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Frostings
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Frostings
Just think Sm4,

How will you cope with life knowing you vanilllized yourself over some dumb idiot who thought it would be funny to choose VT over another "superior" role?
You'll live knowing you've been manipulated by the very people who you think are your friends, when in reality they just wanted to use your role for their purposes only, and you can only sit back and watch helplessly as your shot gets wasted and the scum laugh at their cunning and flawless plans of taking advantage of your innocent and naive self
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
I wouldn't be surprised if MB is the Goo, given Goo (regardless who is this) is cornered already.

===[]
Frostings
913 posts
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Frostings
Ok but on a serious note, chill out with that gun man. Don't go waving that thing around, it's loaded and very dangerous. No need to be so trigger-happy
MBomb
MBomb

DakeDekaane wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if MB is the Goo, given Goo (regardless who is this) is cornered already.

===[]
As I already said, if you think I'm the goo, lynch me before Ace.
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4
oh wait
you actually thought I would shoot you
No, I was just fishing for reactions. I know we have all day to figure this out.
Sorry, I know its a bit mean, but then again actually shooting you would be meaner.
I don't 100% believe you are evil. And that's why I want to wait on this.
MBomb
MBomb
And why is the goo cornered, you think? Who do you think it is?
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

Frostings wrote:

Ok but on a serious note, chill out with that gun man. Don't go waving that thing around, it's loaded and very dangerous. No need to be so trigger-happy
*Starts waving gun around wildly* "BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS HOW YOU PLAYED VIGILIANTE"
MBomb
MBomb
Personally taking bets on Navizel or pie being goo.
Frostings
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Frostings

Skullmaster4 wrote:

oh wait
you actually thought I would shoot you
No, I was just fishing for reactions. I know we have all day to figure this out.
Oh, yeah, haha. Yeah, I knew you were just kidding
Haha. Yeah..
Frostings
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Frostings
Never match me up with this guy ever again.
MBomb
MBomb
Don't know why, just gut feeling.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
We already know everything about the Goo faction, it's a single one, and a Grey one. If PRs doesn't target anyone for the until Day 3, we're pretty much safe of converting us into Goos, Goo's only hope is Mafia/Alien targetting them, but I don't think they would take the risk to target anyone, when they're currently in disadvantage too.
MBomb
MBomb
Skullmaster is town, Drezi is probably town.

metal sonic1 is probably town too.

Sakura is a null for me right now, not an alien though. (townie points for being against the massclaim at first though).

gif is null-scum (because stupid as fuck massclaim)
Frostings
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Frostings
Unvote
Vote: Navizel
Frostings
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Frostings
OUR PLAN WAS A SUCCESS

Navizel wrote:

Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Explain why you put MB on L-1 with 10 days left to go
MBomb
MBomb

DakeDekaane wrote:

We already know everything about the Goo faction, it's a single one, and a Grey one. If PRs doesn't target anyone for the until Day 3, we're pretty much safe of converting us into Goos, Goo's only hope is Mafia/Alien targetting them, but I don't think they would take the risk to target anyone, when they're currently in disadvantage too.
They'd maybe target someone who proved their roles.
Frostings
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Frostings

Frostings wrote:

OUR PLAN WAS A SUCCESS

Navizel wrote:

Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Explain why you put MB on L-1 with 10 days left to go
Oh is that L-2? OH RIP AWKWARD
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

We already know everything about the Goo faction, it's a single one, and a Grey one. If PRs doesn't target anyone for the until Day 3, we're pretty much safe of converting us into Goos, Goo's only hope is Mafia/Alien targetting them, but I don't think they would take the risk to target anyone, when they're currently in disadvantage too.
They'd maybe target someone who proved their roles.
If pieguy is truly Jailkeeper then we're safe.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
if.
Frostings
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Frostings
Dammit MB, you baited me with your "I can hammer myself to help town lulz"
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

