You aren't interested in figuring out my alignment, ergo, you're not scumhunting, you're mislynching.sLaiNi wrote:
I am actually more scumhunting then you were. I call MB out for his strange self vote, you do it after me, after that all your posts are regarding your "meta thing".
ATM I am just searching for a point to pick up, as my main goal was to put pressure on you, before everyone was lowering it.
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Also "calling out" people isn't scumhunting, it's mudslinging, scumhunting is interaction and asking people questions to see if you're going right or wrong, you voteparked me and all you've done is say "how scummy i am for saying im meta shifting" and then saying "i'm meta shifting to hide scummy behaviour" this is NOT scumhunting, this is trying to throw mud and see if it sticks.
Anyway im gonna head to work (i finally have a job again!) cy'all later.
Are you literally kidding me? WTH should Jess lie about that, or are you trying to give her a signal like "don't reveal this?"Hika wrote:
i can't tell if this is a joke or not tbh
Vote: Jess
I tried it but I used the wrong thing to get started, as people could easily get the pressure off of you (which was rather unintentionally of them I guess).Sakura wrote:
You aren't interested in figuring out my alignment, ergo, you're not scumhunting, you're mislynching.
Have fun and congratulations.Sakura wrote:
Anyway im gonna head to work (i finally have a job again!) cy'all later.
I really would be agaist lynching Jess at least for now. That silbing claim could be really bad for us if it is real IMO, as I said that should resolve itself pretty soon so now there's no reason to put any more attention to it.Hika wrote:
i can't tell if this is a joke or not tbh
Vote: Jess
Also @Jess: It's really unlikely for a lynch to ocurr quickly. If you would be PL'd at any point you'd certainly have a moment to see that and then you could claim, but doing that before anyone shows the intention of lynching you... yeah you should get the idea.
Stuff like these make me see you're trying to get on her good side or something like that.sLaiNi wrote:
Have fun and congratulations.Sakura wrote:
Anyway im gonna head to work (i finally have a job again!) cy'all later.
I think we both know what's happening here. Just don't be stupid and pretend you don't see what I'm doing.sLaiNi wrote:
Are you literally kidding me? WTH should Jess lie about that, or are you trying to give her a signal like "don't reveal this?"Hika wrote:
i can't tell if this is a joke or not tbh
Vote: Jess
Just let it happen and move on.
And well shit, some people can lie about it but I'm doing this on purpose.
Whatever that is, she can take it up with her little lover. I ain't moving my vote yet. Give it 12 hours.
Besides, why does it matter that I voted her in the first place.
I can see what you mean but I don't think it applies in a situation like this. Just a little off topic conversation; I wouldn't pay any mind to it honestly.Zexion wrote:
Stuff like these make me see you're trying to get on her good side or something like that.
Actually nevermind, had to reread thread; this isn't going to work.
Unvote
Unvote
Actually I am kinda embarrased of why I was going nuts above your voteHika wrote:
Actually nevermind, had to reread thread; this isn't going to work.
Unvote
I actually distracted you with Haneii and was like "Did her loverpartner just say that this is a lie?"@Zexion Except that I am always trying to make everyone feel comfortable and that I already got called out for it several times (like my first game where I got misslynched and a post like this added suspicion on me p/4286099/ ), but I guess we're not going with meta this game, just a thing to mention there.
@Jess Your whole "I was afraid of a PL lynch" seems kinda pulled out of air, there's no reason you'd have to be afraid of a PL hammer. You don't have any true reasons behind this or don't you want to share them with us?
lynch SlaiNi -> lynch Hika -> applaud Frostings for winning the game
nice try lmaoFrostings wrote:
lynch SlaiNi -> lynch Hika -> applaud Frostings for winning the game
Regardless of Jess' motive, it's pretty clear we're not lynching her today. What do you expect to gain from this question?sLaiNi wrote:
@Jess Your whole "I was afraid of a PL lynch" seems kinda pulled out of air, there's no reason you'd have to be afraid of a PL hammer. You don't have any true reasons behind this or don't you want to share them with us?
Seriously, you're not paying attention to the game at all.
Vote: Slaini
*facedesk*
... what are you doing lmao
is this a joke
is this a joke
For all the people talking about how it would be stupid for scum to claim lovers prematurely, just remember that this is Jess. Nevertheless, we shouldn't lynch her today, as many people have also stated.
