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game rock wrote:
Hi, from Online
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[ Charlotte's Oni]
01:13:639 - Change to k to follow the drums. fixed
Nice Beatmap, I hope my mod has been helpful you :3, Good luck~ ~
ここまでupdateJUDYDANNY wrote:
No Kudosu.
Quick check some diffs. requested frm pm.
modするのはまだまだ後になりそうなのですが パッと見で見たかったdiffだけ大雑把に見てきました[Kantan]深く見すぎても時間がかかっちゃうので今回はKantanだけで>< 順番が回ってくれば見ます[Oni"s"]
- 00:15:514 - ここの音が強いのでaddk , 加えて 1度目の00:00:983 (1) - k-k-k-dkdからの流れに沿って00:15:045 - もdに変えてみるのはどうでしょう - 変更しました
前のmapsetのKantanでも言ったような気がしますが, 音が盛り上がってるのでもうちょっとカッを多用していい気がする.. - もっと考えていこうと思います;;
e.g.- 00:17:858 - , 00:25:358 - , 00:28:170 -
- 01:32:858 - , 01:40:358 - same and 01:41:295 - remove? - 01:40:358は消しましたがそれ以外はあまりにもスカスカになりすぎるかなと思います、今はkeep.
00:30:983 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - o-o-o---o---o-o-oを o-o-o---o-o-o---oか o---o-o-o---o-o-oのどちらかのリズムに統一した方が流れが自然だと思います, リズム変化が全体から見ても少ないので - o---o-o-o---o-o-oでかえてみました- 00:59:108 - k? 次のDに向けて(その間バックが盛りあがり続けてるので)いいかなと思いました - おかy~
- 01:06:608 - , 01:21:608 - add note. ボーカルの流れから1/1のリズムを外すと ボーカルが一度途切れるように聞こえますが、実際はそうでないので入れてあげた方が流れに合うと思います - 01:06:608 add k,01:21:608 add k
- 01:16:451 - と01:23:951 - は消した方がいいかもしれません,, 他に抑揚となる部分があまりないので 削るならここで統一した方がいいかも - ok
- 01:52:076 - 主観ですがさしてバックの音も多くないので ここの3連は全色統一...つまりkに変えた方が綺麗に締めに合うと思います - ok~
- ここだけ2diff共通ですが00:01:920 - , 00:03:795 - and etc... こういうドラムも(アウトロでは変化付している)ピアノも何も鳴っていない部分で加えてイントロである ボーカルにもバックのベースのhit(厳密にそうであるかは個人の感覚にもよるとおもいますが)だけ聞けばとても蛇足感があります 削除した方が後々の音の量の多さの変化にもつながりますのでメリハリがつきます - 00:08:483までのところでいらないと感じたものを消しました
- 00:02:623 - 削除したらここも消していい気がする - ok
Good Luck.
Modありがとう!参考になりました!とても助かりますMidSoul wrote:
TRU̲CK 01 TAIKO MOD
// From PM, 遅くなりました)_ _)m
[Kantan]
01:41:295 (18) - <<2/1 move left<<
・このノーツの前の空白時間が中途半端になるため、違和感がありました。 - もしかしたら配置ミスかも;;変更しました
01:41:764 - ここにはじける高音があるのを捉えるための配置かもしれませんが、場所にしては大きくずれているのでこれまでと同様の位置のリズム配置とした方がいいと思います。 -
[Futsuu]
00:43:639 (19) - k
・00:43:170 (18) - この位置に比べて、音の高さが高くなっているものがとても多いためです。 -
また、00:42:936 (17) - この位置のkとこの43.639を合わせておいた方がボーカルや裏打ちシンセの音の高さが一定なことの表現につながり、よくなると思います。 - 良くなったと思います、変更しました
01:16:920 - add k ? -
・01:00:983 (3,4,5,6) - この構成が2回来てたのでdkkdkの構成も2回としたらどうかな?程度の提案です。休憩が少なくなってしまうので導入しない方が良いかもしれません。 - 最後の01:23:483を盛り上げるためここをdkkdkにしているのと、ここに追加するとやっぱり休憩部分が無くなってしまうのでnopeで;;
[Muzukashii]
00:20:436 (3,4,5) - ddd > d_d
・この位置の3連は浮いている感じがあるなと思いました。あまりバックで音量が上がるものもないですし、対比的な構造が現れる箇所と思われるものも遠いところにあります。なので1/2構造でよいかと思いました。 - OK!
-1 00:23:483 (7) - __D > ddd (1/4)
・1/4を入れるのであれはこちらの方がわかりやすいかな?と思います。それほどではないですがよりはっきりした音もあるので。 - 1/4は無理して入れるほどでもない気がしたのでnopeで
01:15:514 (8) - k
・前のkに対し、この位置にある音の大半が上昇しているためです。この位置は人によってはそこそこ大きめの違和感があると思いました。 - OK!=!
01:24:303 (27) - >>1/4 move right>>
・1/4の3連+単発+2連はそこそこ難しいと思うので、すぐ後方にある、よく聞こえるKickに合わせようという提案です。
この構造自体はBPMが遅く一般的に叩ける、難しい譜面として問題ない難易度内ではあると思います。しかし、これまでの流れでサビに来てから徐々に徐々に難易度が上がってきている印象の一番最後にここまで難しくなってしまうのはどうかな と思ったためです。 - 最後の1番盛り上げたいところなので難しめにしているのと、今の配置が気に入ってるのもあってkeepで、私的あれば変更検討。
01:25:709 (33) - >>1/4 move right>>
-1 01:26:295 - >>1/2 move right>>
・1.25.709については上記同様、また、この構成でリズム難的感覚を少しでも和らげるために続いて提案しました。ボーカルの強調点からはずれますがビート構成上わかりやすい位置にノーツが移動するので、プレイ時の手助けになるかと思います。 - 上と同じ理由で
01:41:529 - add d ?
