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MBomb
Honestly, the decision between slaini and Jess is kinda a difficult one, my votes have been because of PoE this whole game though...
Hika
I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
sLaiNi

Hika wrote:

I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
Let's say, at this moment I am definitely fine with a Jess lynch if she does not finally start talking.

For this game thought, I don't like the statement, that "lynching a town who is not helping to win is not bad", because every misslynch is crucial for town in this mini setup without protective PR.
sLaiNi
To make it clear:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.


@Hika My biggest scumread ATM would be Jess and I have a very strong feeling that there's scum between MB and xiz, while I strongly tend to xiz.
Hika

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
^

@Jess, I'll give you a chance before I start thinking that you're 100% scum.
If you are a PR, reveal yourself and RC, and if not, at least give us some reads.
MBomb
wait shit just realised I won't be on for deadline. Last I'll be on is in like 7 hours and that's if I don't oversleep before college. I'll try to get on in the morning, and I'll place my vote on Jess, unless the posts after this persuade me otherwise.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Vote Count 1.04


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[0] sLaNi --
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[1] Xiz -- -[Jess]-
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, Gumica, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Hika
No, I don't think she'll say anything different. Meh. This is the most frustrating part about a game. Won't even call in a replacement ...
-[Jess]-
I am at school now,post later.
MBomb

-[Jess]- wrote:

I am at school now,post later.
...I've already stated I won't be around before deadline.

No one hammer until two hours before deadline if she hasn't posted by then.

Vote: Jess
MBomb
Oh btw I might use my phone data at college just to post one thing just before deadline but yeah I'm not gonna keep refreshing to see if Jess posts anything.
MBomb
Really, no posts…?

Kk I should hopefully be on 20 minutes before deadline, idk though.
Gumica
I might not be here later either. I haven't sleept for the last 48 hours. I'm killed. So just in case:
Vote: Xiz
-[Jess]-
Give me some times, I have back to school.
Gumica
Well you have 12 hours left
-[Jess]-

Hika wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
^

@Jess, I'll give you a chance before I start thinking that you're 100% scum.
If you are a PR, reveal yourself and RC, and if not, at least give us some reads.
Done

So first at all,I am a VT.Second here is my read:

(Scum)sLaiNi<Xiz<Gumi<Hika<MB(town)
Gumica
I'm assuming your reasons for these reads, especially scum ones are over the same reasons as other people mentioned?

You're voting Xiz, yet your biggest scumread is sLaiNi?

Where is SNB on your list?
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Well you have 12 hours left
Isn't deadline in 20 minutes?
-[Jess]-

Gumica wrote:

I'm assuming your reasons for these reads, especially scum ones are over the same reasons as other people mentioned?

You're voting Xiz, yet your biggest scumread is sLaiNi?

Where is SNB on your list?
I am fixing now ;w;
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Where is SNB on your list?
Also yeah, Jess, why did you not include SNB?
Gumica
ummm

Deadline is September 25 at 7:30PM EST (UTC-4)
7:30PM EST (1:30AM Central Europe, or 0:30AM for you in UK)
-[Jess]-

-[Jess]- wrote:

So first at all,I am a VT.Second here is my read:

(Scum)sLaiNi<Xiz<Gumi<Hika<MB(town)
omg i forgot SNB. He is null

LoLz I just post the first part,here is the explain,

sLaiNi - I can't explain.Just look at his posts,He is very scummy.And he just like to push me to lynch(because I am the most easiest lynch).

Xiz - he just like a newbie scum,Pushing a easy mislynch .

Gumi - gut feeling,also I am a she

SNB - also gut feeling

Hika - She read my as town,So i will trusting she is town

MB - no time to explain.
unvote
vote:sLaiNi

That it.

If I die,please lynch Xiz,thanks.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

ummm

Deadline is September 25 at 7:30PM EST (UTC-4)
7:30PM EST (1:30AM Central Europe, or 0:30AM for you in UK)
Oh, title confused me because I'd expect it to be 19:30 if it was pm ok I will be around for deadline then. No one hammer for another 3 hours until I get home.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[1] Xiz -- Gumica
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Gumica

Ace Timing wrote:

Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3
Topic Starter
Ace Timing

Gumica wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3
[insert sarcastic comment here]
Gumica
So she is. Good to know
Gumica
Considering she just roleclaimed VT and is now apparently a doublevoter, lel....

:^)
sLaiNi
Wut, was it a mod mistake or is she really DV, thought this is an open game
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
what error?