So far, I have a slight town read on zex
MB hasn't posted anything of substance the I can see right now, and this is uncharacteristic of him... [suspicion intensifies]
Unvote
Had a scum read on Sakura earlier on, but her posts have gotten better as of late (shifted from more setup spec posts to scumhunting)
@slaini, got any reads other than your earlier scum read on Sakura?
@haneii since you're here and at the time of this post have not confirmed jess's claim, could you please do so? If you have by the time I post this, then just ignore this
So far, I have a slight town read on zex
MB hasn't posted anything of substance the I can see right now, and this is uncharacteristic of him... [suspicion intensifies]
Unvote
Had a scum read on Sakura earlier on, but her posts have gotten better as of late (shifted from more setup spec posts to scumhunting)
@slaini, got any reads other than your earlier scum read on Sakura?
@haneii since you're here and at the time of this post have not confirmed jess's claim, could you please do so? If you have by the time I post this, then just ignore this
You already stated that you're against voting her, so why does it matter to you if I confirm it or not?
I didn't say I wouldn't vote her, I said I have no intention of lynching her, but that can change based on your answer.
so basically we should still lynch Jess
ok then
ok then
I mean yeah, sure it's Jess we're talking about but she's going to be obvious later on anyways
uh
uh
Why would it change?Ace Timing wrote:
I didn't say I wouldn't vote her, I said I have no intention of lynching her, but that can change based on your answer.
if you say her claim is false, it would indicate very clearly that she is lying and I see no reason to make such a claim if she was town.
Also, while we're still on the subject, why are you reserving yourself the choice to vote her, but discouraging others?
Why my word over Jess?Ace Timing wrote:
if you say her claim is false, it would indicate very clearly that she is lying
Why can't I be lying scum in that scenario?
I don't understand the meaning of your question.
Which one?
Jess has never lied about her role as town.Haneii wrote:
Why my word over Jess?Ace Timing wrote:
if you say her claim is false, it would indicate very clearly that she is lying
Why can't I be lying scum in that scenario?
Haneii wrote:
Which one?
This one ^Haneii wrote:
Also, while we're still on the subject, why are you reserving yourself the choice to vote her, but discouraging others?
Then why do you want me to confirm her claim?
If Jess is lying about her role, something she doesn't do as town, then my stance on whether or not she should be a viable lynch will change.Haneii wrote:
Then why do you want me to confirm her claim?
By you claiming to not be her sibling, it will be obvious that one of you is lying. I am more inclined to think that you would be telling the truth, if you were to lie and say you were not her sibling, it is possible for her to be lynched, and you would die as well, and in the case that Jess was scum, you would both die, and if you were town, you would still both die. In the case that you are town, you would decrease the chances of town winning. If you were scum, you would lose (I'm assuming that there are two players on the scum team with this assertion). With this in mind, it is unlikely that you would lie, and therefore I ask.
Ace Timing wrote:
This one ^Haneii wrote:
Also, while we're still on the subject, why are you reserving yourself the choice to vote her, but discouraging others?
I was referring to these two posts:
Ace Timing wrote:
For all the people talking about how it would be stupid for scum to claim lovers prematurely, just remember that this is Jess. Nevertheless, we shouldn't lynch her today, as many people have also stated.
Ace Timing wrote:
I didn't say I wouldn't vote her, I said I have no intention of lynching her, but that can change based on your answer.
I don't think we should lynch her, but that opinion can change. I still don't see why you ask, is it unusual to admit to the possibility that new information might cause you to rescind an earlier statement?
Dunno.
kek
MBomb
I have 4 townreads, 1 of which I've already stated, based off current discussions. However, Haneii's lack of confirmation is bothering me, there's basically no reason to ignore it. Either it's true, and Haneii should confirm so we don't lynch Jess and kill them too, or it's false, and so we get a lynch from Jess's fakeclaim.
I don't think jess would make up a fake claim out of this.
Also Zexion's also raising in my suspicions right now for taking a blow at sLaiNi just for being polite.
Also Zexion's also raising in my suspicions right now for taking a blow at sLaiNi just for being polite.
Rather i meant to say, i don't think Jess has the ability to think up a fake claim like that.
Also I think if there's 2 killing roles in this game it's likely they aren't both town.
Also I think if there's 2 killing roles in this game it's likely they aren't both town.
Arguing with Haneii about "confirming" what Jess said is pointless, if Jess was lying Haneii would've said so immediately unless both or Haneii are scum. The fact that Haneii isn't saying anything it means at the very least that it's the truth.