・前の構成(01:39:654 (32) - d)を受けて、こちらにノーツがないことで不安定に感じる要素があったためです。 - OK~
01:42:467 (40,41) - del ?
・この位置の3連も浮いている感じがあります。もし3連構成をとるならば、01:34:733 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - この形と同系のパターンを使用した方がいいと思います。 - 01:34:733と同様のパターンに変更しました
[Oni]
01:32:389 (15,16) - dk > k_
・この16の位置に目立つ音がないので2打目の音が浮いちゃってます。ここは素直に1打配置にしましょう。繋ぐなら次の01:32:623 - にノーツを置いた方が良いです。
同様の提案箇所として以下のものがあります。 - OK!
-1 01:39:889 (53,54) - dk > k
ヨカッタ提案箇所があった・・ - bbbbbb
01:37:193 (39) - del ?
・ここを3連+5連で繋ぐほど何か特別な盛り上がりがあるような構成には感じ取れませんでしたので、気持ち抑える感じにする提案です。- ですね~変更しました
01:40:709 (56,57) - こちらを3連 または1/2構成に - 1/2構成にしました
01:42:467 (65,66) - こちらを2連に - dkにしました
・音楽が4小節ごとに回帰し、特別な変化がないため、パターンに変化を付けすぎると不安定感が出てしまいます。前の4小節内の形に似せることで不安定感を解消できると思います。
01:46:920 (89,90,91,92) - kddk > dkkd
・音の上下関係的にこっちの方がよさそう! - totemoいいです……変更しました
これはかなり個人的な提案になるので後付けですが
00:46:451 (3) - この小節線からサビ前までの区間で、このOniに関しては2連を使わないほうがよりまとまりがある構成に見られるかもしれません。2連を置けないような音楽のつくりはしてないのですが、ここまででとても落ち着いた構成をしているので3連にしてくれたら主に私が喜びます。
(ex.)00:47:037 (5) - >>1/4 move right>> - そうですね、サビで偶数は結構配置しているのでここを3連にして落ち着いた構成にするために3連に変更しました
各難易度でよく差別化できており良いと思います。ただ、シャロさんのOniは人によって好みが分かれるところがありそうだなと思いました。もとより2連配置は苦手なところがあるのでそういった箇所などは下手な指摘にならないように大雑把に見るようにしています。
相変わらず低難度作るのうまいですね・・見習いたい次第です。星よー
JUDYDANNY wrote:
No Kudosu.
Quick check some diffs. requested frm pm.
modするのはまだまだ後になりそうなのですが パッと見で見たかったdiffだけ大雑把に見てきました
[Oni"s"]深く見すぎても時間がかかっちゃうので今回はKantanだけで>< 順番が回ってくれば見ます
- ここだけ2diff共通ですが00:01:920 - , 00:03:795 - and etc... こういうドラムも(アウトロでは変化付している)ピアノも何も鳴っていない部分で加えてイントロである ボーカルにもバックのベースのhit(厳密にそうであるかは個人の感覚にもよるとおもいますが)だけ聞けばとても蛇足感があります 削除した方が後々の音の量の多さの変化にもつながりますのでメリハリがつきます確かに...fixed
- 00:02:623 - 削除したらここも消していい気がする
Good Luck.
Thank you modMidSoul wrote:
TRU̲CK 01 TAIKO MOD
// From PM, 遅くなりました)_ _)m
[Charlotte's Oni]
・01:26:881 (129) - del?
突然長接続のノーツ群が出るので、少し切ってやってボーカルの協調に使ってもいいかもしれません。 切って様子見てみようと思います。
各難易度でよく差別化できており良いと思います。ただ、シャロさんのOniは人によって好みが分かれるところがありそうだなと思いました。もとより2連配置は苦手なところがあるのでそういった箇所などは下手な指摘にならないように大雑把に見るようにしています。相変わらず低難度作るのうまいですね・・見習いたい次第です。星よー
一貫性の事考えたら、リズムとかなるべく統一して、色だけ変えるってのもありなんですが、色んなパターン置けそうなので変化を結構入れてみました。
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無理いってごめんなさい!modありがとうございます!MidSoul wrote:
quick, via frm another time line. No kds plz.
難易度の差が~みたいな理由があったのでそれを補完する方向で考えるModです。
こういうのはマップ全体の方針にかかわる奴なのであまり具体性帯びた提案もできないし細かく見ることができる箇所もないので以下略!
