yeah and how does that translate to any tangible advice here and now?Sakura wrote:
12 players mean that it's entirely possible only 50% of the players are town btw, be wary.
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Drezi, if you look at the discarded roles, you can see Skullmaster discarded Town Cop, and that's like, what?, but knowing he could play better with another town role, that's why I unvoted.
As for the FoS, the suspicious for that can rise obviously, so uhm, yeah.
As for the FoS, the suspicious for that can rise obviously, so uhm, yeah.
Why so?Drezi wrote:
Also I think Jess is town.
You do know that cop gets mafia/not mafia only and there could be 3 different scum factions in this game right?
Yeah, that's why I think he could've discarded it. But let's try to not think about it that much.
I'm more concerned about the Town Coroner discards tbh.
I'm more concerned about the Town Coroner discards tbh.
But again, not like that'd be revealing info.
hi MS. are you town?
<3Sakura wrote:
Also im 95% sure i know who this metal sonic guy is, and im also not going to policy lynch him because i believe in second chances.
(i invited him over here btw if that wasn't obvious from all my fufufu-ing ~)
Hello.
There are 4 factions in this game.
GIF out
...for now.
There are 4 factions in this game.
GIF out
...for now.
Actually before I leave
We will commence massclaiming.
Thanks and have a great night.
We will commence massclaiming.
Thanks and have a great night.
I'd be up for it.
I don't mind.
There's no option for this one.
Claim upon your next post.
Inb4 "GIF you claim too"
(To be honest you discarding town card makes you town but massclaiming)
Claim upon your next post.
Inb4 "GIF you claim too"
(To be honest you discarding town card makes you town but massclaiming)
Don't say your opinion about massclaiming.
Just claim please.
Just claim please.
Here's my claim:
Vote: GIF
Vote: GIF
Scared?
Because knowing the # of total factions with quick massclaim gives town a great headstart
Because knowing the # of total factions with quick massclaim gives town a great headstart
oh crap
I'm already being put under suspicion, and I don't blame you.
I discarded Town Cop for two main reasons, One, I was a Town weak cop last game, and I kinda wanted to try a diffrent role then cop.
Second, I thought the other card would be slightly more beneficial to the town.
Anyway, I do agree that everyone who discarded town cards should be watched, even if that includes me. But with how this setup goes, anyone who discarded Alien and Mafia cards aren't completely off the hook, and it's entirely possible for someone to get two town cards.
Also, the people who just bandwagoned me is suspicous. I understand RVS at the start of the game, and it is suspicous for me to simply discard a Town Cop card, so the first person who voted is probably fine, but I have the same chance of being evil as everyone else who discarded town.
Anyways, I'm going to look back at some posts and I may vote.
I'm already being put under suspicion, and I don't blame you.
I discarded Town Cop for two main reasons, One, I was a Town weak cop last game, and I kinda wanted to try a diffrent role then cop.
Second, I thought the other card would be slightly more beneficial to the town.
Anyway, I do agree that everyone who discarded town cards should be watched, even if that includes me. But with how this setup goes, anyone who discarded Alien and Mafia cards aren't completely off the hook, and it's entirely possible for someone to get two town cards.
Also, the people who just bandwagoned me is suspicous. I understand RVS at the start of the game, and it is suspicous for me to simply discard a Town Cop card, so the first person who voted is probably fine, but I have the same chance of being evil as everyone else who discarded town.
Anyways, I'm going to look back at some posts and I may vote.
MBomb
How does that even find the total # of factions?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Scared?
Because knowing the # of total factions with quick massclaim gives town a great headstart
No role is worth saving in this setup especially when we are expecting at most 3 anti-town nightkills.
We are not gonna nightplay this setup.
We're gonna dayplay it before scums rip us apart.
We are not gonna nightplay this setup.
We're gonna dayplay it before scums rip us apart.
I literally said in my first post that there are 4 factions in this game.
MBomb
Ok fine, but dont make me regret it later.
I'm a town tracker.
I'm a town tracker.
Also
Unvote
Unvote
town jailkeeper
Claim now or I will assume that you're frantically looking at the list for a fakeclaim.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I could claim, but I don't like that idea.
MBomb
Now you have your next post to tell me why it was a good idea to claim D1 as a town tracker or i'm going to vote you and never unvote you for the rest of today.
vote: - Magic Bomb -
I am also against a mass claim.
While it may be beneficial in finding scum, the scum would know pretty much all the roles they need to target. And I don't want all of our power roles being NK'd N1.
While it may be beneficial in finding scum, the scum would know pretty much all the roles they need to target. And I don't want all of our power roles being NK'd N1.
Tracker is useless in role madness in terms of catching scum via visits.