Ace Timing wrote:

if.
goo goo goo
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
what colour would a goo pm be
Frostings
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Frostings
By the way, I just wanna mention the vote count looks absolutely fantastic. I'm not saying that with any sarcasm whatsoever. Everyone is voting (with the exception of Sm4 who's likely dayvig) and we see some clearly defined wagons :')

It actually makes me very happy, even though I'm one of the wagons
Frostings
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Frostings
Wait why is Ace voting for himself
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
because you guys were going to lynch me.
Sakura
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Sakura
we shoot first, that'll probably reset the votes, then we'll lynch you.
Frostings
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Frostings

Ace Timing wrote:

because you guys were going to lynch me.
Well, take it off and vote for somebody else. Voting for yourself doesn't make you town when there is literally zero wagon on you. You're sitting your vote on yourself saying "haha guys I'm helping town" and you give up pressure your voting pressure
Frostings
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Frostings

Frostings wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

because you guys were going to lynch me.
Well, take it off and vote for somebody else. Voting for yourself doesn't make you town when there is literally zero wagon on you. You're sitting your vote on yourself saying "haha guys I'm helping town" and you give up your voting pressure
Fixed that for me
Sakura
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Sakura
It is our duty to kill/lynch scum, just saying.
The method to achieve this doesn't matter.
Frostings
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Frostings
also, I still think Navizel is VERY suspicious with how he handled his vote on MB, basically encouraging SM4 (and others) to make a quick hammer, while trying to get townpoints for "saving his shot" when we know full well SM4 saving his shot does nothing because he's likely to get killed N1 if that happens
Sakura
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Sakura
Tbh.
I'd rather skull shoot sooner rather than later, otherwise im gonna put MB at L-1.
Sakura
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Sakura
The game's more or less solved for me and im just kinda waiting for stuff to happen.
Navizel
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Navizel

Frostings wrote:

OUR PLAN WAS A SUCCESS

Navizel wrote:

Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Explain why you put MB on L-1 with 10 days left to go
are you high
MBomb
MBomb
I want to die before any PRs. That's all.
MBomb
MBomb
Even though my role will be a lot more useless when people know who has it, at least it'll maybe make aliens and mafia shoot the same person out of fear.
MBomb
MBomb
(although honestly they probably won't, who knows though)
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
Vote: Jess
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer

Frostings wrote:

also, I still think Navizel is VERY suspicious with how he handled his vote on MB, basically encouraging SM4 (and others) to make a quick hammer, while trying to get townpoints for "saving his shot" when we know full well SM4 saving his shot does nothing because he's likely to get killed N1 if that happens
Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
MBomb
MBomb

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Frostings wrote:

also, I still think Navizel is VERY suspicious with how he handled his vote on MB, basically encouraging SM4 (and others) to make a quick hammer, while trying to get townpoints for "saving his shot" when we know full well SM4 saving his shot does nothing because he's likely to get killed N1 if that happens
Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
Anyone who's scumreading me at this point is an idiot tbh.
MBomb
MBomb
People want to lynch me to get rid of confusion.
MBomb
MBomb
@mod: prod anyone who can be prodded, please.
Frostings
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Frostings

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
It matters to me, because I don't know for certain if MB is town or scum, and I don't know for certain if Navi is town or scum. Even in a PR-filled game, day discussion is pretty useful for figuring out who IS town or scum, especially on Day 1, and anyone who suggests ending it quickly makes me scumread them
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Skullmaster is town, Drezi is probably town.

metal sonic1 is probably town too.

