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Marina And The Diamonds - Weeds
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Topic Starter
All diffs finished, ready for mods 
And thanks a lot Bakari for the storyboard!
And thanks a lot Bakari for the storyboard!Kocari wrote:
So Gud, Will Mod Later /runs
- yipadgnosd psodfjkp sodkf sdf
Normal
- 00:18:306 (4,5,1) - would something like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3449986 be too dense rythm wise? feels more intuitive to follow since I don't really skipping the peak on 00:18:546 (5) - works very well
- 00:32:466 (3,3) - shouldn't both of these have whistle one them? err or atleast be consistent :c
- 00:40:626 (3,4) - perhaps move these a little closer to 1.00 spacing if you feel like it. Pretty easy to keep the symmetry while fixing the spacing, no need to mess with the current pattern c:
- 01:16:386 (4,1,2,3) - sdgskghsd you probably know better than I do when it comes to things like that but when looking at these I think the second one is a lot nice to play since the angle between 01:16:386 (4,1) - is pretty sharp and since the tail of 01:17:106 (1) - is ~1.00 away from the short slider I think a player might easily end up aiming for the tail.
- 01:24:306 (4) - would personally rather have this as a drum-whistle too, don't really think the slight peak in vocals (is this even a peak) calls for a finish here. 01:27:666 (5) - works better I think since the vocals here are kinda high pitched so I guess this kinda does support a finish
- 00:53:346 (6) - has a finish but 01:58:626 (6) - doesn't, shouldn't they be consistent doe
- 02:03:186 (1) - wouldn't a finish on the head be more fitting?
Mao's Advanced - 00:36:786 (1,3,1) - kinduh nazi I guess but https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450097 would have 1 perfectly catch the round-ish movement, which plays a tad bit smoother I think
- 01:20:466 (3) - ctrl+g on this could be funnnn + it would put more emphasize on 01:20:946 (1) - which is also quite nice I think completely optional though haha
- 01:30:066 (3,1,2) - y no 1.4 between these?
- 01:33:186 (4) - why not have this as a circle and then have a 1/2 star on the white tick? Imo while having 01:32:706 (2,3) - both clickable I think the most intuitive thing to do is following vocals all the way through as a player. Oh and I kinda think the song does feel a little more intense so having the rythm a little more dense here doesn't feel overdone
- 01:35:106 (4) - ^
- 02:23:106 (2,3) - wwww have these at 1.4 too? not sure if this is intentional or not
- 02:36:546 (2,3,4) - inb4 blankt plis
dunno if I'm actually being helpful or just pulling stuff outta my ass I'll have you decide haha
Collab Hard - 00:15:666 (1,2,3) - a little clunky I think :c
- 00:21:906 (1,2,3,1) - personally found this to be a tiny bit confusing as I was sorta expecting the map to follow drums here so what I was expecting was a 1/1 gap between 00:22:866 (3,1) - . eeeh probably just me
- 00:42:066 (5) - ctrl+g here could be fun and would go along nicely with how (kinda) jumpy the previous pattern was
- 01:33:186 (3) - same thing as mentioned above, though I guess following in drums here is just fine ;_;
- 01:37:506 (2) - would honestly rather have this curved for something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450246 as I feel like it makes the whole thing a little less riggid to play, since the angle between 01:36:306 (1,2) - already is fairly sharp + the player is being force to sorta finish the 1/2 early to properly catch the circle at an angle that is also fairly sharp, which overall just doesn't seem very smooth
- 02:03:666 (2) - is the finish on the head here really needed? wouldn't it be more fitting on 02:03:186 (1) - ?
- 02:06:306 (4) - are you sure about skipping drums on this white tickkk? not skipping it for the Normal either so eeeh just seems kinda odd
- 02:19:986 (3,4,1) - idunno if this is just me but the movement between these doesn't feel like one clean motion, it's a little jiggly :c slight re-ardjustment would probably fix this
yeah I think that is just about everything that I can find without being unneccessarily picky about stuff that is not an issue in the first place he
Good luck!
Topic Starter
That was an awesome mod, thank you a lot! (btw the rest in Hard is Sieg's part)Peachtrees wrote:
- yipadgnosd psodfjkp sodkf sdf
Normal
- 00:18:306 (4,5,1) - would something like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3449986 be too dense rythm wise? feels more intuitive to follow since I don't really skipping the peak on 00:18:546 (5) - works very well Good suggestion, fixed!
- 00:32:466 (3,3) - shouldn't both of these have whistle one them? err or atleast be consistent :c Fixed
- 00:40:626 (3,4) - perhaps move these a little closer to 1.00 spacing if you feel like it. Pretty easy to keep the symmetry while fixing the spacing, no need to mess with the current pattern c: That doesn't really matter if the spacing is 1.00 or 1.06, I'd rather keep it this way to have the agles a bit sharper
- 01:16:386 (4,1,2,3) - sdgskghsd you probably know better than I do when it comes to things like that but when looking at these I think the second one is a lot nice to play since the angle between 01:16:386 (4,1) - is pretty sharp and since the tail of 01:17:106 (1) - is ~1.00 away from the short slider I think a player might easily end up aiming for the tail. Fixed
- 01:24:306 (4) - would personally rather have this as a drum-whistle too, don't really think the slight peak in vocals (is this even a peak) calls for a finish here. 01:27:666 (5) - works better I think since the vocals here are kinda high pitched so I guess this kinda does support a finish Fixed
- 00:53:346 (6) - has a finish but 01:58:626 (6) - doesn't, shouldn't they be consistent doe Fixed
- 02:03:186 (1) - wouldn't a finish on the head be more fitting? Fixed
Collab Hard- 00:15:666 (1,2,3) - a little clunky I think :c Nah I like this pattern
- 00:21:906 (1,2,3,1) - personally found this to be a tiny bit confusing as I was sorta expecting the map to follow drums here so what I was expecting was a 1/1 gap between 00:22:866 (3,1) - . eeeh probably just me Hmm but I'm following vocals and (sometimes) ignoring drums in the whole first section tbh
- 00:42:066 (5) - ctrl+g here could be fun and would go along nicely with how (kinda) jumpy the previous pattern was Nice suggestion, fixed!
yeah I think that is just about everything that I can find without being unneccessarily picky about stuff that is not an issue in the first place he
Good luck!
(o_ _)ﾉ彡☆ take my star, beautiful map
Topic Starter
Thank you :3Lama Poluna wrote:
(o_ _)ﾉ彡☆ take my star, beautiful map
Couldn't find much, sorry, no kd.
[Collab Hard]
[Collab Hard]
- 00:24:306 (3) - 5% volume slider end? Would be better maybe.
- 00:33:906 (2,5) - Maybe rotate that slider so it doesn't overlap, would look better.
- 01:24:306 (1,2) - Veeeery minor but you need to move the end point of 1 a little to the right so it points more in the centre of 2, or maybe even better to rotate 2 a little to make 1's end point more in the centre for a better looking blanket.
- 01:28:626 (1,2) - Same thing here.
:3 ~~~
That's all :3
Sorry~~ couldn't find much problem T.T the mapset looks great :3
Relaxing song, mapset, and storyboard... Take this >w</
General
- normal-hitclap.wav & soft-hitclap.wav have 1.5 silence after the hitsound. Consider to cut it.
