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Cracking Idea Mafia [Game Over]

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Ace Timing
Hika pls
Topic Starter
Zexion
All slots have been filled! Now randomizing and sending role cards.
Topic Starter
Zexion
All role cards have been sent. Players have 24 hours to send back their choice.

Progress: 11/11
Skullmaster4
I...
Dang i'm late.
Put me in as a backup if you can.
Sakura

metal sonic1 wrote:

/in
This game is certainly full of surprises
Topic Starter
Zexion
Due to an error from my side, all non-town win conditions (excluding Lyncher and Pseudojester) have been changed to the following:

"You win when all players without a <alignment> wincon are eliminated and at least one <alignment>-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same)"

Sample PM's have been updated.
Frostings
please no reroll I got my favourite role :)
Topic Starter
Zexion
Waiting for two people.
Navizel
This is going to be tanoshii
Batujitsu
Can I join as sub or am I too late?
/replace
Topic Starter
Zexion
Skullmaster4 joins the game as the 12th player. Waiting for two people. one person!
Drezi
GiF is that you? >.>
Skullmaster4
Woo. I'm in
Lets hope to not getting dayvigged D1. :?
Topic Starter
Zexion
All players have seen their choices - and we have a valid setup!

Role PM's are going soon.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Role PM's have been sent! Game starts when 9 players confirm.
Skullmaster4
/confirm
I think that's how you do it.
Sakura
/confirm
Drezi
conf
Navizel
hehehehehehehehehehehe conf
Frostings
confirm :)
DakeDekaane
Confirmation post.
MBomb
/conf
GuyInFreezer
/confirm
Ace Timing
/conf
Topic Starter
Zexion
With 9/12 confirmations, the game has officialy started!

"As I stepped into the building I felt an air of unease. These kind of reunions were good for normal times, but these were barely normal times. Lots of weird stuff had been going on in the town lately, including reports about mafiosi taking over, mysterious flying saucers and some kind of slimes appearing. Everything was just speculation of course... but this was certanly not a good time for a reunion of these sorts.

To my suprise the whole town was here, which probably meant this was more like a reunion to try to find out what's going with our town.
Before I even managed to enter the building a message sounded in the speakers, by how it sounded, it shounded like being pre-recorded.

"Welcome everyone. As you might have suspected, I have summoned you all 12 because the emergency our town is facing.
I am certain that amoung you there are certain individuals who wish to bring harm upon our lovely town, therefore I have determined that you should
settle this within yourselves and bring the criminals to justice."

Wait, 12? With me, we were 13... or maybe I wasn't supposed to be here? There was a brief moment of silence after the mysterious voice spoke, but suddenly...

"What? What gives you the right to decide that?"
"Shouldn't we like, call the police"
"Yeah this idea is nuts!"
"I think this might be a good idea"
"Afraid the police may find out your misdonings?
"Hey, I didn't like the sound of that"
"Maybe you're the criminal we're looking for!"
"I dare you to say that again!"
"Maybe that black hooded guy is the... wait, where did he go?"

Suddenly everyone was arguing about what to do, as no one had noticed me I quickly stepped away into a side door to find myself in a library. I couldn't
leave because of the risk of someone spotting me, since I apparently wasn't supposed to be here, but there were lots of books to read while I heard a strange discussion happening next door.. hopefully I could get outta here..."


Discards:
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop.
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon.
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch.
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie.
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet.
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon.
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard.
Navizel discarded Lynchbait.
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner.
Drezi discarded Town Coroner.
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant.
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop.

Votecount 1.0
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Skullmaster4 [0] -

Not Voting [12] - - Magic Bomb -, Ace Timing, GuyInFreezer, Sakura, -[Jess]-, DakeDekaane, pieguyn, Navizel, metal sonic1, Drezi, Frostings, Skullmaster4
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC. That is exactly 12 days from now on.
Deadline for confirmations is exactly 24 hours after this post, December 13th, 9:40PM UTC.
Navizel
Vote: Skullmaster4
Ace Timing
Vote: metal sonic1
FoS: Drezi, Skullmaster
Sakura
Vote: Skullmaster
Hi guys
DakeDekaane
mfw

Vote: Skullmaster4

choo choo
Ace Timing
nvm, I thought the coroner does something different from what it does
Unvote
Sakura
12 players mean that it's entirely possible only 50% of the players are town btw, be wary.
Sakura
Also im 95% sure i know who this metal sonic guy is, and im also not going to policy lynch him because i believe in second chances.
DakeDekaane
Actually, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.

