4 back some more -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554461 You'd want to move the next combo's first slider with it.
00:18:276 (4,5) - This is a really weird angle / weird distance. Maybe do it like 00:19:573 (5,6) - ? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554484
00:20:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - The drop from 3 to 4 feels really week compared to everything else. Try switching 4 and 5, see if that plays better -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554498
00:42:438 (1,2) - Stacking these circles manually makes them hard to read, they look like streams!
00:54:843 (4) - I don't think this circle fits the music.
01:01:573 (5,1) - These feel too close together. I think moving 01:01:573 (5) - to where 01:00:114 (4) - was would work -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554516
01:02:627 (4) - I don't think this circle fits the music. Start the stream at 01:02:222 - instead?
01:10:411 (4) - Again, this doesn't sound right. Sounds like it'd fit more at 01:10:249 -
01:44:708 (1,2) - Fully stack these, they look like streams as manual stacks.
01:55:411 (2,3,4) - I think instead of same ddistance, maybe have 3 lower down and to the right so 2 to 3 is small but 3 to 4 is bigger. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554559
01:57:114 (4) - Doesn't quite fit. It'd fit more at 01:56:951 - .
01:58:654 (5,1) - These are pretty close together, I'd move 1 like before. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554567
01:59:708 (4) - Again doesn't seem to fit. Could work at 01:59:546 - .
02:13:087 (1) - I'd move this a little bit down... for bigger spacing from the previous circle.
02:55:492 (4) - Doesn't quite work.
02:59:141 (3,4) - These are a little too close, increase the distance from the two while keeping the blanket -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554594
03:04:573 (4) - Doesn't quite fit, 03:04:411 - would work.
03:44:870 (6,7) - This looks like it's going to be an antijump, not a stream because of the rhythm. The instrument that 03:45:114 (7) - is mapped to isn't mapped in the previous parts (03:41:222 - , 03:42:519 - , 03:43:816 - ), so it's even more unexpected.

[huh?]
00:21:032 (4,5,1) - Weird way to start the jump section, probably expected to start at 00:21:519 - , with the first 3 notes 00:21:032 (4,5,1) - being some kinda triangle on their own.
00:21:357 (1,2) - Switch new combos.
00:24:114 (1,2,3,4) - Strangely plain, you could make 1 to 2 bigger for the strong beat, or make 4 look the same as 3 for the quiet repeating sound in the music... stuff can be done here.
00:29:303 (1,2,3,4) - This is a bit better because of 2 to 3 but it still feels oddly calm and plain.
00:46:654 (2) - Why is this here? It should be at 00:47:951 - .
00:53:951 - to 00:53:951 - starts each measure with either a 1/2 slider or a 1/1 slider, but it seems to switch between them randomly. I think it'd be better / more intuitive if it was fitting something in the music each time, preferably the vocalist since that is what varies the most in that segment.
01:15:681 (3,1,2) - This sort of movement can feel weird, since the player moves to the right from 3 to 1, stops, then moves to the right again on 2. Stopping and starting in the same direction is very risky.
01:23:303 (4,5,1,2) - Jump section is weird like before, same with the new combo issue.
01:44:222 (5) - It is very strange to switch to the vocalist suddenly here. Sliders for the most part are fitting the synth in the music during this.
01:55:735 (8,9,10,11,12,1) - This angle and stream plays like crap, too far away, too spaced out. Do it like you did at 00:53:627 (9,10,11,12,1) -
02:25:573 (4,5,1,2) - Again with the jump section starting and the new combos, very out of place here.
02:44:222 (1,2,3) - Weird feeling start and stop motion. Again this is like 01:15:681 -
03:17:465 (4,5,1,2) - Blah blah new combos blah blah jump section
03:38:221 (4,5,1,2) - same
03:45:032 (8,9) - Weird place to have these circles, this segment is pretty good about overlapping up until these two (the 3 circle is in the way)

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

J1NX1337 2016-02-18T00:28:50+00:00

>mfw I get ninja'd by Charles while writing my mod dadfjshdjgkglo

Note: Some stuff might be irrelevant now after enhu's remake and charles' mod so like, ignore them in that case lol

Normal Mod

[easy?]

Not much to say here except for some blankets and minor details. Great Easy, I really like the way it follows the music!

1) 01:05:627 (3) - Position this just a bit lower so that the approach circle captures the same amount of (2)'s start and end points.

2) 01:06:276 (4,1) - Blanket could be better, even if it's unintended.

3) 01:09:519 (1,2) - Signicant spacing difference between these.

4) 01:12:114 (1,2,3) - Form a perfect vertical line with these? (1)'s end point is a bit off. Alternatively just align (3)'s start point with (1)'s end point for a small nook with the circle.

5) 02:06:600 (1) - imo this would look better if you positioned it just a bit more to the left for a better line with 02:06:276 (4,1) - .

6) 02:20:870 (2,3) - I know you don't care too much, but the blanket here could be a bit better. xD (compare approach circle to (2)'s start and end points)

7) 03:03:032 (3,1) - Blanket could be bit better here too.

8) 03:17:627 (2,1) - Kinda caught my attention in the editor but it's completely invisible while playing so it doesn't really matter. Feel free not to do anything about it.

9) 03:24:438 (1) - Same as 1) lol

10) 03:28:330 (3,4) - Blanket could be a bit better.

11) 03:30:924 (3) - I think this would look nicer if the curve blanketed the start point of 03:32:222 (1) - while the reverse slider's end is in the cove of (1)

[normal?]

Nice Normal even though it uses noticeable copy and paste patterns at a few points, but whatever. Mostly pointing out similar stuff to Easy.

1) 00:16:978 (4,1) - Blanket could be better™

2) 00:36:762 (2,3) - 1,04x spacing, doesn't matter much but thought I'd mention anyways

3) 00:42:276 (3,4) - Blanket could also be a bit better

4) 01:32:222 (5,1) - Same tbh

5) 01:52:330 (4,5,6) - Maybe move these to the top right a bit so that 01:51:032 (1,2,4) - form a better triangle?

6) 02:21:519 (5) - Blanket could be just a liiitle bit better if you raised the end of (5) a bit

7) 03:12:438 (3,4,5,6,7) - Okay I can see why you C&P'd for the others at 02:04:978 (3,4,5,6,7) - and 01:02:708 (3,4,5,6,7) - but here it isn't emphasizing the same part of the song, should be at 02:56:870 - instead. At its current position, it feels like a consistency error and you can notice it while playing. So I'd either put this pattern where it belongs or just remake it here.

8) 03:36:114 (3,4) - Okay I think you could at least improve this one. Green or blue answer pls xD

[smokeman's advanced?]

An alright Advanced, I liked the use of half beat sliders here. However, a part in the beginning was quite unintuitive. Mainly pointing out blankets and stuff again otherwise.

1) 00:25:411 (3,4) - These and 00:27:519 (2) - were really unintuitive to play for me. The AR7 makes it especially more challenging to read. Consider doing something like extending 00:25:411 (3,1,2) - to the beats.

2) 00:31:087 (4,5) - Stack these with the end of 00:29:627 (1) - ?

3) 00:36:438 (3,4) - 1,40x spacing?

4) 00:47:465 (3,4) - Blanket could be just a bit better if you lower the end point of (3) slightly.

5) 01:04:816 (2,3,1) - Is this stacking intentional? Looks kinda messy lol. Also stack 01:06:924 (1) - with them in the process.

6) 01:27:681 (1,1) - Maybe stack these. Doing so would also make a better triangle with 01:28:330 (3,4,1) - but this one's pretty subjective.

7) 01:29:789 (3,1) - Blanket could be bit better. (check the end point on (3))

8) 01:40:654 (1,3) - This blanket could also be a bit better.

9) 01:45:843 (1,3) - Use the same curve for these to better blanket 01:48:114 (4) -

10) 02:37:735 (1) - I'd add 1,4x spacing or something to this to better emphasize the end and break here. Otherwise it feels like it just belongs to the same as 02:37:087 (3,4,5,6) - even though there is a clear sound change here. It felt unnatural to me so that's why I'm pointing it out.

11) 02:43:897 (3,3) - Stack?

[collab hard?]

okoratu? enhu? gee I dunno who mapped this? do I get a free mod if I guess right? lol
Nice Collab! Was really fun to play. Mainly pointing out the same kind of crap as before

Oko's Parts

1) 00:03:357 (1,2) - "Could improve that blanket a bit." - Most memorable quotes of Jinx 2016

2) 00:18:924 (1,2) - ^

3) 01:01:087 (4,1) - Holy shit, is that an actual perfect blanket? xD Anyway, I'd move the vector of 01:01:735 (1) - a bit to the right so it goes neatly right between the start and end points of 01:01:087 (4) -

4) 01:25:087 (1,3) - These would also look better if blanketed properly

5) 01:29:303 (2,3) - Same tbh

6) 02:02:384 (4,4) - Stack?

