Ugh, you know what, this hurts, now I don't even want to play right now.
@Hika I'm kinda torn between slaini or Jess, but for the reasons stated above I think a Jess lynch is better.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Hmm I'm starting to think a Jess lynch would be good again. The more i think about it, worst case scenario, we lose a town member, who isn't contributing much (if at all), and most likely the people who are pushing hardest are scum in that case because she's an easy mislynch, so we still get info.
Best case scenario, Jess is scum, and then I'm pretty sure I know who her scum partner would be.
The frustration.Gumica wrote:
SNB, what do you understand about Jess now?
I agree with MB being too switch-happy IMO.Gumica wrote:
Personally, I'm not convinced about Jess, so I'm not going to vote him personally. I am suspecting one of the three players to be scum amongst Xiz, MB and sLaiNi... Because fuq, I call bullshit that all players are pressuring Jess for info.
sLaiNi is a mystery to me, I cannot interpret him, so I'm vary of him.
MB is switchied cause of "PoE"... now... really....
Xiz on the other hand hasn't really added to the debate either and switched.
My vote will most likely go for Xiz, unless you convince me for a reason other than pressuring to vote Jess
To be fair vote jumping is kinda a standard of my playstyle as both town and scum, so I don't think you should really choose that to decide your read on me.sLaiNi wrote:
That being said, I don't see much scum in his playstyle beside his unlogical vote jumping. So his actions feel scummy, but his playstyle is simmilar to his town games.
Let's say, at this moment I am definitely fine with a Jess lynch if she does not finally start talking.Hika wrote:
I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
^sLaiNi wrote:
Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
DoneHika wrote:
^sLaiNi wrote:
Jess explain yourself and finally make some indepth reads.
@Jess, I'll give you a chance before I start thinking that you're 100% scum.
If you are a PR, reveal yourself and RC, and if not, at least give us some reads.
I am fixing now ;w;Gumica wrote:
I'm assuming your reasons for these reads, especially scum ones are over the same reasons as other people mentioned?
You're voting Xiz, yet your biggest scumread is sLaiNi?
Where is SNB on your list?
Deadline is September 25 at 7:30PM EST (UTC-4)7:30PM EST (1:30AM Central Europe, or 0:30AM for you in UK)
omg i forgot SNB. He is null-[Jess]- wrote:
So first at all,I am a VT.Second here is my read:
(Scum)sLaiNi<Xiz<Gumi<Hika<MB(town)
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3Ace Timing wrote:
Vote Count 1.05
[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --
[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
[insert sarcastic comment here]Gumica wrote:
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3Ace Timing wrote:
Vote Count 1.05
[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --
[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
There is no error. All roles are in the Sample PMs.Ace Timing wrote:
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
wutGumica wrote:
@Ace, So Jess is a doublevoter? :3Ace Timing wrote:
Vote Count 1.05
[0] Hika --
[2] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi, Xiz (L-2)
[1] sLaNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] - Magic Bomb - --
[2] Xiz -- -[Jess]-, Gumica (L-2)
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Gumica --
[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Static Noise Bird, - Magic Bomb -, Hika
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
囧rzGumica wrote:
you know, just the fact that he has a vote both on sLaiNi and Xiz...
As far as I know, no other people voted for that reason other than me, and I've already stated why I'm keeping my vote on her.Gumica wrote:
Yeah well.. I wasn't trying to be mean =) I just put it in a sarcastic way, in a way which apparently wasn't taken lightly
Anyways, 7 hours or so remain.
imho Jess's post makes little to no difference to me, but the majority of you should've changed your votes now, the votes which were based on pressuring Jess.
As far as I can see, this is the only indication that your vote isn't just a pressure vote and even this isn't that strong.sLaiNi wrote:
@Mod, is it really meant to have 2 votes of Jess on 2 different persons?
Yeah I said that it was a pressure vote, but at some point I stated that it's a real vote now.
sLaiNi wrote:
Let's say, at this moment I am definitely fine with a Jess lynch if she does not finally start talking.Hika wrote:
I think Jess will be a better vote if sLaiNi pushes it.
For this game thought, I don't like the statement, that "lynching a town who is not helping to win is not bad", because every misslynch is crucial for town in this mini setup without protective PR.
I see what you did there- Magic Bomb - wrote:
And unlike Jess I eat and type at the same time :^)
All Xiz had said at this point is his points leading up to him thinking either Slaini or Jess are scum, which didn't seem to even be that confusing, and seemed like genuine scumhunting, at least in my eyes.Static Noise Bird wrote:
I think it's a bit early to call this, but Xiz is scum. AFAIK he's only causing confusion or just otherwise sincerely playing bad.
The other one could be anyone.
Firstly, Gumica had only made 4 posts at this point, 2 of which were joke posts. Secondly, assuming someone who always plays badly is scum because they're playing badly is stupid logic.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Gumica is town. treebomb seems to be building wishful conspiracies which is not exactly helpful.
Jess is playing bad like always so I'm assuming they're scum as always.
Yet he never actually did, despite the fact this was the second time he hinted at the fact he thought Xiz was scum, and had no other scum reads that he even mentioned.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Considering voting Xiz for now.
Lawl, there is an equal counterwagon.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Oh also the lack of counterwagon in response to jess is worrying.
Waiting for his defense.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Wait why are we watiing for xiz, just his reason for voting Jess or is there something else (I do agree with this but for a different reason).Hika wrote:
I want to wait for Xiz first. If he doesn't show up, Jess goes first.
Yes, I know I forgot the Bold.Ace Timing wrote:
Xiz has been prodded.
I meant this one.Ace Timing wrote:
- Mafia Goons or Werewolves are chosen randomly by the mod pregame
Easy there. I saw it as genuine confusionmaking, you saw it as scumhunting. If you and Xiz both end up flipping scum, now I wouldn't be surprised anymore.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
All Xiz had said at this point is his points leading up to him thinking either Slaini or Jess are scum, which didn't seem to even be that confusing, and seemed like genuine scumhunting, at least in my eyes.Static Noise Bird wrote:
I think it's a bit early to call this, but Xiz is scum. AFAIK he's only causing confusion or just otherwise sincerely playing bad.
The other one could be anyone.
Gumica seemed townish by default. Secondly, if anyone took that seriously, I'm sorry. Meta is a retarded argument in the first place, and I'm always using it ironically. Good thing you got that.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Firstly, Gumica had only made 4 posts at this point, 2 of which were joke posts. Secondly, assuming someone who always plays badly is scum because they're playing badly is stupid logic.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Gumica is town. treebomb seems to be building wishful conspiracies which is not exactly helpful.
Jess is playing bad like always so I'm assuming they're scum as always.
You didn't get the "considering" part, now did you?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Yet he never actually did, despite the fact this was the second time he hinted at the fact he thought Xiz was scum, and had no other scum reads that he even mentioned.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Considering voting Xiz for now.
After this, it's all just "lurking, lurking, trying to make this post not look like a prod dodge, lurking".
It's only supposed to have 2 scums...atleast I am sure there is nothing to missunderstand regarding this, while we missunderstood the roles.Static Noise Bird wrote:
I'm only now getting more sure about you and Xiz again, possibly Jess too. If the scumteam falls completely or even partially outside you three, good job scum.
This is the only post even close to saying your reads were getting hazier, and I'm pretty sure it's a lot easier and makes a lot more sense to take this as "less confident about the people I was reading as scum".Static Noise Bird wrote:
Getting more and more confident about Jess (once again) and less confident about pretty much everyone else.
So wait, what you're saying is "Oh, MB and Xiz are probably scum together, but Xiz is less likely to be scum than other people". Are you implying that I'm scum with someone else, or there's a different scum team?Static Noise Bird wrote:
Gumica's posts seem overall less aggressive but also info-emptier than Xiz's very aggressive start, so it does also make sense Gumica is a more possible candidate for a scum than Xiz.
I meant if none of the three I mentioned are scum, then I'm surprised. But then again my reads just changed after re-reading Gumica and Xiz.sLaiNi wrote:
It's only supposed to have 2 scums...atleast I am sure there is nothing to missunderstand regarding this, while we missunderstood the roles.
Mostly because you're really just trying to look for evidence, while I'm trying to help town as best as I can.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
And just wondering, are you scumreading me just because I'm voting you, or is there some other reason?
Surely, getting evidence is the best way to help town, if you can find something incriminating for someone, you can find the scumteam? Either way, I find that vote interesting, ik why you did it because you stated earlier, but I didn't expect it.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Mostly because you're really just trying to look for evidence, while I'm trying to help town as best as I can.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
And just wondering, are you scumreading me just because I'm voting you, or is there some other reason?
Vote: Gumica