MBomb
The only reason i can see for Jess fake claiming that is because Haneii is her scumpartner and told her to do so, while im townreading Jess, i don't have a townread on Haneii (not a scumread either).
All i'm saying tho, is that this line of questioning leads nowhere, if Haneii is town and Jess is lying scum, Haneii would've already said something about it, so this is not a problem, we should focus our discussion elsewhere instead of wasting pages of "Why arent you confirming" "ehh" "CONFIRM IT DAMMIT"
All i'm saying tho, is that this line of questioning leads nowhere, if Haneii is town and Jess is lying scum, Haneii would've already said something about it, so this is not a problem, we should focus our discussion elsewhere instead of wasting pages of "Why arent you confirming" "ehh" "CONFIRM IT DAMMIT"
Oh also here i was referring to Haneii and Jess in the "it's likely they aren't both town" when i wrote this, but it's something that doesn't need to be sorted D1.Sakura wrote:
Also I think if there's 2 killing roles in this game it's likely they aren't both town.
Exactly. It leads us/anyone asking nowhere. *looks pointedly at Ace*Sakura wrote:
All i'm saying tho, is that this line of questioning leads nowhere
Topic Starter
Vote Count:
- 4 sLaiNi Frostings, -[Jess]-, Sakura, Zexion
- 2 Ace Timing Navizel, gumica
- 1 Sakura sLaiNi
- 0 Hika
- 0 - Magic Bomb -
- 0 Navizel
- 0 -[Jess]-
- 0 Zexion
- 0 Frostings
- 0 Gumica
- 0 Haneii
Not voting: Ace Timing, Hika, - Magic Bomb -, Haneii
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
I'm going to third this since this is obviously why I'm wondering why you don't stop lmao @ AceHaneii wrote:
Exactly. It leads us/anyone asking nowhere. *looks pointedly at Ace*
it's pointless and all town can do is agree with it and hope that it's not a fake claim.
I've got one question
why do you guys want slaini gone so bad? I know he's scummy but what else do you guys think?
I've got to RC in a second too
so in a serious sense please don't joke around and tell me a stupid reason why slaini is considered scum
o_OHika wrote:
I know he's scummy but what else do you guys think?
I'm not lynching him because he's scummy, im lynching him because he's not scumhunting and is just spreading suspicion, which is something scum do
Dunno what's wrong with that, Scummy doesnt equal scum. Hika's post makes sense.Haneii wrote:
o_OHika wrote:
I know he's scummy but what else do you guys think?
Well, duh.Sakura wrote:
Scummy doesnt equal scum.
Who said it didn't?Sakura wrote:
Hika's post makes sense.
Who said it didn't?[/quote]Sakura wrote:
Hika's post makes sense.
implicature said it didn't.Haneii wrote:
o_OHika wrote:
I know he's scummy but what else do you guys think?
Hmmm
What's with you Haneii O_o.
@Sakura: Tho this already happened, I believe every post here can be suspected of having other intentions, while I don't have anything agaist being polite and such, this is hardly the best place to socialize, isn't it?
Kinda late here, will post tomorrow.
@Sakura: Tho this already happened, I believe every post here can be suspected of having other intentions, while I don't have anything agaist being polite and such, this is hardly the best place to socialize, isn't it?
Kinda late here, will post tomorrow.
Why is it not the best place to socialize in a game about socialization.
People can be polite for out of game reasons, even I've done it multiple times before, i think you're just stretching reasons there.
People can be polite for out of game reasons, even I've done it multiple times before, i think you're just stretching reasons there.
Eh I agree with this...Sakura wrote:
Why is it not the best place to socialize in a game about socialization.
People can be polite for out of game reasons, even I've done it multiple times before, i think you're just stretching reasons there.
just don't stretch it out any further than it needs to be or it'll just make me draw more suspicion to you out of the blue. I don't get it.
I love how Hika asked for reasons to lynch sLaiNi, i give her some and doesnt comment on them.
