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Camellia - Routing

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Shiirn
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Shiirn
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 6:50:44 PM

Artist: Camellia
Title: Routing
Source: beatmania IIDX
Tags: 23 copula 22 pendual super future 2323 professionalbox pishifat ongaku
BPM: 144
Filesize: 4461kb
Play Time: 01:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Comfort (7.4 stars, 621 notes)
  2. Extra (5.37 stars, 462 notes)
  3. Ongaku's Another (4.18 stars, 449 notes)
  4. pishi's Advanced (2.34 stars, 183 notes)
  5. ProBox's Beginner (1.59 stars, 112 notes)
  6. Shiirngaku's Hyper (3.1 stars, 298 notes)
Download: Camellia - Routing
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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「The birth of a melody, so vibrant and free,
her story untold, a shining smile unfolds,
comforting words from an innocent heart.
They say love just clicks into place...」


Bonus storyboard from an anonymous fan!
Last edited by Shiirn , edited 133 times in total.
Shiirn
2,896 posts
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Topic Starter
Shiirn
God Shiirn you've got a screw loose
Raiden
osu! Alumni
2,419 posts
Joined January 2013
Raiden

Shiirn wrote:

God Shiirn you've got a screw loose
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku
http://puu.sh/mqNyb/a84679937d.osu

Thanks for letting me GD m8y
Enon
Beatmap Nominator
2,693 posts
Joined November 2012
Enon
shiirn 7 stars map crazy
XII
259 posts
Joined November 2013
XII
I love this map, but some streams don't really fit or well their mapping sound is very vague.
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
I'll almost certainly be reworking the 1/8th streams and the offbeat ladder jumps.
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku
http://puu.sh/msvhe/cb4475248e.osu

Updated!

Changed some 1/8s and kept some 1/8s.
Also finished hitsound, but I'll have to double check tomorrow.
snz
877 posts
Joined February 2015
snz
(Japanese Post)
いくつかの7スターの歌、しかし、このことの難しすぎるShiirn ;w;
これはランクこれを起こっているのですか？
そして...私はこの一つのGDができますか？
strickluke
433 posts
Joined March 2015
strickluke

Raiden wrote:

Shiirn wrote:

God Shiirn you've got a screw loose
snz
877 posts
Joined February 2015
snz

Shiirn wrote:

God Shiirn you've got a screw loose
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
Only GD slot open is an Easy. If you're willing to submit to my requirements for guest difficulties, by all means.
Len
Beatmap Nominator
2,813 posts
Joined June 2012
Len
nice map
snz
877 posts
Joined February 2015
snz
Azer Failed This :o
KennyGlenn
23 posts
Joined September 2012
KennyGlenn
beatmania IIDX is the real deal <3
Ambient
579 posts
Joined August 2013
Ambient
feelsgoodman
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
Discomfort is not going for ranking, do not mod it or even look at it
Josde
26 posts
Joined July 2013
Josde
I guess you've already noticed but the ArtistUnicode for Ongaku's Insane is completely fucked.
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
I have noticed, i'll fix it when i'm not super lazy, but thank you for reminding me. that post will remind me until i do it. hah
quiz-chan_DELETED
quiz-chan_DELETED
Interesting map design, I must say!
ProfessionalBox
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
771 posts
Joined September 2013
ProfessionalBox
yo o/

Easy
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Title:Routing
TitleUnicode:Routing
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Shiirn
Version:ProBox's Easy
Source:beatmania IIDX
Tags:23 copula 22 pendual super future 2323 ongaku
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Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

Josde wrote:

I guess you've already noticed but the ArtistUnicode for Ongaku's Insane is completely fucked.
Its not the artist unicodes thats fucked up



its me
StoryTime
21 posts
Joined September 2012
StoryTime
If I had to describe Comfort, I'd say it's Kreygasm