7) 03:45:032 (7) - I'd lower the hitsound volume here at least. I thought it was a bit hard to hear what the quarter beat slider was emphasizing.

Enhu's Parts

1) 00:28:654 (3,2) - Maybe stack?

2) 00:36:600 (2,3) - Potential for blanket?

3) 00:38:384 (1) - Curve this a bit more so it doesn't overlap with 00:37:897 (3) - ? Would also flow a bit better back to 00:39:195 (2) -

4) 00:42:438 (1,2,3,4,1) - I'm not really fond of this pattern at all, it didn't feel satisfying to play imo. Spacing-wise, I also think 00:43:573 (1) - is too close. It's fine here 00:38:384 (1) - because of the half beat separation. The combination of these two things makes it awkward.

5) 00:43:573 (1,2) - Blanket could also be much better. Probably irrelevant if you fix the previous part.

6) 00:49:411 (3,3) - Stack?

7) 01:08:222 (1,2) - Would blanket these properly

8) 01:41:951 (1,4) - Stack?

9) 02:10:492 (1,1) - Stack these properly. They're a bit off

10) 03:00:438 (4,1) - Could better blanket these

11) 03:29:141 (4,5) - Not sure about the spacing difference here. I'd just even out the spacing

[insane?]

Never before has AR8.7 felt so fast before. Weird. Maybe because of the SV somehow? Not a problem in any case.
Cool Insane, plays without problems. Pretty hip blazer bézier curves and streams too.

1) 00:03:032 (5) - Uhh, are these curve points intentional? lol

2) 00:21:843 (2,1) - Maybe make these have the same shape by making them parallel? That curve is unnoticeable anyway lol

3) 00:33:195 (1) - I think this wave could look a bit better unless it was your intention to not make it look perfect.

4) 00:35:303 (1,2,3) - Same spacing? It's a bit off

5) 00:37:897 (1,2,3) - Same?

6) 00:57:519 (4,1) - Blanket could be a bit better.

7) 01:06:600 (6,1) - Parallel curves maybe?

8) 01:57:843 (2,4) - Better blanket?

9) 03:02:059 (4,1) - ^

10) 03:06:276 (1) - Move it just a bit to the right for a better blanket

11) 03:40:005 (1) - Maybe make this go neatly right between 03:39:357 (3,4) - (point it a bit more to the left)

[damnae's insane?]

Interesting Insane, I'm really digging the stacked streams actually. Mainly pointing out stacks.

1) 00:31:573 (4,2) - Stack these maybe? Dunno if intentional

2) 00:53:789 (7,4) - Stack these perhaps

3) 00:57:519 (4,3) - Stack's a bit off. Not sure if intentional either

4) 01:15:195 (2,5) - These could flow better if one of them was flipped. Preferably (2). You seem to sport oval flow in other points around the map so I don't see why not do the same here.

5) 01:25:735 (2,1) - I think you could make these just a bit more parallel. Would seem like the gap near the end is larger than the gap near the beginning.

6) 01:34:168 (1) - Snap this slider on the stack. It's an itsy bitsy tiny bit off.

7) 01:42:600 (4) - Same ^

8) 02:04:978 (4) - Maybe stack this on the end point of 02:03:681 (4) - and 02:05:303 (1) - on the end point of 02:04:005 (1) -

9) 02:50:384 (4) - I'd curve this a bit more and place the end point a bit lower for a better parallel pattern between these 02:50:384 (4,1) -

10) 03:22:816 (4,3) - Stack these?

11) 03:39:032 (3,4,5,6) - I'd make a similar shape with these as these 03:38:384 (4,5,1,2) - . The 03:39:032 (3) - is off

[dqs01733's insane? (god that's awful to write lol)]

Alright Insane, there's some patterns I didn't really like but otherwise kk. Also I'm not really fond of you not stacking most things but that's just how I roll anyway

1) 00:32:546 (2,3) - Blanket could be just a bit better.

2) 00:38:060 (6,1) - I'd stack tbh

3) 00:42:438 (1,2) - I think it's better if you just stack these. The automatic stack breaker thing in osu already makes 00:42:114 (5,6,7) - so that they aren't stacked directly on top of each other while playing which makes 00:42:438 (1,2) - somewhat confusing imo

4) 00:52:816 (1,2) - Considering the sounds here in the song, I think it might emphasize it better if you replace these sliders with some circle jumps instead. Getting to click 4 times instead of only twice feels more satisfying here.

5) 00:56:546 (1) - Stack this with the end of 00:55:735 (2) - ?

6) 00:58:816 (2) - This is very misleading because it more or less shares the same distance spacing as 00:57:843 (1,2,3,4,1) - and I keep getting juked by it. You should move it quite a bit further away. I'd also perfect this as horizontal diamond shape 00:57:843 (1,2,3,4) - in the process and apply the same spacing for all of them, and also stack 00:57:843 (1,1) -

7) 01:03:032 (1,2,3,4) - I'd make these look more like a rectangle (reposition (4) a bit)

8) 01:13:411 (1,2,5,6) - Yeah these seem to be intentional but I'd honestly just stack them. They look better and cleaner when stacked imo.

9) 01:23:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't like this pattern. I think it lasts for way too long which also caused me to miss since I expected it to break out of it a lot sooner. I'd do something else with 01:24:438 (5,6,7,8) - and I'm sure you could come up with some better patterns with them as well. Maybe position them horizontally so that they form a sort of + sign with 01:23:789 (1,2,3,4) -

10) 01:39:357 (1,6,7,1) - I'd just stack these too. I think it would look cleaner. tbh I don't really see the point of not stacking? Maybe if these were repeated back and forth jumps but there's really only one back and forth jump here.

11) 01:41:627 (4) - Stack with 01:40:654 (1) - ?

12) 01:44:708 (1,2) - Again I don't really see the point of not stacking these. What you're doing here is sort of what the game does for you in any case.

13) 01:55:411 (2,2) - Stack maybe?

14) 01:59:789 (5,3) - ^?

15) 02:05:465 (2) - I'd move this a bit to have the same spacing for 02:05:303 (1,2,3) -

16) 02:59:141 (3,4) - Blanket could be a bit better (slider end too close)

17) 03:22:815 (4,2) - Stack?

18) One more thing: 00:52:897 - unsnapped inherited timing point here

[huh?]

Really nice diff. Flows and plays well, quite enjoyable.

1) 00:04:654 (1,2) - Blanket could be a bit better.

2) 00:37:573 (2,3,4) - stack with 00:36:438 (3) - ?

3) 01:06:600 (6) - Reposition this a bit to the top right for a better blanket with (4)?

4) 01:09:195 (4) - Curve a bit less for better slider leniency.

5) 01:23:789 (2) - NC here instead of 01:23:627 (1) - ?

6) 01:23:951 (3,9) - Stack?

7) 02:18:762 (3) - Place this more to the left for a little blanket or whatever

Cool mapset and nice song, hope it gets ranked soon~

Last edited by J1NX1337 2016-02-18T00:33:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-02-18T00:32:51+00:00

charles445

[dqs01733's insane?]
00:02:060 - Since there's no audio before this circle, it's easy to get a 100. It's usually a good idea to start with a slider for stuff like this. ee first object might aswell just retry, dont want to break my squares

00:16:654 (3,4) - These feel too close together. Maybe try moving the 4 back some more -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554461 You'd want to move the next combo's first slider with it. okay yes i i changed this and the other copy pastas
00:18:276 (4,5) - This is a really weird angle / weird distance. Maybe do it like 00:19:573 (5,6) - ? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554484 yeah kinda did like ur pic
00:20:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - The drop from 3 to 4 feels really week compared to everything else. Try switching 4 and 5, see if that plays better -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554498 dont really like this counterflow but ill try and see how i like it
00:42:438 (1,2) - Stacking these circles manually makes them hard to read, they look like streams! okay

((
00:54:843 (4) - I don't think this circle fits the music.
01:01:573 (5,1) - These feel too close together. I think moving 01:01:573 (5) - to where 01:00:114 (4) - was would work -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554516
01:02:627 (4) - I don't think this circle fits the music. Start the stream at 01:02:222 - instead?
01:10:411 (4) - Again, this doesn't sound right. Sounds like it'd fit more at 01:10:249 -
01:44:708 (1,2) - Fully stack these, they look like streams as manual stacks. okay mister
01:55:411 (2,3,4) - I think instead of same ddistance, maybe have 3 lower down and to the right so 2 to 3 is small but 3 to 4 is bigger. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554559 yes very good
01:57:114 (4) - Doesn't quite fit. It'd fit more at 01:56:951 - .
01:58:654 (5,1) - These are pretty close together, I'd move 1 like before. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554567
01:59:708 (4) - Again doesn't seem to fit. Could work at 01:59:546 - .
02:13:087 (1) - I'd move this a little bit down... for bigger spacing from the previous circle. kkk
02:55:492 (4) - Doesn't quite work.
02:59:141 (3,4) - These are a little too close, increase the distance from the two while keeping the blanket -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4554594 sure
03:04:573 (4) - Doesn't quite fit, 03:04:411 - would work.
03:44:870 (6,7) - This looks like it's going to be an antijump, not a stream because of the rhythm. The instrument that 03:45:114 (7) - is mapped to isn't mapped in the previous parts (03:41:222 - , 03:42:519 - , 03:43:816 - ), so it's even more unexpected. okay re-did the rhythm a little, should be impossible to misread

And I changed all of the triplet things, originally wanted it like that to follow the bass with a slider on 00:54:438 - , and emphasize the next clap with a triplet, and some flow changes like 01:10:492 (5,6,1) - , just to vary the rhythm with the other triplets i did. welp atleast its consistent now?? but the last part of the kiais are unchanged since there arent any vocals yeah

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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2016-02-18T00:34:44+00:00

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...shitmodding delivery (M4M answer).