Hard Collab
- 00:40:866 (2) - How about make this slider curved in other way ? It will give a better transition both from the previous note and to the next note.
- 01:07:506 (1,2) - This 1/2 spacing was so different with another 1/2 spacing. It use antijump spacing when the other 1/2 like this use a spaced spacing (Example 01:09:426 (1,2) - and the whole pattern like this.). I'm affraid if it will read as 00:20:946 (4,1) - (But I still can read it . I'm just affraid if other people will read it like that). Consider to give a consistent spacing for this 1/2 too.
- 01:35:826 (5) - How about ctrl+g on it and make a little curve ? I don't really feel the flow that you did on 01:35:106 (4,5) - . If I describe it in image, this is the difference between my flow and your flow (flow started from (4)'s sliderball-followcircle and cuntinue with (5)'s sliderball-followcircle).
- 01:51:666 (1) - Maybe you can make the blanketing curve looks smoother. I think it will looks good :3. (This mod applied for 02:39:666 (1) - too)
Mao's Advanced
- 01:20:946 (1) - Curve it in other way ? It will give a better transition to the next note. And I think it's alright to not giving a transition between 01:20:466 (3,1) - Since it was NC.
- You have a different spinner start between 01:01:746 (1,1) - and 02:07:026 (1,1) - . I can see that they have a same effect both in vocal and instrument so why should they different ? Consider to make them consistent. (I prefer the first spinner start because I see the spinner start follow the vocal :3)
Normal
- 00:24:666 - unnecessary green line. It have no use for any notes.
- 01:33:426 - , 01:35:346 - I don't really sure ignore the vocal emphasis there was a good idea. You ignore the emphasis and follow the lower vocal effect makes feels a bit weird when I play it. How about this pattern ? With that way, we didn't ignore any big effect in the combo.
That's all :3
Sorry~~ couldn't find much problem T.T the mapset looks great :3
Relaxing song, mapset, and storyboard... Take this >w</
Topic Starter
Rest is Sieg's part. I'm giving you Kudosu anyways, since you put effort into the little mod! >w< Thank you!cheezstik wrote:
Couldn't find much, sorry, no kd.
[Collab Hard]
- 00:24:306 (3) - 5% volume slider end? Would be better maybe. Nah I prefer that it's still audible, especially since it's the only time in this map. I am thinking about getting rid of it anyway
- 00:33:906 (2,5) - Maybe rotate that slider so it doesn't overlap, would look better. I think the overlap looks nice, and the flow is nice too, so no change here.
Thank you! The rest in Hard was Sieg's part.Blizs wrote:
:3 ~~~General
- normal-hitclap.wav & soft-hitclap.wav have 1.5 silence after the hitsound. Consider to cut it. Fixed!
Hard Collab
- 00:40:866 (2) - How about make this slider curved in other way ? It will give a better transition both from the previous note and to the next note. I think the rotated symmetry 00:40:146 (3,1,2) - here works well and the flow is supposed to be not-that-smooth to emphasize the special vocals here
- 01:07:506 (1,2) - This 1/2 spacing was so different with another 1/2 spacing. It use antijump spacing when the other 1/2 like this use a spaced spacing (Example 01:09:426 (1,2) - and the whole pattern like this.). I'm affraid if it will read as 00:20:946 (4,1) - (But I still can read it
Normal
- 00:24:666 - unnecessary green line. It have no use for any notes. Deleted
- 01:33:426 - , 01:35:346 - I don't really sure ignore the vocal emphasis there was a good idea. You ignore the emphasis and follow the lower vocal effect makes feels a bit weird when I play it. How about this pattern ? With that way, we didn't ignore any big effect in the combo. I see what you mean here, but I want to keep some variation. I've used that pattern 3/2-slider + 1/1-slider many times already and the current one does work well for me, as I don't think the vocals are so strong at those white ticks.
That's all :3
Sorry~~ couldn't find much problem T.T the mapset looks great :3
Relaxing song, mapset, and storyboard... Take this >w</
Topic Starter
So, I'm replying to the mods for Sieg's part now:
Peachtrees wrote:
- yipadgnosd psodfjkp sodkf sdf
Collab Hard
- 01:33:186 (3) - same thing as mentioned above, though I guess following in drums here is just fine ;_; Yeah it's fine and offers a little variation
- 01:37:506 (2) - would honestly rather have this curved for something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3450246 as I feel like it makes the whole thing a little less riggid to play, since the angle between 01:36:306 (1,2) - already is fairly sharp + the player is being force to sorta finish the 1/2 early to properly catch the circle at an angle that is also fairly sharp, which overall just doesn't seem very smooth Fixed!
- 02:03:666 (2) - is the finish on the head here really needed? wouldn't it be more fitting on 02:03:186 (1) - ? Nah I think Sieg wants to put emphasis on rather risky rhythm variation here, otherwise it will sound empty
- 02:06:306 (4) - are you sure about skipping drums on this white tickkk? not skipping it for the Normal either so eeeh just seems kinda odd Following vocals is just fine here.
- 02:19:986 (3,4,1) - idunno if this is just me but the movement between these doesn't feel like one clean motion, it's a little jiggly :c slight re-ardjustment would probably fix this Fixed!
yeah I think that is just about everything that I can find without being unneccessarily picky about stuff that is not an issue in the first place he
Good luck!
cheezstik wrote:
Couldn't find much, sorry, no kd.
[Collab Hard]
- 01:24:306 (1,2) - Veeeery minor but you need to move the end point of 1 a little to the right so it points more in the centre of 2, or maybe even better to rotate 2 a little to make 1's end point more in the centre for a better looking blanket. Fixed!
- 01:28:626 (1,2) - Same thing here. This one seems just fine
Alright, updated. Waiting for Mao now.Blizs wrote:
:3 ~~~Hard Collab
- 01:35:826 (5) - How about ctrl+g on it and make a little curve ? I don't really feel the flow that you did on 01:35:106 (4,5) - . If I describe it in image, this is the difference between my flow and your flow (flow started from (4)'s sliderball-followcircle and cuntinue with (5)'s sliderball-followcircle). The flow is just fine, it's not supposed to be that smooth
- 01:51:666 (1) - Maybe you can make the blanketing curve looks smoother. I think it will looks good :3. (This mod applied for 02:39:666 (1) - too) I know Sieg prefers the wavesliders like this, I think it doesn't look bad ^^
That's all :3
Sorry~~ couldn't find much problem T.T the mapset looks great :3
Relaxing song, mapset, and storyboard... Take this >w</
So yeah, fixed everything else. The spacings are there because of the stacks btw.Peachtrees wrote:
- Mao's Advanced
- 01:33:186 (4) - why not have this as a circle and then have a 1/2 star on the white tick? Imo while having 01:32:706 (2,3) - both clickable I think the most intuitive thing to do is following vocals all the way through as a player. Oh and I kinda think the song does feel a little more intense so having the rythm a little more dense here doesn't feel overdone a) keeping it consistent with Hard to avoid density conflicts and b) drums, so yeah keeping this!
- 01:35:106 (4) - ^ ^
@Blizs, fixed the spinner. The other pattern was already changed with Peachtrees mod so that the transition is different now anyways!
