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sana - Kotoba no Iranai Yakusoku (TV size)

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Almie
34 posts
Joined June 2014
Almie
Timing
Woah, your timing section seems like kind of a mess. I dont claim to be an expert on timing, but I tried deleting all uninherited timing sections and left just one with 170BPM and 1060 offset and listened to it multiple times on multiple speeds and it seems to be in sync.

Rocket's Easy
General - very nice map, I especially love the blankets everywhere.
00:15:206 (1) - perhaps rotate this slider so it blankets 00:16:265 (2) ?
01:03:197 (1) - you could end this slider at 01:03:549 and add a circle at 01:03:902
01:04:255 (2,3) - i would switch the position of these 2 circles
01:10:961 (1,2) - spacing between these 2 sliders seems too big for easy

Normal
00:16:442 - something is missing here. Either extend the previous slider to end at this point or add a circle
00:16:795 (4,5,6) - not sure if this is appropriate for a normal difficulty, i would probably simplify it
00:18:736 (2) - why not end this slider on a white tick?
00:20:147 (5) - ^ same
00:20:853 - suggestion:
SPOILER
00:27:721 (2) - always try to get a nice teardrop shaped opening in the middle of these kind of sliders:

I realize this makes the slider longer, but you can always change the velocity to make it end where you want it to.
00:47:318 - add something in this empty space, even a single circle would do
00:52:979 (3) - i suggest making this a reverse and Ctrl+G
01:13:079 (3,4,5,6) - again, i would simplify this, or maybe change it to circles

Insane
00:01:060 - 00:11:302 - I see you mapped to the piano here, but in the song the singing is much more prominent, and when the strings are introduced at 00:07:081 the piano gets almost inaudible, so Im not sure if mapping to it is the best choice here.
00:39:907 (1,2,3) - Quite a big jump at this point, would be okay later in the song when its more intense, but I would make it smaller here.
00:56:143 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These jumps are quite difficult considering this part of the song isnt very intense :P
01:19:785 (1) - Why a new combo?

In general, nice mapset, there wasnt much wrong with it to point out, I hope to see this in ranked soon :)
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

Almaironn wrote:

Timing
Woah, your timing section seems like kind of a mess. I dont claim to be an expert on timing, but I tried deleting all uninherited timing sections and left just one with 170BPM and 1060 offset and listened to it multiple times on multiple speeds and it seems to be in sync.
See monstrata's mapset of the same song.


Normal
00:16:442 - something is missing here. Either extend the previous slider to end at this point or add a circle - Whops, fixed :)
00:16:795 (4,5,6) - not sure if this is appropriate for a normal difficulty, i would probably simplify it - Don't know how to simplify this more without ignoring the rhythm of the drums :/
00:18:736 (2) - why not end this slider on a white tick? - The rhythm is both on the blue and white tick, I'm trying to change the 1/1 rhythm a bit by ending the slider on the sound on the blue tick. It still shouldn't effect the player too much since the sliders and notes still begin on white ticks.
00:20:147 (5) - ^ same
00:20:853 - suggestion:
SPOILER
00:27:721 (2) - always try to get a nice teardrop shaped opening in the middle of these kind of sliders:

I realize this makes the slider longer, but you can always change the velocity to make it end where you want it to. True about the teardrop thing, the slider wasn't working for me so I deleted it and made a different type of slider (wave-like)
00:47:318 - add something in this empty space, even a single circle would do
00:52:979 (3) - i suggest making this a reverse and Ctrl+G Then it wouldn't follow the drum rhythm
01:13:079 (3,4,5,6) - again, i would simplify this, or maybe change it to circles - Same reason as before, but this time it's really important that I follow the rhythm, this is the most clear 1/2 (actually 1/4) rhythm in the song. It demands to be emphasized somehow.

Insane
00:01:060 - 00:11:302 - I see you mapped to the piano here, but in the song the singing is much more prominent, and when the strings are introduced at 00:07:081 the piano gets almost inaudible, so Im not sure if mapping to it is the best choice here. Yeah, I guess you're right, I'll re-map that part then
00:39:907 (1,2,3) - Quite a big jump at this point, would be okay later in the song when its more intense, but I would make it smaller here. Since it flows really well (imo) it's fitting in difficulty, this is the 2nd most difficult part of the song where Kiai time has a more difficult jump. Improved the flow on the other jumps in that part and also decreased the DS for the other jumps a bit.
00:56:143 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These jumps are quite difficult considering this part of the song isnt very intense :P Yupp, agree, decreased DS from 2x to 1.4x and changed the pattern, thank you :)
01:19:785 (1) - Why a new combo? Because of the strong finish sound and to show that it's part of the 2 part jump (1,1)

In general, nice mapset, there wasnt much wrong with it to point out, I hope to see this in ranked soon :)
Thank you for the mod :D
Last edited by PurpleHawk , edited 4 times in total.
HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88

Almaironn wrote:

Rocket's Easy
General - very nice map, I especially love the blankets everywhere. Thanks
00:15:206 (1) - perhaps rotate this slider so it blankets 00:16:265 (2) ? I wasn't trying to make blanket with that. I just managed a symmetric pattern with the above slider
01:03:197 (1) - you could end this slider at 01:03:549 and add a circle at 01:03:902 It might work but the recovery time will be unrankable.
01:04:255 (2,3) - i would switch the position of these 2 circles Nice suggestion.
01:10:961 (1,2) - spacing between these 2 sliders seems too big for easy I think the space it's fine. ><
Thanks a bunch for your mod!

I am a Naruto
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UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik
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PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

UltraRik wrote:

Soft remap
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Nice :D The reason your diff is updateable on your client is because I changed an unsnapped slider to the blue tick that I'm 99% sure you intended it to be on :) I'll start asking for mods for your diff :)
Last edited by PurpleHawk , edited 1 time in total.
DeletedUser_4329079
DeletedUser_4329079
Hello!

[Normal]

  • 00:08:480 (1) - Edit the slider so (2) fits beter in the curve for aesthetics
    00:22:794 (2,3,4) - I'd remap this part into something easier to read
    00:27:545 (1,2) - Stacking them would be better imo
    00:44:848 (4) - This slider ends too close to the top of the map when compared to the next note
    01:27:905 (3,4,5) - (4) and (5) are more spaced than (3) and (4), you should use a polygonal shape there

[Insane]

  • 00:13:795 (9,1) - This abrupt spacing change is hard to read and breaks the flow of the map
    00:15:206 (8,1) - Again, spacing changes too much
    00:39:907 (1,2) - Excessive spacing, a jump fits there but that's just too much
[UltraRik's Insane]

  • 00:01:060 (1,2) - Stack
    00:24:545 (1,2,3,4,1) - Stack (4) with the slider and maybe remap the jump, I don't think the spacing should change there
    00:33:545 (2,3) - Move (3) further away from (2)
    00:37:436 (1) - Remove NC
    00:38:142 (1) - Remove NC
    00:38:495 (1,2) - Remove NC frrom (1) and add NC to (2)
    00:39:024 (1) - Remove NC
    01:02:484 (1,2) - Reduce spacing
    01:10:344 (7,8) - Remove this triple and move it to 01:10:785 - It sounds a million times better
    01:24:373 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - WTF, reduce spacing here or remap the whole stream (I'd rather remap it), this is so unexpected
That's it! I hope it's helpful.
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

Default wrote:

Hello!

Normal
  • 00:08:480 (1) - Edit the slider so (2) fits beter in the curve for aesthetics Nice, done
    00:22:794 (2,3,4) - I'd remap this part into something easier to read Not sure how this is hard to read?
    00:27:545 (1,2) - Stacking them would be better imo I would prefer not to stack, think it makes it more difficult to read
    00:44:848 (4) - This slider ends too close to the top of the map when compared to the next note Yupp, changed that slider and the pattern before/after slightly downwards
    01:27:905 (3,4,5) -(4) and (5) are more spaced than (3) and (4), you should use a polygonal shape there Not sure what you mean by polygonal shape, but I fixed the spacing


Insane
  • 00:13:795 (9,1) - This abrupt spacing change is hard to read and breaks the flow of the map Agree, re-mapped a lot of that part of the map, less aggresive jumps and changed several single notes to sliders to improve playability. Tried to improve readability by having every strong finish hitnote at the start of a NC slider.
    00:15:206 (8,1) - Again, spacing changes too much
    00:39:907 (1,2) - Excessive spacing, a jump fits there but that's just too much Ehm, this has been pointed out before so I may have to change it, but I feel like this jump flows really well, so I'll be keeping it for now, if I get another person specifically pointing it out I'll change it.

That's it! I hope it's helpful. Yes it was, thank you :D
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik

Default wrote:

[UltraRik's Insane]
First of all, since this is a remap, I expected a lot of complaints and errors ^^'

  • 00:01:060 (1,2) - Stack Sure!
    00:24:545 (1,2,3,4,1) - Stack (4) with the slider and maybe remap the jump, I don't think the spacing should change there Hmm done
    00:33:545 (2,3) - Move (3) further away from (2) Done
    00:37:436 (1) - Remove NC Ok
    00:38:142 (1) - Remove NC Ok
    00:38:495 (1,2) - Remove NC frrom (1) and add NC to (2) Ok
    00:39:024 (1) - Remove NC Ok
    01:02:484 (1,2) - Reduce spacing I did more than that
    01:10:344 (7,8) - Remove this triple and move it to 01:10:785 - It sounds a million times better Oh lol I agree, my triples are always rubbish
    01:24:373 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - WTF, reduce spacing here or remap the whole stream (I'd rather remap it), this is so unexpected Honestly, I expected people to bash on the kiai time stream more, since the ending stream is so easy to hit for me. But I'll try to do something
That's it! I hope it's helpful. It was plenty of help!
Update
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NOTICE: I also changed some other things that I tought were bad.

P.S. PurpleHawk, would you mind if I posted a full mod for the mapset since alot has changed? :D


Door knobs are for squares!
PurpleHawk
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Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

UltraRik wrote:

Update
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NOTICE: I also changed some other things that I tought were bad.

P.S. PurpleHawk, would you mind if I posted a full mod for the mapset since alot has changed? :D

Door knobs are for squares!
Nice update and definitely yes, a mod would be awesome :D
DeletedUser_4329079
DeletedUser_4329079
Btw an insane being hp8 and an extra hp7 doesn't make any sense, I'd recommend you to change the drain in UtraRik's Insane to 7 as 8 is WAY too high for an insane that doesn't even reach 5 stars.
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik
~I'm at it again~

Overall
Most of these are just suggestions, the mapset is starting to look pretty good.
The second reason why the mod is short is that I don't feel like much of a mapper anymore, so I don't complain
about every little detail that doesn't suit my prefrence.

Rocket's Easy
Maybe changing 01:01:778 (1,2) - to 2 circles would look a bit simpler to read for newbies,
but other than that it's an excellent diff.

Normal
00:16:089 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Just using two 1/1 sliders on 00:16:265 - and 00:16:971 - would look nicer and more readable
00:27:721 (2) - I would end it on 00:28:251 - and add a return slider from 00:28:604 - to 00:29:310 -
00:33:192 (4) - Curve up instead of down, looks a bit odd in contrast to the previous slider
00:57:201 (5) - putting it in the centre of the screen might be easier to hit

Chamue's hard
The best mapper among us.
00:42:201 (1,3) - maybe delete for vocals sake
01:20:138 (1) - purposely not stacked?
01:28:257 (3) - I'd replace it with 2 cirlces on 01:28:257 - and 01:28:617 -

Insane
The improvement is real
00:15:206 (1) - rotate a bit counterclockwise to make a nice flow from 00:15:030 (7) - to 00:15:559 (2) -
01:21:196 (1,2,1,2) - Tinker with placement here, the last jump is too much for people who play 4.1* imo
Also theres a lot of circular patterns, try not going in circles too much with the notes

UltraRik's Insane

Default wrote:

Btw an insane being hp8 and an extra hp7 doesn't make any sense, I'd recommend you to change the drain in UtraRik's Insane to 7 as 8 is WAY too high for an insane that doesn't even reach 5 stars.
Plenty of hardest diffs have lower HP's. With that being said, I did decrease the HP a little.
osu file format v14

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Cl8n's Extra
I really like what you did with the stream at 00:22:442 -
00:36:730 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe X shaped jumps would be nicer than N shaped ones
Call me a noob, but some jumps feel overemphasized
DeletedUser_4329079
DeletedUser_4329079

UltraRik wrote:

Plenty of hardest diffs have lower HP's. With that being said, I did decrease the HP a little.

