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MBomb
Oh i forgot to change vote.

Unvote
Vote: Slaini
Gumica
@MB: Why did you change the vote now, and what exactly made you vote Slaini?
MBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Tbh I'm mainly voting Jess for pressure reasons. Hopefully she'll talk more if there's votes on her.
With Jess, we've basically got all the information we'll get before deadline.

As for Slaini, it's PoE, he's more scummy than the other alternative I have in my mind.
Gumica
I see. Well, it was a tough gamble to pressurevote somebody when they're on L-1, knowing that people could just hammer.
But ok..

As to answer to your question about a favorite, I'd go with Xiz.
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

I can't put myself in this game though.
Atleast you got another excuse than "Eating lunch".

-[Jess]- wrote:

Everyone just like pushing me harder to get my read
So you basically said what we're all about and still you are not ready to give any useful thoughts and keep prod dodging?


My whole pushing on her was to get reads from here, as it's known that she is slipping alot. Now her answer just makes me even more suspicious of her. My vote was just putting pressure on her, but I'll keep it like this.
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Tbh I'm mainly voting Jess for pressure reasons. Hopefully she'll talk more if there's votes on her.
With Jess, we've basically got all the information we'll get before deadline.
Except that we did not get any information out of her.


As for Slaini, it's PoE, he's more scummy than the other alternative I have in my mind.[/quote]

Due to actually trying to get anything useful instead of putting the finger halfway into the water like you did. "Oh you possibly scumslipped there" "I did not" "Okay"?
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

My whole pushing on her was to get reads from here, as it's known that she is slipping alot. Now her answer just makes me even more suspicious of her. My vote was just putting pressure on her, but I'll keep it like this.
XD

omg newbie scum
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

XD

omg newbie scum
Actually, you just made me even more sure
MBomb

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

My whole pushing on her was to get reads from here, as it's known that she is slipping alot. Now her answer just makes me even more suspicious of her. My vote was just putting pressure on her, but I'll keep it like this.
XD

omg newbie scum
...wait is this you scumclaiming wut, if slaini was scum here he'd be playing better than some other scumplays I've seen...
MBomb
Unvote

ok i need time to think, I just realised if we get a mislynch we're on MyLo.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

I see. Well, it was a tough gamble to pressurevote somebody when they're on L-1, knowing that people could just hammer.
But ok..

As to answer to your question about a favorite, I'd go with Xiz.
If there was a hammer, the person would be lynched the next day anyway, I'd assume...
Drezi
/off/

why isn't Jess banned already? like seriously now, how can you keep playing like this.
-[Jess]-

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

...wait is this you scumclaiming wut, if slaini was scum here he'd be playing better than some other scumplays I've seen...
1. wut no

2. no he is not.
I am pretty sure he is scum.
MBomb
Hmm I'm starting to think a Jess lynch would be good again. The more i think about it, worst case scenario, we lose a town member, who isn't contributing much (if at all), and most likely the people who are pushing hardest are scum in that case because she's an easy mislynch, so we still get info.

Best case scenario, Jess is scum, and then I'm pretty sure I know who her scum partner would be.
Gumica
Based on what?
Gumica
fucking MB ninja'd me :D
the above question was directed at Jess
sLaiNi
I just noticed that we are only allowed to misslynch once in a row or we will loose right away. So cop and seer should better do their job as good as possible.


Also this requires us to think closely about who to lynch now.
Hika
Remember my warning, I will not forgive you sLaiNi if Jess flips town. I will seriously hunt the hell out of you if this keeps going.
I promise, my reads will flip if you guys don't quit this.

But you know what, just having one opinion on it won't work. If you guys don't see what I mean then so be it. I am against voting Jess. Please don't try to persuade me or anything. My vote stays where it is regardless.
sLaiNi

Hika wrote:

Remember my warning, I will not forgive you sLaiNi if Jess flips town. I will seriously hunt the hell out of you if this keeps going.
I promise, my reads will flip if you guys don't quit this.

But you know what, just having one opinion on it won't work. If you guys don't see what I mean then so be it. I am against voting Jess. Please don't try to persuade me or anything. My vote stays where it is regardless.
I don't feel like scum team would do this, as this would be the worst kind of buddying there. So either Jess is scum and Hika town, really trying to save Jess for unknown reasons, or Hika is scum and Jess is town and Hika tries to get towncred from playing hero there and getting easy misslynch day 2 (misslynch day 1 and day 2 together will be an instant loose for us).
Gumica
Say Hika... I understand your reasoning, as I do feel simmilar towards Jess... But then you have this dilema:

In case Jess is scum and we lynch another player today instead.
Lynched Player flips Town.
Would you still consider Jess to be town player tomorrow?
Would you rather have Jess living tomorrow despite his uselessness in townplay?
Perhaps that is his plan all along? To make players such as yourself think he's town by decieving you.
Who would you go after in that case..?
Hika
Who would I go after? SLaiNi, of course sLaiNi. That's my biggest scum read.