あと、配色、配置そのものについてもっと考えろっていうのもありましたがそれは今回はあまり指摘しない方向で行きます。
どうして音をもっと考えないといけないのかという考え、或いは具体例が1つも表明されないこのTNAルールもひどいもんだなと思います。
私にはRanked基準なんてわかりません。しかしまあ、具体的に言わないんじゃなく言えないというのなら、実際クオリティで上回ってしまえばぐうの音も出ないハズです。
TNAも始まったばかりなのでその辺の方針しっかりしてないのはまだ仕方ない部分もあるかもしれませんが。
個人的には理由はないけど気に喰わないってんならなら自分らで別Diff作れよって話です。
なので、もし配色について変だなぁと思うところがあれば適宜自分で直してみる程度が良いかと思います。
その後信頼おける人にMod依頼か軽いテストプレイでもいいので依頼してみて、聞いてみるといいかな。
再度同じような理由で断られたら最悪BNに聞いてみてもいいと思いますよ。感覚の話で言われても相手には伝わりませんからね。
Muzukashii
緑線3本目~、4本目~、5本目~の区間においてノーツ数を拡充する提案をします。
これはOniとの難易度が大きすぎると言われたその補完の役目を果たすかもしれません。
その他の区間においてはよく曲調に合わせた密度調整がされているんじゃないかと思うので流します。
正直個人的にはそんなに大きな難易度差はないと思うんですが・・感覚の問題だと思うので、
それなら(ほとんど曲調の変化もない曲ではありますが)曲調の変化に合わせて密度増にしてやることで感覚的なものを解消することができるかもしれません。
- 00:41:412 - add d
- 00:41:529 - add d
緑線3本目~について、00:38:483 - この位置からそれまで消えていた裏打ちリズムのシンセがうるさくなるため、合わせて密度増にしてもいいかもしれません。以上はそれに関連する提案です。 - ok,そのままだとkddになってしまうので00:41:295をdに変更- 00:48:912 - add k - 1/4にするとOniと同じようになってしまうので、00:49:029のみ追加
- 00:49:029 - add k -
- 00:53:248 - add ddd (1/4)
- 01:00:279 - add d
緑線4本目~について、この区間はよくリズムの変化が表れていてよいと思います。それに追従する形でノーツを増やす提案です。
00:53:248 - add ddd (1/4)については、パターン自体を追加するものにあたるため導入するか否かはマッパー自身の意思としてよく考えてくれると助かります。 - dddにするとOniよりも難しくなってしまうので00:53:483にdを追加しました。- 01:04:615 - add d
- 01:04:733 - add d
- 01:12:115 - add k
- 01:12:233 - add k
緑線5本目~について、あまりパターンをいじらずに配置を増やす方向を考えてみました。
これで足りないという感じなら- 01:01:686 - add d
- 01:01:803 - add d
- 01:03:092 - add k
- 01:03:209 - add k
- 01:09:186 - add d
- 01:09:303 - add d
- 01:10:592 - add k
- 01:10:709 - add k
これくらい増やしてもいいかもしれません。 こうするとサビで徐々にノーツが増える感じはなくなってしまいますが、サビ全体の曲調が盛り上がる様子が上手く表れるかなと思います。- ↑4つの箇所のように1/4を少し追加しました。さすがに増やし過ぎると逆にノーツが多くなり過ぎそうなので、少し配置も変えました
あくまで感覚の話になってくるので前述どおり私には細かいことは分かりません。取り入れるかどうかは個人の意思でどうぞ。
Futsuu
こちらも難易度を上げろと言われてますね。ということで追加しても違和感浅そうなところに敷き詰める提案をします。
- 00:22:779 - add d - ok
- 00:23:014 - add d - ^
- 00:30:279 - add d -
- 00:30:514 - add d (or k) - こっちだけ追加で「
or- 00:21:842 - add k
- 00:23:014 - add d
- 同様に以下略
緑線2本目~について、前述のとおり、裏打ちパターンのシンセがうるさく響いているので、この区間自体の元の完成度は非常に高かったと思いますが、それにノーツを追加しておく提案です。- 01:01:920 - add k - ok
- 以下略
サビについて、dk dkの構成は非情に音のなっている位置に対してふさわしく、」対Kantanでみると密度増もありよい構成のように見えますが、Futsuu譜面としてみた場合は突然空白時間が増加するために難易度が落ちている感覚とされる可能性があります。そこで各所のこの位置を最終形と同じにしてしまうと密度感での問題は解消されると思います。あまりに同じパターンが続くので、途中適宜足すノーツはdとしてもいいかもしれません。 - dk dkのところを一応全部5連としてみました
以上になります。軽くやるつもりが長くなってしまった。正直くどすほしい。けど使うとこもないからいいや。GJアイリアチャ仂さん。
thank you for mod! ☆ありがとうございますtasuke912 wrote:
M4M for TNAリベンジ
俺から見たら既に全然spreadOKだけど、Muzu~Oniに対してKantan, Futsuuが簡単すぎるかな?という印象も。各10個ノートくらい増やしても良いと思います もちろん増やさなくてもOK
[ General]
- Videoの解像度に改善が必要です。特にTaikoだとvideoの可視範囲が狭いため見えない上側で容量をムダに消費してます。削除、もしくは960x720サイズで上から380を真っ黒にして出力を推奨。ソフトはaviutlとかがオススメです。(aviutl 264で検索) - う~んTaikoにはあんまり動画意味ないし
俺が見たいけど削除しました、動画をAVIに変換してくれたPnkmjpさんスマン~aviutlあるんだけど使い方ワカンネ~
[ Kantan][ Futsuu]
- 00:15:983 (12,13,14,15) - 密度が思いっきり低いので(13)か何かをkに変えて、難易度の偏りを防ぐと良いかなと。00:22:076 (17) - をkに変えるのでも良し。(ただ後者だとその次の部分とのパターンに支障来すかも) - ここをdでおきたいのと、密度低いので00:18:795と00:26:295にkを追加しました
- 01:21:608 (25,26,27) -、ここは01:28:170 (6,7,8) -とのパターン化を考えるとkkdが妥当な気がします。もしくは後ろ側の配置をdkdに変更。 - 01:28:170 (6,7,8)をdkdに変更しました
- 01:00:983 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -、01:08:483 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - 全く同じなので少し変化が欲しい、たとえば1/1連打をリバース配置にしてみるとか - 配置を少し検討し変えました
- 00:41:061 (19) - 1tick前に移動?俺的には4つ打ちを拾いたい(俺的に)(俺的に) - 変更しました、そのあとの配置も少しいじりました
- 00:52:545 -, add d? ^- ok
- Kiaiパート。01:00:983 (6,7,8,9,10,11) -, 01:04:733 (13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 難易度の差が開きすぎてるので調整推奨です。前の方に数個1/2置くと良 - 01:00:983のところは1/2入れるとMuzukashiiと同じ配置になりそうだったので、ノーツをStarがいい具合になるよう全体的に少し足しました。
この曲サビだけで無限に配置思いつくやんな~- 01:15:983 (14,15,16,1,2) - ^ - ^
[ Muzukashii][ Oni]
- 00:19:733 (1,2,3,4) - 前の2小節との一貫性を持たせるためにx-x-xxxをベースとしたリズムにした方がベター?それかここに合わせる00:27:233 (17,18,19,20,21) - 00:27:233に合わせました 今見ると謎配置…
頑張って(=゚ω゚)ノ
- 00:09:420 (20,21,22,23,24,25) - 前後に比べここがかなり詰まりすぎてるので数個ノート消していいと思います。- 1/4を消しました
- 00:15:514 (38,39,40) - ここの音は1/4じゃなくて1/6なので比較的自由に作れるOniでは素直に拾うか1打目で大音符で止めるとかして良いと思います。- 大音符で止めました
- Good.
