pkhg wrote:

hi tacoland ppl

[General]
Broseph's has no viddd, no se te olvide el offset xd Creo que se borró con la ultima actualización :v

[Beginner]

00:03:400 (1,2) - a mi no me gusta usar sliders con mas de 1 repeat, pero el slider es 3/2 podria estar bien idk Yo pienso que si esta bien.
00:24:384 (1,2) - estas ya podrian tener problemas, son 1/1 puede ser dificil ver las repeats siguientes, alguien quiere pensar en los newbies?
y bueno mas adelante sigues usandolos y es el unico problema que le veo al map xd Mmm bueno mis amigos newbies no tuvieron problemas leyendo esta parte. No se. Lo consideraré si noto que si es un problema.
01:03:728 (3) - nc Ok

[Normal]

00:48:646 (2,3) - mejorale el flow :3 Cambié 2 por otra forma.
01:18:155 (4) - no se si sea buena idea usar formas tan raras en normales, ponle nc ademas xd RIP mi querido slider ;_; ok cambiado

despues modeo las otras diffs

Leorda wrote:

Hola....

[General]
* Remove "BMS" in tags. It's already mention in Source Removed

[Another]
01:01:269 (2,3,4) - Move further from (1) because player would sometimes misclick this cuz they thought this was in white tick instead red Spaced slightly. Still wanted it to be like an anti jump so it's not by too much.

That's all I got... buenos dias~

reminixe wrote:

Broseph's Advance
00:04:384 (3,4) - why not start 4 on red tick or use circle there to follow the melody better? Not really sure what you mean with this.
00:06:023 (1,2) - slight overlap and weird flow. could be visually more appealing Whoops, forgot to ctrl + G the slider and move the circle, changed.
00:11:269 (1) - pretty big jump, maybe nerf Nerf'd
00:18:482 (4) - make this two kicksliders, very unintuitive to hold it for that long especially with the melody continuing behind it Adjusted.
00:26:679 (5,1) - poor flow I hate to be "that guy," but could you provide more information than a timestamp and "poor flow"? Moved a little bit I guess...
00:27:991 (3,1) - slider overlap could be avoided by editing this slightly Previous adjustment made overlap more obvious.
00:33:400 (2) - why not just a small jump here? plays weird to me, not very important though, i guess the jump is because of the large increase in volume and "energy" of the song at that point
00:34:876 (1) - blanket this better Would not significantly change the map. Unchanged
00:50:941 (3,5) - why not fully blanket this? ^
01:03:073 (7) - i would rotate this -60 degrees Glad to hear it, but WHY? I need more explanation than just "move this, do that"
01:04:876 (2) - consider spacing more so it doesnt appear to start on the downbeat Moved
01:31:597 (1,3) - overlap could be avoided Why yes, it could! Adjusted.
01:34:548 (3) - NC to avoid reading as a single pattern / jump Spacing is large enough.
i would recommend ending kiai at 1:50:612 Changed

Leorda wrote:

[Broseph's Advanced]
* This diff hasn't insert a video yet MOOOOOOMMMM (Side) fix pls.

00:18:400 (3) - Remove this note? It doesn't fit to song IMO Removed & Adjusted
00:18:482 (4) - How about separate the slider into 2 slider? Rather than one slider with many repeating slider Fixed from previous mod.
00:32:581 (1) - Why new combo? Because speedy copy and paste, Changed.
00:41:433 (5) - New combo? You probably forgot Yep, nice catch!
01:01:433 (2) - Why clap at the end slider?
01:02:089 (4) - Add clap?
01:02:745 (6) - Add clap at head slider

Completely redid hitsounds, thanks!

osu file format v14

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Countdown: 0
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Jenny wrote:

VOD should be up in an hour or two.

BOUYAAA wrote:

as promised xd

I started modding this yesterday (easy and normal), so if there is some stuff in this mod you already changed that's why

A bit of general stuff : check AImod
useful stuff that explains strong/weak beats for all of you guys : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30GBgmww1q4

ez
Alot of the sliderends in the beginning are covering really strong beats, it'd make more sense to make these beats clickable since clicking on strong beats is really intuitive. Slider end on the other hand don't do much, the only thing they do is that they lock down your movement so no emphasis is given to those beats. I'll point some out : 00:08:318 (1) - 00:10:941 (1) - 00:09:630 (2) - 00:18:810 (1) - I see your point. The issue is that because this is kind of a more quiet section with only the little piano whatever instrument playing it's hard to hear the 1/1 beat for newer players. So to remove some of that unnecessary difficulty I'd rather give them sliders to play for leniency. Otherwise they'd be single tapping 1/1 into sliders on a section with no drums playing and only a somewhat quiet piano for guidance. Besides some of those would make it a LOT of single tapping for this easy difficulty.

00:03:400 (1) - ppl say these sliders that repeat more than once are hard for total newbies. Idk if they are that retarded but it might be confusing. I doubt they are. Even if they somehow were bad enough to miss the extra repeats it's like the literal first 2 notes of the map and they will surely get it 2nd try.
00:05:368 - i'd say add a 1/1 slider here just so it doesn't feel too empty, this would allow you to do the same here 00:07:991 - so that you can place a note or start a slider here so 00:08:646 - can be pressed since it's a really strong beat and also the beginning of a new phrase. I'd rather focus solely on the piano and not the light beat here especially since this is what the players will hear and would make sense to click to. As for the note on the 1/1 slider end, I thought about it at first but with 2 notes there's a huge gap before the following slider and it looks pretty awkward. I'll play around with the note and see if I find anything that fits better but for now this stays as is.
00:09:630 (2) - this doesn't follow the rythm very well since the repeating slider ends on nothing and the strong beat is ignored by the repeat. I think a rythm like this would fit better http://puu.sh/kdJJ8/b7aafda022.jpg I'm not sure how easy this will be to read but since it will follow the piano better I'll try this out.

