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Beuchi
osu! Alumni
2,288 posts
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Beuchi
I'm with ouran in this one.

Colored has been here for a pretty long time, and I've seen a lot of records of him. 10 100's? What's wrong with it. If you can call him a cheater then can I call H1ko a cheater for SS'ing a lot of so hard songs? Or Cookiezi? Or hvick225? NO

Seriously, LoweH, stop this. Report things that are OBVIOUS like spinner or auto hacks, not people that S'd a hard song with so few 100's. You're just making another flame war with no reason.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Beuchi-chan wrote:

I'm with ouran in this one.

Colored has been here for a pretty long time, and I've seen a lot of records of him. 7 100's? What's wrong with it. If you can call him a cheater then can I call H1ko a cheater for SS'ing a lot of so hard songs? Or Cookiezi? Or hvick225? NO

Seriously, LoweH, stop this. Report things that are OBVIOUS like spinner or auto hacks, not people that S'd a hard song with so few 100's. You're just making another flame war with no reason.
beuchi problem isn't 10 100s, but he got it in 10 min + hidden ... so i'm flaming ok, sorry for fake report, stop here you are right .. i won't a flame thread ..
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Sorry for double post

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3575

position #13 http://osu.ppy.sh/u/403507

Rank #22,843 and 12 playcounts, 1 plays - Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign [DaRRi MIx] and SS'ed

No multi account

SPOILER
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

LoweH wrote:

Sorry for double post

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3575

position #13 http://osu.ppy.sh/u/403507

Rank #22,843 and 12 playcounts, 1 plays - Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign [DaRRi MIx] and SS'ed

No multi account

SPOILER
That guy also has an S on IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita with only 3 100s.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

Glasslake wrote:

LoweH wrote:

Sorry for double post

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3575

position #13 http://osu.ppy.sh/u/403507

Rank #22,843 and 12 playcounts, 1 plays - Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign [DaRRi MIx] and SS'ed

No multi account

SPOILER
That guy also has an S on IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita with only 3 100s.
already been reported
1miko1
38 posts
Joined April 2009
1miko1
I know that kanopu was alredy reported for cheating in Marisa, but i would like to report him again. I was trying to get 1st place, so i just watched Kanopu's Rokodo's and Youngdow's replays carefully. Also i amde some counting and tried to play song in HT. Conclusion was , that this isn't 1/8 stream. Its 1/16 stream, because of strange slider->note conversion. I wasn't able to FC marisa on HT, while I am able to play song like:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I can pass 1/4 250bpm stream easily, so i don't think that 1/8 stream using 170bpm and ht should be any problem, while it was. So, 16x170bpm= 2720
2720/60=45,(3)
That means that in order to FC that stream you would have to press keyboard/button/tatacon or w/e over 45 per secod which is pretty impossbile.
Also Rokodo's replay looks complete unrealistic. He doubled clicked all the notes. And it's impossbile to double click in the deathstream because of the insane speed. So he used bot (macro probably), because he passed youngdow by over 100k, which mean he had to double click the notes inside the deathstream.
My conclusion is that highest score achieved without cheating is youngdow one, which still looks strange for me (getting such combos on deathstream?) but it is possible probably to do that using mouse+keyboard somehow. Also if kanopu/Rokodo didn't cheat they will be able to post a video.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

1miko1 wrote:

I know that kanopu was alredy reported for cheating in Marisa, but i would like to report him again. I was trying to get 1st place, so i just watched Kanopu's Rokodo's and Youngdow's replays carefully. Also i amde some counting and tried to play song in HT. Conclusion was , that this isn't 1/8 stream. Its 1/16 stream, because of strange slider->note conversion. I wasn't able to FC marisa on HT, while I am able to play song like:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I can pass 1/4 250bpm stream easily, so i don't think that 1/8 stream using 170bpm and ht should be any problem, while it was. So, 16x170bpm= 2720
2720/60=45,(3)
That means that in order to FC that stream you would have to press keyboard/button/tatacon or w/e over 45 per secod which is pretty impossbile.
Also Rokodo's replay looks complete unrealistic. He doubled clicked all the notes. And it's impossbile to double click in the deathstream because of the insane speed. So he used bot (macro probably), because he passed youngdow by over 100k, which mean he had to double click the notes inside the deathstream.
My conclusion is that highest score achieved without cheating is youngdow one, which still looks strange for me (getting such combos on deathstream?) but it is possible probably to do that using mouse+keyboard somehow. Also if kanopu/Rokodo didn't cheat they will be able to post a video.
Click is both reds, so you can say maybe this replay if before the mouse click change, but always all notes are with double, so he must play with 1 mouse key and did 1/16 streams (i can say is too with 2 fingers is almost impossible 1/16), or use macro .. (macro not allowed)

(i mean if he used a key on the keyboard and one of mouse, in replay you see 1 note with both press and other with normal press, so i think is only mouse)
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
THAT IS 1/8 STREAM, YOU'RE JUST PRESSING IT WRONG.

