Glee Cast - Jingle Bell Rock (Glee Cast Version) · forum

Raiden

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Raiden 2015-12-17T02:04:44+00:00

pro <3

Buttercup

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Buttercup 2015-12-17T02:30:38+00:00

grats uwu
merry christmas moe

Euny

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Euny 2015-12-17T03:12:52+00:00

♥♥ gratz Gero ♥♥

Asphyxia

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined June 2012

Asphyxia 2015-12-17T03:14:07+00:00

This is not the Christmas version of MASAYUME CHASING? I'm highly disappointed. Just joking, grats! =w=

Natsu

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Natsu 2015-12-17T03:16:29+00:00

Asphyxia wrote:
This is not the Christmas version of MASAYUME CHASING? I'm highly disappointed. Just joking, grats! =w=

lolololol Everyone knows lmao xD

Anyways gratz Gerito

Mint

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Mint 2015-12-17T07:47:15+00:00

Congrats!

Mao

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Mao 2015-12-17T11:47:27+00:00

Grats! :3

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2015-12-17T17:10:50+00:00

Gratzz~ <3

CSLM

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CSLM 2015-12-17T20:34:49+00:00

That was fast lol
Gratz

Mystyk

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Mystyk 2015-12-22T22:37:57+00:00

I think there are some issues with this, although most diffs are nicely mapped.

[General]

The reverse arrow is hard to see, the color is not outstanding enough, it blends too well with the hit circle skin, I think this should be changed.
Widescreen support is checked on all difficulties except Tough.
Are you sure you need that (Glee Cast Version) in the title when the artist is already Glee Cast? o.o

[Average]

This difficulty is too hard for a Normal, the map is mapped in 1/6 and some of the patterns are too crowded, it is really difficult to read for beginners, what also makes it hard is that you mapped to a lot of things and because of that even though you used distance snap, it is still difficult to read most likely because of the 1/6.

00:10:524 (3,4,5) - the distance is hard to read because they are all close to each other even if you used distance snap, it would be better to use something like this: http://puu.sh/m5d2n/0fd5c3875f.jpg it still follows the fast beats but it is easier to read
00:12:103 (1,2) - changing the direction of (2) would be more readable - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186128
00:15:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I would say that using a few harder patterns is fine but when you use this much it is too hard, you could at least change the ending of the pattern a bit - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186178 OR you could also do this http://puu.sh/m5dWW/b714cf3fac.jpg it is easier to read imo and still follows the vocals pretty well
00:18:419 (1,2,3,4) - this patterns is too crowded and hard to read, I think this would be a lot better: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186205 - it follows the vocals (just like you did), easier to read (because the slider beginnings and ends aren't too close to each other) but still a little challenege and you wouldn't have to change that much distance either
00:19:998 (5,6,1) - the distance is hard to tell because you made a little overlap, players might want to hit it earlier than they should, it would be so much better if 00:21:445 (1) - started on the white tick - http://puu.sh/m5cSk/dd12956046.jpg - the white tick is much stronger than the vocals starting on 1/6
00:24:735 (1,2) - this is similar to 00:12:103 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186232
00:26:708 (4,5) - this is also a bit difficult and might be weird to play for normal diff players: http://puu.sh/m5ex8/6ecf4445a4.jpg
00:28:945 (4,5,6) - too crowded like mentioned before because of the overlap
00:33:682 (4,5,1) - this is difficult too, it would be better to start 00:34:077 (1) - on the white tick because the white tick is a lot louder
00:41:708 (3,4,5) - this was even harder than the other patterns, this would be a lot better imo: http://puu.sh/m5f5W/860d77ea14.jpg
01:36:445 (5,6,1) - I also find this difficult because of the short sliders, because look, if I do the same pattern with 2 hit circles it is very misleading since it's hard to tell if it's a shor slider or 2 hit circles: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186341, so I think it would be better to use something easier like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186353
01:38:945 (4,5,6,1,2) - lot of difficult patterns
01:42:104 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - lot of difficult patterns for a long time
01:57:498 (3,4,5) - similar as mentioned before
02:08:419 (5,6,7,1) - difficult because the notes are close to each other and players have to hit a lot of things
02:12:366 (1,2) - these overlaps aren't really good on a normal diff imo
02:13:945 (1,2) - ^
02:15:524 (1,2) - ^
02:19:866 (1) - would be better to start on a white tick because the beat is stronger and it's easier to read
02:23:024 (1) - ^

I think I didn't even mention all of those hard patterns but I think you get my general idea.

[Tough]

00:20:656 (3,4,5) - confusing distance change
00:39:143 (7) - because of the reverse arrow this is difficult to read

[Natsu & Euny's Gift]

00:29:867 (3,4) - the flow isn't really good here because the reverse slider leads backwards, suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186428
00:58:945 (6,7,8) - would be a lot more fun to play if all big beats were followed, so 00:59:208 - add hit circle?
01:24:077 - and 01:24:472 - same as above ^
01:49:471 (2) - same ^
01:59:208 - ^
02:16:051 (4,5) - instead of sliders it would be better to hit the bigger beats so that it will be more fun to play just like the previous suggestions ^

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2015-12-22T23:30:38+00:00

Hey Gero,

I think Mystyk brought up some valid points and I'd advise you checking them.

