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Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
Zexion

Navizel wrote:

@mod, does the player who targets the Grey Goo becomes just a simple goo?
As the wiki says, any player who targets a Grey Goo would "lose all powers and win with goo's", so that's a "Vanilla Goo" if you would like to see it that way.

Why do I fear this is going to end in a gunfight...? I can't focus on my mathematics anymore!

Votecount 1.6
- Magic Bomb - [4] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings, DakeDekaane
Frostings [4] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1, Navizel
Ace Timing [2] - -[Jess]-, Ace Timing
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
Skullmaster4 [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [1] - Skullmaster4,
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
MBomb
MBomb
Seeing as no one seemed to comment on it, gonna post so people don't forget.

I'm not VT. That was a fakeclaim.

My role is not provable except in circumstances where a townie is lying about their role. Only person I can see doing this is Frostings, and I doubt he would hide his role if it was the one that would prove my role.

And no, I'm not roleclaiming.
MBomb
MBomb
Honestly, my motivation at this point is making me unwilling.

pieguy is scum.

I have a slight feeling Ace might be a fakeclaiming grey goo, but it's not a strong enough feeling, and is literally only because claiming supersaint means either someone has to target you or someone has to die, and town usually wouldn't let someone die so easily. But Ace's non-reluctance to get lynched points me away from this.

So basically, I have no idea who grey goo could be, but it may be good to try to speculate, as we don't want people targetting people just to get turned into grey goo N1 and have like 3 grey goos already at that point.
MBomb
MBomb
And yes, I do have a tendancy to think people are scum without much proper reasoning, it may be best to just not follow me on it, seeing as I do tend to be wrong, it seems. But I'll still follow my gut feeling of pie being scum.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
look at this

VT claimers slowly changing their claims.
MBomb
MBomb

GuyInFreezer wrote:

look at this

VT claimers slowly changing their claims.
I'm still VT as far as scum is concerned though, right? Don't want to get NKed because of my role ;)
Skullmaster4
0 posts
Joined February 2015
Skullmaster4
Ok. I think I am going to shoot MB soon.
I will do it in an hour from this message, so if anyone has an objection please tell me now.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm not VT. That was a fakeclaim.
Surprising!
MBomb
MBomb

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Ok. I think I am going to shoot MB soon.
I will do it in an hour from this message, so if anyone has an objection please tell me now.
Not an objection, just a warning about the backup. My role isn't provable.
MBomb
MBomb
(as i've already said)

also tbh scum would be stupid to not NK me.
Skullmaster4
0 posts
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Skullmaster4
MB
Please just claim your role now. If you don't claim you will die, and if you do claim you still have a low chance of surviving but not as bad
MBomb
MBomb
Nope. Kill me then.
MBomb
MBomb
I have no problem with you killing me. Firstly, it'll clear up some confusion, secondly, it'll at least stop you from turning into grey goo.
MBomb
MBomb
Oh and thirdly, I have no motivation for this game, all my reads so far have been so baseless, it's all just gutfeeling.
MBomb
MBomb
(doesn't change the fact pieguy is scum though)
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
MBomb
MBomb

Navizel wrote:

Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Oh? I thought we were agreeing to vote Ace. I'd be happy to hammer, if we are, I'll still die, if Ace isn't lying.
MBomb
MBomb
Either way, I'd at least prefer to die in a way that'll help town.
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I have no problem with you killing me. Firstly, it'll clear up some confusion, secondly, it'll at least stop you from turning into grey goo.
oh geez
uh
Is this a claim of grey goo or some claim against it?
I actually don't understand what the "Secondly" means.
Ok, so should we do our old plan of having MB Hammer Ace Timing and then I kill Frostings?
Frostings
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Joined May 2013
Frostings

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Seeing as no one seemed to comment on it, gonna post so people don't forget.

I'm not VT. That was a fakeclaim.

My role is not provable except in circumstances where a townie is lying about their role. Only person I can see doing this is Frostings, and I doubt he would hide his role if it was the one that would prove my role.