00:10:941 (1) - same suggestion than 00:09:630 (2) - except with a 1/1 slider instead of a 3/2 one. I'd rather leave this one as is.
00:16:515 (1,2) - new players might ignore the repeat and go straight for the note after. I'd avoid confusing patterns like that. also flow here is kiiiinda meh for an easy diff. I don't think it's hard to read but I think I'd rather do something nicer looking and mirror 1 instead.
00:24:384 (1,2) - repeating sliders again, these are a bit more hardcore than the previous ones since they are repeating on 1/1 same goes for the next ones if you decide to change them. I doubt you will though since you used so much of them lol yup
00:33:564 (2,1) - 2 points away from 1 which makes up for poor flow.
00:51:925 (3,2) - these overlap slightly which is ew. this here might also be a bit confusing since new players might not know which one to chose between these two 00:53:237 (1,2) - Minor and not visible in gameplay. Also flows into itself so shouldn't be confusing.
00:55:859 (1,2) - flow here is not great, you can try to ctrl+h 1 so that flow goes "inwards" of the slider Also minor but this looks better so I don't mind it.
01:18:155 (3,2) - this would have the same problem as 00:51:925 (3,2) - might be confusing Doesn't look confusing
01:35:531 (3,4) - here too, 3 points to the end of 4, the most intuitive thing to do here would be to click this end instead Changed 4 and did other stuffs.
01:42:416 (3,4,1) - spacing seems to be a bit inconsistent sometimes, this has no effect on gameplay, it's just for visual consistency. here too 01:39:466 (1,2,1) - Minor

harder than ez
Note density seems a bit low to me, it could use a bit more 1/2 stuff, I'll give some suggestions as I go through the diff

00:08:318 (1) - would be better if the end was clickable for the same reason as easy diff 1/2 slider + single note would do here imo. Didn't change on easy but I dont mind it here.
00:09:958 (3) - the repeat doesn't fit the music here I think it does.
00:10:941 (1) - This ends on a strong beat again which makes little sense
what about adding notes here 00:22:253 - and here 00:22:909 - nope too hard.
00:24:384 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I wouldn't recommend spamming notes like that, it's probably a bit hard idk Changed both 3-4s to sliders.
00:35:532 (2,3) - symmetry copy paste would look better in cases like this for visual consistency http://puu.sh/kdM1l/82f54f2516.jpg Similar change
00:40:122 (1,3) - these slightly overlap which doesn't look good, either go for a bit more or don't go for an overlap at all (which would be better since this is normal) Minor and unnoticeable in gameplay.
00:41:433 (3,4) - looking at this I should probably add that straight sliders look way better when their angle is really close (I'd say 10°-20°max) from the x or y axis. Don't ask why, that's how mapping visuals evolved to what it is now. You do these alot , there are some in easy too and there probably will be in the other diffs. Someone rly cool also sent me this link once : p/2908871. popner's post explains how to achieve visual consistency on a map. You probably want to take a look at that too. I think this looks fine. It was 00:40:777 (2) - which needed to be moved a little to the right.
00:48:646 (2,3) - awkward flow here, it'd be better if 2 pointed towards 3. Nah it's just because 3 should have been arched down not up. Changed that.
00:55:204 (3,1) - same here This one looks fine.
01:00:777 (3) - the rythm here is syncopated, that means the strong sound is on a weak beat, this sound should be clickable like you did here 00:59:630 (2) -. An alternative for this part 00:59:630 (2,3) - would be http://puu.sh/kdMY1/fcf42f3d6b.jpg which emphasises things correctly imo Sure
01:03:237 (4) - same here, you could do 1/2 slider + whatever Did something else sort of
01:42:416 (3,1) - meh flow for the exact same reasons as before Feels fine.
01:53:235 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - nothing wrong with that but this is the main reason why I pointed out the lack of note density in the beginning. This calm part is way more dense than most of the stuff in the rest of your diff so it's weird. Added a bit more density. Hopefully.