If i had to describe Ongaku's Insane, I'd say it's Kreygasm

Worthless input from 5-digit trash

Luv u shiirn <3
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

StoryTime wrote:

If I had to describe Comfort, I'd say it's Kreygasm

If i had to describe Ongaku's Insane, I'd say it's Kreygasm

Worthless input from 5-digit trash

Luv u shiirn <3
its k u bettr than me <3
Kinshara
823 posts
Joined November 2013
Kinshara
9 star map

shiirn the god
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
8-)
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn

MMzz wrote:

8-)
8-)
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

Shiirn wrote:

MMzz wrote:

8-)
8-)
8-)
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
aaaand now we're pending


let's start this roller coaster
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

Shiirn wrote:

aaaand now we're pending


let's start this roller coaster
time to prepare my anus
Juris
46 posts
Joined December 2014
Juris
Comfort

00:14:456 (2) -
00:13:207 (4) -
Both above beats I feel break the flow of the map a little, try moving them closer but not break the design

00:27:686 (7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - this entire section goes to wrong beats mostly.
Breakdown: 00:27:686 (7,8) - there is meant to be a beat after 7 and after 8 (listen to the song in 25%)
00:27:895 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - here doesnt really have any beats as it fades out so much that they are barely audible or not there at all, needless section, except for maybe the first slider. Im not talking about the slider after the stacked notes.

01:06:124 (1) - I dont like this placement :S I suggest putting it close to the slider 01:05:707 (2) - so that the jumps are all the same distance. I'd say this would improve flow.

01:20:915 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ew I hate these PP jumps ;_;

01:22:895 (1,2,1,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwww more pp jumps

01:30:811 (4) - i'd place this closer to the end of the slider its next to because I think it breaks flow a bit

01:31:332 (3) - this slider isn't mapped to beats as the beat represented 01:31:124 (2) - is held

01:31:853 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this section here breaks flow
Rixia Mao
53 posts
Joined September 2013
Rixia Mao


it is indeed very hard but at the same time very enjoyable, not like some unplayable 7.5*+ BS
gj Shiirn and gl for rank!
ConsumerOfBean
443 posts
Joined April 2015
ConsumerOfBean
quick mod from 5digit trash
(note: this mod is shit)
normal
00:21:645 (1) - what rhythm is this mapped to? doesn't sound like anything to me.
01:09:978 (1) - 4 beats of reaction time? i don't think normals need that much...
hard
in general, this diff would benefit design-wise and play-wise with a lower cs, like maybe 3.5 or 3.7.
00:10:707 (4,1) - this is not very good when the ar is slow, like it is since it's a hard. it is very frustrating for players.
00:27:895 (2,3) - the 1/4 transition is a bit much for a hard, but then again, the cs is 3.3.
01:20:395 (2) - maybe make the slider 1/2 and add a note on the blue tick?
01:22:061 (2) - ^
insane
amazing. great job ongaku!
Can't mod the rest since i can barely play them. Good luck with rank.
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
Minx

Minx wrote:

Comfort

00:14:456 (2) -
00:13:207 (4) -
Both above beats I feel break the flow of the map a little, try moving them closer but not break the design as it is right now moving the notes a handful of pixels in any direction isn't going to chance the kind of "flow" it has, but i'll fiddle around with it over time

00:27:686 (7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - this entire section goes to wrong beats mostly.
Breakdown: 00:27:686 (7,8) - there is meant to be a beat after 7 and after 8 (listen to the song in 25%)
00:27:895 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - here doesnt really have any beats as it fades out so much that they are barely audible or not there at all, needless section, except for maybe the first slider. Im not talking about the slider after the stacked notes. I am fully aware of what the song precisely does here but it is pretty hard to figure out exactly what to do that also plays well. again, more fiddling required

01:06:124 (1) - I dont like this placement :S I suggest putting it close to the slider 01:05:707 (2) - so that the jumps are all the same distance. I'd say this would improve flow.