And no, I'm not roleclaiming.
lol this post is pretty suicidal
I actually think it's very antitown to fakeclaim whenever massclaims are happening, even if they occur on Day 1, since they're usually always town-driven. You'd need a really good reason, and a provable role, to fake your claim as town
This post was trying to bait any fakeclaimers from outing themselves, especially the other two VT claims
Sakura
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Sakura
I love how Frosty changes his story every other post.

3 people are dying today, 1 by dayvig, Ace and 1 by hammering Ace.

The dayvig must go first since the lynch ends the day (and scum could kill him)
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Ok, so should we do our old plan of having MB Hammer Ace Timing and then I kill Frostings?
No, we're gonna lose 2-3 town on Day 1 if that happens. Plus, doing it in that order doesn't even work because MB's hammer is gonna end the day.

I think dayvig is something you would fakeclaim, because it's 100% provable and outs you confirmed town once used. Normally you shouldn't dayvig on Day 1, but now we're in a strange situation it probably should happen lest we risk you getting NKd right away
Sakura
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Sakura
tbh skull idc which of the 2 you shoot, the other will hammer ace or be lynched. The dayvig must be used today or risk dying during the night before you can use it.
Sakura
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Sakura

Frostings wrote:

I think dayvig is something you would fakeclaim, because it's 100% provable and outs you confirmed town once used. Normally you shouldn't dayvig on Day 1, but now we're in a strange situation it probably should happen lest we risk you getting NKd right away
So he would fake claim something 100% provable, and it outs him as confirmed town?
WHat the hell?
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings

Sakura wrote:

I love how Frosty changes his story every other post.
c'mon Sakura, that was some brilliant AtE on my part. I gotta make scum feel more comfortable admitting to fakeclaiming
MBomb
MBomb
Either way I'm dying.

Literally no matter what happens, I should die either today or tonight (if scum keeps me alive then i will laugh my ass off).
MBomb
MBomb
Also, I should be obv town at this point.

Skullmaster, shoot me. At least then backup will definitely get a useful role, rather than supersaint.
MBomb
MBomb

Frostings wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Seeing as no one seemed to comment on it, gonna post so people don't forget.

I'm not VT. That was a fakeclaim.

My role is not provable except in circumstances where a townie is lying about their role. Only person I can see doing this is Frostings, and I doubt he would hide his role if it was the one that would prove my role.

And no, I'm not roleclaiming.
lol this post is pretty suicidal
I actually think it's very antitown to fakeclaim whenever massclaims are happening, even if they occur on Day 1, since they're usually always town-driven. You'd need a really good reason, and a provable role, to fake your claim as town
This post was trying to bait any fakeclaimers from outing themselves, especially the other two VT claims
I don't care if it's suicidal. My initial reason for fakeclaiming failed because town were stupid af.
Frostings
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Joined May 2013
Frostings

Sakura wrote:

So he would fake claim something 100% provable, and it outs him as confirmed town?
WHat the hell?
What? If I were dayvig, I would fakeclaim a different role (say VT), then when the time comes for me to make a day kill, I would claim dayvig, use it, and it would prove my role and confirm me town
MBomb
MBomb
And before anyone asks, yes, I'm salty af.

We kinda deserve to lose this tbh, that massclaim was bad.
MBomb
MBomb
Oh and if you think I'm grey goo for some reason, even though why the fuck would I point out that possibility if I was, lynch me instead. But this means probably losing dayvig tonight.
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4
Frostings will be shot in 15 minutes
*sorry I just wanted to make a really ominous post*
Also, I don't think MB is scum. I can explain why in a bit.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
claims wasn't too bad, I actually got solid reads from it.

