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The Werewolf Game 5 (Ended by Host Decision)

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KRZY

strager wrote:

You obviously didn't read my post.
As a matter of fact I didn't. Bear with me while I do...

Edit : I've read your post.

Say one night a psychic scanned A. Then the psychic got NKed. Obviously, the psychic knows whether A is a wolf or not, but cannot say anything since he is dead.

The next night, the psychic gets revived, and scans B before the night is over. Now, the psychic knows about B as well as A. The next day, he is able to post about A and B.

Isn't this what happened this game? I think this is completely legit. Why shouldn't the psychic be allowed to scan A if he sent the PM before he was NKed? According to your method, the psychic never scans A because he is dead by the end of the night and therefore cannot perform his aux action. However, wouldn't it be more realistic to say the night actions occur precisely at the moment when an aux sends his night action PM to Ace? As I said before, think of the night phase as one flowing, real-time phase.

That was my two cents on the subject, it's up to Ace to decide which model she likes better.




If I have misunderstood your model, strager, please point out how because I'm not 100% certain if I have.
Two_old
The whole reason why there are 4 day days and 2 day nights is because of real life. To have events happen as they are pm'd is contradictory.

That said, stop talking about this ffs. Either play the game or quit.

and everyone vote for 0_o
Chris_old
unvote, Vote: 0_o
bearing019
Well, okay then

Vote: 0_o
0_o
Just so we're all clear, Two is trying to force me to shoot someone to verify my vigilante claim.
Wojjan
I know.
V0_ote
0_o
I was so looking forward to shooting you Wojjan, but that task was reallocated to the ninja ;_;
anonymous_old

0_o wrote:

I was so looking forward to shooting you Wojjan, but that task was reallocated to the ninja ;_;
No little harm in speeding up the process.

DJ KRZY, and maybe Ace of Hearts: I'll reword my statement. The way I see the system Ace of Hearts idealizes is this:

Aux actions are only considered for alive players.
Aux actions are queued during the night.
At the end of the night, all aux actions are executed sequentially and atomically, in order of enqueuement (FIFO). All aux actions are executed, except in explicit cases. (The Ninja in this game may be such a case, though it isn't clear from the rules. I can explain this if you want.)

An alternative is to have a priority queue, or some form of partitioning. So, you can say GA protections always occur before Wolf night kills. This is what occurs in all Mafia games I have played, and is more "fair" in my opinion, as Two basically said.

Oh, and in case I'm not the vig, I'll vote: 0_o.
nardii
must follow master Two

Vote: 0_o
0_o
..if he hollers let him go, eeney, meney, miney...

sorry.

BAM

The vigilante shoots LadySuburu.
Hijiri Tezuka
Damn, I'm not really sure if I should bandwagon. Oh to hell with it....
Vote: O_o
0_o
Hey OB, protip;

Vampires don't get guns.

Also it's not O_o, geez.
anonymous_old

0_o wrote:

Hey OB, protip;

Vampires don't get guns.
MS MS MS.
Chris_old
I guess 0_o was the Vigilante.

unvote, Vote thepianist
nardii
No now i have to think for myself and make a desicion :(

Unvote for now
Two_old
k unvote, vote thepianist
Hijiri Tezuka
Damnit all
Unvote
thepianist

Two wrote:

k unvote, vote thepianist

Chris wrote:

I guess 0_o was the Vigilante.

unvote, Vote thepianist
Why are you so set on the fact that there can only be one.
anonymous_old

thepianist wrote:

Two wrote:

k unvote, vote thepianist

Chris wrote:

I guess 0_o was the Vigilante.

unvote, Vote thepianist
Why are you so set on the fact that there can only be one.
Pressure.

Vote: thepianist
Two_old
if you don't prove to us that you're a vigilante then you aren't one

2 wolves left to go
bearing019
Unvote

So why is everyone voting thepianist now?
nardii
He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
matthewtck
i think i will just go with the flow since this game is too complicated for me...VOTE:thepianist
matthewtck
Also...lets hope the ninja kill more wolfs...
Wojjan
vote: thepianist
It's clear 0_o's shot hasn't been confirmed yet. lololol bluff.
anonymous_old

matthewtck wrote:

Also...lets hope the ninja kill more wolfs...
What the fuck.