My personal opinion about the Normal is, however, that it is not too hard and fits the spread just fine. It is a difficult normal, but the spread is definitely given at this point.

Tough: I wanna suggest a rhythm for here 00:20:656 (3,4) - : http://puu.sh/m5kB9/8732a02e30.jpg - the current one looks nice but sadly isn't really supported by the music.

What bothers me more is Natsu's and Euny's Diff, it shows up several weird spots.
00:39:603 (4,5,6,7) - How about stacking those? It really doesn't feel natural this way here, and you should keep them spaced for special parts like 00:19:077 (3,4,5,6) - .
00:40:524 (1) - This rhythm is really weird. Could you take a look at it again?
00:43:156 (5,6,7,8,1,2) - Again, please don'^t put such high spacing here. Keep them for special parts, this should just be a "regular" part imo.
00:57:893 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is nice.

Please check your spacings (like the high spacings) and remove some accordingly, to put emphasis on the correct spots. And could I ask you to check the blankets? Some look really off, and all look kinda different.

Good luck!

Natsu

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Joined September 2012

Natsu 2015-12-23T00:40:57+00:00

Mystyk wrote:
[Natsu & Euny's Gift]
01:59:208 - ^ maybe worng time, I can't listen it tbh or almost inaudible
02:16:051 (4,5) - instead of sliders it would be better to hit the bigger beats so that it will be more fun to play just like the previous suggestions ^ I really prefer vocals as I don in all my maps >:

Irreversible wrote:
What bothers me more is Natsu's and Euny's Diff, it shows up several weird spots.
00:39:603 (4,5,6,7) - How about stacking those? It really doesn't feel natural this way here, and you should keep them spaced for special parts like I disagree if you listen to the music 00:38:814 (1,2) - are really different to 00:39:603 (4,5,6,7) - that's why they aren't stacked, to represent the difference in the music
00:40:524 (1) - This rhythm is really weird. Could you take a look at it again? indeed did a 1/1 slider 00:40:524 (1) -
00:43:156 (5,6,7,8,1,2) - Again, please don'^t put such high spacing here. Keep them for special parts, this should just be a "regular" part imo. did stack 00:43:945 (1,2) - since my bad music going down, but i did keep 00:43:156 (5,6,7,8) - because the music suggest me to keep the spacing like that is similar as the before case, hope you understand
00:57:893 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is nice.:D

Please check your spacings (like the high spacings) and remove some accordingly, to put emphasis on the correct spots. And could I ask you to check the blankets? Some look really off, and all look kinda different. about blankets looks fine to me, anyways I'll fix some that are 1 or 2 pixel off, about the spacing mind pointing them out, because the map is really consistent with the spacing 1,50 and 1,30 mostly, and the jumps are in sliders (slider leniency make them don't play like real jumps tbh) so will be nice if you can point out them c:!

Good luck!

thanks

Euny

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Joined January 2014

Euny 2015-12-23T02:09:06+00:00

Mystyk wrote:
[Natsu & Euny's Gift]
00:29:867 (3,4) - the flow isn't really good here because the reverse slider leads backwards, suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186428 - yeah i agree with you. flow feels bad for me too. but then will be too long ds for them. how about this? now, i think it changed better to play! https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4187080
00:58:945 (6,7,8) - would be a lot more fun to play if all big beats were followed, so 00:59:208 - add hit circle? ✔fixed
01:24:077 - and 01:24:472 - same as above ^✔fixed
01:49:471 (2) - same ^ - oh this for vocal one so i'll keep my current one!

thanks for mod Mystyk. merry christmas in advance!

Irreversible wrote:
00:57:893 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is nice. thank you irre! i replaced bit for better look and added note for 00:59:208 (8) - here as followed Mystyk's suggestion. its better to music i think!

Please check your spacings (like the high spacings) and remove some accordingly, to put emphasis on the correct spots. And could I ask you to check the blankets? Some look really off, and all look kinda different. - blanket seems my parts. i fixed some of parts and changed some ds for better quality. hope you agree with me!

Good luck!

thanks for mod irre. happy christmas in advance!

Natsu

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Joined September 2012

Natsu 2015-12-23T02:15:41+00:00

Fixed some bad stack and an almost offscreen slider, hope is fine now!!:

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Gero

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Gero 2015-12-23T03:52:34+00:00

Mystyk

I think there are some issues with this, although most diffs are nicely mapped. o/

[General]

The reverse arrow is hard to see, the color is not outstanding enough, it blends too well with the hit circle skin, I think this should be changed. Sure, fixed.
Widescreen support is checked on all difficulties except Tough. Nice catch, fixed.
Are you sure you need that (Glee Cast Version) in the title when the artist is already Glee Cast? o.o I told you already in game, the metadata is correct as is.