Sakura is a null for me right now, not an alien though. (townie points for being against the massclaim at first though).

gif is null-scum (because stupid as fuck massclaim)
Yeah I actually made everyone massclaim only for my own ducking amusement.
Duck your naive comments like that without properly ducking analyzing the entire ducking reason behind why I even suggested that ducking massclaim in a first place you bloody ducking explosive infused with supernatural forces.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
You lose if you read the f-word instead of the word describing a fluffy yellow avians btw.
Navizel
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Navizel

Frostings wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
It matters to me, because I don't know for certain if MB is town or scum, and I don't know for certain if Navi is town or scum. Even in a PR-filled game, day discussion is pretty useful for figuring out who IS town or scum, especially on Day 1, and anyone who suggests ending it quickly makes me scumread them
Can you not? You're just inferring that I want to end the day. Voting someone doesn't necessarily equate to wanting the discussion to end. It's not even a hammer.
MBomb
MBomb
Honestly, I'm not really a fan of this, the game just feels boring for me and I'm actually getting annoyed for the first time ever.

@mod: Look for a replacement for me, please.
MBomb
MBomb
My replacement will probably say my role, I'm the only person with this secretive of a playstyle.
Sakura
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Sakura
Don't worry, it's not your fault that you're scum and the setup was broken.
Zexion
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Zexion
@Magic Bomb: no one is in prod range.

So sleepy... so many books...

Votecount 1.7
- Magic Bomb - [4] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, DakeDekaane, Navizel
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1,
Ace Timing [1] - -[Jess]-,
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
-[Jess]- [1] - Ace Timing
Navizel [1] - Frostings
Skullmaster4 [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Sakura [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [1] - Skullmaster4
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Magic Bomb is being replaced. Looking into it right now
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
MBomb
MBomb
Actually, you know what, fuck it, I'm staying in. No point finding a replacement for one day.

@mod: I don't need a replacement, sorry about that, got a bit annoyed.
MBomb
MBomb

Sakura wrote:

Don't worry, it's not your fault that you're scum and the setup was broken.
Is this a scum claim?
MBomb
MBomb
Honestly, like I said, anyone "scumreading" me at this stage is just scum or stupid.
MBomb
MBomb
Frostings is probably town. Dake is town. Drezi is probably town. metal sonic1 is town. GIF is probably town. Skullmaster4 is town. I'm town.

That's 7 people, who in my eyes, are probably town.

There's 4 factions.

I would be ridiculously surprised if both mafia and aliens only had one person each.

Chances of Navizel knowing number of goo is high, as it'd be stupid to claim that (if there's any red goo they know you're lying) meaning I have reason to townread them.

Basically, 4 remaining people are most likely all scum or third parties.

I'm fine with lynching any of those 4 remaining people.

So Sakura, pieguy, Jess, and Ace Timing, I'd be fine with a lynch on any.

If you want me to die, let me hammer Ace.
Zexion
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Topic Starter
Zexion

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Actually, you know what, fuck it, I'm staying in. No point finding a replacement for one day.

@mod: I don't need a replacement, sorry about that, got a bit annoyed.

>_>
MBomb
MBomb
I'm not saying those 4 people are scum for sure, but by PoE and my current reads, they should be scum.

As much as I want to scumread GIF because of the massclaim, after reading through again I kinda understand why.
MBomb
MBomb
And the clairvoyant claim would be kinda weird to fakeclaim, unless he's mafia clairvoyant but they'd probably want to keep that information to themselves.
MBomb
MBomb
And yes I do believe both of the other two VT claims, even though I fakeclaimed VT.
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
i am starting to think frostings is town from AtE

help me pls
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
also the dino

90% the dino
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

You lose if you read the f-word instead of the word describing a fluffy yellow avians btw.


my favorite
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Unvote
Sakura
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Sakura

metal sonic1 wrote:

i am starting to think frostings is town from AtE

help me pls
If any reactions look townie out of the people that are under scrutinity are MB's, Frosty's still scum.
Sakura
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Sakura
I'd prefer more explanation on his townreads tho.
Sakura
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Sakura
Btw GIF, when you said there's 4 factions does that include town? or is there 4 anti-town factions.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
4 including town.

Also why must thou not want dake dead
Sakura
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Sakura
Dunno, Magic Bomb's townreading Dake and Drezi for no reason.
It's weird.
His read flip flopped on you after noticing you couldn't be pushed.