Yeah, maybe I'm 50%/50% on lynching Jess because in my gut feeling, I know she could be town playing anti town day one but she could also flip scum. I already put a bet on myself that if she does end up scum then fuck me and my opinions for the rest of the game but I will follow my gut feeling. After some consideration, I could vote Jess if we all come to an understanding here.
Hika
Ugh, you know what, this hurts, now I don't even want to play right now.
Hika
Unvote

Everyone state your biggest scum read and why we should be voting them at this very moment in time.
MBomb
To be honest I'm pretty sure either slaini or Jess are scum, so I would agree with lynching slaini if Jess flips town.
MBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Hmm I'm starting to think a Jess lynch would be good again. The more i think about it, worst case scenario, we lose a town member, who isn't contributing much (if at all), and most likely the people who are pushing hardest are scum in that case because she's an easy mislynch, so we still get info.

Best case scenario, Jess is scum, and then I'm pretty sure I know who her scum partner would be.
@Hika I'm kinda torn between slaini or Jess, but for the reasons stated above I think a Jess lynch is better.
Hika
Alright, well since you are my only town read right now, I can agree with this.
Thanks. I'll consider it.
Birdy

Gumica wrote:

SNB, what do you understand about Jess now?
The frustration.

Reading the new posts in full detail later tonight.
Gumica
Personally, I'm not convinced about Jess, so I'm not going to vote him personally. I am suspecting one of the three players to be scum amongst Xiz, MB and sLaiNi... Because fuq, I call bullshit that all players are pressuring Jess for info.

sLaiNi is a mystery to me, I cannot interpret him, so I'm vary of him.
MB is switchied cause of "PoE"... now... really....
Xiz on the other hand hasn't really added to the debate either and switched.


My vote will most likely go for Xiz, unless you convince me for a reason other than pressuring to vote Jess
sLaiNi

Gumica wrote:

Personally, I'm not convinced about Jess, so I'm not going to vote him personally. I am suspecting one of the three players to be scum amongst Xiz, MB and sLaiNi... Because fuq, I call bullshit that all players are pressuring Jess for info.

sLaiNi is a mystery to me, I cannot interpret him, so I'm vary of him.
MB is switchied cause of "PoE"... now... really....
Xiz on the other hand hasn't really added to the debate either and switched.


My vote will most likely go for Xiz, unless you convince me for a reason other than pressuring to vote Jess
I agree with MB being too switch-happy IMO.
sLaiNi
That being said, I don't see much scum in his playstyle beside his unlogical vote jumping. So his actions feel scummy, but his playstyle is simmilar to his town games.
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

That being said, I don't see much scum in his playstyle beside his unlogical vote jumping. So his actions feel scummy, but his playstyle is simmilar to his town games.
To be fair vote jumping is kinda a standard of my playstyle as both town and scum, so I don't think you should really choose that to decide your read on me.
MBomb
Honestly, the decision between slaini and Jess is kinda a difficult one, my votes have been because of PoE this whole game though...
Hika
I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
sLaiNi

Hika wrote:

I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
Let's say, at this moment I am definitely fine with a Jess lynch if she does not finally start talking.

For this game thought, I don't like the statement, that "lynching a town who is not helping to win is not bad", because every misslynch is crucial for town in this mini setup without protective PR.
sLaiNi
To make it clear:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.


@Hika My biggest scumread ATM would be Jess and I have a very strong feeling that there's scum between MB and xiz, while I strongly tend to xiz.
Hika

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
^

@Jess, I'll give you a chance before I start thinking that you're 100% scum.
If you are a PR, reveal yourself and RC, and if not, at least give us some reads.
MBomb
wait shit just realised I won't be on for deadline. Last I'll be on is in like 7 hours and that's if I don't oversleep before college. I'll try to get on in the morning, and I'll place my vote on Jess, unless the posts after this persuade me otherwise.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Vote Count 1.04


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[0] sLaNi --
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[1] Xiz -- -[Jess]-
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, Gumica, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Hika
No, I don't think she'll say anything different. Meh. This is the most frustrating part about a game. Won't even call in a replacement ...
-[Jess]-
I am at school now,post later.
MBomb

-[Jess]- wrote:

I am at school now,post later.
...I've already stated I won't be around before deadline.

No one hammer until two hours before deadline if she hasn't posted by then.