Thank you modtasuke912 wrote:
M4M for TNAリベンジ
俺から見たら既に全然spreadOKだけど、Muzu~Oniに対してKantan, Futsuuが簡単すぎるかな?という印象も。各10個ノートくらい増やしても良いと思います もちろん増やさなくてもOK
[ Charlotte's Oni]頑張って(=゚ω゚)ノ
- 01:51:959 (248) - pianoフォローで1tick前にkとかどうですか, 249をdでkkddkにすると綺麗な気がする いいですね、fixed
- good.
- rankまで遠くなさそうなので一応bookmark外しといてください 一応外しました。
5pb.Records
modありがとう~!Mame ga nyaa wrote:
おはこんばんにちは from in-game chatGeneral・add tag5pb.RecordsMuzukashii・01:18:326 - delete - okOni・00:13:170 - delete - ok
・00:33:561 - change d - ok,and 00:33:795 change k
・00:47:975(10,11) - Ctrl + G - nope
・01:52:779 ~ 01:53:483 - ここにスピナーを置いてみたらどうでしょうか? - 必要ないように感じるので、nopeで
Good luck
modありがとうございますMame ga nyaa wrote:
おはこんばんにちは from in-game chatGeneral・add tag5pb.RecordsCharlotte's Oni・00:37:662 - change k 00:37:897 - ここと同様donが合う気がします。
・00:48:795 - change d dkkよりkkkのがいい気がします。
・01:52:779 ~ 01:53:483 - ここにスピナーを置いてみたらどうでしょうか?無しでいいと思いましたので、no changeで。
Good luck
Thank you modxtrem3x wrote:
Request via Simple Taiko Modding Queue
_____________________________________________________
General:
ALL Suggestions are based in notorious sounds (other reason is with comments)
don = d
kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K
_____________________________________________________
Charlo's Oni:
00:15:514 - kkkd -> kddd (have hits for red notes) sorry nope.I think kkkd is fit.
01:30:514 - Change for d's (not high sound, is hit too) nope.I think kkkk is good~
_____________________________________________________
thank you for mod!xtrem3x wrote:
Request via Simple Taiko Modding Queue
_____________________________________________________
General:
ALL Suggestions are based in notorious sounds (other reason is with comments)
don = d
kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K
_____________________________________________________
Kantan:
GOOD
_____________________________________________________
Futsuu:
01:28:170 - Delete - ok
01:41:529 - Add note - nope,same as 00:26:529.
_____________________________________________________
Muzukashii:
00:26:529 - Change to d - ok
00:49:733 - Add note (why this part is empty) - ok,add k,I forgot lol
01:25:826 - Change to d - move to 01:25:709.
01:40:592 - Add note - add d.
_____________________________________________________
Oni:
00:28:873 (8,9) - ctrl+g - ok
01:01:334 - Add note (very notable sound in vocal) - nope,Since it becomes too difficult
01:02:740 - Same - ^
01:04:850 - Move to 01:05:084- ok
01:08:834 - Add note (same as 01:01:334- ) - nope,same as 01:01:334
01:10:240 - Same - ^
01:12:350 - Move to 01:12:584- ok
01:15:631 - Add note (is good a complete stream in this place) - hmm...sorry,nope.A little hard
01:16:334 - Add note (same as 01:01:334- ) - add d.
01:17:975 - Move to 01:17:740- and change to d - keep,This arrangement is preference
01:20:553 - Delete - nope,01:20:436~01:22:545 is better
01:24:420 - Have 2 options ... 1) leave this sequence as previous similar sequences or 2) Delete this note for repeat the next "display" - Change the color scheme a little
01:34:147 - Add note - nope
_____________________________________________________
thx for mod~Surono wrote:
lol hi M4M, and Special List from TNA Queu
>General
- nope, is fine
>Oni>Muzukashii
- 00:16:451 (40,41) - not reverse this? in other too if u accept.. *i see u follow vocal, if yes.. u can keep and change kat just in 40* - change ddk
- 00:18:326 - kat for emphasize - ok
- 00:20:201 - ^ a - ^
- 00:20:201 (4,5,6,7,8) - kkddk 1/2 more fits imo.. - okokok~
- 00:23:951 - b - okkk
- lol just it.. for u reference chaca san.. selfmod, gluck - ;w;..