170 x 8 = 1360, 250 x 4 = 1000. Marisa's 1/8 streams are faster than 250BPM's 1/4 streams. Now let's take into account HT... that would make Marisa's BPM reduced to 127.5 . 127.5 x 8 = 1020, which is STILL FASTER than 250BPM's 1/4 streams.

Conclusion: you're doing it wrong.

Also just to remind that half-time makes a song go 0.75x slower and not 0.5x slower. Maybe even 0.8x, IDR.

I still do have suspicion on kanopu though. Well, with Rokodo... errr, maybe I'll keep that issue to myself just to avoid commotion. youngdow himself did say that with the TaTaCon you can pretty much do that though (believe it or not, I've tried; indeed you CAN press faster on the drum than on the keyboard, mainly because of the opposite force that goes to your hand when you hit the drum, making movement a bit easier)

To check, maybe I can make a Yawaraka-type Taiko map on http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9917 , and someone try to clear that with an FC. I know youngdow can do that lol
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Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Zekira wrote:

THAT IS 1/8 STREAM, YOU'RE JUST PRESSING IT WRONG.

170 x 8 = 1360, 250 x 4 = 1000. Marisa's 1/8 streams are faster than 250BPM's 1/4 streams. Now let's take into account HT... that would make Marisa's BPM reduced to 127.5 . 127.5 x 8 = 1020, which is STILL FASTER than 250BPM's 1/4 streams.

Conclusion: you're doing it wrong.

Also just to remind that half-time makes a song go 0.75x slower and not 0.5x slower. Maybe even 0.8x, IDR.

I still do have suspicion on kanopu though. Well, with Rokodo... errr, maybe I'll keep that to myself. youngdow himself did say that with the TaTaCon you can pretty much do that though (believe it or not, I've tried; indeed you CAN press faster on the drum than on the keyboard, mainly because of the opposite force that goes to your hand when you hit the drum, making movement a bit easier)
So with 1/8 is faster 250BPM's how you said, is possible with 1 finger ? o_o
(i'm not accusing, i want only understand)

about kanopu, maybe is possible but all 300's? 0.0 he is a robot x]
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
with 1 finger
Be reminded that mouse clicks count as the left side of the drum (changed in latest build, mouse click doesn't register both sides anymore). If his right hand was on the mouse, and his left was on the left-side bindings, it would then make sense.

My previous post was addressed to 1miko1 btw.

I really need to solve this mystery... I only need some proof X_X
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Zekira wrote:

with 1 finger
Be reminded that mouse clicks count as the left side of the drum (changed in latest build, mouse click doesn't register both sides anymore). If his right hand was on the mouse, and his left was on the left-side bindings, it would then make sense.

My previous post was addressed to 1miko1 btw.

I really need to solve this mystery... I only need some proof X_X
His name is Zekira, Zekira Bond *007 music* btw, for me taiko needs more care about cheaters, etc ... people don't care so much
ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc

LoweH wrote:

for me taiko needs more care about cheaters, etc ... people don't care so much
Why do you always assume one is a cheater when something questionable happens
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

ouranhshc wrote:

LoweH wrote:

for me taiko needs more care about cheaters, etc ... people don't care so much
Why do you always assume one is a cheater when something questionable happens
learn to read man,

LoweH wrote:

(i'm not accusing)
and i mean, TAIKO in general need care more, because are so many cheaters in
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

LoweH wrote:

and i mean, TAIKO in general need care more, because are so many cheaters in

I don't know if there are any known cheaters in Taiko, but I do agree that Taiko needs more attention than it is getting right now.
1miko1
38 posts
Joined April 2009
1miko1
Also, I am not sure, but using two screens to hr+fl+hidden everything is allowed? I heard it is O_o Because if not, there are plenty of scores which looks "strange". Also i always though that HT is somthing like x0.6. Also I am passing 157bpm stream still without problems (1/8 ofc), I've also tried 178bpm stream, I can do it, and I can even pass 190BPM, took me some retries and the stream is way shorter than that one in marisa but still... If I can do 1/8 with over 170bpm, why can't I FC marisa? I can't even FC it on halftime, so it HAS to be 1/16 stream.
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol

1miko1 wrote:

Also, I am not sure, but using two screens to hr+fl+hidden everything is allowed? I heard it is O_o Because if not, there are plenty of scores which looks "strange". Also i always though that HT is somthing like x0.6. Also I am passing 157bpm stream still without problems (1/8 ofc), I've also tried 178bpm stream, I can do it, and I can even pass 190BPM, took me some retries and the stream is way shorter than that one in marisa but still... If I can do 1/8 with over 170bpm, why can't I FC marisa? I can't even FC it on halftime, so it HAS to be 1/16 stream.
Because you suck. durr hur derp..
It's not 1/16, not even 1/8 if I remeber correct, just simple 1/4.
Zekira
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Joined September 2008
Zekira
It's not 1/16, not even 1/8 if I remeber correct, just simple 1/4.
Taiko, not osu!standard. Sliders get converted to notes if they're too short and don't have Taiko-only mode on.

@1miko1: I swear you're doing it wrong. If you're judging your hits by the noise that's in the BG music, then that's probably why; the notes don't follow that noise.

Because if they were truly 1/16, then I don't think anyone outside of Cookiezi or ShaggoN can FC that on osu!standard.
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Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Yeah it's 1/8 i already checked in edit mode .. are sliders in 1/8
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1miko1
38 posts
Joined April 2009
1miko1
Ofc it is 1/8 in osu!, but because of strange algorithm, its 1/16 in taiko...Also, if its 1/4, 1/6 or even 1/8, why MittenMasterz and youngdow didn't FC it? I can bet that it's faster than 1/8, probably 1/16. Also, peppy knows how this algorithm work, so he should be able to judge wether it's "simple 1/4" , 1/8 or 1/16. And 1/8 is possible with 170bpm, that's why people can FC it in osu!
EDIT: I checked how this algorith works...It converts beggning and the ending of slider to a beat, and add some notes inside if its somewhat longer. So, in marisa, where there are 1/8 sliders it converts the ending to the beats as well, so there are 2x more notes = its 1/16
@Zekira: I may do it wrong, but it's still 1/16.
EDIT2: There is 193 notes in that stream divide by duration 8,47 gives about 22,75 clicks per second. 22,75*60/170=8. I guess I was wrong then and it's 1/8 stream. Anyway the question is, why people in osu! can pass it and they can't in taiko (most of them...)? Then it must be 1/4 in osu!, and probably is. Well, it is possible to FC it then, but none 100? Odd. And rokodo had to press both brums in deathstream to get only 1k less score than kanopu. So even if it is only 1/8 stream, I am pretty sure that both of them cheated
Natteke
6,540 posts
Joined August 2009
Natteke

1miko1 wrote:

I can bet that it's faster than 1/8, probably 1/16.
what
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

1miko1 wrote:

Ofc it is 1/8 in osu!, but because of strange algorithm, its 1/16 in taiko...Also, if its 1/4, 1/6 or even 1/8, why MittenMasterz and youngdow didn't FC it? I can bet that it's faster than 1/8, probably 1/16. Also, peppy knows how this algorithm work, so he should be able to judge wether it's "simple 1/4" , 1/8 or 1/16. And 1/8 is possible with 170bpm, that's why people can FC it in osu!
EDIT: I checked how this algorith works...It converts beggning and the ending of slider to a beat, and add some notes inside if its somewhat longer. So, in marisa, where there are 1/8 sliders it converts the ending to the beats as well, so there are 2x more notes = its 1/16
@Zekira: I may do it wrong, but it's still 1/16.
EDIT2: There is 193 notes in that stream divide by duration 8,47 gives about 22,75 clicks per second. 22,75*60/170=8. I guess I was wrong then and it's 1/8 stream. Anyway the question is, why people in osu! can pass it and they can't in taiko (most of them...)? Then it must be 1/4 in osu!, and probably is. Well, it is possible to FC it then, but none 100? Odd. And rokodo had to press both brums in deathstream to get only 1k less score than kanopu. So even if it is only 1/8 stream, I am pretty sure that both of them cheated
I explain you .. so BPM is 170

1 only time section = no double time for sliders

SPOILER

so it can be only 1/8, not faster (in taiko), in osu is 1/4

SPOILER
Zekira
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Joined September 2008
Zekira
Thank you for explaining it before I do LoweH, lol

In any case, long explanation short: it's not possible to have a slider that's 1/16 short. No 1/16 short sliders = no 1/16 apart notes.