01:20:915 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ew I hate these PP jumps ;_;

01:22:895 (1,2,1,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwww more pp jumps An offbeat ladder section blah blah discussed on irc

01:30:811 (4) - i'd place this closer to the end of the slider its next to because I think it breaks flow a bit

01:31:332 (3) - this slider isn't mapped to beats as the beat represented 01:31:124 (2) - is held

01:31:853 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this section here breaks flow
most discussed on irc

In the future try to be a bit more descriptive as to what you mean by "flow", especially when modding a map that needs experienced input. Thanks for your time!

Failure

FailureAtOsu wrote:

quick mod from 5digit trash
(note: this mod is shit)
normal
00:21:645 (1) - what rhythm is this mapped to? doesn't sound like anything to me. There is a psuedo-vocal that allows a normal-level player to just follow the beat.
01:09:978 (1) - 4 beats of reaction time? i don't think normals need that much...

hard
in general, this diff would benefit design-wise and play-wise with a lower cs, like maybe 3.5 or 3.7.
00:10:707 (4,1) - this is not very good when the ar is slow, like it is since it's a hard. it is very frustrating for players I figure the change in combo color tells enough about the pattern that they know that it's not a normal swap.
00:27:895 (2,3) - the 1/4 transition is a bit much for a hard, but then again, the cs is 3.3 144bpm is extremely easy to slider-circle-slider 1/2-1/4-1/2 pattern with. sliders are lenient enough both in the area they allow the cursor to be and timing to let this be quite fun for a Hard level player.
01:20:395 (2) - maybe make the slider 1/2 and add a note on the blue tick?
01:22:061 (2) - ^

insane=amazing. great job ongaku!
Can't mod the rest since i can barely play them. Good luck with rank.
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

FailureAtOsu wrote:

quick mod from 5digit trash
01:20:395 (2) - maybe make the slider 1/2 and add a note on the blue tick? would make it a bit too hard, since its stacking. if the issue persists, i'll change it
01:22:061 (2) - ^ ^
Intone
66 posts
Joined August 2014
Intone
FINISHED MODDING :D

hi I'm only going to mod the 2 4-5* because I can't play 7*+ so I donn't want to give poor advice.

Extra
00:05:814 (3,4) touching pls fix for aesthetics
00:10:1109 (8,1) spacing makes the beats confusing. I'd recommennd just stacking the 1 on 2 if you do want the 8 in that area.
00:22:374 (3,4) hmmm this jjump is pretty sudden. I would consider moving the 4 or ctrl g the 3
00:37:061 (1,1) waooo you might want to take off NC on one of these
00:50:968 (3) you probably might want to curve this right instead of left. for flow?
00:59:770 (7) I think someone ranted about this kind of pattern on forums. It's really hiddenn and hard to see, please consider changing ;o

Onngaku's Insane
wow I love the sliders and how you use the slider velocities. Great job here, I applaud you :D
however, I'm not sure how comfortable I feel about the use of short overlapping streams. I thinnk this is too difficult for this player level at 4.19--consider channging it or making the streams closer together.
The spaced streams too^. I think this is way too hard of a pattern for low 4* players. I can play up to 5.5* and I still can't do spaced streams XD.
01:21:540 (1) weirdly formed slider here. Try flipping to curve other way>?
01:34:145 (8) being a little nitpicky here but theyre touching :O (8 + 9)
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

Intone wrote:

Onngaku's Insane
wow I love the sliders and how you use the slider velocities. Great job here, I applaud you :D
however, I'm not sure how comfortable I feel about the use of short overlapping streams. I thinnk this is too difficult for this player level at 4.19--consider channging it or making the streams closer together.
The spaced streams too^. I think this is way too hard of a pattern for low 4* players. I can play up to 5.5* and I still can't do spaced streams XD.
01:21:540 (1) weirdly formed slider here. Try flipping to curve other way>? applied~
01:34:145 (8) being a little nitpicky here but theyre touching :O (8 + 9) saem m8. dw i fixed it
Thanks for your feed back!
ProfessionalBox
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
771 posts
Joined September 2013
ProfessionalBox
Added a slider after a spinner since it's a normal now

normal
osu file format v14

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Title:Routing
TitleUnicode:Routing
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Shiirn
Version:ProBox's Normal
Source:beatmania IIDX
Tags:23 copula 22 pendual super future 2323 professionalbox ongaku
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-Atri-
3,049 posts
Joined March 2013
-Atri-
AIUEOKAKIKUKEKOSASHISUSESO



[Ongaku's Insane]
  1. 00:35:533 (2) - This slider is snapped 1/3 but the end is snapped on.... nothing
  2. 01:32:478 (2) - Intentional to not stack with 01:31:540 (8) - ?
    Good diff

[Extra]
  1. 00:04:978 (1) -

    Better merging by curving 00:04:041 (5) - plz
    What i meant
  2. 00:05:395 (1,2,3,4) - I have no idea why you increase the spacing here, They're the same sound as 00:02:061 (2,3,4,5) - and 00:03:728 (2,3,4,5) - , and no stronger sound can be find there.
  3. 00:16:020 (1,1,2,3) - srsly, i have no idea what you're doing here, but i am pretty sure this is uncomfortable to play if you switch a linear flow to a sharp angle so suddenly, yet didn't flow well
  4. 00:16:436 (2,3) - Is this intentional to not stack?
  5. 00:16:853 (1,1,2) - Flows weird imo, especially 00:17:165 (1,2) -
  6. 00:24:561 (4) - Place there for better flow:
  7. 00:36:228 (7) -

    This.
    You can turn them into this:
    or this
  8. 01:21:020 (5,6,1,2,1,2) - Creative, But i saw it some people hatred to playing this because of difficulty spikes
  9. 01:42:895 (1,2) - Is this intentional to not stack?
  10. 01:47:895 (1) - I think it's better to do more parallel
    I think about like that, not a perfect one

Iine

Sorry for hard to read screenshots

GL~
-GriM-
181 posts
Joined February 2015
-GriM-
no kudosu just a suggestion

Comfort's hp should probaly be nerfed to 6 or something, since the map is insanely hard
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

KuranteMelodii wrote:

[Ongaku's Insane]
  1. 00:35:533 (2) - This slider is snapped 1/3 but the end is snapped on.... nothing dont know what happened there. good catch
  2. 01:32:478 (2) - Intentional to not stack with 01:31:540 (8) - ? inte ntional
    Good diff
Thankies!
lilynya
84 posts
Joined May 2015
lilynya
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MoodyRPG
2,754 posts
Joined August 2010
MoodyRPG
General
  1. ok
ProBox's Normal
  1. 00:21:645 (1) - Hmm, I feel an important note here in this part, try this rhythm
  2. 01:14:561 (1) - Are you sure about this new combo? The music doesn't change too much imo
Collab Hard
  1. 00:07:478 - Add a note here?
  2. 01:38:728 (5) - New combo?
Ongaku's Insane
  1. Crazy diff o/
Extra
  1. 01:39:874 (2) - New combo too like the others sliders?
Good luck
ac8129464363
1,566 posts
Joined October 2013
ac8129464363
good job ongaku :d
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

deetz wrote:

good job ongaku :d
Thanks <3
Thank Shiirn for guiding me
lilynya
84 posts
Joined May 2015
lilynya
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Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
He's my little mapping protege


gonna teach him all da tricks before i die
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

Shiirn wrote:

He's my little mapping protege


gonna teach him all da tricks before i die
he's my special sensei
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
It's crazy to think that we're both considered pre-2012 mappers

but while you make maps that people are like "omfg so crazy" I'm making maps that people just kinda fall asleep over lol.

cum:
00:11:645 (1) - Would be cool to rotatoe this to the left so there's no overlap. Aesthetics and all.
00:13:936 (1) - drumhitclap here?
00:14:456 (2) - drumhitfinish???
00:36:228 (7) - Why is this spacing smaller here even though the impact of the beat is still the same as the other previous beats?
01:25:395 (1,2,3,4,5) - hitsounds pls? There's a lot of hitwhistles that really wanna be here.