Indeed, but modern 4+ beatmaps rarely have HP8, if ever. It's not a big deal anyway, but hp8 would prevent a lot of new players from being able to pass it. 7.2 is fine though.
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

UltraRik wrote:

~I'm at it again~

Overall
Most of these are just suggestions, the mapset is starting to look pretty good.
The second reason why the mod is short is that I don't feel like much of a mapper anymore, so I don't complain
about every little detail that doesn't suit my prefrence.

Normal
00:16:089 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Just using two 1/1 sliders on 00:16:265 - and 00:16:971 - would look nicer and more readable It wouldn't follow the rhythm of the drums then?
00:27:721 (2) - I would end it on 00:28:251 - and add a return slider from 00:28:604 - to 00:29:310 - Nice, done :)
00:33:192 (4) - Curve up instead of down, looks a bit odd in contrast to the previous slider Done
00:57:201 (5) - putting it in the centre of the screen might be easier to hit Done

Insane
The improvement is real Thank you :D
00:15:206 (1) - rotate a bit counterclockwise to make a nice flow from 00:15:030 (7) - to 00:15:559 (2) - Nice, done :)
01:21:196 (1,2,1,2) - Tinker with placement here, the last jump is too much for people who play 4.1* imo Might be true, but this is also supposed to be the climax of the map, so I'll be keeping it for now. I mainly play 4.0-4.4* for FC and I can do those jumps 95% of the time. I like jump maps, and this is a jumpy map and therefore I find it fitting that the most difficult part of the map is a jump (without that jump the diff would've been 4.02*)
Also theres a lot of circular patterns, try not going in circles too much with the notes Yeah, bad habit that I mostly map in circles :/ I'll try to fix some of it
Thank you for the mod :D
HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88

UltraRik wrote:

~I'm at it again~

[Rocket's Easy]Maybe changing 01:01:778 (1,2) - to 2 circles would look a bit simpler to read for newbies, That might work, but no. I wanted to emphasize the 1/2 beats because of the intruments.
but other than that it's an excellent diff Thanks. c:
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk
Mapset has now been changed to Pending and I've applied for a few modding queues :) Will be sending Mod requests to different people aswell, so expect some mods in the next few days :)
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
MokouSmoke
irc mod for PurpleHawk's diffs
10:28 PurpleHawk: Hmm, was the piano rhythm wierd to play?
10:28 PurpleHawk: Also, did you play with mouse or pen now?
10:29 MokouSmoke: pen
10:29 MokouSmoke: let me take a closer look
10:29 MokouSmoke: the rhythms at the beginning had some strange spacings
10:29 MokouSmoke: or maybe i'm just imagining things since i just woke up ^.^
10:30 MokouSmoke: so you had someone check the timing right?
10:31 PurpleHawk: Yupp
10:31 PurpleHawk: That timing got ranked on another mapset yesterday :)
10:31 MokouSmoke: lol ok
10:32 PurpleHawk: Yeah, quite a lot of timing points :P
10:34 MokouSmoke: I think it's ok to map piano
10:34 MokouSmoke: but spacing needs to be more clear
10:35 PurpleHawk: Okey, so some places I have a DS of 2x an other places it's 1.5x, I just need to make sure that everything is 1.5x?
10:35 MokouSmoke: for example here 00:07:081 (1,2,3) -
10:35 MokouSmoke: 2 and 3 need larger spacing
10:35 PurpleHawk: Yeah
10:35 MokouSmoke: no you don't needs strict DS since it's insane but the difference between 1/2 and 1/1 should be apparant
10:36 MokouSmoke: 00:01:611 (2,3) - just a suggestion but you could try stacking
10:36 MokouSmoke: i think it matches the simplicity of the piano
10:40 MokouSmoke: would you like me to irc everything or just post on forum?
10:40 PurpleHawk: Nice suggestion, I'll definitely re-map the intro :)
10:40 PurpleHawk: IRC is fine by me, but I guess the others would need forum post
10:40 MokouSmoke: yeah i'll just look at your diffs for now
10:41 MokouSmoke: 00:02:493 (1,2) - suggest you use the same rhythm as 00:01:060 (1,2) - so there's less breaks in the song, but up to you
10:42 PurpleHawk: That wouldn't follow the piano?
10:43 MokouSmoke: why? it's the same in both parts
10:43 PurpleHawk: Or do you mean using a slider instead of a circle?
10:43 MokouSmoke: yeah slider
10:44 MokouSmoke: less breaks in the rhythm will make the mapping smoother
10:44 PurpleHawk: Oh, okey, I just thought it would nice with variation
10:45 MokouSmoke: the variation is ok, but please primarily use the slider
10:45 MokouSmoke: but up to you, it's minor suggestion
10:47 MokouSmoke: 00:13:271 (5,6,7) - could maybe unstack for better flow
10:48 PurpleHawk: Hmm, yeah, do you have an example of how you would do that?
10:49 PurpleHawk: What DS and so on
10:50 MokouSmoke: for triplet use small DS
10:50 MokouSmoke: like 0.6x
10:50 MokouSmoke: [http://puu.sh/jcvUj/64507af7d9.jpg]
10:50 MokouSmoke: something like this
10:51 MokouSmoke: 00:17:236 - suggest you add a note here and turn into 5 note stream
10:51 MokouSmoke: triplets starting on white tick marks are awkward
10:53 PurpleHawk: That would add a "fake" note :/ There's no 4th note in the drums
10:53 PurpleHawk: I could add it, but I'd rather not add "fake" notes
10:54 MokouSmoke: 00:22:971 (1,2,3,4,5) - extend slider to white tick mark and shift notes by 1/4
10:55 MokouSmoke: 00:27:721 (3) - break into two circles, needs something clickable on downbeat
10:56 MokouSmoke: 00:32:133 (1,2,3) - spacing issue
10:57 MokouSmoke: 00:33:015 - missing note for piano
10:58 MokouSmoke: 00:38:318 (2,3) - suggest you unstack for better flow
10:59 MokouSmoke: 00:40:613 (1,2,3) - needs bigger spacing, especially 1 to 2
11:00 MokouSmoke: 00:43:436 (4) - maybe ctr+g but doesn't really matter
11:02 MokouSmoke: 00:47:671 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - spacing makes rhythm confusing
11:04 MokouSmoke: 00:50:329 (8,9,10,11) - shift everything to the right by 1/2, you're missing lots of white tick marks
11:05 MokouSmoke: 01:09:902 (1) - recommend you change to slider to match 01:08:491 (7) -
11:06 PurpleHawk: The difference is that at 01:09 there's actually 2 "finishes" in the music and not 1 like at 01:08
11:06 MokouSmoke: mmm ok
11:07 MokouSmoke: 01:13:961 (1,1) - up to you, but consider changing to triplets, it's insane after all
11:07 PurpleHawk: I could decrease the spacing though, since I've seen some that struggle with it
11:08 PurpleHawk: I originally had it as trippels, but I couldn't do it myself, so I changed it :P (Want to be able to FC this map myself :P )
11:08 MokouSmoke: hmm... I thought the map was slightly easier than the average insane rofl
11:08 MokouSmoke: haha i hear you
11:08 PurpleHawk: After a stream it can be a bit difficult to recover so having 2 trippels right afterwards isn't exactly easy
11:09 MokouSmoke: 01:16:079 (2,3) - feels like it should be a triplet idk
11:09 MokouSmoke: 01:18:902 (2,3) - same
11:09 PurpleHawk: Insane diffs are 3.8-5.2*? So yeah, I guess it's a light insane
11:10 MokouSmoke: that's it
11:11 MokouSmoke: maybe try to fix some note placement to make more interesting patterns, but right now it plays well
11:11 PurpleHawk: Yeah, I understand that thought and like the sound of it, but again I'm hesitant because there's not anything in the drums indicating a tripple :/
11:11 MokouSmoke: tbh i can't even hear the drums when playing lol, but i understand
11:11 *MokouSmoke is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/690460 sana - Kotoba no Iranai Yakusoku (TV size) [Normal]]
11:11 MokouSmoke: ready?
11:12 PurpleHawk: Yeah :)
11:13 MokouSmoke: 00:02:493 (4,5,6) - flow can be refined
11:13 MokouSmoke: also, i haven't been paying attention, but how are you deciding your NCs?
11:15 MokouSmoke: 00:15:030 (7) - i'd move to 00:14:324 - so that 00:15:206 (1) - gets more emphasis
11:15 PurpleHawk: Well, this mapset has been in the works for 3 months and several re-maps so your guess is as good as mine, guess it's mainly breaks in 1/1 rhythm and other rhythm changes
11:15 MokouSmoke: i'd recommend just using NCs on downbeats whenever the combo gets too long
11:15 MokouSmoke: easy to do and intuitive for players to follow
11:17 MokouSmoke: 00:16:089 (2,3,4,5,6) - all these overlaps don't look very good
11:17 MokouSmoke: 00:18:736 (2) - end slider on white tick
11:18 MokouSmoke: 00:20:147 (5) - ^
11:18 MokouSmoke: 00:21:559 (8) - ^
11:18 PurpleHawk: Okey, so I'm following the drums in this part
11:18 MokouSmoke: 00:25:780 (4,5) - 5 can blanket 4
11:19 PurpleHawk: and to try to keep the rhythm from just being 1/1 all the time I tried to follow the drums that end on the blue tick
11:19 PurpleHawk: The sliders still start on a white tick
11:20 MokouSmoke: ok sorry, for some reason i can't hear drums well so just ignore
11:21 PurpleHawk: That's a good reason to not end the sliders on blue ticks in that case
11:21 PurpleHawk: if the rhythm is not audible
11:21 PurpleHawk: I guess I'll keep it for now, it's easy to change later
11:21 MokouSmoke: 00:52:979 (3,4) - disrupt flow to empasize 1/1 break
11:22 MokouSmoke: 00:54:391 - needs note imo
11:22 MokouSmoke: 01:08:314 - add note, your normal needs more 1/2 rhythms
11:23 MokouSmoke: 01:09:726 - ^
11:23 MokouSmoke: 01:17:844 - ^
11:23 MokouSmoke: 01:21:020 -
11:23 MokouSmoke: ^
11:23 MokouSmoke: 01:25:608 - ^
11:25 MokouSmoke: that's it
11:27 MokouSmoke: personally, I'd prefer if the vocals were followed over the drums if possible, but I guess it's just a difference in style
Edit: Mod for rest of diffs
[Rocket's Easy]
- 00:19:794 - missing note? maybe change 00:19:442 (4) - to 1/1 slider
- 00:24:368 (1) - might not be enough recovery time after spinner for this diff (typically 4 beats recommended for ez)
- 00:54:744 (1) - AiMod says this isn't snapped
Other than that, looks fine
[Chamue's Hard]
- I think it sounds better if you silence the sliderslide.wav sound in your S:C2 hitsounds
- 00:58:941 (4,5,6) - spacing issue
Also, a good diff
[UltraRik's Insane]
- AR9, HP7 is more standard and fits better imo
- Also, why such big circles? Use CS4.0
- The first 6 secs of mapping feels kinda stiff with all the straight line patterns, consider adding more curves for better flow
Map:
- 00:06:728 (5,1) - unnecessary overlap, maybe stack end of slider 1 on top of 5?
- 00:09:890 (1) - move to (156, 42) for better spacing and triangle pattern
- 00:12:741 (1) - move NC to 00:12:389 (3) - since it's the start of your drum rhythm
- 00:12:741 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - constant drum hitsounds don't sound very good. Maybe try to find a custom hitsound to go on offbeats?
- 00:15:030 (1) - move NC to 00:15:206 (2) -
- 00:15:206 (2) - strong beat which deserves more emphasis and a unique direction change. maybe ctr+g 00:15:206 (1,2) - and reposition some stuff
- 00:18:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - i'm not a fan of this jump pattern, especially since you suddenly switch it up at 00:19:089 (1,2) - also remove all the NCs, it makes it hard to read
- 00:19:794 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I found this to be a bit repetitive and the slider placement looks random. try some ctr+h 's or ctrl+g's for nicer slider patterns
- 00:24:015 (1,2) - space out more to avoid overlap
- 00:24:545 (1,3) - ^
- 00:26:486 (5) - blanket this with 00:25:957 (2,3,4) -
- 00:28:780 (1,2) - stack perfectly with 00:28:251 (1,2) - ?
- 00:33:545 (2,3) - more spacing to remove overlap
- 00:34:427 (1,2,3) - ^
- 00:41:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these could probably be 1/2 sliders to add more intesity to mat
- 00:46:260 (1,1,1) - why all the SV changes, it makes your sliders look misleading
- 00:47:142 - all these pauses in this section makes the map feel disjointed, you should fill in all the spaces with notes. the calm feeling in the song should come from lower DS/SV/note density (as in 1/2 or 1/1 sliders, not breaks in rhythm)
- 00:51:035 (2,3,4,5,6) - these spacings don't match the calm mood of the song and are as large as your kiai sections, please nerf
- 00:56:672 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - ^
- 01:03:902 (1,2) - spacing should be as large or larger than 01:03:197 (1,2) - i'd recommend making a triangle with 01:03:549 (3,4,2) -
- 01:04:432 (4,5) - needs larger spacing to match previous jumps
One possibility for jump pattern mentioned above: (but up to you if you want to change)
SPOILER
- 01:05:844 (1) - vocals end here and so should jumps, maybe use 1/2 slider instead
- 01:09:549 (3,4) - spacing should match 01:09:197 (1,2) - since the intensity of the song doesn't change
- 01:10:608 (1) - move NC to either 01:10:255 (6) - downbeat or 01:10:961 (2) - start of vocals
- 01:18:902 - you have a lot of these red tick gaps in this section that should be filled in to prevent map from feeling disjointed (probably with sliders starting from the previous white ticks) Even the hard diff uses more 1/2 rhythms than this
[Cl8n's Extra]
Just some general comments here.