Vote: matthewtck
nardii
Vote: matthewtck
matthewtck
okay....now.....wth did i do wrong...
Hijiri Tezuka
^It's just strager >>

vote:thepianist
thepianist

nardi11011 wrote:

He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
I'm afraid you got the facts mixed up~
matthewtck

thepianist wrote:

nardi11011 wrote:

He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
I'm afraid you got the facts mixed up~
again????
huh????
nardii

matthewtck wrote:

again????
huh????
Well, not making HIM shoot anyone again, but pressuring someone into shooting for the second time.

thepianist wrote:

nardi11011 wrote:

He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
I'm afraid you got the facts mixed up~
How so?
anonymous_old

matthewtck wrote:

again????
huh????
I didn't understand you for a while there...

thepianist tried to vig shoot, but retracted.
nardii

strager wrote:

matthewtck wrote:

again????
huh????
I didn't understand you for a while there...

thepianist tried to vig shoot, but retracted.
Oh so that's what happened, I thought he just tried to claim vigilante.
bearing019
Oh cool.

Vote: thepianist
Derekku
Meh, why the hell not.

Vote: thepianist

Pressure~
thepianist
Because it's already been discussed there is no point in holding it back anymore.

Roleclaim Vigilante Number 2
Chris_old

thepianist wrote:

Because it's already been discussed there is no point in holding it back anymore.

Roleclaim Vigilante Number 2

Shoot or be lynched.
Two_old
you already roleclaimed that

we are waiting for a shot, not for a roleclaim
anonymous_old

thepianist wrote:

Roleclaim Vigilante Number 2
I don't believe you.

0_o was vig number 2. You're vig number 1.

Vote: thepianist
Lilac
Look at that logic.

So flawless.
Two_old
hey mariobros777 maybe you could contribute something next time you post
thepianist
Unvote

Hmmm.
Tatsuo
Really now?
Vote: thepianist
thepianist
I am a cold blooded person

Shoot Dkun
bam

good night.

Edit: bad misreading of a pm. A<3, if you don't accept the mistake, the original typo was Derekku Chan.
anonymous_old
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

We were Mason buddies.

;_;
KRZY

DJ KRZY wrote:

What the hell is going on.
Two_old
cool unvote, vote adam2046

till ace gets back on, at least

also here is a log of something for fun http://pastebin.com/3LBb4m4s
Cuddlebun
heh oh the stupid mistakes I make

hurrrr Two guess what I am the Seer

huurrrrrr just kiddiiiiingg you're not suspicious at all are you hurrrrrrr
matthewtck
seriously...WHAT NOW!?!?!
0_o
GAH you weren't supposed to shoot Derekku ;_;
LadySuburu
If I'm still alive: Vote: 0_o

If I'm dead: Bleed all over 0_o's new carpet and his bed.
Chris_old
unvote, Vote adam2046
Derekku
Good job shooting an aux, pianist.

Vote: thepianist (again)
Two_old
oh really? what aux were you then
bearing019
Oh boy.

21:34   Cuddlebun       she told me DC is the unknown celebrity, how she knows that she didn't say
I told Wojjan that.
Derekku
Role Claim: Mad Scientist
anonymous_old
Shoot: Derekku
Chris_old
Stop putting fake shit and spam all over the thread.

ty.
Two_old
how many vials did you get, and who did you use them on, if anyone?
Derekku
One vial- which I was planning to use tonight; except that some people like to shoot first, ask questions later. :C
anonymous_old

Chris wrote:

Stop putting fake shit and spam all over the thread.

ty.
Oops, I meant to vote.

Vote: Derekku
Cuddlebun
where the fuck is our host maaaan there are sum votes to be taallieeeed

vote: Ival
nardii
Vote: Ace Of Hearts

Pressure.
nardii
Whoops.
Tatsuo

DJ KRZY wrote:

What the hell is going on.
nardii
Basically, the humans have won already, because we have an unbeatable ninja-insomniac combo. So now we could just wait and take out the wolves one by one every night, or we could try to figure out who the wolves are during the day to make the game go faster, which is what's going on now.
0_o
I was supposed to get that vial tonight :C
bearing019

I_Tatsuo_I wrote:

DJ KRZY wrote:

What the fuck is going on.
KRZY
Vote : Todesengal
Two_old
Why are you voting for todesengal when we want todesengal and wojjan to not be lynched today?
adam2046
Why is there so much blank space in your sig?
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows

0_o wrote:

..if he hollers let him go, eeney, meney, miney...

sorry.

BAM

The vigilante shoots LadySuburu.
Finally got my USB keyboard.

Anyway, I got to page 31 looking for lynch votes, then I saw this.

THIS IS A CONFIRMED VIGILANTE KILL.

LadySuburu is now dead and is out of the game.

* Today's lynching is CANCELLED.

