2015-11-07 00:30 pwhk: hi
2015-11-07 00:39 Blocko: AND WE'RE BAAAACK
2015-11-07 00:39 Blocko: u redy
2015-11-07 00:39 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 00:40 Blocko: alright so lemme check the general stuff first
2015-11-07 00:40 Blocko: bg is 1366x768: nice
2015-11-07 00:43 pwhk: the original is too small so I asked ringating to improve it, a year ago
2015-11-07 00:43 pwhk: lol
2015-11-07 00:43 pwhk: (the one who has a "BG improvement" queue)
2015-11-07 00:43 Blocko: oh noice
2015-11-07 00:43 Blocko: hitsounds: over 100ms, doesn't have 5ms delay, all used at least once: ayy nice
2015-11-07 00:46 Blocko: increase hp on black another to 8.5
2015-11-07 00:46 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 00:48 Blocko: be warned that i might be a little slow on this since i haven't modded in a long while
2015-11-07 00:48 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/545590 void - Valedict [Black Another]]
2015-11-07 00:48 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 00:57 Blocko: i think i have an idea on how to make this one a bit more pitch relevant
2015-11-07 00:58 pwhk: which section?
2015-11-07 00:59 Blocko: 00:26:739 - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926206 just right here (left one's my suggestion, right one's the original)
2015-11-07 01:00 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 01:03 Blocko: 00:30:681 (30681|2,30777|1) - instead of a trill, move the first note to 4 and the second note to 2 so the pitch is accented a bit more
2015-11-07 01:03 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 01:04 pwhk: oh wait, 1 based or 0 based?
2015-11-07 01:04 Blocko: 1 based
2015-11-07 01:04 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 01:04 Blocko: so uhh we're going for 1|2|3|4|5|6|7 right
2015-11-07 01:04 pwhk: yes
2015-11-07 01:05 Blocko: alright gotcha
2015-11-07 01:05 pwhk: (most use 1-based, but when I mod I always use 0-based lol)
2015-11-07 01:05 Blocko: as long as you point that out, people will understand
2015-11-07 01:05 pwhk: (as that is the Ctrl-CV output)
2015-11-07 01:05 pwhk: yes, agreed
2015-11-07 01:06 Blocko: 00:31:162 (31162|3,31258|2,31354|1,31450|5,31546|3,31643|4) - rearrange to 3,2,4,5,6,4 for a smoother transition from the 5-note chord
2015-11-07 01:07 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 01:07 Blocko: 00:32:700 (32700|5,32796|6) - ctrl + j for the pitch
2015-11-07 01:08 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 01:11 Blocko: 00:34:046 - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926245 another pattern suggestion since it's gonna be too long to explain, so basically it focuses more on pitch while randomizing some of the patterns so the style of it isn't too far off from the rest of the chart]
2015-11-07 01:13 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 01:14 Blocko: 00:35:296 (35296|6,35393|5,35393|3,35489|1) - rearrange to 4,25,3 for the pitch
2015-11-07 01:14 Blocko: sorry if i'm kinda nazi at pitch and flow and stuff
2015-11-07 01:15 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 01:15 pwhk:
2015-11-07 01:15 pwhk: probably swapping 00:34:431 (34431|2,34527|1) -
2015-11-07 01:16 pwhk: the main instrument sounded different which probably shouldn't use the same doubles
2015-11-07 01:16 Blocko: i see
2015-11-07 01:16 Blocko: the way i interpreted it is that the doubles are used only if the synth is loud enough
2015-11-07 01:17 pwhk: ya, sort of
2015-11-07 01:18 Blocko: 00:35:681 (35681|3,35777|2,35777|4,35873|5) - rearrange to 3,26,7 same reason
2015-11-07 01:18 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 01:24 Blocko: 00:36:995 (36995|4,36995|2,37123|3,37123|5) - ctrl + j. this is so that the whole pattern itself is easier to do
2015-11-07 01:25 pwhk: I would like to follow pitch here actually
2015-11-07 01:25 pwhk: (btw this part has been nerfed again and again lol)
2015-11-07 01:26 Blocko: gerp
2015-11-07 01:30 Blocko: 00:36:995 (36995|4,37123|5) - ctrl + j this one instead?