Who says that's all a tracker does?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Tracker is useless in role madness in terms of catching scum via visits.
Actually, I think I'll wait until the others have claimed.
But i totally can't catch scum fake claiming or confirming town targets, am i right?
what GIF said is theoretically sound
"scum knowing all the roles they need to target" is a poor argument in a game where practically everyone is going to have some sort of PR
same thing with "lol PRs being killed N1", especially when there could be up to 3 kills/night.
"scum knowing all the roles they need to target" is a poor argument in a game where practically everyone is going to have some sort of PR
same thing with "lol PRs being killed N1", especially when there could be up to 3 kills/night.
Did you read my post?Skullmaster4 wrote:
I am also against a mass claim.
While it may be beneficial in finding scum, the scum would know pretty much all the roles they need to target. And I don't want all of our power roles being NK'd N1.
We are NOT going to use our PRs to find scum.
We dont have time for that with potential 3+ nightkills per night.
Our priority is to get as many as town as posible.
tldr: don't fuck around being like "ono massclaim :<:<", just do it. it'll pay off later.
this post is scummy af btw- Magic Bomb - wrote:
If I roleclaim you're gonna take it as a fakeclaim anyway.
Tracker gets only useful in late game.Sakura wrote:
But i totally can't catch scum fake claiming or confirming town targets, am i right?
With 4 factions there's no late game.
MBomb
Vote: MB
Scum #1
Scum #1
lol- Magic Bomb - wrote:
cool, as are you.
You're already assuming 4 factions.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Tracker gets only useful in late game.Sakura wrote:
But i totally can't catch scum fake claiming or confirming town targets, am i right?
With 4 factions there's no late game.
While the possbility is there, there is no guarantee that there's that many.
This AtP to get claims is scumm af
Vote: GIF
FoS: pieguyn
There are no roles in this game that will sound fake because this is a semi-open game.
read the role listSakura wrote:
You're already assuming 4 factions.
While the possbility is there, there is no guarantee that there's that many.
This AtP to get claims is scumm af
Vote: GIF
FoS: pieguyn
MBomb
I'm not assuming 4 factions.
I know there are 4 factions.
I'm a clairvoyant.
I know there are 4 factions.
I'm a clairvoyant.
*sigh*GuyInFreezer wrote:
Did you read my post?Skullmaster4 wrote:
I am also against a mass claim.
While it may be beneficial in finding scum, the scum would know pretty much all the roles they need to target. And I don't want all of our power roles being NK'd N1.
We are NOT going to use our PRs to find scum.
We dont have time for that with potential 3+ nightkills per night.
Our priority is to get as many as town as posible.
I understand how scummy I am being, I really do, but I have an important reason to not want to claim.
I can't say anymore.
If you're town why the help do you care about your claim sounding fake?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
lmao trying to scumpaint me for not roleclaiming.
it's gonna be taken as a fakeclaim anyway because it'd be an obvious thing to fakeclaim.
You're telling the truth after all.
Oh so that's what clairvoyant does?GuyInFreezer wrote:
I'm not assuming 4 factions.
I know there are 4 factions.
I'm a clairvoyant.
I just looked at the roles list and i still don't get it.
MBomb
Because it's what I would fakeclaim if I was scum.GuyInFreezer wrote:
If you're town why the help do you care about your claim sounding fake?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
lmao trying to scumpaint me for not roleclaiming.
it's gonna be taken as a fakeclaim anyway because it'd be an obvious thing to fakeclaim.
You're telling the truth after all.
So that still doesn't help me.
You could be mafia wanting to out the ammount of roles.
I don't understand this strategy nor why or how it'll help us.
You could be mafia wanting to out the ammount of roles.
I don't understand this strategy nor why or how it'll help us.
More factions = less chances of having duplicate roles as town.
By the way, one of the factions is a Grey Goo.
No other goos exist.
for fuck's sakepieguyn wrote:
what GIF said is theoretically sound
"scum knowing all the roles they need to target" is a poor argument in a game where practically everyone is going to have some sort of PR
same thing with "lol PRs being killed N1", especially when there could be up to 3 kills/night.
please don't make me wall theory about why D1 massclaim is a good idea in this setup. you're also missing that the point of doing it instantaneously is so that scum don't have any time to plan a claim/are forced into a suboptimal claim that might fuck them over.
Meanwhile im starting to regret inning to this game if we're just gonna game the system instead of playing actual mafia.
Non-closed-setup will always have an optimization of playing.
But not enough optimization to just gamebreak with it alone.
But not enough optimization to just gamebreak with it alone.
MBomb
MBomb
Keep the claims going
MBomb
Actually, this claim does make a bit of sense.
I say we trust MB for now, but keep watching him.
I say we trust MB for now, but keep watching him.