Also, if its 1/4, 1/6 or even 1/8, why MittenMasterz and youngdow didn't FC it?
...are you seriously implying that if a pro can do it, then youngdow/Mittenz can do it as well...?

youngdow may be a true Tatsujin, but he isn't a Taiko god to be able to do everything.

Also reminding that even youngdow himself said that Marisa stream is possible (no idea why he isn't doing it... probably because he doesn't have anything to plug Tatacon to his comp)
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
Lol why is this even being debated, Taiko is full of cheaters. (Reason why I don't play ranked anymore, let alone play much at all) Still can't believe you guys haven't realized kanpou is hax xD.(My suspicion is that it's a multi account. >.>) Like really if he were to fc that marisa roll with tatacon, imagine the lag between the hit and then the register on osu!.

But none the less I will put my 2 cents in on this marisa thing.

I have sat down for a few hours in the past trying to hit the marisa "deathstream" and I still can't really do it, compared to other deathstreams I have perfected: Shoushitsu, 250BPM, U.N. Owen Was Her. Marisa should be A WALK IN THE PARK. I know i'm going fast enough but my hits arn't registering, kinda dumb.

1miko1 wrote:

I can bet that it's faster than 1/8, probably 1/16.
Yeah sure if it's 100bpm.

Zekira wrote:

...are you seriously implying that if a pro can do it, then youngdow/Mittenz can do it as well...?
Are you implying I'm pro or God? D:
(I'm neither :v)

Also Zekira your new Icon picture is sexy~~
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller

MittenMasterzz wrote:

things about fc'ing marisa stream
I kinda felt like repeating what Zekira said

If you're judging your hits by the noise that's in the BG music, then that's probably why; the notes don't follow that noise.
^that really can be distracting you even if you think it's not

And mmkay, I think the only way to have any proofs if kanopu cheated or not is to open his replay manually and check it for suspitiously equal timings between hits on that deathstream (though like hell if I know how to do that).

Any further discussions are pretty pointless, just personal opinions, thoughts going in the "how to fc that stream" and not "if #1 is cheated" way.
1miko1
38 posts
Joined April 2009
1miko1
I already said that I was wrong, it's 1/8, which doesn't mean kanpou and Rokodo didn't cheat. SS on thatstream seems impossible and double clicking is impossible as well, and probably just passing it with alot of 100 is impossible. Also, i just passed it on HT so can someone tell me what is halftime speed?
@TKiller: I have no idea how to download it to the HDD so I can open it with notepad, so we can solve this mysterious problem if peppy just check the replay on server.
M o N a K a
11 posts
Joined December 2009
M o N a K a

ouranhshc wrote:

LoweH wrote:

hyt103 style
really, dude >_>
핵 쓰지마세요
dvorak_old
294 posts
Joined February 2010
dvorak_old
You can't do it , cuz you are unskilled.
Someone can do it cuz they are skilled.

This score doesn't looks right ( for you ?) , then you are right.

real AC game example.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHTnEYNLghM

you can see tatacon version of this song in Niconico.http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9858001

This is another game, but good example to explain where experts are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SARUUsCNWgE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhOZ2EjxKfw

Can you recognize all notes ? 8-)
Natteke
6,540 posts
Joined August 2009
Natteke

dvorak wrote:

vids
So what's this all for?
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
@dvorak: those aren't good examples because DON'T CUT is too easy. Show them Hataraku2000 FC vids.
dvorak_old
294 posts
Joined February 2010
dvorak_old
@Zekira that movie include how to do real FAST stream
0:39~ or 1:12~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7MQRKM725A

Just imagine he play osu! with tatacon, that is answer.

He isn't top player, top are already lower than 10 × 可.
kvnyaoi
46 posts
Joined July 2008
kvnyaoi

dvorak wrote:

lower than 10 × 可.
holy mother-


also, 1miko1, let this marisa stream go.
kanopu is a good player. let's just assume the better.
and yea, rokodo has some shifty shit going on there but that's just rokodo. funny guy.
1miko1
38 posts
Joined April 2009
1miko1
Anyway, I won't belive any of these score is fair... But probably because of "lack of evidence" no action will be taken =/. But it's just like the guy on emerald sword...There is no proof really, but it's obvious he idd cheat, right?
@EDIT: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34211 Was reported already like 10293245times probably then i wonder why wasn't he banned :roll:
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12995
Horie Yui - I my me
#1 12,020,847 99.64% moneto 805 560 / 3 / 0 93 3 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48546
East Rockerz - Sound Of My Dreams (DJ Splash Remix)
#1 7,348,851 95.67% moneto 539 393 / 26 / 1 35 18 0 Flashlight

just 4 times
and its not most play
BIG PRO



Lunah_old
Lunah_old

kvnyaoi wrote:

kanopu is a good player
orz



LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12995
Horie Yui - I my me
#1 12,020,847 99.64% moneto 805 560 / 3 / 0 93 3 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48546
East Rockerz - Sound Of My Dreams (DJ Splash Remix)
#1 7,348,851 95.67% moneto 539 393 / 26 / 1 35 18 0 Flashlight

just 4 times
and its not most play
BIG PRO
About that i thought the same, but KRZY told me he don't cheat, i trust but is a little obv

