CelsiusLK wrote:

[general]

1. looks fine

[promise]

1. 00:49:746 (7) - nc ? sound like new part of music here fixed
2. 01:10:313 (4) - try move this to around x328 y272 ? so it would make flow here 01:10:158 (3,4,5) - better imo , I think 01:10:313 (4,5) - should make bigger spacing than 01:10:158 (3,4) - since 01:10:468 - sound more emphasized than 01:10:313 - makes sense, fixed
3. 01:15:416 (5,6,7,8,1) - I think if you curve stream down instead it would make flow here 01:15:262 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - a bit better imo yeah true, fixed
4. 01:34:901 (3,4,5,6,1) - try make spacing here a bit more consistent so it would make flow here better imo fixed
5. 01:47:581 (5,1) - why suddenly lower spacing at emphasized beat here ? I think it make flow here a bit awkward , you can try place these notes 01:47:890 (1,2) - like this moved stuff around a bit like your example, fixed
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6. 01:52:839 (1) - I think if you curve this the another way like this it will make flow here 01:52:530 (5,1,2) - nice imo hmm fixed
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7. 02:15:725 (4,5,6,7) - I think circles rhythm things in this calm part here is a bit awkward to play so I suggest change some to slider , this is what I would do Thats true, fixed
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8. 02:44:024 (3) - I think if you curve this the another way it will make flow here 02:43:870 (2,3,4,5) - better imo okay, fixed
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9. 02:44:024 (3,4,5) - try make spacing here a bit more consistent so it would make flow here better fixed
10. 02:46:035 (1,3) - not a really good looking imo try move (3) away from (1) a bit fixed
11. 02:46:653 (4,5) - give flow some angle here would be nice , try move 02:46:808 (5) - to around x284 y92 fixed
12. 03:07:993 (6,7) - swap place of these two notes would make flow here 03:07:375 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - nice imo the direction change is on purpose, it plays fine to me so no change here
13. 03:09:849 (2) - rhythm here a bit weird since you map emphasized vocal as sliderend , try this rhythm instead ? fixed
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14. 03:30:571 (1) - mmhhm move this to around x352 y64 ? would make flow here 03:30:261 (5,6,1) - better imo fixed
15. 03:43:406 (4,5,6) - try place these notes like this ? would make flow here 03:42:942 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - better imo kinda like it how it is, it plays fine so no change
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16. 03:55:931 (3,4,5) - try make spacing a bit more consistent so it would make flow here better imo fixed
17. 03:59:333 (3,4) - flow kinda awkward imo , try move (4) to around x264 y48 ? would make flow here a bit better imo fixed

good luck , have fun mapping

Dubu wrote:

wow i promised to mod this orz

Well I played it a few times, flow feels alright, mapped pretty good. I'll just point random things/suggestions I guess.

00:15:416 (5) - can make this a 3/4 slider, optionally you can lower the volume for the sliderend as well. okay done

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00:25:158 (4) - feel like these should be circles, 00:25:313 - could use a bit more emphasis, but it plays well as it is so dw, its just a suggestion. gonna keep as is
01:01:499 (5) - i know it looks pretty as it is but i think this could have a bit more emphasis, but honestly i don't like the whole pattern, maybe you can tilt it as it spins around so its easier to read. Possible solutions: totally get what you mean, tried it before but didnt play well, added some spacing
make 01:01:499 (5) - a 1/2 slider
OR
01:01:499 (5) - make a jump