Another
spread looks problematic in the beginning since advanced and hyper are like 3 times as dense than what another is This should be resolved with more good mods. The GDs haven't had as many mods as my diffs :v
00:09:958 (2) - still doesn't follow the music Probably fixed with previous mod
00:12:089 (2,3,4,5) - copypasta : this spacing is unintuitive. the jump from 3 to 4 in on a weak beat (red tick) and the jump from 4 to 5 is on a very strong beat (first white tick). It would make way more sense to have a smaller jump going from 3 to 4 and a bigger jump going from 4 to 5. this is kind of important because it ensures your emphasis is done right. There are a few places where this happens, I'll point out the ones I see but I'll probably miss some so please recheck for them. Basically everything that has a big jump to a red tick and a little jump to a white tick is most likely problematic Also fixed with previous mod.
00:13:892 (1,2) - this overlap could look better but it's probably fine lol previous mod put in work :v
00:15:040 - fill these gaaaaaps aaaaaaaaaah this is "another" ,pls ,no awkward pauses I like this pause since I'm still emphasizing the piano thing moreso than the drums but I suppose changing this to a 1/2 slider plays exactly the same.
00:18:155 - I mean srsly there is even a snare on this one >_>
00:19:138 (1) - could use a bit more spacing for emphasis. there is a finish here Nah and yes there is :v
00:27:499 (1,2,3,4) - awkward pauses again, i'd suggest 1/2 sliders if you really want to keep following the bell sounds Stop making me be more creative :v jkjk this change looks nice though
00:34:056 (1,2) - this doesn't really work. first one kind of does but second one is starting on a blue tick which is meh, especially because the song is full 1/4. so yeah map a stream No stream but changed to doubles in previous mod.
00:39:794 (7,8,1) - spacing error, also copypasta : these straight jumps are sometwhat problematic because they rely alot on speed and not really on aim. this makes them harder to follow than it should. This changed in the previous mod. Looks really cool now :3
00:44:056 (1,2,3,4) - spacing error again Seriously Jenny beat you to it lol
00:45:696 (2) - single 1/4 sliders like that are awkward sice they are played like a single note this is like you'd have a single circle sitting here. You are basically undermapping in this part. Also 00:45:941 (1) - this stream is starting on a blue tick which isn't recommended either. adding a 1/4 repeating slider here 00:45:368 - and 00:45:696 - here would make more sense. my shitty suggestion to remove gaps and awkwardness without making this hard would be 00:45:368 - two repeating sliders for a beat and starting a stream for two beats here 00:46:023 - and then removing the weirs 1/4 slider here again 00:46:679 (1) - for a repeating slider And this
00:48:318 (2,3) - weird pause again, this is not really supported by the music same goes for : 00:49:302 (1) - 00:50:941 (2,3) - 00:50:941 (2,3) - etc. if you're affraid about difficulty raising too fast you can just use repeaters and 1/4 to fill those gaps but these 1/2 pauses are probably not the way to go Actually it is. It's mapped to the synthy thing so those pauses are when the synthy thing pauses. Still the pattern changed from the previous mod. a LOT changed lol
00:56:515 (3,4,5) - spacing Intentional
00:57:827 (1) - unstack a bit so it's a bit more visible, the previous slider kinda hides it atm Well it's a 3/4 slider so it should be covered slightly and the slight overlap is a good indication that it's a 3/4 slider anyway.
00:58:974 - add noooote Don't kill mapper spirit ;_; jk added
01:00:941 (1,2) - missing strong beat so no pauses would be better. making this a 1/1 slideer would be good I prefer it this way.
01:02:253 (1,2,3,4,5) - same remark as the last 1/1 star jump I pointed out before Yup intentional.
01:20:777 (3,4,5) - straight line jumps as pointed out before Changed pattern. Didn't like the 1/4 sliders here.
01:24:712 - the instrument you were following before is still here so please be consistent and keep following it I can follow it for one more 2/1 before I focus on the piano.
not really a problem but the kiai part is arguably the most intense part of the song and it's very slow so I'm kinda sad. why not raise the SV a bit? I could use 1.2 but at the moment I think it's fine. I'd have to remap so much just for slightly faster sliders x_x
01:29:630 (1,2,3) - this is also a spread issue probably, your note density is very low here compared to other diffs. I higly suggest you add notes on 1/2 stuff here Changed 2 and 3 to 1/2 sliders but the long slider stays.
01:31:925 (2,3,1) - flow changes direction here for the sake of blankets. it's probably not that bad since it's on a really strong beat but the angles here a pretty sharp Maybe but then again it's a jump to a jump back which is what I end up doing for this entire section before the stream.
01:35:203 (3,4,1) - spacing error. this one is really obvious. I wanted the bigger jump >_< fine I'll change it....
01:36:515 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - series of jumps with very obtuous angles. see my comment about straight jumps It's fine in this occasion because it's more of an angle so there is snapping involved.



Ok that's it,I pointed out a lot of stuff but keep in mind I do not want to push anything on you guys, you decide what you want to change or not.
This ended up being pretty long lel .I am always joinable ingame if you have any questions regarding what I just wrote. oh and pls give explanation on why you deny stuff ty
I really hope you'll improve on this. Gl with the set!