>Kantan & Futsuu
- 00:16:451 - like in oni... 00:18:326 - this too.. selfmod >_> sry me nub
typingnot wanting make long mod h3hhh -just it? eh? lol cya GLuck~
like in oni if u want lel jk(About hitsounding) looks fine on Futsuu, rest on kantan is nice ngeh.. one suggest on kantan, 00:59:108 - slider until 01:00:045 - here? lol vocal is fits with this and make newbie learn do stream XD - add slider:3
modありがとうございます!ガバガバで申し訳ないSKSalt wrote:
Hi, mod request from Twitter or TNA(できればTNAからということにしておきたいw)
[Kantan][Futsuu]
- 00:38:483 (5) - delete finisher? 強調音が特に見受けられないので消したほうが良いかと... - ok
- 00:59:108 (1) - change to k? のほうがボーカル音に沿ってていいかなーとは思いました - 前のmodでスライダーを置きました
- 01:18:795 (9) - change to d? 01:03:795 (4) - との一貫性を考慮。 - ok,そもそもここのサビkが多いかなとも思った
[Muzukashii]
- 00:14:108 (6) - change to d? 00:13:639 (5,6) - のボーカル音の音程が一緒に感じたので。00:15:045 (8) - をdにしているのはボーカル音だろうし、おそらくこれは変えたほうが良いです。 - okです。たぶん後ろの音取ってたと思うけどボーカルに合わせました
- 01:09:889 (27,28,1) - んー、もし01:02:389 (9,10,11) - と異なるパターンを置きたいならdkdがいいかなと思いました。ここ変えるなら01:08:951 (25) - もdに変えたほうがいいかも。 - kkdにして(25)をdに変更しました。
- 01:24:889 (19,20,21) - 上と同じ。もし変更するなら01:23:951 (17) - もdに。- 上と同じ感じにしました
- 01:14:108 (10) - Kantanでは大音符使われていなかったし削除?強調音が特に見受けられないです。 - ok
[Oni]
- 00:22:779 - d追加?3連の後に休符を入れると行き詰った感が否めないです。- ok
- 00:30:279 - ここからは前の繰り返しと同じようにしましょう。上を変更しないなら00:30:514 - にk, 変更するなら00:30:279 - からd k. - ^
- 00:32:858 (1,2,3,4) - これ全部kだとう~んって感じでした。音取りした方がいいのでは? - wwww 変えました
- 00:37:311 - d追加?一番上と同じく。 - ok
- 00:52:545 - ^ - ^
- 00:58:873 - ここにdかk追加して00:59:342 (12) - をdelete. これも上と同じくリズムに行き詰まっている感
- 01:07:779 - ここから d k. Kiai地帯で無理に2/1の休憩は作らなくてもOK - naruhodokisiribo,ok
- 01:30:279 - ここからはd dddみたいなリズムにしたほうが良いと思った. - ok
- 01:37:779 - 一番最初と同じ - ok
- 01:44:108 (93,94,95,96,97,98,99) - 同じ所を比べるとなぜかここだけリズムの取り方違う - 前と同じようにしました
ん~やっぱりMuzuと同じく3連符のあとの空白が気になったなぁ。あと1つ目のKiai地帯の01:15:983 (14) - からの繰り返し部分が1回目と比べて随分難しくなっている気がした。- もっと見直しが必要そうですね;;とりあえず3連符の後の空白は休憩みたいな感じでつけてましたが鬼なのでそんなにもいらないかな?と思ったので埋めておきました
まぁこんなもんかな?Oniについては大雑把なmodしてしまいましたが...役に立てれば嬉しいです!頑張ってください!
Surono wrote:
lol hi M4M, and Special List from TNA Queu
>GeneralCharlotte's Oni
- nope, is fine
just it? eh? lol cya GLuck~
- not change to Inner Oni? le why not? lel *if u change inner, u can make to harshh* lol /me run ~JK fixed
- 00:14:342 - delete this? just flow and look awkward for me ._. * 00:14:108 (32,33,34) - and is nice if just follow this* nope.becuase,follow the flow.
- 00:17:506 - have pitch.. why not adding note? okay,added.
- 00:25:006 - ^ same above ^
- 00:30:514 - is fit if change to kat.. more emphasize nope.don is fit.
- 00:45:279 - i hear this have pitch... added.
- 00:45:748 - have 1/6 pitch.. i guess *if u slow playback* hmmmmmmm,I added notes.but,I'll removed?
- 00:49:029 (73,74) - ctr g this? 73 is fit for flow vocal, and 74 is kat.. 00:48:326 (69) - same like this fixed
- 01:15:397 - delete this, and 01:15:631 - add this kat.. why? bcus 01:15:631 - this pitch feel empty if not get adding some note.. 01:15:397 - and this why to delete? for emphasize 01:15:514 - this pattern.. *if u accept this..* hmm...nope.kkd→kkddk is good flow..
- 01:29:108 - not make kdddk? and 01:29:693 - delete this? more fits with music >_> yes.kdddk is good.but,kkkkddd is not bad^^!
- 01:30:748 - change don, 00:15:748 - consistent with this nope.I think kkkk is fit.
- 01:32:506 - like before.. 01:40:006 - this too and other bla fixed
Thank you modSKSalt wrote:
Hi, mod request from Twitter or TNA(できればTNAからということにしておきたいw)
[Charlotte's Oni]まぁこんなもんかな?Oniについては大雑把なmodしてしまいましたが...役に立てれば嬉しいです!頑張ってください!
- 00:15:670 (39) - change to d? もし1/6を00:15:983 (41) - まで続けるなら別にいいけど4連で区切るならddkkにしてバランスを取ったほうがいいかも。。 ddkkよりkkkdのがfitすると思いますのでno changeで。
- 00:35:318 (7) - change to k? ボーカル音を考慮。ここはkkdよりkddのが合うのでno chnageで。
- 01:10:123 (35) - change to d? ^ ddkdk dk→kkkdk お尻をkdkで合わせているのも悪くない気がするので、今のところno changeで。
- 01:21:959 (101) - same as above. kkdの反転させたdkkのが合うと思いますのでno changeで。
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14:39 toara_fict: Mod dayo
14:39 *toara_fict is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/686796 Ayane - Perfect Quest (Short ver.) [Oni]]
14:39 toara_fict: okay ?