Same problem for LA DI DA by nightcore, few tries and FC Flashlight
moneto_old
moneto_old
Although I don't pay that much attention to my play count, I do tend to practice offline or with the Spun-Out mod on before I come close to FCing a song with FL.
kaouji
92 posts
Joined February 2009
kaouji

moneto wrote:

Although I don't pay that much attention to my play count, I do tend to practice offline or with the Spun-Out mod on before I come close to FCing a song with FL.
I guess that is a obv excuse.you need to learn how to lie.

i never see you practice anytinhg and look at the "Recent Activity".
Did you get time to play offline? when is it ?

Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi

kaouji wrote:

moneto wrote:

Although I don't pay that much attention to my play count, I do tend to practice offline or with the Spun-Out mod on before I come close to FCing a song with FL.
I guess that is a obv excuse.you need to learn how to lie.

i never see you practice anytinhg and look at the "Recent Activity".
Did you get time to play offline? when is it ?

I have the same opinion like kaouji. Thats obv.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Suspected multi-account user : y uni

I don't think people usually do these things when they started the game for the first time today:

SPOILER

However, when I !multied him, nothing came up, so I think this guy might be someone who hasn't played for over a month and then returned with a new account.

Honestly, I don't think this guy is new to osu. Even super-noobs can't do that.

So is there a way to check?
Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva
S'ing Rougoku [Insane] in one day :P
Very amazing, even after nine months of playing I can't do it :P
Perhaps this y uni case is similar with the [Awesome] case?
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

DJ KRZY wrote:

However, when I !multied him, nothing came up, so I think this guy might be someone who hasn't played for over a month and then returned with a new account.
probably using a proxy
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika
I find this VERY disturbing. :(
Even though I heard ash411 has been suspected of hacking or something.
You should watch his replays, they make me cry. ;_;
ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc
hasn't that already been discussed
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

kaouji wrote:

I guess that is a obv excuse.you need to learn how to lie.

i never see you practice anytinhg and look at the "Recent Activity".
Did you get time to play offline? when is it ?
seconded
Asenath
91 posts
Joined November 2009
Asenath

HikariKira wrote:

I find this VERY disturbing. :(
Even though I heard ash411 has been suspected of hacking or something.
You should watch his replays, they make me cry. ;_;
I though the same, 'cause I've never seen someone playng CtB like that. I mean, avoiding droplets intentionally it's weird.
taq
43 posts
Joined July 2009
taq

Asenath wrote:

HikariKira wrote:

I find this VERY disturbing. :(
Even though I heard ash411 has been suspected of hacking or something.
You should watch his replays, they make me cry. ;_;
I though the same, 'cause I've never seen someone playng CtB like that. I mean, avoiding droplets intentionally it's weird.
that is just 4 fun,it is harder to fc without catching any droplet
ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc
spinner fruits are worth more than droplets too
ZHSteven
osu! Alumni
1,012 posts
Joined July 2009
ZHSteven
I think it is an another way of playing ctb...
once i am trying like this~~ only catch the dorplet~~(no spinner friut) that is funny~
SPOILER
Faust
osu! Alumni
4,785 posts
Joined January 2009
Faust

qianantai3 wrote:

I though the same, 'cause I've never seen someone playng CtB like that. I mean, avoiding droplets intentionally it's weird
that is just 4 fun,it is harder to fc without catching any droplet
Just means he's good enough to get such a Score with such a Rank. Lukamiku prefers A over S or SS's. Same thing with this guy, he's just a joker lol.
Hika
1,553 posts
Joined February 2010
Hika

OH-SHI- wrote:

Just means he's good enough to get such a Score with such a Rank. Lukamiku prefers A over S or SS's. Same thing with this guy, he's just a joker lol.
& also, droplets are about 10pts each, so I guess he lost a few couple of thousands from his overall score without the droplets.
So he just probably went to catch MORE fruit to make up for the droplets. But I think I might as well just try out what he did for some results...
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/419417

he's joined four days ago and look at his recent activity

SPOILER

he's also got the first place in http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63639
pete2528
412 posts
Joined March 2009
pete2528

[-R-] wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/419417

he's joined four days ago and look at his recent activity

SPOILER

he's also got the first place in http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63639
i like your Firefox BG skin. Yoshida win!!