Vote: Jess
MBomb
Oh btw I might use my phone data at college just to post one thing just before deadline but yeah I'm not gonna keep refreshing to see if Jess posts anything.
MBomb
Really, no posts…?

Kk I should hopefully be on 20 minutes before deadline, idk though.
Gumica
I might not be here later either. I haven't sleept for the last 48 hours. I'm killed. So just in case:
Vote: Xiz
-[Jess]-
Give me some times, I have back to school.
Gumica
Well you have 12 hours left
-[Jess]-

Hika wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
^

@Jess, I'll give you a chance before I start thinking that you're 100% scum.
If you are a PR, reveal yourself and RC, and if not, at least give us some reads.
Done

So first at all,I am a VT.Second here is my read:

(Scum)sLaiNi<Xiz<Gumi<Hika<MB(town)
Gumica
I'm assuming your reasons for these reads, especially scum ones are over the same reasons as other people mentioned?

You're voting Xiz, yet your biggest scumread is sLaiNi?

Where is SNB on your list?
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Well you have 12 hours left
Isn't deadline in 20 minutes?
-[Jess]-

Gumica wrote:

I'm assuming your reasons for these reads, especially scum ones are over the same reasons as other people mentioned?

You're voting Xiz, yet your biggest scumread is sLaiNi?

Where is SNB on your list?
I am fixing now ;w;
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Where is SNB on your list?
Also yeah, Jess, why did you not include SNB?
Gumica
ummm

Deadline is September 25 at 7:30PM EST (UTC-4)
7:30PM EST (1:30AM Central Europe, or 0:30AM for you in UK)
-[Jess]-

-[Jess]- wrote:

So first at all,I am a VT.Second here is my read:

(Scum)sLaiNi<Xiz<Gumi<Hika<MB(town)
omg i forgot SNB. He is null

LoLz I just post the first part,here is the explain,

sLaiNi - I can't explain.Just look at his posts,He is very scummy.And he just like to push me to lynch(because I am the most easiest lynch).

Xiz - he just like a newbie scum,Pushing a easy mislynch .

Gumi - gut feeling,also I am a she

SNB - also gut feeling

Hika - She read my as town,So i will trusting she is town

MB - no time to explain.
unvote
vote:sLaiNi

That it.

If I die,please lynch Xiz,thanks.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

ummm

Deadline is September 25 at 7:30PM EST (UTC-4)
7:30PM EST (1:30AM Central Europe, or 0:30AM for you in UK)
Oh, title confused me because I'd expect it to be 19:30 if it was pm ok I will be around for deadline then. No one hammer for another 3 hours until I get home.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[1] Xiz -- Gumica
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Gumica

Ace Timing wrote:

Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3
Topic Starter
Ace Timing

Gumica wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3
[insert sarcastic comment here]
Gumica
So she is. Good to know
Gumica
Considering she just roleclaimed VT and is now apparently a doublevoter, lel....

:^)
sLaiNi
Wut, was it a mod mistake or is she really DV, thought this is an open game
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
what error?

Ace Timing wrote:

[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
There is no error. All roles are in the Sample PMs.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

Vote Count 1.05


[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --


[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3
wut
MBomb
Oh also @mod I voted Jess, but you missed me out on the vote count.
-[Jess]-
Lolz

I am NOT a dv orz
Gumica
you know, just the fact that he has a vote both on sLaiNi and Xiz...
-[Jess]-

Gumica wrote:

you know, just the fact that he has a vote both on sLaiNi and Xiz...
囧rz
Mod fix it please
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

you know, just the fact that he has a vote both on sLaiNi and Xiz...
oh i didn't even see that lmao
Hika
It's just a mod error. It's open setup so just chill out my love bugs. :*
Gumica
Yeah well.. I wasn't trying to be mean =) I just put it in a sarcastic way, in a way which apparently wasn't taken lightly :D

Anyways, 7 hours or so remain.
imho Jess's post makes little to no difference to me, but the majority of you should've changed your votes now, the votes which were based on pressuring Jess.
MBomb

Gumica wrote:

Yeah well.. I wasn't trying to be mean =) I just put it in a sarcastic way, in a way which apparently wasn't taken lightly :D

Anyways, 7 hours or so remain.
imho Jess's post makes little to no difference to me, but the majority of you should've changed your votes now, the votes which were based on pressuring Jess.
As far as I know, no other people voted for that reason other than me, and I've already stated why I'm keeping my vote on her.
-[Jess]-
I will not around the deadline tho,I was still asleep.
Gumica
sLaiNi said that too.
And I'm pretty sure Xiz had the same kind of idea behind his vote, since he never said anything (but then again, he never really gave any propper explanation for any other of his votes..)
sLaiNi
@Mod, is it really meant to have 2 votes of Jess on 2 different persons?