14:40 chaica: ok
14:41 *toara_fict is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/685714 Ayane - Perfect Quest (Short ver.) [Muzukashii]]
14:41 toara_fict: Muzu 00:16:451 (25) - Change k
14:41 chaica: おk
14:42 toara_fict: ye
14:43 toara_fict: Oni 00:16:451 (38,39,40,41,42) - k d k k d Muzu 00:16:451 (25,26,27,28) - d d d k
14:43 toara_fict: Oniを
14:43 toara_fict: kkddkで拾えばどうにかなるとおもy
14:44 toara_fict: 00:23:951 (20,21,22,23,24) -
14:44 toara_fict: Oni kkddk だからさっきのとこも
14:44 toara_fict: kkddkでokayなはず むずにもあう
14:46 chaica: うんう
14:46 toara_fict: 00:39:420 (19,20,21) - Vocalならkdk どらむならkkdで
14:46 toara_fict: そろえてあげましょう
14:46 toara_fict: OniとMuzu
14:48 toara_fict: 00:40:358 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - ここから
14:49 toara_fict: MuzuのほうがOniより難しいから
14:49 toara_fict: 変えてあげて
14:51 toara_fict: Muzu 00:57:701 (5,6) - swap
14:51 toara_fict: いれかえてあげて Futsuu Oniに合わせて
14:53 toara_fict: 01:00:279 (12) - Change k ?
14:53 toara_fict: Oniにあわせて
14:53 toara_fict: それでも
14:55 toara_fict: 01:23:483 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ここすき
14:55 chaica: ありがと茄子
14:56 toara_fict: http://puu.sh/kxPYC/5311e9b19a.jpg
14:57 toara_fict: 01:30:514 (146,147,148,149) -
14:58 toara_fict: 01:49:967 (62) - move 01:50:904 (65) - change k
14:58 toara_fict: Oni
14:59 toara_fict: 01:51:608 (67,68,69,70) -
14:59 toara_fict: follow piano sounds
15:00 toara_fict: こんなかんじかなあ
15:00 toara_fict: と
15:00 chaica: アリ~
thx~ updatetoara_fict wrote:
Modding In IRC & Voice chat.14:39 toara_fict: Mod dayo
14:39 *toara_fict is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/686796 Ayane - Perfect Quest (Short ver.) [Oni]]
14:39 toara_fict: okay ?
14:40 chaica: ok
14:41 *toara_fict is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/685714 Ayane - Perfect Quest (Short ver.) [Muzukashii]]
14:41 toara_fict: Muzu 00:16:451 (25) - Change k
14:41 chaica: おk
14:42 toara_fict: ye
14:43 toara_fict: Oni 00:16:451 (38,39,40,41,42) - k d k k d Muzu 00:16:451 (25,26,27,28) - d d d k
14:43 toara_fict: Oniを
14:43 toara_fict: kkddkで拾えばどうにかなるとおもy
14:44 toara_fict: 00:23:951 (20,21,22,23,24) -
14:44 toara_fict: Oni kkddk だからさっきのとこも
14:44 toara_fict: kkddkでokayなはず むずにもあう
14:46 chaica: うんう
14:46 toara_fict: 00:39:420 (19,20,21) - Vocalならkdk どらむならkkdで
14:46 toara_fict: そろえてあげましょう
14:46 toara_fict: OniとMuzu
14:48 toara_fict: 00:40:358 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - ここから
14:49 toara_fict: MuzuのほうがOniより難しいから
14:49 toara_fict: 変えてあげて
14:51 toara_fict: Muzu 00:57:701 (5,6) - swap
14:51 toara_fict: いれかえてあげて Futsuu Oniに合わせて
14:53 toara_fict: 01:00:279 (12) - Change k ?
14:53 toara_fict: Oniにあわせて
14:53 toara_fict: それでも
14:55 toara_fict: 01:23:483 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ここすき
14:55 chaica: ありがと茄子
14:56 toara_fict: http://puu.sh/kxPYC/5311e9b19a.jpg
14:57 toara_fict: 01:30:514 (146,147,148,149) -
14:58 toara_fict: 01:49:967 (62) - move 01:50:904 (65) - change k
14:58 toara_fict: Oni
14:59 toara_fict: 01:51:608 (67,68,69,70) -
14:59 toara_fict: follow piano sounds
15:00 toara_fict: こんなかんじかなあ
15:00 toara_fict: と
15:00 chaica: アリ~
03:31 Saikoro: modします。
03:31 *Saikoro is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/686796 Ayane - Perfect Quest (Short ver.) [Oni]]
03:32 Saikoro: 01:08:483 と 01:09:889 のパターンの変化がddk→dkk
03:32 Saikoro: 01:15:983 と 01:17:389 はdkddk→dkkdk
03:32 Saikoro: 01:23:483 と 01:24:889 はkkd→kdk
03:33 Saikoro: この変化の仕方はランダムでなく少しでも統一性を保つべきだと思う
03:39 Saikoro: たとえばdkk→kdd, kkdkd→kkdkd,dkk,kddとかがおすすめです
03:45 chaica: ok
03:46 Saikoro: 01:26:061のところで急に音取りが変わってる!揃えましょう
03:46 Saikoro: いままでkdのところがkkになってる
03:50 chaica: ok
03:50 Saikoro: 01:51:608 から三連を消してkkddkとかkdddkでいいと思った
03:57 Saikoro: 01:20:670 簡単普通だけノーツ置いてある
03:57 Saikoro: Futsuuは削除
03:57 Saikoro: Kantanは2,3のリズムに変更
03:57 chaica: ok
04:05 Saikoro: 01:31:451
04:05 Saikoro: OniとMuzuで色違うから揃えてもいいかな
04:06 Saikoro: Muzuをkに変更?