Claim
It's very antitown to not claim when massclaim is going.
It's very antitown to not claim when massclaim is going.
He just asked to claim your role, no need to get that deep.
I got only vanilla roles so take a guess.
I got only vanilla roles so take a guess.
Dunno, this seems way too crazy.
I still think GIF and pieguyn are scum.
I don't believe that you can easily break the system enough to find all the scum with this in forum mafia and probably chat/F2F would be beter (i.e. metal sonic isn't around and probably wont be around for a few hours, so he can very well read up and make something up if scum). This is not optimal and both GIF and pie should know this, this wont work, and while i can believe GIF's claim, that doesn't mean I believe he's town or has town motivation for this strategy.
I still think GIF and pieguyn are scum.
I don't believe that you can easily break the system enough to find all the scum with this in forum mafia and probably chat/F2F would be beter (i.e. metal sonic isn't around and probably wont be around for a few hours, so he can very well read up and make something up if scum). This is not optimal and both GIF and pie should know this, this wont work, and while i can believe GIF's claim, that doesn't mean I believe he's town or has town motivation for this strategy.
Plus, I want to know why you ditched town cop which is one of the strongest role in this game.
Also i love how pieguy says everyone's going to "be a PR" and we got 2 VTs already.
I can see where are you getting at, poor of us.
It's not, COAT is.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Plus, I want to know why you ditched town cop which is one of the strongest role in this game.
MBomb
So you better get started on this if you want to convince me that this is actually a good idea.pieguyn wrote:
please don't make me wall theory about why D1 massclaim is a good idea in this setup
Mafia are the only anti-town faction in this game that are very threatening because of the consecutive nightkills.
Third parties can't kill, goos can't kill, and aliens iirc can only make one nightkill. Any anti-mafia roles are very strong in this game.
Third parties can't kill, goos can't kill, and aliens iirc can only make one nightkill. Any anti-mafia roles are very strong in this game.
tbh I can't see both GIF and pieguy as Mafia/Alien buddies, it's a big risk I doubt they'll be wanting to run, given there could be another killing faction (in case they are one).
Alternatively, we could lynch one to clear the other.
If you believe my clairvoyant claim, I can only be town or mafia.
Unless one is buddying the other, in that case, I take back my words.
Topic Starter
And everyone chose to take the democratic way of finding the culprits. I'm just glad I'm hiding here instead of being out there... where I can be killed... that's scary.
Meanwhile, I am only able to find calculus books...
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC. That is exactly 12 days from now on.
Deadline for confirmations is exactly 24 hours after this post, December 13th, 9:40PM UTC.
Meanwhile, I am only able to find calculus books...
Votecount 1.1
- Magic Bomb - [2] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
GuyInFreezer [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Not Voting [6] - -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Frostings, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
- Magic Bomb - [2] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
GuyInFreezer [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Not Voting [6] - -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Frostings, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC. That is exactly 12 days from now on.
Deadline for confirmations is exactly 24 hours after this post, December 13th, 9:40PM UTC.
Also third parties in this game has no reason to hide their claim so via massclaiming we will know exactly which factions are in play.
Yet you were talking about potential 3+ kills a night...GuyInFreezer wrote:
Mafia are the only anti-town faction in this game that are very threatening because of the consecutive nightkills.
Third parties can't kill, goos can't kill, and aliens iirc can only make one nightkill. Any anti-mafia roles are very strong in this game.
Yeaaah no.
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
In that time we didn't know there was no Red Goo, so yeah.
1) Don't edit your postsSkullmaster4 wrote:
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
2) Please shoot GIF then.
Aliens can make a separate nightkills iirc.
Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
I'm fine with dying btw
It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.
It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.
Although Aliens have limited NKs, 3 isn't a nice number.
Topic Starter
Not again. Please, Don't edit your post under any circumstances. This is a warning for everyone: next one to edit their posts will be modkilled.Skullmaster4 wrote:
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
MBomb
There is NO Red Goo. Only GREY. No other Goos either.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Aliens can make a separate nightkills iirc.
Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
Yeah, I got caught on that one didn't I.Sakura wrote:
1) Don't edit your postsSkullmaster4 wrote:
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
2) Please shoot GIF then.
I was just editing out a mistyped "I". No game changing info, so don't worry, but it's a rule nevertheless. I apologies and I won't do it again.
Also, I am not going to shoot anyone yet, I'm going to wait a bit. Shooting a townie might end up losing the town the game.
RVS reads:
town
gif
pieguy
sm4
not town, same faction:
mb sakura
supicious:
Drezi ms1
Vote: MB
town
gif
pieguy
sm4
not town, same faction:
mb sakura
supicious:
Drezi ms1
Vote: MB
I don't understand Drezi voting me after our exchange.