Because I'm waiting for a little more honestly, so don't mind me running over them
1. sLaiNi jumps on the first opportunity to vote Sakura, after she already had a vote on her for the same reason, easy vote to make it look like he's contributing very early
2. He's "searching" (i.e. stalling and not actually contributing) for "a point to pick up" (searching for ways to scumpaint)
3. Wagon forms against sLaiNi and Hika tries to divert the attention away by voting for Jess
4. sLaiNi jumps on easy opportunity to distance
5. Hika doesn't notice it, pretty much orders sLaiNi to follow her lead
6. Hika founds out it's causing a bit more suspicion, unvotes Jess
7. sLaiNi also realizes this and then retracts his statement on Hika
Now they've started posting less as Ace does whatever he's doing regarding Haneii+Jess and town starts diverting the attention from the wagon at hand
2. He's "searching" (i.e. stalling and not actually contributing) for "a point to pick up" (searching for ways to scumpaint)
3. Wagon forms against sLaiNi and Hika tries to divert the attention away by voting for Jess
4. sLaiNi jumps on easy opportunity to distance
5. Hika doesn't notice it, pretty much orders sLaiNi to follow her lead
6. Hika founds out it's causing a bit more suspicion, unvotes Jess
7. sLaiNi also realizes this and then retracts his statement on Hika
Now they've started posting less as Ace does whatever he's doing regarding Haneii+Jess and town starts diverting the attention from the wagon at hand
sry for being off yesterday, I was quite busy with college. I'll catch up today in a matter of few hours.
Unvote
Unvote
MBomb
Like I said earlier, slaini is town.
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You're kinda reaching here Zexion, Sakura mentioned it here, so it makes sense for slaini to reply here. I mean he could've ignored it altogether but tbh it seems a bit rude (At least in my opinion) to do that.Zexion wrote:
@Sakura: Tho this already happened, I believe every post here can be suspected of having other intentions, while I don't have anything agaist being polite and such, this is hardly the best place to socialize, isn't it?
Don’t mind me. I’ve lost all my patience after a long day + Jess. Too many of you post for the sake of posting >.>Zexion wrote:
What's with you Haneii O_o.
“I can’t use your answer in anyway, really, but I’m need you to confirm anyways”
"I know he's scummy, but tell me why he's scummy/why you guys are voting him"
"Attention, I'm going to RC soon"
"I'm not lynching him because he's scummy, I'm lynching him because he's doing what scum sometimes do"
@Sakura & Co.: I seriously don't understand why are you guys so worried about this, in previous games I have been scumread just because "offtopic posts" so I thought the same applied here. If I seriously offended you with that, then I apologize and won't do it again. But stop, because this is totally irrelevant to the game. (And I saw some people using this issue just to post)
@Magic Bomb: Please elaborate your reasons of Slaini being town because I can't seriously find townvibes in Slaini's posting. (I asked this before but you ignored me)
I am voting Slaini because he still kept pushing the Jess issue calling "hidden intentions" when its quite obvious we won't get anything else from that. He's trying to look like he's doing something to scumhunt when in fact is only posting useless questions, and fake scumhunting is often a scum posting.
@Magic Bomb: Please elaborate your reasons of Slaini being town because I can't seriously find townvibes in Slaini's posting. (I asked this before but you ignored me)
What do you mean by "stupid reason"?Hika wrote:
so in a serious sense please don't joke around and tell me a stupid reason why slaini is considered scum
I am voting Slaini because he still kept pushing the Jess issue calling "hidden intentions" when its quite obvious we won't get anything else from that. He's trying to look like he's doing something to scumhunt when in fact is only posting useless questions, and fake scumhunting is often a scum posting.
why are we not lynching Ace
it's like the Mafia Tree again
it's like the Mafia Tree again
I'll work through everything.
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I am neither voting her, nor pushing her in any way. Firstly I expressed that I don't feel like she is playing her scum meta, and after that I just noticed that her reason for claiming is just strange and called her out for it.
I never said I had a scumread on her >before<. I stated several times that I wanted to pressure her, I use RVS most of the time to put someone on 2 votes, as noone cares about a single RVS vote on himself.Ace Timing wrote:
@slaini, got any reads other than your earlier scum read on Sakura?
Haneii's reaction indicates that they do belong to each other, this meaning that either they are siblings or they are both scum and lying about being siblings. I don't see any reason to claim siblings as scum, it is just too easy to disproof by lynching one (even though they delay a lynch as everyone will be cautious about doing so, so it would be sorted out by the lack of nightkills on them). So I will handle their claim as being true.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I have 4 townreads, 1 of which I've already stated, based off current discussions. However, Haneii's lack of confirmation is bothering me, there's basically no reason to ignore it. Either it's true, and Haneii should confirm so we don't lynch Jess and kill them too, or it's false, and so we get a lynch from Jess's fakeclaim.
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I am neither voting her, nor pushing her in any way. Firstly I expressed that I don't feel like she is playing her scum meta, and after that I just noticed that her reason for claiming is just strange and called her out for it.