2015-11-07 01:30 pwhk: agreed
2015-11-07 01:30 Blocko: alright nice
2015-11-07 01:33 Blocko: 00:37:700 - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926316 and another one of those 'too long to explain' ones]
2015-11-07 01:35 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 01:39 Blocko: 00:39:431 - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926332 yet another one]
2015-11-07 01:39 Blocko: btw i testplayed these patterns just in case so they still work while have a little pitch involved
2015-11-07 01:40 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 01:41 Blocko: 00:40:970 (40970|3) - move to 3 so the right hand can have a bit of a breather?
2015-11-07 01:42 pwhk: yes
2015-11-07 01:43 pwhk: 00:40:008 - and 00:40:200 - doesn't seem to have correct pitch in your suggestion
2015-11-07 01:43 pwhk: so probably I am swapping columns for 00:39:912 (39912|4,40008|5,40200|4) -
2015-11-07 01:43 Blocko: they don't but ahh
2015-11-07 01:44 Blocko: i'm taking priority in playability when it comes to stuff like this
2015-11-07 01:44 pwhk: but then I inadventantly introduced half-brackets there, hm...
2015-11-07 01:45 pwhk: I think just keep your suggestion then
2015-11-07 01:45 Blocko: alrighty
2015-11-07 01:47 Blocko: 00:42:893 - this is probably obvious but make these guys a bit more pitch relevant?
2015-11-07 01:48 Blocko: especially the louder synth since they're the highlight of this part
2015-11-07 01:48 pwhk: I think they are on mostly pitch, hm...
2015-11-07 01:49 pwhk: do you mean to review the entire calm part?
2015-11-07 01:49 pwhk: for pr?
2015-11-07 01:49 Blocko: yeaaaah
2015-11-07 01:51 Blocko: i'll go brush my teeth brb
2015-11-07 01:51 pwhk: looking into it, but no hard guarantee ~.~
2015-11-07 01:51 Blocko: we can probably finish black another tonight
2015-11-07 01:51 pwhk: lol
2015-11-07 01:51 pwhk: I am leaving in like 3-4 hours, lets hope it won't get too long
2015-11-07 01:51 pwhk: for family birthday dinner
2015-11-07 01:53 Blocko: happy birthday
2015-11-07 01:53 Blocko: alright back
2015-11-07 01:54 pwhk: 00:42:893 - 00:55:197 - so I am reviewing into pr's this part
2015-11-07 01:55 Blocko: i think i got something
2015-11-07 01:55 Blocko: uhh
2015-11-07 01:55 Blocko: 01:05:008 (65008|4,65200|3,65393|2) - move all notes one column to the left?
2015-11-07 01:56 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 01:56 Blocko: 01:05:585 (65585|5,65585|4,65777|6,65970|5,66162|4) - rearrange to 57,6,5,6
2015-11-07 01:57 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 01:57 Blocko: 00:53:470 (53470|1,53662|3) - rearrange to 3,1?
2015-11-07 01:58 pwhk: I changed to 2,3, hm...
2015-11-07 01:58 pwhk: as it was reviewed
2015-11-07 01:59 pwhk: 7,5 here goes to guitar, and synth here seems to be increasing in pitch
2015-11-07 01:59 pwhk: oops I think I swapped the instrument names
2015-11-07 01:59 pwhk: 2,3 for soft guitar, 7,5 for prominent synth
2015-11-07 02:00 Blocko: hm
2015-11-07 02:00 Blocko: that's fine too i guess
2015-11-07 02:00 pwhk: ok~
2015-11-07 02:01 Blocko: 01:07:508 - might want to add another note here to accent the crash
2015-11-07 02:01 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 02:05 Blocko: hm
2015-11-07 02:05 Blocko: 01:21:066 (81066|0,81066|2,81066|1,81162|2,81162|0) - if you remember, what did exusagi say about these jacks?
2015-11-07 02:06 pwhk: let me check....
2015-11-07 02:06 pwhk: no he didn't IRC-mod
2015-11-07 02:07 Blocko: oh gerp
2015-11-07 02:12 Blocko: well, not many people said anything about it
2015-11-07 02:12 Blocko: and they seem alright to me
2015-11-07 02:13 Blocko: the 5-note chords might be a bit over but idk 01:25:585 (85585|0,85585|1,85585|3,85585|2,85585|6) - and 01:29:046 (89046|4,89046|0,89046|5,89046|2,89046|1) -
2015-11-07 02:14 pwhk:
2015-11-07 02:14 pwhk: agree for latter one
2015-11-07 02:16 Blocko: but for the former?