Some of the spacings and rhythms don't follow the song imo. For example, 00:01:060 (1,2,3,4,1) - vocals are at 00:01:787 and 00:02:140 which should have have clickable objects if you're following that. If you're following piano, the three piano sounds at 00:01:964 , 00:02:140 , and 00:02:317 all need equal emphasis, so something like 3 circles with equal spacing would work. The guitar here has equal emphasis on everything, so if you follow that, DS should be consistent everywhere. Check your patterns and ask yourself if the spacing and rhythms match something in the song.

Don't break flow unless you have a good reason to. Examples:
- 00:14:500 (3,4) - should ctrl+g both sliders to flow better from 00:14:147 (2) - but then also need to adjust 00:15:206 (1,2,3,4) -
- 00:29:310 (3,4,5,1) - flow is rough. something like below would be better:
SPOILER
- 00:42:377 (4,5,6,7) - nothing in song indicates that 00:42:730 (5,6) should be more intense than 00:42:377 (4,7) - better if you just just copy 00:41:318 (1) and paste at 00:42:730 (5) to follow song and better flow
I think some sections of this diff need remapping for the reasons mentioned above. Sorry if that comes across as rude :(

Hope that helps and good luck!
Last edited by MokouSmoke , edited 1 time in total.
HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88

Rocket's mod

Hi from my Illegal modding queue. :^)

Open me ♥

General

  1. Not a big issue, but you can rename the 687474703a2f2f7075752e73682f68446b56532f313463313531386337362e6a7067.jpg file for something more readable.
  2. The normal diff presents kiai problem among the other diffs. shouldn't they have the same kiai time?
  3. Chamue¡s hard needs to snap some inherited timing points.

    AIBat v3.1 wrote:

    Snapping

    Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at:
    00:22:942 - snap to 00:22:971
    00:23:118 - snap to 00:23:147
    00:23:295 - snap to 00:23:324
    00:23:471 - snap to 00:23:500
  4. Same as the insane

    AIBat v3.1 wrote:

    Snapping

    Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at:
    00:12:354 - snap to 00:12:380
    00:55:373 - snap to 00:55:355
  5. Ultrarik's Insane has an unsnapped slider's end 01:27:184 (1) and an unsnapped inherited point 00:01:160 should be snapped at 00:01:153.
  6. I don't know but I think the video offset should be in -40 for me.

Normal

  1. 00:02:140 (3,4) This isn't perfectly blanket but still looks good.
  2. 00:08:480 (1,4) Not a visible overlap, but they toocuh each other. I'd suggest you to move it a bit to up to avoid the overlap.
  3. 00:10:949 (5) Ctrl + H, to improve the flow.
  4. 00:13:094 (3,6) Same, not a visible overlap but stil looks weird. Ctrl + H in this 00:14:500 (6) might work perfectly.
  5. 00:12:389 (1) Reduce the vol here, the whistles are too noisy.
  6. 00:12:389 (1) Same.
  7. 00:16:089 (2,3,4,5,6,7) I know you were following the drums here, but don't you think it looks a bit overmapped? Besides, 00:17:500 (7) here the song claims to be calmed and you just forced it with a 1/2 slider that doesn't follow the vocals, which is more noticeable here than the drums. Maybe you can try out this
  8. HP +0.5 to keep consistency with the Easy and the Hard.
  9. 00:19:265 (3,4) What about stacking them to avoid the overlap between these objects 00:18:030 (1,4) ?
  10. 00:24:721 (2) Put it here 256|208 to improve the flow with the previous slider.
  11. 00:25:074 (3) This can be more curve.
  12. 00:25:780 (4,5) Make better blanket here.
  13. 00:27:721 (2) this doesn't look symmetric itself.
  14. 00:32:133 (3) Put it here 64|272 to make it symmetric with this slider 00:31:074 (1) 's end.
  15. 00:33:192 (4) OMG! Please, fix this blanket. What about trying a sharpening slider here? Like this
  16. 00:34:966 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) How is it suppoed you placed the NC combing here? I think there inconsistency with the 2 measures NC combing you manage in the previous pattern.
  17. 00:42:730 (1,3) Please, ugly overlap. >_< and also the flow isn't good, I'd rather follow the previous pattern you have in this part to make symmetry. Like this
  18. 01:05:314 (6,2) They touch each other a bit. Consider moving the (2) slider to the left a little.

Chamue's Hard

  1. AR -1. this is just a 3 stars map and it's easy to follow the patterns. Besides, Ar8 would be great for harder mapsets.
  2. 00:38:848 (5,1) Stack them properly, please. c:

UltraRik's Insane

  1. OD + 1 or +1.2. Because the PurpleHawk's Insane has the same OD compared to your diff.
I can't mod insane diffs. ;__;
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik
[UltraRik's Insane]
- AR9, HP7 is more standard and fits better imo Idk, Not sure about that
- Also, why such big circles? Use CS4.0 I love me some fat circles. But I might decrease them later.
- The first 6 secs of mapping feels kinda stiff with all the straight line patterns, consider adding more curves for better flow I agree
Map:
- 00:06:728 (5,1) - unnecessary overlap, maybe stack end of slider 1 on top of 5? Moved it up
- 00:09:890 (1) - move to (156, 42) for better spacing and triangle pattern ... F*CK THAT'S NICE.
- 00:12:741 (1) - move NC to 00:12:389 (3) - since it's the start of your drum rhythm Sure
- 00:12:741 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - constant drum hitsounds don't sound very good. Maybe try to find a custom hitsound to go on offbeats? I agree but I don't have any and don't know how to get them
- 00:15:030 (1) - move NC to 00:15:206 (2) - Wow yes
- 00:15:206 (2) - strong beat which deserves more emphasis and a unique direction change. maybe ctr+g 00:15:206 (1,2) - and reposition some stuff
I can't find anything good to do with it as it is
- 00:18:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - i'm not a fan of this jump pattern, especially since you suddenly switch it up at 00:19:089 (1,2) - also remove all the NCs, it makes it hard to read I recently fell in love with repetitive 1-2 jumps after playing alot of Skystar maps, and also the NC's are mandatory imo. I used to think that these type of jumps were lame, but one day I just felt them, so here they are now.
- 00:19:794 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I found this to be a bit repetitive and the slider placement looks random. try some ctr+h 's or ctrl+g's for nicer slider patterns
I did BOTH to ALL of them, lol
- 00:24:015 (1,2) - space out more to avoid overlap Okay
- 00:24:545 (1,3) - ^ fine
- 00:26:486 (5) - blanket this with 00:25:957 (2,3,4) - That would kill what I tried to do there with the flow
- 00:28:780 (1,2) - stack perfectly with 00:28:251 (1,2) - ? No need, adds a tiny downward motion to the everything
- 00:33:545 (2,3) - more spacing to remove overlap Ok
- 00:34:427 (1,2,3) - ^ Ok
- 00:41:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these could probably be 1/2 sliders to add more intesity to mat YES
- 00:46:260 (1,1,1) - why all the SV changes, it makes your sliders look misleading OOPS, some of those were leftovers from the old timing when we used 170 BPM, but I think it works good now I found a big error on one slider
- 00:47:142 - all these pauses in this section makes the map feel disjointed, you should fill in all the spaces with notes. the calm feeling in the song should come from lower DS/SV/note density (as in 1/2 or 1/1 sliders, not breaks in rhythm) I changed something, but I might remap that part in future
- 00:51:035 (2,3,4,5,6) - these spacings don't match the calm mood of the song and are as large as your kiai sections, please nerf I saw this coming lol
- 00:56:672 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - ^ Ooh. Not sure about that, it's the build-up hype I feel for the kiai here
- 01:03:902 (1,2) - spacing should be as large or larger than 01:03:197 (1,2) - i'd recommend making a triangle with 01:03:549 (3,4,2) - Sure
- 01:04:432 (4,5) - needs larger spacing to match previous jumps Made a little bigger
One possibility for jump pattern mentioned above: (but up to you if you want to change) Everybody else's skins confuse me lol
SPOILER
- 01:05:844 (1) - vocals end here and so should jumps, maybe use 1/2 slider instead Wouldn't work imo, also the "se" drags out and slightly climbes in pitch
- 01:09:549 (3,4) - spacing should match 01:09:197 (1,2) - since the intensity of the song doesn't change I don't think mathematical percision plays a big role in the flow, humans aren't robots, also lot's of maps have completly looks-based placement regardless of jump distance
- 01:10:608 (1) - move NC to either 01:10:255 (6) - downbeat or 01:10:961 (2) - start of vocals neat, ok
- 01:18:902 - you have a lot of these red tick gaps in this section that should be filled in to prevent map from feeling disjointed (probably with sliders starting from the previous white ticks) Even the hard diff uses more 1/2 rhythms than this I think it is called for

Thanx~ u're good.
UltraRik's Insane
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EDIT: EVERYBODY SHOOT 4TH PLS - kthxbai
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

HappyRocket88 wrote:


Rocket's mod

Hi from my Illegal modding queue. :^)

Open me ♥

General

  1. Not a big issue, but you can rename the 687474703a2f2f7075752e73682f68446b56532f313463313531386337362e6a7067.jpg file for something more readable. Done :)
  2. The normal diff presents kiai problem among the other diffs. shouldn't they have the same kiai time? Whops, fixed
  3. I don't know but I think the video offset should be in -40 for me. Still working on this, currently at -15 offset, I'll get a better check once I get my video editing software up and running :)