Still prefer Frosty over MB and MB over Dake, but eh, at this point is just a waiting game.

I'm kinda sad because it seems like im gonna be a mislynch option at some point when scum kills everyone townreading me if we fail at lynching them, im just kinda hoping Frosty flips scum otherwise im probably never playing with him again...
This is too much for me to take every single game we are together and you saw how it ended up in vocaloid upick.
Frostings
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Frostings
I'm not even doing anything mean this time :(

Sakura wrote:

im just kinda hoping Frosty flips scum otherwise im probably never playing with him again...
Hope you're half-joking because I got bad news for you....
And it would make me quite sad if you're serious regardless
I mean, I can see why I would be difficult to play with, but I'm not unbearable all the time, right guys?

guys???
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
I'm never letting Sakura get lynched
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
Ohhhhh haha did not read properly
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1

Sakura wrote:

metal sonic1 wrote:

i am starting to think frostings is town from AtE

help me pls
If any reactions look townie out of the people that are under scrutinity are MB's, Frosty's still scum.
yeaaaash it's probably because of the Dino


(On a side note I preferred your previous avatar<3)
MBomb
MBomb

Sakura wrote:

Dunno, Magic Bomb's townreading Dake and Drezi for no reason.
It's weird.
Dake I feel is definitely VT, I just can't see it as a fakeclaim from him.

Drezi's general commenting on the game I like (especially his last post where he brings to attention the only things he can see which would make Sakura change her idea on GIF/pieguy scum.
However, Drezi's general lack of posts bothers me, and that's probably the main reason why it's not a strong townread.
-[Jess]-
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-[Jess]-

Ace Timing wrote:

Vote: Jess
Any reasons of doing this?
-[Jess]-
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-[Jess]-
This game was hard to follow btw
Drezi
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Drezi
Skimmed the last few pages. I couldn't care less about the AtE, but it looks like noone would mind Frostings being killed off right away aside from MB maybe? It makes me hesitant about this tbh.

Also this stuck out:

Sakura wrote:

I'm kinda sad because it seems like im gonna be a mislynch option at some point when scum kills everyone townreading me if we fail at lynching them
Like what's the intent with this? Preemptive AtE basically, indirectly urging everyone townreading Sakura to hurry up and kill off her scumreads, else they'll turn the tables on them, not liking it.
Drezi
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Drezi
Also @MB I don't understand the Jess scumread, I'm pretty sure she was cursing her luck rolling scum again the last game I played with her, doubt she'd pick scum given the choice here + her claim makes it less likely too
Sakura
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1) Because obviously that's what's going to happen.
2) She discarded Alien, what makes you think she had a choice?
Sakura
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But I just went through Frosty's entire ISO for his reason to scumread me and all I find is this:

Frostings wrote:

Sakura wrote:

And would you be so kind to explain why do you think im scum
I got sick intuition that's usually wrong :oops:
On Vocaloid at least he expressed some reasons for scumreading me (i.e. a mistake I made), here he's not expressing anything about his scumread on me and just keeps disagreeing with me on everything, this shows scum trying to prevent town from taking control and eliminating him (In this case since im agreeing with GIF that'd be to try to prevent GIF from gaining supporters for his plan)
Drezi
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Drezi

Sakura wrote:

2) She discarded Alien, what makes you think she had a choice?
I'm not saying she had, but it's likely, 2x scumdraw is the least probable case + there's her claim. I'd be the first one to campaign for her lynch if I thought she had an average or higher chance of being scum -_-
-[Jess]-
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-[Jess]-
How bad is my luck?
Drezi
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Drezi
omg is that a scumclaim?
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