- General :

Remove all these stupid useless greenlineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees on your diffs.
03:45:114 - Put the volume lower, it's clearly too loud when the beat is almost audible.
You forget a clap at 03:07:249 - on every diff.
00:33:195 - and equivalent parts after, you just make me bleed my ears with these full basic whistle sliders ;w; Why not keep them like all other, silenced ? Because if it's for emphasis the bells, it's not worth at all.

- easy? :

00:05:627 (2) - Remove this circle. Because you let 00:03:032 - empty, if you do same here, it does a consistency with your rhythm. Would do it for 00:10:816 (2) - too.
01:19:573 (3) - This one is not necessary imo because you follow vocal just before.
01:47:141 (2,3,1) - Omg dude do a symetric pattern plzzzzz.

- normal? :

00:42:276 (3,4) - Well you already know what I'll say so...will be the only one. BLANKET (saw an other one 01:32:222 (5,1) - , check other).
Clean

- smokeman's advanced? :

00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - This is EXTREMLY hard to read for this diff. You can't really know if it's a 1/1 or 1/2 stack at this lvl. So do smth to make them more readable pls.
On your kiais, I don't really understand how works your rhythm construction. Because I see you did something consistent all along, but it makes no sense for me. For example 00:56:222 (4) - I understand you put a 1/2 slider for the drum, but 00:57:681 - why a break here when you mapped vocal for 00:54:924 (4) - ? So map them all except 00:58:978 - because there is no vocal nor beat, or don't map them.
01:27:032 (2) - I don't think stack a so strong beat is a good idea, and could be missread too. Same for 01:32:222 (2) - and similar.
01:47:141 (3,4) - You blanket the 1st one correctly so why not this one too ?
02:16:654 (7,1) - You always used stacks for 1/2 gap, so doing right now a 1/1 stack could be missread by an advanced player. Same for 01:14:384 (4,1) - and similar.
02:37:087 (3,4,5,6,1) - Would use a little more big spacing, but this is a lot better to read than other one.
02:43:897 (3,3) - Cmon you can stack them.
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same as other.
03:45:114 - Maybe finish here like all other diff ? It's really stange than your the only one who did that. You can do it like this http://puu.sh/nbOdT/b2c75dad5f.jpg .

- collab hard? :

00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - Well I kinda feel this pattern is not right. Since the dream hit have same intensities here, spacing should be constant for 00:11:789 (3,4,5,6) - and only a jump for 00:12:438 (1) - to emphasis the start of a new section. Would make more sense imo.
00:31:249 (3,4) - The breakflow is pain here. You create a counter movement when you naturally want to go for 00:31:897 (1) - .
00:43:573 (1) - I understand your stack but...having a lower spacing kill the dynamic of this section's end for me. Even a stack with 00:43:249 (4) - would have more sense.
00:48:114 (2,3) - Stack them better ? Same for 00:49:411 (3,3) - .
02:17:951 (3,1) - Move them to 95:26 for two reason : blanket and flow.
Ofc I passed a lot of 03:36:924 (3,2) - bad stack so I let you take care of them~

- insane? :

00:40:492 (1,2,3) - I don't get the reason of a so high spacing when 00:42:438 (1,2,3) - have a lower one and are stronger.
00:57:519 (4,1) - Learn to blanket dude :c

Sry too lazy to shitmod other diffs (and I'm bad you know).
Mukyu~

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Okoratu 2016-02-18T00:48:16+00:00

Charles445 wrote:
[General]
Add "touhou" to the tags.
Spinners are a thing! That can be used! In beatmaps!
You should probably have some! In the difficulties! spinners are my least favourite thing ):

[easy?]
Wow these spinners are way too fast mapped out ok bye the only spinners i had in this set
playing it safe everywhere else though

[normal?]
zzz
playing it super safe so nothing to say
zzzzzzz
1/2 sliders into circles might mess people up but hey gotta learn it sometime, right that's exactly my thought process behind them, i tried to spam them in predictable patterns so that people can learn how to play them by the end of this diff

[collab hard storyboard]
For collab transitions you want the name to be fully switched by the big white tick. z ok fixed
Even if it's a little innacurate info-wise, it'll end up being better presentation
00:22:492 - Start the transition here instead
01:04:005 - Start the transition here instead
01:40:330 - Start the transition here instead

[insane?]
wow this slider velocity well, without that the diff wouldn't be interesting, right?
The bezier gimmick is interesting
00:06:600 (2,3,4) - A little weird, changing speed in the same direction is pretty weird feeling. This isn't quite the same direction, but it evokes a similar feeling. oh, made distance even.
Yeah played through this and didn't really uh, notice anything other than that, seems like it's in your comfort zone. not really this is actually an experiment, i took how Beren's 2011 maps work and combined that with my own stuff

[huh?]
00:21:032 (4,5,1) - Weird way to start the jump section, probably expected to start at 00:21:519 - , with the first 3 notes 00:21:032 (4,5,1) - being some kinda triangle on their own. the jump section starts whenever the weird melodic instrument goes nuts and it actually does at 00:21:032 - so i put the combo there and made 1->2 bigger for the clap that 2 has
00:21:357 (1,2) - Switch new combos. switched differently
00:24:114 (1,2,3,4) - Strangely plain, you could make 1 to 2 bigger for the strong beat, or make 4 look the same as 3 for the quiet repeating sound in the music... stuff can be done here. did stuff involving bigger spacings
00:29:303 (1,2,3,4) - This is a bit better because of 2 to 3 but it still feels oddly calm and plain. buffed distance a bit since idk how to buff feelings
00:46:654 (2) - Why is this here? It should be at 00:47:951 - . yes yes yes idk idk
00:53:951 - to 00:53:951 - starts each measure with either a 1/2 slider or a 1/1 slider, but it seems to switch between them randomly. I think it'd be better / more intuitive if it was fitting something in the music each time, preferably the vocalist since that is what varies the most in that segment. oh i made it switch back and forth between 1/2 and 1/1 sliders now, that is a great idea
01:15:681 (3,1,2) - This sort of movement can feel weird, since the player moves to the right from 3 to 1, stops, then moves to the right again on 2. Stopping and starting in the same direction is very risky. they now move downwards and upwards yay
01:23:303 (4,5,1,2) - Jump section is weird like before, same with the new combo issue. took care of it the same way as before
01:44:222 (5) - It is very strange to switch to the vocalist suddenly here. Sliders for the most part are fitting the synth in the music during this. i need to have a slider end there because the melody the circle jump pattern is mapped to starts on that red tick like the melody before each kiai idk how else to do this without having to click the downbeat because i wanted 6 click jumps in the next combo... any ideas ?
01:55:735 (8,9,10,11,12,1) - This angle and stream plays like crap, too far away, too spaced out. Do it like you did at 00:53:627 (9,10,11,12,1) - did
02:25:573 (4,5,1,2) - Again with the jump section starting and the new combos, very out of place here. tbh you only needed to tell me once to get me to change all instances of them lol
02:44:222 (1,2,3) - Weird feeling start and stop motion. Again this is like 01:15:681 - no idea, this feels really pretty much ok for me besides it's right->down->up(to the next)->left instead of repeating the same stop, go thing..?
03:17:465 (4,5,1,2) - Blah blah new combos blah blah jump section did
03:38:221 (4,5,1,2) - same same
03:45:032 (8,9) - Weird place to have these circles, this segment is pretty good about overlapping up until these two (the 3 circle is in the way) ok avoided overlapping them

Last edited by Okoratu 2016-02-18T14:51:30+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-02-18T00:57:53+00:00

J1NX1337

stacked all and fixed blankets

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Enhu

117 posts

Joined June 2013

Enhu 2016-02-18T06:30:07+00:00

Charles445 wrote:
[General]

[collab hard?]
played this on DT lol sanic
00:41:951 (3,1) - This screwed me up SUPER hard. I wanted to press the big white tick so bad fixed
01:44:222 (4,1) - I saw it coming this time but the damage was done fixed
Other than that this diff is really playing it safe, so there's nothing to say.