I literally can't say much about this because it's literally past my level of comprehension in terms of difficulty, but I can tell that it's not shit, and is relevant to the song.

sextra:
just apply my hitsounding mods to this diff too
00:25:395 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Like it's nice and the music is kinda repeating but I'd love to have some sort of like something going here to make it not look lazy. Like maybe rotate it or something?
00:27:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,1,1) - fallin asleep tbh
01:06:645 - did u just like forget the finishes

ongaku:
00:04:665 (6,7,8) - like cool but like there's nothing definitive in the music that really give this any validity. While it could be good ornamentation, the style of mapping you have makes me only want to tap when a definitive beat exists, not when there's ornamentation.
00:57:374 (1) - please do not do this. Like it's cool in theory but in readability it's like a huge no no
01:13:311 - Would be cool if you did something similar to the above 2 diffs where you had a bass drum beat keeping the pulse of the map.

hard:
01:04:978 (1) - like it's fine but it's not consistent with the rest of the map, which kinda sucks. Plus, having so many spinners in a row (talking about the two after this one) is kinda blehh
01:37:478 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - more interesting shapes pls tbh

normie:
This diff spread is WAY too large. You NEED another difficulty in between this and hard.
Everything else in the diff is fine though

Nice stuff. Only major concern I have is diff spread between hard and normal
I Love Maki
14 posts
Joined November 2012
I Love Maki
THE GOD OF MAPPING RETURNS TO MAP THE BEST SONG ON IIDX
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

Reditum wrote:

ongaku:
00:04:665 (6,7,8) - like cool but like there's nothing definitive in the music that really give this any validity. While it could be good ornamentation, the style of mapping you have makes me only want to tap when a definitive beat exists, not when there's ornamentation. even if there isnt a very strong beat there to map, I find that it fits willingly and is better than a wubbly slider
00:57:374 (1) - please do not do this. Like it's cool in theory but in readability it's like a huge no no changed
01:13:311 - Would be cool if you did something similar to the above 2 diffs where you had a bass drum beat keeping the pulse of the map. applied
thanks for the input!

EDIT: Also applied the Hard
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Yuzeyun
7,622 posts
Joined September 2010
Yuzeyun
i looked at the 9-star map

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Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku

_Gezo_ wrote:

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lilynya
84 posts
Joined May 2015
lilynya
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Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Topic Starter
Shiirn
if only you


also mission accomplished if 9* gives you cancer
RikiH_
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RikiH_
m4m time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

General

  1. Extra: 5,31 stars / Comfort: 7,69 stars. Of course you need at least an inbetween diff, or even two, depends on the spread
  2. Not 100% sure about 1,59 and 3,09 between Normal and Hard
DO NOT MOD THIS

  1. This should be made illegal
Comfort

  1. I can't even play this diff by myself, so my mod here won't be exactly good, I will only point out structural mistakes, sorry
  2. 00:04:874 (3,4) - Improve this blanket, it's not really good
  3. 00:08:311 (1,4) - Weird overlap
  4. 00:09:040 (5,6) - This blanket is bad too, make it similar to that (4,5) blanket, that one is perfect
  5. 00:11:228 (1,1) - Weird overlap
  6. 00:35:533 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Idk, this looks so random... Try to make some regular shape
  7. 00:56:436 (5,1) - Uh, I'm not sure about the flow here, when you start the big round slider, you have to change the direction suddently, ctrl+g-ing the (1) would fix it, but would destroy the following pattern, so a better way to fix it in my opinion is moving the (5) somewhere to the right of the big slider, so it won't destroy the flow
  8. 01:45:395 (1,4) - Weird overlap, make a better square
  9. 01:53:103 (3,4) - In order to make it look better: move 3 to 65|75, move 4 to 313|233
  10. This diff is out of my league, rip
Extra