8-)
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo
2 weeks ago; [Awesome] achieved rank #30 on IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard] (osu!)
NO. There's NO way to complete the song with THAT score in the day of registration. Just THREE 100s, NOT by misclicking with the rhytm of song, but by mouse movement, he felt off the slider for THREE times.

btw, it's #35 atm so if any1 wanna see that replay, he/she'd better hurry

/ragequit
Bullsh0t
37 posts
Joined June 2010
Bullsh0t

Redo wrote:

2 weeks ago; [Awesome] achieved rank #30 on IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard] (osu!)
NO. There's NO way to complete the song with THAT score in the day of registration. Just THREE 100s, NOT by misclicking with the rhytm of song, but by mouse movement, he felt off the slider for THREE times.

btw, it's #35 atm so if any1 wanna see that replay, he/she'd better hurry

/ragequit
Of course it is possible. He/she could have played other rythm games before, or played EBA/ouendan.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
you can't compare Marisa to any of the EBA/Ouendan maps, if you actually played the map you would know.

also, osu! is osu!
Andrea
Beatmap Nominator
16,650 posts
Joined August 2008
Andrea
This map really needs to be fixed.

Please guys try to play this one: Takeharu Ishimoto - Emptiness And by buraimaster1234 [Easy], and let me know how many combo you will get.

I was going to fix my old record with 399 combo, but now when I finish play with SS I get only 347, how this is possible?!

Let me know if all of you have the same problem. That's weird.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

osuplayer111 wrote:

This map really needs to be fixed.

Please guys try to play this one: Takeharu Ishimoto - Emptiness And by buraimaster1234 [Easy], and let me know how many combo you will get.

I was going to fix my old record with 399 combo, but now when I finish play with SS I get only 347, how this is possible?!

Let me know if all of you have the same problem. That's weird.
I just played this and got 347, so yeah this is broken.
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
Looks like a leftover old score...? IDK
MegaManEXE
710 posts
Here since the beginning
MegaManEXE
Haven't been to this thread in a while so forgive me if this guy's been reported already, but

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/396379

Is definitely a multi or a cheater.

His scores on the following: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/25905, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18682, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36513, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29467, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31390, and http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50169 are suspicious considering his join date and playcount.
Roddie
osu! Alumni
1,468 posts
Joined June 2009
Roddie

MegaManEXE wrote:

Haven't been to this thread in a while so forgive me if this guy's been reported already, but

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/396379

Is definitely a multi or a cheater.

His scores on the following: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/25905, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18682, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36513, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29467, http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31390, and http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50169 are suspicious considering his join date and playcount.
I asked ignorethis about that. He is in fact, multi-accounting. >:(

Oh, the side note;

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34211

That #1 record. Why is that still there? xD

It's bogus. I thought this would be deleted. Guess not. :|
Intermezzo
osu! Alumni
101 posts
Joined July 2009
Intermezzo
Sorry for the lack of admin activity in this thread.
I'm still investigating some of the scores but made some preliminary bans. I'll try to keep up with new activity.

Purged:
_____D (multi, obscene hacked scores) : Yukico


Banned:
pkiller (multi) : xiaofeite, xiaonaiye
y uni (multi) : moneto, Pin-
[Awesome] (multi) : not found
AnFace
189 posts
Joined January 2010
AnFace

Intermezzo wrote:

Sorry for the lack of admin activity in this thread.
I'm still investigating some of the scores but made some preliminary bans. I'll try to keep up with new activity.

Purged:
_____D (multi, obscene hacked scores) : Yukico


Banned:
pkiller (multi) : xiaofeite, xiaonaiye
y uni (multi) : moneto, Pin-
[Awesome] (multi) : not found
Scar
681 posts
Joined January 2009
Scar
I know it's not the thread for this, and i'm sorry but

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=302656
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=303168

Multi accounts spotted ~
Froslass
Beatmap Nominator
9,342 posts
Joined July 2008
Froslass

scar1410 wrote:

I know it's not the thread for this, and i'm sorry but

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=302656
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=303168

Multi accounts spotted ~
WHAT @ avatar
CLS63AMG
6 posts
Joined March 2009
CLS63AMG

Blue Dragon wrote:

scar1410 wrote:

I know it's not the thread for this, and i'm sorry but

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=302656
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=303168

Multi accounts spotted ~
WHAT @ avatar
rofl
KanbeKotori
315 posts
Joined May 2009
KanbeKotori
Well many people talk about Cookiezi's replay on the map Hommarju feat. Latte - masterpiece(http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12483).