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01:04:901 (3) - x:101, y:130 fixed
01:09:231 (5) - could be a 1/2 slider, this opportunity repeats throughout the whole map so dw, as long as it's consistent its alright hmm gonna keep as is
01:20:674 - - 01:23:148 - can we insert a break here, that drain will kill HR players who f'd the jumps here 01:20:055 (1,2,3,4,1) - added a few singles, cant add break cuz 5 min
01:40:468 (1) - make the actual slider a whistle instead of the slider start? and this needs a strong hitsound too 01:40:468 (1) - maybe a drum clap okay
01:59:643 - - 02:00:571 - could make this a stream (sounds weird in the song itself but to me it definitely sounds like the drums are spamming at 1/4 or faster) hmm im gonna keep as is, don't think a stream will fit
02:08:148 - 02:08:225 - 02:08:303 - could be a triplet rather this section be a bit more calm and easier
02:08:921 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - thank god slider ticks exist LOL I TOTALLY DIDNT SILENCE THEM OR ANYTHING
02:26:859 (6) - circle, start stream here 02:27:014 - hmm yeah that works
02:35:364 (2) - definitely a combo breaker, pls no, way too far from the 1/4 slider stream, the emphasis is alright, but in terms of gameplay, maybe i'm just noob, idk I personally think its fine, slider leniency and all, I haven't broken there so no change
02:48:973 - parts like these are screaming for a stream, just my opinion fixed some, some are 1/8s did some other stuff instead of steam
03:06:602 (4) - x:386, y:123 fixed
03:07:529 (3,6,2,4) - i think these babies want more emphasis, why you bully them, increase spacing for them? don't necessarily agree with which notes should be emphasized but that's why i did the direction change and backwards and forwards, no change
03:25:313 (5,2) - this stack looks off o.O it is, fixed
03:44:797 (4) - nazi: x:67, y:250 fixed
03:59:952 (6) - ^ x:205, y:170 fixed
04:28:483 - i think you can fill it in with a circle man, 04:28:406 - sounds like a start of a stream, i know those drums are hard to hear but it's kind of noticable, maybe just me idk very true, fixed
04:43:560 (1) - moth FAIRY QWQ, the center red anchor point: x:256, y:156, it will fix the start/end symmetry issue (at least to my eyes). Checked it with photoshop, it's 100% perfectly symmetrical, well done OMG THANKYOU THAT WAS BOTHERING ME

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Great map, good luck approving it <3

Spaghetti wrote:

cool song

2015-07-07 18:17 Spaghetti: is there supposed to be a comma in the title?
2015-07-07 18:18 moph: yeeep apparently its meant to be there
2015-07-07 18:19 Spaghetti: welp downloading rn
2015-07-07 18:19 Spaghetti: do you have time for an irc mod
2015-07-07 18:20 moph: yeah sure!
2015-07-07 18:27 Spaghetti: 00:42:014 (1,2,1,2) - 
2015-07-07 18:27 Spaghetti: seems like you're holding back a lot here
2015-07-07 18:27 Spaghetti: you should bump up the SV since the song is so intense there
2015-07-07 18:28 Spaghetti: 00:39:849 (1) - I'd just place a note there to add like a moment of silence before the epic vocal part
2015-07-07 18:30 moph: hmm good point
2015-07-07 18:30 moph: also yeah increased the sv for the slow parts
2015-07-07 18:30 Spaghetti: bleh, this map is already so polished
2015-07-07 18:31 Spaghetti: how many mods have you recieved?
2015-07-07 18:31 moph: uhh like 11 i think
2015-07-07 18:31 Spaghetti: 01:07:993 (6,7,8) - 
2015-07-07 18:31 Spaghetti: kinda awkward to play imo, I'd just place a stream there
2015-07-07 18:32 moph: i recently remapped some parts tho
2015-07-07 18:32 Spaghetti: bleh I skipped something
2015-07-07 18:32 Spaghetti: 00:55:313 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - 
2015-07-07 18:32 Spaghetti: the QAT might yell at you for that huge spacing
2015-07-07 18:33 moph: lol i think it might be okay since its from a slider to a stream
2015-07-07 18:33 Spaghetti: 01:11:705 (5,6) - REALLY big spacing, be careful
2015-07-07 18:33 moph: although yeah might reduce spacing a bit
2015-07-07 18:34 moph: hmm okay reduced it
2015-07-07 18:34 Spaghetti: 01:30:571 (1) - ctrl+G for better flow?
2015-07-07 18:34 Spaghetti: plays weird as it is with that up and down pattern
2015-07-07 18:35 Spaghetti: I'd ctrl G and space it a bit more
2015-07-07 18:35 moph: ahh true okay fixed
2015-07-07 18:36 Spaghetti: 01:41:086 (1,1,2,3,1) - 
2015-07-07 18:36 Spaghetti: like
2015-07-07 18:36 Spaghetti: wtf
2015-07-07 18:36 Spaghetti: are you a genius or something
2015-07-07 18:36 Spaghetti: this is amazing lol
2015-07-07 18:36 moph: lol tyty
2015-07-07 18:37 Spaghetti: 02:00:571 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 
2015-07-07 18:37 Spaghetti: big spacing to suddenly really small spacing
2015-07-07 18:38 Spaghetti: I'd just move some notes on the timeline around to make a star pattern
2015-07-07 18:38 Spaghetti: and to avoid remapping
2015-07-07 18:38 Spaghetti: :P
2015-07-07 18:38 Spaghetti: that whole slider section thing after is really cool
2015-07-07 18:38 moph: hmm good idea
2015-07-07 18:42 Spaghetti: 03:22:839 (1,2,3,4) - go ALL OUT with the sv here
2015-07-07 18:42 Spaghetti: this is the highlight of the map
2015-07-07 18:42 Spaghetti: have fun :P
2015-07-07 18:43 moph: haha hokay will do :3
2015-07-07 18:44 Spaghetti: 04:43:560 (1) - 
2015-07-07 18:44 Spaghetti: lol
2015-07-07 18:44 Spaghetti: waow.
2015-07-07 18:45 moph: can you tell what its meant to be :P
2015-07-07 18:45 Spaghetti: a butterfly
2015-07-07 18:45 Spaghetti: duh
2015-07-07 18:45 Spaghetti: 05:04:131 (1) - 
2015-07-07 18:45 Spaghetti: https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/31cs5q/when_the_mapper_puts_a_single_note_behind_the/
2015-07-07 18:46 moph: close enough ;-; was meant to be fairy wings haha
2015-07-07 18:46 moph: also LOL
2015-07-07 18:46 Spaghetti: yeah
2015-07-07 18:46 moph: incase people say its not 5 min of drain
2015-07-07 18:46 Spaghetti: just take out that note and extend the spinner 
2015-07-07 18:46 Spaghetti: and o
2015-07-07 18:46 moph: idk the last slider counts right
2015-07-07 18:46 moph: i mean spinner
2015-07-07 18:46 Spaghetti: it's a glitch
2015-07-07 18:46 Spaghetti: it should
2015-07-07 18:47 Spaghetti: my map was qualified with the last spinner
2015-07-07 18:47 Spaghetti: I'd take it out for now
2015-07-07 18:47 Spaghetti: and ask a QAT
2015-07-07 18:47 moph: alrighty will do then
2015-07-07 18:47 Spaghetti: oki