* Sundown is extended to 8 PM tomorrow.
nardii

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

* Today's lynching is CANCELLED.

* Sundown is extended to 8 PM tomorrow.
yay :|
Derekku
So, uh, is thepianist's shot...?
Cuddlebun
maybe he hasn't read the remaining 4 pages
Two_old
I don't really get the point of extending the day when we already have too much time, with the number of players left.
0_o

Two wrote:

I don't really get the point of extending the day when we already have too much time, with the number of players left.
Not to mention there isn't a lynch today >_>
adam2046
Vote: 0_o
Suspiciousssssss
anonymous_old
I don't know who I'm voting for anymore.

Vote: thepianist
bearing019
Hey so thepianist was lying

Vote; thepianist
Hijiri Tezuka
Vote: thepianist What madness is this anymore?!
thepianist

DiamondCrash wrote:

Hey so thepianist was lying

Vote; thepianist
Where did you get that conclusion from~

I am so confused as to what is going on.
Wojjan

A<3 wrote:

* Today's lynching is CANCELLED.
bearing019
whatever
adam2046
Vote: Wojjan
Suspiciousssssss
dkun

I_Tatsuo_I wrote:

DJ KRZY wrote:

What the fuck is going on.

Two wrote:

I don't really get the point of extending the day when we already have too much time, with the number of players left.
This is madness. Even if lynching is canceled.
Vote: thepianist
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows

thepianist wrote:

I am a cold blooded person

Shoot Dkun
bam

good night.

Edit: bad misreading of a pm. A<3, if you don't accept the mistake, the original typo was Derekku Chan.
-is somewhere he has chosen not to lug his new usb keyboard to-

i need to pay more attention to my own wwg, seriously. which i will now be doing, starting tonight.

this is a second confirmed vigilante shot. -aiyaaaa-

dkun is now dead also, and is now also out of the game.

anyway, pencils down, we're gonna start night phase soon.

and also, deadline was extended due to being able to say whatever you wanted with no fear of getting lynched for it, but you guys've been doing that since day 2, basically. i ain't extending it again for a second shooting, btw -clearly-.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Night 4

we'll do 8 pm again, on thursday the 22nd. that'll give 2 days for pms to arrive in my pmbox.

and i will be paying more attention to it.
Two_old
so since rolled todesengal zerostarry dkun tatsuo mariobros and wojjan are all known, is the game over?

I know we're not supposed to talk at night but is it still night if the game is over
Cuddlebun
zero and I already admit the game's over, so you know
Tatsuo
I agree with Tode.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Dawn

In the morning, there was a body with fangs on the ground; this time it was Wojjan; looks like the Ninja got another one right.

Day 5

I think we all know what happens now.

Deadline: 8:00 PM EST on Monday, July 26.

Side Notes: I'm really hating my current Ninja rules. (You guys aren't the only ones; I'd said that.) Also, normally, I should penalize with PVs for Nighttalking, but you're trying to tell me my game is basically over. I have no rules saying anything about one team or the other can't simply agree to give up and admit defeat (which I should really instate next game). Though I'd much prefer not to have to do this, however, without revealing any IDs/saying whether or not any wolflists are correct, I can offer that if all the remaining living Vampires all individually PM me saying they wish to give up, I will declare a Human victory. Unless that occurs, this game is still operating under its stated rules (regardless of the level of brokenness thereof), and therefore can and will continue.
Two_old
welllll here is a role list

Civilians: whoatefred, LadySuburu, DJblackthorne, Chris, adam2046, strager, Oyashiro Beatrice, matthewtck
Psychic: me
Insomniac: nardi11011
Seer: DJ KRZY
Priest: Ivalset
Coroner: DeathxShinigami
Ninja: pieguy1372
Unknown Celebrity: DiamondCrash
Vigilante: 0_o, thepianist
Mad Scientist: Derekku Chan
Guardian Angel: ??? if there was one I would bet it was adam
Wolves: Rolled, Todesengal, Zerostarry, dkun, I_Tatsuo_I, MarioBros777, Wojjan
Cuddlebun
:B

ace I don't really blame you in particular, it was a combination of that goddamn ninja rule, shit luck for the wolves, and the super insomniac-psychic team. I am still a little annoyed over the revive-scan but whatever.

was mostly the insomniac-psychic team thing
Hijiri Tezuka
Wait....did we win?
bearing019
Now you can tell me, two. Who said they were the unknown celeb?
Two_old
no one but you did

this is the lia..werewolf game
pieguyn
Well, given that we already know who the wolves are... Vote: Todesengal
0_o
I'm a coroner now lolz
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