J1NX1337 wrote:
[collab hard?]

okoratu? enhu? gee I dunno who mapped this? do I get a free mod if I guess right? lol
Nice Collab! Was really fun to play. Mainly pointing out the same kind of crap as before

Enhu's Parts

1) 00:28:654 (3,2) - Maybe stack? since i remapped this part everything got fugged up and the mod points out something that it shouldn't lol

2) 00:36:600 (2,3) - Potential for blanket? ^same

3) 00:38:384 (1) - Curve this a bit more so it doesn't overlap with 00:37:897 (3) - ? Would also flow a bit better back to 00:39:195 (2) - fixed?

4) 00:42:438 (1,2,3,4,1) - I'm not really fond of this pattern at all, it didn't feel satisfying to play imo. Spacing-wise, I also think 00:43:573 (1) - is too close. It's fine here 00:38:384 (1) - because of the half beat separation. The combination of these two things makes it awkward. i remember the thing i did here and i understand what you mean, i did something lol

5) 00:43:573 (1,2) - Blanket could also be much better. Probably irrelevant if you fix the previous part. fixed

6) 00:49:411 (3,3) - Stack? fixed

7) 01:08:222 (1,2) - Would blanket these properly fixed

8) 01:41:951 (1,4) - Stack? fixed

9) 02:10:492 (1,1) - Stack these properly. They're a bit off fixed

10) 03:00:438 (4,1) - Could better blanket these fixed

11) 03:29:141 (4,5) - Not sure about the spacing difference here. I'd just even out the spacing uh oh, i increased the spacing between them for more emphasis, since oko did the same thing at the intro i thought it would be good to match him, if more people points this out i will change it

Cool mapset and nice song, hope it gets ranked soon~

Nozhomi wrote:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...shitmodding delivery (M4M answer).

- collab hard? :
[*]00:31:249 (3,4) - The breakflow is pain here. You create a counter movement when you naturally want to go for 00:31:897 (1) - . uhh i don't really understand what breaks flow here
[*]00:43:573 (1) - I understand your stack but...having a lower spacing kill the dynamic of this section's end for me. Even a stack with 00:43:249 (4) - would have more sense. changed this already because of JINX mod, and becuase of remap lol
[*]00:48:114 (2,3) - Stack them better ? Same for 00:49:411 (3,3) - . fixed
[*]02:17:951 (3,1) - Move them to 95:26 for two reason : blanket and flow. fixed[/list]

Sry too lazy to shitmod other diffs (and I'm bad you know).
Mukyu~

thanks guys!!

Okoratu

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Topic Starter

Okoratu 2016-02-18T15:40:17+00:00

J1NX1337 wrote:
>mfw I get ninja'd by Charles while writing my mod dadfjshdjgkglo

Note: Some stuff might be irrelevant now after enhu's remake and charles' mod so like, ignore them in that case lol

Normal Mod
[easy?]

Not much to say here except for some blankets and minor details. Great Easy, I really like the way it follows the music!

1) 01:05:627 (3) - Position this just a bit lower so that the approach circle captures the same amount of (2)'s start and end points. i did something tho im not sure if i understood what you wanted

2) 01:06:276 (4,1) - Blanket could be better, even if it's unintended. d

3) 01:09:519 (1,2) - Signicant spacing difference between these. i thought you were like talking about 0.1x but then it was .03 lol

4) 01:12:114 (1,2,3) - Form a perfect vertical line with these? (1)'s end point is a bit off. Alternatively just align (3)'s start point with (1)'s end point for a small nook with the circle. did something different

5) 02:06:600 (1) - imo this would look better if you positioned it just a bit more to the left for a better line with 02:06:276 (4,1) - . this is next level nazi

6) 02:20:870 (2,3) - I know you don't care too much, but the blanket here could be a bit better. xD (compare approach circle to (2)'s start and end points) hah joke's on you this disappeared with charles mod

7) 03:03:032 (3,1) - Blanket could be bit better here too. rofl

8) 03:17:627 (2,1) - Kinda caught my attention in the editor but it's completely invisible while playing so it doesn't really matter. Feel free not to do anything about it. i don't fix stuff that don't matter

9) 03:24:438 (1) - Same as 1) lol what? no this makes no sense

10) 03:28:330 (3,4) - Blanket could be a bit better. no

11) 03:30:924 (3) - I think this would look nicer if the curve blanketed the start point of 03:32:222 (1) - while the reverse slider's end is in the cove of (1) no that would play more awkwardly..

[normal?]

Nice Normal even though it uses noticeable copy and paste patterns at a few points, but whatever. Mostly pointing out similar stuff to Easy.

1) 00:16:978 (4,1) - Blanket could be better™ z

2) 00:36:762 (2,3) - 1,04x spacing, doesn't matter much but thought I'd mention anyways fix

3) 00:42:276 (3,4) - Blanket could also be a bit better did something

4) 01:32:222 (5,1) - Same tbh not supposed to be one

5) 01:52:330 (4,5,6) - Maybe move these to the top right a bit so that 01:51:032 (1,2,4) - form a better triangle? fix

6) 02:21:519 (5) - Blanket could be just a liiitle bit better if you raised the end of (5) a bit ye maybe maybe not, prolly not

7) 03:12:438 (3,4,5,6,7) - Okay I can see why you C&P'd for the others at 02:04:978 (3,4,5,6,7) - and 01:02:708 (3,4,5,6,7) - but here it isn't emphasizing the same part of the song, should be at 02:56:870 - instead. At its current position, it feels like a consistency error and you can notice it while playing. So I'd either put this pattern where it belongs or just remake it here. what i didnt copy paste any of these. it's just supposed to be a different pattern for once to not make this too monotonous

8) 03:36:114 (3,4) - Okay I think you could at least improve this one. Green or blue answer pls xD all answers are blue, i did this

[collab hard?]

okoratu? enhu? gee I dunno who mapped this? do I get a free mod if I guess right? lol
Nice Collab! Was really fun to play. Mainly pointing out the same kind of crap as before

Oko's Parts

1) 00:03:357 (1,2) - "Could improve that blanket a bit." - Most memorable quotes of Jinx 2016 ehh did something that wasn't a blanket

2) 00:18:924 (1,2) - ^ no that would impact movement through this too much

3) 01:01:087 (4,1) - Holy shit, is that an actual perfect blanket? xD Anyway, I'd move the vector of 01:01:735 (1) - a bit to the right so it goes neatly right between the start and end points of 01:01:087 (4) - ... no that doesn't improve anything lol

4) 01:25:087 (1,3) - These would also look better if blanketed properly ya

5) 01:29:303 (2,3) - Same tbh then it'd overlap so no

6) 02:02:384 (4,4) - Stack? no. that would impact readability, this is off intentionally

7) 03:45:032 (7) - I'd lower the hitsound volume here at least. I thought it was a bit hard to hear what the quarter beat slider was emphasizing.

[insane?]

Never before has AR8.7 felt so fast before. Weird. Maybe because of the SV somehow? Not a problem in any case.
Cool Insane, plays without problems. Pretty hip blazer bézier curves and streams too.

1) 00:03:032 (5) - Uhh, are these curve points intentional? lol take a slider and end it with a red tick then hit crtl+g and that's what happens

2) 00:21:843 (2,1) - Maybe make these have the same shape by making them parallel? That curve is unnoticeable anyway lol then this doesn't matter???? if it's not noticable??

3) 00:33:195 (1) - I think this wave could look a bit better unless it was your intention to not make it look perfect. i make waves like that, i use them a lot lol.

4) 00:35:303 (1,2,3) - Same spacing? It's a bit off the things you care about are ridiculous

5) 00:37:897 (1,2,3) - Same? same

6) 00:57:519 (4,1) - Blanket could be a bit better. faskl;dfjaklsdfjlkasdfl;kasdlfkjals;kfj

7) 01:06:600 (6,1) - Parallel curves maybe? nah 6 is supposed to point to wards 1's head

8) 01:57:843 (2,4) - Better blanket? moved the slider

9) 03:02:059 (4,1) - ^ asdfasdqwerhjhkkl;l'khgfdsa

10) 03:06:276 (1) - Move it just a bit to the right for a better blanket moved

11) 03:40:005 (1) - Maybe make this go neatly right between 03:39:357 (3,4) - (point it a bit more to the left) 4 is supposed to point towards 1, that is all..

[huh?]

Really nice diff. Flows and plays well, quite enjoyable.