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Tags:Sieg Mao -Bakari- Collab Froot Marina Lambrini Diamandis Μαρίνα Λαμπρινή Διαμαντή
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Bakari wrote:
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We take metadata from official YouTube/Soundcloud accounts of the artist. The links can be found on the artist's website and it appears to be the most commonly used way of writing. In addition to that, I warn you that the album art is stylized and can not be considered as the acceptable source, I believe. Even the label themselves prefer this way. (link). This should resolve most of the questions, thanks.
- As the difficulty intends to be the easiest I highly advice you not to use lower Distance Spacing for 1/2 patterns. The main purpose of the easiest difficulties is to teach players time-distance equality rule, and when you change the DS like that beginners might get a wrong idea.
- 00:39:666 - just to avoid an awkward polarity change add a circle here for the soft drum sound.
Note: same goes here. - 01:16:386 (4,1) -and 01:18:306 (2,3) - constantly keep in mind that this is the easiest difficulty of the set. So, I highly recommend to avoid any, eventhe slightest DS changes. Beginners tent to draw sliders from the beginning and right untill the end, so they will feel the DS increase.
Note: same gies for all the similar patterns. - 02:33:906 (1,2,3) - minor - this feels somewhat a bit messy for the easiest difficulty.
The difficulty itself is really nice and good-looking but quite a few things like DS changes and a couple of patterns don't work in a way you want them to work with beginners.
- 00:29:826 (2,3) - and 00:40:866 (2,3) - for a sofeter and more natural transition within the spread I would highly advice you to avoid 2+x jumps.
- 01:58:626 (4) - I recommend you to replace previous circles with a slider and use circles here instead. The way music goes here and your hitsounding require some emphasis, you can even add a little jump.
Cool stuff, couldn'r catch anything, in fact.
- 01:51:666 (1,2) - minor - I don't really get the way your flow works here, could you explain this to me or maybe move it around in a different way?
This is hot.
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Best of luck!
Topic Starter
Thanks a lot for this great mod! I made some changes to the lowest diff while considering your mod and mainly the testplay of a newbie player.Bakari wrote:
Yo, as requested.
[General]Marina used this capitalization for this new album, and Mao has used the same capitalization for his ranked Savages map. She is using different capitalizations for every album, so I'd like to keep this one.
- As most of the offical sources suggest uncapitalize "the" in the Artist.
Quote from the recently checked MaTD setBakari wrote:
Metadata
We take metadata from official YouTube/Soundcloud accounts of the artist. The links can be found on the artist's website and it appears to be the most commonly used way of writing. In addition to that, I warn you that the album art is stylized and can not be considered as the acceptable source, I believe. Even the label themselves prefer this way. (link). This should resolve most of the questions, thanks.
[Normal]I had a newbie testplay this difficulty and noticed the following things:
- As the difficulty intends to be the easiest I highly advice you not to use lower Distance Spacing for 1/2 patterns. The main purpose of the easiest difficulties is to teach players time-distance equality rule, and when you change the DS like that beginners might get a wrong idea.
- 00:39:666 - just to avoid an awkward polarity change add a circle here for the soft drum sound.
Note: same goes here.- 01:16:386 (4,1) -and 01:18:306 (2,3) - constantly keep in mind that this is the easiest difficulty of the set. So, I highly recommend to avoid any, eventhe slightest DS changes. Beginners tent to draw sliders from the beginning and right untill the end, so they will feel the DS increase.
Note: same gies for all the similar patterns.- 02:33:906 (1,2,3) - minor - this feels somewhat a bit messy for the easiest difficulty.
The difficulty itself is really nice and good-looking but quite a few things like DS changes and a couple of patterns don't work in a way you want them to work with beginners.
- the distance snap was not a problem. 0.8x is not much different from 1.0x, the change is not noticeable ingame.
- about the polarity changes - the one you pointed out was fine to play for the newbie, as the object after the 3/2-gap is a slider. i have used these 3/2-gaps to give some breaks in rhythm. however, the player had a problem with this rhythm 00:18:306 - as it was right at the beginning of a map, and a circle came afterwards. i have changed this rhythm to prevent this from happening.
- the ds changes were no problem at all for the player. this can be explained as the objects look closer to each other than they are in reality. i really want to keep the jumps to emphasize these sections
- 02:33:906 (1,2,3) - this pattern is indeed messy, thanks for pointing that out. the player also had problems reading it. changed!
[Collab Hard]Reconsider the things which I believe are inappropriate in the easiest diff and we should be good to go.
- 01:51:666 (1,2) - minor - I don't really get the way your flow works here, could you explain this to me or maybe move it around in a different way? Sieg's pattern, but I think it flows really well... The flow is not that smooth but it is not supposed to be, and the jump to the left + direction change fits well to emphasize the music here
This is hot.
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Best of luck!
There's such a thing as stilization, album covers often use various replacement for words/letters and they tend to be rather inconsistent. For example, The Family Jewels has "diamonds" uncapitalized, which does not make sense at all. I'd still recommend to stick to more consistent sources like official YouTube and SoundCloud channels.
Topic Starter
Nah... I'll be sticking to this version as it is official and looks better, sorry.
btw, source: http://www.marinaandthediamonds.com/
btw, source: http://www.marinaandthediamonds.com/
I have kept the jump as it's fairly easy to understand and not so huge due to the slider leniency and the Normal even has small jumps so I think it balances it quite well. Fixed the other one though!
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Topic Starter
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20:30 Desperate-kun: vergiss nicht im forum zu posten
20:03 *Desperate-kun is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/749482 Marina And The Diamonds - Weeds]
20:03 Desperate-kun: bub please
20:03 Desperate-kun: ;------------------------;
20:03 Desperate-kun: jk xD
20:03 Okoratu: hab ich mir gestern angeschaut
20:03 Desperate-kun: was echt? wieso das o:
20:03 Okoratu: weil ich wissen wollte ob ich das wohl einfach bubblen wuerd
20:04 Desperate-kun: und, würdest du nicht? xD
20:04 Okoratu: die hard is irgendwie seltsam idk bleib ich von weg
20:04 Desperate-kun: hmm okay :c
20:04 Desperate-kun: joa is halt .. kp
20:05 Desperate-kun: ich mag sie aber
20:05 Desperate-kun: aber ja sie ist etwas außergewöhnlich xD
20:05 Okoratu: und ich weiss nich was ich davon halten soll
20:05 Desperate-kun: was findest du denn schlecht o:
20:05 Okoratu: ich hab hab die halt 3 mal gespielt und konnte mir keine meinung bilden und dann hab ich mir gesagt hm dann lass ich's
20:05 Desperate-kun: hmm k
20:06 Okoratu: 2 diff app is doch erlaubt oder
20:06 Desperate-kun: mainstream viech :*
20:06 Desperate-kun: ja
20:12 Okoratu: im vergleich zur advanced is die halt schon ziemlich jump... lastig
20:12 Okoratu: lol
20:12 Desperate-kun: joa schon
20:13 Okoratu: und ich komm stellenweise auf das flow konzept nich klar
20:13 Desperate-kun: magst du Sieg's Maps generell nicht?