Also @SM4, there is absolutely no rush. We have 10 days to think it over
Frostings
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Frostings

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Frostings will be shot in 15 minutes
*sorry I just wanted to make a really ominous post*
Also, I don't think MB is scum. I can explain why in a bit.
oh wtf rip me
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
Explain to me very clearly why I'm going to be shot in 15 minutes
If your reasoning is sound, I will die with dignity

Otherwise,

-Magic Bomb- wrote:

And before anyone asks, yes, I'm salty af.
Skullmaster4
0 posts
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Skullmaster4
Wouldn't it be funny if my whole 1-Shot day Vigilante claim was a lie and I have really just been stalling out my "kill" so I could get information and this has all been a huge gambit?
SPOILER
its not, but that would be funny
MBomb
MBomb

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Wouldn't it be funny if my whole 1-Shot day Vigilante claim was a lie and I have really just been stalling out my "kill" so I could get information and this has all been a huge gambit?
SPOILER
its not, but that would be funny
if it was then people would lynch you because apparently you can't fakeclaim as town lmao

despite the fact d1 massclaim is fucking stupid
Frostings
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Frostings
This is no time for jokes sm4 my life is on the line !!!

Frostings wrote:

Also @SM4, there is absolutely no rush. We have 10 days to think it over
*cough cough*
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
Just think Sm4,

How will you cope with life knowing you vanilllized yourself over some dumb idiot who thought it would be funny to choose VT over another "superior" role?
You'll live knowing you've been manipulated by the very people who you think are your friends, when in reality they just wanted to use your role for their purposes only, and you can only sit back and watch helplessly as your shot gets wasted and the scum laugh at their cunning and flawless plans of taking advantage of your innocent and naive self
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
I wouldn't be surprised if MB is the Goo, given Goo (regardless who is this) is cornered already.

===[]
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
Ok but on a serious note, chill out with that gun man. Don't go waving that thing around, it's loaded and very dangerous. No need to be so trigger-happy
MBomb
MBomb

DakeDekaane wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if MB is the Goo, given Goo (regardless who is this) is cornered already.

===[]
As I already said, if you think I'm the goo, lynch me before Ace.
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4
oh wait
you actually thought I would shoot you
No, I was just fishing for reactions. I know we have all day to figure this out.
Sorry, I know its a bit mean, but then again actually shooting you would be meaner.
I don't 100% believe you are evil. And that's why I want to wait on this.
MBomb
MBomb
And why is the goo cornered, you think? Who do you think it is?
Skullmaster4
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Skullmaster4

Frostings wrote:

Ok but on a serious note, chill out with that gun man. Don't go waving that thing around, it's loaded and very dangerous. No need to be so trigger-happy
*Starts waving gun around wildly* "BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS HOW YOU PLAYED VIGILIANTE"
MBomb
MBomb
Personally taking bets on Navizel or pie being goo.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings

Skullmaster4 wrote:

oh wait
you actually thought I would shoot you
No, I was just fishing for reactions. I know we have all day to figure this out.
Oh, yeah, haha. Yeah, I knew you were just kidding
Haha. Yeah..
Frostings
913 posts
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Frostings
Never match me up with this guy ever again.
MBomb
MBomb
Don't know why, just gut feeling.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
We already know everything about the Goo faction, it's a single one, and a Grey one. If PRs doesn't target anyone for the until Day 3, we're pretty much safe of converting us into Goos, Goo's only hope is Mafia/Alien targetting them, but I don't think they would take the risk to target anyone, when they're currently in disadvantage too.
MBomb
MBomb
Skullmaster is town, Drezi is probably town.

metal sonic1 is probably town too.

Sakura is a null for me right now, not an alien though. (townie points for being against the massclaim at first though).

gif is null-scum (because stupid as fuck massclaim)
Frostings
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Frostings
Unvote
Vote: Navizel
Frostings
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Joined May 2013
Frostings
OUR PLAN WAS A SUCCESS

Navizel wrote:

Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Explain why you put MB on L-1 with 10 days left to go
MBomb
MBomb

DakeDekaane wrote:

We already know everything about the Goo faction, it's a single one, and a Grey one. If PRs doesn't target anyone for the until Day 3, we're pretty much safe of converting us into Goos, Goo's only hope is Mafia/Alien targetting them, but I don't think they would take the risk to target anyone, when they're currently in disadvantage too.
They'd maybe target someone who proved their roles.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings

Frostings wrote:

OUR PLAN WAS A SUCCESS

Navizel wrote:

Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Explain why you put MB on L-1 with 10 days left to go
Oh is that L-2? OH RIP AWKWARD
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