Normal

  1. 00:02:140 (3,4) This isn't perfectly blanket but still looks good. Improved
  2. 00:08:480 (1,4) Not a visible overlap, but they toocuh each other. I'd suggest you to move it a bit to up to avoid the overlap Fixed
  3. 00:10:949 (5) Ctrl + H, to improve the flow. Fixed
  4. 00:13:094 (3,6) Same, not a visible overlap but stil looks weird. Ctrl + H in this 00:14:500 (6) might work perfectly. Fixed
  5. 00:12:389 (1) Reduce the vol here, the whistles are too noisy. the "whistle" hitsound (that sounds like the drums) or the finish hitsound?
  6. 00:12:389 (1) Same.
  7. 00:16:089 (2,3,4,5,6,7) I know you were following the drums here, but don't you think it looks a bit overmapped? Besides, 00:17:500 (7) here the song claims to be calmed and you just forced it with a 1/2 slider that doesn't follow the vocals, which is more noticeable here than the drums. Maybe you can try out this
    It breaks my heart, but I removed a few of the notes and simplified the rhythm, it still follow the strong drum beats, but skips some of the red ticks
  8. HP +0.5 to keep consistency with the Easy and the Hard. Fixed
  9. 00:19:265 (3,4) What about stacking them to avoid the overlap between these objects 00:18:030 (1,4) ? Fixed as part of the last comment (had to re-arrange the notes a bit)
  10. 00:24:721 (2) Put it here 256|208 to improve the flow with the previous slider. Fixed
  11. 00:25:074 (3) This can be more curve. I don't see the need for it to be more curvy? It's quite short, so imo it wouldn't look that nice
  12. 00:25:780 (4,5) Make better blanket here. Fixed
  13. 00:27:721 (2) this doesn't look symmetric itself. Fixed
  14. 00:32:133 (3) Put it here 64|272 to make it symmetric with this slider 00:31:074 (1) 's end. Fixed
  15. 00:33:192 (4) OMG! Please, fix this blanket. What about trying a sharpening slider here? Like this Fixed
  16. 00:34:966 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) How is it suppoed you placed the NC combing here? I think there inconsistency with the 2 measures NC combing you manage in the previous pattern. NC on the repeat slider with the very clear drum beats, I used NC to emphasize that sound and map element so that the player can see the pattern.
  17. 00:42:730 (1,3) Please, ugly overlap. >_< and also the flow isn't good, I'd rather follow the previous pattern you have in this part to make symmetry. Like this Fixed
  18. 01:05:314 (6,2) They touch each other a bit. Consider moving the (2) slider to the left a little. Fixed
Thank you for the mod HappyRocket :D

UltraRik wrote:

UltraRik's Insane
- AR9, HP7 is more standard and fits better imo Idk, Not sure about that
- Also, why such big circles? Use CS4.0 I love me some fat circles. But I might decrease them later.
- The first 6 secs of mapping feels kinda stiff with all the straight line patterns, consider adding more curves for better flow I agree
Map:
- 00:06:728 (5,1) - unnecessary overlap, maybe stack end of slider 1 on top of 5? Moved it up
- 00:09:890 (1) - move to (156, 42) for better spacing and triangle pattern ... F*CK THAT'S NICE.
- 00:12:741 (1) - move NC to 00:12:389 (3) - since it's the start of your drum rhythm Sure
- 00:12:741 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - constant drum hitsounds don't sound very good. Maybe try to find a custom hitsound to go on offbeats? I agree but I don't have any and don't know how to get them
- 00:15:030 (1) - move NC to 00:15:206 (2) - Wow yes
- 00:15:206 (2) - strong beat which deserves more emphasis and a unique direction change. maybe ctr+g 00:15:206 (1,2) - and reposition some stuff
I can't find anything good to do with it as it is
- 00:18:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - i'm not a fan of this jump pattern, especially since you suddenly switch it up at 00:19:089 (1,2) - also remove all the NCs, it makes it hard to read I recently fell in love with repetitive 1-2 jumps after playing alot of Skystar maps, and also the NC's are mandatory imo. I used to think that these type of jumps were lame, but one day I just felt them, so here they are now.
- 00:19:794 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I found this to be a bit repetitive and the slider placement looks random. try some ctr+h 's or ctrl+g's for nicer slider patterns
I did BOTH to ALL of them, lol
- 00:24:015 (1,2) - space out more to avoid overlap Okay
- 00:24:545 (1,3) - ^ fine
- 00:26:486 (5) - blanket this with 00:25:957 (2,3,4) - That would kill what I tried to do there with the flow
- 00:28:780 (1,2) - stack perfectly with 00:28:251 (1,2) - ? No need, adds a tiny downward motion to the everything
- 00:33:545 (2,3) - more spacing to remove overlap Ok
- 00:34:427 (1,2,3) - ^ Ok
- 00:41:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these could probably be 1/2 sliders to add more intesity to mat YES
- 00:46:260 (1,1,1) - why all the SV changes, it makes your sliders look misleading OOPS, some of those were leftovers from the old timing when we used 170 BPM, but I think it works good now I found a big error on one slider
- 00:47:142 - all these pauses in this section makes the map feel disjointed, you should fill in all the spaces with notes. the calm feeling in the song should come from lower DS/SV/note density (as in 1/2 or 1/1 sliders, not breaks in rhythm) I changed something, but I might remap that part in future
- 00:51:035 (2,3,4,5,6) - these spacings don't match the calm mood of the song and are as large as your kiai sections, please nerf I saw this coming lol
- 00:56:672 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - ^ Ooh. Not sure about that, it's the build-up hype I feel for the kiai here
- 01:03:902 (1,2) - spacing should be as large or larger than 01:03:197 (1,2) - i'd recommend making a triangle with 01:03:549 (3,4,2) - Sure
- 01:04:432 (4,5) - needs larger spacing to match previous jumps Made a little bigger
One possibility for jump pattern mentioned above: (but up to you if you want to change) Everybody else's skins confuse me lol
SPOILER
- 01:05:844 (1) - vocals end here and so should jumps, maybe use 1/2 slider instead Wouldn't work imo, also the "se" drags out and slightly climbes in pitch
- 01:09:549 (3,4) - spacing should match 01:09:197 (1,2) - since the intensity of the song doesn't change I don't think mathematical percision plays a big role in the flow, humans aren't robots, also lot's of maps have completly looks-based placement regardless of jump distance
- 01:10:608 (1) - move NC to either 01:10:255 (6) - downbeat or 01:10:961 (2) - start of vocals neat, ok
- 01:18:902 - you have a lot of these red tick gaps in this section that should be filled in to prevent map from feeling disjointed (probably with sliders starting from the previous white ticks) Even the hard diff uses more 1/2 rhythms than this I think it is called for

Thanx~ u're good.
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EDIT: EVERYBODY SHOOT 4TH PLS - kthxbai
Nice update :D but seriously, I'm not joining the star shooting competition anymore :P We've got plenty of SP already :)

For those of you who notice that your background has disappeared:
I reduced the filename by 1440% by re-nameing it to "BG.jpg", so this needs to be changed in the .osu file :) I've done this for UltraRik's Insane and my own diffs, but didn't want to start changing the other osu files in case you guys were working on an update to MokouSmoke's mod :)
HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88

UltraRik wrote:

EDIT: EVERYBODY SHOOT 4TH PLS - [/color]kthxbai

You can cry but I won't shoot more stars unless cl8n does.

MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
MokouSmoke

UltraRik wrote:

- 00:12:741 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - constant drum hitsounds don't sound very good. Maybe try to find a custom hitsound to go on offbeats? I agree but I don't have any and don't know how to get them
Oh...lol. Since you were already using custom hitsounds, I just kinda assumed. Websites like findsounds.com is a good place to search for stuff. Otherwise, this guy has a really well-organized hitsound library on his profile page that you can use.

The other mappers of this mapset are also using this hitsound set, so you should talk to them first before changing anything, or else you'll need to create your own set of custom hitsounds.
RikiH_
1,149 posts
Joined February 2011
RikiH_
m4m right here!

Just suggestions because this map is well done o.o

Cl8n's Extra

00:23:663 to 00:33:368 - What about decreasing the SV? I mean, this part is calm and I think it would suit
01:02:484 (3) - NC here?
01:08:844 (4) - NC here to emphasize? You also are on the big, white tick so...
01:10:255 (5) - Same here
01:20:138 (4) - ^ And also in the following slider 01:21:549 (5)

UltraRik's Insane

00:12:389 (1) - Bad overlap with the previous slider
00:19:442 (3) - NC here for consistancy?
00:29:310 (3) - This slider has got a ugly shape in my opinion... Just use a single sliderpoint
00:33:192 (1) - Bad overlap with the previous slider

Insane

00:06:551 (4,1,2) - Stack 4 and 2, and also improve the blanket
00:35:495 (3) - Spacing mistake right here
00:36:377 (3,4) - Make the same shape, also 4 touches the previous note in a weird way
00:43:083 (3,4) - Improve blanket
01:21:549 (1,2) - Ctrl+g here, it will create a jump and improve the flow

Chamue's Hard

00:43:436 (1,2) - This blanket can be better

Normal

00:01:060 (1) - Weird shape... Use just one sliderpoint
00:17:324 (5,6) - Uh, I'd use the same shape for these, since they look ugly
00:22:794 (2,3) - Same
00:56:143 (3,4) - I feel they are too close, but maybe it's just me
01:22:255 (5,1) - Use the same shape here, and also blanket them properly
01:24:373 (3,4) - Same as above, they are too close to me

Rocket's Easy

00:27:545 (5) - Move slidertail to 120|264? I think it looks and flows better
00:54:744 (1,2,3) - Select the whole pattern and move it to 176|98 so it's perfectly symmetrical to the central vertical line

__

That's all, good luck 8-)
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

RikiH_ wrote:

Insane

00:06:551 (4,1,2) - Stack 4 and 2, and also improve the blanket Nice, done :)
00:35:495 (3) - Spacing mistake right here Fixed
00:36:377 (3,4) - Make the same shape, also 4 touches the previous note in a weird way Changed those sliders and notes to a different pattern
00:43:083 (3,4) - Improve blanket Done
01:21:549 (1,2) - Ctrl+g here, it will create a jump and improve the flow ???

Normal

00:01:060 (1) - Weird shape... Use just one sliderpoint Yeah, changed it
00:17:324 (5,6) - Uh, I'd use the same shape for these, since they look ugly Nice, changed
00:22:794 (2,3) - Same Yupp
00:56:143 (3,4) - I feel they are too close, but maybe it's just me Ehm, tried to re-arrange them a bit, but it's supposed to be DS 1x, so don't know what more I can do :/
01:22:255 (5,1) - Use the same shape here, and also blanket them properly Nice, done
01:24:373 (3,4) - Same as above, they are too close to me I think it works better here, so I'm keeping it for now
Thank you for the mod :D
HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88

RikiH_ wrote:

Rocket's Easy

00:27:545 (5) - Move slidertail to 120|264? I think it looks and flows better. But the slider doesn't fit in the pattern. but I did something different
00:54:744 (1,2,3) - Select the whole pattern and move it to 176|98 so it's perfectly symmetrical to the central vertical line Nice suggestion. c:
Here's the update. Hope it has the bg file.

I am XxXOrochimaruXxX
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 62837
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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Title:Kotoba no Iranai Yakusoku (TV size)
TitleUnicode:言葉のいらない約束 (TV size)
Artist:sana
ArtistUnicode:sana
Creator:PurpleHawk
Version:Rocket's Easy
Source:NARUTO - ナルト - 疾風伝
Tags:shippuden ending ed 33 ultrarik chamue cl8n honeyworks happyrocket88
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-Lemons
219 posts
Joined July 2012
-Lemons
Mod at the request of PurpleHawk

Rocket's Easy
Check Ai Mod, try not to break from DS on easy maps http://puu.sh/jf6zG/39c66eb106.jpg
00:24:368 (1) - This note happens too early from the spinner, to quote the wiki for easy beatmapping; "When using a spinner, make sure the length is fairly long. 2-4 measures is a good guide.
The reasoning is because most new players are going to react slowly to a spinner, so there's a delay in starting them. Then they will also spin wildly, usually drawing along the perimeter of the screen. Once the spinner is complete, they will be most probably disoriented and wondering where their cursor is."
00:43:436 (1) - The curve on the second part of this slider is ugly, make it curvier, something like this http://puu.sh/jf6uM/2ff4ddd4c4.jpg
apart from that you're fine

Normal
00:11:675 - 00:12:027 - 00:53:332 - , you missed some strong beats, I think there should be notes to click on those particular parts
apart from that, there's some confusing rhythms but players need to be big boys and learn them so it's all good

Chamue's Hard
Slider tick rate of 2 is unnecessary, it makes the quiet parts be really loud, switch it to 1 pls nothing else to say