The proof: Glee: The Music, The Christmas Album Volume 3

[Average]

This difficulty is too hard for a Normal, the map is mapped in 1/6 and some of the patterns are too crowded, it is really difficult to read for beginners, what also makes it hard is that you mapped to a lot of things and because of that even though you used distance snap, it is still difficult to read most likely because of the 1/6. 1/6? did you checked it in a right way? I mapped everything in 1/3 so in a fact some parts are difficult but it's not impossible to see that is like this due Tough is so dense as well.

00:10:524 (3,4,5) - the distance is hard to read because they are all close to each other even if you used distance snap, it would be better to use something like this: http://puu.sh/m5d2n/0fd5c3875f.jpg it still follows the fast beats but it is easier to read Wait a second, I checked this rhythm and in my opinion it doesn't follows anything since your repeat is on red tick and being honest, the strong sound is at 1/3 that's why this were mapping like this.
00:12:103 (1,2) - changing the direction of (2) would be more readable - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186128 Oh, this is great, fixed.
00:15:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I would say that using a few harder patterns is fine but when you use this much it is too hard, you could at least change the ending of the pattern a bit - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186178 OR you could also do this http://puu.sh/m5dWW/b714cf3fac.jpg it is easier to read imo and still follows the vocals pretty well Sorry but I won't change that, that have a consistent spacing and is not that hard to read if you ask me.
00:18:419 (1,2,3,4) - this patterns is too crowded and hard to read, I think this would be a lot better: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186205 - it follows the vocals (just like you did), easier to read (because the slider beginnings and ends aren't too close to each other) but still a little challenege and you wouldn't have to change that much distance either So... you're trying to change everything that starts at 1/3? because everything is about this, anyways I doubt it's wrong or something, the spacing is used in a right way.
00:19:998 (5,6,1) - the distance is hard to tell because you made a little overlap, players might want to hit it earlier than they should, it would be so much better if 00:21:445 (1) - started on the white tick - http://puu.sh/m5cSk/dd12956046.jpg - the white tick is much stronger than the vocals starting on 1/6 You're right, fixed.
00:24:735 (1,2) - this is similar to 00:12:103 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186232 Fixed.
00:26:708 (4,5) - this is also a bit difficult and might be weird to play for normal diff players: http://puu.sh/m5ex8/6ecf4445a4.jpg What I said before about this.
00:28:945 (4,5,6) - too crowded like mentioned before because of the overlap Fixed.
00:33:682 (4,5,1) - this is difficult too, it would be better to start 00:34:077 (1) - on the white tick because the white tick is a lot louder Fixed.
00:41:708 (3,4,5) - this was even harder than the other patterns, this would be a lot better imo: http://puu.sh/m5f5W/860d77ea14.jpg This is perfectly fine, it's following the vocals.
01:36:445 (5,6,1) - I also find this difficult because of the short sliders, because look, if I do the same pattern with 2 hit circles it is very misleading since it's hard to tell if it's a shor slider or 2 hit circles: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186341, so I think it would be better to use something easier like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4186353 Fixed.
01:38:945 (4,5,6,1,2) - lot of difficult patterns What I said before.
01:42:104 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - lot of difficult patterns for a long time ^
01:57:498 (3,4,5) - similar as mentioned before ^
02:08:419 (5,6,7,1) - difficult because the notes are close to each other and players have to hit a lot of things Changed a bit.
02:12:366 (1,2) - these overlaps aren't really good on a normal diff imo I really like them, sorry but I won't change that.
02:13:945 (1,2) - ^ ^
02:15:524 (1,2) - ^ ^
02:19:866 (1) - would be better to start on a white tick because the beat is stronger and it's easier to read I'm following the Vocals mostly of the time.
02:23:024 (1) - ^ Same
I think I didn't even mention all of those hard patterns but I think you get my general idea.

[Tough]

00:20:656 (3,4,5) - confusing distance change Fixed.
00:39:143 (7) - because of the reverse arrow this is difficult to read Now should be fine.

Irreversible

Hey Gero, o/

I think Mystyk brought up some valid points and I'd advise you checking them.

My personal opinion about the Normal is, however, that it is not too hard and fits the spread just fine. It is a difficult normal, but the spread is definitely given at this point.

Tough: I wanna suggest a rhythm for here 00:20:656 (3,4) - : http://puu.sh/m5kB9/8732a02e30.jpg - the current one looks nice but sadly isn't really supported by the music. You're right, fixed.

Good luck!

Everything should be fine now.

Updated~

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Monstrata 2015-12-23T04:56:53+00:00

Rebubbling! Thanks Mystyk and Irre for checking.

We decided to go with a different repeat arrow instead for better readability.

Gero

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Gero 2015-12-23T04:59:26+00:00