20:13 Okoratu: kA ich hab kaum sieg maps
20:14 *Desperate-kun is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/545933 Rammstein - Los]
20:14 Desperate-kun: <3
20:14 Desperate-kun: naja der flow und die jumps sind intentional
20:14 Desperate-kun: aber schon okay wenn dus nich so magst
20:14 Okoratu: like das ding faeng an und bei 00:16:146 (2,3) - frag ich mich warum das so sein muss
20:15 Okoratu: dann is da noch 00:24:306 (3,4) - was ich irgendwie random finde
20:16 Desperate-kun: hmmm
20:16 Desperate-kun: hab ich das echt nur einmal gemacht ja? xD
20:16 Desperate-kun: sollte ich vielleicht ändern
20:16 Desperate-kun: und 00:15:666 (1,2,3) -
20:16 Desperate-kun: naja ich finde es spielt sich gut so o:
20:16 Desperate-kun: ist halt nicht der standard flow
20:17 Desperate-kun: aber (2) ist ein kurzer slider
20:17 Desperate-kun: da bewegt man sich eh fast grade drüber
20:17 Desperate-kun: wenn nicht sogar slider leniency krams
20:17 Okoratu: mir gehts eher um 00:16:626 (3) -
20:17 Okoratu: und wie ich das besser faende wenn's gespiegelt waer oder so
20:18 Desperate-kun: ich weiß
20:18 Desperate-kun: 00:16:146 (2,3) -
20:18 Desperate-kun: das hier ist ein ungewöhnlicher übergang
20:18 Desperate-kun: aber dadurch dass (2) spielerisch gesehen keine kurve hat finde ich es gut
20:18 Desperate-kun: zu spielen
20:18 Desperate-kun: ich spiele persönlich (2) wie eine hold note
20:19 Okoratu: und ich follow sliderpath weil der song so langsam is
20:19 Desperate-kun: hmm
20:19 Desperate-kun: naja w/e
20:19 Desperate-kun: danke für die meinungen
20:19 Desperate-kun: ich ändere das mit dem 3/4 slider
20:20 Okoratu: 00:37:266 (3) - sachen wie das wuerd ich halt als sliderend irgendwie besser finden zumindest weil die anderen circles da so toll auf vocal fallen und auf 3 is keiner oder so
20:22 Desperate-kun: hmm ich hab ewig überleg
20:22 Desperate-kun: ob ich da vocals followe oder nicht
20:22 Desperate-kun: für den pattern
20:22 Desperate-kun: joa vielleicht mach ich einfach nen slider hin
20:24 Desperate-kun: fixed.
20:24 Okoratu: 01:08:226 (2) - 67|379 ? sieht erheblich besser aus imo xd
20:24 Desperate-kun: wat
20:24 Desperate-kun: lol dat 1 grid
20:25 Desperate-kun: ja okay... fixed xD
20:25 Okoratu: sorry mit custom stack hab ich so meine eigenen macken
20:25 Okoratu: LOL
20:25 Desperate-kun: xD kk
20:27 Okoratu: 02:04:626 (4,1) - fand ich etwas zu nah beieinander, wenn man 4 als dropoff spielt is man sofort bei 1 asdasd
20:27 Desperate-kun: also, quasi schlägst du vor, (1) weiter nach oben zu setzen?
20:28 Desperate-kun: fixed!
20:28 Okoratu: [http://puu.sh/jYL2M/3ce64b97a0.jpg halt ne art placement was eher vorschlaegt 4 etwas zu folgen]
20:29 Desperate-kun: fixed, habs ein wenig verschoben
20:30 Desperate-kun: etwas weiter nach oben rechts
20:30 Desperate-kun: aber nicht so weit wie auf dem screenshot
20:30 Desperate-kun: mehr nach oben als nach rechts
20:30 Okoratu: kk ich glaub das war alles
20:30 Desperate-kun: alles klar, danke <3
20:30 Desperate-kun: vergiss nicht im forum zu posten
20:31 Okoratu: ich sollte noch mir die normal ma anschauen und gucken ob ich das bubb lol
20:31 Desperate-kun: oh <3
20:31 Desperate-kun: das wäre cool
20:31 Desperate-kun: weil Mao grade auch sein set bubbled hat
20:32 Desperate-kun: die Advanced ist wohl perfekt oder wat? ><
20:32 Okoratu: die hab ich mir gestern angeschaut und wusste nich was ich da sagen will also halt ich da den mund
20:32 Desperate-kun: hmm kk
20:33 Okoratu: oh von der normal sind die screenshots das jumps ok sind in normals
20:33 Desperate-kun: ja
20:33 Okoratu: ich bin sowieso der ansicht wir babysitten spieler schon viel zu viel
20:33 Desperate-kun: ja.
20:33 Desperate-kun: ich bin in letzter zeit eher für Easy+ / Normal+ / Hard+ spreads
20:34 Okoratu: da seid ihr aber teilweise auch mitverantwortlich
20:34 Okoratu: xddd
20:34 Desperate-kun: bzw Normal / Advanced /Hard
20:34 Desperate-kun: das gute an Easy+ / Normal+ / Hard+ ist
20:34 Desperate-kun: man kann in Easy kreativer sein, weil man ein bisschen 1/2 einbauen kann wo nötig
20:34 Desperate-kun: und muss nicht alles simplifien mit 1/1
20:34 Okoratu: deus ex machina hat Normal Standard Advanced Hard weil wir die diffs einfach immer wieder umbenannt haben XDDD
20:34 Desperate-kun: in Normal kann man spaced 1/2 benutzen
20:34 Desperate-kun: wodurch es aufgeräumter wird
20:35 Desperate-kun: (die standardmäßige Normal ist irgendwie die einzige diff wo sich alles berührt)
20:35 Desperate-kun: und bei Hard+ kann man streams etc und jumps einführen
20:35 Desperate-kun: das ist abwechslungsreicher und strukturierter als der "standard" ENH spread
20:35 Desperate-kun: aber die Sache ist halt die, newbies haben probleme mit modernen Easy diffs
20:36 Desperate-kun: die meisten Spieler spielen Easy so bis zum 80. / 100. play
20:36 Desperate-kun: und wechseln dann zu Normal
20:36 Okoratu: ich mach quasi ne normal fuer doofe, ne normal in der sich 1/2 beruehrt, ne normal in der sich 1/2 nich beruehrt und jumps in hard xd
20:36 Desperate-kun: aber wenn da die ersten 30 plays fails sind, dann ist das kein Erfolgserlebnis
20:36 Desperate-kun: es ist bei Spielen immer so, vorallem am Anfang:
20:36 Desperate-kun: es muss schwer aussehen aber leicht sein
20:36 Desperate-kun: dann ist es ein Erfolgserlebnis
20:37 Desperate-kun: und bei aktuellen Easys ist das genaue Gegenteil der Fall
20:37 Okoratu: ich kann keine easies mappen
20:37 Okoratu: idk
20:37 Desperate-kun: wenn man Spieler testen lässt etc dann findet man raus dass hohe SV und Spacing sich gut spielen für newbies
20:37 Okoratu: die einzige easy die auch easy heisst is auf Furuki ashiki
20:37 Desperate-kun: weil dann die Sachen mehr auseinander sind
20:37 Desperate-kun: und strukturierter
20:37 Desperate-kun: einfacher zu lesen
20:37 Okoratu: und das is zusammengequetscht weil das ganze set low sv is XDD
20:38 Desperate-kun: aber die BNs regen sich über 1,2 SV oder so in Easy auf.