04:07 Saikoro: 01:35:201 ここも
04:07 Saikoro: 01:43:170
04:07 Saikoro: ^
04:23 chaica: ok
04:23 Saikoro: こんなもんで終わりです
04:24 chaica: thx
04:24 chaica: thank you~
04:25 chaica: barusu
ありがとう~!updateSaikoro wrote:
おはようございます。IRC03:31 Saikoro: modします。
03:31 *Saikoro is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/686796 Ayane - Perfect Quest (Short ver.) [Oni]]
03:32 Saikoro: 01:08:483 と 01:09:889 のパターンの変化がddk→dkk
03:32 Saikoro: 01:15:983 と 01:17:389 はdkddk→dkkdk
03:32 Saikoro: 01:23:483 と 01:24:889 はkkd→kdk
03:33 Saikoro: この変化の仕方はランダムでなく少しでも統一性を保つべきだと思う
03:39 Saikoro: たとえばdkk→kdd, kkdkd→kkdkd,dkk,kddとかがおすすめです
03:45 chaica: ok
03:46 Saikoro: 01:26:061のところで急に音取りが変わってる!揃えましょう
03:46 Saikoro: いままでkdのところがkkになってる
03:50 chaica: ok
03:50 Saikoro: 01:51:608 から三連を消してkkddkとかkdddkでいいと思った
03:57 Saikoro: 01:20:670 簡単普通だけノーツ置いてある
03:57 Saikoro: Futsuuは削除
03:57 Saikoro: Kantanは2,3のリズムに変更
03:57 chaica: ok
04:05 Saikoro: 01:31:451
04:05 Saikoro: OniとMuzuで色違うから揃えてもいいかな
04:06 Saikoro: Muzuをkに変更?
04:07 Saikoro: 01:35:201 ここも
04:07 Saikoro: 01:43:170
04:07 Saikoro: ^
04:23 chaica: ok
04:23 Saikoro: こんなもんで終わりです
04:24 chaica: thx
04:24 chaica: thank you~
04:25 chaica: barusu
GOOD LOOK
Thank you modqoot8123 wrote:
Hi o/
from TNA queue
[ Inner Oni]that's would be all, good luck
- General
- 00:30:983 - set this volume lower than 00:15:983 - fixed
- 00:46:451 - set this volume similar with 00:15:983 - ^
- Hitsounds
- 00:12:467 (27) - remove and change 00:12:584 (28) - to d,would make the rhythm more clear nice suggestion~
- 00:13:170 (30) - move to 00:13:404 - can emphasize the 3/4 pattern fixed
- 00:32:623 (118) - how about change to d? to make consistent with 00:31:451 (112,113,114) - ^
- 00:43:873 (49,50) - reverse them? to make similar structure with former pattern ^
- 01:26:529 (126,127) - reverse them , bit be more fit the song more fit >m<!
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thank you for modding! updated~qoot8123 wrote:
Hi o/
from TNA queue
[ Kantan][ Futsuu]
- Spread
- 00:39:420 (6,7) - due to I have some suggestions on muzu and it may make this section easier,so these notes should be removed - ok
- 01:13:639 - add k here ,this part is become denser on oni - okay
- Hitsounds
- 00:20:670 (16,17,18,19) - just a suggestion, but i think you can try this pattern to emphasize the vocal nicely - umm,,,no change,For now the pattern is like,But the hitsound it has changed little
- 00:28:170 (24,25,26,27) - ^ - keep.
- 01:18:795 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - try to use similar pattern on the early kiai - okay,changed
[ Muzukashii]
- General
- try to set HP to 7
- Spread
- 00:32:389 (22) - due to this part is a bit calm, so remove it can make the spread much better,and it also can make the better flow with 00:36:608 (6,7,8,9,10) -
- 00:40:592 (14,15) - same as i said on kantan, remove them
- 00:47:389 (28) - remove and move 00:47:858 (29) - to 00:47:623 - to make the pattern more fluent,and the other reason is due to muzu's pattern is too dense ,so it should be less density on muzu and futsuu - ok
- 00:51:139 (36,37) - ^ - ^
- 00:54:889 (44,45) - ^ - ^
- 00:48:561 (31) - remove and change 00:48:795 (32) - to d - ok
- 00:52:076 (38,39,40) - same reason as above ^ - ^
- 00:55:826 (46,47,48) - ^ - ^
- Hitsounds
- 00:43:170 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - how about use this pattern? the vocal's pronunciation is almost the same between 00:44:108 - and 00:45:045 -
- 01:00:983 - ~01:08:483 - it is additional suggestion, consider you following vocal on oni, you may try this kind of pattern (01:00:983 - ~01:08:483 -)would be nice imo - okay
- 01:08:483 - ~01:15:983 - ^
- 01:15:983 - ~ 01:30:983 - same as above
- 01:28:170 (3) - remove and move 01:29:108 (6) - to 01:28:873 - ok
[ Oni]
- Spread
- 00:51:490 (52,53) - remove them , this pattern is close to oni - ok
- 00:55:240 (63,64) - ^ - ^
- Hitsounds
- 00:30:983 - ~ 00:38:483 - how about use this pattern? more fit the drum and vocal - ok
- 00:38:483 - ~00:42:233 - ^ - ^(Change a little hitsound)
- 01:01:920 (18) - move to 01:01:920 (18) - as you mapped on oni
- 01:03:326 (23) - ^
- 01:09:420 (6) - ^
- 01:10:826 (5) - ^
- 01:16:920 (27) - ^
- 01:18:326 (32) - ^
- 01:24:420 (55) - ^
- 01:25:826 (60) - ^
- 01:04:498 (27) - change to k and move 01:04:733 (28) - to 01:04:967 - it would be more fit the vocal
- 01:05:670 (30) - move to 01:05:436 - ,the reason is same as above
- 01:06:608 (33) - ^
- 01:12:233 (10) - ^
- 01:18:795 (34) - ^
- 01:13:170 (13) - remove it, the reason is same as above
- 01:19:733 (37,38) - remove them and 01:20:201 (40,41) - reverse these notes
- 01:26:295 (62,63) - remove it,the reason is same as above
- 01:27:233 (67) - ^
- 01:28:990 (75,76) - ^ - keep
that's would be all, good luck
- Hitsounds
- 00:31:217 (28) - remove and move 00:31:686 (29) - to 00:31:451 - .you followed vocal here, but i feel i may lose some structure on this part. - ok
- 00:32:858 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - then this pattern could follow vocal imo, try k_ddk_d__d_k -
- 00:34:733 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46) - change to d__k_k_d__k would be better imo
- 00:42:466 (69,70) - remove them, i feel these notes are additional and could be deleted
- 00:47:858 (9,10) - ^
- 00:55:240 (11,12) - ^
- 00:57:936 (22,23,24,25) - try use ddk_d would be better imo - keep,I think this is the best pattern
- 01:04:733 (7) - change to d and move to 01:04:967 - because vocal is stop on 01:04:733 -
- 01:06:608 (14) - move to 01:06:373 - ,the reason is same as above
Thank you modNardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested in TNA queue.