I'll work through everything.
EBWODP
I never said I had a scumread on her >before<. I stated several times that I wanted to pressure her, I use RVS most of the time to put someone on 2 votes, as noone cares about a single RVS vote on himself.Ace Timing wrote:
@slaini, got any reads other than your earlier scum read on Sakura?
Haneii's reaction indicates that they do belong to each other, this meaning that either they are siblings or they are both scum and lying about being siblings. I don't see any reason to claim siblings as scum, it is just too easy to disproof by lynching one (even though they delay a lynch as everyone will be cautious about doing so, so it would be sorted out by the lack of nightkills on them). So I will handle their claim as being true.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I have 4 townreads, 1 of which I've already stated, based off current discussions. However, Haneii's lack of confirmation is bothering me, there's basically no reason to ignore it. Either it's true, and Haneii should confirm so we don't lynch Jess and kill them too, or it's false, and so we get a lynch from Jess's fakeclaim.
I am neither voting her, nor pushing her in any way. Firstly I expressed that I don't feel like she is playing her scum meta, and after that I just noticed that her reason for claiming is just strange and called her out for it.Zexion wrote:
I am voting Slaini because he still kept pushing the Jess issue calling "hidden intentions" when its quite obvious we won't get anything else from that. He's trying to look like he's doing something to scumhunt when in fact is only posting useless questions, and fake scumhunting is often a scum posting.
EBWODP
Now this is getting ridiculous, you call me out for not being scumhunting and spreading suspicion, while you did not scumhunt the whole game. You are literally just pushing me and saying "i was doing scummy things", while the only thing you accuse me of is not scumhunting.Sakura wrote:
I'm not lynching him because he's scummy, im lynching him because he's not scumhunting and is just spreading suspicion, which is something scum do
You're tunneling there is just too damn offensive in any way to be real. What have you been doing the whole game except "spreading suspicion" onto me? Do you even try to find scum or are you just trying to use the situation of an easy lynch on me?
#Page 7
Well, Jess & Hannei. Hmm... I would assume Jess is telling the truth, but the problematic question here is how they're aligned.
#Page 8
Now that you mentioned the PM, it would make sense. But it's still so dumb to claim that. so...
@Jess, why did you claim?
@Zexion, if you didn't obviously see, that was RVS
#Page 9
@Hika, what exactly makes you vote Jess?
#Page 10
@Zexion; So, you're trying to kill one of the few players that is actually gathering information? Sure, that kind of play makes him look suspicious, but he has the same playstyle when he's town, so what is your argument?
Vote: Zexion
#Conclusion
Jess and Hannei - town (for now) because of the claim
I don't believe sLaiNi in this case is in the wrong here.
Well, Jess & Hannei. Hmm... I would assume Jess is telling the truth, but the problematic question here is how they're aligned.
#Page 8
Now that you mentioned the PM, it would make sense. But it's still so dumb to claim that. so...
@Jess, why did you claim?
@Zexion, if you didn't obviously see, that was RVS
#Page 9
@Hika, what exactly makes you vote Jess?
#Page 10
@Zexion; So, you're trying to kill one of the few players that is actually gathering information? Sure, that kind of play makes him look suspicious, but he has the same playstyle when he's town, so what is your argument?
Vote: Zexion
#Conclusion
Jess and Hannei - town (for now) because of the claim
I don't believe sLaiNi in this case is in the wrong here.
@Gumi because I want to explain why I post the forget someone. and i want to see if I claim,what is her reaction on that claim.
Why should we be lynching with me?Navizel wrote:
why are we not lynching Ace
I am neither voting her, nor pushing her in any way. Firstly I expressed that I don't feel like she is playing her scum meta, and after that I just noticed that her reason for claiming is just strange and called her out for it.[/quote]Zexion wrote:
I am voting Slaini because he still kept pushing the Jess issue calling "hidden intentions" when its quite obvious we won't get anything else from that. He's trying to look like he's doing something to scumhunt when in fact is only posting useless questions, and fake scumhunting is often a scum posting.
It's not about whether you want Jess dead or not (something that will not happen today anyways) - It's about you pushing something that will lead nowhere, that only shows to me that you're just posting because you want to look like you're contributing.
Besides, did you seriously expect Jess to tell you her "hidden reasons" and stuff?
...Is this serious?Gumica wrote:
#Page 7
Well, Jess & Hannei. Hmm... I would assume Jess is telling the truth, but the problematic question here is how they're aligned.