20:38 Desperate-kun: genauso wie kleine jumps etc
20:38 Desperate-kun: newbies messen ja nicht mit dem lineal nach
20:38 Desperate-kun: und readen auch eigentlich nicht danach. sie spielen komplett nach intuition
20:38 Desperate-kun: sie können sich ja garnicht auf das spacing konzentrieren
20:39 Desperate-kun: was allerdings nicht okay ist für Easys sind komische polarity issues mit circlen danach
20:39 Okoratu: advanced spielt sich eher wie ne normal fuer leute die mit normals nich mehr klar kommen
20:39 Desperate-kun: und komplizierte slidershapes / overlaps
20:39 Desperate-kun: lol
20:44 Okoratu: 00:32:946 (4,5) - find ich irgendwie von der polarity her seltsam idk
20:45 Desperate-kun: hmmm das folgt den vocals D:
20:45 Okoratu: ich weiss
20:45 Desperate-kun: polarity hat doch eher was mit lücken zu tun
20:45 Desperate-kun: ich weiß nicht
20:45 Desperate-kun: find das da intuitiv D:
20:47 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/jYMf5/5ba0654bfd.jpg
20:48 Okoratu: find ich persoenlich intuitiver aber w/e
20:48 Desperate-kun: hmm ich hätte das hier 00:33:906 - schon gerne clickable
20:48 Okoratu: dann behalt deinen rhythm loool
20:49 Desperate-kun: okay :3
20:49 Okoratu: ja irgendwie
20:49 Okoratu: is da nix nennenswertes zu zu sagen
20:51 Okoratu: du fauler copypasta typ
20:51 Desperate-kun: xD
20:51 Desperate-kun: jaaaa...
20:51 Okoratu: is das einzig nennenswerte was mir zu der diff einfaellt
20:51 Desperate-kun: naja es ist ne Normal
20:51 Desperate-kun: und das Lied wiederholt sich :C
20:55 Okoratu: zzz
20:55 Okoratu: ich hab nen lied was sich 50% looped und Krfawy hat auf seiner easy einfach die haelfte der map copypasted
20:55 Desperate-kun: joa
20:55 Okoratu: dann hab ich mich darueber etwas aufgeregt weil er hat nen monat fuer 80 objects gebraucht die er dann copy paste rotated
20:55 Okoratu: >effort<
20:56 Desperate-kun: copypaste ist nicht unbedingt etwas schlechtes, vorallem nicht für newbies
20:56 Okoratu: dude er hat nen monat fuer 80 objects gebraucht
20:56 Okoratu: XDDD
20:56 Desperate-kun: jaaa gut xD
20:57 Okoratu: und dann durfte ich noch ne normal mappen weil seine easy fuer dumbos is
20:57 Okoratu: also outsourcing erfolg auf ganzer linie
20:57 Desperate-kun: lol
20:58 Okoratu: was auch immer mir faellt nix mehr ein ich bubble das jetzt XDD
20:58 Desperate-kun: ly <3
20:59 Okoratu: Bakari pls
21:00 Okoratu: wenn er das fuer metadata dq'd hol ich lanturn um zu protestieren
21:00 Okoratu: xddd
21:00 Desperate-kun: er dqd das nicht
21:00 Desperate-kun: er hat nur empfohlen die andere metadata zu nutzen
21:00 Desperate-kun: aber das is quatsch
21:00 Desperate-kun: xD
21:01 Okoratu: das is mir so egal solange es mehrere offizielle sources gibt und nicht japanese ist ist es leuten komplett egal
21:02 Desperate-kun: jop
20:03 Desperate-kun: bub please
20:03 Desperate-kun: ;------------------------;
20:03 Desperate-kun: jk xD
20:03 Okoratu: hab ich mir gestern angeschaut
20:03 Desperate-kun: was echt? wieso das o:
20:03 Okoratu: weil ich wissen wollte ob ich das wohl einfach bubblen wuerd
20:04 Desperate-kun: und, würdest du nicht? xD
20:04 Okoratu: die hard is irgendwie seltsam idk bleib ich von weg
20:04 Desperate-kun: hmm okay :c
20:04 Desperate-kun: joa is halt .. kp
20:05 Desperate-kun: ich mag sie aber
20:05 Desperate-kun: aber ja sie ist etwas außergewöhnlich xD
20:05 Okoratu: und ich weiss nich was ich davon halten soll
20:05 Desperate-kun: was findest du denn schlecht o:
20:05 Okoratu: ich hab hab die halt 3 mal gespielt und konnte mir keine meinung bilden und dann hab ich mir gesagt hm dann lass ich's
20:05 Desperate-kun: hmm k
20:06 Okoratu: 2 diff app is doch erlaubt oder
20:06 Desperate-kun: mainstream viech :*
20:06 Desperate-kun: ja
20:12 Okoratu: im vergleich zur advanced is die halt schon ziemlich jump... lastig
20:12 Okoratu: lol
20:12 Desperate-kun: joa schon
20:13 Okoratu: und ich komm stellenweise auf das flow konzept nich klar
20:13 Desperate-kun: magst du Sieg's Maps generell nicht?
20:13 Okoratu: kA ich hab kaum sieg maps
20:14 *Desperate-kun is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/545933 Rammstein - Los]
20:14 Desperate-kun: <3
20:14 Desperate-kun: naja der flow und die jumps sind intentional
20:14 Desperate-kun: aber schon okay wenn dus nich so magst
20:14 Okoratu: like das ding faeng an und bei 00:16:146 (2,3) - frag ich mich warum das so sein muss
20:15 Okoratu: dann is da noch 00:24:306 (3,4) - was ich irgendwie random finde
20:16 Desperate-kun: hmmm
20:16 Desperate-kun: hab ich das echt nur einmal gemacht ja? xD
20:16 Desperate-kun: sollte ich vielleicht ändern
20:16 Desperate-kun: und 00:15:666 (1,2,3) -
20:16 Desperate-kun: naja ich finde es spielt sich gut so o:
20:16 Desperate-kun: ist halt nicht der standard flow
20:17 Desperate-kun: aber (2) ist ein kurzer slider
20:17 Desperate-kun: da bewegt man sich eh fast grade drüber
20:17 Desperate-kun: wenn nicht sogar slider leniency krams
20:17 Okoratu: mir gehts eher um 00:16:626 (3) -
20:17 Okoratu: und wie ich das besser faende wenn's gespiegelt waer oder so
20:18 Desperate-kun: ich weiß
20:18 Desperate-kun: 00:16:146 (2,3) -
20:18 Desperate-kun: das hier ist ein ungewöhnlicher übergang
20:18 Desperate-kun: aber dadurch dass (2) spielerisch gesehen keine kurve hat finde ich es gut
20:18 Desperate-kun: zu spielen
20:18 Desperate-kun: ich spiele persönlich (2) wie eine hold note
20:19 Okoratu: und ich follow sliderpath weil der song so langsam is
20:19 Desperate-kun: hmm
20:19 Desperate-kun: naja w/e
20:19 Desperate-kun: danke für die meinungen
20:19 Desperate-kun: ich ändere das mit dem 3/4 slider
20:20 Okoratu: 00:37:266 (3) - sachen wie das wuerd ich halt als sliderend irgendwie besser finden zumindest weil die anderen circles da so toll auf vocal fallen und auf 3 is keiner oder so
20:22 Desperate-kun: hmm ich hab ewig überleg
20:22 Desperate-kun: ob ich da vocals followe oder nicht
20:22 Desperate-kun: für den pattern
20:22 Desperate-kun: joa vielleicht mach ich einfach nen slider hin
20:24 Desperate-kun: fixed.