Insane
Press Ctrl-A and look at all the space you didn't fill ;w;
00:01:787 - 00:03:198 - 00:06:022 - 00:07:434 - 00:08:832 - Missed strong beats
00:10:067 (1) NC
00:10:949 (1) - NC
00:14:147 (2) - slider design is ugly, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450445 something like this is better and it sort of helps you lead into my next thing I'm mentioning
00:15:030 (7,1) - Oh my god this jump BRO it's huge (Look at this jump for what I'm talking about in terms of it being huge 00:13:624 (8,1) - ) something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450456 fixes this issue
00:16:442 (7,1) - ^ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450462
00:16:971 (2,3,4,5) - 2,3,4 without my fix there I did are too close to 1, and regardless of if you use that fix or not 2,3,4 and 5 are too close together for consistency reasons
00:17:324 (5,6) - these don't need to be super close, you can make better use of the slider leniency circle
00:18:030 (1,2,3,4) - The placement of 1 is kinda bleh for this pattern, as it makes it overlap is a pretty unappealing way , move it more towards the center of 3 at the very least but I would honestly just completely change up this combo
00:22:265 (5,6,7) - the DS on this is weird, just make it consistent
00:22:971 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:31:427 Based on the previous combo, you've begun to map both the vocals and the music behind it, however you switch back to mapping the music here so it's a little jarring. I'd either fill back in the strong beats that get 'ignored' while mapping the music or switch the previous combo (00:28:780 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - )to be mapping just the music and keep the rest the same, up to you
00:39:907 (1,2,3,1) - These are all super big jumps and I can't find a reason musically for them to be like that
00:50:505 (9) - NC
00:54:744 (1,2) - these are a bit messy, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450557 looks nicer
01:01:778 (1,2,1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450562 I think is nicer but this one is totes up to you
(The entire Kiai is super messy but I'll try and point out stuff to make it okay)
01:05:314 (4,5,6,7,8) - Ctrl H this combo and move it to 376|200 and then mess around this 01:06:373 (1,2,3) - (I did this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450612 while we're at it, 01:06:020 (8) - NC here, 01:06:373 (1) - here, and here 01:07:079 (5) - to clean up the combos
01:07:255 (6) - http://puu.sh/jfbIK/fe38a29299.jpg (Clean up the triangle here, it was kinda weird) 152|352
01:09:902 (4) - NC
01:10:255 (1) - I don't know if I like the placement of this note, maybe try 204|0 to make a sort of obtuse triangle sort of pattern
01:10:961 (1,2,3,4) - Why so close spacing? seems kind of random to have it just suddenly make the notes so close together
01:10:961 (1) - NC unneeded
01:11:667 (4) - NC
01:11:667 (4,1) - Jump so big so suddenly
01:12:726 (1) - NC unneeded , I'd also move both 01:12:726 (1,2) - to 320|184
01:13:961 (8) - NC unneeded
01:15:549 (1) - ^
01:15:549 (5,6,1,2) - This spacing is kinda inconsistant, mostly between 6 and 1
01:16:608 (1) - NC unneeded
01:17:667 (1) - ^
01:18:373 (1) - ^
01:19:432 (1) - ^
01:19:785 (1) - ^
01:19:785 (1,1) - Big ol jump again,
01:20:491 (1) - NC Unneeded
01:21:196 (1) - ^
01:21:373 (2,1) - These are like super duper close together while the previous jump was super big so I'd change this up https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450723 maybe
01:22:255 (1) - NC Unneeded
01:22:961 (6) - NC
01:23:314 (2) - NC Unneeded
01:24:020 (1) - ^
01:24:726 (1) - ^
01:25:432 (1) - ^
01:25:785 (4) - NC

I have to leave for work now, will update post with the remaining 2 difficulties when I get home

I have returned home from work thus here are the final two difficulties!

UltraRik's Insane
(After reading over my own mod I realized I'm a nazi but hopefully you find it helpful)
Green point at 00:01:160 - is put in a weird spot, If it's for 00:01:435 (2) - then have it actually begin on the slider head (Rankability mumbojumbo just wanted to let you know bout it
Yo your combos are so wacked out. Literally just like, clear every combo on the map and then redo them with it having the combos begin on the downbeats (Aside from the parts where you do stuff like this 00:18:030 (1,2,1,2) - this makes total sense for what you're going with just like there's a lot of times like 00:28:780 (1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,1) - where the combos are all kinds of wat)
00:19:442 (3) - NC for consistancy of this part
00:24:015 (1,2) - I see what you're doing during this part where you slowly increase the DS as the song builds energy, but either have these two be like straight up rubbin on eachother or have them be a little bit more spread, up to you
00:24:545 (1,3) - Overlap is weird pls fix
00:25:957 (2,3,5) - these overlap in a pretty unappealing way, something like this maybe? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3451635
00:39:554 (1,2,3,4) - The area where the 2 notes nearby each other isn't the same on both sides pls fix
01:01:778 (1,2,1,2) - make these jumps bigger honestly
I don't really see much else I would change, maybe take a look at some of the flow as some parts are a little rough

Cl8n's Xtra
Tbh my modding gets pretty shit once we pass up past like 5.3 stars so hopefully this will be at least a little helpful.
00:33:192 (3,4,1) - I don't like the way this is spaced out tbh, It makes you start with like, very little movement into an explosion of movement while the song doesn't really explode at me
01:02:484 (3) - this one is totally up to you, but every other difficulty that uses this sort of pattern has a NC on this note, so maybe do it for consistency but totes up to you
01:14:138 (12,13) - This seems like it's going to be a problem spot just because of the way that 13 is placed, most peoples cursors are gonna be saved by the leniency circle, but 13's sliderhead seems super out of the way, something like this would probably play better and accomplish the same thing of what you were going for https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3451693

For cl8n's extra Combos
I might be retarded so don't really worry to much about this but I was doing looking at combos and they seemed off to me but honestly I probably just suck but here's all this cuz I didn't like having a big ass mod filled with nc and rc so yeah
00:44:848 (7) - NC
00:47:495 (4) - ^
00:50:329 (4) - ^
00:53:332 (6) - ^
00:58:591 (2) - ^
01:04:608 (7) - NC
01:05:138 (1) - RC (Remove Combo)
01:06:020 (7) - NC
01:06:549 (1) - RC
01:07:432 (5) - NC
01:08:138 (1) - RC
01:08:844 (4) - NC
01:09:373 (1) - RC
01:10:255 (5) - NC
01:10:961 (1) - RC
01:12:373 (1) - ^
01:15:902 (7) - RC
01:16:432 (1) - ^
01:17:314 (8) - NC
01:17:844 (1) - RC
01:18:549 (4) - NC
01:19:432 (1) - RC
01:20:138 (4) - NC
01:20:667 (1) - RC
01:21:549 (5) - NC
01:22:079 (1) - RC
01:25:432 (1) - ^
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik

RikiH_ wrote:

UltraRik's Insane

00:12:389 (1) - Bad overlap with the previous slider fixt
00:19:442 (3) - NC here for consistancy? fixt
00:29:310 (3) - This slider has got a ugly shape in my opinion... Just use a single sliderpoint nah it might be hard to keep it away from surrounding circles
00:33:192 (1) - Bad overlap with the previous slider fixt

Stats~ YAY: 3 | NAY: 1 | Other: 0



-Lemons wrote:

(After reading over my own mod I realized I'm a nazi but hopefully you find it helpful) lol
Green point at 00:01:160 - is put in a weird spot, If it's for 00:01:435 (2) - then have it actually begin on the slider head (Rankability mumbojumbo just wanted to let you know bout it SHIT why is that a rankability issue? It's WAY cleaner looking this way. But i did change it
Yo your combos are so wacked out. Literally just like, clear every combo on the map and then redo them with it having the combos begin on the downbeats I strongly disagree
(Aside from the parts where you do stuff like this 00:18:030 (1,2,1,2) - this makes total sense for what you're going with just like there's a lot of times like 00:28:780 (1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,1) - where the combos are all kinds of wat) I changed that part
00:19:442 (3) - NC for consistancy of this part fixt with the previous mod
00:24:015 (1,2) - I see what you're doing during this part where you slowly increase the DS as the song builds energy, but either have these two be like straight up rubbin on eachother or have them be a little bit more spread, up to you spreaded
00:24:545 (1,3) - Overlap is weird pls fix you misspelled 'well made' :D
00:25:957 (2,3,5) - these overlap in a pretty unappealing way, something like this maybe? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3451635
I strongly disagree, that would have no flow. I always map to match the natural hand movement as much as it is possible.
00:39:554 (1,2,3,4) - The area where the 2 notes nearby each other isn't the same on both sides pls fix oops fixt
01:01:778 (1,2,1,2) - make these jumps bigger honestly I tried to do A LOT with these jumps, but really everyone has their own view on how they should be positioned. There is not one correct interpretation of this part of the song.
I don't really see much else I would change, maybe take a look at some of the flow as some parts are a little rough
I'll do my b e t s
Stats~ YAY: 6 | NAY: 3 | Other: 1

UltraRik's Insane
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HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88

-Lemons wrote:

[Rocket's Easy]
Check Ai Mod, try not to break from DS on easy maps Aimod is trolling us because the whole pattern has the same DS. lol
00:24:368 (1) - This note happens too early from the spinner, to quote the wiki for easy beatmapping; "When using a spinner, make sure the length is fairly long. 2-4 measures is a good guide. Did something different. At least, beginners wouldn't be that disoriented if I shorter the lenght of that slider a bit.
00:43:436 (1) - The curve on the second part of this slider is ugly, make it curvier, something like this http://puu.sh/jf6uM/2ff4ddd4c4.jpg
apart from that you're fine. Hope it looks better now.
Thanks abunch for your mod. c:

I am a XxxNarutoxxX
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clayton
1,901 posts
Joined November 2013
clayton
update

phaZ wrote:

[Cl8n's Extra]
01:02:837 (5) - use new combo and stack them pls. that pattern is just weird since those circles do not belong together changed and added nc
01:03:902 (3,5) - the whole combo has a bit weird placemnet imo. swap at least (3,5) it flows way better changed
01:07:961 (7,1,2,3) - flow is really messed up here: 01:06:726 (2,3,4,5,6) - this leads into some kind of circle-shit flow which is why i want to hit 01:08:314 (2) - before 01:08:138 (1). the zick-zack pattern should be mirrored to make it flow better changed
01:08:491 (3,4) - would be look better if they are stacked even more, imo (not necessarily completely, not menitoning the further one) meant to have a small space
01:14:138 (12,13,1) - high spaced stream but then such a low spaced jump uhh~ changed

PurpleHawk wrote:

PS: Changing the status of the mapset to Pending soon. imo still a definite work-in-progress but oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

UltraRik wrote:

00:36:730 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe X shaped jumps would be nicer than N shaped ones "X" wouldn't allow me to return to the starting position
Call me a noob, but some jumps feel overemphasized big in-map spread yep

MokouSmoke wrote:

[Cl8n's Extra]
Just some general comments here.

Some of the spacings and rhythms don't follow the song imo. For example, 00:01:060 (1,2,3,4,1) - vocals are at 00:01:787 and 00:02:140 which should have have clickable objects if you're following that. If you're following piano, the three piano sounds at 00:01:964 , 00:02:140 , and 00:02:317 all need equal emphasis, so something like 3 circles with equal spacing would work. The guitar here has equal emphasis on everything, so if you follow that, DS should be consistent everywhere. Check your patterns and ask yourself if the spacing and rhythms match something in the song. back when i mapped this, I thought the hitsounds would indicate vocals enough but after gaining experience I realize this needs a remap. changed some of the beginning section

Don't break flow unless you have a good reason to. Examples:
- 00:14:500 (3,4) - should ctrl+g both sliders to flow better from 00:14:147 (2) - but then also need to adjust 00:15:206 (1,2,3,4) - changed 3 and 4; kept same after
- 00:29:310 (3,4,5,1) - flow is rough. something like below would be better: changed
SPOILER
- 00:42:377 (4,5,6,7) - nothing in song indicates that 00:42:730 (5,6) should be more intense than 00:42:377 (4,7) - better if you just just copy 00:41:318 (1) and paste at 00:42:730 (5) to follow song and better flow changed
I think some sections of this diff need remapping for the reasons mentioned above. Sorry if that comes across as rude :( not at all! i definitely agree some sections are pretty bad lol. i mapped this when i was a noob B)

Hope that helps and good luck! thanks:)

RikiH_ wrote:

Cl8n's Extra

00:23:663 to 00:33:368 - What about decreasing the SV? I mean, this part is calm and I think it would suit same as first section, just no guitar/bass, so same sv
01:02:484 (3) - NC here? added nc
01:08:844 (4) - NC here to emphasize? You also are on the big, white tick so... added nc
01:10:255 (5) - Same here added nc
01:20:138 (4) - ^ And also in the following slider 01:21:549 (5) added nc

-Lemons wrote:

Tbh my modding gets pretty shit once we pass up past like 5.3 stars so hopefully this will be at least a little helpful.
00:33:192 (3,4,1) - I don't like the way this is spaced out tbh, It makes you start with like, very little movement into an explosion of movement while the song doesn't really explode at me not that your mp3 should be exploding anyways but i think this is justified by song
01:02:484 (3) - this one is totally up to you, but every other difficulty that uses this sort of pattern has a NC on this note, so maybe do it for consistency but totes up to you added nc
01:14:138 (12,13) - This seems like it's going to be a problem spot just because of the way that 13 is placed, most peoples cursors are gonna be saved by the leniency circle, but 13's sliderhead seems super out of the way, something like this would probably play better and accomplish the same thing of what you were going for https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3451693 changed (hopefully better)

I might be retarded so don't really worry to much about this but I was doing looking at combos and they seemed off to me but honestly I probably just suck but here's all this cuz I didn't like having a big ass mod filled with nc and rc so yeah
00:44:848 (7) - NC added
00:47:495 (4) - ^ no
00:50:329 (4) - ^ no
00:53:332 (6) - ^ no
00:58:591 (2) - ^ no
01:04:608 (7) - NC the rest of these I changed anyways but I think most of them are similar to what you suggested. they roughly follow measures for the most part
01:05:138 (1) - RC
01:06:020 (7) - NC
01:06:549 (1) - RC
01:07:432 (5) - NC
01:08:138 (1) - RC
01:08:844 (4) - NC
01:09:373 (1) - RC
01:10:255 (5) - NC
01:10:961 (1) - RC
01:12:373 (1) - ^
01:15:902 (7) - RC
01:16:432 (1) - ^
01:17:314 (8) - NC
01:17:844 (1) - RC
01:18:549 (4) - NC
01:19:432 (1) - RC
01:20:138 (4) - NC
01:20:667 (1) - RC
01:21:549 (5) - NC
01:22:079 (1) - RC
01:25:432 (1) - ^
this map is basically just an artifact of how i used to map (which, isn't that great) lol
i could do a whole remap but idk if i'm motivated enough ;;
for now fixing up this diff. c l 8 n i s b a c k 2 0 1 5

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PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk
All of the difficulties have been updated, sorry for the delay, but that brings me onto my next point:

I'm going to be offline the next few days (week or so) because I'm moving to a city on the other side of the country (far, far North where the Polar Bears roam in the streets) to start my studies at university :)
So unless one of you takes initiative to ask for mods (I don't expect you to) this thread will be a bit dead for a short while

Will continue to edit my diffs and start asking for mods again when I've settled inn :)
shurito1sao
94 posts
Joined January 2015
shurito1sao
Rocket's Easy
to hard 00:43:701 - untill 00:44:848 -
easy.. stacks...? dont never use that in a easy 00:52:626 -
why the unnecessary red lines?
Normal
try to let this point to the next hit circle something like this http://puu.sh/jLDT4/ea7337d89a.jpg
dont use to much stacks over here 01:08:138 - untill 01:11:314 - a stack again 01:21:196 - try not to use much stacks.
Chamue's Hard
this one is a bit to hard 00:38:318 - untill 00:39:024 -
blankets are sometimes a bit off 01:14:402 -
Insane
00:39:907 - ? this jump is just to hard for a 4,06 star map try something like http://puu.sh/jLEjW/f72f11694b.jpg
jump to hard 01:21:549 -
UltraRik's insane
why the unnecessary red lines?
blanket a bit off 00:29:310 -
cl8n's insane
blanket is a bit off 00:57:530 -



Good luck with getting your map ranked ;)
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

shurito1sao wrote:

Mod
Normal
try to let this point to the next hit circle something like this http://puu.sh/jLDT4/ea7337d89a.jpg Nice, thank you :) Fixed some similar issues elsewhere aswell
dont use to much stacks over here 01:08:138 - untill 01:11:314 - a stack again 01:21:196 - try not to use much stacks.
Insane
00:39:907 - ? this jump is just to hard for a 4,06 star map try something like http://puu.sh/jLEjW/f72f11694b.jpg Yeah, I decreased the jump, however I didn't want to change the direction of the jump, just the length, so it difers from your suggestion
jump to hard 01:21:549 - That's supposed to be climax of the map, so I'll be keeping it for now



Good luck with getting your map ranked ;)
Thank you for the mod :D
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik

shurito1sao wrote:

UltraRik's insane
why the unnecessary red lines? - What lines? Timing should be the same in all diffs xD
blanket a bit off 00:29:310 - I think it's fine tho, not meant to be a blanket
I could remap this a thousand times and not get tired of the song
Changed some things
osu file format v14

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DeletedUser_4329079
What about adding a note at 00:52:891 on cl8n's Extra? I can clearly hear a beat there.


I also highly recomment to change OD to 8 on Ultrarik's Insane as 7 is too low for its star rating.
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik

Default wrote:

What about adding a note at 00:52:891 on cl8n's Extra? I can clearly hear a beat there.

Cl8n has been banned. Not sure what to do with that note, or the enitre diff lol

I also highly recomment to change OD to 8 on Ultrarik's Insane as 7 is too low for its star rating.

I can't play OD 8 :( I think 7 is fine, I might go for 7.5 in max. I believe that drain should be same or higher than OD,
I always map like that.
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

UltraRik wrote:

Default wrote:

What about adding a note at 00:52:891 on cl8n's Extra? I can clearly hear a beat there.

Cl8n has been banned. Not sure what to do with that note, or the enitre diff lol

I also highly recomment to change OD to 8 on Ultrarik's Insane as 7 is too low for its star rating.

I can't play OD 8 :( I think 7 is fine, I might go for 7.5 in max. I believe that drain should be same or higher than OD,
I always map like that.
I asked #modhelp a few days ago and they said that Cl8n could continue to work on the difficulty and send updates to me via something else then Osu. So I've added Cl8n on Skype and he can send updates and replies via me when we get more mods :)

PS: If I understand Cl8n's mapping style then ignoring the beat at 00:52:891 was on purpose, it's not that impactfull, in that case there's other notes in that area which would be more important to emphasize.
guineaQ
1,588 posts
Joined December 2013
guineaQ
what the hell is up with all these timing points
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

guineaQ wrote:

what the hell is up with all these timing points
I guess we should have a section on the main post explaining this: Check monstrata's mapset of the same song. He and Goldenwolf timed the mapset to fit the uneven timing of the song, because the drummer didn't use a metronome when they recorded the song.
PS: I'm super busy with uni atm, I'll try to get some time to work on the mapset soon :)
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik

guineaQ wrote:

what the hell is up with all these timing points
The map felt better with old timing imo
*GLASS SHATTERING*
Since monstrata's map is ranked we should assume it's the correct timing?
guineaQ
1,588 posts
Joined December 2013
guineaQ

PurpleHawk wrote:

I guess we should have a section on the main post explaining this: Check monstrata's mapset of the same song. He and Goldenwolf timed the mapset to fit the uneven timing of the song, because the drummer didn't use a metronome when they recorded the song.
PS: I'm super busy with uni atm, I'll try to get some time to work on the mapset soon :)

UltraRik wrote:

The map felt better with old timing imo
*GLASS SHATTERING*
Since monstrata's map is ranked we should assume it's the correct timing?
If the drummer isn't using a metronome, then there isn't really ANY reliable timing you could "steal" / "borrow" unless you steal the mp3+timing altogether
you have to take in account of computer sound card, human hearing differences, headphones they are using, etc etc

it's pretty common to see ~ +-5 offset errors in ranked mapsets, also I do remember having one of my ranked mapset having messed up timing and it still got ranked with that kind of flawed timing (there were like 1~5ms errors in the intro drums in certain parts, basically inaudible but still).

Did you guys also take the mp3 from monstrata's set as well?
If not, the current timing shouldn't work at all for your mp3

For cases like this, fixing the mp3 or spamming uninherited timing point is a way to go (both choices suck btw)... but I don't think this song really needs this many uninherited timing points as far as I can remember when I was mapping this
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

guineaQ wrote:

PurpleHawk wrote:

I guess we should have a section on the main post explaining this: Check monstrata's mapset of the same song. He and Goldenwolf timed the mapset to fit the uneven timing of the song, because the drummer didn't use a metronome when they recorded the song.
PS: I'm super busy with uni atm, I'll try to get some time to work on the mapset soon :)

UltraRik wrote:

The map felt better with old timing imo
*GLASS SHATTERING*
Since monstrata's map is ranked we should assume it's the correct timing?
If the drummer isn't using a metronome, then there isn't really ANY reliable timing you could "steal" / "borrow" unless you steal the mp3+timing altogether
you have to take in account of computer sound card, human hearing differences, headphones they are using, etc etc

it's pretty common to see ~ +-5 offset errors in ranked mapsets, also I do remember having one of my ranked mapset having messed up timing and it still got ranked with that kind of flawed timing (there were like 1~5ms errors in the intro drums in certain parts, basically inaudible but still).

Did you guys also take the mp3 from monstrata's set as well?
If not, the current timing shouldn't work at all for your mp3

For cases like this, fixing the mp3 or spamming uninherited timing point is a way to go (both choices suck btw)... but I don't think this song really needs this many uninherited timing points as far as I can remember when I was mapping this
We didn't take monstrata's mp3, because imo his mp3 sounded quite heavily compressed. So since I'm assuming his mp3 is simply a cut and re-process of the same recording we simply did a global offset on all the timingpoints. It might've been a completely different recording, but unfortunetly I can't notice rhythmic inconsistencies well enough with my lack of experience playing instruments/playing in a band. So help would definitely be appreciated, I'm just assuming that going with a timing-set that has been ranked was the best alternative compared to timing it myself, especially when monstrata personally recommended to use his timing points.

Cl8n (over skype -> PurpleHawk) wrote:

shurito1sao wrote:

cl8n's insane
blanket is a bit off 00:57:530 -
not really meant to be a blanket, the next slider is supposed to drop off from the first (I guess it ends pretty close to a blanket, but that wasn't intentional)

Default wrote:

What about adding a note at 00:52:891 on cl8n's Extra? I can clearly hear a beat there.
done

sent update, changed ar from 9 -> 9.3 and changed the slow section before the kiai a bit.
jawns
109 posts
Joined October 2013
jawns
Uhm, hi! So i am very new to modding, but i think i would take a look at this. Sorry if i say something stupid!

UltraRik's Insane
00:12:389 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the rhythm in this section seems a bit odd at times. This is because there is a drum in the song, that almost plays a 2/3 clave rhythm, whereas the rhythm of the map is a straight up 1/8 rhythm (pictured below). This is also the case for the following measures.
your rhythm
They rhythm of the drum
As you can see, you have a note on the 4th beat (arrows), where the drum has a beat slightly before the 4th beat (also arrows). This makes it so the two rhythms are a bit out of sync, which is weird.
A way you could do the rhythm, could be like this:

However, as you can see, i had to remove a few notes, and this doesn't really fit with the pattern you've made, so if you have to change this, you probably have to change the entire section.
This might only be a small issue for most people, and if that's the case, you can leave it as it is, but for me, i had a hard time following the rhythm in that section, for the reasons mentioned above (even though a straight up 1/8 rhythm should be simple).

Anyway, that's all i have for now, since i spend quite a lot of time on this. Hopefully it was helpful. I liked the map overall, don't really have any other complaints.
I'll try to look at the other difficulties later.
Btw, i liked the way you changed what instrument the rhythm is following at 00:29:310 (4) - and 00:33:192 (1,2) - It seemed very natural ^^
Dazardz
55 posts
Joined June 2014
Dazardz
M4M! Sorry for the wait, but I managed to get it done in the end (thank weekends for giving you so much free time). Here you go!

Note: The timing in this map seems a bit weird from 00:11:00 to 00:23:00 for all difficulties. I don't know if this is the mapper's fault or just that the song has a tough BPM to follow but I thought it'd like to point this out.

[Easy]

00:43:701 (1,2) - Massive error here with the note timing. It's not in the right place, but this is obviously an accident that probably happened after you changed the timing of the map.

00:39:907 (1,2,3) - The hitsounds on these notes sound really inconsistent. I don't know if it's because it's not finished, but maybe these hitsounds could be adjusted to so that it has a steady beat and isn't randomly thrown in there.

01:04:608 (3) - This circle needs a clap to begin the beat that is created a few hitcircles after this one.

00:22:265 (1) - This spinner ends at a really weird spot. Maybe it's supposed to end at the next white tick?

[Normal]

00:18:736 (2,3) I don't think the slider here is suitable for normal difficulty. The beat is too weird to adjust to yet the beat should be consistent throughout the entire difficulty for something with as little stars as this. Same goes for 0:20:147 (5) and 00:21:559 (8)

--- Be sure to keep the distance snapping similar throughout the difficulty too. Compare the difference between 00:43:436 (2) to 00:44:142 (3). Now think about the distance between the two sliders after (00:44:142 (3) to 00:44:848 (4)). You should consider moving around one of the sliders I mentioned in order to make the distance similar.

00:12:389 (1) - Does this start a little late?

00:17:147 (4,5,6,1) - I think the difficulty spikes a little too much here and 01:13:079 (3,4,5,6,1) Too many quick sliders in a row. Same for 00:22:794 (2,3,4,1)

--- I'm not too sure about the whole section from 00:46:260 (1) to 00:57:201 (5). There is a rhythm for the first half of it, and then it repeats again. However, your hitcircles and sliders to not copy the same beat in the second half that the first half of this section did. Understand? You went from this: 00:47:671 (3,4,5) to fit the rhythm to doing 00:52:979 (3,4,5) to the rhythm. This would throw off the player, this is only normal difficulty after all.

[Insane]

00:48:388 (6,1) - The distance between this hitcircle and slider is way too big compared to the time they're snapped at. It might just be that you've let the slider go for too long, because it does end at a weird point. Maybe shorten that slider a bit?

01:17:314 (1) - It could be better to turn this into a slider. The sudden gap between the hitcircle after it is very off putting and it seems random too, so I think it could be better if the gap was somehow removed (via turning the hitcircle I selected into the slider or other method)

01:21:196 (1,2,1,2) - If I'm honest, the jumps here seem really random or rushed. For something like insane difficulty, it's usually important that each jump has equal spacing. These spacing between these jumps are really unequal though.

00:34:074 (1,2,3) - I can't hear any rhythm in the song that matches the rhythm in this song. The slider starts too late, and the first hitcircle may not even belong there. This could be fixed by removing that first hitcircle and putting the slider in it's place.

[UltraRik's Insane]

- This one doesn't contain the video, is there a reason for that?

- A major problem with this difficulty is the hitcircles everywhere and lack of sliders. I can't go pointing out all of them otherwise my mod would be TOO repetitive. If you look through your difficulty and compare it to other ranked maps, you should be able to notice what I mean.

00:12:741 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - This is honestly way too many hitcircles in a row. Some sliders need to be put in there because right now it looks like a bunch of rushed jumps.

00:16:089 (6) - Seems to be randomly put in there and doesn't go very well with the song.

00:18:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The finish hitsounds seem kind of random too? I don't think it should be there, but the actual jumps are fine.

00:22:265 (5,6,7) - Clap hitsounds are REALLY random, and the triple hitcircles don't match the song anyway. The hitsounds should be removed for sure though.

01:05:138 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - More random hitsounds...

01:07:432 (6,7,8) - Another random triple that doesn't match the beat. Same could be said for 01:10:961 (1,2,3)

01:21:196 (5) - Random triple slider that doesn't match the beat. 01:22:255 (2,3) - Here too.

- The chorus overall has too many gaps between hitcircles and sliders, yet the hitcircles and sliders are supposed to be consistent.

- I'm almost certain my mod isn't complete for this difficulty, but I think it'd be best to mod it again once you've cleaned it up a bit. I do sound harsh, but I'm not sure it can be ranked like this.

[Cl8n's Extra]

- A lot of the jumps in this difficulty are random and while the actual song doesn't really suggest a jump. An example is, 00:50:858 (5,6,7,8,9,10). It looks as if you have just placed a bunch of random hitcircles all over the screen, but if you wanted it to match the song, the circles should be closer together for this part.

01:13:255 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - What's the reason for the big spacing here? Just because it's an extra difficulty? I don't feel like it really suits.

- I'm not sure if the mapper for this difficulty has any experience with this many stars, because the map seems to be full of hitcircles placed far apart to force it to be difficult. Examples: 00:36:907 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1). 00:39:907 (1,2,3,4). 00:50:858 (5,6,7,8,9,10). 01:05:491 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4). 01:09:197 (2,3,4,5,6). 01:10:785 (3,4,5,6,7,1). All of it just feels rushed and I think it'd like to mod this difficulty when this problem is fixed. Sorry if I may sound harsh, but I don't think it can be ranked in this state.
Kyozoru
334 posts
Joined August 2015
Kyozoru
Rocket's Easy
1: I think the slider in 00:43:701 should be in 00:43:436
2: The Slider in 00:22:265 should start at 00:22:089 and end in 00:23:663
That's all for the easy diff
Chamue's Hard
1: i think you should erase that hit circle in 00:58:766
Insane
1: Put 1 hit circles on 00:01:787 and on 00:03:198 and on 00:06:022 to make it more noticed
2: Maybe put the spinner on on 01:25:961 to 01:27:184 and end in 01:28:266
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

Dazardz wrote:

M4M! Sorry for the wait, but I managed to get it done in the end (thank weekends for giving you so much free time). Here you go!

Note: The timing in this map seems a bit weird from 00:11:00 to 00:23:00 for all difficulties. I don't know if this is the mapper's fault or just that the song has a tough BPM to follow but I thought it'd like to point this out.
Yeah, we've had quite a lot of issues with the timing of the song, the current timing is ranked in monstrata's mapset of the same song though, so we're sticking with this.

[Normal]

00:18:736 (2,3) I don't think the slider here is suitable for normal difficulty. The beat is too weird to adjust to yet the beat should be consistent throughout the entire difficulty for something with as little stars as this. Same goes for 0:20:147 (5) and 00:21:559 (8)
Agree, fixed

--- Be sure to keep the distance snapping similar throughout the difficulty too. Compare the difference between 00:43:436 (2) to 00:44:142 (3). Now think about the distance between the two sliders after (00:44:142 (3) to 00:44:848 (4)). You should consider moving around one of the sliders I mentioned in order to make the distance similar.
Yupp, done

00:12:389 (1) - Does this start a little late? I don't think so?

00:17:147 (4,5,6,1) - I think the difficulty spikes a little too much here and 01:13:079 (3,4,5,6,1) Too many quick sliders in a row. Same for 00:22:794 (2,3,4,1) - Yes, the difficulties do spike at those places, but I think that it's fitting for those places to be "climaxes" of the map.

--- I'm not too sure about the whole section from 00:46:260 (1) to 00:57:201 (5). There is a rhythm for the first half of it, and then it repeats again. However, your hitcircles and sliders to not copy the same beat in the second half that the first half of this section did. Understand? You went from this: 00:47:671 (3,4,5) to fit the rhythm to doing 00:52:979 (3,4,5) to the rhythm. This would throw off the player, this is only normal difficulty after all.
Yeah, I've done quite a few adjustments

[Insane]

00:48:388 (6,1) - The distance between this hitcircle and slider is way too big compared to the time they're snapped at. It might just be that you've let the slider go for too long, because it does end at a weird point. Maybe shorten that slider a bit?
Whops, yeah I recently changed that part, I lengthed the slider to be 1/1 and deleted the circle :)

01:17:314 (1) - It could be better to turn this into a slider. The sudden gap between the hitcircle after it is very off putting and it seems random too, so I think it could be better if the gap was somehow removed (via turning the hitcircle I selected into the slider or other method)
Yeah, fixed :)

01:21:196 (1,2,1,2) - If I'm honest, the jumps here seem really random or rushed. For something like insane difficulty, it's usually important that each jump has equal spacing. These spacing between these jumps are really unequal though.
Decreased the mentioned jump, but I'll be looking at making the rest of the Kiaitime more consistent aswell

00:34:074 (1,2,3) - I can't hear any rhythm in the song that matches the rhythm in this song. The slider starts too late, and the first hitcircle may not even belong there. This could be fixed by removing that first hitcircle and putting the slider in it's place.
Changed the use of the beats to a slider and 2 hitcircles, but it's the guitar that's playing on these notes

Thank you for the mod :D


from Cl8n-

[Cl8n's Extra]

- A lot of the jumps in this difficulty are random and while the actual song doesn't really suggest a jump. An example is, 00:50:858 (5,6,7,8,9,10). It looks as if you have just placed a bunch of random hitcircles all over the screen, but if you wanted it to match the song, the circles should be closer together for this part. fixed on a lot of parts.

01:13:255 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - What's the reason for the big spacing here? Just because it's an extra difficulty? I don't feel like it really suits. i think it matches the rest of the kiai just fine.

- I'm not sure if the mapper for this difficulty has any experience with this many stars, because the map seems to be full of hitcircles placed far apart to force it to be difficult. Examples: 00:36:907 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1). fixed. 00:39:907 (1,2,3,4). 00:50:858 (5,6,7,8,9,10). fixed. 01:05:491 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4). no change. 01:09:197 (2,3,4,5,6). no change. 01:10:785 (3,4,5,6,7,1). fixed. All of it just feels rushed and I think it'd like to mod this difficulty when this problem is fixed. Sorry if I may sound harsh, but I don't think it can be ranked in this state. i don't think they are unrankable in any way. the song itself does not dictate the difficulty of a map, that is just your own interpretation (and as such, mine is different from yours).
thanks!
HappyRocket88
4,322 posts
Joined May 2014
HappyRocket88

Dazardz wrote:

[Easy]

00:43:701 (1,2) - Massive error here with the note timing. It's not in the right place, but this is obviously an accident that probably happened after you changed the timing of the map. OMG! I didn't notice it! xD Fixed babe!

00:39:907 (1,2,3) - The hitsounds on these notes sound really inconsistent. I don't know if it's because it's not finished, but maybe these hitsounds could be adjusted to so that it has a steady beat and isn't randomly thrown in there. If you listen to them carefully, they fit with the song and the vocals because those are 1/1 claps. It would be randomly places if they were whistles or finishes. xd

01:04:608 (3) - This circle needs a clap to begin the beat that is created a few hit-circles after this one. Oh! Nais Catch! Fixed! _:3_>_

00:22:265 (1) - This spinner ends at a really weird spot. Maybe it's supposed to end at the next white tick? It makes placing it over the white big tick. B U T I can't do that because it would go against the current rule of give 1000ms over an easy. t/241019

Kyozoru wrote:

[Rocket's Easy]1: I think the slider in 00:43:701 should be in 00:43:436 yeah... fixed in the previous mod. _:3_>_
2: The Slider in 00:22:265 should start at 00:22:089 and end in 00:23:663 I made it started here 00:22:089 as you suggested, but I made it end here 00:23:500 fue consistency with this rule t/241019
That's all for the easy diff
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PurpleHawk
I suggest you to open Modding Assitant tool since there are a lot of unrankable issues in the mapset. Some of them reside on:
  1. Difficulties that are missing of the video: Cl8n's Extra, Ultrarik's Insane.
  2. Inconsistency in video offset: It should be -15 in the whole set. Chamue's Hard.
  3. Unused files: normal-hitclap.wav, soft-hitclap.wav, soft-hitwhistle.wav.
  4. Hitsound with a possible delay over 5ms: normal-hitclap5.wav. this can be fixed with audicity.
  5. Inconsistency on kiai times: Chamue's Hard and Normal: The sixth kiai which starts here 01:02:837 should end here 01:02:837 in all difficulties.
  6. Unnecessary green lines among difficulties.
    Normal
    00:23:663
    Chamue's Hard
    01:03:197

    Make sure to have the same Sample set and same Volumen % over these lines:
    00:01:060
    00:11:675
    00:12:389
    00:13:795
    00:23:663
    00:34:966
    00:57:530
    01:03:197
    01:27:184
    Insane
    00:57:530
    00:58:241
    00:58:941
    00:59:662

    Unsnapped Green lines:
    00:12:354 should be snapped to 00:12:380
    00:55:373 ^ 00:55:355
    UltraRik's Insane
    Unsnapped slider's ends
    00:22:753
    00:23:106
    00:23:459
    01:28:627
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

Kyozoru wrote:

Insane
1: Put 1 hit circles on 00:01:787 and on 00:03:198 and on 00:06:022 to make it more noticed
I'm following the sound of the piano here :)
2: Maybe put the spinner on on 01:25:961 to 01:27:184 and end in 01:28:266
I prefer it the way it is :) (having the impact of the final note on a single circle)
Thank you for the mod :)

HappyRocket88 wrote:

I AM A CELLPHONE CALL ME IN WAZZAP
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PurpleHawk
I suggest you to open Modding Assitant tool since there are a lot of unrankable issues in the mapset. Some of them reside on:
  1. Difficulties that are missing of the video: Cl8n's Extra, Ultrarik's Insane.
  2. Inconsistency in video offset: It should be -15 in the whole set. Chamue's Hard.
  3. Unused files: normal-hitclap.wav, soft-hitclap.wav, soft-hitwhistle.wav.
  4. Hitsound with a possible delay over 5ms: normal-hitclap5.wav. this can be fixed with audicity.
  5. Inconsistency on kiai times: Chamue's Hard and Normal: The sixth kiai which starts here 01:02:837 should end here 01:02:837 in all difficulties.
  6. Unnecessary green lines among difficulties.
    Normal
    00:23:663
    Chamue's Hard
    01:03:197

    Make sure to have the same Sample set and same Volumen % over these lines:
    00:01:060
    00:11:675
    00:12:389
    00:13:795
    00:23:663
    00:34:966
    00:57:530
    01:03:197
    01:27:184
    Insane
    00:57:530
    00:58:241
    00:58:941
    00:59:662

    Unsnapped Green lines:
    00:12:354 should be snapped to 00:12:380
    00:55:373 ^ 00:55:355
    UltraRik's Insane
    Unsnapped slider's ends
    00:22:753
    00:23:106
    00:23:459
    01:28:627
Thank you for the awesome mod HappyRocket :D I've fixed all of the issues except for Chamue's Hard and the "Difficulty Strains" part of the software you linked was awesome :D I used it to find a flaw in a speed-spike in my Insane so it should play better now :)
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik
Modder quotes

jawns wrote:

Uhm, hi! So i am very new to modding, but i think i would take a look at this. Sorry if i say something stupid!

UltraRik's Insane
00:12:389 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the rhythm in this section seems a bit odd at times. This is because there is a drum in the song, that almost plays a 2/3 clave rhythm, whereas the rhythm of the map is a straight up 1/8 rhythm (pictured below). This is also the case for the following measures.
your rhythm
They rhythm of the drum
As you can see, you have a note on the 4th beat (arrows), where the drum has a beat slightly before the 4th beat (also arrows). This makes it so the two rhythms are a bit out of sync, which is weird.
A way you could do the rhythm, could be like this:

However, as you can see, i had to remove a few notes, and this doesn't really fit with the pattern you've made, so if you have to change this, you probably have to change the entire section.
This might only be a small issue for most people, and if that's the case, you can leave it as it is, but for me, i had a hard time following the rhythm in that section, for the reasons mentioned above (even though a straight up 1/8 rhythm should be simple).

Anyway, that's all i have for now, since i spend quite a lot of time on this. Hopefully it was helpful. I liked the map overall, don't really have any other complaints.
I'll try to look at the other difficulties later.
Btw, i liked the way you changed what instrument the rhythm is following at 00:29:310 (4) - and 00:33:192 (1,2) - It seemed very natural ^^

Dazardz wrote:

[UltraRik's Insane]

- This one doesn't contain the video, is there a reason for that?

- A major problem with this difficulty is the hitcircles everywhere and lack of sliders. I can't go pointing out all of them otherwise my mod would be TOO repetitive. If you look through your difficulty and compare it to other ranked maps, you should be able to notice what I mean.

00:12:741 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - This is honestly way too many hitcircles in a row. Some sliders need to be put in there because right now it looks like a bunch of rushed jumps.

00:16:089 (6) - Seems to be randomly put in there and doesn't go very well with the song.

00:18:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The finish hitsounds seem kind of random too? I don't think it should be there, but the actual jumps are fine.

00:22:265 (5,6,7) - Clap hitsounds are REALLY random, and the triple hitcircles don't match the song anyway. The hitsounds should be removed for sure though.

01:05:138 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - More random hitsounds...

01:07:432 (6,7,8) - Another random triple that doesn't match the beat. Same could be said for 01:10:961 (1,2,3)

01:21:196 (5) - Random triple slider that doesn't match the beat. 01:22:255 (2,3) - Here too.

- The chorus overall has too many gaps between hitcircles and sliders, yet the hitcircles and sliders are supposed to be consistent.

- I'm almost certain my mod isn't complete for this difficulty, but I think it'd be best to mod it again once you've cleaned it up a bit. I do sound harsh, but I'm not sure it can be ranked like this.
I hope the new update fixes all of your problems.

PurpleHawk
THERE'S A DRUMBEAT ON 00:52:891 - AND IT'S A BLUE TICK, WHY IS THAT, IS THE TIMING OFF HERE, WHAT IS LIFE?

UltraRik's Insane
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PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
Topic Starter
PurpleHawk

UltraRik wrote:

Modder quotes

jawns wrote:

Uhm, hi! So i am very new to modding, but i think i would take a look at this. Sorry if i say something stupid!

UltraRik's Insane
00:12:389 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the rhythm in this section seems a bit odd at times. This is because there is a drum in the song, that almost plays a 2/3 clave rhythm, whereas the rhythm of the map is a straight up 1/8 rhythm (pictured below). This is also the case for the following measures.
your rhythm
They rhythm of the drum
As you can see, you have a note on the 4th beat (arrows), where the drum has a beat slightly before the 4th beat (also arrows). This makes it so the two rhythms are a bit out of sync, which is weird.
A way you could do the rhythm, could be like this:

However, as you can see, i had to remove a few notes, and this doesn't really fit with the pattern you've made, so if you have to change this, you probably have to change the entire section.
This might only be a small issue for most people, and if that's the case, you can leave it as it is, but for me, i had a hard time following the rhythm in that section, for the reasons mentioned above (even though a straight up 1/8 rhythm should be simple).

Anyway, that's all i have for now, since i spend quite a lot of time on this. Hopefully it was helpful. I liked the map overall, don't really have any other complaints.
I'll try to look at the other difficulties later.
Btw, i liked the way you changed what instrument the rhythm is following at 00:29:310 (4) - and 00:33:192 (1,2) - It seemed very natural ^^

Dazardz wrote:

[UltraRik's Insane]

- This one doesn't contain the video, is there a reason for that?

- A major problem with this difficulty is the hitcircles everywhere and lack of sliders. I can't go pointing out all of them otherwise my mod would be TOO repetitive. If you look through your difficulty and compare it to other ranked maps, you should be able to notice what I mean.

00:12:741 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - This is honestly way too many hitcircles in a row. Some sliders need to be put in there because right now it looks like a bunch of rushed jumps.

00:16:089 (6) - Seems to be randomly put in there and doesn't go very well with the song.

00:18:030 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The finish hitsounds seem kind of random too? I don't think it should be there, but the actual jumps are fine.

00:22:265 (5,6,7) - Clap hitsounds are REALLY random, and the triple hitcircles don't match the song anyway. The hitsounds should be removed for sure though.

01:05:138 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - More random hitsounds...

01:07:432 (6,7,8) - Another random triple that doesn't match the beat. Same could be said for 01:10:961 (1,2,3)

01:21:196 (5) - Random triple slider that doesn't match the beat. 01:22:255 (2,3) - Here too.

- The chorus overall has too many gaps between hitcircles and sliders, yet the hitcircles and sliders are supposed to be consistent.

- I'm almost certain my mod isn't complete for this difficulty, but I think it'd be best to mod it again once you've cleaned it up a bit. I do sound harsh, but I'm not sure it can be ranked like this.
I hope the new update fixes all of your problems.

PurpleHawk
THERE'S A DRUMBEAT ON 00:52:891 - AND IT'S A BLUE TICK, WHY IS THAT, IS THE TIMING OFF HERE, WHAT IS LIFE?
Well, the timing could maybe have been offset a 1/2 beat, but that wouldn't change the start on blue tick, so no I don't think it's a mistake. The blue tick sounds like a "roll-onto" the next note on the white tick. It's not that strong of a note though, so you don't need to map it.

UltraRik's Insane
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LanJay
LanJay
Hi hi! I'm new to modding so this is just my opinion as someone who plays a lot of TV Size. :) :)
Cl8n's Extra
00:32:133 - I suggest putting a triple beat circle here and the 3rd one being a slider
00:32:839 - I suggest removing this circle or lengthen the slider that comes before this circle.
01:15:726-01:16:255 - suggest putting a triple beat circle and the 3rd one being a reverse slider.

Normal
01:03:902-01:04:255 - This part plays out awkwardly for me, I suggest putting a slider at 01:03:902-01:04:079 and then a circle at 01:04:255
01:28:617 - I'd like a reverse slider for a finishing touch better :D :)

I really like this map ^^

Forgive me if I said something dumb :o
Haganenno
247 posts
Joined July 2014
Haganenno
[Rocket's Easy]

00:54:744 (1) - Snap it


[Normal]

00:53:156 (3) - Add a hitcircle, move upcoming sliders in the same combo 2/4 ahead and remove the last hitcircle. Overall plays better and sounds better.
01:14:138 (6) - I would change this slider to two hitcircles so the climax of the song would feel more powerful and more challenging for new players, it's highly subjective though.

[UltraRik's Insane]

00:48:035 (5) - Add a hitcircle. Plays so well and goes along with the rhythm.
00:48:035 (5) - Same.
00:22:971 (1) - Snap it! No reason to not snap it 00:23:324 (2) - is snapped

[Cl8n's Extra]

00:13:359 (7) - If you clap this, then clap 00:12:653 (3) - this too
00:16:177 (7) - If you clap this, then clap 00:15:471 (3) - this too
Overall, play with claps at the clappy part. Claps are awesome, but only if done systematically correct. I tried to play a bit and putting claps on only 00:17:236 (5,9,13) - turned out to sound much more powerful and better than 00:17:059 (3,9,12) - The whole clap problem can be felt throughout 00:12:380 (1) - 00:23:589 (14) -
01:08:138 (4) - I'd put a triple there with a clap on the 3rd hitcircle of the triple.
01:09:902 (6) - Triple with a clap on the 1st hitcircle of the triple..These triples would build up the momentum for the upcoming stream and won't let the player relax on such an awesome part!
Once again, claps must be systemised on the stream. Claps on 01:13:432 (4,6,8,10) - proved to sound better. No need for claps on 01:13:255 (2,3) - this is still the easier part of the stream and no need for claps there.

[General Thoughts]

I love the song and I love the beatmaps, they all prove to be energetic and just go well with the music. I hope it gets ranked soon! :D
UltraRik
202 posts
Joined June 2014
UltraRik

Haganenno wrote:

[UltraRik's Insane]

00:48:035 (5) - Add a hitcircle. Plays so well and goes along with the rhythm. theres a note there already
00:48:035 (5) - Same. ^same (the same note lol)
00:22:971 (1) - Snap it! No reason to not snap it 00:23:324 (2) - is snapped oopsie ok

[General Thoughts]

I love the song and I love the beatmaps, they all prove to be energetic and just go well with the music. I hope it gets ranked soon! :D

I added cicrlces where I think they should be (where I hope you wanted me to)
And changed some DS stuff, fixed symetrical shapes.
Beatmap is graveyard omygod
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 62837
Countdown: 0
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Kotoba no Iranai Yakusoku (TV size)
TitleUnicode:言葉のいらない約束 (TV size)
Artist:sana
ArtistUnicode:sana
Creator:PurpleHawk
Version:UltraRik's Insane
Source:NARUTO - ナルト - 疾風伝
Tags:shippuden ending ed 33 ultrarik chamue cl8n honeyworks happyrocket88
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CircleSize:3.6
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