Unvote

FoS: Navizel
Drezi
Vote: Magic Bomb

Dake what benefit of doubt, why aren't you voting Navizel at least if you unvoted?
Drezi

Sakura wrote:

12 players mean that it's entirely possible only 50% of the players are town btw, be wary.
yeah and how does that translate to any tangible advice here and now?
Drezi
Also I think Jess is town.
DakeDekaane
Drezi, if you look at the discarded roles, you can see Skullmaster discarded Town Cop, and that's like, what?, but knowing he could play better with another town role, that's why I unvoted.

As for the FoS, the suspicious for that can rise obviously, so uhm, yeah.
DakeDekaane

Drezi wrote:

Also I think Jess is town.
Why so?
Drezi
You do know that cop gets mafia/not mafia only and there could be 3 different scum factions in this game right?
DakeDekaane
Yeah, that's why I think he could've discarded it. But let's try to not think about it that much.

I'm more concerned about the Town Coroner discards tbh.
DakeDekaane
But again, not like that'd be revealing info.
Drezi
Vote: Dake
pieguyn
hi MS. are you town?
pieguyn

Sakura wrote:

Also im 95% sure i know who this metal sonic guy is, and im also not going to policy lynch him because i believe in second chances.
<3

(i invited him over here btw if that wasn't obvious from all my fufufu-ing ~)
GuyInFreezer
Hello.

There are 4 factions in this game.

GIF out

...for now.
GuyInFreezer
Actually before I leave

We will commence massclaiming.

Thanks and have a great night.
pieguyn
I'd be up for it.
Navizel
I don't mind.
GuyInFreezer
There's no option for this one.

Claim upon your next post.

Inb4 "GIF you claim too"
(To be honest you discarding town card makes you town but massclaiming)
GuyInFreezer
Don't say your opinion about massclaiming.

Just claim please.
Sakura
Here's my claim:
Vote: GIF
GuyInFreezer
Scared?

Because knowing the # of total factions with quick massclaim gives town a great headstart
MBomb
I would be against a massclaim.
Skullmaster4
oh crap
I'm already being put under suspicion, and I don't blame you.
I discarded Town Cop for two main reasons, One, I was a Town weak cop last game, and I kinda wanted to try a diffrent role then cop.
Second, I thought the other card would be slightly more beneficial to the town.
Anyway, I do agree that everyone who discarded town cards should be watched, even if that includes me. But with how this setup goes, anyone who discarded Alien and Mafia cards aren't completely off the hook, and it's entirely possible for someone to get two town cards.
Also, the people who just bandwagoned me is suspicous. I understand RVS at the start of the game, and it is suspicous for me to simply discard a Town Cop card, so the first person who voted is probably fine, but I have the same chance of being evil as everyone else who discarded town.
Anyways, I'm going to look back at some posts and I may vote.
MBomb
Vote: - Magic Bomb -

judging people based off what they discarded isn't the best idea btw
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Scared?

Because knowing the # of total factions with quick massclaim gives town a great headstart
How does that even find the total # of factions?
GuyInFreezer
No role is worth saving in this setup especially when we are expecting at most 3 anti-town nightkills.

We are not gonna nightplay this setup.
We're gonna dayplay it before scums rip us apart.
GuyInFreezer
I literally said in my first post that there are 4 factions in this game.
MBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Vote: - Magic Bomb -

judging people based off what they discarded isn't the best idea btw
*hence why i'm acting as if RVS isn't over
Sakura
Ok fine, but dont make me regret it later.

I'm a town tracker.
Sakura
Also
Unvote
MBomb
I could claim, but I don't like that idea.
pieguyn
town jailkeeper
GuyInFreezer

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I could claim, but I don't like that idea.
Claim now or I will assume that you're frantically looking at the list for a fakeclaim.
MBomb

GuyInFreezer wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I could claim, but I don't like that idea.
Claim now or I will assume that you're frantically looking at the list for a fakeclaim.
If I roleclaim you're gonna take it as a fakeclaim anyway.
Sakura
Now you have your next post to tell me why it was a good idea to claim D1 as a town tracker or i'm going to vote you and never unvote you for the rest of today.
pieguyn
:|

vote: - Magic Bomb -
Skullmaster4
I am also against a mass claim.
While it may be beneficial in finding scum, the scum would know pretty much all the roles they need to target. And I don't want all of our power roles being NK'd N1.
GuyInFreezer
Tracker is useless in role madness in terms of catching scum via visits.
MBomb
Also, I'd just like to now

Unvote
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Tracker is useless in role madness in terms of catching scum via visits.
Who says that's all a tracker does?
Navizel
Actually, I think I'll wait until the others have claimed.
Sakura
But i totally can't catch scum fake claiming or confirming town targets, am i right?
pieguyn
what GIF said is theoretically sound

"scum knowing all the roles they need to target" is a poor argument in a game where practically everyone is going to have some sort of PR

same thing with "lol PRs being killed N1", especially when there could be up to 3 kills/night.
GuyInFreezer

Skullmaster4 wrote:

I am also against a mass claim.
While it may be beneficial in finding scum, the scum would know pretty much all the roles they need to target. And I don't want all of our power roles being NK'd N1.
Did you read my post?