Discussed:

MetadataSV ChangesSpacingFlowDrain time

1. When I saw the HP5 I died inside. Ok it has to be like that for HR players, but this is going to take away the "challenge factor" in FC'ing the song no mod, and it's also the death of pp for no mod players, so even less rewarding ; ; did you just FC a 5.76*, 5 minute song? Here have the pp of a 5.20* tv size map, rip
2. 00:57:323 (2) - moving to x:296 y:288 improves the pattern a lot imo, the stack here kind of breaks flow
3. 01:31:499 (5) - I'd curve this, breaks the flow a lot like this
4. 02:53:303 (8,1) - should be a triple
5. 02:56:705 (6) - drum solo thing starting here, you have singles but there should be another stream :c (even though it might be hard to change rn)
6. 03:10:931 (2) - would stack better on 3 imo
7. 03:22:839 - I get chills everytime
8. 03:40:004 - there's an audible kick here, finish the slider here, and add a note in 03:40:081 - to complete a triple
9. 03:46:189 (6) - I love this part, and in my opinion it should be highlighted somehow, and I kind of like the idea of a kickslider to represent the voice "vibration", ex: http://puu.sh/iVoxn/bae914743c.jpg
10. 03:51:292 (4,1,2) - migh be personal but I don't like this flow, move 1 a bit up to around y:40 according to your DS
11. 04:02:736 (1) - how about ending the slider at 04:03:199 - and starting another slider on 04:03:354 - that finishes at 04:03:663 - it follows the song a lot better imo

- Milhofo - wrote:

Hey, from my queue!

[Promise]

1. When I saw the HP5 I died inside. Ok it has to be like that for HR players, but this is going to take away the "challenge factor" in FC'ing the song no mod, and it's also the death of pp for no mod players, so even less rewarding ; ; did you just FC a 5.76*, 5 minute song? Here have the pp of a 5.20* tv size map, rip FOUND A WAY TO PUT HP TO 7, totally nuked the bpm of the end to like 1/4, hope this is okay ;-; also wasn't aware hp affected pp so much
2. 00:57:323 (2) - moving to x:296 y:288 improves the pattern a lot imo, the stack here kind of breaks flow different co-ordinates but fixed i hope
3. 01:31:499 (5) - I'd curve this, breaks the flow a lot like this really? I think its fine as is
4. 02:53:303 (8,1) - should be a triple now its a stream :3
5. 02:56:705 (6) - drum solo thing starting here, you have singles but there should be another stream :c (even though it might be hard to change rn) welp remapped that part and its surroundings, now streams \o/
6. 03:10:931 (2) - would stack better on 3 imo kinda wana keep it as a two stack so it the same as the previous two notes
7. 03:22:839 - I get chills everytime how to make good sliders ;-;
8. 03:40:004 - there's an audible kick here, finish the slider here, and add a note in 03:40:081 - to complete a triple really want to keep the extended slider here to empasize and drag out the vocals here, no change for now
9. 03:46:189 (6) - I love this part, and in my opinion it should be highlighted somehow, and I kind of like the idea of a kickslider to represent the voice "vibration", ex: http://puu.sh/iVoxn/bae914743c.jpg good idea! okay added 2
10. 03:51:292 (4,1,2) - migh be personal but I don't like this flow, move 1 a bit up to around y:40 according to your DS hmm okay
11. 04:02:736 (1) - how about ending the slider at 04:03:199 - and starting another slider on 04:03:354 - that finishes at 04:03:663 - it follows the song a lot better imo i will since this has been mentioned before