We already know everything about the Goo faction, it's a single one, and a Grey one. If PRs doesn't target anyone for the until Day 3, we're pretty much safe of converting us into Goos, Goo's only hope is Mafia/Alien targetting them, but I don't think they would take the risk to target anyone, when they're currently in disadvantage too.
They'd maybe target someone who proved their roles.
If pieguy is truly Jailkeeper then we're safe.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
if.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
Dammit MB, you baited me with your "I can hammer myself to help town lulz"
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

Ace Timing wrote:

if.
goo goo goo
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
what colour would a goo pm be
Frostings
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Frostings
By the way, I just wanna mention the vote count looks absolutely fantastic. I'm not saying that with any sarcasm whatsoever. Everyone is voting (with the exception of Sm4 who's likely dayvig) and we see some clearly defined wagons :')

It actually makes me very happy, even though I'm one of the wagons
Frostings
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Frostings
Wait why is Ace voting for himself
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
because you guys were going to lynch me.
Sakura
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Sakura
we shoot first, that'll probably reset the votes, then we'll lynch you.
Frostings
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Frostings

Ace Timing wrote:

because you guys were going to lynch me.
Well, take it off and vote for somebody else. Voting for yourself doesn't make you town when there is literally zero wagon on you. You're sitting your vote on yourself saying "haha guys I'm helping town" and you give up pressure your voting pressure
Frostings
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Frostings

Frostings wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

because you guys were going to lynch me.
Well, take it off and vote for somebody else. Voting for yourself doesn't make you town when there is literally zero wagon on you. You're sitting your vote on yourself saying "haha guys I'm helping town" and you give up your voting pressure
Fixed that for me
Sakura
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Sakura
It is our duty to kill/lynch scum, just saying.
The method to achieve this doesn't matter.
Frostings
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Frostings
also, I still think Navizel is VERY suspicious with how he handled his vote on MB, basically encouraging SM4 (and others) to make a quick hammer, while trying to get townpoints for "saving his shot" when we know full well SM4 saving his shot does nothing because he's likely to get killed N1 if that happens
Sakura
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Sakura
Tbh.
I'd rather skull shoot sooner rather than later, otherwise im gonna put MB at L-1.
Sakura
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Sakura
The game's more or less solved for me and im just kinda waiting for stuff to happen.
Navizel
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Navizel

Frostings wrote:

OUR PLAN WAS A SUCCESS

Navizel wrote:

Here, I'll help. Save your 1-shot dayvig, Skull.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Explain why you put MB on L-1 with 10 days left to go
are you high
MBomb
MBomb
I want to die before any PRs. That's all.
MBomb
MBomb
Even though my role will be a lot more useless when people know who has it, at least it'll maybe make aliens and mafia shoot the same person out of fear.
MBomb
MBomb
(although honestly they probably won't, who knows though)
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
Vote: Jess
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer

Frostings wrote:

also, I still think Navizel is VERY suspicious with how he handled his vote on MB, basically encouraging SM4 (and others) to make a quick hammer, while trying to get townpoints for "saving his shot" when we know full well SM4 saving his shot does nothing because he's likely to get killed N1 if that happens
Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
MBomb
MBomb

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Frostings wrote:

also, I still think Navizel is VERY suspicious with how he handled his vote on MB, basically encouraging SM4 (and others) to make a quick hammer, while trying to get townpoints for "saving his shot" when we know full well SM4 saving his shot does nothing because he's likely to get killed N1 if that happens
Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
Anyone who's scumreading me at this point is an idiot tbh.
MBomb
MBomb
People want to lynch me to get rid of confusion.
MBomb
MBomb
@mod: prod anyone who can be prodded, please.
Frostings
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Frostings

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
It matters to me, because I don't know for certain if MB is town or scum, and I don't know for certain if Navi is town or scum. Even in a PR-filled game, day discussion is pretty useful for figuring out who IS town or scum, especially on Day 1, and anyone who suggests ending it quickly makes me scumread them
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Skullmaster is town, Drezi is probably town.

metal sonic1 is probably town too.

Sakura is a null for me right now, not an alien though. (townie points for being against the massclaim at first though).

gif is null-scum (because stupid as fuck massclaim)
Yeah I actually made everyone massclaim only for my own ducking amusement.
Duck your naive comments like that without properly ducking analyzing the entire ducking reason behind why I even suggested that ducking massclaim in a first place you bloody ducking explosive infused with supernatural forces.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
You lose if you read the f-word instead of the word describing a fluffy yellow avians btw.
Navizel
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Navizel

Frostings wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Why does it matter if he's doing that to a scumread?
It matters to me, because I don't know for certain if MB is town or scum, and I don't know for certain if Navi is town or scum. Even in a PR-filled game, day discussion is pretty useful for figuring out who IS town or scum, especially on Day 1, and anyone who suggests ending it quickly makes me scumread them
Can you not? You're just inferring that I want to end the day. Voting someone doesn't necessarily equate to wanting the discussion to end. It's not even a hammer.
MBomb
MBomb
Honestly, I'm not really a fan of this, the game just feels boring for me and I'm actually getting annoyed for the first time ever.

@mod: Look for a replacement for me, please.
MBomb
MBomb
My replacement will probably say my role, I'm the only person with this secretive of a playstyle.
Sakura
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Sakura
Don't worry, it's not your fault that you're scum and the setup was broken.
Zexion
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Topic Starter
Zexion
@Magic Bomb: no one is in prod range.

So sleepy... so many books...

Votecount 1.7
- Magic Bomb - [4] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, DakeDekaane, Navizel
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1,
Ace Timing [1] - -[Jess]-,
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
-[Jess]- [1] - Ace Timing
Navizel [1] - Frostings
Skullmaster4 [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Sakura [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Drezi [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [1] - Skullmaster4
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Magic Bomb is being replaced. Looking into it right now
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
MBomb
MBomb
Actually, you know what, fuck it, I'm staying in. No point finding a replacement for one day.

@mod: I don't need a replacement, sorry about that, got a bit annoyed.
MBomb
MBomb

Sakura wrote:

Don't worry, it's not your fault that you're scum and the setup was broken.
Is this a scum claim?
MBomb
MBomb
Honestly, like I said, anyone "scumreading" me at this stage is just scum or stupid.
MBomb
MBomb
Frostings is probably town. Dake is town. Drezi is probably town. metal sonic1 is town. GIF is probably town. Skullmaster4 is town. I'm town.

That's 7 people, who in my eyes, are probably town.

There's 4 factions.

I would be ridiculously surprised if both mafia and aliens only had one person each.

Chances of Navizel knowing number of goo is high, as it'd be stupid to claim that (if there's any red goo they know you're lying) meaning I have reason to townread them.

Basically, 4 remaining people are most likely all scum or third parties.

I'm fine with lynching any of those 4 remaining people.

So Sakura, pieguy, Jess, and Ace Timing, I'd be fine with a lynch on any.

If you want me to die, let me hammer Ace.
Zexion
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Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
Zexion

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Actually, you know what, fuck it, I'm staying in. No point finding a replacement for one day.

@mod: I don't need a replacement, sorry about that, got a bit annoyed.

>_>
MBomb
MBomb
I'm not saying those 4 people are scum for sure, but by PoE and my current reads, they should be scum.

As much as I want to scumread GIF because of the massclaim, after reading through again I kinda understand why.
MBomb
MBomb
And the clairvoyant claim would be kinda weird to fakeclaim, unless he's mafia clairvoyant but they'd probably want to keep that information to themselves.
MBomb
MBomb
And yes I do believe both of the other two VT claims, even though I fakeclaimed VT.
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
i am starting to think frostings is town from AtE

help me pls
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1
also the dino

90% the dino
metal sonic1
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metal sonic1

GuyInFreezer wrote:

You lose if you read the f-word instead of the word describing a fluffy yellow avians btw.


my favorite
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
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Sakura
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Sakura

metal sonic1 wrote:

i am starting to think frostings is town from AtE

help me pls
If any reactions look townie out of the people that are under scrutinity are MB's, Frosty's still scum.
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