#Page 8
Now that you mentioned the PM, it would make sense. But it's still so dumb to claim that. so...
@Jess, why did you claim?
@Zexion, if you didn't obviously see, that was RVS
#Page 9
@Hika, what exactly makes you vote Jess?
#Page 10
@Zexion; So, you're trying to kill one of the few players that is actually gathering information? Sure, that kind of play makes him look suspicious, but he has the same playstyle when he's town, so what is your argument?
Vote: Zexion
#Conclusion
Jess and Hannei - town (for now) because of the claim
I don't believe sLaiNi in this case is in the wrong here.
Jess said why she claimed.
MB said again that Slaini was town, that may have been RVS at that time but it's pretty serious now.
Slaini is not gathering information at all. He's defending himself, specially in his lastest posts, unless you actually want to call that Sakura accusation as gathering information.
Obviously Jess & Haneii are town for now.
Could you write this again? You're saying your claim was reaction testing or I'm reading this really wrong?-[Jess]- wrote:
@Gumi because I want to explain why I post the forget someone. and i want to see if I claim,what is her reaction on that claim.
I derped my last post. Reposting:
Besides, did you seriously expect Jess to tell you her "hidden reasons" and stuff?
Jess said why she claimed.
MB said again that Slaini was town, that may have been RVS at that time but it's pretty serious now.
Slaini is not gathering information at all. He's defending himself, specially in his lastest posts, unless you actually want to call that Sakura accusation as gathering information.
Obviously Jess & Haneii are town for now.[/quote]
It's not about whether you want Jess dead or not (something that will not happen today anyways) - It's about you pushing something that will lead nowhere, that only shows to me that you're just posting because you want to look like you're contributing.Slaini wrote:
I am neither voting her, nor pushing her in any way. Firstly I expressed that I don't feel like she is playing her scum meta, and after that I just noticed that her reason for claiming is just strange and called her out for it.Zexion wrote:
I am voting Slaini because he still kept pushing the Jess issue calling "hidden intentions" when its quite obvious we won't get anything else from that. He's trying to look like he's doing something to scumhunt when in fact is only posting useless questions, and fake scumhunting is often a scum posting.
Besides, did you seriously expect Jess to tell you her "hidden reasons" and stuff?
...Is this serious?Gumica wrote:
#Page 7
Well, Jess & Hannei. Hmm... I would assume Jess is telling the truth, but the problematic question here is how they're aligned.
#Page 8
Now that you mentioned the PM, it would make sense. But it's still so dumb to claim that. so...
@Jess, why did you claim?
@Zexion, if you didn't obviously see, that was RVS
#Page 9
@Hika, what exactly makes you vote Jess?
#Page 10
@Zexion; So, you're trying to kill one of the few players that is actually gathering information? Sure, that kind of play makes him look suspicious, but he has the same playstyle when he's town, so what is your argument?
Vote: Zexion
#Conclusion
Jess and Hannei - town (for now) because of the claim
I don't believe sLaiNi in this case is in the wrong here.
Jess said why she claimed.
MB said again that Slaini was town, that may have been RVS at that time but it's pretty serious now.
Slaini is not gathering information at all. He's defending himself, specially in his lastest posts, unless you actually want to call that Sakura accusation as gathering information.
Obviously Jess & Haneii are town for now.[/quote]
fixed.Ace Timing wrote:
Why should we be lynching me?Navizel wrote:
why are we not lynching Ace
Especially that I was not the only one to notice that something was not right with "I was afraid of a PL", neither was I the only one to call it out. You and Sakura are pushing me for something that multiple people did, but you literally just lay it out like I did something not understandably stupid. You are just pushing me for stupid reasons as Sakura is, in case Sakura is actually scum (which is quite likely for me), you are definitely her scumpartner. This also strenghens my suspicion on Sakura, as this would explain her and your playstyle.Zexion wrote:
It's not about whether you want Jess dead or not (something that will not happen today anyways) - It's about you pushing something that will lead nowhere, that only shows to me that you're just posting because you want to look like you're contributing.
So you want to call out your and Sakura's accusation throwing onto me "gathering information"? Basically you say that I am doing what you two are doing and after that you say that this is scummy.Zexion wrote:
MB said again that Slaini was town, that may have been RVS at that time but it's pretty serious now.
Slaini is not gathering information at all. He's defending himself, specially in his lastest posts, unless you actually want to call that Sakura accusation as gathering information.