  1. 00:05:603 (3,4) - I don't like the way these elements overlap, quite unconfortable to see
  2. 00:12:895 (1,2,3,4) - I know you want to emphasize this part, but this is too sudden in my opinion, and you will break the combo in 90% of cases
  3. 00:27:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is the spacing in this stream completely random?
  4. 00:32:686 (1,2,3,4) - This is not well-blanketed with the slider, you should try to make it more round to fit it
  5. 00:36:228 (7) - Doesn't look really good, it's like a 2009/2010 slider lol
  6. 00:59:561 (6,1) - Not good, they overlap
  7. 01:16:645 (1) - This needs a ctrl+g, or it will break the flow
  8. 01:21:020 (5,6,1,2,1,2) - No please, don't, this is a huge difficulty spike, compared to the rest of the map, I think you should really change it. People will get here, break their combo and rage a lot
  9. 01:47:582 (4,1) - Too close each other
  10. 01:52:895 (1,2,3,4) - Similar to 00:12:895 (1,2,3,4) -
  11. I can't find huge mistakes here, don't hate me but honestly I don't like this map, because: First, the patterns look a bit random, it looks like there's not a structure in them, since there are lots of spacing changes which are completely random. (eg 00:23:520 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ) Second: The flow is weird in some parts, you have to reverse your hand while playing, or change direction in a weird way. (eg 00:46:332 (1,2,1) ) Last, some blankets are not really well made, and some sliders have weird shapes. (eg the ones I pointed out). I can't play Comfort diff, but it looks like something very similar happened there...
Ongaku's Insane

  1. AR 9,3 on Insane diff? Not sure about it, you should decrease it until 8,8-9,0. It still plays well
  2. 00:02:061 (2,3) - Weird overlap
  3. 00:03:520 (1,1) - ^
  4. 00:27:790 (4) - Prev: 0.71x / Next: 0.56x - This is weird
  5. 00:28:520 (2) - Move to 311|232 for a more regular pattern
  6. 00:41:436 (1,1,1,1) - Sorry if I get too nazi, but if you look closely you can notice that these sliders are not spaced equally, the gap between them is not the same everywhere
  7. 00:46:332 (1) - Weird overlap again, you can try to move this to 374|195 for example
  8. 00:47:895 (1) - Add a clap here?
  9. Nothing else, this one looks good and personally is my favourite diff
Collab Hard

  1. 00:10:395 (3) - Maybe try to move the slidertail some pixels up, because having straight sliders like this is not really cool imo
  2. 00:29:978 (1) - Move slidertail to 105|330, so the blanket is perfect
  3. 00:37:895 (2,3) - Bad blanket again
  4. 00:53:311 (1,2,1,2) - Again ^
  5. 01:56:645 - You forgot to silence the spinner here
  6. This diff is good, but please, those blankets, pay more attention...
ProBox's Normal

  1. Generally speaking, I think 1/2 distance between the last note and a spinner is not ok, since this is the easiest diff of the set. Try 1/1 distance instead
  2. 00:36:645 (3) - Uhmmm, this can be confusing because there is a huge beat 1/4 earlier... Maybe you can try to replace the previous note and this with a slider who ends in 00:36:540 -
  3. 00:37:061 - Add a note here?
  4. 01:39:978 - It looks weird here because the slider ends on nothing. The strong beat is 1/4 earlier, you caould try something else to fix it maybe?
  5. 01:53:311 (1) - Similar to 00:36:645 (3) - This song is silly lol
  6. 01:56:645 - Silence spinner end?
That's all guys, good luck with this set :)
Shiirn
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Riki

RikiH_ wrote:

m4m time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

General

  1. Extra: 5,31 stars / Comfort: 7,69 stars. Of course you need at least an inbetween diff, or even two, depends on the spread
  2. Not 100% sure about 1,59 and 3,09 between Normal and Hard
I am so god damn mad about all the spread comments I'm getting on this map. It's ridiculously hard to make a diff between Normal and Hard, and between Extra and Comfort, without it being utterly shit. If someone wants to try, give it a damn shot.