Ace Timing wrote:

[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
There is no error. All roles are in the Sample PMs.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3
wut
MBomb
Oh also @mod I voted Jess, but you missed me out on the vote count.
-[Jess]-
Lolz

I am NOT a dv orz
Gumica
you know, just the fact that he has a vote both on sLaiNi and Xiz...
-[Jess]-

Gumica wrote:

you know, just the fact that he has a vote both on sLaiNi and Xiz...
囧rz
Mod fix it please
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

you know, just the fact that he has a vote both on sLaiNi and Xiz...
oh i didn't even see that lmao
Hika
It's just a mod error. It's open setup so just chill out my love bugs. :*
Gumica
Yeah well.. I wasn't trying to be mean =) I just put it in a sarcastic way, in a way which apparently wasn't taken lightly :D

Anyways, 7 hours or so remain.
imho Jess's post makes little to no difference to me, but the majority of you should've changed your votes now, the votes which were based on pressuring Jess.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Yeah well.. I wasn't trying to be mean =) I just put it in a sarcastic way, in a way which apparently wasn't taken lightly :D

Anyways, 7 hours or so remain.
imho Jess's post makes little to no difference to me, but the majority of you should've changed your votes now, the votes which were based on pressuring Jess.
As far as I know, no other people voted for that reason other than me, and I've already stated why I'm keeping my vote on her.
-[Jess]-
I will not around the deadline tho,I was still asleep.
Gumica
sLaiNi said that too.
And I'm pretty sure Xiz had the same kind of idea behind his vote, since he never said anything (but then again, he never really gave any propper explanation for any other of his votes..)
sLaiNi
@Mod, is it really meant to have 2 votes of Jess on 2 different persons?


Yeah I said that it was a pressure vote, but at some point I stated that it's a real vote now.
MBomb
Xiz, when you get here, firstly say your reason for voting Jess, and secondly, answer, will you be around just before deadline?
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

@Mod, is it really meant to have 2 votes of Jess on 2 different persons?


Yeah I said that it was a pressure vote, but at some point I stated that it's a real vote now.
As far as I can see, this is the only indication that your vote isn't just a pressure vote and even this isn't that strong.

sLaiNi wrote:

Hika wrote:

I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
Let's say, at this moment I am definitely fine with a Jess lynch if she does not finally start talking.

For this game thought, I don't like the statement, that "lynching a town who is not helping to win is not bad", because every misslynch is crucial for town in this mini setup without protective PR.
MBomb
Actually screw this, following my really strong gut feeling after reading through ISOs.

Unvote
Vote: SNB
MBomb
I will accept Jess as a second lynch if no one agrees with me on this, as I understand deadline is soon. But I'm pretty certain on this.
Hika
I'd still prefer Jess as a sacrificial lynch any day over SNB. I'd prefer to check him out later tbh.
MBomb
Oh and before anyone's like "Give reasons" I'm typing a textwall, give me like 15 minutes because I'm also eating dinner whilst I type.
MBomb
And unlike Jess I eat and type at the same time :^)
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

And unlike Jess I eat and type at the same time :^)
I see what you did there :D
MBomb

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I think it's a bit early to call this, but Xiz is scum. AFAIK he's only causing confusion or just otherwise sincerely playing bad.

The other one could be anyone.
All Xiz had said at this point is his points leading up to him thinking either Slaini or Jess are scum, which didn't seem to even be that confusing, and seemed like genuine scumhunting, at least in my eyes.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Gumica is town. treebomb seems to be building wishful conspiracies which is not exactly helpful.

Jess is playing bad like always so I'm assuming they're scum as always.
Firstly, Gumica had only made 4 posts at this point, 2 of which were joke posts. Secondly, assuming someone who always plays badly is scum because they're playing badly is stupid logic.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Considering voting Xiz for now.
Yet he never actually did, despite the fact this was the second time he hinted at the fact he thought Xiz was scum, and had no other scum reads that he even mentioned.