Obviously Jess & Haneii are town for now.
I am pretty confident about my reads on you two right now.
Also I read MB pretty town now, as he would not have any reason to read me town if he was scum.
Considering Haneii's reaction I'd say the PL reason was pretty plausible for Jess. Also I don't know what kind of information I can gather about a meta change thing, it's not about how many questions you make - it's about the quality of those. That's what gathering "information" is about.
Also, scumreading the people who scumread you and townreading the people who townread you? Wow.
Nice from you not saying anything about Gumica's last post (a whole bunch of repeating and answered questions), you're also doing the tunneling you accuse.
Also, scumreading the people who scumread you and townreading the people who townread you? Wow.
Nice from you not saying anything about Gumica's last post (a whole bunch of repeating and answered questions), you're also doing the tunneling you accuse.
sLaiNi: Could you care to point out your amazing scumhunting that you're doing then? I seem to have missed it because i'm not seeing it anywhere.
And yet again you create a pile of "you're also doing", by stating that I am tunneling, while you are tunneling.Zexion wrote:
Considering Haneii's reaction I'd say the PL reason was pretty plausible for Jess. Also I don't know what kind of information I can gather about a meta change thing, it's not about how many questions you make - it's about the quality of those. That's what gathering "information" is about.
Also, scumreading the people who scumread you and townreading the people who townread you? Wow.
Nice from you not saying anything about Gumica's last post (a whole bunch of repeating and answered questions), you're also doing the tunneling you accuse.
So tell me where is the part where you, or especially Sakura asked "high quality question". Go on with it and tell me what important information you got out of it.
Sakura wrote:
sLaiNi: Could you care to point out your amazing scumhunting that you're doing then? I seem to have missed it because i'm not seeing it anywhere.
We literally just posted the same question at the same time.
So basically you confirm that you are not scumhunting, as your answer to my "you don't scumhunt" was yet to ask me again where my scumhunting is? Why don't you show me where YOU scumhunt instead of shifting the topic to me again.
See thing here is that you start with
>Sakura you said this that explain yourself
>I get back with a question of "What do you want me to explain?"
>sLaiNi instead of replying says im scum for saying the same thing i sad in a towngame
>I vote sLaiNi because that's not scumhunting, that's scumpainting
>sLaiNi replies with the fact that he's scumhunting because he's scumreading me.
>I reply saying that to scumhunt you ask questions and interact, not park a vote and call it scum
>sLaiNi keeps saying that he's scumhunting.
tl;dr sLaiNi is scum.
>Sakura you said this that explain yourself
>I get back with a question of "What do you want me to explain?"
>sLaiNi instead of replying says im scum for saying the same thing i sad in a towngame
>I vote sLaiNi because that's not scumhunting, that's scumpainting
>sLaiNi replies with the fact that he's scumhunting because he's scumreading me.
>I reply saying that to scumhunt you ask questions and interact, not park a vote and call it scum
>sLaiNi keeps saying that he's scumhunting.
tl;dr sLaiNi is scum.
My case on you revolves around "You're not scumhunting, instead you're just spreading suspicion", if your first instinct is to say "I'm scumhunting but you're not" instead of actually scumhunting, that's something scum does, you're handwaving all my arguments and questions.
That's how one scumhunts
That's how one scumhunts
Messagess were composed when I was reading through the thread, do don't take it personally. And no, I didn't contribute anything yet, obviously, since I wasn't present yesterday. 2 days ago was RVS, basically bunch of BS, and you know it.
Still, Jess could have gathered information with his claim, but claiming so early makes no sense, information wise, or sense wise.
So Jess, what was it?
Still, Jess could have gathered information with his claim, but claiming so early makes no sense, information wise, or sense wise.
So Jess, what was it?
MBomb
I don't see scum trying to pressure me into trying to do something in the game. This along with Slaini's playstyle in general makes me pretty sure he's town. I want to hear Navizel's reasonings behind Ace Timing getting lynched (I don't have ISOs so I might be missing something, this is why I asked for them.)sLaiNi wrote:
I don't see a reason for you to do that, could you actually do something with your vote?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Vote: - Magic Bomb -
MBomb
MBomb
So, not voting you for something like that, but voting me for changing my meta and playstyle is not suspicious?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Oh just to add more reasoning to what I said earlier. Slaini could've very easily just scumpainted me by saying something like "Oh, not using your vote for pressure, that's suspicious.", which would be a very easy thing for scum to say.