DO NOT MOD THIS

  1. This should be made illegal
Comfort

  1. I can't even play this diff by myself, so my mod here won't be exactly good, I will only point out structural mistakes, sorry
  2. 00:04:874 (3,4) - Improve this blanket, it's not really good
  3. 00:08:311 (1,4) - Weird overlap Going to have to deal with it.
  4. 00:09:040 (5,6) - This blanket is bad too, make it similar to that (4,5) blanket, that one is perfect
  5. 00:11:228 (1,1) - Weird overlap
  6. 00:35:533 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Idk, this looks so random... Try to make some regular shape It's meant to be random. The music sounds semi-random at this point so I used a semi-random pattern.
  7. 00:56:436 (5,1) - Uh, I'm not sure about the flow here, when you start the big round slider, you have to change the direction suddently, ctrl+g-ing the (1) would fix it, but would destroy the following pattern, so a better way to fix it in my opinion is moving the (5) somewhere to the right of the big slider, so it won't destroy the flow Uh, no. Why do people forget how sliders work? You follow a very, very, very large area around the sliderball, not the sliderball or track itself. You can do pretty much the entire circular-slider combo without straying very far from the center of the field.
  8. 01:45:395 (1,4) - Weird overlap, make a better square Not meant to be a square
  9. 01:53:103 (3,4) - In order to make it look better: move 3 to 65|75, move 4 to 313|233 moved a bit but i'm not making it a perfect cross.
  10. This diff is out of my league, rip
Extra

  1. 00:05:603 (3,4) - I don't like the way these elements overlap, quite unconfortable to see
  2. 00:12:895 (1,2,3,4) - I know you want to emphasize this part, but this is too sudden in my opinion, and you will break the combo in 90% of cases I've seen very little breaking done here.
  3. 00:27:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is the spacing in this stream completely random? This is one of those decelerating streams. It's not random, and since it's only 144 1/4, quite readable.
  4. 00:32:686 (1,2,3,4) - This is not well-blanketed with the slider, you should try to make it more round to fit it
  5. 00:36:228 (7) - Doesn't look really good, it's like a 2009/2010 slider lol lol maybe it's intended to be a bit weird looking since the music there is weird lol
  6. 00:59:561 (6,1) - Not good, they overlap
  7. 01:16:645 (1) - This needs a ctrl+g, or it will break the flow
  8. 01:21:020 (5,6,1,2,1,2) - No please, don't, this is a huge difficulty spike, compared to the rest of the map, I think you should really change it. People will get here, break their combo and rage a lot
  9. 01:47:582 (4,1) - Too close each other
  10. 01:52:895 (1,2,3,4) - Similar to 00:12:895 (1,2,3,4) -
  11. I can't find huge mistakes here, don't hate me but honestly I don't like this map, because: First, the patterns look a bit random, it looks like there's not a structure in them, since there are lots of spacing changes which are completely random. (eg 00:23:520 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ) Second: The flow is weird in some parts, you have to reverse your hand while playing, or change direction in a weird way. (eg 00:46:332 (1,2,1) ) Last, some blankets are not really well made, and some sliders have weird shapes. (eg the ones I pointed out). I can't play Comfort diff, but it looks like something very similar happened there...
Collab Hard

  1. 00:10:395 (3) - Maybe try to move the slidertail some pixels up, because having straight sliders like this is not really cool imoIs there something wrong with straight sliders now?
  2. 00:29:978 (1) - Move slidertail to 105|330, so the blanket is perfect
  3. 00:37:895 (2,3) - Bad blanket again
  4. 00:53:311 (1,2,1,2) - Again ^
  5. 01:56:645 - You forgot to silence the spinner here The spinner isn't silenced in ANY difficulty, what are you talking about?
  6. This diff is good, but please, those blankets, pay more attention... Right....