OD10 is the highest,but it's not so hard that we imagined.

I tried it today and recorded a video.You can watch it here:

Hmm the video and audio are not synchronized.Don't care about that.

You can download it here:
http://puu.sh/44o
(Thanks Alace's help :D)

And this is my replay:
Download: tq04t46 - Hommarju feat. Latte - masterpiece [Insane] (2010-07-25) Osu.osr

This is my best record.


I think we just need more practice on OD10.It's not hard.

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GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
People say that he cheated?
When/where?

OD 10 is just flashlight mod.
KanbeKotori
315 posts
Joined May 2009
KanbeKotori

Gladi wrote:

People say that he cheated?
When/where?

OD 10 is just flashlight mod.
Yeah I think so. Need remember some places.But it's easier than flashlight.

So I don't think he cheated on this map.

But maybe he also need record a video to prove it.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
DDDDDDDDD:
Asenath
91 posts
Joined November 2009
Asenath

scar1410 wrote:

I know it's not the thread for this, and i'm sorry but

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=302656
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=303168

Multi accounts spotted ~
And used both accounts to give star to the same map LOL

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33067&p=477670#p477670
Intermezzo
osu! Alumni
101 posts
Joined July 2009
Intermezzo
Guys this is not the thread to argue suspicions or to spot multi accounts.

scar1410 wrote:

I know it's not the thread for this, and i'm sorry but

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=302656
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=303168

Multi accounts spotted ~
If you find a multi by non-score-related means please PM a bat instead.
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33942 [Normal]

#2-#4
Hurude Rika
Hurude Rika
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange
Intermezzo
osu! Alumni
101 posts
Joined July 2009
Intermezzo

[KOR]RIKA wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange
Very old score from the previous score algorithm, now deleted.

Glasslake wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33942 [Normal]

#2-#4
Banned:
morimorigenki(multi) : SILVIA S15, morimorigennki, morimori100pa-, morimorimori
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy
Found an hacker (or some glitch?)
On taiko scores... Easy mode of Access - Doubt & Trust
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=14584&m=1
Look at the taiko easy mode, 124 combo the first, but the second have 69 with no misses...
Also see this:

^0 Misses
Zetta
334 posts
Joined December 2009
Zetta

gabrielwoj wrote:

Found an hacker (or some glitch?)
On taiko scores... Easy mode of Access - Doubt & Trust
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=14584&m=1
Look at the taiko easy mode, 124 combo the first, but the second have 69 with no misses...
Also see this:

^0 Misses
I think you're looking at the wrong hacker there...

If anything the number 1 spot is fishy, 124 hits, zero mods? O.o wat

Edit - Also 2 and 3 are the same people. Derp.
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy

Zettaslow wrote:

gabrielwoj wrote:

Found an hacker (or some glitch?)
On taiko scores... Easy mode of Access - Doubt & Trust
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=14584&m=1
Look at the taiko easy mode, 124 combo the first, but the second have 69 with no misses...
Also see this:

^0 Misses
I think you're looking at the wrong hacker there...

If anything the number 1 spot is fishy, 124 hits, zero mods? O.o wat

Edit - Also 2 and 3 are the same people. Derp.
But weird, I saw the replay and he got 69, and them on the list he got 124... O_o
Also for the 2nd and 3rd, is ALMOST same name...
2nd: Rickisb
3rd: rickisbb
^other account?
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso

[KOR]RIKA wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange

haha
Hurude Rika
Hurude Rika

LirsRosso wrote:

[KOR]RIKA wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange

haha

now delected, not L-lawliet
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=34211&m=2
#1 21,660,934 99.72% pieguy1372 898 892 / 6 / 162 58 3 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39825
#1 27,140,641 100.00% pieguy1372 974 969 / 5 / 76 57 0 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147
#1 44,894,923 99.86% pieguy1372 1286 1212 / 74 / 191 101 2 0 Hidden,Flashlight

can video?
i dont think its possible
Darksoul_old
154 posts
Joined July 2009
Darksoul_old
i think its impossible 2，i need live video
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi
I think its Possible

see mikhe he had FC it with hidden,doubletime .
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso

Keksi wrote:

I think its Possible

see mikhe he had FC it with hidden,doubletime .
dont talk about mikhe,i just doubt pieguy1372
dt+hid≠hid+fl
hid+fl cant see anything
and you can try it :3
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karta454515
720 posts
Joined August 2008
karta454515