About the meta shift message from sakura.
[quote=Sakura]Hi all, as i said on the previous game (lovers mafia) im trying a meta shift, so my playstyle this game might be awkward to those that know me.[/quote]
You were town in that game, saying this again could imply that you are a different alignment, and while this isn't my interpretation, some could think that way.
[quote=Sakura]Hi all, as i said on the previous game (lovers mafia) im trying a meta shift, so my playstyle this game might be awkward to those that know me.[/quote]
You were town in that game, saying this again could imply that you are a different alignment, and while this isn't my interpretation, some could think that way.
quotes pls
Anything im self-aware of doing in a game is a null tell, i never said it was a town tell, but it def. is not a scum tell either, that's reaching for reasoning.
Basically:
I have reasons for saying it as scum (I did so previously in a town game)
I also have reasons for saying it as town.
sLaiNi has said why i would do it as scum, but has yet to provide why i wouldn't do it as town, this is scumpainting because he's not considering all options and is hapring on a null tell trying to twist it to make it look like a scum tell.
I have reasons for saying it as scum (I did so previously in a town game)
I also have reasons for saying it as town.
sLaiNi has said why i would do it as scum, but has yet to provide why i wouldn't do it as town, this is scumpainting because he's not considering all options and is hapring on a null tell trying to twist it to make it look like a scum tell.
Sakura wrote:
My case on you revolves around "You're not scumhunting, instead you're just spreading suspicion", if your first instinct is to say "I'm scumhunting but you're not" instead of actually scumhunting, that's something scum does, you're handwaving all my arguments and questions.
That's how one scumhunts
The thing is that you are, again, just doing the same. AGAIN you call me out that pointing out that you are not scum hunting is not scumhuntin. So you AGAIN call me out for something that you are doing yourself. Why are you doing this? Can't you actually give me a reason EXCEPT that I am scumreading you for pushing me instead of scumhunting, because we won't get any further like this and it seems that you try to keep this conversation on this level intentionally.
That seems pretty confusing: "AGAIN you call me out that pointing out that you are not scum hunting is not scumhuntin. "
You say, that I am not scumhunting, because I am just saying that you are only pushing me and that that is not scumhunting.
You say, that I am not scumhunting, because I am just saying that you are only pushing me and that that is not scumhunting.
Problem is, whether I tunnel or not is totally irrelevant because YOU were the one who said it was wrong (or suspected Sakura because she was doing it), so if you do it your argument falls, and I haven't said anything about tunneling before. (Also, I'm not tunneling).sLaiNi wrote:
And yet again you create a pile of "you're also doing", by stating that I am tunneling, while you are tunneling.Zexion wrote:
Considering Haneii's reaction I'd say the PL reason was pretty plausible for Jess. Also I don't know what kind of information I can gather about a meta change thing, it's not about how many questions you make - it's about the quality of those. That's what gathering "information" is about.
Also, scumreading the people who scumread you and townreading the people who townread you? Wow.
Nice from you not saying anything about Gumica's last post (a whole bunch of repeating and answered questions), you're also doing the tunneling you accuse.
So tell me where is the part where you, or especially Sakura asked "high quality question". Go on with it and tell me what important information you got out of it.
And you seem to be misunderstanding the other part, I meant to say that not because you start doing questions you are scumhunting, you're scumhunting because of WHAT you are asking.
That's not a valid excuse. If you were doing that post while reading the thread you would have found the answers to your questions and wouldn't have asked them again. Also, you can always get something useful from RVS no matter how bullshit it is (also it was pretty funny, speciallly the iluminati confirmed).Gumica wrote:
Messagess were composed when I was reading through the thread, do don't take it personally. And no, I didn't contribute anything yet, obviously, since I wasn't present yesterday. 2 days ago was RVS, basically bunch of BS, and you know it.
Still, Jess could have gathered information with his claim, but claiming so early makes no sense, information wise, or sense wise.
So Jess, what was it?
Also, you still think I'm trying to kill a player who "gathers information"?
@MB: How's Haneii and Gumica a townread? They could be scum silbings for all we know. Only reason to keep them alive is the great risk of lynching them.
@Mod: Votecount
I have something cool to show you all, my town friends after I receive the vote count + I'll read everyone's posts when I get to a computer.
Also Frostings, way to be all for town
I have something cool to show you all, my town friends after I receive the vote count + I'll read everyone's posts when I get to a computer.
Also Frostings, way to be all for town