Also @MB I don't understand the Jess scumread, I'm pretty sure she was cursing her luck rolling scum again the last game I played with her, doubt she'd pick scum given the choice here + her claim makes it less likely too
Not a scumread, just PoE of my reads. Might not be best to follow if you're not having the same reads as me, it was more just me saying the lynches i'd be alright with.
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
dont like drezi atm........ seems scummy
Drezi
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Drezi
Vote: Jess

You really do have horrible luck, don't you? :S
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4
proddodge
Really though, there is like no conversations going on right now, uh...
Don't eat grass?
Stay in school?
k gj
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4
Ok, so non banter
Who would be against a dayvig on Drezi?
Navizel?
*I'm just pointing my gun at everyone at this point I swear.*
Sakura
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Sakura
why do you think Drezi is a better shot than the other 2?
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

Sakura wrote:

why do you think Drezi is a better shot than the other 2?
Not saying Drezi is. I am still considering the others. I'm just trying to figure out all of my options, and if everyone is against a certain choice then I know that it would be the wrong choice.
Zexion
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Topic Starter
Zexion
Hey, I think there's a computer on this library!... Damn, it has a password.

Votecount 1.8
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Navizel
Frostings [2] - Sakura, , metal sonic1
-[Jess]- [2] - Ace Timing, Drezi
Ace Timing [1] - -[Jess]-,
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
Navizel [1] - Frostings
Skullmaster4 [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Sakura [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [2] - Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Ace Timing and pieguyn have been prodded.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Zexion
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Zexion
PSA: I won't be able to do a votecount until about 24 hours later. Apologies for the inconvenience.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
why are people even voting mb again?
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
after reading through ISO, not really feeling the Frosting either.
Navizel
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Navizel

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Ok, so non banter
Who would be against a dayvig on Drezi?
Navizel?
*I'm just pointing my gun at everyone at this point I swear.*
Why exactly? I'm not satisfied with your answer on Sakura. Sounds like a lulz vig.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
@mod: this has probably been asked but what's the deal with non-alignment-specific roles? Do they default to town when chosen?
Zexion
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Topic Starter
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

@mod: this has probably been asked but what's the deal with non-alignment-specific roles? Do they default to town when chosen?
All roles that lack a non-town alignment (e.g. Cop) are town.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
Vote: Skullmaster
he's too jumpy with his dayvig offers, it looks like he's just offering to vig for the sake of offering, and his explanations for wanting each vig are sort of lackluster.

Makes me think of scum constantly trying to conf town himself by offering up use of his role to affirm that he didn't lie about it, making him seem more town.

I doubt he's fakeclaiming dayvig, I see nothing towny coming from his posts, and I really don't see him trying to figure out the game at all, which is weird, because even anti-town factions have to scum hunt to a degree. I guess his knowledge of not being town (and possibly his teammates as well if he has any) gives him a sort of complacency.
Sakura
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Sakura
Well mafia does have a 1-shot day vig, that's why he better listen or... yeah.
DakeDekaane
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Drezi wrote:

Also @MB I don't understand the Jess scumread, I'm pretty sure she was cursing her luck rolling scum again the last game I played with her, doubt she'd pick scum given the choice here + her claim makes it less likely too

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Not a scumread, just PoE of my reads. Might not be best to follow if you're not having the same reads as me, it was more just me saying the lynches i'd be alright with.

Drezi wrote:

Sakura wrote:

2) She discarded Alien, what makes you think she had a choice?
I'm not saying she had, but it's likely, 2x scumdraw is the least probable case + there's her claim. I'd be the first one to campaign for her lynch if I thought she had an average or higher chance of being scum -_-
:!: :!: :!:

-[Jess]- wrote:

How bad is my luck?

Drezi wrote:

omg is that a scumclaim?

Drezi wrote:

Vote: Jess

You really do have horrible luck, don't you? :S
:?: :?: :?:

Vote: Drezi
Frostings
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Frostings
prod dodgerino until tomorrow afternoon
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
im convinced
vote: drezi
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
also, where's pieguy?
oh yeah, too busy slapping himself
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