20:24 Okoratu: 01:08:226 (2) - 67|379 ? sieht erheblich besser aus imo xd
20:24 Desperate-kun: wat
20:24 Desperate-kun: lol dat 1 grid
20:25 Desperate-kun: ja okay... fixed xD
20:25 Okoratu: sorry mit custom stack hab ich so meine eigenen macken
20:25 Okoratu: LOL
20:25 Desperate-kun: xD kk
20:27 Okoratu: 02:04:626 (4,1) - fand ich etwas zu nah beieinander, wenn man 4 als dropoff spielt is man sofort bei 1 asdasd
20:27 Desperate-kun: also, quasi schlägst du vor, (1) weiter nach oben zu setzen?
20:28 Desperate-kun: fixed!
20:28 Okoratu: [http://puu.sh/jYL2M/3ce64b97a0.jpg halt ne art placement was eher vorschlaegt 4 etwas zu folgen]
20:29 Desperate-kun: fixed, habs ein wenig verschoben
20:30 Desperate-kun: etwas weiter nach oben rechts
20:30 Desperate-kun: aber nicht so weit wie auf dem screenshot
20:30 Desperate-kun: mehr nach oben als nach rechts
20:30 Okoratu: kk ich glaub das war alles
20:30 Desperate-kun: alles klar, danke <3
20:30 Desperate-kun: vergiss nicht im forum zu posten
20:31 Okoratu: ich sollte noch mir die normal ma anschauen und gucken ob ich das bubb lol
20:31 Desperate-kun: oh <3
20:31 Desperate-kun: das wäre cool
20:31 Desperate-kun: weil Mao grade auch sein set bubbled hat
20:32 Desperate-kun: die Advanced ist wohl perfekt oder wat? ><
20:32 Okoratu: die hab ich mir gestern angeschaut und wusste nich was ich da sagen will also halt ich da den mund
20:32 Desperate-kun: hmm kk
20:33 Okoratu: oh von der normal sind die screenshots das jumps ok sind in normals
20:33 Desperate-kun: ja
20:33 Okoratu: ich bin sowieso der ansicht wir babysitten spieler schon viel zu viel
20:33 Desperate-kun: ja.
20:33 Desperate-kun: ich bin in letzter zeit eher für Easy+ / Normal+ / Hard+ spreads
20:34 Okoratu: da seid ihr aber teilweise auch mitverantwortlich
20:34 Okoratu: xddd
20:34 Desperate-kun: bzw Normal / Advanced /Hard
20:34 Desperate-kun: das gute an Easy+ / Normal+ / Hard+ ist
20:34 Desperate-kun: man kann in Easy kreativer sein, weil man ein bisschen 1/2 einbauen kann wo nötig
20:34 Desperate-kun: und muss nicht alles simplifien mit 1/1
20:34 Okoratu: deus ex machina hat Normal Standard Advanced Hard weil wir die diffs einfach immer wieder umbenannt haben XDDD
20:34 Desperate-kun: in Normal kann man spaced 1/2 benutzen
20:34 Desperate-kun: wodurch es aufgeräumter wird
20:35 Desperate-kun: (die standardmäßige Normal ist irgendwie die einzige diff wo sich alles berührt)
20:35 Desperate-kun: und bei Hard+ kann man streams etc und jumps einführen
20:35 Desperate-kun: das ist abwechslungsreicher und strukturierter als der "standard" ENH spread
20:35 Desperate-kun: aber die Sache ist halt die, newbies haben probleme mit modernen Easy diffs
20:36 Desperate-kun: die meisten Spieler spielen Easy so bis zum 80. / 100. play
20:36 Desperate-kun: und wechseln dann zu Normal
20:36 Okoratu: ich mach quasi ne normal fuer doofe, ne normal in der sich 1/2 beruehrt, ne normal in der sich 1/2 nich beruehrt und jumps in hard xd
20:36 Desperate-kun: aber wenn da die ersten 30 plays fails sind, dann ist das kein Erfolgserlebnis
20:36 Desperate-kun: es ist bei Spielen immer so, vorallem am Anfang:
20:36 Desperate-kun: es muss schwer aussehen aber leicht sein
20:36 Desperate-kun: dann ist es ein Erfolgserlebnis
20:37 Desperate-kun: und bei aktuellen Easys ist das genaue Gegenteil der Fall
20:37 Okoratu: ich kann keine easies mappen
20:37 Okoratu: idk
20:37 Desperate-kun: wenn man Spieler testen lässt etc dann findet man raus dass hohe SV und Spacing sich gut spielen für newbies
20:37 Okoratu: die einzige easy die auch easy heisst is auf Furuki ashiki
20:37 Desperate-kun: weil dann die Sachen mehr auseinander sind
20:37 Desperate-kun: und strukturierter
20:37 Desperate-kun: einfacher zu lesen
20:37 Okoratu: und das is zusammengequetscht weil das ganze set low sv is XDD
20:38 Desperate-kun: aber die BNs regen sich über 1,2 SV oder so in Easy auf.
20:38 Desperate-kun: genauso wie kleine jumps etc
20:38 Desperate-kun: newbies messen ja nicht mit dem lineal nach
20:38 Desperate-kun: und readen auch eigentlich nicht danach. sie spielen komplett nach intuition
20:38 Desperate-kun: sie können sich ja garnicht auf das spacing konzentrieren
20:39 Desperate-kun: was allerdings nicht okay ist für Easys sind komische polarity issues mit circlen danach
20:39 Okoratu: advanced spielt sich eher wie ne normal fuer leute die mit normals nich mehr klar kommen
20:39 Desperate-kun: und komplizierte slidershapes / overlaps
20:39 Desperate-kun: lol
20:44 Okoratu: 00:32:946 (4,5) - find ich irgendwie von der polarity her seltsam idk
20:45 Desperate-kun: hmmm das folgt den vocals D:
20:45 Okoratu: ich weiss
20:45 Desperate-kun: polarity hat doch eher was mit lücken zu tun
20:45 Desperate-kun: ich weiß nicht
20:45 Desperate-kun: find das da intuitiv D:
20:47 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/jYMf5/5ba0654bfd.jpg
20:48 Okoratu: find ich persoenlich intuitiver aber w/e
20:48 Desperate-kun: hmm ich hätte das hier 00:33:906 - schon gerne clickable
20:48 Okoratu: dann behalt deinen rhythm loool
20:49 Desperate-kun: okay :3
20:49 Okoratu: ja irgendwie
20:49 Okoratu: is da nix nennenswertes zu zu sagen
20:51 Okoratu: du fauler copypasta typ
20:51 Desperate-kun: xD
20:51 Desperate-kun: jaaaa...
20:51 Okoratu: is das einzig nennenswerte was mir zu der diff einfaellt
20:51 Desperate-kun: naja es ist ne Normal
20:51 Desperate-kun: und das Lied wiederholt sich :C
20:55 Okoratu: zzz
20:55 Okoratu: ich hab nen lied was sich 50% looped und Krfawy hat auf seiner easy einfach die haelfte der map copypasted
20:55 Desperate-kun: joa
20:55 Okoratu: dann hab ich mich darueber etwas aufgeregt weil er hat nen monat fuer 80 objects gebraucht die er dann copy paste rotated
20:55 Okoratu: >effort<
20:56 Desperate-kun: copypaste ist nicht unbedingt etwas schlechtes, vorallem nicht für newbies
20:56 Okoratu: dude er hat nen monat fuer 80 objects gebraucht
20:56 Okoratu: XDDD
20:56 Desperate-kun: jaaa gut xD
20:57 Okoratu: und dann durfte ich noch ne normal mappen weil seine easy fuer dumbos is
20:57 Okoratu: also outsourcing erfolg auf ganzer linie
20:57 Desperate-kun: lol
20:58 Okoratu: was auch immer mir faellt nix mehr ein ich bubble das jetzt XDD
20:58 Desperate-kun: ly <3
20:59 Okoratu: Bakari pls
21:00 Okoratu: wenn er das fuer metadata dq'd hol ich lanturn um zu protestieren
21:00 Okoratu: xddd
21:00 Desperate-kun: er dqd das nicht
21:00 Desperate-kun: er hat nur empfohlen die andere metadata zu nutzen
21:00 Desperate-kun: aber das is quatsch
21:00 Desperate-kun: xD
21:01 Okoratu: das is mir so egal solange es mehrere offizielle sources gibt und nicht japanese ist ist es leuten komplett egal
21:02 Desperate-kun: jop
wie koennt ich vergessen zu bubblen ohne zu posten l0l
Topic Starter
Thank you a lot! >w<~
yay <3
Mao wrote:
yay <3
Hi, a mod requested by Sieg. Bubble pop for spacing inconsistencies in the lowest difficulty in some patterns which provide terrible flow and they are not nice to play and for sure would be considered as unrankable stuff which would cause a DQ.
Normal
Normal
- 00:15:666 (1,2) - A suggestion from me, but I think that would play nicer if that would be transformed into a slider because it plays a bit troll-like, like I can't figure when the vocals start so it would be easier to follow it with a slider.
- 01:16:386 (4,1) - Spacing please
- 01:18:306 (2,3) - Spacing please
- 01:37:506 (2,3,4) - 01:41:346 (2,3,4,5) - Dense rhythm if you ask me and rather random comparing with the pattern used 01:37:746 (3,4) - here where you left 01:37:986 - such significant moment, exactly the same one like that I've just highlighted.
- 02:13:986 (4,1) - Spacing please
- 02:21:666 (4,1) - Spacing please
- 02:23:586 (2,3) - Spacing please
- 02:29:346 (4,1) - Spacing please
- 02:31:506 (2,3) - Suddenly you reduced spacing when it's still the chours going on whilst you do not reduce spacing in such song sections.
- 02:37:026 (4,1) - Spacing please
- 02:38:946 (2,3) - Spacing please
- 02:43:506 (1,1,1,1) - In my opinion you would use a bit higher volume (for example 15%) so the beginners aren't trolled too much. You know, silent sliderends are rather for more experienced players if you ask me.
- 01:09:426 (1,2) - Can't you blanket them or something? They look ugly. :C
- A suggestion from me, but AR7.5 seems a bit high. Consider using AR7, please.
the "spacing please" things are intentional and should not be changed... like that's the point of them, Desperate confirmed through multiple testplays that they're fine to play even by people who just started playing and the idea behind them is creative
the spacing decrease is mostly of visual nature as noone will notice the distance from sliderend to sliderhead being off (while i've been informed by desp that that was unintentional i don't think it should be bolded xd)
and lastly i don't want to sit through hunting qualify slots with 3 maps at the same time so either let me rebubble or search for another bn because getting to this is going to be time consuming af and my IRL won't be less busy anytime soon
my 2 cents
the spacing decrease is mostly of visual nature as noone will notice the distance from sliderend to sliderhead being off (while i've been informed by desp that that was unintentional i don't think it should be bolded xd)
and lastly i don't want to sit through hunting qualify slots with 3 maps at the same time so either let me rebubble or search for another bn because getting to this is going to be time consuming af and my IRL won't be less busy anytime soon
my 2 cents
Topic Starter
About the Spacings in Normal. These are, as you might have guessed since they are consistently used, all intentional. I've had testplays and people could play them just fine, for two reasons.Krfawy wrote:
Hi, a mod requested by Sieg. Bubble pop for spacing inconsistencies in the lowest difficulty in some patterns which provide terrible flow and they are not nice to play and for sure would be considered as unrankable stuff which would cause a DQ.
NormalCollab Hard
- 00:15:666 (1,2) - A suggestion from me, but I think that would play nicer if that would be transformed into a slider because it plays a bit troll-like, like I can't figure when the vocals start so it would be easier to follow it with a slider. There is a sound on every white tick during the intro, which creates a metronome. So yeah, I don't think it's hard to hit a circle at the beginning of the map. I'd like to keep this rhythm as-is, because there are already many sliders around the beginning.
- 01:37:506 (2,3,4) - 01:41:346 (2,3,4,5) - Dense rhythm if you ask me and rather random comparing with the pattern used 01:37:746 (3,4) - here where you left 01:37:986 - such significant moment, exactly the same one like that I've just highlighted. You are right, fixed! I originally did this to not use the same rhythm twice in a row, but I agree that it is a bit too dense.
- 02:31:506 (2,3) - Suddenly you reduced spacing when it's still the chours going on whilst you do not reduce spacing in such song sections. Woops, that is a mistake, fixed.
- 02:43:506 (1,1,1,1) - In my opinion you would use a bit higher volume (for example 15%) so the beginners aren't trolled too much. You know, silent sliderends are rather for more experienced players if you ask me. Hmm I would agree with this, but there is soooo much time after those sliders where nothing happens (the next objects are not even visible) so yeah, even if the newbies will hold the key longer it won't confuse them
Call me for a rebubble when the spacing issues are fixed!
- A suggestion from me, but AR7.5 seems a bit high. Consider using AR7, please. Nah, a higher AR complements the jumpy nature of this beatmap well.
First of all, the jumps are not big enough so they would read like a 3/2-gap or something.
Secondly, they are spaced with the head of the previous slider, not the tail: http://puu.sh/k21MC/c944fdac62.jpg
I found these jumps to be a nice gimmick to introduce in a low-BPM Normal, so that's what I did, and following logic and testplays from newbies, they are not a problem for the players of this difficulty level either.
I updated the map, but I am not fixing the "Spacing Issues".
Fixed!
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Topic Starter
Updated! I also talked to Krfawy ingame. We came to the conclusion that he won't rebubble this mapset as he doesn't agree with the spacings in Normal, but oko is free to rebubble. So now I'm waiting >w<~
spacing please
Was about to mod this now but you already got a bubble so yeah... let me know if you still want one
Do whatever you want to jon dont let that thinking.gif stop you
Sure, I'll mod it anyway, take what you want from it!