That's everything, I seriously love the song and will love you forever for leading me into it, also love the map except the HP5, so will only give 1 star instead of all my kudosu :^)

Hopefully you're going to rank this, so good luck

1. So you just muted both sliderslide.wav and slidertick.wav, i can't see how this is rankable in any way:
   

   Ranking Criteria wrote:

   Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.

   That's especially relevant on sliders like 00:39:849 (1) - 04:43:560 (1) - when there's no sound feedback for the player.
2. 10ms delay on soft-hitclap, please fix it up.

1. 00:18:509 (5) - 00:20:983 (6) - these circles have very low impact for what beats they actually represent, really recommend you space them out (e.g. by stacking 00:18:509 (5,1) - these instead).
   For 00:20:983 (6) - you can do:
   
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2. 00:22:839 (4) - ends on nothing in the track, just replace it with a circle would probably be the best solution here.
3. A thing I dislike in this map is your usage of extended sliders which is at times uncomprehensible, maybe you can explain why you do so:
   00:48:509 (1,2) - Follows nothing properly, vocals still going on until 00:48:973 - , guitar starts new beat on 00:48:664 - already
   01:08:303 (1,2) - ^
   01:05:519 (6) - Guitar ends on the previous red tick already.
   01:47:890 (6,7,8,9,1) - This feels uncomfortable, the first extended slider follows gutiar but the second one suddenly follows vocals, making this rhythm pattern ambiguous.
   02:28:406 (5) -
   03:11:086 (3,4) - 03:13:560 (2,3) -
   03:35:828 (3,4) - 03:37:065 (2,3) -
   04:04:282 (4,5) - 04:06:756 (2,3) - 04:07:993 (2,3) - 04:10:468 (3,4) - These don't follow the guitar properly if you listen closer.
4. 00:51:292 (2,3) - Extend 2 by 1/4, this just makes the rhythm more consistent since you used extended sliders to represent the guitar chords previously already.
5. 00:56:550 (4,5,1,2) - Yeah this doesn't look too great structurewise, if it'd have more of the same visual distance then yes:
   
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6. 01:08:612 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - Really jump-heavy for a weaker section of the music, tone down the spacing.
7. 01:25:622 - Just saying, but spacing consistently with ~1.9x still makes it look really dispersed. Try out toning it down by e.g. 1.6x in calmer sections since notes in these parts really don't need that much stress.
   For example at 01:26:241 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - :
   
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8. 01:34:205 - Missed a beat. If set, add a clap to it as well.
9. 02:01:499 - to 02:08:921 - : Spacing's messed up a bit. You should've started stacking circles on sliderheads at the beginning already since there's strong guitar notes on the circles and stacking them on slidertails makes these fairly weak. Or short: Stack 02:02:272 (3,4) - 02:03:200 (6,1) - 02:04:127 (3,4) - here.
   The other way around, stack 02:05:210 (1,2) - 02:06:138 (4,5) - 02:07:066 (1,2) -
10. 02:04:591 (5) - , swap with a slider+circle, you don't want that tail on a strong beat.Like:
    
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11. 02:07:993 (4) - Switch with the following rhythm for accentuation on the drum snares:
    
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12. 02:15:725 (4,5) - Switch with two sliders, this just feels bad because you end the backslider on a strong beat 02:16:035 -
13. 03:46:035 (5,6,7,8) - this is so troll man lol
14. 04:23:689 - Clearly missed a beat
15. 04:43:560 (1) - Chapeau. The transition to it from the previous jump is kind of awkward though, you might wanna change this:
    