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Video,-705,"vid.avi"
//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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177,144,93400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,78,93564,6,0,P|97:46|100:13,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
171,149,93892,2,0,P|175:182|171:215,2,65.9999979858399,0|0|0,1:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
367,113,94548,2,0,P|379:143|399:169,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,104,94875,1,0,1:0:0:0:
324,204,95039,2,0,P|304:230|291:260,2,65.9999979858399,0|0|0,0:0|1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,328,95531,6,0,P|295:341|231:328,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
142,283,96023,1,0,0:0:0:0:
97,194,96187,2,0,L|108:129,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
215,222,96515,2,0,P|279:235|343:222,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
433,177,97007,1,0,0:0:0:0:
478,88,97171,2,0,L|466:23,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,124,97498,6,0,L|364:189,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
434,259,97826,2,0,P|369:246|305:260,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
305,259,98318,1,0,0:0:0:0:
147,183,98482,2,0,P|211:196|276:183,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
280,192,98974,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,192,99138,2,0,P|277:160|280:127,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,32,99466,6,0,P|355:45|291:31,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
291,31,99957,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,124,100121,2,0,P|387:156|384:189,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
289,284,100449,2,0,P|285:251|288:218,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
218,48,100777,2,0,P|222:97|218:147,1,98.9999969787599,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
182,182,101105,2,0,L|117:193,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
23,287,101433,6,0,L|152:264,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
223,193,101925,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,280,102089,1,0,1:0:0:0:
239,209,102252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,296,102416,2,0,P|248:282|312:295,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
382,365,102908,1,0,0:0:0:0:
382,365,103072,2,0,P|378:332|382:299,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
471,190,103400,6,0,P|475:223|472:256,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
378,162,103728,2,0,P|370:194|355:223,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,108,104056,2,0,P|274:135|250:158,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
121,158,104384,2,0,P|185:144|250:158,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
249,158,104875,1,0,0:0:0:0:
186,234,105039,2,0,P|182:266|185:299,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
326,299,105367,6,0,P|330:266|326:234,1,65.9999979858399,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,233,105694,1,2,0:3:0:0:
248,91,105858,2,0,P|244:124|249:157,1,65.9999979858399,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
249,158,106185,1,2,0:3:0:0:
381,161,106350,6,0,P|316:147|252:161,1,131.99999597168,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
53,90,106842,2,0,P|117:103|182:89,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,160,107334,2,0,L|122:224,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
233,288,107662,2,0,L|222:224,1,65.9999979858399
105,289,107989,6,0,P|169:302|233:288,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
233,288,108481,1,0,0:0:0:0:
431,358,108645,2,0,P|367:344|303:358,1,131.99999597168,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
303,358,109137,1,0,0:0:0:0:
233,288,109301,6,0,L|168:299,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
260,204,109629,2,0,L|195:192,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
312,132,109957,2,0,L|254:99,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
388,88,110285,2,0,L|345:37,1,65.9999979858399,0|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
256,192,110612,12,0,113235,0:0:0:0:
160,272,115858,6,0,L|105:281,2,55,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
238,193,116350,2,0,L|292:202,2,55,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
159,114,116842,2,0,P|154:86|158:59,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,112,117170,6,0,P|212:125|159:114,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
159,114,117662,1,2,0:0:0:0:
238,193,117826,2,0,P|242:220|238:247,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,134,118153,2,0,P|291:106|295:79,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
354,192,118481,6,0,L|373:300,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
431,359,118973,1,2,0:0:0:0:
431,359,119137,2,0,P|378:346|324:357,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
145,317,119629,1,2,0:0:0:0:
145,317,119793,6,0,P|199:328|252:316,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
310,257,120285,2,0,P|363:245|416:258,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
474,199,120776,2,0,P|478:171|474:144,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,108,121104,5,4,0:0:0:0:

Doormat wrote:

Hello, from my modding queue. Sorry for the wait!

Whoa that's a pretty cool video oAo

Difficulties looked at: Beginner, Normal, Broseph's Advanced, Atsuro's Hyper, Another, Shiirn's Extra

• - bolded difficulties are the ones that I modded

Beginner

01:01:105 (1) - I think this should be moved to 01:00:941. Don't adjust the slider length I would but then it would be hard to read for this difficulty.
01:01:925 - add a note here if you wish I'll consider it but it would mean adding a note in all the empty white ticks for this section which is a bit too much imo. No change for now but I'll probably change if someone else suggests
01:02:416 (3) - I think this should be moved to 01:02:253 Same as the first suggestion
01:03:237 - add a note? Same as 2nd suggestion
01:03:727 (1) - I think this needs to be moved to 01:03:565; make it repeat twice Not sure what you mean by this but this currently follows the synthy thing that plays 3 times.
01:05:039 (2) - Similar to the above, I think this needs to be moved to 01:04:875; make it repeat twice as well Also those pointls to where you're suggesting don't even link to a tick o_o
01:27:335 (1) - I think that you should move this spinner so that it starts at 01:25:859 and ends at 01:27:171 I see where you're going with this. I'll consider it but I don't really like where it starts. I'll play around with it and change it if I find something better for this.
01:34:548 (2) - Make this slider a little more curvy so that it's blanketed with 01:35:531 (3) it would mess up the shape but I don't mind so I'll change it

SPOILER

02:01:186 - add a spinner from here to 02:03:563 so that it's consistent with the other difficulties, maybe? I wondered if this would be too much for an easy but I'll add it for now. Will remove it if suggested to in future mods though.

Normal

00:09:958 (4) - I don't think a 3/4 repeat slider is the best choice here, since there's no beat on 00:10:204. Use a 3/2 slider instead Am I the only one that hears a sound at 00:10:204 - ? Changed though

SPOILER

00:28:810 (4) - I think you should have a 1/2 slider here instead of a circle; you missed a beat on 00:28:974. Alternatively, you could put a circle at 00:28:974 Yeh I can change that.
00:49:958 (1) - I don't think the new combo here is necessary Forgot to fix NCs. Now all consistently at 8/1
01:05:368 (1) - I think this should be moved to 01:05:205 Seems fine to me here.
02:01:268 (1) - I think you should have this spinner start at 02:01:186 so that it's consistent with the other difficulties Not a fan of starting spinners on a blue tick for easy/normal even after notes cuz I care about the other game modes :v

Another

00:05:696 (6) - Maybe add another circle here? B-but there is already a circle there
00:05:859 (1) - Have the new combo start on the downbeat (big white tick, aka (2)) instead changed
00:15:777 - Add in a note here and 00:15:941 to make a burst, perhaps? Don't mind this.
00:18:400 - Add a circle here for a burst? nah thats what the triples after it is for (also to follow the drums )
00:18:564 (4) - The clap here sounds really weird; consider taking it off It follows the drums. If anything I just need better custom hitsounds.
00:23:728 (9) - Maybe you can make this into a 1/1 slider? It feels like you missed a beat at 00:24:056 Didn't want to map to the vocals there and I like my hold here for now.
01:27:335 (1) - Extend it so that it starts at 01:27:253 changed

Mortem wrote:

hi.