1) 00:04:654 (1,2) - Blanket could be a bit better. actually done

2) 00:37:573 (2,3,4) - stack with 00:36:438 (3) - ? that doesn't matter, like it doesn't even remotely matter

3) 01:06:600 (6) - Reposition this a bit to the top right for a better blanket with (4)? not supposed to be a blanket

4) 01:09:195 (4) - Curve a bit less for better slider leniency. overwritten with the changes following from charles' mod

5) 01:23:789 (2) - NC here instead of 01:23:627 (1) - ? no i changed it to sth different in charles' mod

6) 01:23:951 (3,9) - Stack? nah

7) 02:18:762 (3) - Place this more to the left for a little blanket or whatever yes

Cool mapset and nice song, hope it gets ranked soon~

thankkkkkkks

Nozhomi wrote:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...shitmodding delivery (M4M answer).

- General :
Remove all these stupid useless greenlineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees on your diffs. if they don't do anything it doesn't matter if they stay or go
03:45:114 - Put the volume lower, it's clearly too loud when the beat is almost audible.
You forget a clap at 03:07:249 - on every diff. fixed
00:33:195 - and equivalent parts after, you just make me bleed my ears with these full basic whistle sliders ;w; Why not keep them like all other, silenced ? Because if it's for emphasis the bells, it's not worth at all. i like them

- easy? :
00:05:627 (2) - Remove this circle. Because you let 00:03:032 - empty, if you do same here, it does a consistency with your rhythm. Would do it for 00:10:816 (2) - too. it's consistent with 00:10:816 (2) - lol
01:19:573 (3) - This one is not necessary imo because you follow vocal just before. due to changes involving mapping spinners out this is now clickable
01:47:141 (2,3,1) - Omg dude do a symetric pattern plzzzzz. i tried

- normal? :
00:42:276 (3,4) - Well you already know what I'll say so...will be the only one. BLANKET (saw an other one 01:32:222 (5,1) - , check other). fixed with jinx's nazi mod of doom
Clean

- collab hard? :
00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - Well I kinda feel this pattern is not right. Since the dream hit have same intensities here, spacing should be constant for 00:11:789 (3,4,5,6) - and only a jump for 00:12:438 (1) - to emphasis the start of a new section. Would make more sense imo. THE DREAM HIT, answer: this is right the drum repeats an 1,2 1,2 pattern and this pattern separates both 1,2 1,2 instances
Ofc I passed a lot of 03:36:924 (3,2) - bad stack so I let you take care of them~ UH will see but this one isn't even off

- insane? :
00:40:492 (1,2,3) - I don't get the reason of a so high spacing when 00:42:438 (1,2,3) - have a lower one and are stronger. cuz patterns
00:57:519 (4,1) - Learn to blanket dude :c the point of a bezier gimmick is to not have blankets .

Sry too lazy to shitmod other diffs (and I'm bad you know).
Mukyu~

thanks

Damnae and Smokeman answers mia, will do the following after that:
update tags
offset -8

Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 2016-02-18T17:11:26+00:00

donald

ecdonald wrote:
00:50:384 (2,3) - you made 00:49:087 (2,3) - like blanket so I'd recommend that you make this point like blanket too for better looking http://puu.sh/naPuu/857b5d702e.jpg (example) ok
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6,1) - I would like more if placing be like 00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - 's polygon changed the first one

battoru

Battle wrote:
Smokeperson ey b0ss
widescreen thing ok
Consider raising volume at the start, 22% is pretty hard to hear, plus the other diffs have this at like 44% ok
Which things you emphasize is kinda inconsistent, take for example the start of the map, 00:16:330 (1) - is arguably a strong note that leads to a denser beat in the song, whereas 00:15:032 (1) - has large spacing that normal, the beat pointed out has no increased spacing for it's emphasis despite it being arguably more important. Same thing can be said to something like 00:22:816 (1) - , where there's no increased spacing despite it being a start of the vocals, something completely different from what the song has been so far, and things such as 00:20:222 (1) - which repeat multiple times have more emphasis .3. they spacing is the same in everything but the kiai. I wanted the kiai to be a bit more special by occasionally increasing the spacing on upbeats and slider-slider patterns. It would be wierd to do the same thing here.
00:11:789 (3,4,5,6) - It makes sense, at the same time I dunno if advanced players actually know how to read something that's basically collapsing on itself, so like, it might be confusing .3. gonna change it to smth else (imo its cool but meh)
00:46:168 (1) - You could make this 3/2 repeat slider to follow vocals, making it similar to 00:47:465 (2) - since it kinda goes along with vocals It would be way to boring if i just did hige sliders...
00:53:951 (1) - Do 1.7x ds to go along with the structure you have on later kiais? All other kiais start with the first note being 1.7x ds away from previous note wops, i thought i fixed this :/
01:04:816 (2,3,1) - I'm confused you can stack these but you don't lol stacking them looks rly shitty imo
01:26:708 (1,2) - Is it like part of your aesthetic or sth? its a part of life ~~
01:48:438 (1,2,3,4) - Just gonna put that it isn't really done the same way for 3,4 as you did before, don't know how much you care for structure tho why do ppl want to see the same shit all the time... Its not like this a rly "exotic" way to map that part. It just utilizes both upbeats while looking more interesting than before
02:37:087 (3,4,5,6,1) - Stilllllllll the king
03:18:924 (4,1) - Obligatory "you can blanket this better" I ll get so triggered because of all these blanket complains...
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6,1) - Even like, slightly bigger spacing would probably help, cuz it may be hard for newer players to read the notes that are more toward the end since, let's be honest, most people who are playing advanced probably still have skins that have 300 hit indicators, combine that with these collapsing notes and it's pretty obvious why this can be a problem, especially on a lower diff aimed for newer players jeez... i made the spacing bigger.

gurden

Garden wrote:
00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - i do like the idea, but idk whether ppl at this level would feel at a loss looking at those tangled approaching circles lol changed to smth else
02:37:087 (3,4,5,6,1) - 03:28:978 (3,4,5,6) - actually confusing spacing, but ppl need to practice reading to get better lol, so i suggest making these three parts all the same instead of letting this one 00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - stand out alone with a circular pattern, that would feel a bit weird cuz it appears only once throughout the diff changed the above to smth better

charl

Charles445 wrote:
General
Add "touhou" to the tags. to who?
Spinners are a thing! That can be used! In beatmaps! Only my washing machine does that :^)
You should probably have some! In the difficulties!

Might want to work on consistency in new combos / have oko go through and re-NC stuff. It's a little bit weird as it is. OKO PLS HALP Q_Q
01:22:492 (1,2,3,4,5) - Weird rhythm to have when the music is doing this... At first i had 8 1/2 sliders there, then changed it to slider-2noted-slider... patterns, but i never rly liked who these turned out (too much emphasis on the stacks, 8 siders are WAY to repetitive for my taste) so i used smth liek this .-. If this is borderline off-beat/rythm mapping then i ll just put those 1/2 spams back :'(
02:24:762 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same thing
03:16:654 (1,2,3,4,5) - same thing
Other than inconsistent new combos, that's all that bothered me.

jinx

J1NX1337 wrote:
1) 00:25:411 (3,4) - These and 00:27:519 (2) - were really unintuitive to play for me. The AR7 makes it especially more challenging to read. Consider doing something like extending 00:25:411 (3,1,2) - to the beats. u 2 pro m8. But for real , its makes this part look a bit more unique so its not that gamebraking imo

2) 00:31:087 (4,5) - Stack these with the end of 00:29:627 (1) - ? uuh.. its not wortht he effort to change everything for that

3) 00:36:438 (3,4) - 1,40x spacing? wops

4) 00:47:465 (3,4) - Blanket could be just a bit better if you lower the end point of (3) slightly. k

5) 01:04:816 (2,3,1) - Is this stacking intentional? Looks kinda messy lol. Also stack 01:06:924 (1) - with them in the process. it is stacked on 01:04:816 (2) - (i rly like doing these stacks .-.

6) 01:27:681 (1,1) - Maybe stack these. Doing so would also make a better triangle with 01:28:330 (3,4,1) - but this one's pretty subjective.

7) 01:29:789 (3,1) - Blanket could be bit better. (check the end point on (3)) i liek it this way more

8) 01:40:654 (1,3) - This blanket could also be a bit better. . _ .

9) 01:45:843 (1,3) - Use the same curve for these to better blanket 01:48:114 (4) -i changed the curve a bit so i can fit the repeat slider better

10) 02:37:735 (1) - I'd add 1,4x spacing or something to this to better emphasize the end and break here. Otherwise it feels like it just belongs to the same as 02:37:087 (3,4,5,6) - even though there is a clear sound change here. It felt unnatural to me so that's why I'm pointing it out. we gonna kill the new players with a pattern like this wtf

11) 02:43:897 (3,3) - Stack? couldnt fit the stack so i didnt

nozohmi

Nozhomi wrote:
00:11:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - This is EXTREMLY hard to read for this diff. You can't really know if it's a 1/1 or 1/2 stack at this lvl. So do smth to make them more readable pls. its a wierd stack jeez... i changed it
On your kiais, I don't really understand how works your rhythm construction. Because I see you did something consistent all along, but it makes no sense for me. For example 00:56:222 (4) - I understand you put a 1/2 slider for the drum, but 00:57:681 - why a break here when you mapped vocal for 00:54:924 (4) - ? So map them all except 00:58:978 - because there is no vocal nor beat, or don't map them. i left it blank according to the song rythm...
01:27:032 (2) - I don't think stack a so strong beat is a good idea, and could be missread too. Same for 01:32:222 (2) - and similar. It's more of an aesthetic thing. It also has a special emphasis since its the only part of the song and the map which are liek that
01:47:141 (3,4) - You blanket the 1st one correctly so why not this one too ? couldnt fit the repeatslider next to the slider in the position i wanted w/o doing that. Besides offputting blankets like this is not that bad imo. The circle still has the same distance between start and finish of the sllider but is not parallel to the whole body.
02:16:654 (7,1) - You always used stacks for 1/2 gap, so doing right now a 1/1 stack could be missread by an advanced player. Same for 01:14:384 (4,1) - and similar. It's a consistent thing i did... i think it fits rly cool B^)
02:37:087 (3,4,5,6,1) - Would use a little more big spacing, but this is a lot better to read than other one.
02:43:897 (3,3) - Cmon you can stack them. i cant curve 02:44:222 (1) - this more w/o it looking wierd and forced and iw ant the blanket 02:44:870 (2) - on this, but it doesnt rly matter tbh
03:28:978 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same as other. yo
03:45:114 - Maybe finish here like all other diff ? It's really stange than your the only one who did that. You can do it like this http://puu.sh/nbOdT/b2c75dad5f.jpg .nice

how did you get these mods so fast...

thanks ppl

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Okoratu 2016-02-18T17:33:07+00:00

(smokeman is) updated?

-Lemons

219 posts

Joined July 2012

-Lemons 2016-02-19T21:04:14+00:00

General

I think silencing the slider end of the blue tick at the very end of the map would be nicer sounding than having the double click, especially on the later difficulties (even tho on the later diffs it's a double i still think it sounds better)

Easy?
tfw i can't even be a nazi over blankets because you don't do them
except for here (kind of) 03:23:789 (4) - mitebcool if it's curved more at the bottom side but then it wouldn't be a copy of 3 so aaaaaaaaa

Normal?
once again all I have is nitpicky stuff nobody actually notices or cares about
02:59:141 (2,3) - can you make these straight pls, or make them more exaggerated like 02:53:789 (2,3) -

Smokeman's advanced??
00:04:654 (1,2,3,4) - I think these are switched around, http://puu.sh/ne1aV/af23b5e4ed.jpg fits better imo
01:14:384 (4,1) - This stack is confusing since you have 01:13:897 (2,3) - this right before it and the spacing rhythm is different while the visual spacing is the same, i would fix it by doing something like this http://puu.sh/ne1C8/97f045ec98.jpg but up2uhow you fix it or if you even fix it
02:16:654 (7,1) - ^
I was gonna link the third time you did it but tbh i think you don't even need to change it since it happens 3 times but rather than leave this diff blank I'll just write this overly long sentence talking about it! but if you do change it 03:08:546 (4,1) -

Collaboratory hard difficulty???
01:27:032 (3) - this clap is so weak compared to all the other claps spacing wise 01:28:168 (2,3) - for reference
thnx i feel inadequate

Insame/
01:07:897 (4,1) - this blanket sticks out so much cuz it's so tight and you basically haven't blanketed much before this
02:28:654 (1,2,3,4) - I think these sliders are a bit too fast for how little movement you have with 02:27:357 (1,2,3,4) - , maybe slow them down so it's not quite so zoom zoom sanic
03:02:059 (4,1) - speaking of blankets this one is a little sloppy also it's not as tight at the one 2 minutes ago so it also sticks out

Damn that's a new background's insane?
01:17:303 (1,2) - i think you can blanket these and it'll look fancy fancy

letters' insane
00:11:789 (5,1) - the bell sound starts on 5 but the stacking starts on 1 so it's kinda jarring
00:11:951 (1,2,3) - I'm a big fan of doing this http://puu.sh/ne37k/d3eedca18d.jpg for this style of stacking
00:58:816 (2) - I think this should be spaced more to make it a little more obvious it's 1/1 especailly since you use spacing like this 01:01:411 (4,5) - for 1/2 and it can be confusing on sightread
01:23:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - so boring ;w; you can do some cool stuff like rotate 3,4 5,6 7,8 to be all kinds of different patterns instead of this repeated back and forth motion over and over, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4567227 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4567229 was my favorite after playing with these notes for a bit was this style of motion
03:28:978 (5,1) - same as the other bell sound, I think the sudden jump to 1 while it's the same sound being mapped is bleh
I luv ur overlaps <3

huh????????????
How do you just like switch your slider styles so easily these ones use the standard 3 points while insane used like 5 points oko u crayzee i wish i could do that
teach me how to hitsound gud like you also nothing to change perf diff

i'll take this song to the grave with me that took like an hour

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-02-19T21:45:00+00:00

(you asked me to) mod this?

huh?

<3

dq09874ß092836's insane?

00:35:141 (4) - Having the first note of the instrument that you always map with jumps on a slidertail feels off, I mean it's clickable at all other instances so why not here too?
It feels also off that 00:42:438 (1,2,3,4,5,6) isn't spaced as much as all the others, why not? Also, having the upbeat under a stack doesn't give it any emphasis at all either, here I would understand it if you made 00:42:276 (7,1) a slider lol. But yeah, I'd suggest a higher spaced hexagon. Both points apply to the second time this occurs too ofc
All those small jump-patterns in the Kiais, like 00:57:843 (1,2,3,4) - 01:03:032 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:222 (1,2,3,4) - 01:13:411 (1,2,3,4) - feel extremely forced, because they are mapped as if every single note of them had the same sound to be mapped to because they are all mapped the same, but they don't, so I'd highly recommend adding some sliders there and focus on either vocals instrumentals a bit more clearly, bc right now it seems rather monotonous and not really like it's mapped to something from the song, it just happens to be that out of all the rhythms every note as a note of some of those rhythms (well, some don't really have anything at all, like 01:03:195 (2) - 01:13:573 (2) -)
01:05:303 (4) - Uuuuh why is this spaced so abnormally high, except for aesthetics? feels very forced, that beat is not that emphasized anywhere else really (sometimes even not at all like 01:07:897 (5) - lol)
02:29:627 (4,1) - spacing is unnaturally high for this section, you didn't space any of the others like this. same at 03:21:518 (4,1) -
02:36:600 (2,3,4) - those huge jumps don't seem supported by the music

damnae's insane?

02:32:546 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - this feels really boring and I don't really understand why you mapped it like that after 02:27:357 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - being so intense when nothing in the music changes except the claps adding to it, that's kinda the wrong way around
Second Kiai and especially second chorus feel a lot more difficult than the first one, is that intended? bc I don't see much sense in that either
some stuff Charles already pointed out

insane?

00:48:762 (1,4) - I feel like they should be emphasized more, dunno why they aren't
01:55:735 (5) - the jump around this note feels really forced to me, doesn't stand out more than any other notes imo
02:14:059 (5,2,3) - lewd
02:52:492 (2,3,4) - I didn't really pay attention to the hitsounding but this sounds pretty quiet o:
03:20:546 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't really know why this is mapped much more dense than the previous combo but it also kinda takes away the emphasis from the next combo which deserves it more imo

collab hard?

02:33:195 (3,1) - 02:35:789 (3,1) - manually stack those? they're the only perfect stacks in the whole diff so I don't think that's intended

smokeman's advanced?

00:53:303 (1) - no other diff NCs here and it seems pretty unnecessary anyways, so I'd recommend removing it for consistency n stuff (same for similar NCs obviously)
01:18:600 (5) - shouldn't there be a NC here? (instead of 01:19:249 (1) - hehe) If it's bc of half-bpm-section it still seems weird as 1) 03:12:762 (1) and 02:20:870 (1) are NCd too and 2) the combos in the other slow sections aren't that long either iirc (except 01:40:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - which hence could use NCs imo)
03:44:870 (3) - when the slider is this long the ignored note at 03:45:032 is really audible whereas when shortening it I barely notice 03:45:114 at all so I'd kinda recommend shortening it, sounds off otherwise imo (and the lower diffs end there too so yeah)

(easy and normal) are just doing what easy and normal-diffs do?

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Okoratu 2016-02-19T23:31:00+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
(you asked me to) mod this?

huh?
<3 fixed
insane?
00:48:762 (1,4) - I feel like they should be emphasized more, dunno why they aren't
01:55:735 (5) - the jump around this note feels really forced to me, doesn't stand out more than any other notes imo even spacing transition into the stream and pattern uhh
02:14:059 (5,2,3) - lewd less lewd
02:52:492 (2,3,4) - I didn't really pay attention to the hitsounding but this sounds pretty quiet o: oops
03:20:546 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't really know why this is mapped much more dense than the previous combo but it also kinda takes away the emphasis from the next combo which deserves it more imo reason is 02:31:249 (1,2,3,4) - being more dense after one combo
collab hard?
02:33:195 (3,1) - 02:35:789 (3,1) - manually stack those? they're the only perfect stacks in the whole diff so I don't think that's intended more like don't care
(easy and normal) are just doing what easy and normal-diffs do?

Thanks

:D

-Lemons wrote:

General
I think silencing the slider end of the blue tick at the very end of the map would be nicer sounding than having the double click, especially on the later difficulties (even tho on the later diffs it's a double i still think it sounds better) gonna make it more quiet altogether when adding more tags etc

Easy?
tfw i can't even be a nazi over blankets because you don't do them
except for here (kind of) 03:23:789 (4) - mitebcool if it's curved more at the bottom side but then it wouldn't be a copy of 3 so aaaaaaaaa sigh fixed

Normal?
once again all I have is nitpicky stuff nobody actually notices or cares about
02:59:141 (2,3) - can you make these straight pls, or make them more exaggerated like 02:53:789 (2,3) - ok

Collaboratory hard difficulty???
01:27:032 (3) - this clap is so weak compared to all the other claps spacing wise 01:28:168 (2,3) - for reference nice catch, fixed, will tell enhu to fix the one he made consistent with it as well
thnx i feel inadequate

Insame/
01:07:897 (4,1) - this blanket sticks out so much cuz it's so tight and you basically haven't blanketed much before this makes it stick out so i don't think this needs a change
02:28:654 (1,2,3,4) - I think these sliders are a bit too fast for how little movement you have with 02:27:357 (1,2,3,4) - , maybe slow them down so it's not quite so zoom zoom sanic that was the point though, i don't want to change SV in this diff much since the reference style i had in mind didn't do it much either
03:02:059 (4,1) - speaking of blankets this one is a little sloppy also it's not as tight at the one 2 minutes ago so it also sticks out

huh????????????
How do you just like switch your slider styles so easily these ones use the standard 3 points while insane used like 5 points oko u crayzee i wish i could do that I'm collecting different aesthetical styles to bring a bit of variation into my solo sets
teach me how to hitsound gud like you also nothing to change perf diff

i'll take this song to the grave with me that took like an hour

thanks!

Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 2016-02-20T00:50:32+00:00

bonsa

[quote="Bonsai"](you asked me to) mod this?

smokeman's advanced?

00:53:303 (1) - no other diff NCs here and it seems pretty unnecessary anyways, so I'd recommend removing it for consistency n stuff (same for similar NCs obviously) k
01:18:600 (5) - shouldn't there be a NC here? (instead of 01:19:249 (1) - hehe) If it's bc of half-bpm-section it still seems weird as 1) 03:12:762 (1) and 02:20:870 (1) are NCd too and 2) the combos in the other slow sections aren't that long either iirc (except 01:40:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - which hence could use NCs imo) wops
03:44:870 (3) - when the slider is this long the ignored note at 03:45:032 is really audible whereas when shortening it I barely notice 03:45:114 at all so I'd kinda recommend shortening it, sounds off otherwise imo (and the lower diffs end there too so yeah) followed a mod w/o rly thinking about it... fml

/quote]

LEMOOONS

Smokeman's advanced??
00:04:654 (1,2,3,4) - I think these are switched around, http://puu.sh/ne1aV/af23b5e4ed.jpg fits better imo i dont like it since i keep using those note-1/2slider patterns.
01:14:384 (4,1) - This stack is confusing since you have 01:13:897 (2,3) - this right before it and the spacing rhythm is different while the visual spacing is the same, i would fix it by doing something like this http://puu.sh/ne1C8/97f045ec98.jpg but up2uhow you fix it or if you even fix it
02:16:654 (7,1) - ^
I was gonna link the third time you did it but tbh i think you don't even need to change it since it happens 3 times but rather than leave this diff blank I'll just write this overly long sentence talking about it! but if you do change it 03:08:546 (4,1) - i dont know about this... Looks rly wierd imo. I did it occasinally on 172 snapped but on 1/1 it looks even worse. I think the song indicates it, but also the NC (gonna change it to this if more ppls complain)

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-02-20T01:15:50+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
Bonsai wrote:
huh?
<3 fixed

</3

Feerum

osu! Alumni

2,042 posts

Joined August 2014

Feerum 2016-02-20T03:17:26+00:00

I wish i could mod standard like Bonsai.

Pururut

488 posts

Joined March 2012

Pururut 2016-02-20T05:42:56+00:00

huh?

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-02-20T16:30:43+00:00

rip sr

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247,39,223573,2,0,P|218:41|206:39,1,35,2|0,2:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
141,115,223897,6,0,P|142:139|140:161,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
51,217,224222,2,0,P|50:193|52:171,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
50,182,224465,1,0,0:0:0:0:
50,182,224546,1,8,0:0:0:0:
165,272,224708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
231,192,224870,1,2,0:0:0:0:
274,311,225032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
274,311,225114,1,0,0:0:0:0:

will re the two mods another time, dont rly have time now

Natteke desu

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Natteke desu 2016-02-20T22:15:54+00:00

[uhu]
00:06:600 (3,4) - i'd say slider instead because of bell, which is obv stronger, also it'll be more consistent rhythm-wice because of 00:05:951 (1,2) -
00:07:249 (1,2) - my face isn't really happy about this jump because personally i don't see any reason to put it here. When 00:07:897 (3) - right because of tomb or whatever it is 00:07:735 (2) - makes no sense because beat is weak

try

or maybe in other way idk, just wanted to show spacings i found more appropriate
00:09:357 (6,7) - same, in this case i'd move (6) closer
00:10:005 (2) - why no circles

? Immo some kind of circle pattern with small spacing would be awesome
00:10:816 (6) - could be replaced by circles as well
00:15:195 (2,3) - same circles complaint but in this case could be done as jumps
00:17:303 (6) - could be replaced by one circle at the white tick for making things more emphasised at strong beats what is nice
00:23:627 (3) - doesn't click well with me, i'd say something like this would be better but idk
00:24:438 (2) - jump please, also see my suggestion about 00:17:303

box

00:26:384 (5,1) - it would be more logical if you'll swap ncs since this instrument part starts from 00:26:384 (5) -
00:27:032 (2,3,4) - (4) could be moved even more
00:29:627 (2) - won't mention this again, i believe you'll mind something even without my suggestion if you agree with concept (or you still can pm me or something)
00:29:951 (3) - 00:28:654 (3) - w h y n o t s a m e
00:34:492 (1) - ELVIS GAY SLIDER YAY
00:37:573 (2,3,4) - try. Yes, this will make strong beats unclickable, but it would give a nice impact to that string and
bells 00:37:897 (2,3,4) - here
00:40:168 (2,3,4) - this. Main reason what made me suggest this kind of rhythms is in current state it feels like TOO MUCH STUFF AROUND STRONG BEATS and in my opinion it makes them not properly emphasised. I'll stop with them from here, yet again i think you can deal with them without my mentions if you agree
00:41:951 (4) - dis form gabe mi a cringe (00:39:681 (1) - dis too btw) maek it moer balanked bicusz i wand 2 eckstend ma mod xdfddd
00:52:816 (4,5) - needs more spacing between them in my opinion because intense stuff in music starts from 00:52:816 (4) - and considering nextcoming jumps this looks questionable
00:55:735 (3,4,5) - wurf, do not look about design thing main thing here is rhythm suggestion (won't mention same further coming stuff because blah-blah-blah)
00:58:816 (5) - try single circle at the white tick, would work awesome with emphasising both vocals and sample things
01:04:330 (1) - immo should be moved waaay more from 01:04:168 (4) - because of 1)Downbeat 2)New part in vocals start (downbeat thing again) 3)I love jumps
parts till 02:27:357 (1) - is mostly similar so i skip them since you can find every thing mentoined above there and i don't have any other complaints (maybe i have but mostly it's too nazi stuff what doesn't really worth being mentoined)

so as for 02:27:357 (1) - personally i'm not really ok with general spacing here this part of song calls for something less spaced immo, dunno if you'll agree but consider nerfing it, jumps were fine (in terms of emphasising stuff) tho