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    Hitsounds:
16. Missed a lot of claps, set them here:
    01:18:664 (4) - 01:20:055 (1,2,3,4) - 01:51:138 (6,7) - 01:51:524 (9) - 01:59:024 (1) - 02:33:663 (4) - 02:37:529 (2,3,7) - 02:40:777 (5) - 02:43:251 (5) - 02:44:488 (6,9) - 02:45:725 (5,6) - 02:49:437 (3,4,5,6) - 02:58:096 (7) - 02:59:179 (6,7,8,9) -
    01:59:334 (2,3) - Delete clap on 2 set on 3
    01:51:292 (8) - 01:26:859 (1) - 01:29:334 (1) - 02:33:045 (1) - 02:39:230 (6) - 02:50:519 (4) - on sliderend
17. Finishes:
    01:33:045 (1) -
18. Whistles:
    02:03:354 (1) - 02:05:210 (1) - 02:07:066 (1) - 02:08:148 (5,6,7,8,9,10) -
    02:08:921 - Not listing all the whistles up here, but listen closer to the song. There are drum snares that should be covered up with whistles for better hitsound feedback for the player, and you left out a lot here.
19. 02:00:880 (1,3) - Drumclaps instead of whistles here.
20. Drumclap:
    02:31:035 (9) -
21. 02:34:591 (5,6,7,8) - Try setting drumclaps on 5-6 and drumfinishes on 7-8 instead.
22. 02:35:828 (8,9) - 02:37:065 (5,6) - try drumfinishes on heads.
23. etc. You really missed a lot in the map, try to listen closer to the song.
    You can call me up if you really need help with it, though i'M sure you can figure out yourself now where sounds are msising.

A thing I dislike in this map is your usage of extended sliders which is at times uncomprehensible, maybe you can explain why you do so:
00:48:509 (1,2) - Follows nothing properly, vocals still going on until 00:48:973 - , guitar starts new beat on 00:48:664 - already
My reasoning behind this is that here I view the drums and vocals to be much more prominent and offer a more diverse rhythm when compared to the guitar. I want to stress the vocals by using the extended slider however the drum beat separates the vocals so I used another 1/2 slider to map the drum and also act as a means to continue the vocals. I don't agree that this follows nothing properly as imo it follows the vocals and drums fine. Ignoring the guitar was intentional but now that you've mentioned it I'm not sure if i should prioritize the vocals in such a way. Making the extended slider a 1/2 might follow the music better but imo it accentuates nothing, making it just a series of 1/2 beats which is a boring. But that's just how I see it, you're probably right so I'll think about it changing them.

Pho wrote:

Request via PM, allright let's see...

Bold: Fix quickly/unrankable issues
Purple: Questionable
Red: Highly recommend

[General]

1. So you just muted both sliderslide.wav and slidertick.wav, i can't see how this is rankable in any way:
   

   Ranking Criteria wrote:

   Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.

   That's especially relevant on sliders like 00:39:849 (1) - 04:43:560 (1) - when there's no sound feedback for the player.
2. 10ms delay on soft-hitclap, please fix it up.
   All fixed

[Promise]

1. 00:18:509 (5) - 00:20:983 (6) - these circles have very low impact for what beats they actually represent, really recommend you space them out (e.g. by stacking 00:18:509 (5,1) - these instead).
   For 00:20:983 (6) - you can do:
   
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   fixed
2. 00:22:839 (4) - ends on nothing in the track, just replace it with a circle would probably be the best solution here.
   fixed
   
3. A thing I dislike in this map is your usage of extended sliders which is at times uncomprehensible, maybe you can explain why you do so:
   00:48:509 (1,2) - Follows nothing properly, vocals still going on until 00:48:973 - , guitar starts new beat on 00:48:664 - already
   01:08:303 (1,2) - ^
   01:05:519 (6) - Guitar ends on the previous red tick already.
   01:47:890 (6,7,8,9,1) - This feels uncomfortable, the first extended slider follows gutiar but the second one suddenly follows vocals, making this rhythm pattern ambiguous.
   02:28:406 (5) -
   03:11:086 (3,4) - 03:13:560 (2,3) -
   03:35:828 (3,4) - 03:37:065 (2,3) -
   04:04:282 (4,5) - 04:06:756 (2,3) - 04:07:993 (2,3) - 04:10:468 (3,4) - These don't follow the guitar properly if you listen closer.
   Yeah I'm stupid ignore my explanation earlier, fixed the issue as a whole I hope
4. 00:51:292 (2,3) - Extend 2 by 1/4, this just makes the rhythm more consistent since you used extended sliders to represent the guitar chords previously already.
   fixed
5. 00:56:550 (4,5,1,2) - Yeah this doesn't look too great structurewise, if it'd have more of the same visual distance then yes:
   
