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WIFOM.exe Goodside won...... or Villager did anyway.
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well at least we know Zexion isn't the one making the NKs 
*sigh*
I am the governor. I was going to redirect the lynch away from SNB but I realised that would have exactly the same effect as SNB dying since it would be very obvious it was me, so I tried my best to not get revealed.
I am the governor. I was going to redirect the lynch away from SNB but I realised that would have exactly the same effect as SNB dying since it would be very obvious it was me, so I tried my best to not get revealed.
Added on, bird does not seem like she is gambiting, she really wants to be lynched, so she might be town.
But frostings wants the both dead, so he is scum.
vote: frostings
But frostings wants the both dead, so he is scum.
vote: frostings
Oh well, let's see if that's true.
The claim, that is, not the Frostings flip.
He's the last person I'd personally believe is scum.
He's the last person I'd personally believe is scum.
Why?
So which is scum more likely to do? someone following the crowd and being agreeable or someone challenging opinions and thinking about the game?
Another analogy for you to think about:
Are bootlickers/brown nosers at work town or scum?
Are bootlickers/brown nosers at work town or scum?
I don't know those terms but I've played all this stuff long enough to know that sheeping is mostly a scum move. We're still probably lynching myself, aren't we?
It doesn't matter at this point, that's what I mean.
Frostings is sheeping everything. Do you see me sheeping anything? Nope.Birdy wrote:
I don't know those terms but I've played all this stuff long enough to know that sheeping is mostly a scum move. We're still probably lynching myself, aren't we?
Therefore frostings is the scum and we should lynch him
Topic Starter
Maybe I can use the RNG thingy website to decide
Vote Count 3.3
Frosting[1] metal sonic1,
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[2] Birdy , Ace Timing
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[3] -[Jess]-, Zexion, Frosting,
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Vote Count 3.3
Frosting[1] metal sonic1,
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[2] Birdy , Ace Timing
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[3] -[Jess]-, Zexion, Frosting,
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
..
ok
let's pretend SNB and ms1 are telling the truth.
Zexion is probably town because N2 NK happened with him afk
So, from my perspective, scum is then guaranteed in either Jess or Ace
The only way we can lynch both of them is if we believe SNB is town
...
If we lynch SNB today, then we only have 1 shot to kill scum. The best odds are then 50/50.
I think the chance of SNB being scum is like 5%. Then not lynching SNB, we have a 5% chance of probably losing the game, which is better than 50% if we decide to lynch SNB today.
ok
let's pretend SNB and ms1 are telling the truth.
Zexion is probably town because N2 NK happened with him afk
So, from my perspective, scum is then guaranteed in either Jess or Ace
The only way we can lynch both of them is if we believe SNB is town
...
If we lynch SNB today, then we only have 1 shot to kill scum. The best odds are then 50/50.
I think the chance of SNB being scum is like 5%. Then not lynching SNB, we have a 5% chance of probably losing the game, which is better than 50% if we decide to lynch SNB today.
...
The problem now is ms1 thinks I'm scum for whatever reason
If we all agree SNB is most likely town, then we should lynch the Gov claim today.
If ms1 is Gov, he redirects lynch onto me, then ms1 probably NKd. We'll have 1 confirmed town by Lylo which is then 50/50
If ms1 agrees to redirect onto Jess or Ace, then we can win the game
Only if: 1. we all agree SNB is town 2. ms1 believes my VT claim
The problem now is ms1 thinks I'm scum for whatever reason
If we all agree SNB is most likely town, then we should lynch the Gov claim today.
If ms1 is Gov, he redirects lynch onto me, then ms1 probably NKd. We'll have 1 confirmed town by Lylo which is then 50/50
If ms1 agrees to redirect onto Jess or Ace, then we can win the game
Only if: 1. we all agree SNB is town 2. ms1 believes my VT claim
inb4 SNB + Zexion scum partners and SNB made the N2 kill
wat
sorry for not posting for days,i am busy with holiday and staff.
sorry for not posting for days,i am busy with holiday and staff.
ok,If you guy want to lynch SNB so bad
vote: Birdy
vote: Birdy
take your votes off SNB
If we agree that SNB is town, then by lynching the Gov claim, we can confirm THREE towns today (SNB, ms1, Zexion), AND get a reveal
If we agree that SNB is town, then by lynching the Gov claim, we can confirm THREE towns today (SNB, ms1, Zexion), AND get a reveal
even if SNB is scum, it's at best a 50/50 between the retarget onto Jess or Ace, if ms1 trusts me. This is still the best odds we have if we choose to lynch SNB today.
If ms1 is scum, or we hit scum between Jess and Ace, and we still have D4, then obviously the last scum is SNB
If ms1 is scum, or we hit scum between Jess and Ace, and we still have D4, then obviously the last scum is SNB
It's literally town's best play right now (to lynch Gov claim today)
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I think I can't redirect a lynch on myself
@Setsuen can you confirmmetal sonic1 wrote:
I think I can't redirect a lynch on myself
Topic Starter
I cannot answer that since I have already sort of answered the question before enough times.Frostings wrote:
@Setsuen can you confirm
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The only thing we know is Gov can override one lynch per game, into a NL or onto someone else, so I'm assuming that includes a lynch onto himself.
If we don't want to risk it, we can still follow our plan. Instead we lynch, say, SNB, and ms1 retargets onto whoever he thinks is best suitable. We'll still confirm 3 people town, as well as get a flip.
If ms1 doesn't retarget, he's scum (doubly verified by SNB's Oracle target flip). If SNB is scum and ms1 is town, then the odds are technically 50/50 if he targets Ace or Jess, which is the best odds we get if we don't follow the plan.
If SNB and ms1 are scum, we win
If SNB and Zexion are scum, we lose
If we don't want to risk it, we can still follow our plan. Instead we lynch, say, SNB, and ms1 retargets onto whoever he thinks is best suitable. We'll still confirm 3 people town, as well as get a flip.
If ms1 doesn't retarget, he's scum (doubly verified by SNB's Oracle target flip). If SNB is scum and ms1 is town, then the odds are technically 50/50 if he targets Ace or Jess, which is the best odds we get if we don't follow the plan.
If SNB and ms1 are scum, we win
If SNB and Zexion are scum, we lose
Here's an important note: If we lynch SNB and ms1 doesn't retarget, he has to be scum, regardless of whatever SNB flips, and regardless of who or what her Oracle target flips.
So ms1 has to agree to use his shot today, if we want to follow the plan
So ms1 has to agree to use his shot today, if we want to follow the plan
That was what I was planning to do anyway. But by making a retarget it was equal to claiming anyway. That's why I was so against the lynch in the first place.
As long as SNB + Zexion aren't scum, as far as I know, we'll win the game if you retarget onto Ace or Jess
If you decide to retarget onto me, it'll be 50/50. Whatever you decide to do, I won't put any blame onto your decision
So just pick whoever you feel is best
Regardless, this was actually a pretty interesting game, and I'm curious to see how it'll turn out
If you decide to retarget onto me, it'll be 50/50. Whatever you decide to do, I won't put any blame onto your decision
So just pick whoever you feel is best
Regardless, this was actually a pretty interesting game, and I'm curious to see how it'll turn out
no input needed, ms1 pierce the scum with your redirect
Vote: Birdy
Vote: Birdy
Vote: Birdy
Topic Starter
Wat
Vote Count 3.4
Frosting[1] metal sonic1,
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[3] Birdy , Ace Timing, Frosting,
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[2], Zexion, -[Jess]-
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Vote Count 3.4
Frosting[1] metal sonic1,
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[3] Birdy , Ace Timing, Frosting,
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[2], Zexion, -[Jess]-
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Hmmm hello, I'm back.
I'm terribly sorry for dissapearing. I was away from home and my internet suddenly went away. I just arrived tho so I can't read at the moment but I promise, for real this time, to catch up tomorrow. I see you guys already decided something so if you don't want to wait for me go ahead.
I'm really sorry x_X
I'm terribly sorry for dissapearing. I was away from home and my internet suddenly went away. I just arrived tho so I can't read at the moment but I promise, for real this time, to catch up tomorrow. I see you guys already decided something so if you don't want to wait for me go ahead.
I'm really sorry x_X
Stop making me doubt myself Setsuen!! I'm certain there is nothing we didn't look overSetsuen wrote:
Wat
Govern: Frostings
Vote: birdy
Vote: birdy
Topic Starter
Vote Count 3.5
Frosting[0]
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[LYNCH] Birdy , Ace Timing, Frosting, metal sonic1
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[2], Zexion, -[Jess]-
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Lynch Scene coming up
Frosting[0]
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[LYNCH] Birdy , Ace Timing, Frosting, metal sonic1
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[2], Zexion, -[Jess]-
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Lynch Scene coming up
Topic Starter
ok. my RNG indicator says to delete this file called Birdy
I don't remember having a file called Birdy anyway so DELETE!
Birdy the Oracle has been deleted!
WAT I have another virus deteoctor? Oh sh....
No memory space is left. Computer shutting down.
i feel like this happened before...........
metal sonic1 has been revealed as the Gramps!
It is now N3. N3 will end at 15/2 4PM (GMT +8)
I don't remember having a file called Birdy anyway so DELETE!
Birdy the Oracle has been deleted!
WAT I have another virus deteoctor? Oh sh....
No memory space is left. Computer shutting down.
i feel like this happened before...........
metal sonic1 has been revealed as the Gramps!
It is now N3. N3 will end at 15/2 4PM (GMT +8)
Forfeit game.
Topic Starter
Sudden computer turn on.
No virus detected.
Wot
metal sonic1 the Gramps has forfeited N3
i feel like this happened before.... in some other game.
No system file deleted.
HURRAY NOW I CAN PLAY OSU AGAIN.
Ace Timing the Villager has survived!
Frostings the Villager has survived!
Zexion the Villager has survived!
-[Jess]- the Villager has survived!
No virus detected.
Wot
metal sonic1 the Gramps has forfeited N3
i feel like this happened before.... in some other game.
No system file deleted.
HURRAY NOW I CAN PLAY OSU AGAIN.
Ace Timing the Villager has survived!
Frostings the Villager has survived!
Zexion the Villager has survived!
-[Jess]- the Villager has survived!
Called it.
Such a dead game but... gg?
Such a dead game but... gg?
lol
I'm the gov btw.
???
Lolz
Lolz
As I said in the dead QT, I balanced the orc as if it was a cop that needed to die to be useful, the N0 head start was probably a bad idea.
we got pretty lucky with lynching Batu first and him having selected one of the scum right away 
Also the one person in mind was legit ms1, but I think I forgot to mention itFrostings wrote:
Day1 "Most Town" reads list
Frostings -> Navizel
Navizel -> ms1
beeboy -> refuse, Ace
MB -> beeboy
Ace -> refuse
ms1 -> Navizel
Batu ->
SNB -> MB
Jess -> refuse
Zexion -> Frostings
This info might be useful for later
Also taking a look, I can see one person on this list who stands out, but I won't mention who it is until the time is right