Yeah I said that it was a pressure vote, but at some point I stated that it's a real vote now.
MBomb
Xiz, when you get here, firstly say your reason for voting Jess, and secondly, answer, will you be around just before deadline?
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

@Mod, is it really meant to have 2 votes of Jess on 2 different persons?


Yeah I said that it was a pressure vote, but at some point I stated that it's a real vote now.
As far as I can see, this is the only indication that your vote isn't just a pressure vote and even this isn't that strong.

sLaiNi wrote:

Hika wrote:

I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
Let's say, at this moment I am definitely fine with a Jess lynch if she does not finally start talking.

For this game thought, I don't like the statement, that "lynching a town who is not helping to win is not bad", because every misslynch is crucial for town in this mini setup without protective PR.
MBomb
Actually screw this, following my really strong gut feeling after reading through ISOs.

Unvote
Vote: SNB
MBomb
I will accept Jess as a second lynch if no one agrees with me on this, as I understand deadline is soon. But I'm pretty certain on this.
Hika
I'd still prefer Jess as a sacrificial lynch any day over SNB. I'd prefer to check him out later tbh.
MBomb
Oh and before anyone's like "Give reasons" I'm typing a textwall, give me like 15 minutes because I'm also eating dinner whilst I type.
MBomb
And unlike Jess I eat and type at the same time :^)
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

And unlike Jess I eat and type at the same time :^)
I see what you did there :D
MBomb

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I think it's a bit early to call this, but Xiz is scum. AFAIK he's only causing confusion or just otherwise sincerely playing bad.

The other one could be anyone.
All Xiz had said at this point is his points leading up to him thinking either Slaini or Jess are scum, which didn't seem to even be that confusing, and seemed like genuine scumhunting, at least in my eyes.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Gumica is town. treebomb seems to be building wishful conspiracies which is not exactly helpful.

Jess is playing bad like always so I'm assuming they're scum as always.
Firstly, Gumica had only made 4 posts at this point, 2 of which were joke posts. Secondly, assuming someone who always plays badly is scum because they're playing badly is stupid logic.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Considering voting Xiz for now.
Yet he never actually did, despite the fact this was the second time he hinted at the fact he thought Xiz was scum, and had no other scum reads that he even mentioned.

After this, it's all just "lurking, lurking, trying to make this post not look like a prod dodge, lurking".
MBomb
Less of a textwall than I thought it would be because of how few posts he actually has, and how little content the most recent from him have, he's mostly doing the thing that MOST PEOPLE SCUMREAD JESS FOR IN GAMES of going "Oh I'll post later" and then never actually posting.
MBomb
@Mod: Prod SNB please.
MBomb
Oh also the lack of counterwagon in response to jess is worrying.
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh also the lack of counterwagon in response to jess is worrying.
Lawl, there is an equal counterwagon.
Hika
I mean, I already tried to counter it , not by voting but by observation and crap.
Hika
I want to wait for Xiz first. If he doesn't show up, Jess goes first.
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh also the lack of counterwagon in response to jess is worrying.
Lawl, there is an equal counterwagon.
No there isn't. Jess was on 3 votes before I unvoted, everyone else was on 1 (Xiz was on 1 but Jess's vote was shown there because the mod messed up)
MBomb

Hika wrote:

I want to wait for Xiz first. If he doesn't show up, Jess goes first.
Wait why are we watiing for xiz, just his reason for voting Jess or is there something else (I do agree with this but for a different reason).
Gumica
Well, you don't need a counterwagon to express an opinion. Me and Hika have both expressed opposition to lyching Jess.

Anyways, yeah, I was actually thinking of SNB yesterday, since he said he'd post his thoughts on the recent posts, but he never did.
Gumica
By "we" in Xiz bandwagon you mainly mean just me, since i'm the only one on it;

- Irrational Switching
- Voting Jess for ??
- 46h inactivity
- Not really contributing in any way
Hika

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Hika wrote:

I want to wait for Xiz first. If he doesn't show up, Jess goes first.
Wait why are we watiing for xiz, just his reason for voting Jess or is there something else (I do agree with this but for a different reason).
Waiting for his defense.
sLaiNi
The only one I would change vote for is xiz.
MBomb
Xiz is town.
MBomb
Also, if you're gonna accuse him, at least get a prod so that he actually is here.

@Mod, prod Xiz too please.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Xiz has been prodded.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

Xiz has been prodded.
Yes, I know I forgot the Bold.


@Mod, is it supposed to be like that, that Jess has 2 votes on 2 different persons?
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

Xiz has been prodded.
@mod Don't forget SNB
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Hasn't been 36 hours yet~
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