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   remapped
6. 01:08:612 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - Really jump-heavy for a weaker section of the music, tone down the spacing.
   remapped
7. 01:25:622 - Just saying, but spacing consistently with ~1.9x still makes it look really dispersed. Try out toning it down by e.g. 1.6x in calmer sections since notes in these parts really don't need that much stress.
   For example at 01:26:241 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - :
   
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   remapped
8. 01:34:205 - Missed a beat. If set, add a clap to it as well.
   fixed
9. 02:01:499 - to 02:08:921 - : Spacing's messed up a bit. You should've started stacking circles on sliderheads at the beginning already since there's strong guitar notes on the circles and stacking them on slidertails makes these fairly weak. Or short: Stack 02:02:272 (3,4) - 02:03:200 (6,1) - 02:04:127 (3,4) - here.
   The other way around, stack 02:05:210 (1,2) - 02:06:138 (4,5) - 02:07:066 (1,2) -
   remapped
10. 02:04:591 (5) - , swap with a slider+circle, you don't want that tail on a strong beat.Like:
    
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    remapped but applied what you said
11. 02:07:993 (4) - Switch with the following rhythm for accentuation on the drum snares:
    
    SPOILER

    
    fixed
12. 02:15:725 (4,5) - Switch with two sliders, this just feels bad because you end the backslider on a strong beat 02:16:035 -
    fixed
13. 03:46:035 (5,6,7,8) - this is so troll man lol
    lol remappeeddd
14. 04:23:689 - Clearly missed a beat
    whoops fixed
15. 04:43:560 (1) - Chapeau. The transition to it from the previous jump is kind of awkward though, you might wanna change this:
    
    SPOILER

    
    uhh changed things a bit
    
    
    Hitsounds:
16. Missed a lot of claps, set them here:
    01:18:664 (4) - 01:20:055 (1,2,3,4) - 01:51:138 (6,7) - 01:51:524 (9) - 01:59:024 (1) - 02:33:663 (4) - 02:37:529 (2,3,7) - 02:40:777 (5) - 02:43:251 (5) - 02:44:488 (6,9) - 02:45:725 (5,6) - 02:49:437 (3,4,5,6) - 02:58:096 (7) - 02:59:179 (6,7,8,9) -
    01:59:334 (2,3) - Delete clap on 2 set on 3
    01:51:292 (8) - 01:26:859 (1) - 01:29:334 (1) - 02:33:045 (1) - 02:39:230 (6) - 02:50:519 (4) - on sliderend
17. Finishes:
    01:33:045 (1) -
18. Whistles:
    02:03:354 (1) - 02:05:210 (1) - 02:07:066 (1) - 02:08:148 (5,6,7,8,9,10) -
    02:08:921 - Not listing all the whistles up here, but listen closer to the song. There are drum snares that should be covered up with whistles for better hitsound feedback for the player, and you left out a lot here.
19. 02:00:880 (1,3) - Drumclaps instead of whistles here.
20. Drumclap:
    02:31:035 (9) -
21. 02:34:591 (5,6,7,8) - Try setting drumclaps on 5-6 and drumfinishes on 7-8 instead.
22. 02:35:828 (8,9) - 02:37:065 (5,6) - try drumfinishes on heads.
23. etc. You really missed a lot in the map, try to listen closer to the song.
    You can call me up if you really need help with it, though i'M sure you can figure out yourself now where sounds are msising.
    ahh yeah orz I'm so bad at hitsounding, fixed all

Jumpy. Not really a kind of map i could enjoy myself much because it's really overcrowded with it :c
Work more on the patterns of your map since some looked really unappealing. Also hitsounds.
Great song choice though, good luck with this set /o/

buny wrote:

NC usage very questionable..

i.e.
00:06:138 (6) - vocal starts here but the combo is still continuing, and then NC mid vocal?
00:08:612 (6,1) -
00:11:396 (1) - this one kind of fits, because of the higher pitched vocal
00:13:870 (1) - this one fits
00:16:189 (7) - now we're back to awkward NC
00:18:509 (5) -
00:23:457 (5) -
00:25:932 (5) -
00:31:035 (5) -
00:33:354 (4) -
00:35:829 (4) -

i'm not sure if this is your mapping style or not, but personally I dislike NC usage like this. Especially because it is not consistent with the rest of the map

I NC at the beginning of every new stanza, easier to keep consistently this way imo
I will get more opinions on this

00:48:973 (3,4) - sudden 1/4 jump that is the same distance as the 1/2s previously
yeah fixed