Beginner
• I don't understand, why are you putting sliders with multiple reverse arrows in the easiest diff. People may find this really confusing. Try to map these parts like you did here: 01:31:597 (4,5) - . It will perfectly fit there and it would be more enjoyable. Well that section is actually in 3/4 but yeah I've gotten a few suggestions to change some of them so I'll change some to two 1/1 sliders or slider/reverse and a note. I'll keep some for a bit of a challenge and because they go with the song imo.
• 01:27:335 (1) - Put this spinner at: 01:22:417 - and end it 01:27:335 - . It's because since this is a beginner difficulty, rookies will have problems to spin in a such of short period of time. If you are going to do it, leave other notes like 01:29:302 (1) - , etc. like they are. Yeah I've also gotten this suggestion before. I didn't want to do it at first because it's gonna be a long spinner but I'll change this for now and see how it plays.
• 01:50:612 (1) - Extend this spinner to 01:53:235 - . Reason same as above. Yeah this one makes sense. Too bad it makes the pattern look weird because I'd have to delete the slider.

Normal:
• 00:09:630 (3) - Please, unstack this circle from slider and put it like you did here: 00:08:646 (2) - . From what I've seen people who play normals don't really struggle with stacks when on slider heads. Also if I stacked it like I did on 2 it would be too short because that's a 1/2 space and this is a 1/1 stack.
• 00:17:499 (2,3,4) - This pattern looks totally weird. And it kinda breaks the flow in some ways. What about Ctrl+H 00:17:499 (2) - . and then rearrange 00:18:482 (3,4) - for better flow. Haven't seen testplays messing up here. It also destroys my beautiful half circle ;_;
• 00:33:400 (3,4) - Same as the first suggestion. (Unstack) Yeah I could see this one because its 1/2.
• 00:36:843 (4,3) - What about stacking these two together? Fixed that after the previous unstack.
• 00:55:204 (7) - Rotate this 90* clockwise and remove one reverse arrow for better flow. Sure this is nicer :v
• 00:57:007 (2) - Improve the design of this slider by moving the red anchor point to the middle. Cleaned up slightly.
• 01:04:548 (2,3) - Replace them with a slider. Players may have problems to catch these 1/2 notes. True. Changed.
• 01:05:859 (5,6) - ^ Not this one though because I'll use the slider change on the previous indication of the rhythm change.
• 01:27:335 (1) - Put the spinner at 01:26:023 - Same reason as in Beginner's diff. I could but there is more going on here that I wanted to emphasize and I haven't seen anyone complain about this spinner from testplays.
• 01:29:302 (1,2) - Unstack. Stack for this is fine.

Other diffs seems fine to me.
Hope that helps somehow.

Kuki wrote:

[Beginner]
01:44:384 (2,1) - Try a blanket here, I think it would look much nicer (it looks a little off at the moment imo). Wasn't a blanket but I don't mind this. Changed.

[Normal]
01:59:793 (5) - Perhaps a nc here. Nah because for this diff I'm adding NCs every 8/1 (every 2 big white ticks)

[Another]
Looks fine to me Woo!!

Kalibe wrote:

Hey Side :v M4M

[General]

Maybe stack leniency to 6 or 7?
Don't really see it affecting gameplay anywhere. I'll consider if I notice something or if more mods suggest this.

[Beginner]

umm HP 3 is too high for 1.5 stars, decrease to 2 also do it for OD to 2 and AR to 3 k

00:45:368 (1) - http://puu.sh/kJhAW/8b08cf6981.jpg ? I prefer the effect of the sliders going in a little.
01:43:400 (5) - awwr it would be cool if there was a NC, but 2 objects and next NC isn't cool, so your choice NC for the easier diffs is every 2 downbeats (8/1) so this is consistent the way it is atm.
01:54:547 (1) - remove one of red squares on slider's structure like this http://puu.sh/kJhYh/12c88c6888.jpg or something? Removed a red square but kept it as a white square. I like this slider :v
01:55:858 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i don't want to say, but it maybe a little hard for newbies Gotta teach them to git gud >:V but I think single tap of 3 is not too challenging.
01:57:170 (5) - ^ and NC it Same comment above regarding NCs for the easier diffs.
02:03:563 - maybe end spinner here? - 02:04:711 - Nah I prefer the spinner ending on the instrument not the noise ending.

[Normal]

OD 4 and CS 3,5 will be good Changed OD. Not CS cuz it's fine this way.

00:54:548 (5,6,7) - maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/kJis5/0e139a34a3.jpg Looks nice but I also like how mine looks atm. I'll think about it more and maybe change it later.
01:04:548 (2) - http://puu.sh/kJizf/81a004ef05.jpg ? Nah that would mess up the flow to the next note imo.
01:20:777 (4,5) - umm.. maybe switch hitsounds on (4) end should be whistle then remove it on head and on (5) add clap Maybe I didn't do it right but it doesn't sound nice that way.
01:37:170 (6,7,7,8) - maybe replace it with 1/2 sliders? I think this is harder >:]
02:03:563 - maybe end spinner here? - 02:04:711 - Nah I prefer the spinner ending on the instrument not the noise ending.