[Collab Hard]
[Collab Hard]
- 00:37:506 (3) - If you want to, you could move this a bit further from 00:37:026 (2) - so the spacing is more equal visually. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3657320
- 01:07:506 (1,2) - I know this is intentionally done but in my opinion, it'd look better if it was perfectly stacked. Up to you, of course.
- 01:29:346 (2,3) - This is really small, but since your difficulty has been stacking objects, you could stack that aswell.
- 01:44:706 (2) - Slider could be a little more symmetrical, I guess.
- 02:07:026 (5) - The finish is really loud on this one, especially when the music doesn't have a crash in it. If anything, you could try to find a custom hitsound just for that. Might be just me, though. (Same would apply to every difficulty)
- 01:52:386 (2) - and 02:39:666 (1) - look really awkward in my opinion, especially because you've been using slider shapes that blanket objects properly. If anything, you could use the more general way to make wave sliders. That way, the visuals would get improved a little and the blankets would be much better. http://puu.sh/k6rR9/e88eb2ea4e.jpg
- 02:07:026 (5) - and 02:41:586 (4) - Could be NC'd if you want to because stanzas and all the good stuff.
- 02:45:426 - I like the way a finish sounds there, you could try that instead of muting the slider end completely. Same would apply to every slider except the last one.
- 00:29:826 (2) - If you want to, blanket could be improved a little.
- 01:01:746 - The sound could be emphasized with a note, and you could start the spinner 1/2 or 1/4 later instead. (apply it to similar cases too!)
- 01:20:946 - I get that you wanted some kind of a transition to the other part by making a pause, but still, there are beats that could be mapped. Feels kind of awkward now. :f
- 02:07:026 (1) - Spinner could be consistent with the ending of it. I feel like the gap wouldn't be too small to the next object due to the BPM being so low, but this works too so I don't really mind. You could make the spinner's end a little less noisy if you want to keep your current one, though.
Topic Starter
Thank you very much! Waiting for Mao-chan~ ´^`Asphyxia wrote:
Sure, I'll mod it anyway, take what you want from it!
[Collab Hard][Normal]
- 00:37:506 (3) - If you want to, you could move this a bit further from 00:37:026 (2) - so the spacing is more equal visually. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3657320 Nah, I prefer the current pattern, I think it looks more neat and the slider is more curved
- 01:07:506 (1,2) - I know this is intentionally done but in my opinion, it'd look better if it was perfectly stacked. Up to you, of course. Hmm I think manual stack is better
- 01:29:346 (2,3) - This is really small, but since your difficulty has been stacking objects, you could stack that aswell. Not really noticeable ingame, tbh I will rather keep my flow and pattern as it is
- 01:44:706 (2) - Slider could be a little more symmetrical, I guess. You are right, fixed!
- 02:07:026 (5) - The finish is really loud on this one, especially when the music doesn't have a crash in it. If anything, you could try to find a custom hitsound just for that. Might be just me, though. (Same would apply to every difficulty) Replaced with whistles!
- 01:52:386 (2) - and 02:39:666 (1) - look really awkward in my opinion, especially because you've been using slider shapes that blanket objects properly. If anything, you could use the more general way to make wave sliders. That way, the visuals would get improved a little and the blankets would be much better. http://puu.sh/k6rR9/e88eb2ea4e.jpg Nah I know Sieg prefers them like this, I think they are cool
- 02:07:026 (5) - and 02:41:586 (4) - Could be NC'd if you want to because stanzas and all the good stuff. I dislike single note combos sometimes, I don't think they fit this map as it is generally not so NC-heavy
- 02:45:426 - I like the way a finish sounds there, you could try that instead of muting the slider end completely. Same would apply to every slider except the last one. Nice suggestion, applied to all diffs!
Solid set! Just some suggestions so feel free to deny the suggestions with a reason.
- 01:01:746 - The sound could be emphasized with a note, and you could start the spinner 1/2 or 1/4 later instead. (apply it to similar cases too!) Nah I don't think that's a good idea for the easiest diff, I will keep it as it is
- 01:20:946 - I get that you wanted some kind of a transition to the other part by making a pause, but still, there are beats that could be mapped. Feels kind of awkward now. :f I like giving some kind of break here, I think it feels alright
- 02:07:026 (1) - Spinner could be consistent with the ending of it. I feel like the gap wouldn't be too small to the next object due to the BPM being so low, but this works too so I don't really mind. You could make the spinner's end a little less noisy if you want to keep your current one, though. For this AR and general difficulty level, it would be too low of a gap. I dislike it when the following objects are already clearly visible during the spinner honestly :c I gave lower volume to the ends though! :3
I would actually like to keep this pattern for the sake of rotation and the triangle. I tried to change the blanket but the curves just look to overdone imo
Weebs.Desperate-kun wrote:
Mao-chan~ ´^`
Topic Starter
Ohhhh the winterrrr
I'm waiting just for youuuu
It's raiiiining outside
My heart is turning blueeee
I'm waiting just for youuuu
It's raiiiining outside
My heart is turning blueeee
Hello! As Sieg requested
Mao's Advanced
- 01:36:306(1)- Whistle on sliderbody on purpose?Because on 01:20:946(1)- there's the same sound (I'm reffering at music BG) and you didn't used whistle on sliderbody there so I suggest to remove the whistle from this sliderbody aswell
Collab Hard
- 01:07:506 (1,2)- Unstacking both slider would give more sense to stronger beats from the music
- 01:40:866(2)- Finish on head on purpose? If yes,I suggest to remove it
- 01:44:706(2)- I don't think you need finish here since on other points like 00:39:246(2)- for example you didn'r used finish so I suggest to delete the finish from this slider's head and adding an finish on previous slider's head
- 02:03:666(2)- Seems to be finish added on purpose as I can see.I suggest to remove it
Topic Starter
Thanks a lot! Just waiting for Mao now :3ByBy13 wrote:
Hello! As Sieg requested
A pretty polished map! By the way we fixed the issues from Normal diff via IRC.Call me back!
- 01:07:506 (1,2)- Unstacking both slider would give more sense to stronger beats from the music Nah, I think this pattern is fine as a variation and fits the music well
- 01:40:866(2)- Finish on head on purpose? If yes,I suggest to remove it Removed
- 01:44:706(2)- I don't think you need finish here since on other points like 00:39:246(2)- for example you didn'r used finish so I suggest to delete the finish from this slider's head and adding an finish on previous slider's head Removed
- 02:03:666(2)- Seems to be finish added on purpose as I can see.I suggest to remove it It is used to emphasize this rhythm variation here
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Topic Starter
Updated!
yay
osu! needs more Marina And The Diamonds \w/
Qualified!
Qualified!
Topic Starter
Thank you <3
Gratz.
Finally <3
More Marina maps <3 (How to be a heartbreaker when ;_; )
Crimmi wrote:
Gratz.
Soon, I just need to get Blue ranked.UnderminE wrote:
More Marina maps <3 (How to be a heartbreaker when ;_; )
yeah.. I'm not posting in your Disqus comments.
Congrats on the rank o/
Congrats on the rank o/