00:56:859 (5) - start the NC here because of the vocal pitch
00:58:097 (11) - ^
01:24:849 (2) - NC?
same reasoning as before

02:02:117 (3) - ctrl + g? every other slider past this is playing the same direction to its counterpart slider, this 1 shouldn't be an exception
hmm okay

04:43:560 (1) - if you're under half hp no mod, you'll fail
yeah been trying to fix this for a while but cant seem to find a good solution, only alternative is to replace it with another spinner which is a bit boring

Reditum wrote:

im so fucking bored today there's literally 0 things to do i took a nap lmfao

Diff:
00:01:189 - overall you're lacking a LOT of hitsounds which sucks because it just makes the map sound like a constant drone. I know there's no drums here, but some nicely placed softwhistles might enhance this.
yeah im shit at hitsounding, added some things
01:02:968 (4,5) - It works with the pattern you have afterwards but it's still REALLY covered by the slider, which looks bad. pls fix
sort of like it how it is here, looks fine to me
01:11:705 (5,1) - hm. (5) doesn't neccessarily flow well into (1) and the slider itself isn't very aesthetically pleasing so
agreed fixed
02:01:499 - It'd be nice to have some softwhistles accenting the ride cymbal accents.
added some things
02:14:179 (4) - pls don't have sliderends tucked like this.
okay
02:14:488 (1) - I was actually having a discussion with someone about this yesterday and like this looks icky but I guess it's not unrankable so???
the weird hump thing is meant to emphasize the breathing, still there but like made the slider look better
03:16:962 (1) - slap ye
03:17:426 (4) - clap on beginning of slider ye

It's actually a really solid map and if I was in the BN I'd bubble this upon application of this mod but uhhhhh I guess that's never happening because everything is done at the pace of ass in the staff atm so.
knowing my luck you're gonna be a BN again before I get a bubble orz

1. 01:20:055 (1,2,3,4,1) - You can have more jumpy flow here with star jumping, because I feel like they're capable to make it
2. 01:43:560 (3,4) - Feels weird for having a stack here . Would be nice if they separated like 01:46:035 (4,5) -
3. 03:42:169 (3) - Overlap looks bad and somewhat strange for me . Maybe move this circle a bit upwards until it stacked with 03:41:705 (1) - head and re-position all objects in this sequence at the moment to give it same impact with the previous current placements (Just feel it looks strange . Otherwise, it's fine)
4. 04:03:354 (2) - I feel nice to play this slider here 04:03:199 - , because the vocal is pronounced really clear for being emphasized here, and leaving it not clickable rather weird in gameplay in my opinion . In a nutshell, just switch the current rhythm here 04:02:736 (1,2) -
5. 04:43:560 (1) - Nice omg

Ipas wrote:

Wow nice

[Promise]

1. 01:20:055 (1,2,3,4,1) - You can have more jumpy flow here with star jumping, because I feel like they're capable to make it
   true I could turn those into jumps but for now I kinda like how it is
2. 01:43:560 (3,4) - Feels weird for having a stack here . Would be nice if they separated like 01:46:035 (4,5) -
   okay fixed
3. 03:42:169 (3) - Overlap looks bad and somewhat strange for me . Maybe move this circle a bit upwards until it stacked with 03:41:705 (1) - head and re-position all objects in this sequence at the moment to give it same impact with the previous current placements (Just feel it looks strange . Otherwise, it's fine)
   yeah overlap is a bit weird but I think im going to keep it as is, would have to change too much. Don't think there are any readability problems so should be fine
4. 04:03:354 (2) - I feel nice to play this slider here 04:03:199 - , because the vocal is pronounced really clear for being emphasized here, and leaving it not clickable rather weird in gameplay in my opinion . In a nutshell, just switch the current rhythm here 04:02:736 (1,2) -
   very true, fixed
5. 04:43:560 (1) - Nice omg
   ty :3

[]
Mapset really nice ><
Good Luck!