After this, it's all just "lurking, lurking, trying to make this post not look like a prod dodge, lurking".
MBomb
Less of a textwall than I thought it would be because of how few posts he actually has, and how little content the most recent from him have, he's mostly doing the thing that MOST PEOPLE SCUMREAD JESS FOR IN GAMES of going "Oh I'll post later" and then never actually posting.
MBomb
@Mod: Prod SNB please.
MBomb
Oh also the lack of counterwagon in response to jess is worrying.
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh also the lack of counterwagon in response to jess is worrying.
Lawl, there is an equal counterwagon.
Hika
I mean, I already tried to counter it , not by voting but by observation and crap.
Hika
I want to wait for Xiz first. If he doesn't show up, Jess goes first.
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh also the lack of counterwagon in response to jess is worrying.
Lawl, there is an equal counterwagon.
No there isn't. Jess was on 3 votes before I unvoted, everyone else was on 1 (Xiz was on 1 but Jess's vote was shown there because the mod messed up)
MBomb

Hika wrote:

I want to wait for Xiz first. If he doesn't show up, Jess goes first.
Wait why are we watiing for xiz, just his reason for voting Jess or is there something else (I do agree with this but for a different reason).
Gumica
Well, you don't need a counterwagon to express an opinion. Me and Hika have both expressed opposition to lyching Jess.

Anyways, yeah, I was actually thinking of SNB yesterday, since he said he'd post his thoughts on the recent posts, but he never did.
Gumica
By "we" in Xiz bandwagon you mainly mean just me, since i'm the only one on it;

- Irrational Switching
- Voting Jess for ??
- 46h inactivity
- Not really contributing in any way
Hika

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Hika wrote:

I want to wait for Xiz first. If he doesn't show up, Jess goes first.
Wait why are we watiing for xiz, just his reason for voting Jess or is there something else (I do agree with this but for a different reason).
Waiting for his defense.
sLaiNi
The only one I would change vote for is xiz.
MBomb
Xiz is town.
MBomb
Also, if you're gonna accuse him, at least get a prod so that he actually is here.

@Mod, prod Xiz too please.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Xiz has been prodded.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

Xiz has been prodded.
Yes, I know I forgot the Bold.


@Mod, is it supposed to be like that, that Jess has 2 votes on 2 different persons?
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

Xiz has been prodded.
@mod Don't forget SNB
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Hasn't been 36 hours yet~
MBomb
Oh whoops thought it was 24 hours needed rip
Hika
@Mod: Votecount please
sLaiNi
Saying nothing is more of an answer than I need.


My vote will stay on Jess no matter what happens. She is a double voter, claimed VT and the mod said that all role pm's are in the first post.

Town:
VT
Seer
Cop

Scum:
"Randomly assigned"
When joining the game I thought, that this was meant to be "the scum members are randomly assigned", but I seem to have been wrong there.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

- Mafia Goons or Werewolves are chosen randomly by the mod pregame
I meant this one.
MBomb
I'm pretty sure the double vote thing was a mistake, but if Ace doesn't confirm it then I'll assume it's not.
Hika
He ran over it like twice too so idk...
Birdy
I've had a bad headache for 5 or 6 days now but it's starting to get easy on me during nights (with an exception of yesterday).

Might be voting Jess in a minute.
Birdy

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I think it's a bit early to call this, but Xiz is scum. AFAIK he's only causing confusion or just otherwise sincerely playing bad.

The other one could be anyone.
All Xiz had said at this point is his points leading up to him thinking either Slaini or Jess are scum, which didn't seem to even be that confusing, and seemed like genuine scumhunting, at least in my eyes.
Easy there. I saw it as genuine confusionmaking, you saw it as scumhunting. If you and Xiz both end up flipping scum, now I wouldn't be surprised anymore.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Gumica is town. treebomb seems to be building wishful conspiracies which is not exactly helpful.

Jess is playing bad like always so I'm assuming they're scum as always.
Firstly, Gumica had only made 4 posts at this point, 2 of which were joke posts. Secondly, assuming someone who always plays badly is scum because they're playing badly is stupid logic.
Gumica seemed townish by default. Secondly, if anyone took that seriously, I'm sorry. Meta is a retarded argument in the first place, and I'm always using it ironically. Good thing you got that.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Considering voting Xiz for now.
Yet he never actually did, despite the fact this was the second time he hinted at the fact he thought Xiz was scum, and had no other scum reads that he even mentioned.

After this, it's all just "lurking, lurking, trying to make this post not look like a prod dodge, lurking".
You didn't get the "considering" part, now did you?

My reads on everyone got hazier afterwards (pretty sure I mentioned that, of course you didn't quote that because it wasn't relevant to your "scumhunting" post here), which is why I never voted him.

I'm only now getting more sure about you and Xiz again, possibly Jess too. If the scumteam falls completely or even partially outside you three, good job scum.

Not proofreading this because my headache is returning, damn it.
Birdy
Gumica's posts seem overall less aggressive but also info-emptier than Xiz's very aggressive start, so it does also make sense Gumica is a more possible candidate for a scum than Xiz.