We are NOT going to use our PRs to find scum.
We dont have time for that with potential 3+ nightkills per night.

Our priority is to get as many as town as posible.
pieguyn
tldr: don't fuck around being like "ono massclaim :<:<", just do it. it'll pay off later.
pieguyn

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If I roleclaim you're gonna take it as a fakeclaim anyway.
this post is scummy af btw
GuyInFreezer

Sakura wrote:

But i totally can't catch scum fake claiming or confirming town targets, am i right?
Tracker gets only useful in late game.
With 4 factions there's no late game.
MBomb

pieguyn wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If I roleclaim you're gonna take it as a fakeclaim anyway.
this post is scummy af btw
cool, as are you.
GuyInFreezer
Vote: MB

Scum #1
pieguyn

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

cool, as are you.
lol
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sakura wrote:

But i totally can't catch scum fake claiming or confirming town targets, am i right?
Tracker gets only useful in late game.
With 4 factions there's no late game.
You're already assuming 4 factions.
While the possbility is there, there is no guarantee that there's that many.
This AtP to get claims is scumm af

Vote: GIF
FoS: pieguyn
GuyInFreezer
There are no roles in this game that will sound fake because this is a semi-open game.
pieguyn

Sakura wrote:

You're already assuming 4 factions.
While the possbility is there, there is no guarantee that there's that many.
This AtP to get claims is scumm af

Vote: GIF
FoS: pieguyn
read the role list
MBomb
lmao trying to scumpaint me for not roleclaiming.

it's gonna be taken as a fakeclaim anyway because it'd be an obvious thing to fakeclaim.
GuyInFreezer
I'm not assuming 4 factions.

I know there are 4 factions.

I'm a clairvoyant.
Skullmaster4

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

I am also against a mass claim.
While it may be beneficial in finding scum, the scum would know pretty much all the roles they need to target. And I don't want all of our power roles being NK'd N1.
Did you read my post?

We are NOT going to use our PRs to find scum.
We dont have time for that with potential 3+ nightkills per night.

Our priority is to get as many as town as posible.
*sigh*
I understand how scummy I am being, I really do, but I have an important reason to not want to claim.
I can't say anymore.
MBomb
I don't have an important reason not to claim, I just don't want to. :D
GuyInFreezer

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

lmao trying to scumpaint me for not roleclaiming.

it's gonna be taken as a fakeclaim anyway because it'd be an obvious thing to fakeclaim.
If you're town why the help do you care about your claim sounding fake?

You're telling the truth after all.
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I'm not assuming 4 factions.

I know there are 4 factions.

I'm a clairvoyant.
Oh so that's what clairvoyant does?

I just looked at the roles list and i still don't get it.
MBomb

GuyInFreezer wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

lmao trying to scumpaint me for not roleclaiming.

it's gonna be taken as a fakeclaim anyway because it'd be an obvious thing to fakeclaim.
If you're town why the help do you care about your claim sounding fake?

You're telling the truth after all.
Because it's what I would fakeclaim if I was scum.
GuyInFreezer
Sakura
So that still doesn't help me.
You could be mafia wanting to out the ammount of roles.

I don't understand this strategy nor why or how it'll help us.
GuyInFreezer
More factions = less chances of having duplicate roles as town.
Navizel
By the way, one of the factions is a Grey Goo.
Navizel
No other goos exist.
pieguyn

pieguyn wrote:

what GIF said is theoretically sound

"scum knowing all the roles they need to target" is a poor argument in a game where practically everyone is going to have some sort of PR

same thing with "lol PRs being killed N1", especially when there could be up to 3 kills/night.
for fuck's sake

please don't make me wall theory about why D1 massclaim is a good idea in this setup. you're also missing that the point of doing it instantaneously is so that scum don't have any time to plan a claim/are forced into a suboptimal claim that might fuck them over.
Sakura
Meanwhile im starting to regret inning to this game if we're just gonna game the system instead of playing actual mafia.
GuyInFreezer
Non-closed-setup will always have an optimization of playing.
But not enough optimization to just gamebreak with it alone.
MBomb
fuck it i give up on hiding my role

i picked vt

discarded that card because i picked mafia in my last game similar to this and honestly just kinda found it annoying to play in a setup like this.

didn't want to rc so that i may get targetted N1 to save a PR.
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