02:43:573 (3,4) - why so far away? Maybe it's problems of mine, but i really don't hear anything what could made you move it so far

so yet again, since rest untill very last part is pretty similar i avoid posting more same stuff, except maybe what about 03:29:627 (1) - kiai for this part? Immo it would be pretty nice because it's nuff intense for kiai and also will make more emphasise on the last part which is calm

i'll mod other diffs ~~someday~~ soon

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-20T23:41:47+00:00

EvilElvis wrote:
[uhu]
00:06:600 (3,4) - i'd say slider instead because of bell, which is obv stronger, also it'll be more consistent rhythm-wice because of 00:05:951 (1,2) - ehh i really like how 3,4 have to clicky sounds and i think having just 4 sliders for this measure would be kinda dull when leading into the part where drums kick in idk D:
00:07:249 (1,2) - my face isn't really happy about this jump because personally i don't see any reason to put it here. When 00:07:897 (3) - right because of tomb or whatever it is 00:07:735 (2) - makes no sense because beat is weak the beat on 00:07:735 - has a fat drum hit ?? it even has an equally big jump as 00:07:249 (1) - which has the same kind of bass o.o
try
or maybe in other way idk, just wanted to show spacings i found more appropriate
00:09:357 (6,7) - same, in this case i'd move (6) closer moved 6 closer without destroying my original intention in this measure to have all drums mapped out as circles with focus on the ones that have instruments making 12 12 12 1 separations because last object is a slider
00:10:005 (2) - why no circles ? Immo some kind of circle pattern with small spacing would be awesome because 00:04:816 (2) - is hold-only as well so this one is hold only too! it maps over the same sounds
00:10:816 (6) - could be replaced by circles as well I really feel like a slider captures these held sounds better than circles and didn't know how to make a circle pattern for 00:10:492 (3) - without making it completely awkward so i did just 2 sliders
00:15:195 (2,3) - same circles complaint but in this case could be done as jumps the intention of this pattern is to hold the sounds the melody also holds which gives you 00:15:195 (2,3,4,5) -
00:17:303 (6) - could be replaced by one circle at the white tick for making things more emphasised at strong beats what is nice uhh i honestly cant tell which i prefer, yours is cool and mine also makes sense because you won't follow the slider through you'll just click and hold it a bit so i'd say it doesn't really matter which of these i use
00:23:627 (3) - doesn't click well with me, i'd say something like this would be better but idk did something different but changed rhythm as it was indeed weird
00:24:438 (2) - jump please, also see my suggestion about 00:17:303 - uhhh nope that doesn't make sense with my system for these sounds ): also it's a jump wtf o.o
box
00:26:384 (5,1) - it would be more logical if you'll swap ncs since this instrument part starts from 00:26:384 (5) - that doesn't look that nice also the same instrument repeats but i feel like the 2nd time it has more impact
00:27:032 (2,3,4) - (4) could be moved even more that only works if you change rhythm for this which i don't want to do to this entire part
00:29:627 (2) - won't mention this again, i believe you'll mind something even without my suggestion if you agree with concept (or you still can pm me or something) ehh i don't intend to do anything about this because i think sliders work just as well
00:29:951 (3) - 00:28:654 (3) - w h y n o t s a m e good question actually i don't even have an answer, remnant of the first half of this part maybe ? idk i don't think this rather small variation is hurting anyone if at all it might make this place more interesting
00:34:492 (1) - ELVIS GAY SLIDER YAY LOL
00:37:573 (2,3,4) - try. Yes, this will make strong beats unclickable, but it would give a nice impact to that string and
bells 00:37:897 (2,3,4) - here i had it like that initially but it felt really weird to me so i replaced the red tick sliders with triplets
00:40:168 (2,3,4) - this. Main reason what made me suggest this kind of rhythms is in current state it feels like TOO MUCH STUFF AROUND STRONG BEATS and in my opinion it makes them not properly emphasised. I'll stop with them from here, yet again i think you can deal with them without my mentions if you agree i had both but triplets really felt better for me :S
00:41:951 (4) - dis form gabe mi a cringe (00:39:681 (1) - dis too btw) maek it moer balanked bicusz i wand 2 eckstend ma mod xdfddd LOL i tried messing with them but i can't promise they look better
00:52:816 (4,5) - needs more spacing between them in my opinion because intense stuff in music starts from 00:52:816 (4) - and considering nextcoming jumps this looks questionable it's very simple increasing spacing towards 00:53:303 (7) - because the instrument kinda escalates towards the kiai i wanted a somewhat escalating jump pattern
00:55:735 (3,4,5) - wurf, do not look about design thing main thing here is rhythm suggestion (won't mention same further coming stuff because blah-blah-blah) VOCALS VOCALS VOCALS VOCALS these are there for VOCALS
00:58:816 (5) - try single circle at the white tick, would work awesome with emphasising both vocals and sample things that wouldn't fit the previous slider and making both circles like dqs01733 has them doesn't really add enough emphasis imo
01:04:330 (1) - immo should be moved waaay more from 01:04:168 (4) - because of 1)Downbeat 2)New part in vocals start (downbeat thing again) 3)I love jumps you get to have a jump pattern just after this and this way fits the atmo better imo (2 very long vocals with long sliders and not that harsh spacing)
parts till 02:27:357 (1) - is mostly similar so i skip them since you can find every thing mentoined above there and i don't have any other complaints (maybe i have but mostly it's too nazi stuff what doesn't really worth being mentoined) fuck i didn't really do much of this because i believe that both ways to interpret this song work very well next to each other and i don't think my rhythms are flawed

so as for 02:27:357 (1) - personally i'm not really ok with general spacing here this part of song calls for something less spaced immo, dunno if you'll agree but consider nerfing it, jumps were fine (in terms of emphasising stuff) tho nerfed slightly because i agree lol

02:43:573 (3,4) - why so far away? Maybe it's problems of mine, but i really don't hear anything what could made you move it so far true changed

so yet again, since rest untill very last part is pretty similar i avoid posting more same stuff, except maybe what about 03:29:627 (1) - kiai for this part? Immo it would be pretty nice because it's nuff intense for kiai and also will make more emphasise on the last part which is calm 00:12:438 - it's the same part as this lol so uhhh nope x_x

i'll mod other diffs ~~someday~~ soon

sorry for rejecting that much but my view on this song stays the same, thanks a lot for the time for these suggestions though

ProfessionalBox

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

771 posts

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ProfessionalBox 2016-02-21T18:28:28+00:00

Hello! Here for my end of the m4m

easy?

00:45:843 (3,1) - This is a minor thing but if you raise these up a bit they line up better with the previous slider which makes for "better flow"
00:50:708 (4,1) - The lining up of these is off by a ~~nazi~~ tiny margin. Make the end tic of 00:50:708 (4) - X:171 Y:127
00:52:654 (2) - I think you could improve this slider by making the wave larger like you've done with previous sliders like this (00:35:789 (1) - 00:34:492 (3) - )
02:49:411 (3) - This might be just me but this looks weird. Maybe try something like this?
Example
03:10:492 (2,3) - Maybe reverse the rhythm of these so that the it's circle + slider instead of slider + circle?

normal?

00:11:789 (4,5) - Why aren't these identical? The difference of these stands out for me atleast
00:54:438 - This empty space requires a circle imo. It fits really well and the vocals land on it so it would feel weird not to have something on this. This is the rhythm I'd go for
Example
01:36:762 (3,1) - I feel like the sliders here should blanket one another fully. Right now the beginning of the upper slider is left off the blanket which looks a bit weird. This is easily adjustible though so I'd recommend you give it a shot
01:56:870 (2,3) - Here is the same thing I pointed out earlier with the rhythm. I can see that you alternate between two main rhythms but i think the one I showed in that picture is the stronger/main rhythm and you should ATLEAST start off every kiai time with it so I won't be referring to it anymore :p
02:35:789 (2,3) - Although this is probably intentional I think it would be cooler to have these properly aligned instead of being reverse copies of one another
03:34:816 (1,2) - This one doesn't seem intentional though, make these properly aligned

smokeman's advanced?

00:37:735 (2) - I think that converting this slider into 2 circles instead would emphasize cool xylofone sound much better
00:43:573 (1) - Fix the tail of this slider, the curve isn't smooth at the moment
00:53:951 (1,3) - Blanket the head of (3) more, right now it looks a bit weird
01:01:573 (5) - I feel like this isn't needed. In case you remove this then remove this from the other kiai times aswell since I won't point them out.
01:04:816 (2,3) - Fix the stack
01:04:978 (3,1) - Same here
03:37:411 (1) - This curve is a bit underwhelming. Either make it more curved or remove the curve completely because right now it would work better as one of those

collab hard?

00:18:600 (4,1,2) - This whole pattern seems a bit weird since the sliders are pointing in the same direction, maybe do something like this?
Example
00:22:816 (1,3) - This overlap is ugly D:
00:41:627 (3,2) - This is not as major but you could lower the (2) a bit, but yeah this is not a must fix
01:06:276 (4,1) - I'd definetly try ty blanket these since it looks a bit off atm
01:22:492 (1,2,3,4) - I think this could look nice here since it increases the distance between (2) and (4) which are quite close to eachother
Example
02:13:735 (4) - Maybe curve this to blanket here?
02:27:357 - 02:37:735 - Has quite big sv compared to the other slow parts in the map. For consistancy you could make this part slower :p
03:15:843 (3) - This can definetly be made look better, add more curve

I guess that's it for the mod. Hope it helped atleast a bit

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