- [General]
- Title: I can only find the full version of this song (http://vgmdb.net/album/43133 ; http://vgmdb.net/album/42985). Do you have any source supporting the word "(Short ver.)" ? If not, you should delete and put it in tags instead.
- Tags: It seems that "genjutsu no crossroad" is unrelated to the song. Consider deleting it ?
- [Charlotte's Inner Oni]
You may call me back after that~
- 00:23:014 (73) - consider changing this note to k to follow the snare there ? hmm...okay fixed.
- 00:30:514 (107) - same as ^ ^
- 01:00:279 (4) - ^ fixed.
- 01:29:108 (138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145) - consider changing this pattern to kkddkdk d ? This would fit the music in a way better. nice suggestion=w=/
Thank you for modding! updated.Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested in TNA queue.
- [General]
- Title: I can only find the full version of this song (http://vgmdb.net/album/43133 ; http://vgmdb.net/album/42985). Do you have any source supporting the word "(Short ver.)" ? If not, you should delete and put it in tags instead. - ok.add tags short ver,HYPER DIMENSION NEPTUNE SHARE COMPLETE DISCS,Luminous Flux.deleted gensou no crossroad.
- Tags: It seems that "genjutsu no crossroad" is unrelated to the song. Consider deleting it ? - ok
- [Kantan]
- 00:40:358 (6) - maybe k to cohere with 00:32:857 (29) - ? - ok
- 00:58:170 (26) - change to k, delete 00:59:108 (1) and add d at 00:59:108 - to give a 4/1 break ? Currently the pattern chain is too long from 00:40:358 to 01:30:983 - ^
- 01:15:045 (5,6) - similar to ^ , it would be better to delete these notes as well for one more break. - okay
- 01:20:178 (12) - unsnapped object - ww fixed.
- [Futsuu]
- 00:26:764 (11,12) - swapping these notes to k d would sound better because of the strong clapping sound at 00:26:764 - ok
- 00:40:358 (13) - same as Kantan - umm...I this is like,keep.
- 01:41:764 (28,29) - same as 00:26:764 (11,12) - ok
- [Muzukashii]
- 00:16:920 (25) - change to d and swap 00:19:029 (31,32) - to d k ? This would fit the music in a way better imo. - ok
- 00:20:201 (2,3,4,1,2) - similar to ^ , you may try k k d k d respectively for a smoother flow. - ok
- 00:28:639 (23) - maybe k to follow the snare there ? - ^
- 00:43:873 (30,31) - similar to 00:19:029 (31,32) - , d k would accompany the vocal nicely. - ^
- 00:51:373 (48) - consider changing this note to k to cohere with 00:47:623 (39) - ? - ok
- 00:59:576 (10) - maybe k as you did in Oni ? - ok
- 01:18:795 (33) - move to 01:19:264 - and 01:19:733 (36) - move to 01:19:967 - to maintain consistency with other similar parts in kiai. - ^
- 01:20:201 (37,38) - swapping these notes to k d would match both the vocal and snare there. - ok
- 01:30:514 (74) - this note could be deleted for a 2/1 break. Currently the pattern chain is very long from 00:53:951 to 01:45:983 - - ^
- 01:42:233 (13) - d and 01:43:639 (17) - change to k ? This would probably sound better. - ^
- [Oni]
You may call me back after that~
- 00:13:170 - add k so that it would be consistent with 00:09:420 (20) - okay
- 00:42:701 (66) - maybe k as you did in Muzukashii ? - ^
- From 00:57:233 to 00:58:404 - you may modify the pattern like this to improve the flow: (cursor at 00:57:936 - ) - ok
- 01:20:201 (37,38) - same as Muzukashii - ok
- 01:36:139 (33) - consider changing this note to k to make it consistent with 01:32:389 (16) - ? - ^
- 01:44:811 (16) - d would be better since snare sound is absent. - ok.
thank you for modding!~!_Gezo_ wrote:
げぞでSER
the delayed claps are disturbing me
[Futsuu]
01:42:233 - missing note. - ww add d
thank you mod_Gezo_ wrote:
げぞでSER
the delayed claps are disturbing me
[Charlotte's Inner Oni]
00:42:701 (42,43,44,45) - This double-double seems out of place, since almost every syllable mapped is 1/2. This one isn't, however. I changed kdd k.
01:00:514 (5,6,7) - 1/6 dddd instead ? changed dddk.
01:15:514 (65,66,67) - I don't know why this wasn't made as a longer stream (the end has 7plet streams); you have a 5-snare in the percussion in the background. hmm...sorry.kkd k →kkddk I think good flow.so no change.