Hika is absolutely null to me currently.

Gotta re-read Slaini and Gumica now.
sLaiNi

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I'm only now getting more sure about you and Xiz again, possibly Jess too. If the scumteam falls completely or even partially outside you three, good job scum.
It's only supposed to have 2 scums...atleast I am sure there is nothing to missunderstand regarding this, while we missunderstood the roles.

I wish you that your headache gets better and I will go to bed now, as I get an headache, too and I am really tired.

See you in two days, hopefully.
MBomb

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Getting more and more confident about Jess (once again) and less confident about pretty much everyone else.
This is the only post even close to saying your reads were getting hazier, and I'm pretty sure it's a lot easier and makes a lot more sense to take this as "less confident about the people I was reading as scum".
MBomb
And just wondering, are you scumreading me just because I'm voting you, or is there some other reason?
MBomb
Because if that's your reasoning it's stupid as fuck and you know it is.
MBomb

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Gumica's posts seem overall less aggressive but also info-emptier than Xiz's very aggressive start, so it does also make sense Gumica is a more possible candidate for a scum than Xiz.
So wait, what you're saying is "Oh, MB and Xiz are probably scum together, but Xiz is less likely to be scum than other people". Are you implying that I'm scum with someone else, or there's a different scum team?
Birdy
Gumica stated interest in lynching Xiz while not forming any kind of wagon successfully, so it's likely they both can't be scum.

Other than that, I can already see no hunt process involved in the rest of his good amount of posts. Perfectly reminds me of someone else who indeed was scum in an earlier game this year.

sLaiNi wrote:

It's only supposed to have 2 scums...atleast I am sure there is nothing to missunderstand regarding this, while we missunderstood the roles.
I meant if none of the three I mentioned are scum, then I'm surprised. But then again my reads just changed after re-reading Gumica and Xiz.
Birdy

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

And just wondering, are you scumreading me just because I'm voting you, or is there some other reason?
Mostly because you're really just trying to look for evidence, while I'm trying to help town as best as I can.

Vote: Gumica
Birdy
You know, differing opinions and such. I guess that's why you voted me in the first place, too.
MBomb

Static Noise Bird wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

And just wondering, are you scumreading me just because I'm voting you, or is there some other reason?
Mostly because you're really just trying to look for evidence, while I'm trying to help town as best as I can.

Vote: Gumica
Surely, getting evidence is the best way to help town, if you can find something incriminating for someone, you can find the scumteam? Either way, I find that vote interesting, ik why you did it because you stated earlier, but I didn't expect it.
Hika
I wasn't expecting Gumi vote either. You really don't think Jess is good enough for a lynch?
MBomb
Getting less sure of SNB because of his posts, but he appears in both of my ideas of possible scumteams, ugh.
MBomb
I still want Xiz to get here before any kind of lynch.
Hika
Xiz may not show up. I'm gonna drop my vote on Jess if he doesn't though. Who is against this?
MBomb
How long will you be around? I'd prefer it to be as close to deadline as possible (Leave a good 45 minutes before deadline though, even if you'll be here at deadline, just in case someone unvotes)
Hika
I'll be here until deadline. I have my eyes on this on purpose.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

- Mafia Goons or Werewolves are chosen randomly by the mod pregame
I meant this one.
This refers to whether the scum team is werewolf or mafia.
Gumica
Lack of hunting you say? Hmm. I don't know what you define as a hunting proccess. You think the key is always a direct agrression?
I think it's more about gathering and assessing informartion. Besides, unlike the majority here, I wasn't hunting inactive folks, but rather going after the one that seemed the most scummy through their posts at the time (Xiz). But then again, half of the players were kind of inactive, including yourself, so I guess it's hard for you to understand.

Hmm hmm
MBomb
Lack of activity this close to deadline isn't good...

Either way, I'm kinda more against an SNB lynch now after what he's said. So we could either go for a Jess lynch or a slaini lynch (I'd prefer a Jess lynch personally).
Hika
Then Jess if we are already on it... I'm still watching the clock.
MBomb
Jess is still on L-2 btw so I'll make it L-1 so you can hammer just in case I'm afk before deadline.

vote: Jess
Hika
I'm scared to hammer that lol. I still have my doubts...
MBomb

Hika wrote:

I'm scared to hammer that lol. I still have my doubts...
Honestly, I'd rather have a hammer than a no lynch. At least a hammer gives us information.
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