[Another]

uncheck : Widescreen Support Woops

00:45:450 (2) - i think it's overmapped I think it's undermapped
00:55:204 to 00:55:368 - add green section with 35 or 40 % volume to emphasized music :^) Didn't sound much better to me. Not sure.
01:00:941 (1) - ohh... move that circle away, it's really not cool overlap. Do it like this or similar http://puu.sh/kJjLY/fd150cd2ca.jpg It's worse like that because then it reads like a 1/4 or 1/2 jump which is more confusing. I'd rather have the anti jump here.
01:05:368 (1,2,3,4) - make this jumps moar style like that http://puu.sh/kJjT5/e1d930d950.jpg Looks nice but then it ruins my triangle
01:06:351 to 01:16:187 - this is Insane/Extra so you should map this, really. I could but it would just be a slow long slider section. I'd rather just have a break here. Maybe I'll map it if I can find a way to not make it so boring.
01:21:597 (5) - this 1/8 don't match with music remove it and put circles or 1/4 It does though. That little kick thing playing in the BG is 1/8 clearly.
01:45:039 (9) - NC i think Yeah forgot to NC this stream.
01:50:612 (1) - why NC?
02:03:563 - maybe end spinner here? - 02:04:711 - Nah I prefer the spinner ending on the instrument not the noise ending.

And, that's it. GL with that

Natsu wrote:

sorry for late was busy irl

Hi


General:

1. Remove osb file you are not using it Woops

Shiirn's Extra:

• From Shiirn:
  
  OD 8.9 was chosen because that's where it randomly landed. For reals. Side can change it if he likes. (Will change to 8.5 since I lowered mine)
  
  00:02:089 (1) - Changed the slider volumes
  00:10:941 (2,3,4,5) - If you say so.
  00:24:056 (1) - Removed new combo
  00:34:548 (1) - New combo left. This is a very singular beat in the song; it is both independent of the actual flow of the music and as such has an independent combo.
  00:44:220 (2,3,4) - Moves fine. It's a back and forth combo.
  00:45:286 (7,1) - Moved 1 underneath 7.
  00:46:679 (1,2,3) - Made 2,3 more visible
  00:50:450 (4,5,1) - k
  00:52:581 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If more people have problems with this specific combo I will change it; as it is I'll leave it as-is.
  00:57:335 (2,3,4) - Looks plenty cool to me.
  01:00:286 (2,3,4) - k
  01:17:171 (2,3) - Yes its on purpose but if it looks bad i'll fix?
  01:18:564 (4,5) - I have never heard anyone that was decent at this game have trouble with this blue-tick slider considering that it's a breakbeat portion.
  01:28:318 - unnecessary mod
  01:29:302 (1) - I'll think about this slider later.
  01:33:892 (2,3,4) - editted
  
  
  http://puu.sh/kMrcN/a5b7c3fc34.osu

Another:

1. random circle size and random od, as I say before OD is affected by 0,5 intervals, doing changes of 0,1 are not noticeable for humans, so keep it in 8 or 8,5. about circle size 4,2 is a random value tbh just use 4. Agree with the OD so changed to 8. Was mostly experimenting there. As for CS I actually really like it because it's somewhat smaller but doesn't affect snapping as if it was 4 however it does allow me to play around with different patterns because of slightly more space. I'll keep the CS. Also on another note I raised HP to 7 to match spread.
2. 00:18:318 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same comment as extra diff, I kinda have a hard time understand how your comboing work, mean explaining ? Oh I didn't like the combo over 10 but then again I don't like shortening the other one more so I'll remove this NC.
3. 00:33:564 (1) - 1/2 slider is better speed up in music isn't really noticeable True. I felt the 1/8 slider complimented the sound a bit better but maybe doesn't match the music. I'll change for now but I might change it back depending. I didn't think it affected playability.
4. 00:34:056 (1,2,3,4) - should be a full stream ignoring the wait tick where the music is stronger than in the blue ones doesn't make much sense to be honest I mean I could because there is a sound there but it's really weak especially compared to 2 and 3 so I decided to ignore it and emphasize the 1-2 1-2 pattern which sounds stronger and plays pretty cool imo :3
5. 00:45:859 do not ignore this playing your actually 00:45:777 (5,1) - its really uncomfortable After playing around with mapping a bit more I found something really fun to do in this section. You might like it now
6. 00:46:761 (5,1) - 00:48:400 (5,1) - 00:53:646 (3,1) - etc tbh I can't agree with this rhythms doens't fit the song IMO ^
7. 00:57:991 (2,3) - ctrl g since your actual way play really weird making a movement back to the slider (which is a bit hidden ) Yeah I can see this. Not sure I might change this pattern a different way later but I'll change it this way for now.
8. 01:00:941 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1) - rhythm too empty try to add more objects according to the song rhythm Yep I did something
9. 01:20:777 (3,4,5) - spacing its really similar, maybe add more spacing to 5 Added more spacing.

Normal:

1. 00:13:073 (5) - I don't recomend to use 1/4 sliders at normal diff lvls, they repear are too fast and normal diff players will break their combo in most of their trys. Well I think it's fine for this because it's in the beginning and I also want newbies to get a small taste of 1/2 slider repeats for when they transition to hards.
2. 00:52:581 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - this part is too much dense compared to others, consider to add more 1/1 sliders maybe? Changed 1 and 2 to a 3/4 slider
3. 01:16:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - same parts going too dense, normal diffs need more 1/1 breaks True. Fixed.

Beginner:

1. intro has many polarity issues rest its fine Reworked intro somewhat.