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=34211&m=2
#1 21,660,934 99.72% pieguy1372 898 892 / 6 / 162 58 3 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39825
#1 27,140,641 100.00% pieguy1372 974 969 / 5 / 76 57 0 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147
#1 44,894,923 99.86% pieguy1372 1286 1212 / 74 / 191 101 2 0 Hidden,Flashlight

can video?
i dont think its possible
banxinbanyi

50%possible 50%fake
I only believe mikhe's FL records because he tried lot times and dont use any tools to help (only a paper and a pencik to record the hits)
need live video too

strange haha :?:
taq
43 posts
Joined July 2009
taq
:? http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51308&m=2 I think this is hard for me to believe. This jumping map I can merely pass with no mode and some luck also that Mikhe can do it with FL in a few playcounts. :o I did claim for a video before and he said he will do it. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21061&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=555 here
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi

qianantai3 wrote:

:? http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51308&m=2 I think this is hard for me to believe. This jumping map I can merely pass with no mode and some luck also that Mikhe can do it with FL in a few playcounts. :o I did claim for a video before and he said he will do it. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21061&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=555 here

Lol,

an S with 2 misses ?
bug ?
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso

Keksi wrote:

qianantai3 wrote:

:? http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51308&m=2 I think this is hard for me to believe. This jumping map I can merely pass with no mode and some luck also that Mikhe can do it with FL in a few playcounts. :o I did claim for a video before and he said he will do it. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21061&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=555 here

Lol,

an S with 2 misses ?
bug ?
be quiet,boy
taq
43 posts
Joined July 2009
taq
cause those jumps were too hard. even u can see through the FL it is still hard to fc. and Mikhe has already get the #1 so he doesnt have to go on.
Arusha Shuna
1,793 posts
Joined August 2009
Arusha Shuna
lol mikhe is accused of cheating XD
even though im a FL noob, i think it's not so hard for FL pro to memorize it.
Intermezzo
osu! Alumni
101 posts
Joined July 2009
Intermezzo
Banned:
Pookz(multi) : tsukata, Andreadoria
Rickisbb (multi): rickisb

Deleted:
#1 score Doubt & Trust[easy](taiko)

Ticketed:
CTB S bug (i352)

Under investigation:
pieguy1372

Arusha Shuna wrote:

lol mikhe is accused of cheating XD
even though im a FL noob, i think it's not so hard for FL pro to memorize it.

qianantai3 wrote:

cause those jumps were too hard. even u can see through the FL it is still hard to fc. and Mikhe has already get the #1 so he doesnt have to go on.

LirsRosso wrote:

be quiet, boy
Please don't argue about suspicious scores here. Just post them.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
What the...?! :shock:

I don't cheat. First, you can see the notes with Hidden+Flashlight in Catch the Beat, though just for a split second. Second, look at my play counts.

720 plays - Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu [Uninstall]
300 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Kanbu de Tomatte Ikimashita [Love]
300 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

In almost all cases, these amounts of plays are enough to memorize a map, and then FC it with Flashlight or Hidden+Flashlight in Catch the Beat. :)

Also, IIRC, ranks in Catch the Beat are based off of accuracy alone...it seems to be that anything 98.00% and above is an S. (Given that it's been this way all this time I'd assume it's intentional...)
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corno
36 posts
Joined August 2009
corno

LirsRosso wrote:

dont talk about mikhe,i just doubt pieguy1372
dt+hid≠hid+fl
hid+fl cant see anything
and you can try it :3
In CtB you can see a bit of the fruits on top before being cloaked by hidden, and it's quite easy to follow if they are not so separated.
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg





ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg
Bikko uses a touchscreen
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
touchscreen can 1 pc hid+fl
i will buy one
(あんたバカ？
str007
29 posts
Joined January 2010
str007

ouranhshc wrote:

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg
Bikko uses a touchscreen

looooool
touchscreen can help me FC ang song with Flashlight, how nice!
play songs with Flashlight, and no trajectory, how can he see these notes?ohh, this guy must have an amazing memory
Bikko
151 posts
Joined January 2010
Bikko
Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid panel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?
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Lunah_old
Lunah_old

LirsRosso wrote:


LoL image haha, btw i thought same but he explain me how play, he isn't a cheater, he only use marks for remember
kaouji
92 posts
Joined February 2009
kaouji
how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?
JamesLeao
366 posts
Joined October 2008
JamesLeao

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?
record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?
Crazy Jay
482 posts
Joined October 2008
Crazy Jay
where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear
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