2015-11-07 02:16 pwhk: I am keeping it I think
2015-11-07 02:16 pwhk: it sounds having even more sound than latter
2015-11-07 02:18 Blocko: alright then
2015-11-07 02:18 pwhk: I think I would change both to 4-chord anyway
2015-11-07 02:19 Blocko: o oke
2015-11-07 02:19 pwhk: its a bit over for both after relistening this
2015-11-07 02:19 Blocko: over the top
2015-11-07 02:22 Blocko: 01:43:662 (103662|0,103790|0,103918|0,104046|0,104175|0,104303|0) - dunno why but i always combo break here ;;
2015-11-07 02:22 pwhk: -_-
2015-11-07 02:23 Blocko: does that face imply i suk at jacks
2015-11-07 02:23 pwhk: lol
2015-11-07 02:24 pwhk: I am way behind you in skill
2015-11-07 02:25 Blocko: a
2015-11-07 02:32 Blocko: everytime i try this i can't seem to fc it
2015-11-07 02:32 Blocko: argargarg
2015-11-07 02:32 Blocko: i can't be the reason why you'd change that though
2015-11-07 02:32 pwhk: lol
2015-11-07 02:33 pwhk: well, just skip over to 01:55:200 - if you want
2015-11-07 02:33 pwhk: in fact I think this map is SR-underrated lmao
2015-11-07 02:33 Blocko: wat
2015-11-07 02:33 Blocko: i think it's a bit overrated lol
2015-11-07 02:34 pwhk: that's what happen when a not-so-fast song getting an X icon lolol
2015-11-07 02:34 Blocko: it's mostly because of that dense section at the end lololol
2015-11-07 02:34 Blocko: ah well
2015-11-07 02:34 Blocko: that aside
2015-11-07 02:35 Blocko: 01:47:893 - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926504 another one of those suggestions (left: suggestion, right: original)
2015-11-07 02:36 pwhk: column 7 is for kicks, hm...
2015-11-07 02:36 Blocko: o
2015-11-07 02:36 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926513 this one?]
2015-11-07 02:37 pwhk: agreed
2015-11-07 02:39 Blocko: 01:50:585 - this one, aaaa
2015-11-07 02:40 pwhk: this gimmick is to be emphasized
2015-11-07 02:40 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926525 make it a mirrored version of] 00:36:739 - ?
2015-11-07 02:40 pwhk: I guess so
2015-11-07 02:42 Blocko: 01:52:123 (112123|0,112220|0,112316|0) - breh
2015-11-07 02:42 pwhk: the kicks are indeed like that aaaaa
2015-11-07 02:45 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926549 idk i'd change it to something like this to make it less combo-breaker-infuriating]
2015-11-07 02:45 Blocko: ag
2015-11-07 02:46 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 02:53 Blocko: 01:53:662 - the left hand is kill
2015-11-07 02:53 pwhk: ya, that is extremely dense stuff
2015-11-07 02:54 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926576 this one changes the left hand's phase for a little bit (part 1)]
2015-11-07 02:54 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3926578 this one also makes it easier for the left hand to execute (part 2)]
2015-11-07 02:54 Blocko: so uhh take these with a grain of salt since this makes the overall ending easier to do
2015-11-07 02:54 pwhk: haha
2015-11-07 02:56 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 02:59 Blocko: and update i guess
2015-11-07 03:00 pwhk: updated
2015-11-07 03:02 Blocko: alright, a few more things before i head to bed
2015-11-07 03:02 Blocko: 01:53:758 (113758|6,113854|4) - ctrl + j?
2015-11-07 03:02 pwhk: sure
2015-11-07 03:03 Blocko: 01:55:970 (115970|0,116098|0,116226|0,116354|0,116482|0,116611|0) - you could make this into a polyrhythmic section instead but your call
2015-11-07 03:03 pwhk: I think I would keeping it and be consistent about the kicks
2015-11-07 03:04 Blocko: alright then
2015-11-07 03:04 Blocko: 01:56:354 (116354|2) - move to 2?
2015-11-07 03:04 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 03:06 Blocko: then update again since i'm done for the day
2015-11-07 03:06 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 03:06 Blocko: when we meet again, we'll cover the other diffs and hitsounds
2015-11-07 03:06 pwhk: ok
2015-11-07 03:06 pwhk: post this conversation on the topic?
2015-11-07 03:07 Blocko: alright