Se me olvido que eras de Mexico lol y lo hice en ingles hahaha, de todos modos Buena suerte con esto. LOL ntp tambien entiendo inglés :v

Tarrasky wrote:

NM Request from:

I will talk only what really matters, nothing nazi, only what is truly relevant and unranked tips

[list][General]
[*]89630 - This Timing Point seems more 6/4 than 3/4 for me Well it's similar but it's actually 3/4 because there's a lot of movement on the 3 and not just on the 6 idk how to explain that.

[Easy]
[*]00:09:958 (3) - I recommend you remove the whistle song in slider route, I see no reason to have sound, once dont have in 00:12:581 (6) - which is more intense Woops yeah I meant to hitsound the parts not the whole slider

[Broseph's Advanced] (On behalf of Broseph's absence)
[*]00:34:548 (1) - I do not see a clear reason for this slider finish in 00:34:794 -, once the two possible songs for you follow finish in 00:34:712 - The 3/4 slider there I think is pretty cool. If anything the whistle in the tail made it sound bad so I removed it.
[*]01:15:532 - any other mapper moved the breaktime from here and i think this breaktime move is unnecessary I dont know if broseph had a reason for this so I'll leave it as is until he returns :v
[*]This distance 01:33:892 (2,3) - is pretty next to this 01:34:875 (4,5) -, in one have 1/1 timing distance (for me is nice) but in the other this distance is only 1/2, this can confuse the players with starts to differentiate jumps, obviously this is rankeable, but i dont recommend this kind of jumps next to a follow 1/1 Yeah another thing that idk if he would change or something so I'll just leave this as is and see if he would change it.
[*]01:53:563 - add a breaktime or map this, is 9 times without object, even the drain is low, it is not recommended So I hope broseph doesnt kill me for this but I kinda wanted to do what he did at 01:55:858 (1) - and start it early. I kinda copied the same pattern so hopefully it still feels like what broseph would have done

[Another]
[*]I recommend you add a New Combo in 01:03:564 (9) -, this combo is going too far (15 lol)

Great map and nice video ;D
Hope I help Thanks! Helpful!

Fort wrote:

hello

SPOILER

13:14 Side: 1 2 3 4 5 6 quick :v
13:15 Fort: them
13:15 Fort: im trying to mod this map
13:16 Side: 00:36:750 (1) - xD it's so cool
13:16 Fort: 00:57:991 (2,1) - imperfect stacking
13:17 Fort: 00:45:777 (5,1) - i think this should be 1/2 slider
13:17 Fort: 00:46:023 (2) - and make circle stream here
13:18 Fort: because this 00:46:351 (3) - and 00:46:023 (2) - has different musical pattern but on 00:46:023 (2) - has really strong point to put circle stream
13:18 Fort: just like 00:47:335 (1,2,3,4) -
13:19 Side: I thought about redoing this part to emphasize a few things
13:19 Fort: 01:00:614 (5,6,7) - this flow a bit sudden
13:19 Fort: maybe put 01:00:941 (7) - to 64|128 or somewhere else
13:19 Fort: 01:02:253 (5) - new combo to prevent combo too long
13:20 Fort: 01:03:564 (9) - maybe nc this too
13:21 Fort: 02:00:285 (4,1) - why you didnt put jump on this notes?
13:21 Side: x_x
13:22 Fort: maybe move 02:00:448 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - to 208|280 can help a bit
13:22 Side: I was about to sleep but I guess I can finish the irc mod xD
13:23 Side: give me a sec to go through it
13:23 Fort: im not sure beginner is for beginner
13:23 Fort: try use Basic as diffname
13:24 Fort: but idk
13:24 Fort: there is no basic at BMS
13:24 Side: yeah I wanted to use BMS naming system from the ENHIX thing
13:24 *Fort is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/769839 sky_delta - Kreuz [Beginner]]
13:24 Fort: 00:46:679 (3) - pls
13:24 Side: so I put beginner but its more like easy
13:25 Fort: put 2 slider ;-;
13:25 Side: yes ok I will change those 3 repeats sliders xD
13:26 Fort: 01:05:040 (2) - move this to 01:05:040 - then remove arrow, Extend the slider to 01:05:696 -
13:28 Side: wait move 2 where?
13:28 Side: you mean here? 01:04:876 -
13:28 Fort: oh yup
13:28 Fort: sorry
13:28 Side: I didn't do that cuz maybe it was too hard for beginner
13:28 Side: but idk I dont mind changing
13:29 Fort: it more reliable than deal with much reverses
13:29 Side: true
13:29 Fort: 01:18:155 (3) - please (again)
13:29 Fort: 01:20:777 (3) - please v.3 (again)
13:30 Side: lol yeah ik ik I'm changing them right now x_x
13:30 Side: lol
13:30 Fort: mosly hard patterns for beginners is reverses
13:30 Fort: mostly*
13:30 Fort: so i recommend you to make your map less reverse sliders
13:31 Fort: like
13:31 Fort: it can make density of maps more higher and readability skill more higher
13:33 Side: ok
13:33 Fort: your normal is legit
13:33 Fort: but
13:33 Fort: much 1/2s
13:33 Side: yeah I like mapping normal way more than easy :v
13:33 Fort: on 183bpm is like [Hard] diff
13:34 Fort: but yeah
13:34 Fort: advanced has 1/4s
13:37 *Fort is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/769744 sky_delta - Kreuz [Normal]]
13:38 Fort: 00:45:368 - i think this part is much density than 01:29:630 -
13:38 Fort: because 1/2 sliders
13:40 Side: hmm so should I make the first part easier or the 2nd part harder?
13:40 Side: I like the 2nd part cuz it follows the instrument with nice sliders
13:40 Fort: umm you're right i think
13:41 Fort: 00:45:368 - make this part kiai can be good i think
13:42 Fort: and 1 thing
13:42 Fort: http://puu.sh/l45F9/92f0ec18bc.png
13:42 *Fort is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/785113 sky_delta - Kreuz [Another]]
13:43 Fort: 00:55:859 - duplicated timing points + SV error
13:43 Fort: must fix
13:44 Side: timing?
13:44 Side: oh damn I didnt notice
13:46 Fort: okay maybe just it i can say
13:46 Fort: structure is unique i think
13:46 Side: people say I don't have structure instead I have more flow xD
13:47 Fort: yeah that's why i said your structure is unique
13:47 Side:

fix something on:
general:
+ video consistency
+ some additional kiai Added the kiai. Video idk it seems fine to me

Another:
+ spacing jumps
+ circle streams patterning
- duplicated timing points Fixed almost all the points from the IRC mod except the one for the circle stream for now because I kinda like that pattern. Did change the slider part though. I'll look over some jumps and stream patterns and I remove dthe duplicate timing points

Normal:
? patterning on kiai and non kiai Seemed fine to me but I did add a kiai during the middle section (did this on all diffs too)

Beginner:
-+ patterning at some timeline Changed the double repeat sliders :v

good luck! Thanks!

1. 00:29:302 (5) - make in blanket with 00:29:630 (1) - and rotate +62º degress
2. 00:31:269 (2,3) - move to x320 y156
3. 00:34:548 (1) - up it to y132
4. 00:45:368 (1) - its dont folowing the stream spacement, but i recommend use 1,0x snap distance
5. 00:54:220 (7) - reduce hitsound volume only for hear this
6. 01:05:368 (2) - move to blanket of previus slider
7. 01:05:368 (2) - move x148

1. i feel the flow speed in gameplay so low for a another diff:/
2. 00:13:237 (8) - i dont feel the need of this slider, maybe u can use only circles at this stream and progressive up spacement
3. 01:17:827 (1) - its overmap, dont have sounds to this slider and u forgot the sound in 01:17:745 -
4. 01:21:597 (5) - overmap

1. Check AiMod erros, unsnapped objects
2. 00:05:532 (4) - make it in straight with followline moving to x336 y184, but it still a bad flow, then i sugest u to rotate this
3. 00:14:220 (2) - so close of previus, move maybe x20 y20
4. 00:14:220 (2) - flow assassinate, after a stream u could make it a perfect flow to ppls dont hate because miss at a bad flow
5. 00:44:712 (1) - again a bad flow, the corretly would be to the right not to left
6. 01:22:089 (1) - rip bad jumpers, but its fun
7. 01:43:072 (5) - its look bad, rotate +100º degrees from center
   
8. 01:45:694 (3) - make in straight moving x56 y88
9. 01:46:678 (3) - move x456 y88 ^

suricate1 wrote:

Hello M4M
Beginner= Flawless woo!
Normal = Pefect, but

1. 01:59:629 - u forgot a important hit here

actually it has like a pause like the other parts 01:53:235 (1,2,3) - 01:55:858 (1,2,3) - it's a pattern I wanted to use to keep this part from being so dense
Broseph's Advanced =Looks SS except for

1. 01:20:777 (1,2,3) - so much overlaps (On behalf of broseph's absence) I think this is okay it doesn't play badly or affect readability plus I wouldn't see a way to change this if I wanted without having to change a lot of other stuff so I think it's fine this way.

Another =

1. i feel the flow speed in gameplay so low for a another diff:/
2. 00:13:237 (8) - i dont feel the need of this slider, maybe u can use only circles at this stream and progressive up spacement Sounds like a good idea but I wanted to emphasize the little twinkly instrument thing that plays 3 notes and still compliment the synth building up also so I did it this way as a result. Also plays well imo.
3. 01:17:827 (1) - its overmap, dont have sounds to this slider and u forgot the sound in 01:17:745 - This part emphasizes the louder breakcore-y type rhythm. And regarding that slider it's 1/8 if you listen to that part it's even more noticeable in 75% or 50%. Didn't map that sound because I wasn't focusing on the twinkly instrument thing here it's pretty much all about the drums.
4. 01:21:597 (5) - overmap nope this is meant to be 1/8.

the rest looks fine
Good Luck

suricate1 wrote:

Shiirn's Extra

1. Check AiMod erros, unsnapped objects
2. 00:05:532 (4) - make it in straight with followline moving to x336 y184, but it still a bad flow, then i sugest u to rotate this
3. 00:14:220 (2) - so close of previus, move maybe x20 y20
4. 00:14:220 (2) - flow assassinate, after a stream u could make it a perfect flow to ppls dont hate because miss at a bad flow
5. 00:44:712 (1) - again a bad flow, the corretly would be to the right not to left
6. 01:22:089 (1) - rip bad jumpers, but its fun
7. 01:43:072 (5) - its look bad, rotate +100º degrees from center
   
8. 01:45:694 (3) - make in straight moving x56 y88
9. 01:46:678 (3) - move x456 y88 ^

Tarrasky wrote:

[Shiirn's Extra]
[*]00:52:827 (3,4) - t is much more hard than your difficulty proposes in stars i think (5.56), I recommend you ask testplays and suggestions from players who play for this range of difficulty [/list]