That's all guys, good luck with this set :)

All in all, you seem to mistake what the map is trying to do here. The music itself is nearly random in its emphasis and intensity, some parts being almost downright unpredictable. The only useful bits were the actual structural errors (blankets, etc), commentary on how the map was built was rather lackluster as you looked at it from your perspective and not mine, ongaku's, or probox's. Modding is harder than it looks. Might want to work on the overall tone of the mod, as even if you don't like the map you should still be at least neutral about it.

Thank you for your time.
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Yuzeyun
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i died for that sin actually
ProfessionalBox
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RikiH_ wrote:

Generally speaking, I think 1/2 distance between the last note and a spinner is not ok, since this is the easiest diff of the set. Try 1/1 distance instead I think this is fine and in case it's a problem in the eyes of a BN it's easy to fix but we'll see
00:36:645 (3) - Uhmmm, this can be confusing because there is a huge beat 1/4 earlier... Maybe you can try to replace the previous note and this with a slider who ends in 00:36:540 - Did this, lets see what happens lol
00:37:061 - Add a note here? Since I replaced the last note with the slider I have to ignore this beat in order to make the next beat easier to hit on time
01:39:978 - It looks weird here because the slider ends on nothing. The strong beat is 1/4 earlier, you caould try something else to fix it maybe? Weird song, weird sliders. This part is something else and unless I get a suggestion from somebody on how to map this part to fit the easy/normal category I won't be touching it.
01:53:311 (1) - Similar to 00:36:645 (3) - This song is silly lol IKR. Same here.
01:56:645 - Silence spinner end? Sure
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Ongaku
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Joined January 2014
Ongaku

RikiH_ wrote:

Ongaku's Insane

  1. AR 9,3 on Insane diff? Not sure about it, you should decrease it until 8,8-9,0. It still plays well Oops, this diff was originally intended to be an extra. guess I forgot about the ar xd
  2. 00:02:061 (2,3) - Weird overlap fixed
  3. 00:03:520 (1,1) - ^ fixed
  4. 00:27:790 (4) - Prev: 0.71x / Next: 0.56x - This is weird whoops
  5. 00:28:520 (2) - Move to 311|232 for a more regular pattern applied
  6. 00:41:436 (1,1,1,1) - Sorry if I get too nazi, but if you look closely you can notice that these sliders are not spaced equally, the gap between them is not the same everywhere its fine, applied
  7. 00:46:332 (1) - Weird overlap again, you can try to move this to 374|195 for example fixed
  8. 00:47:895 (1) - Add a clap here? applied
  9. Nothing else, this one looks good and personally is my favourite diff
Thanks for the mod!

Ongaku's Insane : http://pastebin.com/3rDBe9r5
RikiH_
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Joined February 2011
RikiH_
Wow Shiirn, you are so rude. I just said I don't like the map (and explained why pretty well imo), I'm not insulting you or whatever. Please calm down, or next time I won't even mod it, seriously. Sorry if I sounded rude, it was not my intention. I can't just spam happy smiles to make you understand I'm not rude.

I'm modding your map accordingly to 2016 ranking criteria, and some kind of patterns are not acceptable anymore, and you could create something better. This is the point of my mod. You should be more open to critics. And again, this is a constructive critic, not an insult. I feel sorry because it sounded like I was laighing at your set, but it's not true.

Also, remember that english is not my main language, so sometimes I may sound rude because I don't know any "kind synonims" for some words.

Peace.
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