1. 00:39:849 - hot about placing a note here, i feel it's better for players to hit the sound.
2. 00:58:097 (11,1) - the spacing is too big compared with other 3/4 slider like 00:51:292 (2,3) - in this map, also, i think 00:58:097 (11) - the 3/4 slider isnt necessary here, i suggest to change it to 1/2 slider
3. 02:57:787 (5,6,7,8) - i have a better flow suggestion here o.o, hope you like it(hope it's clear enough)
   SPOILER

   
4. 04:24:076 (2,3) - the spacing is too small and doent fit the background music here imo, consider to make it larger.
5. 05:04:131 - why not 5% volume here?
6. 01:40:932 - the normal-whistle on the slider tail sounds very random and unfit
7. 04:06:138 - seems you forgot a clap
8. 04:16:653 - ^
9. 04:43:560 (1) - how about adding finish on the head o.o

Karen wrote:

As request
Promise:

1. 00:39:849 - hot about placing a note here, i feel it's better for players to hit the sound.
   hmm okay
2. 00:58:097 (11,1) - the spacing is too big compared with other 3/4 slider like 00:51:292 (2,3) - in this map, also, i think 00:58:097 (11) - the 3/4 slider isnt necessary here, i suggest to change it to 1/2 slider
   true, changed to just a 1/2
3. 02:57:787 (5,6,7,8) - i have a better flow suggestion here o.o, hope you like it(hope it's clear enough)
   SPOILER

   
   yeah thats better actually, I hope I got it right
4. 04:24:076 (2,3) - the spacing is too small and doent fit the background music here imo, consider to make it larger.
   ok
5. 05:04:131 - why not 5% volume here?
   ok
6. 01:40:932 - the normal-whistle on the slider tail sounds very random and unfit
   not sure why thats there lol
7. 04:06:138 - seems you forgot a clap
   yee
8. 04:16:653 - ^
   yee
9. 04:43:560 (1) - how about adding finish on the head o.o
   yeah good idea

nice, not much to say, almost perfect, let me know when you're ready.

1. 01:11:859 (1) - This slider doesn't flow nice. Consider Ctrl H (improve the blanket then) Then move the last noe to 296:368 to improve the flow with the next slider
2. 01:33:045 (1,2) - It feels a bit out place, as this is the only stack in this whole part (Okay, you have 01:37:993 (1,2,5,6) - as well, but there it fits, IMO it feels weird in the 1:33 part), please space it
3. 02:39:849 - Consider adding a kiai here for the guitar, as this is mapped pretty hard, and this part of the song is epic \:D/ (until 02:59:643 probably)
4. 03:17:890 (6) - NC? It feels better for readability, as it's a SV change

Baraatje123 wrote:

[General]
All clear!

[Promise]

1. 01:11:859 (1) - This slider doesn't flow nice. Consider Ctrl H (improve the blanket then) Then move the last noe to 296:368 to improve the flow with the next slider
   okay did something slightly different here instead, changed the slider shape also
2. 01:33:045 (1,2) - It feels a bit out place, as this is the only stack in this whole part (Okay, you have 01:37:993 (1,2,5,6) - as well, but there it fits, IMO it feels weird in the 1:33 part), please space it
   hmm okay
3. 02:39:849 - Consider adding a kiai here for the guitar, as this is mapped pretty hard, and this part of the song is epic \:D/ (until 02:59:643 probably)
   was considering that actually
4. 03:17:890 (6) - NC? It feels better for readability, as it's a SV change
   sure

Call me :3

Bubble#2'ed

Kibbleru wrote:

oh this map is actually really nice owo

diff
00:39:849 (1) - nitpicking here but is the circle really necessary? the emphasis on a spinner should be the end of it so imo just by dragging 00:38:612 (1) - to 00:39:849 - should do the trick..
as Karen mentioned I think it's a lot better if there's something clickable on that note, so I'm gonna keep it. Shortened the first spinner by 1/4 so its not as immediate.
03:46:189 (6,7) - i just think this is way overdone. i dont see the need for 2 kicksliders here since there is no special need for emphasis on 03:46:189 - nor 03:46:344 - . not to mention the 1/4 sound is more of a background thing.
03:48:818 (4,5) - ^
hmm okay I removed the kick sliders
03:40:622 (2,4) - nothing serious, just thought it might look better if u curved it a more
done

Fort wrote:

probably top quality map :3

Kibbleru wrote:

unforunately due to the new rule thing i gotta rebubble after every change =w=
.

Karen wrote:

Kibbleru wrote:

unforunately due to the new rule thing i gotta rebubble after every change =w=
.

maybe you forgot to check your pms, its no need to rebubble due to small changes.

Approved

Asfand wrote:

not to be a douche or anything but isn't the drain time supposed to be over 5 minutes according to the ranking criteria. Length of the song:


Length: 4:53 (4:52 drain)

and from the ranking criteria:

Asfand wrote:

not to be a douche or anything but isn't the drain time supposed to be over 5 minutes according to the ranking criteria. Length of the song:


Length: 4:53 (4:52 drain)

and from the ranking criteria: