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DragonForce - Defenders [Taiko]

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Raiden
fixed most everything except the slow parts and some on the stream

i regret nothing
OzzyOzrock
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18:40 OzzyOzrock: 04:09:128 (130) - should this be k
18:40 OzzyOzrock: it shouldnt
18:40 Raiden: if i followed strictly guitar yes
18:40 Raiden: butttttttttttttttttt
18:40 Raiden: erscotch
18:41 OzzyOzrock: why is it 1/3
18:41 OzzyOzrock: im crying
18:41 Raiden: tried 1/4
18:41 Raiden: tested 155335 times
18:41 Raiden: it sounds hideous
18:41 Raiden: terrible
18:41 Raiden: 1/3 is most accurate
18:41 Raiden: ask charles
18:41 Raiden: the guitarist maybe dumbass...
18:41 OzzyOzrock: I FOUND IT
18:41 OzzyOzrock: http://puu.sh/m8L2J/d4f61553b8.jpg
18:41 OzzyOzrock: IT IS BEST
18:42 Raiden: a
18:42 Raiden: then it IS 1/3
18:42 OzzyOzrock: eat dirt
18:42 Raiden: what if i
18:42 Raiden: snap to 1/6
18:43 OzzyOzrock: ur a madman
18:43 Raiden: 33 and 34
18:43 Raiden: are 1/6
18:43 Raiden: what the fuck guitarist
18:44 OzzyOzrock: ok let's forget anything happened because its MORE FUCKED UP
18:44 Raiden: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4206813
18:45 Raiden: this is actually the "correct"
18:45 Raiden: but it's so hideous
18:45 OzzyOzrock: undo
18:45 Raiden: the guitarist surely is dumb
18:45 Raiden: ofc
18:45 Raiden: not gonna let that slip through ranked
18:45 OzzyOzrock: we can blame charles or whatever you said
18:45 Raiden: i have a slight sense of decency
18:45 Raiden: as much as it appears i dont...
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470
18:46 OzzyOzrock: ...
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470-
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470--
18:46 OzzyOzrock: 04:55:470))!
18:46 OzzyOzrock: (((04:55:470))
18:46 OzzyOzrock: fucking work
18:46 OzzyOzrock: you shitty editor
18:46 Raiden: jesus
18:46 Raiden: dead
18:46 Raiden: for glamour
18:46 Raiden: by*
18:46 OzzyOzrock: anyways k goes there like where i mentioned before 3 times
18:46 Raiden: lets map omega flower
18:47 Raiden: laugh as 1/16 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
18:47 OzzyOzrock: backfiref dd,....
18:47 OzzyOzrock: o
18:47 Raiden: for ol good ddkk players
18:48 Raiden: oo
18:48 Raiden: add
18:48 Raiden: for the sake of mapping hard
18:48 OzzyOzrock: 05:16:075 (75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - this kd dkkd is oversaturated,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
18:48 Raiden: not becuase it sounds good or anything.
18:48 Raiden: oversaturated
18:48 Raiden: is my ass
18:49 OzzyOzrock: 05:21:287 (131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138) - and this one sucks toooOOOOOO
18:49 OzzyOzrock: but its probably consistent with somehting..
18:49 Raiden: yes
18:49 Raiden: 2 even pattern
18:49 OzzyOzrock: yeah
18:49 Raiden: s
18:49 Raiden: so the hand goes back again to dominant
18:49 Raiden: for you singletap fags
18:50 OzzyOzrock: i mean that the other kiais have doubles there too
18:50 OzzyOzrock: smh
18:50 Raiden: i made
18:50 Raiden: this one harder
18:50 Raiden: as you rquested dear sir,,,
18:52 OzzyOzrock: 05:32:022 (243,244,245,246,247) - make this not naked
18:52 OzzyOzrock: !
18:53 Raiden: SHIT
18:53 Raiden: dkddk
18:54 OzzyOzrock: aaaaaaand uhhhhhhh 05:34:549 (270,271,272,273,274) - ddkkddk!!!!
18:54 OzzyOzrock: because
18:54 OzzyOzrock: streams and then
18:54 OzzyOzrock: ddk
18:54 OzzyOzrock: suddenly 3.8* -_---__
18:55 Raiden: why not!!!
18:55 OzzyOzrock: lmfao
18:55 OzzyOzrock: andthen done
18:55 OzzyOzrock: because
18:55 OzzyOzrock: im gonna go be anoerxic
18:55 Raiden: need 95 mre notes
18:56 OzzyOzrock: holy fuck this has nothing compared to FotS
18:56 OzzyOzrock: lmfao
Bubble #2!
MMzz
Qualified!
Spaghetti
CONGRATS BAE
Okoratu
tags are overrated anyways, congrats :D
OzzyOzrock

Okoratu wrote:

tags are overrated anyways, congrats :D
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Yuzeyun


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Topic Starter
Raiden
holy hell i surely did not expect this lol

Okoratu wrote:

tags are overrated anyways, congrats :D
well not like they can't find this if they type "dragonforce"

C:
Bara-
Gratz!
-Sh1n1-
yeah *-*/ you are so pro :3 Gratz
Topic Starter
Raiden

Baraatje123 wrote:

Gratz!

-Sh1n1- wrote:

yeah *-*/ you are so pro :3 Gratz
ty<3
snz
:o
Topic Starter
Raiden
spaghetti marry me
Charlotte
Gratz :)
snz

Charlotte wrote:

Gratz :)
qoot8123
Hi, raiden o/
pretty solid map tbo, but I have some concern about this map :

the snap on 04:19:233 - ~04:23:022 - is 1/3 but the guitar and drum doesn't provide any 1/3 elements on this part, I think just use 1/4+1/2 pattern is enough.

I needs other modder's opinion about the snap on 04:19:233 - ~04:23:022 -, seems nobody complain about this. :?
Nardoxyribonucleic

qoot8123 wrote:

Hi, raiden o/
pretty solid map tbo, but I have some concern about this map :

the snap on 04:19:233 - ~04:23:022 - is 1/3 but the guitar and drum doesn't provide any 1/3 elements on this part, I think just use 1/4+1/2 pattern is enough.

I needs other modder's opinion about the snap on 04:19:233 - ~04:23:022 -, seems nobody complain about this. :?
I have the same concern here. The 1/3 patterns are a bit out of place.
The guitar rhythm here is actually not constant and is not snapped at 1/3 imo, so it would be better to use 1/2 + 1/4 notes to follow the drums rather than the guitar here.
lolcubes
Checked these parts out:

04:20:496 - 04:23:022 - the guitar is clearly 1/3, but slightly offtime cause it's a guitar (you can tell due to the number of notes played though, and in a way they are played). Rather than the absolutely correct tick for every note (which would be something dumb like 1/12 or 1/16), it should be mapped as the melody was supposed to be, so this part is fine (though a 1/4 drumline does exist here from time to time). Take for example the very beginning, if you analyze the guitar it seems completely off-time, but it plays fine as it's creating a rhythm that's easily recognized as 1/2 due to the way it's played.

As for the notes before this, the only part that's a bit tricky are notes at 04:19:654 (37,38) - . The guitar is supposed to play 5 notes between the two beats (including the beats) so it should maybe be 3 notes here instead of 2 with the 1/4 snap, unlike other beats around it (where it's 4 although offtime). But that would be really awkward to play.

Gameplay-wise, I believe it's mapped fine as the subtle change in the guitar is not noticeable at 100% when normally listening without further analysis, and the flow of the map here seems fine, but if people disagree action should be taken I guess.
Topic Starter
Raiden
Had the discussion with MMzz and Ozzy. The guitar goes kinda loose indeed but snapping it to the most "accurate" timing would make it extremely awkward to play as it would mean snapping to weird 1/6 or 1/12 like lolcubes said, places mixed with other 1/3. Besides, the melody is quite well represented with the 1/3 pattern.

Also I firmly believe the guitar is more prominent this time than the drums so I decided to follow it.
qoot8123

Raiden wrote:

Had the discussion with MMzz and Ozzy. The guitar goes kinda loose indeed but snapping it to the most "accurate" timing would make it extremely awkward to play as it would mean snapping to weird 1/6 or 1/12 like lolcubes said, places mixed with other 1/3. Besides, the melody is quite well represented with the 1/3 pattern.

Also I firmly believe the guitar is more prominent this time than the drums so I decided to follow it.
Sounds reasonable(and lolcube siad), but at least 04:19:233 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - should follow the drum, because you followed drum on 04:18:286 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - and 04:20:338 (43,44,45) - but you followed guitar ( even 1/3 doesn't match the guitar ) between these two patterns. that may a bit inconsistent and lack of connection between 4:18:286 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - and 04:20:338 (43,44,45) -.
Topic Starter
Raiden

qoot8123 wrote:

Raiden wrote:

Had the discussion with MMzz and Ozzy. The guitar goes kinda loose indeed but snapping it to the most "accurate" timing would make it extremely awkward to play as it would mean snapping to weird 1/6 or 1/12 like lolcubes said, places mixed with other 1/3. Besides, the melody is quite well represented with the 1/3 pattern.

Also I firmly believe the guitar is more prominent this time than the drums so I decided to follow it.
Sounds reasonable(and lolcube siad), but at least 04:19:233 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - should follow the drum, because you followed drum on 04:18:286 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - and 04:20:338 (43,44,45) - but you followed guitar ( even 1/3 doesn't match the guitar ) between these two patterns. that may a bit inconsistent and lack of connection between 4:18:286 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - and 04:20:338 (43,44,45) -.
There is no inconsistency, the 1/3 guitar melody starts on 04:19:233 - so it is pointless to follow guitar on 04:18:286 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - , as the guitar melody is not so clear, so I decided to follow drums on that part.

The point at 04:20:338 (43,44,45) - is somewhat valid as 43 is representing a drum, but it is perfectly reasonable as starting on the 1/6th tick would play extremely awkward.

The connection between the two parts is well made, there is no lack of connection. In fact it is quite intuitive for the players.

edit: 1/3 matches the guitar, in every place.
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